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Dean Dwyer: Embracing The Irrational & Normalizing Rebellion · Worldview Matters With David Fiorazo

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  Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
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  defending biblical Christianity.
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  No topic off limits.
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  And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
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  Hey, friends, and welcome to episode 200 unbelievable.
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  So before we get into our guest, Pastor Dean Dwyer from Australia, I want to encourage
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  You know that biblical world view and speaking the truth can get you into trouble.
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  Speaking of trouble, let's bring in one of those troublemakers for the Kingdom of God.
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  Pastor Dean Dwyer, and he's the pastor of Eiser Street Baptist Church to Wumba, Australia.
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  Brother, so good to see you.
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  Good day from Australia, David.
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  We have a glorious land down under and as we look from the Olympics, the land of strange
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  break dancing.
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  That's funny.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  I'm so glad.
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  Yeah, I did.
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  If you've seen the clip, look, the irony is that pretty much that's how Australians dance.
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  But I think there was a lot more break and not enough dancing.
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  Oh boy, what the Olympic, what a joke.
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  Shame on the International Olympic Committee and the demonic opening the ceremonies.
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  Just bizarre stuff, but it's, you know, they're not, you know, believers and I understand
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  they're trying to please the world and whatever.
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  Before we dive into the same, the topic today, by the way, friends, embracing the irrational
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  and normalizing rebellion.
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  That's what we're talking about.
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  You can check out some of the articles we'll be referring to Pastor Dean Dwyer on Harbingers
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  Daily.com.
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  He's got a page there.
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  You can check out some of these articles scroll down a little bit to catch them on Harbingers
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  daily.
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  And congrats on being full time senior pastor at your church since July 1st.
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  I don't think we've talked to you since then.
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  No, the last time we talked was back in May, so that's all happened as a result in the
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  interim.
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  Well, great.
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  Go for that.
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  Thank you.
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  Yeah, I appreciate that very much.
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  As you know, and as many of you view and viewers know for those who don't, the impetus
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  for that really was a pretty bad motorcycle accident and that gave me the time that I needed
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  to reflect and God really spoke through that.
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  And as I say to people, the great paradox of faith sometimes, and this was reflected in
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  my life as well, that in order for me to take a step of faith, God had to break my back.
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  So even though they were difficult times, then God has brought something just wonderful
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  out of it.
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  And we can't just a great blessing and a privilege to be able to serve you in full
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  time here at Osis Creek Baptist.
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  Yeah, I told you before we got on the podcast, I told you, man, you're flocked, your churches
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  and good hands and they're blessed to have you.
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  I love you brother and appreciate your voice and your teachings and your writings.
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  And just thankful that we can connect across continents here.
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  So you know, I want to jump into this, we're trying to equip and encourage the body of
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  Christ, but also make some points and help us to understand that from the biblical perspective,
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  there is spiritual warfare going on all the time.
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  One thing I always say, the way Ephesians 6 clearly states, our struggle is not against
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  flesh and blood.
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  We know the enemy Satan uses flesh and blood.
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  He uses people.
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  He uses institutions.
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  He uses governments.
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  He uses evil men to do their, his bidding.
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  So what we're talking about today, characteristics of Satan's kingdom, you called it spiritual
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  anarchy, Dean, and that's the overall theme for today.
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  And we will get to, I think a lot of people can understand embracing the irrational because
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  that's where a lot of our societies are at today.
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  So walk us through this wherever you want to start and I think you're going to get to
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  unity.
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  But if you want to set this up first and why you decided to touch on these things now,
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  go ahead.
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  Absolutely.
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  I think as you touched on before, really, the impetus for this came from the Olympics.
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  Now, if I was an athlete in the Olympics, I'd be pretty annoyed that I put in all this
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  hard work for four years, I've trained and worked really hard, got to the pinnacle of
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  my sporting career.
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  And then that was overshadowed, really, by what I call Satan's revival meeting, which
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  is the opening and the closing ceremony, because that's really what it is.
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  It draws the nations together.
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  It draws the people together.
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  The eyeballs of the world are upon this stage.
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  And what he puts forward is this spirit of darkness.
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  And as we often say to people, you've got to be able to discern through your worldview.
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  Now, we know, and as you'll show, is in titles, worldview matters, that matters in everybody's
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  life.
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  And if you've got a worldview that's based on a spirit of darkness, will you go and embrace
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  some of those things that were portrayed at the Olympic Games?
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  And I guess this is why people can't understand the Christian worldview and why Christians
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  were so upset, because if you're looking at the opening and closing ceremonies through
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  the paradigm of darkness, then you might necessarily see anything that was wrong with
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  what happened there.
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  But when you're looking through it through the paradigm of light, when you're looking
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  through it in a biblical worldview through the lens of the Bible, then in your spirit,
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  you can easily discern that what happened on that stage and in and around those Olympics
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  was incredibly dark.
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  I mean, yeah, to the discerning eye to those who adhere to the biblical worldview, understand
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  scripture, it's clear.
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  I mean, I was so saddened for some of those athletes, as you said, worked so hard.
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  And then they put out this, you know, demonic introduction in the opening ceremony, and
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  a lot of people boycotted, rightly so.
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  A lot of people, a lot of good, you know, people, it's just really sad, but that's the way
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  it is, the way of the world, which may transition into one of your articles that we want to
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  touch on today, worshipping madness, because it is the darkness, but darkness is irrational.
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  It is madness.
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  And you talk about how the New World order demands a new God.
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  But before we dive in to that more, Dean, I want you to talk about unity some more, because
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  I find that fascinating that in the Olympics, countries want to unite, right?
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  And, you know, put out this front of a global peace and prosper, whatever else.
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  But in the United States, unity, you would think it wouldn't be a bad thing.
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  But there are people with the dawn of a biblical worldview that we should not be uniting
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  with.
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  And that means in the church too, maybe good causes, but I mean, an atheist can do good
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  works, right?
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  That's exactly right.
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  And we're talking off air about the book of Jude.
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  And for any Christian who hasn't read it, I encourage you to do so.
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  It's, I mean, very, very short book, but it gives us the context behind why Jude was
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  so forceful and contending for the faith because our faith is something very precious to us.
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  And of course, he was speaking about the concept of false teachers and apostates and those
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  that the enemy sends into the church.
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  And I think this is one of his tactics because in any type of warfare, what you want to try
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  to do is blunt the effectiveness of the opposing offensive army.
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  And I think this is what he's been very good at is that in terms of blunting the effectiveness
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  of the church, he wants to keep the church busy.
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  Now, he keeps the church busy in terms of some of the social justice causes.
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  And he keeps the church busy by having to contend all of the time with false teachers
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  and apostates that he sends in because if we're busy doing that and if our energy is being
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  drained with having to deal with all of the internal drama all of the time, well, guess
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  what?
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  The church doesn't have the energy, doesn't have the time and the focus to be able to
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  deal with some of those outward issues that are really important in the world today.
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  So this is what you were saying in terms of there's some things that just don't coalesce
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  in the Christian life.
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  We can't have light and darkness coalesce therefore we can't have faith and apostasy coalescing
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  as well.
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  So this is going to become an increasing problem in the church today where you've got
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  apostates and false teachers really making inroads in there.
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  And of course, you give us some very solid advice that is to contend for the faith.
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  This is going to have to be a very deliberate action.
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  This is going to have to be a continuing action, which is going to take intense prayer.
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  It's going to take intense work and being able, once again, it comes back to discernment,
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  being able to discern exactly what's going on and using the discernment of the whole
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  spirit in order to contend.
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  And in some instances, we have to remove these people from the midst because otherwise
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  they can be incredibly destructive to the work of the church.
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  Let's contend for the faith that was once for all handed down from the apostles to the
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  saints.
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  I just paraphrased that in Jude.
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  I'm thinking of there's world events and meetings that different religions go to.
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  Maybe there's, I don't know, there's so many different kinds.
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  But I can see pictures of a Muslim Imam with the Pope, with an apostate LGBTQ, you know,
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  gay affirming church, which you've got a church in air quotes.
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  And then they've got someone a Hindu, you know, so they've got all these different religions
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  that they're uniting.
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  But for what cause?
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  Usually oftentimes Dean and I wasn't planning on getting into this, oftentimes it's for
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  the environment.
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  Well, you're putting the environment over people, population control.
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  But these religious leaders are uniting for this cause.
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  And Christians, we've got to look at that and discern and say, that's, yeah, we need
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  to take care of the planet while we're here.
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  But we don't unite with everyone that believes anything, cults and other, you know, world
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  religions to put the planet as a top priority.
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  And then you know where that goes.
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  The result of that abortion, population control, youth and Asia and go on.
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  Just briefly comment on that before we continue.
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  Absolutely.
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  This is the paradox in Satan's kingdom is that unity requires rebellion.
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  So his determination of unity means that we have to turn against God and join his kingdom
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  of darkness.
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  And we know that unbelievers have done that by default.
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  And so what I often say to people is that in rebellion, people don't often gather
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  around monuments anymore.
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  So we're talking about false idols and the like.
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  But people gather around moments and Satan uses moments.
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  He uses things like, as you said, abortion rights.
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  He uses things like the environmental cause.
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  He uses things like kicking prayer out of parliamentary meetings and so forth.
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  This whips up rebellion so that people unite.
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  When they've got, when they get behind a cause, people unite when they're fearful.
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  And so we can see the manifestation of these things.
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  We saw that through the last four years and we can see that as you said around the concept
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  of climate change as well, because if he can get people to unite around this moment, this
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  issue that's supposedly affecting the whole planet, then he can start to cover less people
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  that wouldn't ordinarily come together so that convictions are dropped, the Leafs are
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  dropped so that we can all come together and head in the one direction.
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  So that's the paradox with Satan's kingdom is that there's a certain element of rebellion
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  which really foments that unity.
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  But Dean, we've got to unite so we can face this existential threat of climate change.
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  Anyway, I'm joking, but that's what the language they use.
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  The most important thing we've got to come against as human beings, no, don't buy the
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  hype friends.
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  But you talk about the examples you mentioned unity to protect abortion rights, unity
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  protect the LGBTQ agenda.
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  What about Israel?
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  We've seen unity on college campuses, but it's not the kind of unity that Bible-believing
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  Christians should be a part of our support, a comment and then we'll take a break.
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  Oh, absolutely.
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  Again, it comes back to how you discern your worldview.
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  We are lent to believe that there's this paradigm in the world, that there's the oppressor
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  and the victim.
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  And for those who like to position themselves as victim, then it seems that automatically
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  they get the sympathy and they get the weight of social consensus and political consensus
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  behind them.
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  So this is exactly what's been happening and we know this happens through Marxism as
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  well, that if you can introduce some of these ideas and conceptualize them and they manifest
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  in the physical world and then all of a sudden you can harness social power behind that.
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  And that's, unfortunately, exactly what's happened with the anti-Israel protests because
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  it is based on a lie, it is based on the paradigm of darkness and untruth.
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  And so people have fallen victim to it.
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  So friends, it's going to pass through Dean Dwyer and you can get more of his writings
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  and some of his teachings at harbingersdaily.com and on the left hand column, there's a bunch
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  of authors and contributors there and Dean is one of them.
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  And I want to talk about when we come back, he sent me some bullet points on these characteristics
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  of Satan's kingdom, including globalism, commission, rulers, false teachers, redefined
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  language, worship, and we'll see what we can get to with Pastor Dean Dwyer on World
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  So Dean Dwyer, it's going by way too fast today.
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  We can talk about globalism or we can talk about commission, whatever you'd like to jump
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  to next.
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  And friends, the article, there's a couple of his articles at harbingersdaily if you
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  miss any of this.
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  We can't get to all the points, but go ahead, Dean.
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  Yeah, thank you, David.
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  We always run out of time.
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  I said you're far too much material, but let's just get through them quickly because I
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  think there's some important points there.
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  We've got a commission in our Christian life.
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  We know that we've got to go into all nations, make disciples, share the gospel.
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  Well, Satan has a commission in his kingdom as well.
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  And it comes back to that our phrase, do what our wills.
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  And so, well, Satan, we see a lot of his acolytes out there spreading his message.
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  Now, it comes back to the basis of our interview today, which is embracing the irrational.
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  And I think what we can start to see in the world today, particularly through movies,
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  through music, through television shows, is that really his acolytes are busy spreading
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  his message throughout his kingdom because some of the things that we're seeing, particularly
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  in music videos and performances like the Grammys and so forth, there's some very, very
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  dark things there.
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  And unfortunately, this is corrupting young minds as well.
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  So that's his commission.
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  And unfortunately, he's got no shortage of people who are ready to fulfill that role within
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  his kingdom.
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  It's interesting that leads on to the next point when we talk about rulers, and I've
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  talked about this recently in our congregation because when we get to Psalm 2, which is the
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  enthronement Psalm, we see though their conspiracy.
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  And for anyone who says there's no conspiracy in the world, well, there's conspiracy in
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  the Bible because, as JB Hicks and often says, conspiracy is just two or more people conspiring
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  together to devise a wicked scheme.
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  So we absolutely see the people, the kings and the rulers gathering together, taking
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  counsel together, and I pointed out to some of our people recently that when we talk
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  about rulers and we go back to the original language, it talks about rulers in a judicial
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  sense through a court system, and we certainly see Satan working through that in terms of
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  liberal judges, but rulers really refers to those whose word carries weight.
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  So in a judicial sense, absolutely, but in another sense, whose word carries the most
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  weight in our world today?
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  It's a liberal justice.
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  It's music stars.
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  I get that from your article.
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  That's exactly right.
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  So this is what we're not understanding as a society as well is now.
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  See Satan, he can work through kings, but for most democratic countries, there's an
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  election every three or four years.
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  So here's a gender can only be pushed through, let's say at the best every three or four
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  years, but if he sets up rulers, celebrities, those whose word carries weight throughout
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  the world, then he can spread his message and what we're seeing is that some of these
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  kids from a very early age appeared to be very innocent when they first came on the scene,
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  but now all of a sudden they go into adulthood and something changes.
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  It goes from innocence to something very dark.
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  And for those of them that have taken on this journey with them, those who follow these
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  celebrities for a long period of time, all of a sudden, they're being led into this
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  correctability and this darkness, in some cases, this witchcraft as well.
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  So this is where we see Satan really active in the world today.
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  So it's an encouragement to parents and for anyone really of any age, just to be really
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  careful what you are allowing into your mind because he is really starting to push that
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  message through those screens at the moment.
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  Yes.
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  And I think, Dean, this would be a nice transition, another characteristic of Satan's
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  kingdom is the redefinition of words and language.
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  And let's talk about that briefly.
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  Go ahead.
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  Yeah.
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  Absolutely.
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  I mean, the prime example of that is Isaiah 520.
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  I mean, for those who have a biblical world, you how can you call good evil and evil
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  good?
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  How can you put light for darkness, darkness for light, bit of a sweet, sweet for bitter?
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  But this is exactly what happens.
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  I mean, in Satan's kingdom, we know that for Satan, what God ordains Satan opposites.
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  So in order to build a framework of his kingdom, which is built once again on spiritual rebellion,
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  to get people to embrace the irrational, what he has to do is redefine the language.
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  So all of a sudden, if evil becomes good, well, guess what?
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  That's the foundation of your kingdom.
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  That's the foundation of your worldview.
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  And for those who embrace these types of ideas, then not only are they embraced, but unfortunately
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  they're defended and they're celebrated.
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  And this is really the manifestation of what we're seeing today.
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  People have accepted the inversion or the redefinition of these concepts.
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  And they believe them, they accept them, they defend them and they celebrate them.
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  And we can see that happening very, very clearly throughout the world today because this
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  is all being very much normalized.
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  And again, it comes back to, well, this is how Satan wants his kingdom to operate.
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  If he wants to build a certain type of language for his subjects, so to speak,
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  to speak in his language, in his kingdom, well, then this is the language that he promotes
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  throughout the world.
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  Normalizing rebellion, spiritual anarchy, but let's before we run out of time,
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  we've got to talk about embracing the irrational.
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  And that is Dionysus, is that I say that right?
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  Go ahead and walk this talk.
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  Go ahead.
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  Very in ways, Dionysus is typically the accepted way of saying it.
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  But I think, and I used in the article, the example of the dress from 2015.
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  And if people remember it, there's this dress that sent the internet into meltdown
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  because some people saw the dress as black and blue.
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  Other people saw the dress as white and gold.
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  And so this was a viral phenomena at the time because there's 11,000 tweets per minute.
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  About this particular topic.
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  And see, there was a lot of studies done on this.
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  And so what it came down to is that if your brain is wired in a particular way to see
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  the dress in certain colors, well, you could see it as black and blue,
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  or you could see it as white and gold.
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  And the amazing thing was that if you saw it in a particular set of colors,
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  you couldn't see it in the other set.
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  And I think I mentioned this because when we looked at the Olympic opening ceremony,
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  we had people who looked at the opening ceremony and said,
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  well, you know what, that's great.
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  You know, this is a great celebration of our world today.
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  Those of us who have a biblical worldview looked at the Olympics and said,
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  you know what, this is dark, this is evil.
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  And I mentioned this in the article because this is exactly what's happened.
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  If your brain is wired in a particular way to see darkness as light,
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  well, you can enjoy what the Olympics had to offer.
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  But if you have a biblical worldview where you can see darkness for what it is,
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  then what we saw at the Olympics was a parody of the Last Supper.
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  But we also saw overlaid in front of that this weird blue character by the name of Dionysus.
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  And so in that article, we'd walk through exactly who Dionysus was.
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  He was the God of wine and revelry, but he was a God that people liked to worship
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  because they descended into ritual madness, not madness as we would consider it,
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  in terms of psychiatric illness, but just this absolute release of
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  innovation so that they could do what they wanted to do.
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  And we see this concept right throughout history that the dark side of human nature
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  is that they want to revel in the debauchery and the wickedness and the corruptibility.
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  And so what we saw at the Olympics to me was very plain,
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  that you've got a parody of the Last Supper, but then in front of that,
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  the New World Order has put their God in front of that.
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  And that's Dionysus. This is the one they want to worship in debauchery.
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  And if you're familiar with some of the infestibles, that Dionysus led.
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  As the night went on, they said, and as the wine flowed,
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  they said, old and young were together.
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  Now that is something we unfortunately are seeing in the world today.
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  We're seeing a gradual normalization of sexual immorality in relation to adults and children.
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  And I've read some material around some of these feasts of Dionysus and these rumours that
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  these still happen today. And it's certainly not appropriate for me to recount those
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  on this show because you can only imagine just the wickedness and the evil and the sexual
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  immorality that goes on. But this is unfortunately what they've put out to the world.
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  This is what they've celebrated at the Olympics opening ceremony.
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  So when you look at it through this framework, then you can't help but say this was absolutely evil.
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  And the message we received from Paris, as you mentioned, loud and clear.
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  Christianity is not welcome in the New World Order.
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  But I want to mention one of the rituals involved trans-inducing substances.
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  You read about that. Pharmakia.
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  You mentioned that, Dean, a couple of podcasts ago and we had you on as a guest,
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  talking about what happened in Israel, October 7th with some of the radicals from Hamas using
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  these drugs, Pharmakia. So they wouldn't have any inhibitions.
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  And they couldn't even sense the evil that they were doing. Guys, if you don't remember
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  that podcast, worldviewmatters.tv, just put in the search bar, Dean Dwyer.
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  And that was probably earlier this year or the end of last year or earlier this year when we
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  talked about that. But just, I mean, that plays in here. Pharmakia, it helps you get into this
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  trans and just do whatever you want. Do what thou wilt, right?
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  Absolutely, yes. So the drugs that Hamas operatives used was a drug called Capagon.
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  And so that is a real problem in the Middle East because that funds a lot of this terrorism
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  as well. It's a very popular drug used by Middle Eastern men. And that really, I mean, they don't
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  sleep for days. All of their conscience is destroyed and they can do things that ordinary people
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  wouldn't do. And so this plays into what we see in the Tribulation period because we know that
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  there's Pharmakia mentioned in there. And for the feasts of Dionysus, absolutely. They used
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  wine. They used these trans-inducing substances because they wanted to descend into this ritual
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  madness or ritual ecstasy. And so what we see at the Olympics was that, as I said in the article,
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  the New World Order demands a new God. And for those unfamiliar with Dionysus, he was in the myth
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  a God man because he had a mortal mother, Samil, and an immortal father in Zeus. So how ironic
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  that the New World Order is looking to a God man to lead them into sin, all of what are rejecting
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  the God man who died for their sin. Interesting. A mankind needs to worship something, right?
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  Absolutely. And that's a point you make indirectly in your articles. Pastor Dean,
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  run out of time. It's just always a blessing to have you on. By the way, friends,
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  Isaac StreetBaptistChurch.com. And also you can go to Harbinger's Daily.
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  Brother, I appreciate you and your writing and it's so good to have you on as frequently as we
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  can here. Continue to lead that flock, brother. I know you're doing a great job, but pray for Pastor
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  Dean's protection and provision for him, friends right now where you're thinking of it. And thanks
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  for your time today. Thank you and God bless you, the team, and everyone there. Thanks to
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  Harbinger's Daily for their support. Wonderful, wonderful ministry. Yes, and may the Lord
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  enlarge your territory, brother, in Jesus' name. Friends, thank you so much, God bless you,
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  and as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matter.