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- 0:00Speaker 1: Boys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Boys.
- 0:07Speaker 1: This is Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave
- 0:13Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys.
- 0:15Speaker 3: Here's Nick Eatman, what is up?
- 0:21Speaker 4: Welcome to Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette. And today is
- 0:25Speaker 4: a different day because we've got Darren Woodson in the house.
- 0:30Speaker 4: I almost said hall of Famer because I know that's
- 0:32Speaker 4: gonna happen.
- 0:34Speaker 5: Let's get it.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Wait, first of all, why is your chair always higher
- 0:37Speaker 2: than mine every time I come in here?
- 0:39Speaker 5: Well?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Is it like I feel like you're looking down at me?
- 0:42Speaker 4: Well, I'm certainly not. I'm never looking down as you.
- 0:45Speaker 4: I just called you a Hall of Famer ring of honor.
- 0:49Speaker 5: A little sensitive.
- 0:50Speaker 4: Yeah, anyone that's ever seen my office knows only have
- 0:53Speaker 4: one picture in there. It's this guy, which you've signed it,
- 0:55Speaker 4: which you might need to resign that again because it's
- 0:59Speaker 4: but I don't know, maybe it's just you know, the
- 1:01Speaker 4: ego and me of the show. You know, I got
- 1:02Speaker 4: my home show. I got my own chair, you know,
- 1:04Speaker 4: big chair. Anyways, man, Darren, so good to have you.
- 1:07Speaker 4: I know that you've you've been on a couple of
- 1:09Speaker 4: times with this first time this season uh. And a
- 1:12Speaker 4: lot of the fans are like, when When'soody coming back?
- 1:14Speaker 4: When's Woody coming back? What a perfect time to do
- 1:16Speaker 4: that because I want to talk about not only Cowboys
- 1:19Speaker 4: trying to get this thing turned around, but this last weekend.
- 1:21Speaker 4: How awesome that was. So you guys to see a
- 1:24Speaker 4: bunch of former players, so real quick though, and this
- 1:26Speaker 4: is a fan show. We'll get to some callers, but
- 1:28Speaker 4: I want to ask you what are you seeing from
- 1:30Speaker 4: this football team right now? I mean, their defense is
- 1:33Speaker 4: not defense that you you remember seeing when you played,
- 1:37Speaker 4: but they're trying.
- 1:38Speaker 2: To play much better, you know, And it's almost like
- 1:40Speaker 2: week to week but in figuring out what's happening with
- 1:42Speaker 2: eber Flus's defense, but it seemed last week they played
- 1:46Speaker 2: with a lot more intensity. They played with a lot
- 1:48Speaker 2: more understanding of what their roles were.
- 1:51Speaker 5: And you know, I couldn't I was at the game.
- 1:53Speaker 2: I couldn't really see all the coverages and what they
- 1:55Speaker 2: were exact, you know, exactly what they're running. I they're
- 1:57Speaker 2: run his own or I know they played a lot
- 1:59Speaker 2: more manned. I'm used to seeing them play, but I
- 2:02Speaker 2: just saw them play with more discipline than this game.
- 2:05Speaker 5: And maybe it had.
- 2:06Speaker 2: Something to do with you know, look, the Commanders didn't
- 2:09Speaker 2: have their top guys out there, but there's no excuse.
- 2:13Speaker 5: I mean, this team came out and played extremely well,
- 2:16Speaker 5: ran to the ball.
- 2:17Speaker 2: And one thing I've known about this Eberflus defense, even
- 2:20Speaker 2: when they're not playing well and they gave them giving
- 2:22Speaker 2: up big plays, they still play hard.
- 2:25Speaker 5: I mean they're still trying to run to the ball.
- 2:26Speaker 2: They may get out physical or whatnot, but they're still
- 2:29Speaker 2: running down the field and trying to make plays and
- 2:31Speaker 2: guys are trying to scramble around and get there.
- 2:34Speaker 5: But this past.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Weekend, uh, they had the They played by far their
- 2:38Speaker 2: best defensive game that I've seen this this year in
- 2:41Speaker 2: a discipline, not giving up the big play, keeping things
- 2:45Speaker 2: in front of them, and then had to turnover with
- 2:47Speaker 2: Bland with the interception return, which was which is awesome, man.
- 2:51Speaker 2: But you know, defensively is going to be a work
- 2:53Speaker 2: in progress every single week. Offensively, man, you know what
- 2:56Speaker 2: you got. I mean, this is this is fun. It's
- 2:59Speaker 2: fun to watch, it really is. It's fun to watch
- 3:02Speaker 2: Dak and the wide receivers in the offensive line get
- 3:05Speaker 2: after people. Man.
- 3:06Speaker 5: It's it's been a joy to watch.
- 3:08Speaker 4: I mean, having a dog at ride receiver is great,
- 3:11Speaker 4: but two dogs.
- 3:13Speaker 5: Two of them, man, and so you got two ones.
- 3:15Speaker 5: It's hard.
- 3:16Speaker 2: Look, I've been on the on the defensive side of
- 3:18Speaker 2: the ball when you have a Randy Moss or you
- 3:20Speaker 2: have a guy or a Jerry Rice. But you know,
- 3:25Speaker 2: it was a time when I remember playing San Francisco
- 3:27Speaker 2: and they had Jerry Rice and t O on the
- 3:29Speaker 2: other side and was an upcoming dog at the same time,
- 3:33Speaker 2: so you knew they had number one, and it's hard
- 3:35Speaker 2: to double. It's hard to double one guy and then
- 3:37Speaker 2: you have to play another guy one on one, or
- 3:39Speaker 2: you try to double two guys and then you leave
- 3:41Speaker 2: yourself open to the run game.
- 3:43Speaker 5: You know, it's it's it's a Viking.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Yeah, Chris Carter.
- 3:47Speaker 2: Yeah, And I would say this, look, I think this
- 3:50Speaker 2: this this due was better than that Moss Carter duo.
- 3:53Speaker 2: I mean because Chris Carter was gonna run the underneath routs.
- 3:56Speaker 2: He wasn't gonna take you deep, take the top off
- 3:59Speaker 2: the defense. That both of these guys, right, you can
- 4:02Speaker 2: take the top off the defense. Both of these guys
- 4:03Speaker 2: can run the mid range routes and when they get
- 4:05Speaker 2: the ball in their hand.
- 4:06Speaker 5: They're dangerous.
- 4:07Speaker 4: All right, Let's let's get to some callers quickly before
- 4:10Speaker 4: we get into we'll talk about the weekend and just
- 4:12Speaker 4: how awesome that was. Let's go to it. This is
- 4:14Speaker 4: a new caller for us, Charlie. He's in Lancaster, California. Charlie.
- 4:20Speaker 4: What's up?
- 4:21Speaker 5: What's up? Nick?
- 4:22Speaker 2: What's up?
- 4:23Speaker 5: Hey, Charlie?
- 4:24Speaker 4: Man, how's it going?
- 4:27Speaker 6: Pretty good?
- 4:27Speaker 7: Man?
- 4:27Speaker 6: It's the first time caller. I've been a big fan
- 4:30Speaker 6: of E since the break. I would follow you. I
- 4:31Speaker 6: think you're like the man when it comes to h
- 4:34Speaker 6: the cowboys and reporting on them, So I always follow
- 4:36Speaker 6: your stuff.
- 4:36Speaker 4: Man, A thank you, you're embarrassing me. Thanks you for
- 4:38Speaker 4: the Woodie we do have. Yeah, first time calling, Charlie,
- 4:44Speaker 4: you you got, you got lucky. Your first time. Your
- 4:46Speaker 4: first call is with Woody. You don't have to ask
- 4:48Speaker 4: me anything. You can ask Woody what what do you got?
- 4:51Speaker 6: Yeah? Okay, you know, I know you guys talked about
- 4:52Speaker 6: the defense and Woody as a as a forward player.
- 4:55Speaker 6: I know when you look at the guys, you see
- 4:57Speaker 6: how hard you're playing and you're analyzing that. I truly
- 5:00Speaker 6: believe what the help they got coming do you see
- 5:03Speaker 6: that spirit in them? You know, since you're a defensive guy,
- 5:05Speaker 6: do you see that spirit of them coming together and
- 5:07Speaker 6: really truly, you know, getting to the middle of the
- 5:09Speaker 6: back of the defense. I believe in them. I think
- 5:11Speaker 6: they're going to be able to get to that point.
- 5:13Speaker 6: And I see it. I see them coming together and
- 5:15Speaker 6: you know who got them back. So it's very exciting.
- 5:18Speaker 6: I appreciate you being a fan of you man, and
- 5:20Speaker 6: you guys have a good day.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Thank you so much. Calls back Charlie. I know we
- 5:23Speaker 4: have to be quick, but it's good to hear from you.
- 5:25Speaker 4: What do you think they got this? They got the
- 5:27Speaker 4: dog in them on defense?
- 5:28Speaker 2: Well, you look, you talk about the dog in defense
- 5:32Speaker 2: that I've played on some great defensive teams, and talent
- 5:34Speaker 2: is it shows itself right, So talent's got to pop
- 5:37Speaker 2: in aggressiveness and.
- 5:38Speaker 5: Knowing what you're doing.
- 5:39Speaker 2: I don't know if they have the personnel just yet
- 5:42Speaker 2: to be that dog that you're expecting, like a shutdown defense.
- 5:45Speaker 2: That's probably not gonna happen. Let's just be real about that.
- 5:47Speaker 2: I mean, they're not going to be a shut down defense.
- 5:49Speaker 2: But can they can they maintain and not give up
- 5:52Speaker 2: the big place. I think this defense has those capabilities,
- 5:55Speaker 2: but I think there's got to You got to give
- 5:56Speaker 2: ebra Flu some credit for he's had a lot of criticism.
- 6:00Speaker 2: He's had to deal with a team that's, you know,
- 6:02Speaker 2: a new system that's come in is deep that the
- 6:04Speaker 2: personnel is just getting to know his schemes. He's not
- 6:08Speaker 2: put he hasn't implemented everything. They just came off the
- 6:10Speaker 2: Zimmers scheme. So there are some growing pains that are
- 6:13Speaker 2: going going along with us. And you just lost your
- 6:16Speaker 2: best player on the defensive side.
- 6:19Speaker 5: Yeah that's I mean, look, let's not forget you.
- 6:22Speaker 2: You just lost your best football player on the defensive ball,
- 6:26Speaker 2: the guy who's made the most impact in the last
- 6:28Speaker 2: four or five years. And now you're adjusting to all
- 6:30Speaker 2: those things. So they're gonna have to adjust to this.
- 6:32Speaker 2: It's not gonna this is not an overnight situation.
- 6:37Speaker 4: I know, but but the first time we've had you
- 6:39Speaker 4: on here.
- 6:39Speaker 2: Look, he's a phenomenal player football player. I just watched
- 6:43Speaker 2: him Sunday night Arizona. I guess Arizona he is. He
- 6:48Speaker 2: is probably the best pass rusher. If I think he's
- 6:51Speaker 2: the best pass rusher in football hands down, just one
- 6:53Speaker 2: on one.
- 6:54Speaker 5: Uh, I still thought that the Cowboys.
- 6:58Speaker 2: You know, look, I felt like the Cowboys got down
- 7:03Speaker 2: the road in these negotiations and something happened that turned
- 7:06Speaker 2: them off. And I'm not sure what happened, and I
- 7:08Speaker 2: still don't know. I do think that he's he's in
- 7:11Speaker 2: a better place. He's happy and where he at. The
- 7:14Speaker 2: Cowboys are happy where they are, and they got picks
- 7:16Speaker 2: for it. I wish they would have got more, you know,
- 7:18Speaker 2: the trade partner was a little different. Yeah, I wish
- 7:20Speaker 2: it would have been, you know, the Carolina Panthers or
- 7:22Speaker 2: something like that. But at the same time, I think
- 7:25Speaker 2: both parties are happy now where they where they are.
- 7:28Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought it was a it was an okay.
- 7:31Speaker 4: I mean, you know, if for you as a veteran,
- 7:33Speaker 4: if you if you saw one of your teammates laying
- 7:36Speaker 4: down on the table in the middle of a preseason, yeah,
- 7:38Speaker 4: that's problem.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Yeah, there were a lot of those problems, right, So
- 7:42Speaker 2: I knew there were some incidents that probably took place
- 7:44Speaker 2: behind the scenes.
- 7:45Speaker 5: And I won't even get into those.
- 7:46Speaker 2: I won't even get into those because that's that's a
- 7:48Speaker 2: locker room deal and you got to handle that. But
- 7:51Speaker 2: if the character is not there and you don't you
- 7:54Speaker 2: don't like that character.
- 7:56Speaker 5: Then yeah, I mean then it's time to go.
- 7:58Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well let's let's take We're gonna take
- 8:01Speaker 4: a quick break here, real quick. We got a couple
- 8:02Speaker 4: of calls on the line. We're gonna take quick break.
- 8:03Speaker 4: We'll be right back here on Cowboys storyline.
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- 9:40Speaker 1: It's a Cowboys storyline presented by Gillette, the official shave
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- 9:50Speaker 4: All right back here on Cowboys Storyline. I've got Darren
- 9:53Speaker 4: Woodson in the house, So excited for that Woodie. We
- 9:57Speaker 4: talked in this last segment about what this Cowboy team
- 10:00Speaker 4: needs to do, and last week was a great win.
- 10:02Speaker 4: For them before the game. You guys, it was forty
- 10:06Speaker 4: two former players. They called it homecoming. I mean, why
- 10:08Speaker 4: not high school college? Everyone else does it cow Boys homecoming?
- 10:13Speaker 4: Forty two players? You had to play? It's five they
- 10:16Speaker 4: went five years or more. They weren't going to go
- 10:18Speaker 4: six years or more. And then Charles Haley was like, hello,
- 10:22Speaker 4: five years, you know what, Okay, five years or or more.
- 10:26Speaker 4: I think they should make a ring of honor exemption
- 10:28Speaker 4: for whatever. But how fun was that? And who did
- 10:31Speaker 4: you see that you hadn't seen them forever? And that
- 10:33Speaker 4: it was just so great to catch.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Up with, uh man, so many guys man that hadn't
- 10:37Speaker 2: seen you know, Roger has been a mentor of mine,
- 10:40Speaker 2: not only in mostly on the business side of things.
- 10:43Speaker 5: And it was good to see Roger Staubach.
- 10:45Speaker 2: And Drew and Bob Runick was I mean, Bob's been
- 10:49Speaker 2: fantastic for me in the business world as well. So
- 10:52Speaker 2: those are a lot of the guys I didn't play with,
- 10:54Speaker 2: and it was great to see them. But the you know,
- 10:57Speaker 2: the usuals, man, I haven't seen a guy think Herban McCormick.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Probably most of you probably wouldn't even know that name,
- 11:03Speaker 2: but Herban McCormick was a guy to play up. We
- 11:05Speaker 2: played with for a long time. I hadn't seen herven
- 11:07Speaker 2: he went five. Yeah, really, yeah, I hadn't seen Herban
- 11:11Speaker 2: in easily twenty some years. Yeah, that's a live He
- 11:14Speaker 2: lives in uh in Orlando, so he was good to see.
- 11:17Speaker 2: And of course the usual, you know, Kevin smith Man,
- 11:19Speaker 2: me and Pup. People don't realize. I was talking to
- 11:21Speaker 2: my wife and I was like, Kevin and I were.
- 11:23Speaker 2: We came in the same year. We room made it
- 11:26Speaker 2: nine straight years, likely on the road. Like, he's like
- 11:29Speaker 2: one of my best best friends ever.
- 11:33Speaker 4: Yeah, well you start making Pro Bowls like ninety.
- 11:36Speaker 5: Five, ninety four, ninety five somewhere in there.
- 11:39Speaker 4: Yeah he still were You still had a roommate for
- 11:42Speaker 4: nine years.
- 11:42Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, you kept a roommate, You kept the
- 11:45Speaker 2: room room. Yeah no, when when pop leup, I didn't
- 11:48Speaker 2: have a roommate. Kevin left, So but it was uh,
- 11:51Speaker 2: I mean, it was just awesome to be around those
- 11:53Speaker 2: got Tony Tober, Charles Haley. You know, all the stories
- 11:56Speaker 2: got you know, all the stories got bigger and bigger,
- 11:58Speaker 2: and the lives got bigger and bigger. I saw Ken
- 11:59Speaker 2: North on the side of who was coaching for the
- 12:02Speaker 2: Washington Commanders who walked on over man. It was just
- 12:05Speaker 2: it was just an awesome setting for for the guys
- 12:09Speaker 2: to get back. And I still think we need to
- 12:10Speaker 2: do more of that. We don't do enough of that
- 12:12Speaker 2: within this organization.
- 12:13Speaker 4: Yeah, and I know they're working on it. I know
- 12:16Speaker 4: that Emily, Yeah, she's doing a great job. And I
- 12:20Speaker 4: got Tony helping that, Tony Harrison helping with that. Tony
- 12:23Speaker 4: dor set though was there. Yeah, see Tony, Tony D.
- 12:26Speaker 4: I snuck a picture of Tony D and I was
- 12:29Speaker 4: just like, you know, you can tell him his's face.
- 12:31Speaker 4: He wasn't really happy about it. Shocker, but you know,
- 12:35Speaker 4: here's what he wants to be by hisself. Here's a
- 12:37Speaker 4: little you know or normal. I don't know, it was good.
- 12:40Speaker 4: It's just good to see. No, I mean, you can't
- 12:44Speaker 4: have that stuff without Himmett. So, you know, I don't
- 12:47Speaker 4: know where Michael was. Michael, I guess, I don't know.
- 12:49Speaker 2: I may have been out of town, but you know,
- 12:51Speaker 2: E's guy usually making I saw Dez Dez walked in
- 12:54Speaker 2: out it. Dees wasn't a part of our you know,
- 12:55Speaker 2: the teams that I played on but man, you know
- 12:58Speaker 2: Dez's energy man is still the same, still just you know,
- 13:01Speaker 2: he just brings so much.
- 13:02Speaker 5: I wish I would have played with des Brant. Yeah,
- 13:04Speaker 5: I always one guy I wish I could have played.
- 13:07Speaker 4: I always say this abouts was he made practice so
- 13:12Speaker 4: much better. He took the intent because he would talk
- 13:14Speaker 4: so much trash, right, the dvs would get so pissed.
- 13:17Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, you have a great practice in
- 13:19Speaker 4: the Yeah, and he would do that sounds familiar.
- 13:22Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got him another eighty eight.
- 13:24Speaker 4: My god, I played all right, let's go speaking of
- 13:28Speaker 4: Let's go to Mike in Birmingham, England. Mike, I know
- 13:31Speaker 4: you've been waiting. Thanks for waiting.
- 13:33Speaker 11: Oh, that's not a problem at all. It's great to
- 13:36Speaker 11: listen to you both chatting and how are you both doing?
- 13:38Speaker 5: Great?
- 13:39Speaker 11: Good, excellent. Well, we're known for our royal family over
- 13:43Speaker 11: here and it's great to be talking to two members
- 13:45Speaker 11: of Cowboys royalty today. Three let's throw Chris into that
- 13:48Speaker 11: so real honor to the to the Speaking to Woody
- 13:53Speaker 11: so on Sunday, I was really really pleased for Matt
- 13:57Speaker 11: Eberflu's One of the features of this season has been
- 14:00Speaker 11: on the telly. They keep cutting the camera to Ebasloose
- 14:04Speaker 11: when things are going badly, and they cut to him
- 14:07Speaker 11: on Sunday when things are going rather better, and his
- 14:10Speaker 11: expression is exactly the same. He's not someone who kicks
- 14:12Speaker 11: water bottles around when it's going badly. He's not someone
- 14:15Speaker 11: who's jumping around. But nick I just wandered behind the scenes.
- 14:19Speaker 11: On a personal level, how do you think he's been
- 14:21Speaker 11: coping with the challenges this year? And wood he from
- 14:25Speaker 11: a player's point of view, how hard is it when
- 14:28Speaker 11: there's such a disparity between what the offense and defense
- 14:32Speaker 11: are able to do. How hard is it to kind
- 14:34Speaker 11: of keep that squad unity and togetherness?
- 14:37Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, thank you for the call, Mike.
- 14:40Speaker 5: That's great. That's a great question. Have you had you
- 14:44Speaker 5: oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely.
- 14:45Speaker 2: When the defense has played well in the office hasn't
- 14:47Speaker 2: and vice versa, you know, you have to stay connected
- 14:50Speaker 2: within the locker room. It's obvious that there's going to
- 14:53Speaker 2: be some issues like when the defense is playing or
- 14:55Speaker 2: the office is playing the way they're playing right now
- 14:58Speaker 2: and the defense can't carry us weight, you'll see a
- 15:01Speaker 2: lot of you know, hymns and halls on the sideline,
- 15:03Speaker 2: and you know we gave them in the first down.
- 15:04Speaker 2: We can't get on the field as an offense. You know,
- 15:07Speaker 2: we're giving up these big plays. We always got to match,
- 15:09Speaker 2: you know. You you get a lot of that going on.
- 15:12Speaker 2: We're people, We're no different, you know, it's just a
- 15:14Speaker 2: microcosm of society, right, So you got to handle that.
- 15:17Speaker 2: The leaders really have to stand up in these situations.
- 15:20Speaker 2: The leaders have to in that locker room have to
- 15:22Speaker 2: diffuse that. Guys like Dak are going to have to
- 15:24Speaker 2: defuse any of those situations. And I heard after the
- 15:28Speaker 2: game what Dak said. They asked him a direct question
- 15:30Speaker 2: about the defense and how they played, and he just
- 15:32Speaker 2: he jumped right on it. Man, he said, man, we cheering.
- 15:34Speaker 2: We're cheering those guys on. You know, there are teammates
- 15:37Speaker 2: that you know, he said all the right things. And
- 15:39Speaker 2: that's the way you have to act because you're gonna
- 15:41Speaker 2: have some some situations. There's gonna be some some animosity there.
- 15:45Speaker 2: They have diffused it for now, but again this changed.
- 15:50Speaker 2: This does I mean, this happens both ways now. I
- 15:52Speaker 2: mean you can you can look here in the next
- 15:55Speaker 2: few weeks and watch offense who puts up six points
- 15:58Speaker 2: in the defense.
- 15:58Speaker 5: Who played shut down? We'll go back way back and.
- 16:01Speaker 4: Forth, especially with the weather turning, and sometimes there'll be
- 16:04Speaker 4: some games old weather that all of a sudden it's
- 16:07Speaker 4: just tougher to move the ball. So all right, let's
- 16:09Speaker 4: go to Michael and Bowling Green, Kentucky. Michael, what's up?
- 16:13Speaker 12: Oh lord, I'm talking to our NFL legend here.
- 16:20Speaker 4: Yeah, let's already should already be. What do you got, Mike?
- 16:26Speaker 12: I just got one quick question because I know people
- 16:29Speaker 12: are dying to get on.
- 16:30Speaker 13: Uh.
- 16:31Speaker 12: The Cowboys they against Washington, they played a lot of
- 16:37Speaker 12: man and blitzed a lot, a lot more than half.
- 16:40Speaker 12: Do you think that was designed for that game or
- 16:43Speaker 12: do you think that will continue this season?
- 16:46Speaker 5: Good question? I think I think it depends on the personnel. Honestly.
- 16:50Speaker 2: Look, you know you saw the I want to call
- 16:52Speaker 2: them the risk and about you saw the commanders, and
- 16:55Speaker 2: they were they were depleted at the wide receiver position.
- 16:57Speaker 2: So if you feel like you have a good matchups,
- 17:00Speaker 2: and you know you like your corners matchup against their
- 17:02Speaker 2: guys in one on one situation, that's a game time
- 17:06Speaker 2: not a game time decision, but it's like a game
- 17:07Speaker 2: plan decision to say, Okay, yeah, they don't have a
- 17:09Speaker 2: guy that can really hurt us in certain in these situations.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Now you play this week. Who they have this week?
- 17:16Speaker 2: They got Denver with Sutton. Yeah on the outside, that's
- 17:19Speaker 2: going to be a different game. Do you leave your
- 17:20Speaker 2: guys wanting one on one with with a Suddon out there,
- 17:25Speaker 2: and and I think Ebau is gonna have to he's
- 17:28Speaker 2: gonna have to his hands full again this week. As
- 17:30Speaker 2: far as what kind of game plan, I'm not gonna
- 17:32Speaker 2: They're very good this week. When they kept it simple,
- 17:34Speaker 2: we used to call it keeping it simple stupid. You
- 17:36Speaker 2: go play Manda man. Everybody in the world knows how
- 17:38Speaker 2: to play one on one man to man, and that's
- 17:40Speaker 2: keeping it simple stupid. But they did bring some pressure
- 17:43Speaker 2: behind it for the first time, and I really, I
- 17:45Speaker 2: really enjoyed to see them, you know, put those corners
- 17:48Speaker 2: out there on the edge by themselves one on one
- 17:50Speaker 2: and get some pressure on the quarterback.
- 17:51Speaker 4: You know, we talk about the fact of you don't
- 17:54Speaker 4: have micro We know that they have to generate a
- 17:56Speaker 4: little bit moressing and by doing that, it's easier to
- 18:00Speaker 4: play man. When when you're blitzing.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's a lot easier to play man when
- 18:04Speaker 2: you're blitzing, but at the same time, you.
- 18:05Speaker 5: Gotta get there. Yeah, you can't allow guys.
- 18:08Speaker 2: You can blitz all you want, but if you can't
- 18:10Speaker 2: get to the quarterback and you can't cover on the
- 18:12Speaker 2: outside and you're getting double moved because the pressure isn't
- 18:15Speaker 2: there and you're thinking that the ball needs to come out,
- 18:18Speaker 2: There's there's some times I'm serious, like when you're as
- 18:20Speaker 2: a defensive back, do you want to play man to man? Absolutely,
- 18:24Speaker 2: because simplify some certain things, but that pass us needs
- 18:27Speaker 2: to get there and if it doesn't, then that you
- 18:29Speaker 2: get exposed on the back end.
- 18:30Speaker 4: And also when the playing zone, when you play zone,
- 18:33Speaker 4: you got to have some great safety play. Yeah, and
- 18:35Speaker 4: I've said this before in my life of working in
- 18:37Speaker 4: front of the Cowboys, is they missed number twenty eight
- 18:40Speaker 4: at safety. Like I've said that several times, you know,
- 18:43Speaker 4: referring to you mostly now they do miss Mollie Cooker
- 18:47Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, miss twenty eight. I don't know why
- 18:49Speaker 4: they haven't returned it, but that's okay. But but still,
- 18:53Speaker 4: you know, they don't retire numbers. But still, but twenty
- 18:55Speaker 4: eight Milik Cooker. I think that you know, he's been
- 18:57Speaker 4: he's kind of a quarterback back there as well. Obviously
- 19:00Speaker 4: they miss him as well.
- 19:01Speaker 2: They do, and it's you know, when you're the quarterback
- 19:04Speaker 2: of that defense getting guys lined up again.
- 19:06Speaker 5: It goes back to the minimal mistakes. You know, one thing.
- 19:08Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson used to always says, Look, I can get
- 19:10Speaker 2: over the fact that physically you may get beat physically,
- 19:13Speaker 2: the guy may be faster than you, may be stronger,
- 19:15Speaker 2: and you're not gonna win those one on one battles.
- 19:17Speaker 2: But he would never do it. Was no excuse for
- 19:20Speaker 2: giving a blowing a coverage. There was zero excuse for
- 19:23Speaker 2: blowing the coverage. And that's that's the key to great defenses.
- 19:27Speaker 2: When you guys are all connected, you understand where you're
- 19:30Speaker 2: supposed to be, and that's how you play good zone coverage.
- 19:34Speaker 2: You can pass off guys, you can have your eyes
- 19:36Speaker 2: on the quarterback and hopefully the pass rush gets there.
- 19:39Speaker 2: But that's how you play good zoned coverage is when
- 19:41Speaker 2: you have a guy in two safeties who can get
- 19:44Speaker 2: guys lined up.
- 19:45Speaker 4: All right, All right, well we're going to take another
- 19:49Speaker 4: break here on the Cowboys storyline and then, Darren, it's
- 19:52Speaker 4: been so good to have you here for this, for
- 19:54Speaker 4: this portion of the show. But we'll be right back
- 19:57Speaker 4: here on Cowboys storyline.
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- 21:18Speaker 4: Darren Woodson still with us. We you know how it
- 21:21Speaker 4: goes here on Tuesdays. We got the TV show that
- 21:23Speaker 4: we tape. Now we're just here and now we can
- 21:26Speaker 4: just roll for a little while. Randy and Texas Canada.
- 21:29Speaker 4: What he is one of my favorite callers ever. He's
- 21:32Speaker 4: from the same hometown where my mom lives. Randy texta Canda,
- 21:36Speaker 4: what's up? Man?
- 21:37Speaker 13: Hey, man, you ain't gotta go through all that, Darren.
- 21:39Speaker 13: Those who line the man prayed for me and I
- 21:42Speaker 13: pulled through.
- 21:42Speaker 4: That's true, that's true, that's right.
- 21:45Speaker 15: Right.
- 21:46Speaker 13: I recorded that on my photos on my phone. I've
- 21:49Speaker 13: showed everybody that video. I was proud of it.
- 21:52Speaker 4: That's right, man.
- 21:53Speaker 13: That was pretty cool.
- 21:55Speaker 4: You you have You've had the biggest win of anybody
- 21:59Speaker 4: so far.
- 22:00Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 22:00Speaker 4: So, and I know you hate talking about it, so
- 22:02Speaker 4: let's just keep going. Man, what do you got for Woody?
- 22:05Speaker 13: Well, first of all, I know what he could hit
- 22:07Speaker 13: back in the day, so I'm I'm assuming he can
- 22:09Speaker 13: still hit reach over and smack Nick for me.
- 22:13Speaker 5: You gonna ask me to do that? Randy?
- 22:17Speaker 13: Yesterday, Miss Camil called in and to me, it just
- 22:21Speaker 13: felt like he was trying to rush his own mama
- 22:23Speaker 13: off the phone. I'm like, dude, let Robin Vegas can wait.
- 22:26Speaker 13: Let that woman talk.
- 22:28Speaker 16: She didn't even bring up me.
- 22:29Speaker 13: I was waiting on her to talk about me. She
- 22:31Speaker 13: didn't even do it. I was like, come on, Nick,
- 22:33Speaker 13: let the woman talk.
- 22:34Speaker 4: Hey, Hey, in the world, Randy. Randy, when when you
- 22:39Speaker 4: were younger and then wood he can relate. You got
- 22:42Speaker 4: your mom on the phone. I mean, you're just trying
- 22:44Speaker 4: to get off the phone. Don't matter if whatever. He's
- 22:46Speaker 4: just like all right, you know because if the longer
- 22:49Speaker 4: he talks the horse, he's gonna ask you to take
- 22:51Speaker 4: out the trash or do something.
- 22:53Speaker 13: Just you just you just praise you was gonna tell
- 22:56Speaker 13: us something you don't want too?
- 22:58Speaker 15: Yeah?
- 22:59Speaker 5: Maybe all right, Rady?
- 23:01Speaker 4: What you got, man?
- 23:03Speaker 15: Uh?
- 23:03Speaker 13: Not much. I just won't talk to day and I
- 23:05Speaker 13: was just just man. I saw him on that. I
- 23:07Speaker 13: was like, hey, I got to get in already.
- 23:10Speaker 9: Yep.
- 23:10Speaker 13: Uh No, Man, that was so exciting for me to
- 23:13Speaker 13: talk to you last time. I had to get back
- 23:14Speaker 13: in and talk to you again and let you know
- 23:16Speaker 13: everything went well. I'm back in my truck, I'm back
- 23:18Speaker 13: at work, guys.
- 23:19Speaker 16: Really heck.
- 23:20Speaker 13: Yeah, so that was awesome seeing you on TV the
- 23:23Speaker 13: other day too. Over on the sideline in New Jersey.
- 23:25Speaker 13: I like that.
- 23:26Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what, Randy, we had a great time,
- 23:28Speaker 2: and it's been a long time since all the guys
- 23:30Speaker 2: have gotten together. But to sit there and watch the
- 23:33Speaker 2: game and then you know what's crazy is you play
- 23:36Speaker 2: this game. I played this game for thirteen twelve years
- 23:39Speaker 2: here in the in the NFL, and you know, all
- 23:41Speaker 2: those years in college. But you get on the sideline
- 23:44Speaker 2: and you've been away from it for a while, and
- 23:46Speaker 2: then you see these guys walk out and you're like, damn,
- 23:48Speaker 2: they're huge, man, Like why, I mean, I played this game,
- 23:52Speaker 2: but like you really have to reset yourself in mind
- 23:54Speaker 2: to think, man, this was these guy's big.
- 23:57Speaker 5: They're hitting hard and you know they're getting after it,
- 23:59Speaker 5: and uh.
- 24:00Speaker 2: They just felt like they were that much bigger than
- 24:02Speaker 2: than I remember.
- 24:04Speaker 13: Well that that's kind of crazy that you bring that up,
- 24:06Speaker 13: because that was gonna be my question for you, and
- 24:09Speaker 13: if you if you got something off the top of
- 24:11Speaker 13: your head there to tell us a quick little story
- 24:13Speaker 13: about is there. I know you was a good hitter.
- 24:16Speaker 13: I like how you hit. But was there a player
- 24:19Speaker 13: in your day that when you saw him you were like, uh,
- 24:23Speaker 13: I'm gonna do one of these deon?
- 24:25Speaker 5: No, man, you know why, let me tell you why. Like,
- 24:28Speaker 5: of course you saw.
- 24:29Speaker 2: There were guys that I saw and I was like, man,
- 24:31Speaker 2: that's a They had a running back in that land.
- 24:33Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, big boy man. He's tall
- 24:35Speaker 2: to sixty three or so. He was just running over people. No, no,
- 24:40Speaker 2: he was like he was the backup. He was number
- 24:43Speaker 2: forty something.
- 24:44Speaker 5: I remember.
- 24:44Speaker 13: He was probably a little crazy too.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Said he was a huge.
- 24:49Speaker 2: He's a huge if I saw him hit John Lynch
- 24:51Speaker 2: in a game, and I was like, goodness, lord, not
- 24:54Speaker 2: I mean on his butt, but I was, you know,
- 24:57Speaker 2: I saw him. And there were a few other Brandon Jacob's.
- 25:00Speaker 2: I think it was coming in right when I was
- 25:01Speaker 2: going out. But there are some big big run Rodney
- 25:05Speaker 2: Hampton was a big running back. But here's the thing.
- 25:07Speaker 2: When you when you play a guy and you play
- 25:10Speaker 2: the position that I played at the safety position. You
- 25:13Speaker 2: can't have that mentality of back down, like there's no
- 25:15Speaker 2: back down in you, like there is a there's a
- 25:18Speaker 2: mindset that you have because not only are you having
- 25:23Speaker 2: to do your job, but there's fifty three other dudes
- 25:25Speaker 2: who are watching you do your job, Like I'm serious,
- 25:28Speaker 2: So watching film the next day and you're cowering and
- 25:32Speaker 2: your your teammates are watching you. Not feel that hole, No, man,
- 25:35Speaker 2: that ain't happening, dude, like I'm feeling it. I am
- 25:39Speaker 2: feeling it, and and.
- 25:41Speaker 4: It's it's it's feast or famine right Well, Randy, thank
- 25:46Speaker 4: you so much for the call. Man. You know, we
- 25:48Speaker 4: got to keep it rolling, always doing to hear from you.
- 25:51Speaker 5: You're hearing from you ready.
- 25:53Speaker 4: You know, we've done the documentary on you and where
- 25:57Speaker 4: you grew up and had some tough times early on.
- 26:01Speaker 4: You know, some of the some of the places where
- 26:03Speaker 4: you're around, where you lived, and some of the people
- 26:05Speaker 4: that you kind of ran around with or whatever, and
- 26:08Speaker 4: so being scared wasn't something that do a lot. So
- 26:12Speaker 4: when it's almost like when you got to NFL, it's like, no,
- 26:15Speaker 4: I'll show you what.
- 26:16Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I think there's always fear, like
- 26:19Speaker 2: there's there's a misnomer there.
- 26:20Speaker 5: I think there's always some type of doubt in you.
- 26:23Speaker 2: Like how the question is how do you overcome the doubt?
- 26:27Speaker 5: Like I firmly believed in.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Myself, Like I believed in my abilities until this day.
- 26:34Speaker 5: Even in the business world.
- 26:35Speaker 2: Man, I believe in myself because I do what I
- 26:37Speaker 2: do do well is I prepare well. And when you
- 26:40Speaker 2: can prepare the right way and firmly believe in your
- 26:43Speaker 2: skill set, then that's you. You become dangerous. You really
- 26:48Speaker 2: become dangerous. And the great ones that I've watched over
- 26:51Speaker 2: the years of Dion Sanders, man there was true belief
- 26:54Speaker 2: in his capabilities, Like he walked on the field knowing
- 26:56Speaker 2: he was the guy. Michael Urban walked on the field
- 26:59Speaker 2: knowing he was a guy. And I firmly felt like
- 27:02Speaker 2: when I walked on that football field, man, we could
- 27:05Speaker 2: I could be as nice as I wanted to be
- 27:06Speaker 2: in the locker room and have a fun and all that.
- 27:08Speaker 2: But when you cross that line, dude, it's it is
- 27:10Speaker 2: a totally different game. It's yeah, could you know here's
- 27:14Speaker 2: the thing. People again, they count on you. Your teammates
- 27:19Speaker 2: are counting on you to be that dog. So be
- 27:21Speaker 2: that dog.
- 27:22Speaker 4: Hey, I remember a time, you know when you weren't
- 27:24Speaker 4: so nice in the locker room either. Man, I was
- 27:27Speaker 4: always nice in the locker really when the dominoes were out.
- 27:30Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when I was different. Man, that was.
- 27:34Speaker 4: A quick story around that stuff. The team wasn't good,
- 27:37Speaker 4: the two thousand and two teams, it wasn't wasn't that
- 27:39Speaker 4: good and had a chance to be, uh, just just
- 27:43Speaker 4: competitive all the every week. And I remember Woody saying, hey,
- 27:47Speaker 4: we got to get because a lot of people were
- 27:49Speaker 4: playing dominoes and cards in there. We got to get
- 27:51Speaker 4: the dominoes out of the locker room. Well, the problem
- 27:54Speaker 4: was the guy that was playing the dominoes was Emmit Smith.
- 27:58Speaker 4: He was he was the main guy, so he was
- 28:00Speaker 4: I remember that being kind of tricky because you're trying
- 28:02Speaker 4: to do your thing being lead. But it was like,
- 28:05Speaker 4: you know, well now you got.
- 28:06Speaker 2: It, and then it understood. I mean he absolutely understood
- 28:09Speaker 2: where we were. I mean it was just a conversation
- 28:11Speaker 2: and hey, look, I think every locker room is different,
- 28:15Speaker 2: but there's a point, a time and point when you
- 28:17Speaker 2: got to feel it, like, you know, where are we
- 28:19Speaker 2: in this season, you know, things were going good. Hey,
- 28:21Speaker 2: I don't care guys playing much dominards they want, but
- 28:24Speaker 2: the reality is things weren't going good, and you know,
- 28:27Speaker 2: we were missing assignments and thinking guys weren't showing up late,
- 28:30Speaker 2: and we weren't as a discipline of the team. So
- 28:32Speaker 2: I think that's when you got to, you know, really
- 28:34Speaker 2: get your mindset back on what's important and what's important.
- 28:38Speaker 2: Wasn't you know, the card games and dominant? What was
- 28:41Speaker 2: important was the football?
- 28:43Speaker 4: All right, let's go back to the phone lines Robbie
- 28:45Speaker 4: and Koco Beach, Florida. Robbie, what's up, Nick?
- 28:48Speaker 6: What's up?
- 28:48Speaker 17: Mister Woodson?
- 28:49Speaker 3: How you doing?
- 28:49Speaker 5: Rob?
- 28:51Speaker 17: I am outstanding man. Every time I've called, I never
- 28:53Speaker 17: I never got you. I did ask Nick a couple
- 28:56Speaker 17: a year ago, maybe if I, if I, if you,
- 29:00Speaker 17: what should I call you? And he said, call him
- 29:01Speaker 17: Darren or call him Woody. That's how he'd introduced himself.
- 29:04Speaker 17: And I was like, that's nice to know, man, So
- 29:06Speaker 17: appreciate that.
- 29:08Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, I'm man. That's my dad's man.
- 29:15Speaker 17: Two questions. One, you guys probably can't answer. And if
- 29:19Speaker 17: even if you know, you probably aren't allowed because the
- 29:22Speaker 17: pr what's going on with Trayvon?
- 29:25Speaker 5: Two?
- 29:26Speaker 17: How did you two become friends? And I'll take it
- 29:28Speaker 17: off the air and listen and God bless you and
- 29:30Speaker 17: think and I really hope you make it this year.
- 29:32Speaker 17: You know you deserve it.
- 29:33Speaker 4: Thanks brother, thank you, Uh Trayvon. I mean, honestly, they're
- 29:41Speaker 4: really not saying, what's what's going on? He had he
- 29:44Speaker 4: got a concussion at home? What the story is? Which
- 29:48Speaker 4: of which of the four stories should I believe? And
- 29:51Speaker 4: I don't know, doesn't really matter what matters. I mean,
- 29:55Speaker 4: what really matters is is he going to be able
- 29:57Speaker 4: to play, you know, this week or next week? And
- 30:00Speaker 4: that's something they still don't know the answer to. They're frustrated.
- 30:06Speaker 4: They're frustrated because there are players, not just players, there's people.
- 30:10Speaker 4: Think about your own office, think about people you go
- 30:12Speaker 4: to school with. If it ain't one thing, it's another, right, Okay,
- 30:16Speaker 4: it always is, And that those people are frustrating because
- 30:19Speaker 4: you know they're talented, but it's just hard to trust
- 30:23Speaker 4: on and off the field. Then I don't know how
- 30:25Speaker 4: to say it.
- 30:26Speaker 2: I don't either, and I don't know the situation. I'll
- 30:28Speaker 2: just call it what it is. I don't know the situation. No,
- 30:30Speaker 2: I didn't play this week, and I heard it was concussion.
- 30:33Speaker 2: That's as much as I actually know about the situation.
- 30:36Speaker 2: Now I can tell you this, it ain't good.
- 30:39Speaker 5: Whatever it is.
- 30:40Speaker 2: He's not here at the facility, and I'm not sure
- 30:42Speaker 2: if he showed up at the facility. If he has
- 30:44Speaker 2: not shown up at the facility, then it is definitely
- 30:47Speaker 2: not good.
- 30:47Speaker 4: Showed up yesterday. He showed up yesterday, but it's still
- 30:51Speaker 4: I don't think he was one hundred percent cleared concussion
- 30:55Speaker 4: protocol and all that. I think they sent him home.
- 30:57Speaker 4: From what I was being told there the other question,
- 31:02Speaker 4: you know, I don't know. I mean, I don't know
- 31:04Speaker 4: if you'd say we're like great friends or whatever. I
- 31:07Speaker 4: don't know. Every time he mf's me, every time he
- 31:10Speaker 4: sees me, that's my friend. But this is what I'll
- 31:16Speaker 4: say about about Darren. I'll answer this part. I was,
- 31:20Speaker 4: oh god. It was probably second or third year working
- 31:23Speaker 4: for the Cowboys, might have been two thousand and one,
- 31:25Speaker 4: and it was a training camp. Joe Avazana was singing
- 31:28Speaker 4: up at some bar in which it's all falls and
- 31:32Speaker 4: I remember talking to you there. You know, it was
- 31:35Speaker 4: just who was just one night out and wichitall whatever.
- 31:37Speaker 4: And I remember talking to you and you were asking
- 31:40Speaker 4: questions like so you worked for the team or your
- 31:42Speaker 4: media or whatever, and I was kind of explaining a
- 31:44Speaker 4: little bit no player did. No player cares. Players don't
- 31:47Speaker 4: really know the difference between your mediator in the locker room,
- 31:50Speaker 4: you're not you're with us. Who knows who cares? You
- 31:52Speaker 4: were kind of asking questions, and I just remember that
- 31:55Speaker 4: you always were that way, where like you always treated
- 31:58Speaker 4: every person like a person, not just well he's media
- 32:02Speaker 4: or whatever. You just treat people the way.
- 32:04Speaker 5: Yeah, we're regular folks. I just played a game.
- 32:07Speaker 2: I mean, it's no different than and I guess in
- 32:10Speaker 2: my life, I've always been inquisitive too, man, And that's
- 32:13Speaker 2: the reason why I'm in the business, why I'm in
- 32:15Speaker 2: the commercial real estate, is that I'm I've always been
- 32:18Speaker 2: inquisitive to understand who's who am I working with one.
- 32:22Speaker 2: I'm going to see you every day, and you know,
- 32:26Speaker 2: I'm going to have my good days in my bad days,
- 32:28Speaker 2: just like anyone else. Just I'm no different than anyone else.
- 32:31Speaker 2: But I just want to know and get to know
- 32:34Speaker 2: people that I'm going to see every single day.
- 32:36Speaker 5: Now why wouldn't I want to know?
- 32:38Speaker 4: Well, you're just the most humble, humble superstar player that
- 32:42Speaker 4: I've ever seen. I mean seriously, because and I joke
- 32:45Speaker 4: about it all the time. Is that like you kind
- 32:47Speaker 4: of know the lay of the land here. There's one
- 32:50Speaker 4: side of the building is all cowboys and then the
- 32:53Speaker 4: other side is commercial businesses. And your office is over there,
- 32:57Speaker 4: was over there right still It is okay because I
- 32:59Speaker 4: know y'all we're talking about moving it. But this guy's
- 33:03Speaker 4: he can go anywhere he wants and he knows it,
- 33:05Speaker 4: but he doesn't. He's like he'll call me. He's called
- 33:07Speaker 4: me before, like hey, can you escort me over here?
- 33:09Speaker 5: And I'm like, your.
- 33:11Speaker 4: Name is on the floorda yeah, man, But you don't
- 33:14Speaker 4: ever act like that. You don't ever act like you're
- 33:16Speaker 4: five time pro bowler that's in the Ring of Honor
- 33:19Speaker 4: and is going to be in the Hall of Fame.
- 33:22Speaker 5: I just you know what that means. Man. That's my mama.
- 33:25Speaker 5: My mom used to found it.
- 33:26Speaker 4: Chris, Chris, Chris is finding this big running back for
- 33:29Speaker 4: I think you found it.
- 33:30Speaker 6: D D.
- 33:31Speaker 5: Duck There you go, that's it.
- 33:33Speaker 6: D J.
- 33:34Speaker 4: Duckett A six four Michigan State.
- 33:37Speaker 2: You got to understand our locker room is back there, yeah,
- 33:39Speaker 2: from Michigan State, and our locker room back there at Dion,
- 33:42Speaker 2: Kevin Smith and all these guys. And we would watch
- 33:45Speaker 2: film and we would see like the opposing team and
- 33:47Speaker 2: the duck it was running guys over all the time,
- 33:50Speaker 2: and they're looking at me like, what you're gonna do?
- 33:52Speaker 2: What what you're gonna do? Like and you know there
- 33:54Speaker 2: ain't no again, you can't. You got to stick your
- 33:57Speaker 2: chest up and show that you're gonna show up.
- 33:59Speaker 4: Hey. Now, if there was a T. J. Duckett for
- 34:02Speaker 4: the All Storyline Team, it's this next caller here right,
- 34:06Speaker 4: Sergeant Sue in fort Worth. All right, guns.
- 34:09Speaker 18: Magee here, hey, at ease, everybody.
- 34:12Speaker 13: Nick, how you doing, brother?
- 34:13Speaker 4: I'm good man? How you doing them?
- 34:15Speaker 12: You're doing great?
- 34:15Speaker 18: Woody?
- 34:16Speaker 15: How are you?
- 34:16Speaker 7: Hey?
- 34:17Speaker 6: Don't let them talk. Don't let them talk me up. Man,
- 34:18Speaker 6: I'm not a big guy.
- 34:20Speaker 4: Nah, you're you're the king of this medium, though you
- 34:23Speaker 4: know you are.
- 34:24Speaker 18: It's just great angles, great angles. But hey, first of all,
- 34:28Speaker 18: Woody Man, thank you so much for coming again on
- 34:31Speaker 18: the show. The YouTube chats blowing up.
- 34:33Speaker 13: We all love you, man.
- 34:33Speaker 18: We appreciate you. And you know you have a whole
- 34:36Speaker 18: army of storyliners in your corner. I'm not sure what
- 34:39Speaker 18: that means, but just so you know that you know
- 34:42Speaker 18: that's the.
- 34:42Speaker 5: Truth, you know.
- 34:43Speaker 18: And and yes, sir, yes, sir, my question for you,
- 34:46Speaker 18: and I know we touched on it a little bit,
- 34:48Speaker 18: and this is something that I talked to you before,
- 34:50Speaker 18: and I mentioned that I played safety like yourself. I
- 34:53Speaker 18: was very close to going the NFL, except I was
- 34:55Speaker 18: five to six, you know, so I.
- 34:56Speaker 6: Didn't really make it. But my question for you is is.
- 34:59Speaker 18: With with transitioning to his zone defense. I was trying
- 35:04Speaker 18: to explain to a lot of people and maybe I'm wrong,
- 35:06Speaker 18: and I'm not too proud to be to be corrected.
- 35:09Speaker 18: So when I was explaining it to people, I was
- 35:12Speaker 18: just talking about the eye discipline, you know, zone eyes
- 35:14Speaker 18: versus man eyes, and being able to see wide receivers
- 35:17Speaker 18: coming into your zone, wide receivers leaving your zone, communicating
- 35:20Speaker 18: when someone's leaving your zone into somebody else's zone, things
- 35:23Speaker 18: like that versus a man eyes. When you're kind of
- 35:24Speaker 18: watching the wide receiver's hips, you're trying to stay on
- 35:27Speaker 18: their hips, watching their eyes, washing their hands can you
- 35:29Speaker 18: kind of explain the difference between the two for maybe
- 35:31Speaker 18: linebackers and defensive backs and kind of explain why it's
- 35:34Speaker 18: stricty transitioning even for professionals. I'll take your call off.
- 35:38Speaker 18: I'll take your answer off the call.
- 35:39Speaker 2: Thank you have so much, Thank you perfect. I mean
- 35:42Speaker 2: you just described as such. I think you know better
- 35:44Speaker 2: than anybody. When you're playing man to man, that's your
- 35:46Speaker 2: guy and you're locked in on his hips. You're trying
- 35:50Speaker 2: to figure out where he's going to break. Is it
- 35:52Speaker 2: inside or is it outside. You're doing the count in
- 35:54Speaker 2: your head like you're covering him. Man, demand one thousand
- 35:57Speaker 2: and one, one thousand and two. That ball better be
- 35:59Speaker 2: out at one one thousand and three, right, So you're
- 36:01Speaker 2: trying to anticipate breaks. That is Manda, Man, he is
- 36:05Speaker 2: your guy. You get beat. That's on you zone. Totally
- 36:10Speaker 2: different zone is My eyes are more focused on the
- 36:14Speaker 2: quarterback and being able to pass off players. When players
- 36:18Speaker 2: in my zone and he interns another one, you pass
- 36:21Speaker 2: them off. You stay stay putt with My eyes are
- 36:24Speaker 2: directly trying to focus on the quarterback at all time.
- 36:28Speaker 4: How much did Dion ever play zone?
- 36:30Speaker 2: Not much, dude, you know what I came in the league.
- 36:32Speaker 2: We played two coverages before Dion even got here. We
- 36:35Speaker 2: played what we call Cover four, which is like kind
- 36:38Speaker 2: of man zone, a little bit, a little mix. Uh,
- 36:43Speaker 2: and then we played Cover one. Yeah, we didn't play
- 36:45Speaker 2: Cover two. I didn't play Cover two until years the
- 36:48Speaker 2: year seven or eight in my in my career. Dion
- 36:51Speaker 2: came in and we try to play a little Cover
- 36:55Speaker 2: four and didn't work. We had to play Manda Man
- 36:56Speaker 2: and that's what we were, a Manda Man team.
- 36:58Speaker 5: That's funny.
- 37:00Speaker 4: Dean could play man and zone at the same time
- 37:03Speaker 4: because he would bait his receiving Yeah he would. He
- 37:07Speaker 4: would like, you know, trail they so he can get
- 37:10Speaker 4: a play.
- 37:11Speaker 2: Yeah, so he could get a play. I mean he
- 37:12Speaker 2: used to watch this guy. I mean, man, just you
- 37:16Speaker 2: talk about just being a phenomenal you know, God made
- 37:19Speaker 2: Deon Sanders play cornerback.
- 37:21Speaker 5: Yeah he did. He's like, hey, man, Jesu, this is
- 37:23Speaker 5: what you do in baseball and baseball right.
- 37:25Speaker 2: But but at the cornerback position, he had the best hands.
- 37:28Speaker 2: And you always measure an athlete by great hands, great feet.
- 37:32Speaker 5: Uh.
- 37:32Speaker 2: And people don't realize how strong he was at the
- 37:35Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. I mean, Dion was a strong football player,
- 37:38Speaker 2: but when he played the game, he was smart. He
- 37:42Speaker 2: you know, study his butt off and do all the
- 37:44Speaker 2: little things. But he was gifted. He had a gift
- 37:48Speaker 2: to play that position. But you know, watching him prepare
- 37:51Speaker 2: week in and week out, man, it was phenomenal. I
- 37:53Speaker 2: was one of those guys that used to just admire
- 37:55Speaker 2: Hi because all you hear about is Prime Time and
- 37:57Speaker 2: see on Monday, you know him putting this time man good.
- 38:00Speaker 4: That's awesome. Okay, we got a chance for a couple
- 38:02Speaker 4: more calls here, Rick in Massachusetts. Rick, what's up?
- 38:06Speaker 15: Hey, Nick? How you doing good?
- 38:08Speaker 5: Man got with this?
- 38:12Speaker 15: Yeah, what's up, Boddy? How are you doing great?
- 38:14Speaker 5: Man doing great?
- 38:16Speaker 15: Yeah? As far as said that, the uh Cowboys nation
- 38:21Speaker 15: and storyliners believe you're you're in the Hall of Fame.
- 38:25Speaker 15: I know you'll get there soon, but uh we all
- 38:29Speaker 15: agree that you know you're in the Hall of fame
- 38:31Speaker 15: as far as we're concerned.
- 38:32Speaker 5: Well, thank you. I appreciate that you got a question.
- 38:38Speaker 15: Yeah, no, just call and talk. But uh talk to
- 38:43Speaker 15: Buddy and you Nick and everything. But keeping with everything
- 38:48Speaker 15: going and I'll talk to you guys later.
- 38:49Speaker 4: Thanks. Appreciate. All right, We're gonna keep it rolling now.
- 38:52Speaker 4: Josh in Chicago, Josh, what's up?
- 38:55Speaker 16: Hey, guys? What are you good to talk to you?
- 38:57Speaker 16: Thanks for being here. I was actually giving Nick a
- 38:59Speaker 16: hard time a couple of sco saying when's what are
- 39:01Speaker 16: you going to be back?
- 39:02Speaker 5: Right?
- 39:03Speaker 4: That's right man.
- 39:04Speaker 16: I was trying to get on here so bad today.
- 39:05Speaker 16: I was like, if I don't get to talk to Woody,
- 39:07Speaker 16: I'm going to be so.
- 39:08Speaker 4: Upsetsh you pulled some strings, you got it working.
- 39:11Speaker 16: Yeah, thanks, thanks for being with us. And I'll just
- 39:13Speaker 16: echo what everyone says when the Hall of Fame announcement comes.
- 39:15Speaker 16: Please you know something somehow NFL has to do it
- 39:18Speaker 16: on this show for you, you know, like that's what's
- 39:19Speaker 16: got to really happen.
- 39:21Speaker 4: What's weird is that you're gonna know right now? The
- 39:24Speaker 4: way it is like that, I don't know how well
- 39:27Speaker 4: they find out. They kind of tell you beforehand, right
- 39:30Speaker 4: a little bit or.
- 39:31Speaker 2: Okay, So what's the they do? They show up at
- 39:33Speaker 2: the house. I've been watching them show up at Guy's house.
- 39:36Speaker 2: So the guys I know. Eric Allen didn't know. Last year,
- 39:39Speaker 2: he and I talked a lot. He had no idea.
- 39:41Speaker 4: But but when you go up like this year the
- 39:43Speaker 4: Super Bowls in San Francisco.
- 39:44Speaker 5: Oh you can't.
- 39:44Speaker 2: Yeah, you already know, you already know before you get there. Yeah,
- 39:47Speaker 2: but there was a problem be able to tell.
- 39:48Speaker 4: Me whether or not I should get my fight.
- 39:50Speaker 16: Or hopefully you'll have one.
- 39:54Speaker 4: I'm going, man, I'm doing.
- 39:56Speaker 2: That's probably why they won't put me, because you know
- 39:57Speaker 2: I'm a blast and I'll put it on all social A.
- 40:01Speaker 4: Great day though, that's going to be a party. I
- 40:03Speaker 4: cannot wait for you to come in. This isn't gold,
- 40:06Speaker 4: This is kind of brownish. I can't wait for you
- 40:09Speaker 4: to come in here with with Are you not gonna
- 40:10Speaker 4: wear your gold because you're so humble, You're not ever
- 40:12Speaker 4: going to do that?
- 40:13Speaker 5: Wear it everywhere. I'm wear it everywhere. Man, I almost
- 40:15Speaker 5: go show up.
- 40:16Speaker 6: You know.
- 40:16Speaker 2: I saw Drew Pearson were here. Is everywhere for the
- 40:19Speaker 2: first nine months.
- 40:21Speaker 16: Yeah, it's gonna be Brian Broadest at the airport too, right,
- 40:24Speaker 16: Brian Brodis is going to see it on Twitter and
- 40:26Speaker 16: he's gonna be the one blowing it up to everyone.
- 40:29Speaker 4: All right, Josh, if you got a question for Woody,
- 40:31Speaker 4: let's do it quick.
- 40:32Speaker 16: Yes, sir, so, I actually so the question occup at
- 40:35Speaker 16: light today. The question that I asked Nick yesterday was
- 40:38Speaker 16: over the the past weekend with the homecoming game and everything.
- 40:41Speaker 16: Who is somebody that you really like seeing in a
- 40:43Speaker 16: good conversation you had. And also if you got any
- 40:46Speaker 16: Doll Parcels or Antonio Bryant stories, I think those would
- 40:48Speaker 16: be cool to hear. I've read the book.
- 40:54Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, that.
- 40:56Speaker 5: Was a great one.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Man.
- 40:57Speaker 2: You know, he's crazy. You forget, I forget about the story.
- 41:00Speaker 2: And I just saw ab about three four months ago
- 41:02Speaker 2: at the barbershop. He's doing well doing the straight it
- 41:05Speaker 2: owns a little business. He's doing well, very well. So
- 41:08Speaker 2: I was there when when that happened, when the when
- 41:11Speaker 2: uh Antonio threw his jersey, And it was crazy because
- 41:14Speaker 2: he threw his jersey at Coach Parcels and and I
- 41:18Speaker 2: don't think he I don't think he meant to throw
- 41:20Speaker 2: it at coach parts. I think he threw it, meant
- 41:22Speaker 2: to throw it and act and it hit Parcels. And
- 41:24Speaker 2: Parcels will tell you. He used to always tell me.
- 41:27Speaker 2: He says, hey, Woodson, I got one fight left to me,
- 41:29Speaker 2: and I'm saving it for your ass. That's what he'd
- 41:30Speaker 2: always say to me. Right, But Parcels is, you know,
- 41:33Speaker 2: he's a Jersey guy. He's tough. He got that you know,
- 41:35Speaker 2: a little tough man about him. And he had no
- 41:39Speaker 2: back down, he had zero. Like he got so old pissed.
- 41:42Speaker 2: I mean the jersey hit him. I think I think
- 41:44Speaker 2: Ab wasn't throwing a jersey at him. I think he
- 41:46Speaker 2: was trying to throw it and it hit him and
- 41:47Speaker 2: they had to pull Parcels charged him, they had to
- 41:51Speaker 2: pull him back. But it was it was funny and
- 41:54Speaker 2: it all happened. It was one reason why it happened.
- 41:57Speaker 2: It was because of Keishawn Johnson. Oh great, was the
- 42:00Speaker 2: reason why it happened. Ab was getting all the routes
- 42:03Speaker 2: on scout team. Everybo he ran a nine route, he
- 42:05Speaker 2: had to come back as a starter and and then
- 42:08Speaker 2: run a route again. And Keith Shan and some of
- 42:10Speaker 2: the older guys didn't want to get those routes, and
- 42:12Speaker 2: and Ab was walking back, running back, and he was like, man,
- 42:15Speaker 2: somebody else get me, and those guys didn't come in.
- 42:18Speaker 2: And then that's when he got pissed off, and and
- 42:20Speaker 2: just just the snowball from there.
- 42:22Speaker 5: But I look, man, Ab was a dude. Man he was.
- 42:25Speaker 4: He was talent these other ad like he really had
- 42:30Speaker 4: he was, man, yeah it all you know, just you
- 42:33Speaker 4: gotta yeah, it's gonna be everything, you know, everything and everything.
- 42:36Speaker 4: But he talent wise, boy, he was. He was outstanding,
- 42:39Speaker 4: all right, Darren. Always always a pleasure. I know you
- 42:42Speaker 4: got to go. We're gonna take our last break. Real
- 42:44Speaker 4: great what we're saying by you for real this time, Darren.
- 42:47Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
- 42:48Speaker 4: Can't wait. I can't wait for you to be and
- 42:50Speaker 4: wearing that gold jacket for sure. But also before all
- 42:52Speaker 4: that would love anytime you want to come back, Man,
- 42:54Speaker 4: you invite me. You have an open invitation. The doors invite.
- 43:00Speaker 4: Door is open for you.
- 43:01Speaker 5: So well, we have someone's sitting in there that's.
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- 44:33Speaker 4: it was great to get Darren Woodson on the show today.
- 44:36Speaker 4: He's got so much, so much wisdom, so much uh uh.
- 44:40Speaker 4: He's great with philosophy when it comes to football, but
- 44:42Speaker 4: also he breaking it down x's and those talking about
- 44:45Speaker 4: zone defenses and things like that. So so great. Uh,
- 44:48Speaker 4: it's good to hear from you guys as well. We
- 44:50Speaker 4: had Uh we had a few calls uh today, I
- 44:54Speaker 4: know not as many because Darren, you know, was here
- 44:56Speaker 4: and we wanted to hear a lot from him. Big
- 45:01Speaker 4: game this week Denver, I mean this is where the
- 45:03Speaker 4: Cowboys can can really kind of take advantage of the schedule. Uh,
- 45:08Speaker 4: these are winnable games. I mean Denver's they won eight
- 45:10Speaker 4: in a row at home. They're five and two this year.
- 45:13Speaker 4: If you see that game last week against the Giants,
- 45:15Speaker 4: should have lost. Everyone knows that. But but they're winning.
- 45:18Speaker 4: They're finding a way to win games. They had a
- 45:20Speaker 4: lot of close games this year and so that they're
- 45:23Speaker 4: winning some of them. Some of them they haven't. But
- 45:25Speaker 4: but this it'll be it'll be that kind of game
- 45:27Speaker 4: I would imagine. I think the Cowboys can can score
- 45:30Speaker 4: some points on anybody. They're just gonna have to get
- 45:32Speaker 4: get stops, figure out a way to get stops. It'll
- 45:35Speaker 4: be a lot tougher to cover those receivers than it
- 45:37Speaker 4: was against Washington. They got more talent there in Denver.
- 45:41Speaker 4: But you know, bow Knicks is a runner. He's a
- 45:44Speaker 4: guy that you that you certainly have to to, you know,
- 45:46Speaker 4: watch when he gets out of the backfield. And also
- 45:48Speaker 4: they have designed runs for him, so it'll you know,
- 45:52Speaker 4: they haven't won. I was going to say this to
- 45:53Speaker 4: to Woody. They haven't won in Denver since Darren Woodson
- 45:57Speaker 4: was a rookie nineteen ninety two. That's how long it's been.
- 46:01Speaker 4: Now we're talking about Darren going into the Hall of Fame.
- 46:04Speaker 4: But they haven't won since then, and so they haven't played.
- 46:09Speaker 4: Of course, they haven't play every year. They haven't won
- 46:11Speaker 4: at all since nineteen ninety five they beat Denver at home.
- 46:13Speaker 4: It's been thirty years. So then they've beaten the Broncos.
- 46:16Speaker 4: So maybe this will be the year to turn things around.
- 46:18Speaker 4: The Cowboys certainly need to figure out a way to
- 46:21Speaker 4: do that. See if they can get some defensive stops.
- 46:23Speaker 4: We'll see what's going on with tray Von Diggs. See
- 46:25Speaker 4: if he returns to practice this week. All right. For
- 46:28Speaker 4: Chris Beam, I'm Nick Eatman, and for Darren Woodson, been
- 46:31Speaker 4: a lot of fun here on Cowboys storyline. We'll see
- 46:34Speaker 4: you next time.
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