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90 Day Fiance Before the 90 Days S8 E21: Tell All Part 2 · 90 Day Book Club

0:01
SPEAKER_00: The 90 Day Book Club contains adult language and is meant for entertainment purposes only.
0:11
SPEAKER_00: Hi everyone and welcome back to the 90 Day Book Club.
0:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm your host.
0:17
SPEAKER_00: My name is Jen.
0:19
SPEAKER_00: I'm a romance writer, a reader, and a reality TV junkie who is desperate to talk to strangers on the internet about reality TV.
0:30
SPEAKER_00: It's all over you guys.
0:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna do a book club corner today.
0:35
SPEAKER_00: Uh instead, I'm gonna have some thoughts about the season in general.
0:43
SPEAKER_00: Very, very soon, I'm gonna get into the premiere of season 12 of 90 Day Fiance, the original recipe, all new people.
0:52
SPEAKER_00: I cannot wait to talk about it.
0:54
SPEAKER_00: I have a lot to say about it.
0:56
SPEAKER_00: But right now, let's get into the finale, The Tell All, Part 2.
1:03
SPEAKER_00: We ended on a cliffhanger with Lisa telling us that she has been cursed.
1:12
SPEAKER_00: And in part two, we open with Faith saying, It was a black magic curse.
1:19
SPEAKER_00: Lisa is saying, I was told it could not be undone unless I came back to Nigeria.
1:25
SPEAKER_00: Sean, our lovely long-suffering host, is saying, Do you believe the things that happened, you going to the hospital, etc., are because of the curse.
1:37
SPEAKER_00: Daniel says yes.
1:39
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says yes.
1:41
SPEAKER_00: Stig is saying, I rebuke that.
1:44
SPEAKER_00: Don't accept that, Lisa.
1:46
SPEAKER_00: I'm with Stig on this one.
1:48
SPEAKER_00: Faith says, Why couldn't I know my mother was going into the hospital and was dying?
1:56
SPEAKER_00: She says, My mother had an ectopic pregnancy.
2:01
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
2:03
SPEAKER_00: And then Lisa says, I didn't know you could have pregnancy with a partial hysterectomy.
2:10
SPEAKER_00: She is crying.
2:12
SPEAKER_00: Everybody on the stage is like, I'm so sorry.
2:17
SPEAKER_00: Faith says, My mom could not save the pregnancy.
2:20
SPEAKER_00: Then we get this voiceover that I think Sean had to go back and record later.
2:25
SPEAKER_00: And ectopic pregnancy is a pregnancy that happens outside the uterus.
2:30
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says we got pregnant around the first time we had sex, her and Daniel.
2:34
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, I didn't allow Faith to go to the hospital in fear of what Daniel would say.
2:41
SPEAKER_00: Faith is yelling at Daniel, saying, You went to sleep during her surgery.
2:46
SPEAKER_00: Okay, but what time is it in Nigeria while she's having the surgery?
2:50
SPEAKER_00: I mean, come on.
2:53
SPEAKER_00: Lisa is crying, telling Daniel you are not there for me, and I don't need you.
2:59
SPEAKER_00: I know who I am today.
3:01
SPEAKER_00: Laura's all, yes, you do.
3:05
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
3:06
SPEAKER_00: A time out now.
3:08
SPEAKER_00: I I have to interject here.
3:11
SPEAKER_00: Excuse me.
3:12
SPEAKER_00: Can we talk about how this is would have been a medical miracle for someone her age to still have eggs?
3:25
SPEAKER_00: She is my age and I am whole into menopause.
3:34
SPEAKER_00: I am well into low dose HRT.
3:40
SPEAKER_00: There's no way this woman got pregnant with a partial hysterectomy on her age.
3:49
SPEAKER_00: The stats do not bear it out.
3:51
SPEAKER_00: It would be a miracle.
3:55
SPEAKER_00: And can we talk about how she lies?
3:58
SPEAKER_00: I think it was her sister or her ex-wife.
4:02
SPEAKER_00: Now, there is definitely some bias there because there's bad blood, but I mean, her sister, her members of her family have been on the internet talking about how she lies and she scams people, how she and her ex-wife allegedly lied and said she had a cancer diagnosis in order for them to get into a shelter.
4:28
SPEAKER_00: So, what I'm telling you guys, Lisa's allegedly a known scammer.
4:35
SPEAKER_00: She lied to Daniel through the entire season about the extent of her lesbianism.
4:44
SPEAKER_00: No way she was pregnant.
4:45
SPEAKER_00: I'm just saying it.
4:47
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so everyone's just buying this story.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: So Sean wants to circle back to the whole cheating accusation.
4:57
SPEAKER_00: Daniel says there is a man that she knows very well.
5:02
SPEAKER_00: Lisa confirms that she has a new person in her life.
5:07
SPEAKER_00: She says, We met on social media.
5:09
SPEAKER_00: Okay, here we go again.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: He says, She says he was there for me when Daniel and I were going through problems.
5:16
SPEAKER_00: He was my best friend, and now he's the love of my life.
5:19
SPEAKER_00: She says that she and Daniel were having a fight.
5:22
SPEAKER_00: She wanted a guy's opinion.
5:24
SPEAKER_00: And so she asked this other guy that she met on social media, and he actually sided with Daniel.
5:30
SPEAKER_00: So she took that as a green flag.
5:32
SPEAKER_00: She says, This man knows everything about me.
5:35
SPEAKER_00: He knows about my marriages.
5:38
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, So did you feel, do you feel like you were cheating on Daniel?
5:42
SPEAKER_00: And she says, No, it was a normal conversation.
5:45
SPEAKER_00: Faith says, I saw the text messages.
5:47
SPEAKER_00: They were friends.
5:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, Faith does not have the put-on southern accent that her mom has.
5:53
SPEAKER_00: Uh, these Pennsylvanians.
5:55
SPEAKER_00: But Elise says that's an emotional connection and that's a form of cheating.
5:59
SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
6:02
SPEAKER_00: Daniel says, that man has seen your nakedness.
6:05
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, he has, but you and I are not together.
6:10
SPEAKER_00: And Daniel is just not getting it through his head that the spiritual marriage doesn't mean anything.
6:18
SPEAKER_00: He says, Can you serve two masters at one time?
6:22
SPEAKER_00: Trish is going, what the hell?
6:24
SPEAKER_00: Faith is yelling at Daniel, she doesn't want you.
6:29
SPEAKER_00: And it's just all out of control.
6:31
SPEAKER_00: So Sean says, We are all curious about this missing mystery man.
6:35
SPEAKER_00: So please welcome Ty, Lisa's new man, who looks even younger than Daniel.
6:43
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks Daniel, Do you want to say hello?
6:46
SPEAKER_00: And he says, I would like to because he's my fellow man and I am not against him.
6:51
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: So Ty is 31.
6:55
SPEAKER_00: So there's, I don't know, what did she say?
6:57
SPEAKER_00: 21-year difference.
6:59
SPEAKER_00: Laura asks, How is this gonna work going forward?
7:03
SPEAKER_00: Ty says that Lisa's marriage to Daniel is not legally binding.
7:08
SPEAKER_00: Correct.
7:09
SPEAKER_00: The voice of reason.
7:11
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says she's going back to Nigeria and Faith is going with her to visit Ty.
7:18
SPEAKER_00: She says, We are gonna have a legal wedding.
7:21
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks, Ty, Have you proposed?
7:23
SPEAKER_00: Ty says, We are in the process.
7:25
SPEAKER_00: I plan to propose when she gets here.
7:28
SPEAKER_00: Elise is just flabbergasted, as are we all?
7:33
SPEAKER_00: She says, Why not go there?
7:35
SPEAKER_00: Take it easy, see where it goes.
7:37
SPEAKER_00: Faith says, Well, she's impulsive.
7:39
SPEAKER_00: That's her track record.
7:41
SPEAKER_00: Daniel's still shouting, traditionally, she is mine.
7:44
SPEAKER_00: My brother, you have to be careful.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: Ty says, Are you threatening me?
7:49
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, Daniel finds his way back into my life every which way I go.
7:54
SPEAKER_00: I can't get away from Daniel.
7:56
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, Well, jumping into a marriage is not a good way.
7:59
SPEAKER_00: Not a way to get away from Daniel.
8:01
SPEAKER_00: Faith says she can see the difference between Ty and Daniel with the way that he talks to Lisa.
8:09
SPEAKER_00: So sadly, Faith is buying into this, that this is not a scam.
8:14
SPEAKER_00: This time, poor Faith has put up with so much with her mother.
8:20
SPEAKER_00: Lisa's telling Daniel, you have to leave me alone and let me go.
8:23
SPEAKER_00: I don't have a master.
8:25
SPEAKER_00: Daniel's going on and on.
8:26
SPEAKER_00: We are traditionally married.
8:28
SPEAKER_00: Trish is like, this is insane.
8:33
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Well, this was a lot.
8:36
SPEAKER_00: There are still a lot of things that need to be figured out.
8:41
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the group takes a break.
8:44
SPEAKER_00: Backstage, Lisa and Faith are talking.
8:48
SPEAKER_00: Faith says she supports this relationship with Ty.
8:53
SPEAKER_00: 70, 75%.
8:55
SPEAKER_00: She says, I really do think you should be taking a break from relationships and take your time.
9:02
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, I will take my time with the wedding.
9:06
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: Oviva runs up and hugs Lisa.
9:09
SPEAKER_00: Please don't move to Nigeria.
9:12
SPEAKER_00: When we come back from the break, we're on to Forrest and Sheena.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: Sean is asking Forrest about his job.
9:20
SPEAKER_00: He says he earned$781 a week and he's going to get another check next week.
9:25
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks if this is enough to support himself and Sheena if she comes over to the U.S.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: He says, as long as I keep this job, I can do that.
9:36
SPEAKER_00: But it is putting a lot of stress on me and my body.
9:38
SPEAKER_00: I barely have time to talk to my Sheen, and I feel bad about it.
9:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm so tired after work, I just come home and pass out.
9:48
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
9:50
SPEAKER_00: He is so sad about it.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: There's been a lot of uh shit talking about Forrest on the internet about him complaining about his 40-hour work week because, you know, we are all us Americans working way too hard.
10:05
SPEAKER_00: Let's give the man some grace.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Okay, he's never done this before.
10:11
SPEAKER_00: He is adjusting to the workforce, being a part of the workforce.
10:19
SPEAKER_00: He's adjusting to working 40 hours a week.
10:21
SPEAKER_00: Let's give him some grace.
10:23
SPEAKER_00: This is an adjustment period.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: Yes, it's hard.
10:27
SPEAKER_00: Remember when it was hard the first time you worked a 40-hour job?
10:32
SPEAKER_00: Forrest also says he hardly has time for his mom either.
10:36
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, Well, that might not be a bad thing.
10:39
SPEAKER_00: We cut to backstage, and there's Molly watching on the monitor, and she goes, There it is.
10:48
SPEAKER_00: Everyone thinks I'm the bad guy, but they'll see when Sheena starts the waterworks.
10:53
SPEAKER_00: So already she's got her fight face on.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Forrest is being asked about if he started the K1 process.
11:03
SPEAKER_00: He says, I have to fill it out on paper and I don't have a printer.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: It's very confusing.
11:10
SPEAKER_00: So this is where I feel like Molly has severely dropped the ball.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: What do you mean he can't figure out?
11:19
SPEAKER_00: It's very confusing.
11:21
SPEAKER_00: Molly, if you're in favor of this, why aren't you setting him up for success?
11:28
SPEAKER_00: You know, somewhere there's a print.
11:31
SPEAKER_00: Forrest, you work at a pharmacy.
11:34
SPEAKER_00: Is this perhaps a Walgreens with a photo department?
11:40
SPEAKER_00: You can send files there to be printed out.
11:45
SPEAKER_00: It's super easy, pretty cheap.
11:47
SPEAKER_00: I print things at Walgreens down the street from my house all the time.
11:52
SPEAKER_00: But anyway, Rick and Aviva and Laura all promise to help Forrest.
11:58
SPEAKER_00: Anna Lynn says in the Philippines, she will help Sheena with anything that she needs with this process, and it's very sweet.
12:04
SPEAKER_00: This all warmed my heart.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: So Molly's on stage now, and I'm gonna say here, okay, she has a really cute green dress.
12:14
SPEAKER_00: It's flowy, it's comfortable.
12:17
SPEAKER_00: This is what I'm talking about with something that's flattering, comfortable, a color that suits her.
12:26
SPEAKER_00: She looks nice, but not over-the-top fancy.
12:29
SPEAKER_00: She's camera ready.
12:30
SPEAKER_00: Her hair and makeup look good too.
12:33
SPEAKER_00: This is what I mean with let's dress appropriately for TLC.
12:38
SPEAKER_00: This is the learning channel.
12:40
SPEAKER_00: This is not Bravo.
12:41
SPEAKER_00: Let's dress camera ready.
12:45
SPEAKER_00: But let's stop with the over-the-top gowns.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: It's it's not needed, but this is just my crabby opinion.
12:57
SPEAKER_00: So now we're watching some never before seen footage of Molly supplying Forest with lube and condoms.
13:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh, I don't know if this is the first night in the Philippines.
13:10
SPEAKER_00: I think this is the first night.
13:12
SPEAKER_00: Um she's telling him, have fun, be safe, turn the radio up, I guess because they're they share a wall.
13:19
SPEAKER_00: And then we see the footage that we remember from early on of her asking the next day while they're writing in an Uber, going, Did you have the old nuckie-nucky?
13:31
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, No, and she's going on and on.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: There are other things you can do, like oral fondling.
13:37
SPEAKER_00: I I had blocked all that out.
13:40
SPEAKER_00: So Sean says, Molly, when you look back at that, do you think you've been too involved?
13:45
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, No.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, That's crazy.
13:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
13:51
SPEAKER_00: Molly explains, we have open communication with each other.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, it didn't look like anyone was comfortable when you were talking about that.
14:01
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't really have any response for that.
14:05
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, It is uncomfortable for me, especially coming from my culture.
14:12
SPEAKER_00: Molly is still defending herself.
14:14
SPEAKER_00: This is just matter-of-fact kind of stuff.
14:16
SPEAKER_00: I didn't want all the juicy details.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: It makes sense to me personally that she would supply her son with condoms, etc., but it's always the problem with Molly, is her delivery.
14:31
SPEAKER_00: Her delivery, her saying, Did you do the old nucky-nucky?
14:35
SPEAKER_00: Is that kind of thing that is such a huge crossing of a line?
14:41
SPEAKER_00: So they move on to the subject of the K1 process.
14:45
SPEAKER_00: Molly is saying, I support their relationship as long as she doesn't lie.
14:49
SPEAKER_00: I feel like she's very deceptive.
14:52
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, About what?
14:54
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, It comes down to the whole K1 process and all the money with her family.
14:58
SPEAKER_00: She changes the story daily.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, culturally, for me, it's normal for me to help my family and they provide the stuff I need.
15:08
SPEAKER_00: They didn't have to ask anymore compared to recent years.
15:13
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, so they've not been asking.
15:15
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, No.
15:16
SPEAKER_00: Molly calls this out as untrue.
15:19
SPEAKER_00: She says, they've asked as recently as a week ago.
15:23
SPEAKER_00: Sheena's getting upset.
15:26
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, Are you gonna start crying now, Sheena?
15:31
SPEAKER_00: I hate this.
15:32
SPEAKER_00: Anna, of course, is queen of the tell hall and says, That's bullying.
15:39
SPEAKER_00: Trisha says, Yeah, she's coming on too strong.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: I am glad these women are calling her out.
15:45
SPEAKER_00: Sheena recovers.
15:47
SPEAKER_00: She's like, I'm not crying.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: My parents, they do not ask for money anymore.
15:52
SPEAKER_00: Elise looks at her and says, Is that the truth?
15:55
SPEAKER_00: Sheena doesn't respond.
15:57
SPEAKER_00: Now it could be that she doesn't know how to respond to Elise and her directness.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: Um, she could also be that she doesn't quite hear and she can't see who the question's coming from because she's calling in on Zoom.
16:13
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says to Molly, who told you that?
16:19
SPEAKER_00: And Elise says she's looking at Forrest.
16:22
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Forrest, did you tell your mom that?
16:25
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, Sheena's not lying.
16:27
SPEAKER_00: They have asked, but she did not send the money.
16:29
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, they didn't ask.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, so they have asked you, but you haven't given.
16:35
SPEAKER_00: There's a difference.
16:36
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, I don't understand.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: And this is Sheena's whole problem, too.
16:42
SPEAKER_00: Is she starts to fall apart because she somehow the truth is embarrassing for her, and then she can't keep up the lie when she's getting bombarded with questions.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: So she just gets emotional and confused.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: Forrest said, Your parents said, Can you help us?
16:59
SPEAKER_00: But you said no.
17:01
SPEAKER_00: Trisha is telling her you don't have to lie.
17:05
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn finally explains in a way that I think we all understand.
17:10
SPEAKER_00: She says, Sheena feels intimidated.
17:12
SPEAKER_00: She says to Molly, Every time you talk to her, you have this energy that you want to fight her.
17:19
SPEAKER_00: Anna is spot on.
17:22
SPEAKER_00: Molly says, I think Sheena's a good fit for him.
17:25
SPEAKER_00: I want them to have a life and to succeed.
17:28
SPEAKER_00: But she says to Sheena, you are working all these hours, and then they give your parents give money to your brother.
17:35
SPEAKER_00: Her brother?
17:36
SPEAKER_00: When has the brother been brought up?
17:38
SPEAKER_00: This is the first time we've ever heard about a brother.
17:40
SPEAKER_00: We met Katrina, we met the dad, Steve.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: We still have not met the mother, and now we're bringing up a brother.
17:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't understand what's going on.
17:50
SPEAKER_00: This is all very muddy, and there's just a lot of vague answers.
17:55
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks about the screenshots that Sheena had promised Forrest to send of her accounts.
18:02
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says he hasn't asked for them.
18:03
SPEAKER_00: Sheena says, I can send them whenever you want.
18:06
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, You guys are gonna have to get over this whole being afraid of telling the truth that will chip away at the foundation of a relationship.
18:16
SPEAKER_00: Forrest says, as soon as he leaves here, he's ready to start filling out the paperwork with everybody's help.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: And Sean is uh Sean says, Well, we wish you all the best.
18:31
SPEAKER_00: So we didn't really resolve anything between Molly and Sheena.
18:35
SPEAKER_00: Moving on to Stig and Aviva.
18:40
SPEAKER_00: Hoo boy.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Aviva, so not long after the proposal, things went wrong.
18:47
SPEAKER_00: And she says to Aviva, you were open very quickly to having a child.
18:52
SPEAKER_00: Why?
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, Well, we'd been talking for several years.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: I didn't go into this wanting one right away, but I would not have been upset about it.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Stig, You had not said I love you, and you're ready for a child.
19:06
SPEAKER_00: And Stig says, I did have love for Aviva.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: I was open to starting a family.
19:11
SPEAKER_00: I was genuine about that.
19:14
SPEAKER_00: Lores points out, this is super irresponsible.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, I agree it was irresponsible, but when you love somebody, you love somebody.
19:24
SPEAKER_00: Forrest just puts out there, I believe Stig was sleeping around with other people.
19:29
SPEAKER_00: So they replay the proposal, and Aviva's crying.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: Stig claims he had genuine intentions.
19:36
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks, How did we get to this point?
19:39
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, When I got home, our relationship turned toxic.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: He was so mean to me.
19:45
SPEAKER_00: And Stig says, Why was I like that?
19:48
SPEAKER_00: Tell me why.
19:48
SPEAKER_00: Look at me right now and say you didn't cheat.
19:51
SPEAKER_00: So Aviva says, in Belize, someone texted me and said, That guy is never going to love you like I would.
20:01
SPEAKER_00: Do we know who that was?
20:03
SPEAKER_00: Who texted her?
20:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: She replied, Yeah, you're right.
20:08
SPEAKER_00: Once again, as we learned with Rick, why are you replying to texts from other people while you're with this person?
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Stig says she got caught talking to other guys, hanging around other guys.
20:24
SPEAKER_00: Stig says, one time she said she was going to Mexico, Mexico for a weekend with the girls.
20:31
SPEAKER_00: Said she was going to sit by the pool and read a book.
20:39
SPEAKER_00: But he was complaining that she didn't reply to his calls or his texts while she was in Mexico.
20:46
SPEAKER_00: And Aviva looks at him and says, It sucks, doesn't it?
20:50
SPEAKER_00: And so here we finally see that Stig has some major double standards.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Stig says that she was at a pool party.
21:01
SPEAKER_00: He said he saw a video of her in a whole section with a bunch of guys.
21:07
SPEAKER_00: And we're supposed to be scandalized by the fact that she was at a party in Mexico and there were guys present at the party.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: And she told them she he was going, she was going to Mexico.
21:18
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, I was at a fucking party.
21:21
SPEAKER_00: She says he would go out every night and never answer my calls.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: I couldn't look out the fucking window without it being a problem.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: She said, I went out with a coworker who was a female and he was freaking the fuck out and cursing at me.
21:40
SPEAKER_00: She apologizes for all the swears.
21:43
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm sorry, but that's how you talk to me.
21:46
SPEAKER_00: F this, F you.
21:48
SPEAKER_00: Stig is very lamely trying to defend himself, saying at this point I wasn't talking to you like that.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: I think at the point of her being at the party, Max.
22:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm not sure.
22:01
SPEAKER_00: Finally, Emma says something I agree with, and everyone else also chimes in.
22:05
SPEAKER_00: You shouldn't be talking to her like that ever.
22:07
SPEAKER_00: And Aviva points out, you were at a bar when you were talking to me like that.
22:12
SPEAKER_00: Sean brings on Aunt Spring and Corinth.
22:16
SPEAKER_00: Aunt Spring says, When I left Belize, I was supportive, but then I started getting messages.
22:23
SPEAKER_00: She started getting messages from her moles in Belize about his activities.
22:28
SPEAKER_00: She says, the girl that was in a music video with him has been seen around with him, and Stig ghosted Aviva after the music video.
22:40
SPEAKER_00: Stig says that didn't happen.
22:42
SPEAKER_00: Josh says there's a lot of accusations flying around with no real proof.
22:47
SPEAKER_00: And that just throws a wet blanket on the whole thing, doesn't it?
22:52
SPEAKER_00: So they run this never before seen video of Corinth.
22:57
SPEAKER_00: For some reason, it's just Corinth running her mouth and nothing else saying that Aviva is too deep in the blue hole to see everything clearly.
23:10
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so I learned something.
23:13
SPEAKER_00: The deep blue hole.
23:15
SPEAKER_00: There's a place off the coast of Belize called the Big Blue Hole, and I guess it's this huge drop-off that's very famous for snorkeling and diving.
23:26
SPEAKER_00: So I guess that's an expression.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: Carith says in this footage that he has been around, he has pregnant girls all around.
23:35
SPEAKER_00: More than one girl is pregnant right now, I think.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's it.
23:41
SPEAKER_00: There's no evidence, just her saying that.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks Stig, is there any truth to that?
23:47
SPEAKER_00: He says no.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, so it's an out and out lie.
23:51
SPEAKER_00: Stig says, yes.
23:52
SPEAKER_00: Corinth says Belize is a small country.
23:56
SPEAKER_00: He told my friend about this girl.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: He also said there could be another girl who is pregnant.
24:02
SPEAKER_00: And there's rumors that he has a child already.
24:05
SPEAKER_00: Stig says, listen, I did not grow up with a dad.
24:08
SPEAKER_00: I can't wait to be a dad so I can be the best father I can be.
24:12
SPEAKER_00: So don't be playing with my name like that.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Aviva, who do you believe?
24:18
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, if he had a kid, we would know about it.
24:22
SPEAKER_00: Is he messing around?
24:23
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
24:24
SPEAKER_00: But a kid, no.
24:26
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Well, Aviva and Stig, I'm sorry you were unable to work things out.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: Best wishes in the future for the both of you.
24:34
SPEAKER_00: And they take another break.
24:36
SPEAKER_00: And backstage, I want to throw my flip-flop at Rick for putting his hands on Aviva to comfort her.
24:42
SPEAKER_00: Stop it.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: Backstage, Forrest is bonding with Rick for some reason.
24:49
SPEAKER_00: Rick is saying it's impossible to be a faithful rap star.
24:52
SPEAKER_00: You've got women everywhere, women all up in your DMs.
24:56
SPEAKER_00: And faith Forrest is kind of funny.
24:58
SPEAKER_00: He says, I think I'm going to become a famous rap star.
25:02
SPEAKER_00: Lee says when she's talking to Laura, I don't think Sheena's being completely honest.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, I think the more Molly attacks her, the more prone Sheena is to lie a little bit more.
25:15
SPEAKER_00: This is a teacher coming out.
25:17
SPEAKER_00: She understands the behavior of liars.
25:20
SPEAKER_00: Forrest and Molly are talking, and then Lisa walks up.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm going to interrupt you.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: I was ready to tell you what a bad mom you are.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: I was ready to stop my feet and scream.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: And she says, But you're not.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: The more I watch, the more and more I see she's hiding something.
25:40
SPEAKER_00: And Forrest is standing right there, and she turns to Forrest and says, You and Sheena are so perfect together, but make sure you get all the information.
25:49
SPEAKER_00: Lisa is the last person to be giving advice about relationships, as we all know, but here we are.
25:58
SPEAKER_00: Poor Forrest goes to the confessional booth and says, None of this puts a damper on how I feel about Sheena.
26:05
SPEAKER_00: Of course not.
26:06
SPEAKER_00: Of course not.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: After the break, Sean asks Elise and Joshua how the reconciliation happened.
26:15
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, Yeah, she got on the plane and I realized she was worth fighting for.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: He reached out and said he wanted to make it work.
26:26
SPEAKER_00: Elise says he's made so much effort.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: He has a new job with a salary.
26:32
SPEAKER_00: We share locations.
26:34
SPEAKER_00: He's not living with Nat anymore.
26:36
SPEAKER_00: He stopped partying.
26:37
SPEAKER_00: He's actually moving away from Sydney to be closer to his son.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Elise, so you finally said, I love you back.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: She says, You she says, yes.
26:50
SPEAKER_00: And they actually spent two and a half weeks together in Miami when he came to visit, and they got tattoos of each other's names.
27:02
SPEAKER_00: Josh got Elise's name on his wrist.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: Elise got Josh's name tattooed on the back of her shoulder.
27:09
SPEAKER_00: And you can see some other words that have been lasered off underneath it.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: Uh kids, what are you doing?
27:22
SPEAKER_00: Getting tattoos of your boyfriend, girlfriend's name?
27:29
SPEAKER_00: You're not even engaged, not married, you haven't bought a house together, have not signed anything together on the dotted line, and you're getting tattoos.
27:38
SPEAKER_00: This is unhinged behavior.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Everyone on stage though is saying how cute this is.
27:44
SPEAKER_00: Nobody thinks this is nuts.
27:47
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, so Chris is back.
27:51
SPEAKER_00: So time for some eye candy.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: Sean asked Chris, Do you think her standards are too high?
27:58
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, She was high maintenance, but we all saw that coming.
28:02
SPEAKER_00: But we all saw that coming.
28:03
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, We didn't have a toilet that worked at the Airbnb.
28:08
SPEAKER_00: Apparently, it wobbled a bit when you sat on it.
28:10
SPEAKER_00: That was news to me.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Well, now you're back together.
28:13
SPEAKER_00: Are you confident that Josh will be able to contribute financially to the relationship in the future?
28:21
SPEAKER_00: Elise looks at Josh and says, Tell them what you did the other day.
28:25
SPEAKER_00: Josh looks a little lost at first.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: And this is giving like a mommy telling her little kid, tell everybody what you did.
28:35
SPEAKER_00: We're so proud of you.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: Uh anyway, so Josh bought Elise a one-way ticket to Australia.
28:42
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, Are you moving here for good, Elise?
28:45
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, Chris, I have a one-way ticket.
28:48
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, I thought you just didn't know when you're gonna go home.
28:51
SPEAKER_00: Are you actually coming over here to stay permanently with Josh?
28:56
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, Of course, that's the plan.
28:58
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, Oh, great.
29:00
SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna have to come visit and I'll find a girl to bring along.
29:03
SPEAKER_00: Emma, the eternal pick me, says, Chris, I'll come with you.
29:08
SPEAKER_00: Chris is like, who said that?
29:10
SPEAKER_00: And these people who are on Zoom, they cannot see, I don't think, anybody else who's on the stage.
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Emma's like, me.
29:19
SPEAKER_00: Chris is like, oh, okay, yeah, she can come.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: Josh, buy her a ticket too.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: Chris doesn't care.
29:24
SPEAKER_00: He's down for anything.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Uh Sean then welcomes Nat to the stage on yet another screen.
29:35
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Nat, what do you say to people who say you and Josh have too close of a relationship?
29:43
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, I have a lot of friends.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: I have a lot of male friends and friends in general.
29:49
SPEAKER_00: I went through a rough time last year, and he was there for me, and I was there for him.
29:55
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Nat, do you think Josh misled Elise in any way?
29:59
SPEAKER_00: She says, No.
30:00
SPEAKER_00: Okay, and I have to say here, Natalie has her laptop or her phone camera positioned in such a way that we can see like right up her chin, right up her nose, like boomer grandma who doesn't understand camera angles.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: Get a big old stack of books.
30:22
SPEAKER_00: Listen, I am a romance reader.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: I also read romanticy.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: I have a great big ass stack of super thick Ruby Dixon books on my desk when I need to do a zoom.
30:36
SPEAKER_00: I don't care if it's my therapist, I don't care if it's professional.
30:41
SPEAKER_00: You the the big stack of books is a lifesaver.
30:46
SPEAKER_00: Nobody wants to see this angle on anyone.
30:51
SPEAKER_00: Especially not a woman of a certain age.
30:53
SPEAKER_00: And I can say that because I am a woman of a certain age.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: So they roll tape of the bar incident when Elise freaked out in the bar and started polling everybody about their thoughts on Nat and Josh's relationship.
31:09
SPEAKER_00: Sean says to Nat, You called her a psycho.
31:12
SPEAKER_00: Do you stand by that?
31:14
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, I stand by the psycho comment.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: The behavior was erratic, so it was warranted.
31:20
SPEAKER_00: Josh says the bigger issue was you, Elise, being jealous of our relationship.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: Elise says it started off on the wrong foot because you lied to me.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: So of course I'm going to feel uncomfortable.
31:31
SPEAKER_00: Would you guys feel uncomfortable?
31:33
SPEAKER_00: She says to the group.
31:34
SPEAKER_00: Yes, resounding yes from everyone.
31:37
SPEAKER_00: So next they bring up the times where Josh left Elise alone to go and see Nat.
31:44
SPEAKER_00: And he says, Well, she was going through a rough time.
31:47
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, I was hysterical at one point, so maybe give some consideration for that.
31:53
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, Is Josh the only person you can go to for support?
31:59
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, No, I have a lot of friends.
32:02
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, Great.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: So maybe one of those friends should have been the person you leaned on.
32:10
SPEAKER_00: Nat knows she's been caught.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: And so she just laughs.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't have a comeback for that because it's an excellent question.
32:21
SPEAKER_00: So they're getting into the financials of their relationship.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: And just like with Forrest and Sheena, I I don't like everybody intruding on how much Sheena makes because it's incumbent on the American in this scenario to supply the money for the K1.
32:44
SPEAKER_00: So this is all kinds of gross.
32:46
SPEAKER_00: And this is also gross.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: And they're grilling Josh about money and when it his relationship to Elise and her money.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: So apparently, Elise's father has some concerns about Josh.
33:03
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, My father's concerns are valid because I've been used financially in the past.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: So my dad's money is not money that I can spend on Josh.
33:14
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, I fell for you before I knew about your family history.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks Elise, how much do you depend on your father?
33:22
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, Not much anymore.
33:24
SPEAKER_00: Some days I write myself a check from my trust fund and call it a day.
33:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, okay, so Sean says, Oh, so you are a trust fund baby.
33:35
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, if you want to call it that, yeah.
33:38
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we want to call it that, Elise.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: She says, that money's there to take care of me and the children I may have.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: And Josh says, Well, that's great.
33:48
SPEAKER_00: I don't want it.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: I didn't earn it.
33:49
SPEAKER_00: I'm not entitled to it.
33:51
SPEAKER_00: It's not mine.
33:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, end of story.
33:54
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, and this is where she gets herself in trouble while she's trying to be the host, while she's trying to be the main character.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: She says, Hearing this about Elise, it's mind-blowing to me that Josh's friends would have the audacity to say she's not good enough for him.
34:13
SPEAKER_00: Josh says, Laura, that's not fair.
34:15
SPEAKER_00: Nat says, So you're basing that on money?
34:19
SPEAKER_00: Laura quickly tries to backpedal.
34:21
SPEAKER_00: Says, no, no, no.
34:22
SPEAKER_00: I'm not basing that solely on money, but Elise has everything going for her.
34:27
SPEAKER_00: And Josh is the one who's not stable.
34:29
SPEAKER_00: She's willing to give that up and move to Australia.
34:32
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, My dad just doesn't want me to be stupid.
34:36
SPEAKER_00: And he says, he's not getting me out of trouble again.
34:39
SPEAKER_00: She says, Josh doesn't want my family money, but my dad has a financial chokehold on me.
34:45
SPEAKER_00: I have to do everything right in my dad's eyes to keep that money.
34:48
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, Elise, you're not losing your trust fund if you move to Australia.
34:53
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, I hope to God no.
34:55
SPEAKER_00: And then Lisa says, Would you be willing to give up your trust fund for Josh?
35:02
SPEAKER_00: She doesn't answer.
35:03
SPEAKER_00: She turns to Josh and says, Baby, I love you.
35:06
SPEAKER_00: Chris says, No way, I'd pick the trust fund over Josh any day.
35:13
SPEAKER_00: And then we get another break.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: And in the confessional booth, Elise says she's disappointed in herself for not saying everything she wanted to say, but she didn't want to hurt Josh.
35:26
SPEAKER_00: But she also feels like Josh had Nat's side more than hers.
35:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, she walks up to Laura and says, I texted Josh during the break and says, You didn't defend me.
35:38
SPEAKER_00: And Josh replied, You made me feel tiny in front of everyone again.
35:44
SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you chose your trust fund over me.
35:47
SPEAKER_00: And Laura says, Well, I would I'd choose your trust fund over Josh.
35:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'd choose it over BeerCon.
35:54
SPEAKER_00: The way that Elise is texting Josh so fast with those nails, like, how?
36:03
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, after the break, it's time for Rick and Trisha.
36:06
SPEAKER_00: Oh Lord.
36:09
SPEAKER_00: So right away, Sean's like, who's the father?
36:12
SPEAKER_00: Trisha says, uh, it's a man.
36:14
SPEAKER_00: I met on a work trip two months after Rick left.
36:18
SPEAKER_00: We're not together now, but we stay in touch for the baby.
36:21
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Rick, are you dating?
36:23
SPEAKER_00: My guess would be yes.
36:25
SPEAKER_00: So Rick tells the story that after Trisha broke up with him, the next night he went to a bar and he saw a beautiful lady outside eating chicken.
36:37
SPEAKER_00: It looked good.
36:39
SPEAKER_00: Says, Can I get a taste of that?
36:41
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, What did you get a bite of?
36:43
SPEAKER_00: Ew.
36:44
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, That came later.
36:46
SPEAKER_00: Ew.
36:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh, so this was the night after they broke up.
36:51
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, How soon did you have sex with this other woman?
36:54
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, that was that night.
36:57
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, so the next day you were saying goodbye to Tricia at the airport, the day after you were having sex with this other woman.
37:05
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, Come on, if you love someone, you're not gonna sleep with someone else the next night.
37:10
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, we were on a break.
37:12
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, but didn't you say you wanted to work on things?
37:15
SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes, he did.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, so how long did you see that other woman?
37:20
SPEAKER_00: So Rick says, for five months.
37:21
SPEAKER_00: We just broke up a couple months ago.
37:24
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks, so were you talking to Trisha in that time?
37:27
SPEAKER_00: He says, Yes.
37:28
SPEAKER_00: But I was honest with her.
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Um, they took he and this other woman that he met, the chicken lady, um, they took a trip to Hong Kong and Trish says, That was supposed to be my birthday trip.
37:39
SPEAKER_00: And Rick says, Well, she was in Indonesia with the baby daddy.
37:44
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Who thinks Rick moves on really fast?
37:48
SPEAKER_00: Everyone raises their hands, even Rick.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: He says, I have a fear of being alone.
37:53
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn says, Then get married.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, I'm trying to, and I thought I found my wife in Trish.
38:01
SPEAKER_00: Anna says, But she lied to her.
38:03
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, I know I made a big mistake.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: Speaking of big mistakes, uh, Sean brings up the kill tarp.
38:11
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, the squirt tarp, the splash pad, whatever.
38:16
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Who here's heard of a splash pad?
38:20
SPEAKER_00: Pretty much everyone says no.
38:21
SPEAKER_00: Birkan says, I am vanilla, so I never heard of it.
38:25
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, Well, I'm not vanilla, I'm dark chocolate when it comes to that.
38:30
SPEAKER_00: Uh he he cannot stop highlighting this idea that he's some kind of sex god.
38:41
SPEAKER_00: What he is is addicted to sex, I think.
38:46
SPEAKER_00: Shot looks very uncomfortable.
38:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh, she's gonna have to go talk to her pastor after this.
38:53
SPEAKER_00: She says, So, is this something you travel with?
38:56
SPEAKER_00: Did you take it when you went to see your other friend?
38:59
SPEAKER_00: I think she means chicken lady.
39:01
SPEAKER_00: He hems and haws a bit, and that's pretty much telling the whole story.
39:05
SPEAKER_00: Everyone is grossed out.
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Finally, an appropriate reaction to something.
39:11
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, Well, we reuse sheets, don't we?
39:15
SPEAKER_00: Trish says, Yeah, he used it with his ex, the Colombian girl.
39:20
SPEAKER_00: Sean points out, so Rick went back to his ex after five days of not hearing from Trisha.
39:28
SPEAKER_00: Aviva says, Yeah, missing for five days is a little sketchy, but you shouldn't have gone as far as Columbia.
39:35
SPEAKER_00: Okay, again, I have to say, this story about the supposed ghosting is driving me crazy, and nobody is correcting this narrative that he set up.
39:50
SPEAKER_00: She just had sort of short one-word answers during these five days, and this man is so insecure he can't stand not hearing from her like every hour on the hour, or within seconds of him texting her or calling her.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: And so, because she's giving short answers and she's not as available to stroke his ego, he considers it ghosting.
40:17
SPEAKER_00: Meanwhile, she explained she had family things to deal with.
40:20
SPEAKER_00: Her brother had been in an accident, there was moped problems, it was a whole big thing.
40:25
SPEAKER_00: And yeah, we didn't get all the details, but you know what?
40:27
SPEAKER_00: She wasn't cheating.
40:29
SPEAKER_00: I am like 100% sure she wasn't, because she doesn't seem like a liar to me at all.
40:36
SPEAKER_00: But nobody is correcting this.
40:39
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, Rick says, I made a lot of mistakes with Trish, but I didn't go to Columbia at that time, I just booked it for a future date.
40:47
SPEAKER_00: Laura says, so you went on this trip on a future date while you were back talking with Trisha.
40:53
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, we were back to talking, yeah.
40:57
SPEAKER_00: Elisa, so you wait, you still went on the trip.
41:01
SPEAKER_00: Trish says, yes, exactly.
41:02
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, I was confused.
41:06
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
41:08
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, we hadn't met in person yet.
41:11
SPEAKER_00: We hadn't consummated our relationship with Barv.
41:19
SPEAKER_00: No, but she definitely believed that you were exclusive.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: So stop with this bullshit about how we hadn't met in person yet.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: Trish says, You were lying on the bed with me when you were accepting calls from your ex and texting her about the great times you had with her.
41:40
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, I didn't want her to keep calling.
41:43
SPEAKER_00: That is not how you get someone to stop calling you.
41:45
SPEAKER_00: You block them, but we know he can't he can't block his ex.
41:50
SPEAKER_00: Sean asks, have you had any further conversations with Trish about getting back together?
41:54
SPEAKER_00: He says, Yes.
41:56
SPEAKER_00: We've talked about future plans.
42:01
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, but now we have a baby involved.
42:05
SPEAKER_00: Lisa says, Are you going to be dedicated to her and the baby?
42:08
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, I'm waiting on Trish if she'll allow me to see her again.
42:13
SPEAKER_00: Trish says, honestly, I don't know if I want him back in my life.
42:16
SPEAKER_00: I'm afraid.
42:17
SPEAKER_00: 50% want him, 50% don't want him.
42:21
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, if I were Trish, I would never accept him back.
42:24
SPEAKER_00: He'd be blocked.
42:25
SPEAKER_00: End of story.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: Emma pipes up, I would take him back.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: Of course she would.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: The consummate pick me girl.
42:36
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, he's acknowledged all of his mistakes and he really does love Trish.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
42:43
SPEAKER_00: Sure.
42:44
SPEAKER_00: Annalyn says, Woman to woman, I wouldn't take him back.
42:49
SPEAKER_00: She says, Some people have an addiction.
42:52
SPEAKER_00: I don't think he would stop.
42:54
SPEAKER_00: He is weak in the flesh.
42:56
SPEAKER_00: He has an itchiness that he needs to scratch.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: Trisha is nodding a lot as Anilyn is talking.
43:05
SPEAKER_00: And I really hope she takes this all to heart.
43:08
SPEAKER_00: What Annalyn is saying.
43:10
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Who thinks there's a future with these two?
43:13
SPEAKER_00: Emma and Lisa, these idiots, both raise their hands.
43:18
SPEAKER_00: Sean says, Well, what a roller coaster this has been for you guys.
43:22
SPEAKER_00: Best of luck to you and good luck with your pregnancy.
43:25
SPEAKER_00: And that's the end of the tell all.
43:27
SPEAKER_00: And of course, we've got like nine minutes of backstage footage.
43:34
SPEAKER_00: Forrest and Rick are still weirdly bonding.
43:37
SPEAKER_00: Emma goes into Elisa's little confessional pod and says, Can I talk to you?
43:44
SPEAKER_00: I've been like upset.
43:45
SPEAKER_00: Elisa, why?
43:47
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, I know we've been becoming friends recently, but I'm like upset about the Rob stuff.
43:53
SPEAKER_00: Elisa's like, okay.
43:55
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, I found out shortly after I told you that you tried hooking up with him.
44:00
SPEAKER_00: Elise looks genuinely caught off guard, but she's who am I to say if she is or not?
44:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this whole thing feels very staged, but Elise does seem seriously triggered by it.
44:12
SPEAKER_00: She says, That's not true.
44:14
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, he showed me multiple screenshots.
44:17
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, Okay, then call him, get a screenshot.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, I can, but I'd rather talk to you about it.
44:24
SPEAKER_00: That's because you're lying.
44:25
SPEAKER_00: I thought we were building a friendship and it bothered me.
44:29
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, but I wasn't trying to hook up with him.
44:32
SPEAKER_00: So I don't know why he's telling you that.
44:34
SPEAKER_00: I saw him at a party and we talked, and that was that.
44:37
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, He said you were trying to Uber him into your hotel.
44:41
SPEAKER_00: Elisa says, That's not true.
44:43
SPEAKER_00: We had a connection a year and a half ago at Mexico Baying House, aka Hunt for Love.
44:49
SPEAKER_00: And that was it.
44:52
SPEAKER_00: And the fake waterworks begin.
44:54
SPEAKER_00: And Emma's like, this is so annoying.
44:57
SPEAKER_00: Elisa, so don't talk about it anymore.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: Emma's like, it's just so annoying.
45:02
SPEAKER_00: This is such a hard situation because I don't know who I can like trust.
45:09
SPEAKER_00: I know we were just hooking up, but I developed feelings for him and I met you and I cared about our friendship.
45:16
SPEAKER_00: We get a side confessional with Elise who says the vibe I'm getting from Emma right now is so fake.
45:21
SPEAKER_00: I don't care about Rob.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: Laura and Aviva are backstage eating, and Forrest is there and they're like, What is going on?
45:28
SPEAKER_00: And Forrest just making up step and says, uh, I think Josh slept with Emma.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: Back to Elise and Emma.
45:40
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, I'm sorry you're here, but that's inaccurate information from a known liar.
45:45
SPEAKER_00: I don't want him.
45:46
SPEAKER_00: I have a boyfriend.
45:47
SPEAKER_00: The last thing I want is a short man.
45:50
SPEAKER_00: I didn't tell you we talked at the party because I know you'd be upset about it.
45:53
SPEAKER_00: And Emma says, I understand that, but I don't know what point you're trying to make.
45:57
SPEAKER_00: What?
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, it's very weird.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: You're trying to play this sad cry girl, like poor me, I'm a victim, and pointing a finger at me when I didn't do anything wrong.
46:08
SPEAKER_00: And Elisa's shouting now, and honestly, I would be too.
46:14
SPEAKER_00: Because don't come at me with these lies.
46:18
SPEAKER_00: She says, I'm not taking the blame for something I didn't do.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: Emma's like, don't raise your voice at me.
46:23
SPEAKER_00: Okay, so Emma is still trying to put this poor me victim narrative forward.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: I don't know, it's not working on me.
46:34
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, Don't get mad and attack me.
46:37
SPEAKER_00: Emma says, I didn't attack you.
46:39
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, This guy's not your boyfriend, and he's able to do whatever he wants.
46:45
SPEAKER_00: So I mean, Emma baited her into this argument because she knows Elise would go crazy, or possibly production set it up, so they would help her set up the sad girl narrative.
46:58
SPEAKER_00: Avina, Aviva finally comes over, running over to Emma to check on her.
47:03
SPEAKER_00: Forrest peeks in to say goodbye.
47:06
SPEAKER_00: He's like a kid whose mom says, make sure you say goodbye to everybody and say thank you to everybody and thank the host and thank your friend's mom before you leave the birthday party.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: It's me.
47:17
SPEAKER_00: I'm that mom.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: Laura walks in full teacher mode.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: I know everyone in this room can sometimes say things we don't mean.
47:29
SPEAKER_00: Anyway, Laura, stop.
47:31
SPEAKER_00: Oh, so moving on, we get a confessional from Laura who says, I learned things about Birkan during the tell-all that has really made me question things about him.
47:41
SPEAKER_00: And the only reason I think we're seeing this confessional is because they're setting us up to see them again in a future season.
47:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's whether it's like 90 day or another B90, I don't know.
47:55
SPEAKER_00: I wish we didn't have to see them again, because you know, what I forgot, even though I've been enjoying Birkan's presence in this tell all, we forgot about I forgot about the fact that he thinks he has a pass to use the N-word.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: So Emma drags Elise to the bathroom and the doors closed, but we hear, because they did not turn their mics off, Elise is going, fuck Zed.
48:24
SPEAKER_00: Fuck Rob.
48:25
SPEAKER_00: You deserve better than all of them.
48:27
SPEAKER_00: And I'm sorry.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: And Emma says, Well, accept your apology.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: What are you what is Elise apologizing for?
48:35
SPEAKER_00: I guess she's a fall, she's apologizing for being mad.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: Elise says, She got the wrath of Elise, and Rob was the one who deserved it.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: Okay, fair.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: Then we cut to Rick.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: The producer is asking Rick, is there anyone else in your life right now?
48:50
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, no.
48:52
SPEAKER_00: Producer says, promise.
48:54
SPEAKER_00: And Rick laughs.
48:55
SPEAKER_00: His stupid little boy laugh.
48:59
SPEAKER_00: He says, Why you gotta look at me that way?
49:01
SPEAKER_00: Uh, because you're a liar and a fuckboy.
49:04
SPEAKER_00: That is why.
49:07
SPEAKER_00: Rick says, Trisha's been encouraging me to see other people and not wait on her.
49:11
SPEAKER_00: He says, I don't know how long I can wait.
49:14
SPEAKER_00: She's really special to me, but life is lonely.
49:19
SPEAKER_00: Seek help.
49:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh, we get a little shot of Aviva saying Stig's double standards are not okay, but I still have feelings for him.
49:31
SPEAKER_00: I can't deny that, but I'm not in the mood to date right now.
49:36
SPEAKER_00: We see the producer asking Josh how he thinks things went today.
49:40
SPEAKER_00: Josh says it feels like a spit in the face when you do contribute to something, and then you're made to feel like you haven't.
49:48
SPEAKER_00: We haven't all had life served to us on a platter.
49:51
SPEAKER_00: We cut to Daniel, and he says, In the next few months, Lisa will chat me up.
49:58
SPEAKER_00: He says, I will see her in Nigeria.
50:01
SPEAKER_00: After all, we are husband and wife.
50:04
SPEAKER_00: And then we see Lisa saying, I have a curse to break.
50:07
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to have this curse broken by a church.
50:10
SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be blessed and cleansed and prayed over.
50:14
SPEAKER_00: It's a new day and a new me.
50:17
SPEAKER_00: So now instead of book corner, I want to talk a little bit about what I wish I would have seen on the tell all.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: I wanted more Annalyn.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: I wanted more Annalyn and Jovon.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: I feel like their assignment was the shortest.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: I wanted to dig in a little bit more on them.
50:40
SPEAKER_00: Hell, I want to hear about the bar hopping.
50:42
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear about the traveling.
50:43
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear about the cats and the mom and the dog.
50:46
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear about their life.
50:50
SPEAKER_00: And maybe that's boring and there's not as much drama, but you know, she's the clear favorite for me on this show.
51:01
SPEAKER_00: I wish that Sean would have asked Stig if he'd been talking to his ex in Houston.
51:11
SPEAKER_00: I wish we would have found out if Lisa's divorce from her last wife has been finalized.
51:23
SPEAKER_00: I wish we would have found out if Lisa has paid all that money back to Juna.
51:31
SPEAKER_00: I would have liked to have seen Juna on camera.
51:37
SPEAKER_00: I kind of wanted to see Laura's racist parents.
51:41
SPEAKER_00: Do you remember her parents who drove her to the airport when she left for Turkey?
51:46
SPEAKER_00: And her mom was saying, I can't believe you're gonna go date a Muslim.
51:51
SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
51:52
SPEAKER_00: I want to hear what that lady has to say for herself.
51:57
SPEAKER_00: And more than the Dexter Kill Tarp slash splash pad, I wanted Sean to ask Rick about this because I think this is a far worse offense than the splash pad.
52:16
SPEAKER_00: I want somebody to call Rick out for just the way he talked to Trish and yelled at Trish and allowed himself to get triggered by simple, innocuous things.
52:37
SPEAKER_00: When she asked him to buy her a swimsuit, and he got angry and said he wasn't a sugar daddy and that she was bougie and continued to yell at her at the hotel room.
52:50
SPEAKER_00: I wanted Sean to ask about that moment that he got really upset because she pointed out a restaurant or someplace that she really liked that she happened to have gone to with her ex, and he is so insecure he can't handle it.
53:08
SPEAKER_00: And he treats her like shit when he gets upset.
53:13
SPEAKER_00: That's what I want Sean to ask about.
53:17
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the kill tarp, the Dexter Kill Tarp, the splash pad is disgusting.
53:22
SPEAKER_00: Especially disgusting that it's used.
53:24
SPEAKER_00: But more than that, Rick is upsetting because he cheats, because he projects, because he accuses her of lying, because his narrative of events is skewed, and because he treats her like crap.
53:48
SPEAKER_00: That's the show.
53:50
SPEAKER_00: If you enjoyed it, please click five stars on your preferred platform, share the links, tell your friends, and I will see you next time.
54:03
SPEAKER_00: Bye.