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Sister Wives S6 E15 - While the Wives are Away... - Part 2 · My Sister Wives Podcast

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  What does the nanny do? OK, so we're done.
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  Goodbye. You.
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  Shut it off. Do not twist my words.
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  Do not make me a victim, sweetie.
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  Just look at the mountain. That's what you.
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  Saw that day just the knife in
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  and the sacrifices that I made
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  Welcome back to My Sister Wives Podcast Part 2 of Season 6,
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  episode 15, While the Wives are away.
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  Ellipsis In the first part of this episode, we had the sister
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  wives taking a road trip to San Francisco to do some dress
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  shopping for their upcoming non recommitment ceremony.
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  Kody is left at home alone with his children to babysit them on
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  his own. Well, of course, with the help
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  of Aspen, the most responsible
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  wives have watched Robyn try on some dresses at a store where
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  no one could fit into the outfits except for Robyn.
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  And you let us know that magenta
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  everyone of every skin tone type
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  Thinking about it, I wasn't making a joke there.
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  It looks wonderful on everybody.
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  The more I thought about it after saying it, it really is
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  one of those colors that compliments people.
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  It a lot of people this is it. I was like, honestly, I've had a
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  just this bright pink fuchsia color.
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  And I'm like, God, that would look good on me.
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  But I don't want to pull the trigger on anything too
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  expensive because what if it shows up and it doesn't look
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  good on me? It doesn't fit my body shape, my
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  weird shape. Oh God.
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  Well, as a northerner, I get super, super pasty, don't you
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  know? And I get a little see through
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  myself in the winter. So I do like a fuchsia shirt
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  when it comes to be February, March, and we're still dragging
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  on through the winter months here in the Northern hemisphere.
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  It's a nice contrast to the blue
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  your veins that you can see it.
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  Really. Is really truly.
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  Well, to kick off the second part of the episode, we're going
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  The neighbors are Deidre and Bill, who we have not met yet.
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  We did. She was one of the neighbors
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  that actually showed up to the graduation party.
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  Oh gosh, I can't believe my amnesia is happening right now.
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  That makes no sense.
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  Why don't I remember Deidre? She's not the toothless Nelly
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  that lives down the block at the
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  No, no, no. Deirdre has a pool and she lives
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  by the cul-de-sac. We're we're working our way up
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  here. And as far as I could tell, she
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  seemed to have most of her teeth.
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  So no jokes about kicking out her teeth in this episode.
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  She's not going to kick out the children's teeth.
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  No, no, no, not Deirdre. That joke was so poorly executed
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  by me. I love that it's burned into our
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  minds. Oh my gosh.
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  Sure is. Kody volunteers that they are
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  those neighbors who invite themselves over to use the pool.
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  The Browns, because obviously they have all these kids.
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  He kind of made it sound like Deidre and Bill were the only
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  neighbors that have a pool at this point that you know, it is
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  Vegas and you would think there would be other pools in the
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  neighborhood, but maybe not. But leave it up to Kody to say
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  it in a weird way. He goes.
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  They're the only neighbors that have built a pool in the
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  neighborhood. Built the pool.
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  Don't you usually say they put
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  God, it's things like that where
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  unintelligent. Let.
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  Me take this opportunity to correct you honey in the
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  manosphere we build pools is that what he said yes we don't
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  Lesson #47 of the handbook. You build a pool, you don't put
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  in a pool. He says things that sound so
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  profound and thoughtful, and those are the moments where I
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  think he's been saving that to sound intelligent, where he'll
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  They have a playbook in their head of things that they can say
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  don't sound right. Him and Robyn are a lot alike in
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  parallels as I'm going to default to narcissist.
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  I don't really know what else they have in common, but there
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  they're ready for it. There was something that
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  happened just in a recent episode where I was referring to
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  that similar. They do have these patterns that
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  patterns that would be that of a narcissist, right?
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  These things that they do that are similar because they
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  probably have the same DSM 5 diagnosis.
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  Oh cool, we were going to put that.
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  Don't. Nope.
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  Allegedly. Allegedly, she is not a licensed
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  padded room to tell us about Kody and Robyn's diagnosis.
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  Oh my God, let. Me out of here.
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  I promise I won't pretend to be all the sister wives in one body
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  Until she agrees to be the hype woman I need, you keep her in
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  that padded room. Oh boy.
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  Yes, well, they do show all the kids going down the street to
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  get to Deidre and Bill's. And it was so weird to me
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  because the music they were playing was like, they just use
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  this like cheesy, family hokey, almost circusy vibe music and
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  it's just strange. I'm like why can't we just have
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  a normal song puddle monkey? It is the editor in you where
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  you recognize those things. And it cracks me up because I
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  black out the music. I I just black it out, you know,
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  Place has a pool that was built.
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  It was not put in, and when we
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  is in the hot tub with both Deidre and Bill and some of the
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  older kids, and Mckelty approaches and asks if anyone
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  has asked about us to Kody, which ushers in a voice over
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  from him where he says it's a cult.
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  Excuse me? Cultural reference to our
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  courting procedures. When a young man wants to court
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  a young lady, he has to ask the church leader and the father of
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  that girl. Now I'm going to re emphasize
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  some of these things. A young man wants to court a
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  young lady, he has to ask the church leader and the father of
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  that girl. So a lady and a girl like fuck
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  all that. And then the church leader and
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  the father, which totally Harkins into all the cult shit
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  we've talked about before with
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  men. Why there's even probably the
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  lost boys in this culture because there's, you know,
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  multiple women assigned to one
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  And so there's all of these men they don't have a need for, so
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  they drop them off in a ditch in
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  And he's just using this language that only solidifies
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  our conspiracies and or stories we've heard from other people
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  such as Colleen Snow and others that have shared their stories
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  and just this language of lady
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  I like to use it in a ironic or tongue in cheek way on our
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  show, but in the real world it's like stop referring to women
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  as ladies and girls. It's just weird.
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  I wonder if they ask the girl first either because he says a
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  young man wanting to court a girl must ask the church and
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  father first before even asking the girl, right Is what I'm
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  gathering by that. So do you even have a connection
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  with said girl or are you admiring from afar?
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  Are you a pervert in your car spying on said girl with Swiss
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  cheese over your penis? Nobody knows.
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  No. No, I don't know what's
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  happening. Right.
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  And so let's say the church leader, AKA cult leader, AKA
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  Warren Jeff's equivalent, says
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  me. And then the father says, sure,
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  I don't even remember my little girl lady daughter's name.
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  Then does that just mean, yeah, like, now you're assigned?
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  And as long as he plays the game
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  some sort of huge turbulence, then this is just destiny for
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  the young woman. I mean, maybe.
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  We've heard a little of Christine's story and how she
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  pursued Kody and asked her dad
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  we've heard Janelle's, and I think those are the Abby normal
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  stories. I think in all reality what
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  usually happens in the polygamist cults is that a young
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  man probably notices a girl and asks permission, or that young
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  man is high enough up in the church that he is allowed to
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  even court a girl to begin with.
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  I would also be curious to know about Kody's origins with Meri
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  to the cult, but there was this kind of rock star thing with
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  Kody where he was, you know, young and blonde.
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  He is like the Aryan look and he wasn't probably related to most
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  of them because they were new. And so I wonder if he kind of
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  had his pick of the litter type thing or how that worked.
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  I don't really know the details. It sounds like he did, and I
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  think she probably was shy and easily manipulated and pretty.
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  with the Aryan look. She was blonde and looked like
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  Yeah, it's really when you get down to the reasoning behind the
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  And it's like the Quiver Full movement.
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  I don't know if you've heard of the Quiver Full movement.
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  If you haven't, look it up. I get those vibes so bad when I
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  look at this family and you look at Christine, blonde hair,
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  blue eyed Janelle, blonde hair, blue eyed.
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  Robyn is the only one that doesn't look like the other
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  three wives. When you think of that and it
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  creeps me out, it really does get creepy.
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  And she brings about that special Herman Munster vibe that
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  She sure does. Back at the hot tub, Kody tells
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  the children that they're too young anyway and someone pipes
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  And he goes, I'd prefer my girls be 19.
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  What the fuck does this even mean?
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  19? It's like if they were 23 he'd
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  Isn't it just kind of like a stock response thing?
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  Yeah, he says he wants them to have an education first.
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  So at 19, they'll have an education over 18.
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  OK. Well he just wants them to go to
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  So maybe they could go to one year of school and then be
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  summoned back to the cult. Then after drop out and it'd be
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  fine because they had like a year under their belt.
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  Totally, Yeah, he says that it was a bit uncomfortable talking
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  about all of this in front of Deidre and Bill, even if they
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  find it fascinating. He just, you know, doesn't
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  really want to be talking about this in front one of the
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  neighbors. Because he knows they're
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  backwards and doesn't want it brought up in front of them.
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  If you're embarrassed about bringing it up in front of them,
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  that you think these people are beneath you and that they
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  shouldn't know about your customs because they're not part
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  So because that's the feeling I
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  get that they don't allow people
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  aren't a part of their culture, right?
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  You cannot join our wedding ceremony because you're not
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  going to be in the celestial Kingdom like we are.
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  You can't see this wedding ceremony.
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  Is it that you don't want to share this with them because you
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  think that they're beneath you?
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  Or is it because you're embarrassed by it because you
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  know it's wrong? Because usually when you're
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  embarrassed about something, it's because you deep down know
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  that there's a reason to be embarrassed because it's
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  inherently wrong or there's something there that doesn't
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  feel right. Yeah, in these kind of
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  situations for sure. Yeah.
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  Deidre and Bill have A2 camera interview at this point, a
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  moment while they're in the hot tub.
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  Bill has that kind of cheesy old man white hair billowing in the
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  wind. Bill says that the Browns are
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  not like stereotypes people may have about polygamous families.
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  And Deidre says the kids are
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  well behaved. They have good manners, they
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  enjoy having the family as neighbors and friends.
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  But Bill and Deidre to me kind
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  older couple at like retirement community.
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  If they weren't hanging out with
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  were swingers. I was just going to say swingers
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  perhaps? Do they have pineapples on their
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  front doorstep? That was totally the vibe I was
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  getting. Now, Deidre and Bill, if you're
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  listening, no tea, no shade. I've been known to taste a
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  little bit of pineapple. I don't know.
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  I mean, it's not like I'm retiring to nudist colony in
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  Florida and having sex with strangers while my dentures are
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  on the night stand. That's not happening for me.
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  If it was Palm Springs, maybe.
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  not on the coast. But Bill, for sure.
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  I don't know about Deidre, but
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  like, yeah, I've got a Corvette in the garage.
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  But it's nice that Deidre points
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  behaved. We get along with them, We don't
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  see any issues. It's just because they don't
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  talk about anything in front of them and they don't know the
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  truth about things. So of course they get along.
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  They won't even talk about there
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  of them because it's a bizarre
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  So what do you really know about
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  Probably not much. And other than being jealous of
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  Bill's coaster that he sets his teeth on while he's hooking up
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  with strangers, I was also jealous of their backyard
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  because they do have a great pool and a hot tub built in.
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  And I was like, that's the kind of backyard I want.
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  So I'm just noting once again for my future husband.
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  Take me parasailing and give me an in ground pool with a hot
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  tub and a nice place to put my
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  Thank you. We get whiplash yet again.
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  They take us back to San Francisco and we're going to go
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  to a new store with the wives and this store is called Go
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  Figure. This is a plus size store.
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  They have bigger sizes here inclusive shop but not really
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  because Robyn gets told that they don't have Robyn size.
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  Poor Robyn. The wives shared that they all
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  provided options previous to their travels based on the
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  website before going, so they told the store owner.
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  These are some things we're interested in from your website
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  and apparently this store owner who is beautiful, well spoken
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  and seems very likable and very nice.
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  That was all doused in sarcasm
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  show. She's been, you know, working
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  tirelessly, diligently to pull
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  She has racks for each of them
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  the store. But before they try on anything,
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  the store owner let's Robyn know, you know, we don't have
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  anything for you here. Sorry.
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  Robyn goes, oh, OK. And she says because basically I
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  cater to plus size, the larger
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  larger woman. No, not the larger woman.
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  And Robyn tells us that it doesn't bother her and she can
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  actually understand some of her attitude behind it.
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  The woman did have some attitude.
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  She did have attitude. It was hard for me to gauge, are
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  you like this all the time? Are you just like this because
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  there's a camera crew? I I don't really know.
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  I didn't like it because it was the opposite of what you would
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  normally think. In America there are people that
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  are fat phobic and there is a lot of people that have skinny
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  privilege, pretty privilege. And I feel like they flipped the
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  script here when they went into the store where they only had
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  Robyn's size. The shop owner was so sweet and
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  oh Robyn will try on all the clothes for you guys don't worry
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  about it. And then they get to the store
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  that's all inclusive and they paint the store owner to look
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  like a bitch to Robyn because oh
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  we don't have your size in here.
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  I cater to the plus size women. How dare you even think I would
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  have your size. I don't like it.
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  I don't know who the production team hat on that was still
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  kissing Robyn's ass at this point and Kody's ass, but they
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  And that's why I was so heated during the first part of the
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  episode when, oh, Robyn's just going to try on all these
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  dresses and they're acting like it's no big deal.
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  And we didn't go to this store knowing they wouldn't have plus
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  sizes. But now wait, Robyn's the victim
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  size and now they're going to make a bigger deal about it.
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  And she had an attitude. Whoever is kissing Robyn's ass
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  what the fuck is this? What the fuck is this?
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  We all know that in America there was a huge problem with
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  fat phobia and whatnot, so this is weird to me.
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  My assumption was that the store owner wouldn't speak to someone
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  like that if they weren't being filmed, so that felt odd.
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  And then just from the storytelling lens, it gave Robyn
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  I even understood her attitude towards me, like as if she's so
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  benevolent. She's so kind and understanding.
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  be a fat person and I'm not, and
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  talk to me like that. Why is any of this happening?
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  It was uncomfortable to watch.
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  I can't wait to get further on
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  people in Robyn and Kody's pockets because I am seeing it
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  so much and I haven't seen anything past this.
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  And there are moments like this where I'm so confused because
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  they're completely flipping a script.
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  It's just not the norm. It's not the norm.
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  And so for it to be caught on camera, candidly, I don't buy
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  it. Yeah, I don't buy it.
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  Agreed. So the wives are trying on
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  different outfits and they're all a swing and a miss.
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  I don't really even know. Do you want to describe any of
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  the outfits in detail? Really, They were just all
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  unflattering. They have a merry try on what
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  looks like a long sleeve top with just a billowy skirt thing
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  attached. It's like a tunic.
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  It's not even a dress and Christine tells her, well you
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  could wear leggings under that
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  So it looks like an everyday outfit.
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  A longer top that you could wear
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  where it's covering your butt.
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  wear leggings. And Meri makes it known to
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  Christine that she would never
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  AKA Christine wears leggings as pants and Meri doesn't like it
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  or agree with it. So that was the one thing that I
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  noted was Meri kind of took a dig at Christine for wearing
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  leggings as pants and she thought this top made her look
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  pregnant. When Meri makes this jab at
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  Christine for wearing all this
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  leggings, the irony was so rich because in the future Meri is
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  like a Lula Roe person, like high up on the thing.
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  So in the future we see Meri wearing some pants that other
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  people might not consider some
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  overpriced fucking leggings to
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  So it's just for anyone who's seen the show and knows in the
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  future, it's bitterly ironic that she is picking on Christine
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  for this. That's so fun.
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  You're going to be Hawking leggings for years.
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  It's insane. Moldy leggings problems?
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  Yes, if you haven't seen that documentary.
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  Right, right. That was so good during the
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  COVID peak COVID, I remember everyone was talking about that.
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  Yes. Janelle tells us that it won't
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  be much longer before she can shop in a normal store, and
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  there's a freedom that that will
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  excited to find something that fits at any department store.
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  She almost can't imagine it because it's been years.
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  So it's kind of nice that we have a tie in here to the 5K and
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  then the other episodes we've had where we talked about her
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  weight loss. Yeah.
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  It would be nice to know that you could go to stores and find
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  sizes that fit you. It's a little weird that they're
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  in a plus size store talking about it, but it was, I don't
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  know, I guess it's something for
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  I keep trying to think, OK, Kimberly, don't be so hateful
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  about this. It's a sign of the times and we
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  are in the past. So yes, stores weren't weren't
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  all inclusive. They still are not all
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  inclusive, but especially when
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  clap for Janelle that that's a
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  But then there's a part of me that thinks that it's so sad
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  that you have to think at this
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  in a quote, UN quote normal clothing store because they have
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  an extra large, but nothing above that.
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  And all of this stuff around weight that keeps coming back
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  for Janelle here. I struggle so much with it.
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  You know, I do like that they tried to tie it back to the 5K
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  in the beginning, but I don't think that was intentional.
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  Knowing this production company,
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  good quote and it happened to fit in with the beginning.
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  I don't think it was on purpose.
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  We live in a world where everything is about profit and
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  Or in a situation where a Robyn is trying on clothes for you
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  because they don't have your size.
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  And then you have to order it online later, or the store clerk
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  Christine's quote earlier. And I was thinking about it
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  later on here where she says she's not excited to go store to
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  hindsight thing that they did go store to store and they didn't
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  It's not fun for me because I'm used to them not having my size
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  and it sucks. But to wrap up this bit about
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  them trying on clothes where thank God we're not going to go
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  into the details on the clothes, except for that one top
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  that Meri was wearing that was atrocious.
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  She called it atrocious. Everyone thinks it's atrocious
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  It wasn't a dressy, it wasn't something you would wear to a
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  ceremony. It was a top.
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  Oh let's just try this on for a day-to-day wear.
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  Why was she even trying that on? It wasn't fancy, it looked like
• 26:05
  an average everyday top. Some of the clothes did look
• 26:08
  like what she would sell in the future at Lula Bro.
• 26:11
  Yes, yes, for real. One of the takeaways that I have
• 26:19
  shopping at quote UN quote normal stores, is that of the
• 26:23
  people that tried things on, Janelle look the fucking best.
• 26:29
  They were not terribly I'll fitting.
• 26:31
  Were they my favorite pieces? No, but she looked the best of
• 26:38
  Janelle those flowers, give her those coins, because she looked
• 26:41
  fucking good. She did.
• 26:42
  She looked really good and I don't want to pick on anyone for
• 26:50
  queen bee of this and the what everyone would want to look like
• 26:58
  She's not everything in the cup of tea.
• 27:01
  You know she looks average so. She looks like she's half foot,
• 27:09
  so I'm not quite sure what that means.
• 27:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 27:12
  We get more whiplash, honey, get out that neck brace.
• 27:16
  We're going back to Vegas. I know you've got the foot boot.
• 27:24
  arrives at one of the homes and it is OK.
• 27:26
  This scene was funny because he's going inside to the house.
• 27:30
  I, I couldn't tell which wife's house it was, but he says that
• 27:33
  the kids are so loud that he could hear them quote UN quote
• 27:37
  clear outside. And I'm like, I have heard clear
• 27:40
  outside before for sure, probably from a parent being
• 27:43
  like, I can hear you clear outside like Oh my God.
• 27:47
  And they respond by yelling yay,
• 27:50
  So they're all yelling at his ushering of them to be quiet and
• 27:53
  he literally puts his finger over his mouth and is like shit.
• 27:59
  I was so happy. I was so.
• 28:01
  Happy. It brought me so much joy, even
• 28:03
  though if it was happening to me
• 28:06
  I need a Xanax. I need to calm down.
• 28:10
  He's like, SH, we're in Christine's library.
• 28:14
  Shut the fuck up, shut the fuck up.
• 28:16
  Shut the fuck up. Oh God.
• 28:20
  Oh God. And then we see the kids and
• 28:23
  Kody eating dinner, blah blah blah.
• 28:26
  After dinner's completed, he decides he's going to make a
• 28:28
  call to the wives, Meri, Janelle, Christine and Robyn,
• 28:32
  who are grabbing some food themselves in a restaurant that
• 28:36
  is apparently very cramped and
• 28:39
  description. Now, as a layperson who has been
• 28:43
  to restaurants and been places, I'm not so sure that I would
• 28:46
  call it cramped and loud. It did just seem like a normal
• 28:50
  restaurant. But these are people, you know,
• 28:52
  visiting San Francisco who are
• 28:57
  to Utah across the Oregon Trail or whatever, you know, and.
• 29:00
  They made it through with their dysentery and snake bites.
• 29:04
  They're here. Robyn's still hanging on,
• 29:07
  barely, barely, barely. So they're in a normal
• 29:10
  restaurant, but of course they're all sitting around a
• 29:12
  table. And this is where we get a
• 29:14
  notorious scene of Kody calling.
• 29:17
  And he calls Christine, and she tells us it's awkward talking to
• 29:26
  If he calls and we're together, you usually walk away and, you
• 29:33
  And as she's explaining this, we see footage of them sitting
• 29:37
  around this table, and Christine's on the phone talking
• 29:43
  Meri's doing whatever. She's kind of like looking
• 29:45
  around. And Robyn looks pissed off.
• 29:50
  Girl Robyn is pissed. That jaw is set.
• 29:56
  It is set honey. I'm just every time I say that,
• 30:01
  I'm just getting the visual and the audio of the like, yeah, you
• 30:08
  Sets forward. It's Johnny Bravo.
• 30:10
  Sets in. It's like a stick shift of a car
• 30:20
  Now, the conversation on the phone does start a bit humorous
• 30:24
  because Kody tells Christine that things are going great and
• 30:27
  yada, yada, yada. But then last night, you know,
• 30:35
  banging and everything while I was in the shower.
• 30:38
  And I'm like, OK, so hold on, hold on, hold on.
• 30:41
  Once again, you are these children's father, right?
• 30:43
  So please tell me you've been in an environment where you've
• 30:47
  heard your kids before. You know, it's not like this is
• 30:50
  your first night taking a shower in your own home.
• 30:53
  Is it Mylanta? Maybe it's because when he's
• 30:57
  around of wives do have to be so on top of the kids that they,
• 31:03
  you know, like I, I don't like, didn't this seem weird to you?
• 31:08
  He's probably never been in the shower and watching them at the
• 31:12
  same time. And every mother has had to do
• 31:28
  Oh, it's been a breeze. It's never a breeze.
• 31:33
  Whenever anyone says it's been a breeze, I instantly know that
• 31:37
  shit hit the fan and it was not a breeze.
• 31:41
  And yeah, he probably was in the shower and he heard shit hitting
• 31:52
  quick. And he didn't know what to do
• 31:55
  because he was trying to have some alone time in the shower.
• 32:02
  like, not worth taking a shower. It's not worth taking a shower
• 32:10
  It that's with two kids. And so when, Kody, this happens
• 32:14
  every parent, this happens when you're not even a parent.
• 32:16
  I have been at people's homes and been like, what the fuck is
• 32:18
  that sound? And it's just their kids being
• 32:20
  crazy while you're in the shower.
• 32:22
  Listen, it is what it is. Someone's going to lose an eye.
• 32:24
  And so Kody's in the shower and he's got Hurricane Brown, you
• 32:28
  know, Category 4, Category 5, whatever.
• 32:30
  Hurricane Brown's out there. And he's going.
• 32:32
  I'm just trying to pay attention
• 32:34
  this little brown eye, you know, he's just trying to have a
• 32:37
  moment in the shower. He's not used to this.
• 32:39
  And This is why I'm going Does
• 32:42
  around, the kids are so managed by the mothers that he's not
• 32:46
  even aware that this happens? Because what parent hasn't heard
• 32:50
  their kids being crazy while they're in the shower?
• 32:53
  I'm just picturing him pretending to be in a commercial
• 32:56
  in his shower mirror. It's easy breezy beautiful.
• 32:59
  CoverGirl Kody. CoverGirl Breezy, breezy.
• 33:04
  And like hurricane Hurricane Brown is happening down below
• 33:08
  and he just has no clue and the roof is about to be ripped off
• 33:12
  the house and it's like Oh my God, Kody, get to the basement
• 33:16
  quick. Oh God.
• 33:19
  He's like, I'm exfoliating, I'm exfoliating.
• 33:22
  Oh God. Too busy looking himself in the
• 33:25
  eye, in the mirror. The eye of the storm is really
• 33:28
  building at him and truly is in the middle.
• 33:33
  His tendrils blowing in the shower.
• 33:36
  Oh, can't. The whole 9 is.
• 33:38
  This a blow dryer or my children
• 33:41
  I don't know. What a mess.
• 33:43
  Fucking. Kody, Oh my God.
• 33:45
  And we get a precious Pearl from
• 33:48
  says. You know, Kody's really an
• 33:50
  optimistic person, and so when
• 33:54
  on, it leaks out of him with the
• 33:59
  out positive and then eventually
• 34:03
  out. This is kind of a universal
• 34:06
  thing, though. I mean, she's teeing it up as if
• 34:09
  it's such a charming trait of Kody.
• 34:11
  Well, no, I mean, there are times where let's say you are
• 34:14
  watching someone else's children.
• 34:15
  So if you're actually babysitting, you're not their
• 34:17
  father. You're just babysitting.
• 34:19
  Parents arrive and you're like, everything was great.
• 34:21
  And then as you're catching up, you're like, oh, well, then
• 34:23
  there was this thing. And then, well, there was this
• 34:25
  thing and, you know, just happens that way.
• 34:27
  It's just storytelling. It's how you explain
• 34:30
  experiences. And Robyn's just so gross.
• 34:32
  She tries to make it sound like it's this special, charming
• 34:35
  thing that Kody does, and it's
• 34:37
  No, Meri says that this is the
• 34:44
  When you're in a situation like this, it is so uncomfortable.
• 34:49
  They can just barely handle it
• 34:54
  reiterating this and they keep
• 34:59
  interview moments of each wife
• 35:03
  to listen to your spouse on the phone with somebody else.
• 35:07
  I don't understand how you're this many years into a plural
• 35:10
  marriage and this is the most uncomfortable situation to hear
• 35:16
  him on the phone. I would think this would just be
• 35:19
  a normal kind of everyday occurrence if you happen to be
• 35:24
  with one of the sister wives and
• 35:26
  But apparently it's one of the
• 35:30
  And they say that they know that
• 35:35
  to be normal and for him to actually be able to be on
• 35:39
  speakerphone and speaking to all
• 35:42
  calling each one individually.
• 35:47
  interesting here, that he has started sending mass texts to
• 35:53
  the wives, including mass I love
• 35:58
  And they all find it weird. And what are they supposed to
• 36:01
  do? Respond with I love you too, I
• 36:06
  love you all too. What do you do?
• 36:10
  And that's weird to me. That's the step too far to me.
• 36:15
  Girl, I do have to laugh at you calling it in mass text because
• 36:19
  you know the group. It's just funny because you're
• 36:24
  making it sound like it's going to, you know, like the whole
• 36:26
  school board or something. It's like it's a group text with
• 36:29
  the wives. Yes, it is true that they are
• 36:32
  saying it is strange and it would be strange in a certain
• 36:36
  element. This was, you know, a decade ago
• 36:38
  or something plus. So group texting is a pretty new
• 36:42
  thing. And at that time, you know, so
• 36:44
  he's incorporating this new practice in with his wives.
• 36:47
  Sure. I was thinking of it from the
• 36:49
  lens of I'm not a big texter. I I don't necessarily like doing
• 36:55
  banter back and forth that isn't
• 36:57
  Some people love it when someone
• 37:00
  are you? I'm like, Oh my God.
• 37:02
  Because I'm like, I don't know, like.
• 37:04
  Tell me how you really feel. Tell me how you're really.
• 37:08
  I just don't do a lot of like random pleasantries, like I just
• 37:11
  don't. And so I would operate and
• 37:14
  prefer, let's do a group text.
• 37:17
  need to know, do a group text.
• 37:18
  Let's knock it out. But then also, if your spouse
• 37:22
  says I love you to you and their
• 37:26
  you respond to that? Do you sideline love you too?
• 37:30
  I mean, love you back? It's weird.
• 37:32
  Why would you even send and I love you to all of your wives on
• 37:35
  one group thread? I understand why they think it's
• 37:38
  weird, but I also, as a man who has an issue communicating,
• 37:42
  appreciate the effectiveness and
• 37:46
  I think it's weird. I don't think that having a
• 37:49
  group phone call would be weird where you're just checking in
• 37:52
  with all the wives, giving them an update on the kids, saying I
• 37:56
  love you guys, can't wait to see
• 37:59
  all miss you. That's something different than
• 38:03
  saying I love you to a group of people.
• 38:07
  Not saying I love you all. It's like a copy and paste
• 38:12
  situation. Where have you ever found out
• 38:15
  that you were part of a copy paste situation?
• 38:19
  That you were seeing somebody that someone else was seeing and
• 38:22
  they were saying the exact same thing to you that they said to
• 38:24
  the other person? Because that is weird.
• 38:28
  But you would think being sister
• 38:34
  when it's all in one group it feels odd to me.
• 38:38
  I don't know. It's an unorthodox thing to
• 38:41
  navigate. I I don't really know how you
• 38:42
  would know the best practices.
• 38:46
  He can only, he can only do so
• 38:50
  But I would re emphasize what you were talking about.
• 38:53
  How how is this strange? Because when the women are all
• 38:56
  sitting around this table, there's no way.
• 39:01
  My assumption is that the topics
• 39:04
  intimate, high pressure, blah,
• 39:06
  He's checking in with everyone.
• 39:07
  How would it be weird for Christine to talk about?
• 39:10
  Yeah, You know, I went and tried on some dresses.
• 39:12
  I didn't really like any of them.
• 39:13
  And Meri being like, yeah, I didn't find anything.
• 39:15
  And Robyn being like, well, I was liking something, but I
• 39:17
  didn't pick something up, like, oh, are the kids OK?
• 39:19
  I mean, these are not, you know, like, what'd you make for dinner
• 39:26
  Why do you have to talk to them each individually and call each
• 39:30
  individual phone? It's not like you're saying,
• 39:32
  hey, I washed your diaphragm out for you.
• 39:35
  It's drying on the sink in the bathroom, not.
• 39:38
  The diaphragm. No, you're talking about your
• 39:41
  kids. You're giving updates about
• 39:44
  normal things, right? I just don't know how it could
• 39:52
  about basic things. It just, it doesn't make any
• 39:55
  sense to me. It's like they're so overtly
• 39:57
  sensitive about the sharing of affection and these kind of
• 40:00
  conversations where it's like, I mean, the affection bit, OK.
• 40:03
  It'll it continues on throughout the whole series.
• 40:06
  There's a point where later on, years down the road, it's almost
• 40:12
  making out and fucking in front of people.
• 40:14
  And it's like, that's where is that happening?
• 40:16
  Like you can't hug and give your spouse a kiss on the lips and be
• 40:21
  Like it just, it's so strange. Their sensitivity to this is
• 40:24
  mind boggling to me. It's like, you do know he's
• 40:27
  going to fuck her tonight, right?
• 40:28
  Well, it's interesting to know that they are still sensitive
• 40:30
  about it in the future, because part of me was wondering if it's
• 40:40
  really do do separate calls like this in a situation where
• 40:45
  they'd be together. And they've made it very clear
• 40:53
  like this normally. So maybe it is organic and maybe
• 40:58
  Part of me was wondering if it was set up for the drama purpose
• 41:06
  When I was under the impression that he called Christine and
• 41:09
  that she was just passing the phone on like that, they just
• 41:12
  all talked. Yeah, I didn't pay too much
• 41:14
  attention to the phone. I just thought that they passed
• 41:17
  it along. But.
• 41:18
  Regardless of the same lives, you know, I just felt like Kody
• 41:22
  seemed oblivious that he thought, oh, this is a good time
• 41:29
  were out to dinner together. So he called them all in
• 41:34
  succession. So that he called each phone in
• 41:37
  succession. And that's why it was weird to
• 41:41
  It wasn't that they were back in their hotel rooms and each
• 41:44
  getting a call that night and alone it it was a copy paste
• 41:47
  type of thing where I got to check in on one, I got to check
• 41:51
  in on the other. Not an individual.
• 41:53
  I care about you, so I'm checking on you, OK?
• 41:56
  Thing. See, now that would definitely
• 42:03
  and then whatever. I didn't capture the phone.
• 42:05
  But who knows, because they don't tell us this.
• 42:08
  Thing yeah, we always have to come up with our own
• 42:10
  conclusions. That's the whole point of this.
• 42:12
  That's why I love this so much,
• 42:14
  because there'd be nothing to talk about, I suppose, right?
• 42:17
  They didn't do this to us. Yeah, if they, if they gave us
• 42:22
  accurate, complete, funny or moving stories, what would we
• 42:26
  complain about? But I also do believe that this
• 42:29
  family is like a bad sitcom where they don't communicate.
• 42:33
  And so this is what's happening.
• 42:35
  I'm torn between if it's production setting up drama, or
• 42:40
  if this family just sucks this much at communicating that the
• 42:48
  Christine says in her memoir that they sucked this much at
• 42:51
  communicating. So it's watching a train wreck
• 42:58
  not? It's human nature to want to sit
• 43:04
  we're doing. That's why people are listening
• 43:06
  to it. I love it.
• 43:07
  That's why I like reading the comments that people have to say
• 43:14
  everybody's point of view. It's a bad sitcom though.
• 43:17
  And the production driven bit versus how even at the beginning
• 43:25
  They've told us they don't communicate effectively, but
• 43:27
  then they don't address it. They just move on.
• 43:29
  We've heard about it in the future and their books, as
• 43:31
  you're saying. I mean they clearly do not have
• 43:34
  good communication. Imagine your production, do you
• 43:38
  feel some sort of responsibility for fucking a
• 43:41
  family up like this? If you did set some of this up
• 43:47
  it 1000 times worse to get a good show out of it.
• 43:50
  Well, now if you're asking me as a producer, I would say no.
• 43:54
  I would say I take my paycheck and I buy a second house and I
• 44:00
  As a human, I would say the same thing.
• 44:04
  No, I just I. Don't know, like, what are the
• 44:11
  general. And now I'm getting too
• 44:12
  hypothetical and out there, but that's the time period too, you
• 44:16
  know, the beginning of reality TV versus what it is now and the
• 44:24
  Yeah. And how many people get into
• 44:26
  reality TV and it's like their marriage is strengthened, their
• 44:29
  families are better than ever, They have the even better
• 44:31
  careers. Like that doesn't happen to
• 44:33
  anybody. So, you know, it's like they get
• 44:41
  So as a producer, I would say no, there is no problem at all
• 44:46
  bits and the opportunity for us to have a podcast, then destroy
• 44:49
  the families. It just gets so messy and it's
• 45:00
  call that get out of control. So I don't know.
• 45:05
  Well, we're going to get another whiplash moment, and I hope that
• 45:16
  end up at Britex. Britex.
• 45:20
  Britex. Fabric store and we are going to
• 45:32
  this designer friend of Robyn's brought up the idea.
• 45:39
  Well, what if we design dresses for this ceremony?
• 45:43
  You guys had such poor luck in these wonderful expensive
• 45:47
  boutiques that I brought you to. And if you can't find something
• 45:52
  magical enough in these places, perhaps I could draw you
• 45:57
  something with my abilities. So let's go to a fabric store.
• 46:11
  That's true. Yeah.
• 46:13
  Kendra is really, really leading these women to success when it
• 46:20
  Christine does take this opportunity to review yet again
• 46:24
  the requirements that it must be beautiful and fun and modest
• 46:29
  and unattainable. They're picky in particular and
• 46:32
  she tells us that they're considering having dresses made
• 46:35
  for this non recommitment ceremony.
• 46:37
  Now was this a real time moment thing where they made this
• 46:42
  decision based on some Kendra recommendations or how their
• 46:45
  trip is unfurling? Or was it already known?
• 46:48
  I'm assuming it's already known because it doesn't seem like
• 46:51
  they're in any hurry to buy anything so.
• 46:53
  Christine says that she needs to find something that sings to
• 47:01
  her. I like the Holy Spirit.
• 47:05
  I cannot wait for an iconic episode where we get Christine
• 47:15
  of Christine's rendition of Let Me Call You Sweetheart.
• 47:18
  It is going to make people cry. It's going to move people.
• 47:23
  I feel like I need to start working on an actual rendition
• 47:32
  that I can make a farce of it when I pretend to be Christine,
• 47:37
  but that everyone will know how truly wonderful I am by my real
• 47:42
  version. Listen honey, you are getting
• 47:45
  the gears turning in this old rusty brain.
• 47:48
  You know how we like to do a special intro on this song for
• 48:00
  intro featuring the lyrical stylings and vocal prowess that
• 48:05
  is Kimber. If you want it, she will give
• 48:10
  it. Set in an accent.
• 48:14
  Thank you, thank you, Thank you for giving us the accent.
• 48:17
  Yes, yes. Oh boy.
• 48:19
  Speaking of Robyn's friend Kendra, she takes the
• 48:21
  opportunity to do a little sketch of a dress based on one
• 48:29
  And you know, Robyn's giving her some descriptions and some
• 48:33
  feedback. And while this is happening,
• 48:35
  Robyn is searching and holding some purple fabric.
• 48:37
  Of course, I'm like, oh, Robyn in that purple.
• 48:40
  She's so royal. She's so majestic that she needs
• 48:56
  and help her. Inspirational.
• 48:59
  I wonder if it'll have a bunch of cellophane crumpled.
• 49:02
  Up. I was going to say, just wrap
• 49:05
  her in some Saran wrap and call it a day.
• 49:08
  Put enough layers around, maybe do some Christmas Saran wrap,
• 49:13
  make it red and green and you got a dress.
• 49:17
  You got your dress, Christine. I moved, I can see it now.
• 49:22
  They do leave this fabric store with some shopping bags and I
• 49:26
  found it to be unfortunate that we didn't get to see what they
• 49:32
  We didn't get to see what they bought.
• 49:34
  So I'm assuming Robyn bought things because it's Robyn.
• 49:38
  Yeah, I'm guessing it's just a bunch of ribbons and, you know,
• 49:42
  accoutrement things that were on sale in the back.
• 49:46
  Nothing that they really needed, nothing to make the actual
• 49:50
  dresses. I thought maybe you were going
• 49:54
  You know, that's one of my favorite words.
• 49:57
  Love me some charcuterie. Kody is taking the kids bowling.
• 50:04
  bowling alley, Kody says. It's funny to me that not one of
• 50:08
  them asked me how to do it. And then they show a shot of him
• 50:11
  bowling a gutter ball, which is amazing.
• 50:15
  Is he aware of how absurd he is?
• 50:18
  Because he doesn't seem to be in on the whole thing?
• 50:21
  And this is what's funny. Like, you know, if I was to bowl
• 50:30
  even asked me how to bowl successfully.
• 50:31
  But he doesn't seem to be in on it.
• 50:34
  And it's so strange. He's not in on the joke because
• 50:38
  they show him doing gutterball after gutterball after
• 50:42
  gutterball and Aspen gets 3 strikes in a row and Kody says
• 50:54
  And it reminds me of what he said earlier about Janelle
• 50:59
  fitting in the extra large T-shirt.
• 51:02
  I was pleasantly surprised. Or whatever the fuck he said.
• 51:06
  Actually. Actually surprised.
• 51:08
  Oh, she doesn't even have form. She's just really good.
• 51:13
  Like don't give her any credit at all.
• 51:16
  Oh, she just happens to be good at this.
• 51:19
  Yeah. Can't give her any kudos.
• 51:22
  He's such a Dick. He just, everything he says is
• 51:30
  Dismissive of their capabilities, dismissive of who
• 51:33
  they are as people. He's just a Dick.
• 51:37
  As the scene progresses, there's hokey music playing bowling
• 51:41
  footage. Kody continues to bowl terribly,
• 51:46
  He points out that Aspen was the best bowler.
• 51:48
  Her score was higher than his. He bowled in 84.
• 51:52
  And I'm only saying that not because I could probably bowl
• 51:55
  much better, but because it is so satisfying that Kody didn't
• 52:03
  Aspen bowled at 1:49. Oh, that would be the score I
• 52:07
  would be very proud of. I would be like 149 and I'm
• 52:10
  feeling fine. He makes it a point to tell us,
• 52:13
  though, that he got second place behind her.
• 52:15
  Oh, right. So he.
• 52:18
  Beat all the small children. Yeah.
• 52:20
  My God, what a winner. Yep, he had to tell us that.
• 52:23
  You know, Kody's the kind of guy that's like, oh what?
• 52:25
  We're just giving trophies away for participating.
• 52:27
  It's like you're giving yourself credit for beating 6 year olds
• 52:32
  That's how I felt about the 5K in the beginning.
• 52:36
  You know, he had to take off like a bat out of hell and pace,
• 52:43
  beat everyone else in this 5K. And so sorry to say it seemed
• 52:46
  like a ragtag bunch. Didn't seem like a bunch of
• 52:49
  people that were used to doing 5 KS Sir.
• 52:51
  So Yep, you be proud of yourself, OK?
• 52:55
  God, he has no self-awareness whatsoever.
• 52:59
  This guy? None.
• 53:02
  Yeah. We get back to the lovely San
• 53:08
  Fran and the wives are going to an Irish pub to have lunch.
• 53:13
  This Irish pub is called Martin Max and Kendra was so excited to
• 53:29
  Oh, so not only is Kendra a fashion icon, she's also an
• 53:34
  alcoholic. Fuck, don't those go hand in
• 53:38
  hand? No.
• 53:40
  Excuse me? An alleged alcoholic.
• 53:42
  What am I saying, you know? So of course Meri has to ask,
• 53:46
  are you going to judge us if we drink a beer?
• 53:48
  Robyn and Robyn's like, no, you can do whatever you want,
• 53:52
  Janelle says. I don't generally like it, but
• 54:00
  it's against their faith to drink alcohol.
• 54:02
  The server brings them out of flight or something of different
• 54:09
  know, causes Christine to say they're just big glasses of
• 54:13
  beer. Full glasses.
• 54:14
  They're just these big glasses. It's like Christine, Oh my God,
• 54:18
  they brought out beer. Calm down girl, Get a grip.
• 54:21
  She's acting like she's never drank a beer, which we know she
• 54:24
  has. Yeah, she says that.
• 54:25
  Oh, we were just going to each take a sip of the beers to try
• 54:33
  taking a sip out of each of them.
• 54:35
  Oh, no. Oh, the camera's cut and she
• 54:39
  goes. We can't let this go to waste,
• 54:45
  you don't say anything. Since when is this family
• 54:48
  concerned about waste? They buy all disposable shit and
• 54:53
  doesn't care about some beer being dumped down a drain.
• 54:56
  I do want to point out again here that the other wives looked
• 55:08
  already as well for approval and that she's the holy one that
• 55:15
  But do you mind if we do? And they kind of sound like
• 55:19
  they're joking about it, but they're not because they're
• 55:21
  probably worried that she's going to go back to Kody.
• 55:25
  And Janelle says, well, Kody won't get mad at us if we have a
• 55:29
  beer. He's not our overseer.
• 55:32
  But then why are you guys joking
• 55:35
  going to judge you? Because you know she's going to
• 55:37
  go to Kody and tell him. So yet again, what they're
• 55:43
  saying isn't adding up to reality.
• 55:48
  She's a snitch. If not going to snitch a step in
• 55:51
  for his role of, you know, Shamer, Judger, finger Wagger.
• 55:56
  And they're definitely teeing it
• 55:59
  And when Janelle says that on the couch about how Kody's not
• 56:02
  our overseer or anything, he doesn't control us, Robyn says
• 56:05
  no, but he's your husband and taps Janelle on the knee as if
• 56:09
  like, hello, he is your husband.
• 56:12
  And Janelle responds saying, well, I'll listen to him, but
• 56:15
  it's not like he even tries. He doesn't try to tell me what
• 56:21
  And Robyn goes, I know. And it's like, no, you don't
• 56:24
  know. That's not what you actually
• 56:26
  don't think that you're actually literally stepping in as a
• 56:29
  surrogate to be the judge, the jury and the executioner about
• 56:35
  To me the knee tap and her saying well he is your husband
• 56:43
  better watch what you say right now or you better get in your
• 56:47
  place. You know he is your husband.
• 56:49
  It's that mom under the table giving you a pinch because you
• 56:54
  And these are the things we're seeing.
• 56:57
  And you could label that pinch a keep sweet pinch because it
• 57:00
  definitely had that vibes of listen, you don't need to say
• 57:03
  this about your husband. And it's like she's not even
• 57:05
  saying anything that's scandalous or ridiculous.
• 57:06
  She's pointing out that Kody doesn't tell her what to do.
• 57:09
  Also speaking to the differences in their relationships, Janelle
• 57:12
  probably doesn't get held under the thumb so much by Kody
• 57:16
  because he navigates that relationship differently than he
• 57:20
  Who needs to be shamed for what? Not having a sunny disposition?
• 57:25
  Not falling into line.
• 57:26
  You've seemed, however you've seemed recently.
• 57:28
  He's always like shaming her. He probably tries to do that
• 57:31
  with Janelle. And Janelle's probably like
• 57:32
  water off a duck's back. Dude, I'm living my life, I'm
• 57:34
  who I am. So he doesn't have that same
• 57:36
  control over her. But as we've seen Robyn do many
• 57:39
  times, she covers for Kody and
• 57:43
  than he is. She did that during the panel
• 57:46
  discussion. She backtracks for him a lot.
• 57:49
  He tries to over explain for him
• 57:55
  good quote UN quote. So to me this is her way of
• 57:59
  saying a husband is supposed to be your overseer.
• 58:04
  Shut the fuck up. Just because he's not actually
• 58:07
  your overseer doesn't mean that other people in the church
• 58:10
  shouldn't see him as that. What are you doing?
• 58:13
  Stop. That's the vibe I get is that
• 58:16
  she is trying to cover for Kody and say how dare you embarrass
• 58:21
  him by saying that he doesn't control you, he doesn't oversee
• 58:25
  you, and that he would let you
• 58:28
  that on camera? Pinch shut the fuck up.
• 58:33
  You're embarrassing our husband.
• 58:34
  Keep sweet, you know. Yeah, it's more insidious than
• 58:43
  and how ingrained they used to be.
• 58:47
  They're not showing it at this point.
• 58:49
  They don't show us doing the Sunday sermons with Kody.
• 58:52
  They don't show him being the prophet.
• 58:55
  It's like the show is distancing itself from the religion, but
• 59:00
  they're still in the religious mindset of, oh, we're showing
• 59:04
  off skin on ATV show, and this is awkward.
• 59:07
  Oh, you're talking about how your husband doesn't mind if you
• 59:22
  Yeah, that distance is happening behind the scenes because as we
• 59:25
  learned in the future, they obviously do have a disconnect
• 59:31
  did the show and they distance from that side as well.
• 59:34
  So there's a lot of distancing happening while still being
• 59:36
  conditioned and trying to earn their spot in the Celestial
• 59:40
  Kingdom and all. You know, they have talked about
• 59:51
  really hot when they were on the road trip or some sort of road
• 59:58
  take off these long shirts under our short sleeves.
• 1:00:02
  And we make a lot of fun of the long sleeves under the short
• 1:00:07
  sleeves because it's odd looking.
• 1:00:08
  Layering was in at this time, but not the type of layering
• 1:00:13
  that they do. And a lot of it doesn't match
• 1:00:15
  and it does look weird and sometimes it shows off your skin
• 1:00:22
  sense. It calls more attention to your
• 1:00:25
  body than if you didn't have it on.
• 1:00:27
  So it's very weird as a viewer, not from that religion, but you
• 1:00:33
  see moments like this where, oh, Kody's going to be
• 1:00:37
  embarrassed. So the cult's rear in his head,
• 1:00:40
  underneath the surface. And now we're going to take a
• 1:00:43
  serious turn in the episode, a
• 1:00:47
  Las Vegas. Aspen is making food and
• 1:00:51
  updating us. That truly doesn't feel well at
• 1:00:54
  all that she kept Aspen up all
• 1:00:58
  She kept moving from place to place, and she's definitely
• 1:01:01
  missing her mom. While Aspen is giving us this
• 1:01:04
  update, the camera pans to Truly
• 1:01:10
  their house, and you know that
• 1:01:14
  she's hunched over, head bent down towards the ground.
• 1:01:18
  Clearly not well. Now this is our first intro to
• 1:01:22
  this, so you kind of don't really know how serious it is.
• 1:01:25
  It's just truly, it's not feeling well and she's sick.
• 1:01:28
  Then we get Kody entering the frame and he tells us that she
• 1:01:32
  doesn't feel good, but she doesn't have a fever.
• 1:01:34
  And I don't know what's wrong.
• 1:01:37
  doctor. Kody And Aspen says, well, did
• 1:01:39
  you feel how hot she was yesterday?
• 1:01:41
  And Kody says she didn't feel that hot.
• 1:01:42
  I know a fever. And he's just feeling her head
• 1:01:45
  with his hand. He hasn't actually taken her
• 1:01:47
  temperature. And that pisses me off to see
• 1:01:52
  he's putting the back of his hand to her head.
• 1:01:54
  Well, she doesn't have a fever.
• 1:01:57
  Do you know that for sure? Do you really know that?
• 1:02:01
  Me just looking at her, she looks unwell.
• 1:02:05
  A child does not just act that way out of nowhere and look that
• 1:02:13
  can pretend this is not one of those situations.
• 1:02:16
  So for him to be using his hand as a gauge for her temperature,
• 1:02:20
  get out of fucking thermometer and take this seriously.
• 1:02:24
  Aspen and Mckelty tell us that they are worried about her.
• 1:02:29
  They're having a conversation and they're saying that they are
• 1:02:39
  The older teenagers are showing more concern about Truly than
• 1:02:43
  Truly's father. There's a voice over from Kody
• 1:02:49
  bowling the day before and how she had to be held the entire
• 1:02:53
  time while he's saying this. They're showing a clip of
• 1:02:55
  Mckelty holding her at the bowling alley where Truly does
• 1:03:10
  crouched even further over the course of just one voice over.
• 1:03:19
  like something you just ignore or brush off as she's not
• 1:03:22
  feeling well. Like something is clearly not
• 1:03:24
  right here. No, she looks lethargic and
• 1:03:27
  weak, and it's not something where a little kid is just
• 1:03:30
  trying to get attention. You can tell the difference, and
• 1:03:45
  unwell. This is unwell and Kody just
• 1:03:49
  pushing it off. It's either a sign of the fact
• 1:03:52
  that he has too many fucking kids and you know, each child
• 1:03:55
  gets a little less and less of
• 1:03:59
  she'll be fine. That type of attitude, or it's
• 1:04:02
  selfishness that he doesn't want
• 1:04:07
  leave the other kids. And what would he do if he had
• 1:04:10
  to go and take her in to a doctor and see if she was OK?
• 1:04:15
  The whole thing is dismissive yet again.
• 1:04:18
  But now it's of a child that can't really tell you how she's
• 1:04:23
  feeling, but she is physically
• 1:04:27
  and you're not believing it. And counter to what we usually
• 1:04:31
  see from Truly, which is like joyous, rambunctious, full of
• 1:04:34
  energy. Yeah.
• 1:04:35
  And as you said, I mean, a kid
• 1:04:38
  certain kind of way that is not the vibes at all.
• 1:04:42
  And another element that I would
• 1:04:45
  really know how. I don't really want to get
• 1:04:47
  sidetracked by it too much at this point.
• 1:04:49
  But I also think there's the element of insurance and
• 1:04:53
  bringing children to the doctor.
• 1:04:55
  I don't think that's a regular practice in this family.
• 1:04:58
  I think that we saw that when Mckelty got thrown from the
• 1:05:02
  horse and they brought her to a chiropractor.
• 1:05:04
  I mean, it's a cultural, A cultural thing.
• 1:05:08
  But also we do learn from Christine in the future that the
• 1:05:16
  we're talking about, she paid for for a very long time.
• 1:05:19
  And I don't think it's because they had insurance.
• 1:05:22
  I'd rather have my child alive than worry about fucking medical
• 1:05:29
  Take that kid to the doctor. Yeah, how?
• 1:05:33
  Dare you. I hear you don't have kids.
• 1:05:35
  Then don't have kids. And I know that's a privileged
• 1:05:42
  These people could have fucking helped it.
• 1:05:44
  If you are not going to take your child to the doctor because
• 1:05:52
  That's disgusting. It's despicable, it's neglect.
• 1:06:04
  kids to get into the celestial Kingdom but you're going to let
• 1:06:08
  one of those kids potentially die because of insurance and
• 1:06:11
  money? Fuck you.
• 1:06:13
  Really heated moment. I think anyone else listening
• 1:06:17
  would agree. I don't know if I remember this
• 1:06:20
  correctly or not but I want to say that they received $400,000
• 1:06:25
  ish mortgages for their homes. So even in Christine's home,
• 1:06:32
  $400,000 mortgage but they're not spending the money on health
• 1:06:38
  I understand having six kids on an insurance policy is
• 1:06:42
  expensive, but I don't know why you're buying a $400,000 home if
• 1:06:48
  Yeah, there's that. All of them could have lived in
• 1:06:52
  two houses together and had health insurance for their kids.
• 1:06:58
  aspect of it that really, really
• 1:07:01
  And the putting on a front and
• 1:07:07
  money on this party because it's
• 1:07:11
  look ridiculous by not having an
• 1:07:15
  ceremony. But now you've got this child
• 1:07:18
  sitting on the floor with an obvious fever, and you're just
• 1:07:21
  going to put your bare ass back of your hand or forehead and
• 1:07:25
  pretend it's all OK. I am like, disgusted by this,
• 1:07:31
  you know? And to find out moving forward
• 1:07:36
  what happens. And I haven't seen the episodes
• 1:07:39
  after this, but I've heard a little bit about what happens
• 1:07:43
  here and there. And so this is giving me a taste
• 1:07:48
  of what's to come. And it pisses me off.
• 1:07:52
  I would leave my husband in a heartbeat if I saw this on
• 1:07:56
  camera and saw this happen. Oh God.
• 1:08:00
  Well, and as you read in Christine's memoir, it basically
• 1:08:04
  was the beginning of the end for
• 1:08:07
  Now, yeah, I don't know if I'm
• 1:08:09
  saying that. No, I don't know how.
• 1:08:11
  It couldn't be the beginning of the end.
• 1:08:13
  I think that we're going to find
• 1:08:16
  exactly why. And I don't know how it couldn't
• 1:08:19
  be the beginning of the end for you as a mom, as a partner, as
• 1:08:24
  somebody who cares about human
• 1:08:28
  And for me, this is the second
• 1:08:30
  I know I was maybe sounding dramatic, but when talking about
• 1:08:33
  finance in college, that was the
• 1:08:35
  be like, this could be a deal breaker.
• 1:08:37
  Like you can't be ruining our children's future over some
• 1:08:40
  adamancy that you have that's easily dismissed.
• 1:08:43
  This is going to be a problem,
• 1:08:46
  child is probably more important
• 1:08:50
  Kody is just putting these things on a platter for us as
• 1:08:53
  viewers of unacceptable decisions and whatever.
• 1:08:57
  There are plenty of people in worse economic situations that
• 1:09:00
  would care more than he does. Oh yeah, and take their child to
• 1:09:04
  the doctor. I wasn't raised in the $400,000
• 1:09:06
  home, but I was able to go to the doctor when I was sick.
• 1:09:09
  My parents made sure that happened so.
• 1:09:11
  Oh yeah, my mom found a way. You know, we were on special
• 1:09:15
  programs in school and got our
• 1:09:18
  embarrassing. But my mom was not too proud to
• 1:09:22
  figure out how to get us through
• 1:09:26
  make sure that we were OK. You know, this is the pride, the
• 1:09:30
  ego thing, and it's gross. It's gross.
• 1:09:34
  Don't have the kids. Then Aspen says that Kody is
• 1:09:39
  actually stressing her out. So all of this is going on and
• 1:09:44
  we're hearing from Aspen and Mckelty that they're really
• 1:09:47
  worried about truly. And Aspen is being stressed out
• 1:09:51
  by her own father, who is supposed to be there watching
• 1:09:55
  the kids. So Aspen is momming harder than
• 1:09:58
  Kody is ever batting. You know, she is stressed by his
• 1:10:03
  behavior and I think she feels
• 1:10:07
  child with him there. Pretty much.
• 1:10:09
  She says that the first day of
• 1:10:16
  called her 16 times after 3:00
• 1:10:21
  She says that's why you need so many wives.
• 1:10:25
  And she's making a joke about,
• 1:10:29
  so you're calling me 16 times and she's making a joke of it,
• 1:10:32
  but it's not a joke. It's not funny.
• 1:10:34
  She's stressed by her own dad.
• 1:10:37
  How could you even call someone 16 times after 3:00 PM as a
• 1:10:42
  rational person in a situation
• 1:10:45
  Like it just doesn't. Because he couldn't do it on his
• 1:10:48
  own. And that makes me wonder, where
• 1:10:52
  was he staying? Whose kids was he staying with?
• 1:10:55
  How were the kids split up between the homes during these
• 1:10:58
  overnights? Because he's calling her after
• 1:11:01
  three PM 16 times. She's probably at one home with
• 1:11:04
  the kids and he's supposed to be
• 1:11:07
  home with the kids and he can't even do it.
• 1:11:11
  Yeah, he's got the audacity to
• 1:11:15
  a breeze. Fuck off.
• 1:11:18
  The reason it's been a breeze is
• 1:11:22
  should be thanking your lucky stars right now.
• 1:11:24
  Kody says this has been a challenge.
• 1:11:26
  But I wouldn't have had my wives
• 1:11:29
  this would have all been on me.
• 1:11:30
  And if I wouldn't have had the help of my teenagers.
• 1:11:32
  There's no way I could handle it all.
• 1:11:35
  So, you know, I guess he gets to acknowledge this and say it out
• 1:11:39
  loud and that's enough for him. Yeah.
• 1:11:42
  We get an exterior shot of the Plague to SAC Brown compound
• 1:11:46
  property, and a minivan comes barreling around the corner like
• 1:11:53
  I'm just kidding. The van's just, the van's just
• 1:12:01
  like here comes the van, but it was just the van coming around
• 1:12:07
  The wives are getting their things out of the van, and
• 1:12:10
  Solomon puts his hand up and pulls the suitcase off the roof
• 1:12:12
  of the van because he's 6 feet tall.
• 1:12:14
  This is when I noticed Solomon is not a newborn.
• 1:12:19
  Solomon is as you said, like 2 years old.
• 1:12:22
  They put him down, he's walking around.
• 1:12:25
  This kid is not someone who needs to be adhered to a nipple
• 1:12:29
  and cared for as if he is a newborn.
• 1:12:31
  I didn't put those pieces together at first so much but
• 1:12:35
  this scene was like holy fucking shit this kid has hair longer
• 1:12:38
  than mine. Something's not right here.
• 1:12:41
  It reminds me of American Horror Story, the vampire series with
• 1:12:59
  old and he was a breastfeeding, he'd be like, come on, life in
• 1:13:05
  It's like, what'd you do to this child?
• 1:13:08
  Put these headphones on him and like sequester him from the
• 1:13:11
  world that he would just like latch to your breast his entire
• 1:13:14
  life? I don't get it.
• 1:13:16
  I don't get it. Yes, well, I did refer to the
• 1:13:21
  brown children in my on the relist and I recorded last week
• 1:13:26
  as Arrested Development. I mean, this is the beginning of
• 1:13:31
  of a pattern. This is what she does with her
• 1:13:43
  It's insane. These people are not allowed to
• 1:13:46
  grow up. I'm going to die.
• 1:13:49
  Yeah. Oh my God.
• 1:13:51
  As this is happening, we see Christine carrying truly off in
• 1:13:54
  a blanket and I'm like, Oh my gosh, like, OK.
• 1:13:57
  Like she's just seeing her baby getting home, her little kids
• 1:14:00
  sick. And Kody says I'm tired.
• 1:14:03
  I'm ready to shut this operation down.
• 1:14:05
  I just, I'm at a loss for words. Christine asked truly if she's
• 1:14:19
  her some further clarity, saying she was in her room
• 1:14:22
  bawling. And Christine's like what?
• 1:14:24
  Mckelty says sometimes she'd let
• 1:14:27
  she wouldn't let us even touch
• 1:14:30
  And Christine's responses, What did you need your mommy?
• 1:14:33
  And it's a little weird to see
• 1:14:37
  quite aware of the severity yet.
• 1:14:39
  It's like she's just seeing truly for the first time and is
• 1:14:43
  just taking this in. And it's like we have the
• 1:14:47
  foresight or the whatever you would say to know that this is
• 1:14:54
  should be taking what Mckelty's saying seriously right now.
• 1:14:57
  You know, like, shit's not good, but truly.
• 1:14:59
  Yeah, she's taking it as, oh, you were sick without your
• 1:15:03
  mommy. Like homesick kind of, right.
• 1:15:05
  She hasn't been away from her that long, ever.
• 1:15:08
  So she really just missed her mommy when?
• 1:15:10
  No, she actually is sick. But how would you know that
• 1:15:14
  coming in? You don't know the severity of
• 1:15:21
  updating her, not Kody. Right.
• 1:15:25
  Mckelty is giving her the 411 on what's been going on and how
• 1:15:30
  sick she's been and how she's been acting.
• 1:15:32
  And Kody is just all right. See you later checking out your
• 1:15:38
  home. I'm shutting this operation down
• 1:15:44
  Not even given the update to the one person that really needs it
• 1:15:50
  here. And who knows if he did behind
• 1:15:54
  Maybe he let her in. I don't think so.
• 1:15:56
  Yeah, I doubt it. I think he was like, I need some
• 1:16:01
  So then we get a couch moment where Kody asks the wives, Do
• 1:16:06
  you guys feel like you accomplished your goals?
• 1:16:09
  Christine says partially. One goal was to find a dress,
• 1:16:13
  but none of us found a dress. But we found styles that we
• 1:16:16
  liked. And Kody responds.
• 1:16:18
  So you went shopping for three days and you didn't find a
• 1:16:22
  dress? And I'm going, OK, so they were
• 1:16:24
  gone for three days. Is this how long they were
• 1:16:26
  actually gone for? I think it might have been.
• 1:16:29
  Like 2 nights, 3 days I think. I'm thinking so too, like a
• 1:16:33
  travel day. Maybe 2 days while they were
• 1:16:35
  there because they were in San Francisco for at least two days.
• 1:16:40
  I don't know. I it's hard to.
• 1:16:42
  Yeah. So let's go with three days.
• 1:16:44
  I'm just teeing it up as another
• 1:16:46
  Were they really gone for three days?
• 1:16:48
  How many days were they gone? Who knows?
• 1:16:50
  Never going to let us know, Never going to let us know.
• 1:16:54
  Never going to tell us something.
• 1:16:57
  These stalkers lie, and they heard us.
• 1:17:01
  You you'd worked in ripping your
• 1:17:04
  earlier, which was a whole a whole new level for any podcast,
• 1:17:09
  let alone our podcast. It was.
• 1:17:10
  These people, they inspire me.
• 1:17:14
  You. They do.
• 1:17:16
  Christine says they tried on dress after dress after dress
• 1:17:19
  for millions of days. And I was reminded, That's
• 1:17:22
  right, Christine, you drive me
• 1:17:26
  You're the reason Mckelty is the
• 1:17:28
  I just don't know what to say.
• 1:17:32
  us to find something modest, says Robyn.
• 1:17:35
  So we're talking about designing
• 1:17:38
  our modesty requirements and also something that fits our
• 1:17:42
  body shapes and sizes. I thought that was wonderful
• 1:17:45
  that Robyn was being so inclusive of her sister vibes.
• 1:17:48
  They're different shapes and sizes, which is how I always
• 1:17:53
  like to have my body referred to
• 1:17:57
  Right. Thanks, Robyn.
• 1:18:00
  Thanks. We got the lava lamp over here,
• 1:18:04
  we got the basketball hoop, we
• 1:18:10
  got me the hourglass. Fucking Robyn.
• 1:18:16
  Not the basketball. Hoop.
• 1:18:18
  I don't know. Who's that?
• 1:18:20
  I have no idea. Oh my God, so good.
• 1:18:25
  Oh, I could describe my body, some parts of it in shapes and
• 1:18:30
  sizes, but if someone else was
• 1:18:33
  size, I would be like check yourself, check yourself.
• 1:18:36
  You best watch yourself. Don't go say that, you better
• 1:18:41
  keep sweet over there. As long as I'm never described
• 1:18:44
  as a thumb, I think I'll be fine
• 1:18:49
  here. Of course, Kody has to continue
• 1:18:53
  on his humorous journey by saying it feels cliche.
• 1:18:56
  You guys went shopping for three days and didn't come home with
• 1:19:07
  And it's totally something my dad would say.
• 1:19:09
  Like you went shopping for three days and you didn't even find
• 1:19:11
  anything. Of course.
• 1:19:12
  And we would all be like, of course, mom, sorry, mom, if
• 1:19:15
  you're listening to this, which you're not, I'm sorry.
• 1:19:19
  In their defense, whenever you have money and you're looking
• 1:19:23
  for something, you can never find anything.
• 1:19:25
  And whenever you don't have money and you're not looking,
• 1:19:28
  that's when you find what you really would love to buy and
• 1:19:32
  have. So yeah, I feel that that's how
• 1:19:34
  it works out. Robyn says he wanted us to bond,
• 1:19:40
  That's what it was all about, bonding.
• 1:19:42
  So if you're asking if we succeeded, we did.
• 1:19:44
  And I just want to say the word bonding one more time.
• 1:19:48
  And of course, we have to wrap this episode up with a lovely
• 1:19:52
  scene. So we get to Robyn's house for
• 1:19:59
  Little shocked that they're at
• 1:20:01
  Robyn's and not Meri's, but who knows what's going on at
• 1:20:04
  Meri's? She's got all of those orders to
• 1:20:12
  kitchen table right now. So we've got to go to Robyn's
• 1:20:15
  for dinner. And Janelle says it feels like a
• 1:20:26
  It feels like home because everybody's here now when you're
• 1:20:35
  been hallucinating, but I think it did look like a bunch of to
• 1:20:45
  orchestrating anything. Also, Meri's fulfilling orders
• 1:20:51
  International World headquarters at Robyn's place.
• 1:20:54
  I mean, there has been a shift in the business and the strategy
• 1:20:59
  Very disappointed puddle monkey. Well, that's where the designing
• 1:21:12
  keep. But the orders, they go through
• 1:21:17
  Meri's house, right. So the production versus the
• 1:21:23
  disbursement, you know the last mile that it's got to get out
• 1:21:31
  that goes through Meri. Yes, Robyn gets to manage
• 1:21:37
  creative and strategy, and Meri gets to do fulfillment and
• 1:21:42
  shipping. So in this case, Meri's
• 1:21:47
  definitely the basketball hoop, and Robyn still gets to keep
• 1:21:51
  that hourglass figure. And that's why Meri needed her
• 1:22:01
  Her projects, it's all making. Boxes and boxes and things that
• 1:22:06
  need to be shipped out, you know?
• 1:22:08
  And when she spends hours and hours on her phone, she's not
• 1:22:11
  texting someone that nobody knows.
• 1:22:13
  No, she's fulfilling the orders and responding to customer
• 1:22:18
  inquiries. Where's my package?
• 1:22:19
  And she goes, hey, it's Meri here from the show.
• 1:22:22
  And everyone's like, Meri's texting me about my jewelry
• 1:22:25
  order. Gosh, she's.
• 1:22:28
  So busy SO. What a mess.
• 1:22:31
  Now honey, this coming up on the little dramatic little dramatic
• 1:22:36
  little drums. Yeah, we just see that truly is
• 1:22:41
  really sick. Aspen is crying at some point
• 1:22:46
  and I started crying in the next step on I tear it up.
• 1:22:51
  I'm so glad you said this because the only thing I had
• 1:22:55
  noted about the coming up on is that I have lived through this
• 1:23:04
  listeners at home, by the way, Truly doesn't just get better
• 1:23:08
  miraculously, OK, The family does have a moment.
• 1:23:10
  And we see it in the coming up on where they're in a circle and
• 1:23:17
  thick throat right now. When I watched it the first
• 1:23:22
  time, like I cried. It's very moving.
• 1:23:25
  So we can't give too much away. We're not even in that episode.
• 1:23:29
  Girl I can't talk about this
• 1:23:30
  anymore but. Aspen reacts how a mom would
• 1:23:33
  react. As moving as it is, it was also
• 1:23:37
  disturbing. And that was just in the next
• 1:23:40
  step on, I hope that my kids love each other enough to react
• 1:23:45
  that way. But for a child, Aspen, still a
• 1:23:48
  child, she's 18. For a child to react the way
• 1:23:51
  that she reacts in that clip, it's the way that a mother would
• 1:23:55
  react to their own child. And so that's why I started
• 1:23:58
  tearing up. And I'm like, I'm getting the
• 1:24:01
  thick throat because the fact that she had that much
• 1:24:07
  heartbreak and like the outcry
• 1:24:11
  heartbreaking. They have parentified some of
• 1:24:15
  these children so much. And it's not that you shouldn't
• 1:24:17
  care about your siblings, but the reaction that came from her
• 1:24:22
  was the reaction I would expect to see from Christine's.
• 1:24:25
  I am. I'm going to cry during this
• 1:24:28
  next episode. I know I'm going to cry.
• 1:24:29
  I'm for sure going to cry. Even though I know Truly is
• 1:24:33
  still alive. She is with us.
• 1:24:35
  She's here today. She is.
• 1:24:38
  She's on this earth tormenting
• 1:24:40
  She absolutely is. I think for me it's the fact
• 1:24:45
  that I can sense the despair from Aspen and it feels like a
• 1:24:51
  mom's despair and it's kind of
• 1:24:57
  It's so funny that we're talking
• 1:25:00
  next episode and we're both like
• 1:25:03
  swallowing. Like it's intense.
• 1:25:06
  It's intense. It's going to be doozy.
• 1:25:08
  It's going to. Be doozy.
• 1:25:10
  Oh my gosh, everybody, it's going to be something.
• 1:25:13
  Be prepared for the Lord, my gods, because days are coming.
• 1:25:18
  To say this is the perfect opportunity for me to remind you
• 1:25:20
  to like and subscribe and to follow and to please give us
• 1:25:24
  five stars and only five stars.
• 1:25:26
  OK, now we are on to mustard seed and shit stain.
• 1:25:30
  I'm going to ask you for your mustard seed for this episode.
• 1:25:39
  and it's who I'm going to pick. So I get to go 1st and pick this
• 1:25:48
  Aspen was a silent hero behind the scenes.
• 1:25:52
  She didn't toot her own horn too much.
• 1:25:55
  She could have been. She should have.
• 1:25:58
  And she was appalled by the fact that Kody didn't want to plan
• 1:26:04
  dinners. And she was running the show
• 1:26:09
  apparently, you know, to everybody but Kody.
• 1:26:13
  I think Kody truly thinks that he had it on the lockdown and
• 1:26:17
  that he was in charge. But I think that if we're being
• 1:26:20
  honest, and if he was being honest with himself, which he
• 1:26:22
  will never be, she is the one that was in charge.
• 1:26:26
  And I applaud her for stepping up because she didn't have to.
• 1:26:40
  know, that's her nature because she had to step up so much as a
• 1:26:46
  child. So she has that mom instinct
• 1:26:49
  where she couldn't just let it all go to shit.
• 1:26:52
  So Aspen is going to get my mustard seed and she got it last
• 1:26:59
  And I gave her a shit stain once and now she's gotten 2 mustard
• 1:27:07
  And I don't know how she is as a
• 1:27:10
  person nowadays so I don't know about that.
• 1:27:14
  But she's getting my mustard seed and she totally deserves
• 1:27:17
  it. She's on Logan Brown status with
• 1:27:20
  me at this point. Wow, wow, that's great.
• 1:27:23
  Saying a lot. We just watched an episode for
• 1:27:27
  her high school graduation. This girl, if I was her, I'd be
• 1:27:33
  like, I'm out, figure your shit out.
• 1:27:35
  I wouldn't be doing this at all.
• 1:27:37
  So, you know, not only the like neglecting or not taking it
• 1:27:41
  seriously in the moment, I would have been like, my bags are in
• 1:27:45
  Figure your own shit out. So yeah, she's she's one of the
• 1:27:48
  good ones. That's why it's so heartbreaking
• 1:27:58
  that she did not have to. It kind of speaks volumes to how
• 1:28:08
  But there are two types of people in this world.
• 1:28:12
  There are the kinds that are going to step up and step in
• 1:28:16
  because they have the heart and they know that they have to.
• 1:28:21
  And then there's the other ones that can't do it and they don't
• 1:28:25
  have to. And you know what?
• 1:28:27
  That's fine. That is good on them, too.
• 1:28:29
  That's a decision you have to make to protect yourselves.
• 1:28:31
  So there's the ones that are going to step away and that have
• 1:28:37
  fall. And she stepped up.
• 1:28:40
  So. Yeah.
• 1:28:41
  Well earned mustard seed for Aspen.
• 1:28:43
  I'm going to give my mustard seed to Janelle because of
• 1:28:48
  course the 5K what not her putting on that hideous blue
• 1:28:52
  T-shirt. She looked great.
• 1:28:54
  I love that she picked up the pace at the end and ran to that
• 1:28:58
  finish line. I also enjoyed her quips and
• 1:29:02
  attitude and silliness while they were in San Francisco and
• 1:29:09
  going to tell me what to do when it comes to something like
• 1:29:13
  this. And was she finger wagged and
• 1:29:14
  reprimanded by Robyn? Yes, but she didn't seem to be
• 1:29:17
  all that affected. And she also during that scene
• 1:29:20
  where Robyn referred to it as a party and she was correcting
• 1:29:23
  her and then, you know, realized her place a little bit.
• 1:29:27
  But I like to give a mustard seed to Janelle when she earns
• 1:29:30
  it and she earned it from me. Now it is time for you to
• 1:29:34
  explode your pants with diarrhea.
• 1:29:40
  No diarrhea, Mamma Mia. You keep just giving me these
• 1:29:44
  things to sing and it's your fucking fault this time around.
• 1:29:47
  You keep setting me up for it.
• 1:29:53
  shit stain. It is obviously going to go to
• 1:29:57
  Robyn. She needs it.
• 1:30:02
  She's wearing it down the front of her ugly ass hot pink
• 1:30:08
  magenta dress. That shit stain is smeared all
• 1:30:11
  the way down that magenta dress.
• 1:30:14
  Number one. She brought baby Sala on this
• 1:30:18
  girl's trip for no fucking reason whatsoever.
• 1:30:20
  She could have pumped if she needed to.
• 1:30:22
  She did not need to bring him with.
• 1:30:24
  He's a crutch for her. She's ruining spoiling her
• 1:30:29
  children. They say you can't spoil a
• 1:30:31
  child. She has obviously spoiled her
• 1:30:33
  children. She tried on all of those
• 1:30:36
  dresses in front of the wives like it was no big deal and put
• 1:30:40
  on a little fashion show and was like Oh my God, like I'm so
• 1:30:43
  sorry that I have to do this. Oh me sure, I'll try that on for
• 1:30:49
  Fucking full of herself. Then she flipped the script and
• 1:30:54
  got like irked by the store owner of the plus size store.
• 1:30:58
  Like oh I got attitude from her Oh my God like I'm so sorry I'm
• 1:31:03
  not plus size fuck off. Then she decided to try to shame
• 1:31:14
  even disparaging about Kody. And I think this is one of the
• 1:31:26
  head that is Kody Brown behind the scenes with the other wives
• 1:31:33
  present. I think that there has been
• 1:31:36
  manipulation going on behind the scenes for a long time that we
• 1:31:44
  have from today's context. But I think in this episode,
• 1:31:49
  there were multiple instances where it was just in our face
• 1:31:55
  how phony she is and that underhanded mean girl vibe.
• 1:32:01
  Regina George, the Regina George of it.
• 1:32:05
  I'm experiencing A hallucination right now.
• 1:32:08
  A visual, a vision brought to me by God from the celestial
• 1:32:15
  Kingdom of Robyn, wiping her ass with those billowy sleeves and
• 1:32:24
  On her. Sleeves.
• 1:32:26
  And she deserves it. My shit stain is going to her
• 1:32:32
  loving husband, Kody Brown. Of course, of course.
• 1:32:35
  Because he he burnt those steaks.
• 1:32:38
  Unforgivable. No other reason whatsoever.
• 1:32:41
  No other reason. Dare you burn a steak, Kody
• 1:32:44
  Brown? And it's not the first time
• 1:32:46
  you've done this to us. How dare you waste God's
• 1:32:49
  precious meats? He can't.
• 1:32:51
  He's not a man. He cannot grill.
• 1:32:54
  Terrible. We've seen it so many times.
• 1:32:56
  I know, I know, I know. Obviously, you know, leaning on
• 1:33:01
  Aspen excessively, calling her 16 times after 3:00 PM in one
• 1:33:06
  day, That's insane. Neglecting truly not taking it
• 1:33:14
  home he probably was really attentive to Robyn and nobody
• 1:33:18
  else. I'm just making that assumption
• 1:33:19
  and I'm pretty sure I'm right. Because of her low blood sugar
• 1:33:31
  God, these people. Not her blood sugar.
• 1:33:38
  Bad, bad. The bad backs cutting off the
• 1:33:44
  blood flow to her brain. It's not her fault.
• 1:33:46
  I mean, she's got to carry that jaw around.
• 1:33:50
  It's just she's a mess. She's a mess.
• 1:33:51
  It's. Too much.
• 1:33:52
  It's too it would be too much for anyone.
• 1:33:54
  Who are we to say? Truly, truly.
• 1:33:57
  Oh God, I don't even need to spend any more time on Kody
• 1:34:01
  Brown. He is a shit stain and everybody
• 1:34:10
  from a toe. We'll give him that.
• 1:34:12
  Our keep sweet moment this week is a comment left on our season
• 1:34:17
  6 episode 13 rewatch boys Night out and this is on Patreon.
• 1:34:23
  Patreon friendly reminder another plug and come back after
• 1:34:34
  This comment is from Chelsea and Chelsea says in reference to oh,
• 1:34:47
  So Chelsea was the first person to comment on this.
• 1:34:52
  We've received others and so honorable mentions to those who
• 1:34:54
  have followed up with further details, but Chelsea was the
• 1:34:57
  first person to leave a comment. And Chelsea says in reference to
• 1:35:03
  It was in season 2 episode 9. If you Google Robyn Brown
• 1:35:09
  kicking dog it will pop up on a couple of Reddit posts but only
• 1:35:14
  in slow motion. However, you can definitely see
• 1:35:16
  that she is kicking the dog. I love your podcast, makes me
• 1:35:21
  laugh every time I listen. So thank you Chelsea for the
• 1:35:24
  compliment. Of course, which is why I'm
• 1:35:26
  reading your Keep Suite, because I need praise.
• 1:35:29
  Kimber will accept the praise. I need it to live and so
• 1:35:34
  appreciate the tidbit on where we can find this footage.
• 1:35:37
  I may or may not have found it. It is actually still in the
• 1:35:41
  episode. I think I refer to it as
• 1:35:43
  potentially cut from the episode, but it's still there.
• 1:35:49
  It was a little hard for me to decipher exactly what's going on
• 1:36:07
  The dog does get physically moved back by her leg, so I've
• 1:36:13
  recorded the footage. We may do something with it.
• 1:36:18
  Should we say something right now, salacious so that I can use
• 1:36:21
  it in a clip that's like, she kicked the dog in the face and
• 1:36:24
  the dog barely survived. Like, how do we make it?
• 1:36:27
  How do we give it the Robyn treatment it deserves?
• 1:36:30
  My thought behind this is if she
• 1:36:37
  the cameras are here, what is she doing when the cameras are
• 1:36:39
  not there? Because the clip, it looks like
• 1:36:44
  the dog is a happy, excited dog and it's getting close.
• 1:36:48
  But she had to move her body out
• 1:36:53
  And she doesn't kick the dog, but she kicks her foot up and
• 1:36:56
  pushes the dog with her foot. So it's not like a hard kick,
• 1:37:01
  but it's like she puts her foot up, makes contact and pushes
• 1:37:05
  with her foot to push the dog away.
• 1:37:07
  So she had to go out of her way to do this.
• 1:37:11
  Now from a person that was raised with dogs and large dogs
• 1:37:15
  and hunting dogs, my dad was a
• 1:37:19
  He trained our dogs very well.
• 1:37:24
  was a jumper, you would do like a gentle knee to the chest.
• 1:37:28
  So if the dog was going to jump up on you, a knee to the chest,
• 1:37:31
  you don't have to do anything but put your knee up and your
• 1:37:34
  knee just touches their chest naturally, they go down.
• 1:37:39
  They stop doing it after a time because they know they're not
• 1:37:41
  going to like get anything from you other than just like you're
• 1:37:44
  putting your knee up to block them.
• 1:37:47
  And that would have been an easy
• 1:37:51
  excited like this. I think at this point in the
• 1:37:56
  filming, she knew the dogs well enough to know if they were
• 1:38:00
  coming at her aggressively or not.
• 1:38:01
  So I don't buy the angle that the dog was coming out them to
• 1:38:04
  jump on them or being aggressive.
• 1:38:06
  No, that's bullshit. You know these dogs by now you
• 1:38:10
  should know if the dog is going to bite or whatever.
• 1:38:15
  So you can't even pretend that
• 1:38:19
  She went out of her way to move her leg across her body, kick
• 1:38:24
  out and push the dog. That's my take.
• 1:38:28
  I just can't help but think what
• 1:38:32
  like a 15 or 20 foot dog come and kick Robyn out of the way.
• 1:38:36
  I think that would be nice as she's approaching, right?
• 1:38:40
  As if we needed any more reasons
• 1:38:42
  We don't need any more reasons, she's just putting them up on a
• 1:38:45
  platter. Here I am kicking dogs while I'm
• 1:38:47
  being filmed. She is, though, like she really
• 1:38:50
  is an if she's doing this on film, what is she doing off
• 1:38:55
  film? You know, this might have been
• 1:38:57
  her gently kicking the dog out
• 1:39:00
  film. But if she thinks this is OK, Oh
• 1:39:03
  well, like just pushed it with
• 1:39:06
  whatever. Imagine what she does when she's
• 1:39:09
  not on camera. Because we all know that what
• 1:39:12
  you're going to do in front of
• 1:39:15
  times over when there's nobody
• 1:39:20
  So I just wonder what her behavior towards animals is like
• 1:39:25
  when nobody's watching and no cameras are rolling.
• 1:39:28
  Speaking of not being documented
• 1:39:34
  going to cry like a baby next week.
• 1:39:37
  I'm hoping I get all of my tears
• 1:39:40
  That seems unlikely, so be prepared to hear me cry next
• 1:39:44
  week. You've been warned.
• 1:39:46
  Same ZS and I'll be wearing my
• 1:39:54
  top just for Christopher to see.
• 1:39:56
  He'll have to sit across from me during the recording going.
• 1:40:00
  We were we were looking at that. I'll look tan as hell, that's
• 1:40:05
  for sure. Are we allowed to give a shit
• 1:40:08
  stain to a Co host? I don't think so.
• 1:40:13
  No, no, no.