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Sex, Drugs & Human Trials with Danielle E. - E5 | S3 · The Unspoken Podcast w/ Breyden & Cody

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Speaker 1: Sex, drugs, human trials, those are three different things that
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sound like they probably shouldn't be in the same sentence.
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But today, they absolutely are. We're talking about what really
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happens before a medication ever reaches your medicine cabinet. And yeah,
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so why people willingly sign up to be human test subjects?
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And yes, we're getting into sexual enhancement drugs, STIs, clinical trials,
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and some of the research happening behind closed doors. Welcome
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back to The Unspoken Truth. Today we're joined by Danielle
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Everett with Alerica Clinical Research. Alerica Clinical Research works in
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a world that most of us never really see. They're
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involved in the clinical trials and research that help determine
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whether new medications and treatments are safe and whether they
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work and whether they may eventually be available to people
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who need them. Their research includes areas like sexual health,
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sexually transmitted diseases. infections, and treatments designed to improve quality
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of life. Danielle gets a front row seat to a
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part of healthcare that most people only hear about, clinical trials.
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So today we're sitting behind the scenes with Danielle. Danielle,
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welcome to the show.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: How are you? I'm doing well. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're glad to have you here. We were having
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a couple of drinks prior, talking about the episode and everything.
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Speaker 4: And so, yeah, we're glad to have you.
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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. You know, the only time we've ever
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hung out is in pretty much nothing on and on
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the lake. So, yeah, this is a nice surprise. Nice change.
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And I got to meet your good friend here today. Very,
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very pleasant.
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Speaker 3: I'm still here, guys.
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Speaker 2: I'm still here. I've only heard about the elusive Cody.
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Speaker 4: Yes, I come and go. I come and go. What
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we're going to talk about, coming and going. Yeah, right.
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Speaker 1: So Danielle, before we scare everybody with the human phrase,
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human trials, tell us a little bit about yourself and
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what you do at Alera.
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Speaker 2: Well, I appreciate it. I have been a registered nurse
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for 25 plus years. I got my clinical background in
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more of the trauma, ER realm, sector of healthcare, and
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started moving up into more of the management side of
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things within the hospital very, very quickly. So I got
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to see kind of the other side. About six years ago,
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I was approached by a guy and said, hey, I
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have opened a clinical trials company. I received your name.
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As far as somebody that knows their way around the
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healthcare landscape in the DFW area and know how to
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expand operations, I need you to help me expand my company.
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And I said, I really don't know anything about clinical trials.
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And he said, you know what? I'll teach you that,
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and you teach me how to expand operations. And so...
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We worked hand in hand for a couple of years together,
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and I was the COO of that company. And I
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saw the money that was to be made and the
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work that I was putting in. And so with this blessing,
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I went to start my own very small clinical trials company.
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Within a year, I was approached by a group of
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investors out of Canada that said, Hey, we hear about you.
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We hear what you're doing. You're, you know, you've got
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some really great things going on. We want to invest
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some money. And so with, I met them within a
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week at a hotel signing papers and saying, I knew
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I had my own company. So we've been around for
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about a little over a year and we did very
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well the first year. And one of the things, though,
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that people don't realize is that industry took a pretty
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big hit with the new administration that's around with the
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Trump and MAGA era. A lot of tax dollars, a
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lot of money that was out there, even from donors,
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went to fund clinical trials, right? And you heard about
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the AIDS research and the cancer research and all the
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stories about The funding wasn't there anymore. And so that,
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you know, it's a trickle down effect, obviously took a
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hit on my type of company. Right. And so I
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had to start finding ulterior things out there to do
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clinical trials on since basically cancer research was cut, AIDS
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research was cut. And so we started doing a lot
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of the alternative medications.
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Speaker 4: How long have you done this?
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Speaker 2: Gosh, I've owned my own company for, like I said,
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the past year and a half, but I've been in
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clinical trials about six years now.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 4: So COVID, how did COVID affect it?
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Speaker 2: COVID was actually great for us, as a matter of fact.
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COVID was amazing for us because if you remember, everybody
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became a researcher overnight. Everybody's digging into vaccines. A lot
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of money. Yeah, a lot of money was being thrown, right,
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at clinical research. And so COVID was very well. Actually,
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it was the dip after COVID that really impacted us.
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Like I said, the new kind of, like I said,
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the people now that are pulling back some of that money,
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that administration that's out there doing that. There's not a
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lot of money for research anymore. So now you start
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looking at ulterior research industries to work in. And so
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alternative medicine is one of the things we've started doing
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most recently.
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Speaker 4: By alternative, what do you mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, you know, there's a lot of medication with just mushrooms,
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you know, just psilocybin.
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Speaker 4: Psychedelic.
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Speaker 3: Psychedelic, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Holistic.
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Speaker 1: Holistic.
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Speaker 2: There's ketamine. You know, there's things out there.
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Speaker 4: Holistic more medicines.
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Speaker 3: That's what you mean.
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah. Is ketamine holistic? It is now. It is. Okay.
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There's so many clinical trials out there on the market now.
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It is helping people in some areas. I know.
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Speaker 4: You can imagine.
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Speaker 2: And micro doses now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. What the fuck?
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the circuit parties when you're sniffing.
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Speaker 2: We're not putting.
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Speaker 4: It in y'all's noses.
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Speaker 3: We're actually doing this titrating.
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Speaker 2: It's very titrated now. Hell, you can even get on
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the internet and speak to it. You can.
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Speaker 4: And they have these tabs.
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Speaker 2: They do. It's pretty. So we're doing a lot of
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research in that area right now.
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Speaker 4: What is ketamine treat?
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Speaker 2: Depression, PTSD. There's a whole list.
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Speaker 4: It's a lot of mental.
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Speaker 2: Okay. It blocks some of the, in the form that
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I could even say it in or understand, because I'm
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an RN, I'm not a chemist or a physician anyway,
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but it blocks certain receptors that allow you to feel
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certain things.
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Speaker 4: But you know, even outside of a medical, no bullshit.
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Speaker 3: I did ketamine when I actually got in an accident
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and it was legit. uh but did shrooms i've done
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shrooms love shrooms advocate for it.
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Speaker 2: Again more titrate microdose no no i kind of want
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i want to see the air separate all this yeah
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yeah but no the ketamine like it legit it it's
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an earthy thing it makes you kind of break away
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from really society really the way reality okay so i
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was saying society but you're right reality Okay.
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Speaker 4: Like it really does.
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Speaker 3: It's that third eye that they talk about.
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Speaker 4: Okay.
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Speaker 3: Like you think it's a joke. Everybody could think it's
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a joke, but it's legit. There's something past what we
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actually know or what our brains have developed to know.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you, I've always been kind of a high-strung,
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very fast-paced person. And I have an older brother that
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said something to me that was very impactful. It was
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the only time I'd ever been on ketamine in my life.
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It was actually when I was pregnant. Apparently, it's safe.
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Speaker 4: On ketamine pregnant?
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Speaker 2: I didn't do it myself. So one of my babies
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tried to come at 30 weeks, and so I was flown.
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in a helicopter, you know, really fast to a physician
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here in Dallas and a hospital here in Dallas that
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I could actually have her at that would have, you know,
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the facilities for her. But anyway, for pain, they gave
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me a shot of ketamine. And right before I took off,
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my brother at the time said, I've never seen your
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face so calm and happy before. Why aren't you your
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normal self? And I didn't even realize what he was saying,
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you know, because I'm worried about the baby and all
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kinds of stuff. But apparently, it was so impactful that
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my brother was like, it completely changed my entire structure,
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how I looked at my face. I was so calm
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and at peace with, you know, whatever was going on. Now,
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I couldn't tell you back at that moment what I
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was feeling or whatever. But, you know, I was so
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scared about everything else. But... That was my one time
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on it. And it was so impactful. One person saw
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me and said, I.
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Speaker 3: Had an accident in 2022. They wanted to chop off
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my leg. You can still see the scars. Four-wheeler accident.
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And I remember because nurse being from there, the paramedics
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knew me. And I was like, dude, and I had
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a best friend that killed himself prior to that. I
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was like, man, just don't let me die. Like my friend,
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my friend's name, Joseph. And he's like, no, man, I
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got you. And he leans over me and he says,
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I'm going to get you high as fuck. And he
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gave me ketamine. And man, I remember thinking aliens stole me.
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And I was going all the way through it, but
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I was so happy.
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Speaker 2: They care-flighted you.
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Speaker 4: I didn't feel a thing. My legs are saved.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, they did care-flight me, but same situation. In
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a medical situation, it was amazing.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think like anything else, right, it's gotten
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a bad rap in the media with, you know, some
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overdoses we've heard about, some dangerous things.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's because it goes into excess in our community
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whenever you're... It does.
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Speaker 2: Anything, right? There are people that are always going to
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take anything to an excessive amount and do, you know.
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Speaker 4: Guys, you have to change this.
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Speaker 3: We're talking about sex drugs, so I really want to
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know about... This, you know, I'll be the stop sign.
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Speaker 4: Our conversation today is about sex drugs.
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Speaker 1: Um.
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Speaker 3: medical knowledge of those and what you really do so
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i really want to know the research studies that you
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have in play right now for sex drugs enhancing men's
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capability of doing.
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Speaker 2: So themselves um you're gonna find this very interesting i
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don't have one with men but i have one with
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women right now. Um, and then I also have an STD,
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several STD ones and what's about to hit the market
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is insane for STD testing. Um, but we have several
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women's enhancement. Here's the problem. Here's the difference, right? You can,
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so let's be real here. And I, and cause I can,
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I I've, I probably think more like a man. And
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so I will tell you my aspect and what I
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view my vantage point. A woman gets turned on mentally, emotionally.
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A woman doesn't really necessarily get turned on very much physically. Men,
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you could shake some big titties or big ass in
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their face, right? And it's just an immediate turn on.
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Speaker 4: Depending on if you're gay or not.
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Speaker 2: It's just an immediate turn on.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so I think, you know, it's easy to make
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a drug that attacks that area in the brain for
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a man because it's and I don't want to make it.
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Sounds so simplistic, but it is, right? It's a very simplistic, right?
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For a woman, it's much different. You have to tamper
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with like 10 different areas of her brain, right? You
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have to make sure that she knows the house is
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clean and she's safe and the kids are taken care of. And,
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you know, you've got to make sure to create a
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drug for a woman that touches all those people. It's
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going to take a little research, right? So right now
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there's actually, you know, a lot of research going on
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on female enhancement medications, you know, I'm at an age
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where they say that a woman's sex drive you know,
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pretty much is non-existent. I'm 50 and about to be 50,
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but I have a very high, high sex drive. So
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I went through early menopause because I had an ablation
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done when I was 31, 32 years old. So it
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threw me into early menopause, but I know what you're
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talking about. And as far as the hormones, I am
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on hormone therapy. Okay.
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Speaker 3: So a lot of the people that I work, I
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work at a research clinic, you know, we do, we
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do all the things, but we do a lot of,
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Hormone research.
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Speaker 2: I 100% believe in hormone therapy.
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Speaker 4: And, you know, like, no joke, being a nurse almost
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20 years, no bullshit. I didn't realize women actually had
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to take testosterone too.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people don't.
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Speaker 3: No, I didn't know.
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Speaker 2: And it blew me away. But I take a testosterone
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shot every week, just like you guys probably do.
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Speaker 3: And so do the females at my job.
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Speaker 4: And we joke, and they'll get angry. I'm like, did
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you take your testosterone?
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Speaker 2: No, it's like no joke. It's like no bullshit. If
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I don't take it, if I miss a week, I
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can 100% tell. Yeah, same.
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Speaker 1: 100%.
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Speaker 2: And even me, just being a dude. It does. And
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young looking, I can feel like I can still attack
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the world.
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Speaker 4: Listen, I finally got my levels tested. They were tanked.
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Speaker 3: Cool.
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Speaker 4: Same with a dude.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that you're going to all morning, but
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you just feel like it's fuller.
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Speaker 4: You feel more confident. You do all the things.
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Speaker 2: You do. You feel stronger.
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Speaker 3: It makes it better when that time actually comes.
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Speaker 2: It does. Because especially for a woman, again, I go
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back to it's all mental. If a woman can feel
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still strong and sexy and testosterone brings that on, it
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does actually play into that for a woman because she
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has to have all that. I've been married for over
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20 years. I get it. It's not the same. The
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honeymoon phase is way over with. You can't pull out
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any new tricks.
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Speaker 3: I've seen it all.
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Speaker 2: Times 10, right? So I see where couples start to
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die out, especially as you get older. But we've been
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on hormone therapy, my husband and I, for the past
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10 years, all through our 40s. Most people think we're
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still in our 30s, 40s. A lot of people think
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that we're a lot younger than what we are. And
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I think a lot of that is for that hormone
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therapy and peptides.
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Speaker 3: I'm also a huge advocate of peptides.
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Speaker 2: Oh, man. Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: I'm a huge advocate. Peptides all day.
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Speaker 2: Huge advocate. And a lot of people aren't. And, you know,
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they're not FDA approved.
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Speaker 3: Pharma is trying to disqualify them, if you could say.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, I tell everybody this, and I think
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about this, and I'm probably going to shoot myself in
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the foot. I work for, you know, this industry. If
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you took all of the spend in the United States
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on pharmaceuticals, 70% of that spend is on what?
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Speaker 4: That's why pharma hates us.
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Speaker 2: Is oncology, medication. There's no money in finding a cure
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for cancer. There's no money in finding a cure for.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a cure for it, though.
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Speaker 4: You know there's one, and I'll stab off.
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Speaker 2: There is a lot of homeopath.
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Speaker 4: I'm not stabbing my foot.
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Speaker 3: I'm stabbing all y'all's foot.
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Speaker 2: There's a cure. If you go to other countries that
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don't have the same rate as us, why they use
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the homeopath, they don't discard it because it's... Not FDA approved.
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Speaker 4: And there's a lot of other countries.
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Speaker 3: But that's a lot of like one of my research
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studies that I do, the clinics that I work for,
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we do stem cell research. And I can't advertise too much,
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but we do stem cell research in aiding many autoimmune
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disorders and a lot of what you're talking about. And
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even in erectile dysfunction.
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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 3: And so that's one of the medications I was kind
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of asking. But more so now I want to ask
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about the preventative. Well, hold on.
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Speaker 2: Let me go down my list and jump it all
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over the map. You know Brayton's got a list. You
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know he's got a lot.
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Speaker 3: You know, I have this whole wheel that's spinning.
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Speaker 1: So since we're speaking about erectile dysfunction, everybody knows Viagra.
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So it's basically become part of pop culture at this point.
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But researchers are still trying to create something better and
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something faster, something longer lasting with few side effects. What
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kind of research is happening around libido itself versus just
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physical sexual performance?
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Speaker 2: Again, I think it goes back to if you believe
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in homeopathic remedies, then there's a whole area to digress into.
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But if you're talking more from the clinical FDA aspect, right,
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there are You know, the medications that are out there,
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there are now medications where they're combining those two. But
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just like anything else, and I said this earlier, there's
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always going to be that jackass out there that abuses.
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And so I will tell you, and again, I'm kind
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of an open book and, you know, my husband doesn't
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have social media, so he'll never see this, but, you know,
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even for my husband personally, We have very high sex drives.
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He's 50 years old, right? The same shit doesn't work
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on him. That's been working. It's kind of like when
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you take anything, you get used to hydrocodone. When you
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get used to, right? You always have to keep taking more.
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So that gets dangerous the older you get because there's
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all host of things that go wrong. High blood pressure, right?
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Causes heart palpitations, all kinds of things. So what they're
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trying to do now behind the scenes is to.
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Speaker 3: And two, with new drugs, you never actually have the,
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this is going to have all the side effects.
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Speaker 4: Because it's got to be tested.
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Speaker 2: You don't know yet, right? Well, and you, which is
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what I do. I own a company that runs the
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clinical trials on it.
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Speaker 4: Right, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: And, you know, you, I will tell you there's, although
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everybody would love to say that literature is 100%, you know,
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there's a lot of things that, you know, get downplayed, right?
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A lot of... And if you read any drug, every
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side effect scares you to death. You hear it on
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every single one. I think what they're trying to do
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is create dosages behind the scenes that impact men that
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have been on it for a while and that maybe
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are a little more used to it without creating the
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side effects of the high blood pressure and things like that.
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But just in the very rawest form. What happens, you're
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literally taking a drug to make blood flow to that area.
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And so obviously that's going to cause a host of
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side effects. They are doing stuff for women as well.
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There are women that take Viagra. There are women that
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take variations of Cialis. They are creating, there's clinical trials
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right now for different versions of those for women behind
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the scenes. But again, what's hard about women is it's
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not attacking that one pleasure center in the brain. And
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that's what's a little bit different.
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Speaker 3: What is that drug in that?
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Speaker 4: Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Speaker 3: It starts with an R, but it's rugio, rugio, ru...
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It starts with an R. I thought maybe I would
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catch on if I said it, so don't make me
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sound crazy. But there's a new one that triggers not
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just the blood flow, but it's something in your brain
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that it triggers. And it's called, I want to say
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it's Rugio.
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Speaker 4: R-U-G-I-O.
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Speaker 3: And it might.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what I mean. That's what they're working
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on now is where it's hitting different areas of the
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brain and not just that one pleasure center that it
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did before. Basically, you know, like I said, men are
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getting used to it now, right? They're getting not immune
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to it, but it takes more and more energy. to
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get the erection now. And so they're having to take
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mega doses. And I can't tell you just even in
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my ER background, how many times I see men come
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into the ER. that it's one of the most horrifying
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things you'll ever see because you know what we have
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to do for that.
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Speaker 4: You have to stick a fucking needle in their penis
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and draw the blood out.
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Speaker 2: We have to stick a needle in their penis and
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literally the fluids just.
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Speaker 3: Squirt across the room.
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Speaker 2: It'll kill you if you don't treat it. All the
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blood is pumping right there.
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Speaker 4: Two needles in each side. You know you have your
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pee hole.
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Speaker 2: And we're having to hold it down.
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Speaker 4: You're squeezing that blood out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no joke. And that's because it's taking men
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more and more– Of those pills to get it. And
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they don't know how much to take because they're taking
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more than recommended dose.
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Speaker 4: Well, they took some this morning, but then this afternoon.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:14
Speaker 2: And so I've seen some really bad, bad, bad things
19:18
happen to men that have come in with too much.
19:21
Speaker 4: I haven't seen too many bad, but I've had to
19:22
stick a couple needles in some people's ears.
19:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:25
Speaker 2: I mean, you could die from it. I mean, you know,
19:27
if you leave it untreated, it's definitely lethal.
19:29
Speaker 4: Over four hours of a hard-on, you have to go
19:31
to the ER.
19:32
Speaker 1: Right.
19:32
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:33
Speaker 1: And I read something recently, too, and I was telling
19:35
him this because Cialis, I'd read something about Cialis now.
19:38
They've done some studies with ophthalmologists and it causes long-term glaucoma.
19:45
Speaker 2: Cialis.
19:46
Speaker 4: And I was like, what?
19:47
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'll stop taking that. Man.
19:50
Speaker 2: Here's what my husband said about that. If I couldn't
19:53
have sex, I don't give a fuck if I could
19:55
see or not. He's like, take my side away. I
19:59
would rather be able... To fuck other than have my sight.
20:03
Speaker 3: Seriously.
20:04
Speaker 2: So when I heard that, I was like, okay, men
20:07
don't care. Men do not care. They're not going to care.
20:11
Speaker 4: And I'm going to fuck all day with my eyes closed.
20:13
Speaker 2: He said, I'd rather be blind. And so they don't care.
20:18
And that is why they're, you know, one of the
20:21
number one most sold drugs on the market. Right. Because men,
20:25
they just don't care what the side effects are. So
20:28
you can keep pumping. So there's not a lot of
20:30
research that's going into that anymore other than making the
20:33
doses a little bit higher. A lot of research is
20:35
going into women because, you know, you got all these
20:39
men now with heart problems, women that they can't find
20:41
that actually want to fuck them anymore. And they don't
20:43
realize that's not a medication. There's a lot of change
20:46
that needs to be.
20:46
Speaker 3: Made culturally, societally-wise. You get glaucoma from the CLA, smoke
20:52
some weed.
20:53
Speaker 4: It makes it go down. Oh, my God. So I
20:56
have a question.
20:56
Speaker 3: I'm putting that out there.
20:57
Speaker 2: There is a pill that's being created now, actually some
21:00
eye drops as well, that is going to correct pretty
21:03
much any vision that we have wrong right now. Like marijuana.
21:08
There's some different things on the market right now.
21:10
Speaker 1: I have a question about this, and I don't know
21:12
if it's specifically any clinical trials with you, but there
21:14
has to be some clinical trials. But for erectile dysfunction
21:18
is Trimax. You know what Trimax is? Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's
21:21
not good shit. What?
21:23
Speaker 4: It's not good stuff.
21:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done it before. And, you know, there's
21:25
one time I was really, really scared. And like you said,
21:27
if it goes over four hours, like, you know, I'm
21:29
freaking out. And then the antidote to it is Afrin. Like,
21:34
it just makes it go away.
21:35
Speaker 2: It's wild.
21:35
Speaker 3: It's not good.
21:36
Speaker 1: But like, is that like something that's FDA approved or
21:39
is that in clinical trials or like?
21:41
Speaker 2: So if you don't see the FDA approved on it
21:43
means there's no clinical trials going on because you don't
21:45
have to.
21:46
Speaker 3: Right.
21:47
Speaker 2: You have to do the clinical trials to get it
21:48
FDA approved. It doesn't mean it's not good.
21:50
Speaker 1: Right.
21:51
Speaker 2: It just means that it's such a controversial... thing that
21:56
you aren't going to be able to find people to
21:58
run clinical trials on it. And you have to deal
22:00
with the red tape of getting it FDA approved. The
22:03
good thing about now peptides and what you do and
22:07
all the things that aren't FDA approved is there's now
22:09
this mistrust against the FDA. So people are like, I
22:12
don't really care if it's FDA approved or not. And
22:14
so they're just taking it. Listen, I'm a nurse and
22:17
I work in this industry. There's a lot of peptides
22:19
I take that are not FDA approved. There are a
22:21
lot of homeopathic things I take that are not FDA approved.
22:25
And it's not that I have a mistrust or not
22:27
a mistrust. I do my own research now. And that's
22:29
the difference in today versus 20 years ago. We can
22:33
now research things on our own. And so I really
22:36
feel like things like the FDA are going to be
22:37
obsolete in another five to 10 years because nobody gives
22:41
a shit if it's FDA approved or not anymore, right?
22:44
And what does that even mean anymore? Because- We can
22:47
take our bread from this country, for example, and over
22:50
in France, it's considered cake because it's got so much
22:53
sugar in it, right?
22:54
Speaker 4: Correct.
22:56
Speaker 2: No other countries accept the amount of shit we're piling
23:00
into our food. So we allow that poison, but we're
23:03
not going to allow some like THC- CBD-infused shit to
23:08
be passed by the FDA, but will allow the crap
23:12
that's pesticides. So again, you got to remember, and I
23:17
think if we've learned anything in the last two years,
23:19
money talks, right? There's no science-backed magic guru behind the scenes.
23:25
It's just making everything okay. Like if it's FDA approved,
23:28
it's going to be... I think now everybody, we have
23:30
a mistrust for it, right? And so... Whether it's warranted
23:34
or not, I think that's opened the industry now for
23:37
all of the homeopathic stuff and the things that aren't
23:39
FDA approved.
23:40
Speaker 3: I agree.
23:40
Speaker 2: So I think if it works for you and you
23:43
have your own doctor notified. I don't understand why people
23:47
don't tell their doctors that they don't do this shit.
23:49
Here's the thing. It's not an attorney. It's not your
23:52
probation officer. You're not in trouble. You're not in trouble.
23:56
We just want to know because it does counteract with
23:59
other stuff.
23:59
Speaker 4: That they make. And we can tell you what to
24:01
do better.
24:01
Speaker 2: And what works with it. I will tell you that.
24:04
Speaker 4: We're not going to tell you necessarily to stop. We'll
24:05
tell you what works with it.
24:07
Speaker 2: I will definitely not tell you who, but my peptides
24:09
actually come from a physician. That's a good friend of mine.
24:13
Speaker 4: I will do the same.
24:15
Speaker 2: Sell me my peptides.
24:18
Speaker 3: Went to a seminar and legit has went to both
24:21
of these, watch them break down, watch them do their molecule, their,
24:24
their whole, their whole thing.
24:26
Speaker 4: And I get them from her two websites. So same thing.
24:29
Speaker 2: And I think, you know, even what you were talking about,
24:31
what you do earlier, the stem cell. Yeah. And you know,
24:35
in this country, it's, The way we have to speak
24:39
about it and dance around it, it's kind of crazy.
24:41
But you go down to Mexico, you go down to
24:43
any of those.
24:43
Speaker 4: South American countries. Actually, for my company, we can't actually.
24:46
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't say it because I didn't know
24:48
if you could.
24:49
Speaker 3: I can talk about it, but I can't really advertise
24:53
and promote it. Fuck yeah, I can talk about it
24:54
because that's what I do. That's my job. I do
24:56
stem cell research. I do infusions. We do pain procedures.
25:00
I can't tell you the benefits. I can't tell you
25:02
the people that we treat. I can't tell you all
25:04
those things, but I can talk about it. So I
25:06
can't actually promote it.
25:08
Speaker 2: But if you actually read, and I know you know
25:11
this better than anybody, the clinical trials that are going
25:14
on in the South American countries around symptom therapy, it
25:17
is nearly like drinking out of the fountain of youth.
25:22
Speaker 3: The amount of people that our company treats in autoimmune disorders,
25:29
and I'm not going to specify the benefits from it,
25:32
it's coming.
25:33
Speaker 4: It's coming. So it's coming.
25:35
Speaker 2: And again, I go back to there's no money in
25:37
finding a cure for it. That's why we don't allow it.
25:40
Speaker 4: We band-aid it.
25:41
Speaker 3: And I'm relating that to even the things that I
25:43
do at my facility or the things that we do
25:47
also relate to your sexual functions.
25:50
Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. In some of the ways that we do them.
25:54
Speaker 2: I will tell you 100% peptides and hormone therapy probably
25:59
changed my life. I mean, I mean, I think. There's
26:03
so many things. I probably would have gotten divorced back then. Seriously,
26:07
if you think about all the things you had down,
26:09
I mean, the peptides and hormones literally still made me
26:13
feel like I was 20, 25. And because I project
26:16
that out, I projected positivity. He did too, right? All
26:19
the things that starts breaking down marriages. So you look
26:22
at it too, and it's not just about the outward
26:25
appearance or even how we feel like this is life
26:28
changing things that are out there that are prolonging marriages
26:31
and prolonging people's lives. And you know, giving people another
26:36
couple of years with their loved one and not just
26:38
dying and wasting away on chemo. They're actually living, right?
26:43
Speaker 3: Their life.
26:43
Speaker 2: So again, because I'm a nurse and I work in
26:45
this industry, I'm like, yeah, I can't say too much.
26:48
I'm not going to, I'm not going to bite the
26:50
hand that feeds me, right? But I'm also intelligent enough
26:55
to know that I will do my research in other
26:56
areas and I know what works and what doesn't work. Right.
27:00
And so, We lag behind in this country for a reason.
27:05
It is benefiting several people's pocket, right? And several companies'
27:09
pockets in this country to make sure that we lag behind.
27:12
We don't belong to anything anymore, right? We dropped the WHO.
27:15
I mean, you think about all of the research that
27:19
we had in place now.
27:20
Speaker 3: It's just a lot of it's gone.
27:21
Speaker 2: You're right.
27:21
Speaker 4: We dropped the WHO and we have the how and
27:23
how much.
27:23
Speaker 2: Yeah.
27:25
Speaker 1: So if somebody's interested in, like we're talking about clinical trials,
27:29
Like with your company, if somebody is interested in doing
27:31
clinical trials, how do they go about that?
27:34
Speaker 2: I literally have a waiting list right now. Physicians that
27:37
want to come into the network. One word of mouth
27:41
to if you, you know, again, it's always if you
27:43
know somebody. Right. But a lot of these physicians, like
27:47
say pain doctors, for example, a lot of them. Yeah,
27:50
they will have the reps come in and just approach
27:53
them directly. But I go out and seek you. I
27:56
will tell you that my lowest level facility last year,
27:59
I made that clinic $ 30, 000 just extra revenue off the
28:03
top of what they did. They didn't have to lift
28:05
a finger, right? It was just because they allowed me
28:07
to do clinical trials. I made $ 1. 2 million off of
28:10
one facility last year of revenue we brought in. Just
28:13
extra money that they did from running clinical trials, right?
28:16
So it is now that, you know, the insurance industry
28:20
is changing. People are getting less for patients coming in, right?
28:24
Reimbursements lower. Now these physicians are trying to find alternate
28:27
ways to make money. Everybody went into the Botox, right?
28:31
And that's still... huge everybody's doing that and there's so
28:35
much research in that industry that is the number one
28:38
research industry why because look at it look at all
28:42
the people that spend you know the money on the
28:44
industry but um.
28:47
Speaker 4: You gotta frame because man.
28:48
Speaker 2: But you can make some good money and not only
28:50
that you're bringing life-saving measures to communities like i have
28:54
a community in east texas They're not able to get,
28:57
they have very rural health care. I bring clinical trials
29:01
in there that they would have to drive hours to
29:04
or maybe fly to other states to get. So, you know,
29:07
if a physician's interested, I could always, you know, help navigate.
29:10
But I think start with clinicaltrials.gov. Look at all the industries.
29:15
Look at all the people that are out there, pharmaceutical companies.
29:18
But any pharmaceutical rep that you have come in the building,
29:21
grab them and say, hey, put me in touch with
29:22
somebody that does the research in your company. and they'll
29:26
put them in touch. They're always looking for sites.
29:28
Speaker 1: Cool.
29:28
Speaker 2: Do research. Nice.
29:30
Speaker 1: All right, so we're going to play a segment, which
29:31
is kind of like a game. It's our last segment,
29:34
and it's called Myth or Truth. And I'm going to
29:36
ask you questions, and you tell me if it's a
29:37
myth or a truth.
29:38
Speaker 2: Okay. All right. I'm going to have to get up
29:41
and run around and take my shirt off. Not truth
29:44
or dare. Okay. Don't trust me.
29:45
Speaker 3: I'm going to take your shirt off for the rest
29:46
of this.
29:46
Speaker 4: Okay, no other games.
29:49
Speaker 1: All right. So we've learned a lot. Now we're going
29:50
to see how quickly, you know, we clean up misinformation
29:53
that we have learned just in the past. So I'm
29:56
going to give you a statement. You have to have
29:57
about five seconds to tell me myth or truth and
29:59
explain yourself. So clinical trial participants are basically human guinea pigs.
30:06
Speaker 2: That's definitely false.
30:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
30:09
Speaker 2: It is funny that when you approach a certain age group,
30:14
they think that I'm going to clone them if I
30:16
come take a sample from their nose. No, why would
30:20
anybody want to clone you? Why would you want two
30:23
of you? And I'm not trying to be rude, but
30:25
you're 85 and sick. Okay, but anyway. No, absolutely not.
30:31
A lot of the clinical trials that we do are
30:32
actually just we want samples that if you're sick and
30:35
you have flu, we'll pay you $ 100 and let us
30:38
take a sample of your nose, a swab of your nose,
30:40
and we package it and send it on its way.
30:42
And that's because there's so many medications out on the market,
30:45
over-the-counter stuff. They're constantly testing people that had the flu
30:49
if the medication's going to work, right, for the symptoms.
30:51
So thousands upon thousands of samples get collected every year
30:55
of flu, COVID, strep, all those common things, right? So
30:59
that's a lot of what we do. And then on
31:01
top of that, then you start removing in your medications
31:04
and things like that. It just goes up from there.
31:06
So it's a complete myth.
31:08
Speaker 3: Okay.
31:09
Speaker 2: And everybody has to sign a consent. If you do
31:11
not sign a consent form, we're not allowed to take
31:13
anything from you. And that consent states what we're doing,
31:17
where the final sample is going to, how we're doing it, right?
31:21
It lists out. I mean, it's a highly regulated industry.
31:24
So that consent has to be in place. Okay.
31:27
Speaker 1: You can make thousands of dollars participating in clinical trials. Yeah.
31:31
Speaker 2: You actually can. That is true. There you go.
31:33
Speaker 1: There's your part-time job, Cody.
31:35
Speaker 2: That is true. Now, again, you have to think. If
31:38
you're in a clinical trial.
31:40
Speaker 3: Patient and nurse.
31:41
Speaker 2: If you're in a clinical trial that's paying you thousands
31:44
of dollars, you're probably pretty sick with something, right?
31:46
Speaker 3: Or they're in a hospital for a couple days.
31:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got something that is probably outside the norm.
31:53
And so those thousands of dollars, you get not only that,
31:56
but you get your medication for free. You get all
31:58
your traveling for free. They'll pay for you to go
32:02
if you have to fly to get the treatment or whatever.
32:05
Speaker 4: Usually more than a month's salary.
32:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you can get paid very well. Like I said,
32:09
just in general, if you walk into a clinic right
32:11
now that I'm at and we ask you to take
32:13
a nose sample, just a swab of your nose, we
32:15
give you $ 100.
32:16
Speaker 1: Okay.
32:17
Speaker 2: We ask you to take a self-collected STI sample. You
32:19
go in the bathroom and do it yourself, $ 200.
32:21
Speaker 1: Okay.
32:23
Speaker 2: Let me see.
32:25
Speaker 4: Let me pull it out of here.
32:28
Speaker 3: There's nothing there at all.
32:31
Speaker 1: You could test a sex drug and receive a placebo
32:34
the entire time.
32:34
Speaker 2: You can, yes.
32:35
Speaker 4: Yes, you can.
32:37
Speaker 3: 100%.
32:37
Speaker 2: Any drugs.
32:38
Speaker 4: That is the thing, placebos and the regular drugs.
32:40
Speaker 2: Here's the sad thing. You can also receive cancer treatment
32:43
and be receiving a placebo the whole time. Yeah. Okay.
32:47
Speaker 4: Did not know that.
32:48
Speaker 1: And finally, once you sign up for a study, are
32:50
you required to finish it?
32:51
Speaker 2: No, no. The patient always has ultimate say. You can
32:54
back out at any point, even after I pay you.
32:57
I'm not going to pay you until I get your sample.
32:59
But even if I paid you once and you were
33:02
supposed to come back four times, you still get to
33:04
keep that. Yeah. No, it's 100 percent the patient participation.
33:08
Speaker 3: Cool.
33:08
Speaker 1: And then so what right now happening in clinical trials
33:12
genuinely excites you?
33:15
Speaker 2: I think you guys have probably heard a little bit about,
33:17
and especially in this country, we're dealing a lot with
33:20
fatty livers right now, right? They say about 70% of
33:22
our population walks around with some type of fatty liver disease. More,
33:27
I would say about 50% of the clinical trials going
33:29
on right now are NASH and MASH studies where we're
33:32
actually scanning your liver. We're telling you exactly what's wrong
33:36
with it. And we're taking samples of it sometimes. And
33:40
we are developing medications. If we don't get a handle
33:45
on this very soon, we are going to start dying
33:48
off in huge rates in this country due to fatty liver.
33:52
Already right now, it's creating such a burden on the hospitals,
33:56
the healthcare industry. If we don't get that under wraps soon. Now,
34:00
that's all your fun drugs, though. All your GLPs, the
34:02
one we're losing all this weight on, right?
34:04
Speaker 1: Yeah.
34:04
Speaker 2: So all of those drugs are being tested right now
34:08
in clinical trials. So what we have now, just multiply
34:12
that times 100 is what we're about to have on
34:13
the market, you know, this time next year. And so,
34:16
you know, there's a lot of fun stuff that comes
34:18
out of that. We get a lot of things, but
34:20
I mean, AI is really changing the foundation of The
34:24
landscape of health care right now, it is predicted in
34:26
our industry in about three years, you will be able
34:29
to walk into an ER. There won't be any nurses.
34:32
You'll stand in one of those things like you do
34:34
at the airport. They're going to scan you from head
34:36
to toe. No labs, no other further. And they're going
34:40
to tell you everything that's wrong with you.
34:42
Speaker 3: Because an AI robot, well, it could miss or fuck
34:46
you up. And then there's no fix.
34:48
Speaker 2: Well, they don't have to take your blood.
34:50
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.
34:51
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying.
34:52
Speaker 3: That's the reason being there's no labs there because they can't.
34:56
They can't put nurses and lab techs out of business.
34:59
Speaker 4: Right.
35:00
Speaker 3: You go to an ER that you know that it's
35:02
only robots because you're not going to get the extensive
35:06
care that you may need because you might need an
35:08
IV or labs. Because the robots are only going to.
35:12
Speaker 2: Be able to scan you. There's actually ERs right now
35:15
that are doing it. And it's scary for me as
35:17
a nurse. My daughter's a nurse in school, and I
35:20
hate that because that was my clinical background. But there
35:23
are hospitals now that are testing it out. I'm actually
35:26
part of several peer reviews that we have clinics now
35:30
that are doing it completely robotic from up front.
35:33
Speaker 4: IVs too?
35:34
Speaker 2: You insert your... No, we don't do that.
35:37
Speaker 3: But you know, we.
35:38
Speaker 2: Have robots that do surgery right now. Starting an IV
35:41
is nothing to a robot. We do it all the time.
35:43
Speaker 4: That blows my mind too.
35:45
Speaker 2: We have robots. So I don't know if you've ever
35:47
been back there in surgery before when they do it,
35:49
but you know, you, the physician sticks his hand in
35:53
the gloves and the robotic gloves and he's, And everything
35:57
he does, the robot is mimicking. But used to when
36:00
you had scars that look like this, they look like
36:03
this now, right? Because the robot can sew you up.
36:07
And it's like, it's nothing, right? Now, again, I'm not
36:11
all for it. I don't think I'm telling you this
36:13
and I'm promoting it in any way. I'm just telling
36:15
you what's actually going on. I'm very nervous about AI
36:19
and I'm very scared because I think about I had
36:21
three babies. I would not want a cold robot tanned.
36:25
down here with me coddling my baby and pulling my
36:28
baby out of me. It would just not work well. However,
36:32
I'm sure they're going to come up with something, right?
36:34
Because it is literally the wave of the future. We
36:37
have so many hospitals and physician offices right now that
36:41
are in prototypes. They are doing basically trials right now
36:45
on how AI is going to change the landscape of
36:47
the hospital. And it's scary. It's scary, but it's cutting
36:50
ER times down from 10 hours to an hour in
36:54
these hospitals. There's a lot of good, but I hate
36:57
it for my industry because that's my people that are
36:59
going to be out of jobs if this happens the
37:02
way they say it's going to happen. So it is scary,
37:05
but it's interesting too, right? What's scary is part about
37:08
AI to me is... That we didn't just discover it.
37:11
Or we didn't just fix it. It just got discovered again, supposedly, right?
37:17
We didn't just invent it, basically.
37:19
Speaker 3: Right.
37:19
Speaker 2: That's the scariest part about it.
37:21
Speaker 4: We helped it develop, basically. That's wild. I mean, it
37:24
was developed, but we helped it present itself.
37:28
Speaker 2: Which, to me... proves the whole pyramid theory, you know,
37:32
that I think there was probably advanced civilizations at one point. Oh,
37:36
completely imploded.
37:37
Speaker 1: By blocks and rolling.
37:39
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:39
Speaker 3: It's completely imploded at one time.
37:42
Speaker 2: We just started back over again.
37:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.
37:45
Speaker 3: So, wow.
37:47
Speaker 4: That's wild.
37:47
Speaker 1: Well, we're going to wrap up now. I just want
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to thank you so much for coming on the show.
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I learned so much. Thank you for letting us invade
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your space and pick your brain about this. I think
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it's going to be a great episode for our listeners
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and for our watchers and all that. And before we go,
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I want to ask you, what is your unspoken truth?
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Speaker 2: Oh, my God. Let's see. You know, I am a
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mother of three, so I have to be very careful
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because I know they're probably going to watch my very
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first podcast that I've ever been on and ever seen before.
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So I think being an empty nester now for the
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first time, I've been a mom since I was 21.
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So I had to figure out who I was the
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past couple of years. And I'm a lot different than
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what I thought I was. I love gardening. I never
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would have thought. People used to think I didn't like animals.
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I'm like the biggest animal lover now you've ever seen.
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So there's so many things that I think my unspoken
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truth is I'm a little bit, I think... more gentler
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and a little bit more homier behind the scenes than
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I thought I even was. I think it's surprised people
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the last couple of years. You know, you really struggle
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with that identity crisis when your kids leave because you
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just don't know who you are, what to do with yourself.
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So I think my unspoken truth is I'm a little bit,
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I think, nerdier and softer by the scenes than what
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I originally, I think if you see my garden, you
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would be like, what the It doesn't really jive with
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that girl that 10 years ago was on the back
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of the boat, funneling beer. It doesn't really jive, right?
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But I think, yeah, so it's kind of my unspoken truth.
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I'm a little bit nerdier behind the scenes than I
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think most people anticipated.
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Speaker 1: And if our listeners and watchers want to look up
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your company, find out more about your company, where can
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they find that at?
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Speaker 2: Um, they can look up Alera clinical.com. Um, and we
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have a website up Alera.com and, um, just email me,
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call me directly. I'm on there and I'd love to
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love to chat with anyone, let them know how it
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works and, uh, how they can become involved. Awesome.
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Speaker 1: Well, again, thank you so much for being on the show.
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Speaker 2: We really, really glad to have you.
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Speaker 1: Yes. And don't forget to like subscribe and check us
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out on all the social media. It's going to be
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at unspoken Dallas. Of course, our website is at unspokendallas.com
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and TikTok, all the fun things. We've got some great
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stuff coming up.
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Speaker 4: Thank you for watching.
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Speaker 1: Thank you for listening.
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Speaker 4: Peace out, guys.
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Speaker 3: See you.
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Speaker 4: We'll see you next time.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: Bye-bye.
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me.
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Speaker 2: Thank you. It was so much fun. I loved it.