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- 0:10[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Mom's Read podcast.
- 0:11[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Ekinzy and I'm Kaylee and we have a little bit of a different episode today.
- 0:16[SPEAKER_01]: We have page from front page media.
- 0:19[SPEAKER_01]: If you've seen all over Instagram, she runs all kinds of bookish events and we're going to kind of pick her brain on how does work.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_01]: So how did you get started with front page media?
- 0:33[SPEAKER_01]: It's honestly a crazy story, um, which I feel like we love to hear it.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_01]: It's really not that crazy.
- 0:39[SPEAKER_01]: It happens to a lot more people than you think.
- 0:41[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I got laid off from my job, uh, it around Christmas of 2024.
- 0:46[SPEAKER_01]: And I was hosting, um, the book fairs with the brewery.
- 0:51[SPEAKER_01]: I was working at, and um, I just decided to kind of run with it and do it myself.
- 0:57[SPEAKER_01]: So I just kind of ran with it and I never looked back.
- 1:00[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's so fun.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_01]: So as you're background in like social media or a bit planning.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my background's in social media marketing.
- 1:09[SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing that for probably three years now and it's been to my company.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_01]: So I do a lot of the graphic design.
- 1:16[SPEAKER_01]: All of that's me.
- 1:17[SPEAKER_01]: I do all of the event planning and logistics myself.
- 1:20[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I love that.
- 1:23[UNKNOWN]: My
- 1:23[SPEAKER_01]: I own a coffee shop in Bakery and William Stin and my, it came about because I got laid off.
- 1:32[SPEAKER_01]: So, we, me and my husband run out, we do everything.
- 1:36[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's crazy.
- 1:39[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot.
- 1:42[SPEAKER_01]: So, did kind of the front page media is that what you initially started with or did it kind of grow into that once you kind of started freelancing a little bit more.
- 1:49[SPEAKER_01]: From page media, actually was my social media company.
- 1:53[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.
- 1:54[SPEAKER_01]: We're the name came from within the end.
- 1:58[SPEAKER_01]: But then when I started doing the book fairs, I just kept it because I was like, front page, it kind of still worked.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love it.
- 2:05[SPEAKER_01]: It started out as social media and now we do book fairs.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
- 2:09[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think are some like skills that you definitely need when hosting and planning events of like this
- 2:19[SPEAKER_01]: who definitely patients, definitely patients a lot of energy.
- 2:27[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be able to go for, honestly, days at a time.
- 2:32[SPEAKER_01]: There's been,
- 2:34[SPEAKER_01]: times that I've posted an event I didn't sleep for three days prior because I want to redoing logistics and all that stuff I would definitely say yeah well can you kind of walk us through like with the bigger events that you host whether it's the author panels or just like the book fair events that you host like what the process of that looks like and kind of I guess like how do you get authors and how does that whole thing even come about?
- 2:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so a lot of cold calling, a lot of cold emailing, a lot of cold DMAing on Instagram, a lot of the time I will reach out via Instagram.
- 3:09[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of authors manage their own account, so it's really easy in that aspect, but in terms of finding a traditionally published author, like we just did a talk with Jessica Peterson, back beginning of February, and I contacted her over email.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: And so like do you start with like the authors and then kind of plan like how do you decide what that looks like for like the book event side of things.
- 3:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, it's really, whoever's available and whoever wants to join, it terms like I kind of just open the markets to everybody, anybody could sign up if you want to join.
- 3:46[SPEAKER_01]: And then I kind of go from there, but in terms of like the panels and stuff, I'll work with my moderator will kind of come up with a theme or.
- 3:56[SPEAKER_01]: um, if we want to do just romance books or if we want to do a fantasy author panel, um, like for the sports romance book fair, we have coming on and obviously that panel is focused all around sports romance.
- 4:07[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 4:08[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that's kind of how the brain works for that.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 4:12[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I have an idea for you.
- 4:14[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
- 4:15[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can go together on this.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready.
- 4:18[SPEAKER_01]: The Greenville swamp rabbits.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we just went to a game on.
- 4:24[SPEAKER_01]: You did.
- 4:26[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, why have we not done a hockey event?
- 4:30[SPEAKER_01]: You know?
- 4:32[SPEAKER_01]: because all the hockey book talk and all the hockey books are all of the rage, so they actually reached out to me.
- 4:41[SPEAKER_01]: I think a few, when I started planning the Charlotte Hornet's thing, who I've been in touch with, but the Hornets connected me with them.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, it's in, it's in the works.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank you.
- 4:56[SPEAKER_01]: If you need anything girl, we are here.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_01]: I am a frequent flyer of the Greenville Swamp Rabbits.
- 5:02[SPEAKER_01]: We did.
- 5:03[SPEAKER_01]: They had like an event after the game where we could go on the ice and skate with the players.
- 5:09[SPEAKER_01]: I bet so cool.
- 5:10[SPEAKER_01]: And that was fantastic.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
- 5:13[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to give a little shameless plug about the sports event that's coming up at this Harley Hornet's game?
- 5:20[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to kind of give a little rundown of what that's going to look like?
- 5:22[SPEAKER_01]: So on March 28th at the Charlotte Hornet scheme at the Spectrum Center in uptown, we are doing a sports romance book fair full of sports romance, all different kinds of genres in terms of that.
- 5:38[SPEAKER_01]: We've got hockey, we've got basketball, we've got baseball, we have pickleball, we even have um,
- 5:45[SPEAKER_01]: what fly fishing romance book, come on.
- 5:49[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
- 5:50[SPEAKER_01]: There's even writing books specifically for this event.
- 5:53[SPEAKER_01]: I know some stuff together for this event.
- 5:56[SPEAKER_01]: Some of them have just debut novels coming out for this event specifically.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_01]: And then during the event, we're doing a fun panel with
- 6:06[SPEAKER_01]: Liz Tom Ford, Lauren Blakely, Chelsea Curdo, all these games on the court from 2 to 3 p.m. And then that evening, we're going to all head to the Charlotte Hornets game.
- 6:19[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited.
- 6:22[SPEAKER_01]: We saw Liz talk forward in
- 6:25[SPEAKER_01]: At Eagle Lot.
- 6:27[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah, that was at Eagle Lot.
- 6:28[SPEAKER_01]: When we went, we go to Eagle Lot in Atlanta a lot for book events, just because we don't really have a ton of like Greenville indie book stores at like host authors like that.
- 6:38[SPEAKER_01]: And it I'm obsessed.
- 6:39[SPEAKER_01]: I'm obsessed with the Wendy city series.
- 6:41[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just a little making my way through it.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_01]: I'm making my way through my reread right now in time for the book coming out next Tuesday and I'm like I'm so excited for that one.
- 6:53[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so excited for that one.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'm reading play along again right now, which ones your favorite
- 6:59[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I honestly, I just started the first one.
- 7:02[SPEAKER_01]: I have so many you guys don't understand.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_01]: I have so many books that I have to read because of all the panels and the.
- 7:09[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, like I just finished reading female fantasy by I'm on her.
- 7:24[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I need, I bought the, is it Chelsea Tierto books.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_01]: I just bought her books because I want to read them their hockey.
- 7:35[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
- 7:37[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm all about hockey right now.
- 7:40[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel like that kind of adds to your workload a little bit, especially with authors that you might not have read before.
- 7:46[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely does.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_01]: I will say sometimes it kind of feels like I'm doing a book report like I have, but audible is my it's on my side.
- 7:59[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
- 8:01[SPEAKER_01]: audio book early for a while.
- 8:03[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we kind of feel this thing because we interview some authors as well and so like I have to read I feel like I have to read like all of their books, so I can ask hold back log about all of their books, you know, and so I'm like hurrying up to read we have we just got sent a book that we're interviewing about in like two weeks and I'm like oh and it's a physical book and I'm like oh, I'm gonna read that because I have three years to read
- 8:30[SPEAKER_01]: So what has been your favorite event that you have hosted so far?
- 8:35[SPEAKER_01]: I have to say all of them have been so fun to host all of the venues have been so nice and easy to work with.
- 8:48[SPEAKER_01]: There's in the vendors have been so nice and easy to work with.
- 8:52[SPEAKER_01]: But I think my favorite would probably be like Wilmington or Charleston because we kind of turned it into a fun beach weekend.
- 9:00[SPEAKER_01]: But all of them are just like really fun girls weekend.
- 9:03[SPEAKER_01]: My mom comes down to help for most of them.
- 9:05[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll pick like something we haven't done before in the city to do on Sunday for the evening.
- 9:11[SPEAKER_01]: I actually just had some friends fly down for the Charlotte book fair at the beginning of February and we did like a dinner on Friday and then we
- 9:21[SPEAKER_00]: That's so fun.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_01]: The next green bill one is the 21st, right?
- 9:26[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yep.
- 9:28[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to head over there.
- 9:30[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, for sure.
- 9:31[SPEAKER_01]: We want to head because we live in Anderson, which is about 39 at about five in green bill.
- 9:36[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going the next weekend to the Charlotte one excited.
- 9:39[SPEAKER_01]: It's like our first actual, like, big, big event and we're so excited because we've never been to like a book fair like that before.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be so fun and different because it's with the game and it's out there.
- 9:55[SPEAKER_01]: Do you like coffee?
- 9:58[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was going to say, well, you have to come to my coffee shop whenever you're in growth.
- 10:05[SPEAKER_01]: I was coming to the coffee shop, but unfortunately, I'm not a caffeine girl.
- 10:08[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even drink energy drinks like every day.
- 10:10[SPEAKER_00]: That's respectable.
- 10:11[SPEAKER_00]: I don't drink energy drinks.
- 10:12[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say, do you eat sweets?
- 10:13[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 10:14[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
- 10:17[SPEAKER_01]: We have tons of those.
- 10:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 10:19[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we're going to.
- 10:20[SPEAKER_01]: So what are some of your bucketless items as a bookish event planner?
- 10:25[SPEAKER_01]: What are some things that you hope one day to be able to do?
- 10:30[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would like to be able to take this everywhere.
- 10:34[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to be able to travel to states and cities I've never been to.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of my bucket list goals with the sports romance book fairs that I'm trying to do and to do a book fair at a Dallas Maverick scheme because.
- 10:53[SPEAKER_01]: Then owns the Dallas Mavericks, and I'm obsessed with Shark Tank.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: So I could be picked up by Shark Tank.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_01]: I would love that.
- 11:02[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my gosh.
- 11:04[SPEAKER_01]: Green big girl, green big.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 11:06[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my gosh.
- 11:07[SPEAKER_01]: Shameless plug.
- 11:08[SPEAKER_01]: One of ours is the host and author panel.
- 11:10[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're looking for anybody.
- 11:13[SPEAKER_01]: We're available all the same ones for us.
- 11:16[SPEAKER_01]: All the same ones for us.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's so funny.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_01]: What is the hardest part about running front page media?
- 11:24[SPEAKER_01]: Is it like booking authors, booking events, planning?
- 11:27[SPEAKER_01]: I think the hardest part would be like because most of my events take place outside.
- 11:33[SPEAKER_01]: I never know what the weather is going to be in the South, like in the Carolina, you know, what it's going to be literally wake up and step outside.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_01]: So that's more exactly.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_01]: So we've had some close calls with the weather.
- 11:49[SPEAKER_01]: All the vendors are really cool and flexible.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_01]: They are really understanding about it.
- 11:54[SPEAKER_01]: So that's been great.
- 11:57[SPEAKER_01]: It could be frustrating when you like, or it's calling for sun and then you wake up.
- 12:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a hundred degrees outside than we're all getting cooked.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_01]: Would you say that people attending are pretty full?
- 12:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're pretty flexible too.
- 12:14[SPEAKER_01]: Like they've been good about that.
- 12:15[SPEAKER_01]: everyone's we had at my Charleston book fair in November.
- 12:22[SPEAKER_01]: It sprinkled a little bit at rain during the event and it did not stop anybody.
- 12:27[SPEAKER_01]: People were so calling.
- 12:28[SPEAKER_01]: They just ripped our grabs and umbrella and came right back out.
- 12:31[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll talk about it.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 12:33[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the book is community is like such a very like flag.
- 12:37[SPEAKER_01]: We're just like whatever.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_01]: We're just like whatever.
- 12:39[SPEAKER_01]: We all kind of just join together and help you check it too.
- 12:42[SPEAKER_01]: But what I've loved seeing at my events, like if an author is coming by themselves and they're like struggling with their setup, everyone are like, there's so many people around that we're going to jump in and help.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_01]: Would you say that like, as you like kind of expanded and you're doing this massive event with the sports romance event, would you say that having those contacts now have been easier to open doors with other people too?
- 13:07[SPEAKER_01]: 100% yeah.
- 13:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 13:10[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
- 13:11[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you decide like which authors to pair together for a panel, is it just like based on availability or do you like specifically pick out personalities that you think would work well?
- 13:24[SPEAKER_01]: a little bit of all of that definitely availability is major key, but can that person like talk to a room of 50 to 75 people, can they engage in a 45 minute conversation?
- 13:40[SPEAKER_01]: Can they make me laugh like you know what I'm here?
- 13:43[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we look for in terms of like pairing up authors.
- 13:49[SPEAKER_01]: I'll normally pick an author who has a big following and then an author who has more of a local following to put that help with crossing engagement for everybody.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 14:00[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
- 14:01[SPEAKER_01]: This kind of we've been to a couple of events at Eagle Eye where we were like,
- 14:11[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was very awkward.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, Clarissa broadband.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_01]: She's a fantasy author.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_01]: If you like read her or know her, she's probably one of the funniest people we've ever watched.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God.
- 14:27[SPEAKER_01]: She's fantastic.
- 14:28[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to read her.
- 14:30[SPEAKER_01]: It's like she held her own.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_01]: It was really just we walked out of there.
- 14:34[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was probably the best author of it.
- 14:36[SPEAKER_01]: Like we've ever sat it on.
- 14:37[SPEAKER_01]: Like she was fantastic.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_01]: She was so good.
- 14:39[SPEAKER_01]: And then also Julie Olivia, she's cracked too.
- 14:43[SPEAKER_01]: And she's local to Georgia.
- 14:45[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
- 14:47[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a ton of event.
- 14:48[SPEAKER_01]: She is also hilarious.
- 14:51[SPEAKER_01]: It's been interesting working with the authors too and just like really realizing that they are just real people.
- 14:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 14:57[SPEAKER_01]: She's not just these like fakements of our imagination.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 15:00[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I've also worked with authors or they're like, we please have the questions and advance like we're so nervous.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 15:06[SPEAKER_01]: And then I've had a really like, I don't care.
- 15:09[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're just way in it.
- 15:11[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be a child there who was like, no, I do better if you just ask it to me and I'm not prepared.
- 15:17[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had, but most of them honestly are like, please send them to me so we can make it prepare.
- 15:22[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay.
- 15:24[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think they talk now.
- 15:26[SPEAKER_01]: She Victoria Wilder.
- 15:29[SPEAKER_01]: She's also another one fantastic.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_01]: I met her back in January up in Connecticut.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 15:36[SPEAKER_01]: We had her on the pot and she was the one who was like, nope, I don't, I don't want them.
- 15:41[SPEAKER_01]: I just want you to ask me and I'm just going to come up with the question.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_01]: She was hilarious.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was good.
- 15:46[SPEAKER_01]: I love her so much.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of going along that questioning.
- 15:51[SPEAKER_01]: How do you make or ensure?
- 15:58[SPEAKER_01]: such a diverse audience that you, I guess you probably don't get twice.
- 16:01[SPEAKER_01]: And so, how does that kind of work?
- 16:04[SPEAKER_01]: Um, honestly, that is my moderator's job.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_01]: I, um, I do not.
- 16:09[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really give many suggestions about the question.
- 16:14[SPEAKER_01]: That's an all-time moderator.
- 16:15[SPEAKER_01]: She comes with up with all the questions.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_01]: She helps come up with the theme, like I mentioned before.
- 16:21[SPEAKER_01]: She helps.
- 16:22[SPEAKER_01]: I'll even ask my moderator like, have you read any books recently that you really like?
- 16:26[SPEAKER_01]: Like is there any one that you're really dying to interview this month?
- 16:30[SPEAKER_01]: Like that.
- 16:31[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of how we decide.
- 16:34[SPEAKER_01]: I love the theme idea.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
- 16:37[SPEAKER_01]: I love to be to a book event that has a theme, but I love me a good theme.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_01]: I love a good theme.
- 16:43[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so do authors, I've always wanted this.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_01]: Do they get paid to show up or do they just get paid by like book sales?
- 16:52[SPEAKER_01]: They get paid by the book sales.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 16:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 16:55[SPEAKER_01]: That's how I thought it happened.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 16:57[SPEAKER_01]: So I always encourage my authors at the events to kind of come with swag or like stickers, yeah.
- 17:03[SPEAKER_01]: Marks or even to do a raffle at your table, like you could do, I a book, take a ticket and then at the end of the day, like use all the sales of people who bought books and then pick a raffle winner like people.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
- 17:16[SPEAKER_01]: up at the book fair.
- 17:18[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy percent.
- 17:19[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 17:20[SPEAKER_01]: So how does like a book fair like that differ from more like a signing author event?
- 17:27[SPEAKER_01]: Like what are some bigger differences between the two?
- 17:30[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's like the difference between my events and like a big book convention you're asking yes, um I have answer free, um this France one is not that those are going to be taken it unfortunately, but that would's a ticket to the game right so it's kind of like a package deal, but all of my book fairs are free to attend and I think that's kind of what makes it different, um you're not fighting three months before online
- 17:58[SPEAKER_01]: get tickets that are probably crazy expensive and yeah guaranteed to meet everybody but at my event you could take your time it's fun grab a drink perhaps the right good read your book a time.
- 18:16[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what kind of makes it different.
- 18:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 18:19[SPEAKER_01]: I will also say if you're thinking about going to the Charlotte book fair, the sports romance one, the tickets that you were selling are way cheaper than if you were to buy a ticket to the game.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_00]: Because one has been the last one.
- 18:33[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, great.
- 18:34[SPEAKER_01]: We're bringing my husband.
- 18:35[SPEAKER_01]: Because he is the extrovert.
- 18:37[SPEAKER_01]: You are introvert, you know?
- 18:41[SPEAKER_01]: out he was like how much did you pay for those?
- 18:44[SPEAKER_01]: And I told him he was like no way because that is like so much cheaper than they're selling for right now.
- 18:49[SPEAKER_01]: So even if you're not like just just buy the ticket and go to the book fair and then run the game.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what you need to do.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that this morning while I was on my meeting with the hornets and I was like our tickets are like $22 before fees.
- 19:04[SPEAKER_01]: And I think on jump hover ticket master right now they're almost 45 or 50 bucks.
- 19:08[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, I think in the same section that we're in, they're like 50, 55 dollars insane.
- 19:16[SPEAKER_01]: We paid half that.
- 19:18[SPEAKER_01]: Love that for us.
- 19:19[SPEAKER_01]: So fun.
- 19:20[SPEAKER_01]: What genre typically draws the biggest crowd?
- 19:23[SPEAKER_01]: Is it romance fantasy like thriller?
- 19:26[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, um, it depends on the city we're in, which is kind of a kind of, um, it depends on the city we're in.
- 19:34[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely like overall romance.
- 19:37[SPEAKER_01]: Um, probably loves dark romance and fantasy.
- 19:41[SPEAKER_01]: They like love.
- 19:43[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 19:44[SPEAKER_01]: Charleston loves romance too, but they're also into historical fiction and that's not that.
- 19:51[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it really depends on where we're at, you know?
- 19:56[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I never thought about that.
- 19:58[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm a teacher.
- 19:59[SPEAKER_01]: I really did it.
- 20:02[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, somebody give me a map now.
- 20:04[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see like, what are the most red?
- 20:06[SPEAKER_01]: Like someone got to have that research.
- 20:07[SPEAKER_01]: I want a green bell.
- 20:08[SPEAKER_01]: What does green bell most interested in?
- 20:10[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think most of my authors from Greenwell were romance that signed up to and I really, yeah, I would say a lot of it's just contemporary romance.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 20:19[SPEAKER_00]: That's tracks.
- 20:20[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 20:21[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds great.
- 20:22[SPEAKER_01]: We had Celeste Breyers who sports romance.
- 20:25[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to be at the 28th event.
- 20:28[SPEAKER_01]: She did a author talk at the last Greenville book fair.
- 20:32[SPEAKER_01]: Sports romance is pretty popular in Greenville.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 20:34[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
- 20:35[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
- 20:35[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, because we have like a baseball team and I'm sure they agree with John.
- 20:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have been just sports going on in Greenville, but honestly historical fiction for Charleston makes so much sense because the town is so historical I'm from right near Charleston.
- 20:50[SPEAKER_01]: I grew up near there.
- 20:51[SPEAKER_01]: So that I love that it like gives the city a personality like Charlotte being dark.
- 20:56[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a rally being dark-riffing, but that's so funny.
- 21:01[SPEAKER_01]: So, why is the most chaotic thing that has ever happened to you at an event?
- 21:05[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly!
- 21:07[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, I think, well, okay, I took that back one time we had an event.
- 21:13[SPEAKER_01]: It was the only time I've ever used like a parking company because the venue required it.
- 21:17[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't something that I want to do.
- 21:19[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we had to and every time I gave the parking people directions and turned around they like.
- 21:26[SPEAKER_01]: didn't go opposite and that would be because it just turned into like a game of telephones with the vendors and stuff.
- 21:33[SPEAKER_01]: So no, it's another thing like with planning events and logistics.
- 21:37[SPEAKER_01]: It's it kind of turns into a game of telephones.
- 21:40[SPEAKER_01]: So that could be kind of that time was good to hear that the bookish people attending our calm and normal and everyone's to understand it like even with the
- 21:56[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay, we love that.
- 21:58[SPEAKER_01]: If you could host your dream panel who would be on it.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
- 22:05[SPEAKER_01]: I think my dream panel would be like a cowboy romance panel and I already worked with Jessica, but I love her.
- 22:13[SPEAKER_01]: I would have her haul your neck.
- 22:16[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, all the big.
- 22:17[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_01]: Like 90 games like all, yeah.
- 22:20[SPEAKER_01]: That would be my dream.
- 22:21[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe even doing it like, like, really theme it and do it at like a hunky tone blind dance walk.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 22:30[SPEAKER_01]: Get the girlies to dress up and
- 22:33[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, I was like, are we having an innocent windows and no is it windows out there like in the middle of nowhere?
- 22:41[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we have a different rant We do
- 22:48[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to do that.
- 22:50[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys have a coyote, Joseph?
- 22:52[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys have any questions?
- 22:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 22:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
- 22:55[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to do it there or something like that.
- 22:57[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
- 22:58[SPEAKER_01]: I like the moment I turned 18, my sister dragged me to the blind horse and Greenville, so I literally grew up lying dancing.
- 23:04[SPEAKER_01]: So I completely support that.
- 23:05[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're going to have to teach me, but we go to this event.
- 23:08[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to have to happen.
- 23:09[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling you, you do a cowboy themed event.
- 23:11[SPEAKER_01]: That would be packed out.
- 23:14[SPEAKER_01]: That would be so much fun.
- 23:18[SPEAKER_01]: We love it.
- 23:19[SPEAKER_01]: It's honestly those are like the two genres that I really read.
- 23:23[SPEAKER_01]: I would say cowboy romance.
- 23:24[SPEAKER_01]: Sports romance obsessed.
- 23:26[SPEAKER_01]: Have you read Victoria Waters books yet?
- 23:28[SPEAKER_01]: I have.
- 23:30[SPEAKER_01]: So I bought the series from her when I had her in January.
- 23:33[SPEAKER_01]: She signed it for me, but I have this like massive two-year-old to get through for panels and
- 23:42[SPEAKER_01]: But she's on there.
- 23:44[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 23:45[SPEAKER_01]: If you like that vibe, then you're going to absolutely love her.
- 23:51[SPEAKER_01]: I know I personally recommend you listen to them because I got that Southern train.
- 23:59[SPEAKER_01]: Like I listened to all of them and the voices that they have, the narrators are just fantastic.
- 24:07[SPEAKER_01]: Clay.
- 24:09[SPEAKER_01]: I've never heard that word, and you know it, not at all read, isn't you read?
- 24:16[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I'm so scared.
- 24:17[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so to kind of sum up the whole, like, the bookish of it, sort of the pond, um, what is some advice that you would give to someone who's in service about attending a book of it, especially like for those going alone and kind of what that might entail?
- 24:30[SPEAKER_01]: Don't be nervous.
- 24:33[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
- 24:40[SPEAKER_01]: go to a vendor market and talk to vendors and share about their small businesses and stuff like these people are there because they want to talk to you.
- 24:48[SPEAKER_01]: They want to talk to you about their business.
- 24:50[SPEAKER_01]: So go and grab a drink.
- 24:53[SPEAKER_01]: That's why we do this at craze or yeah, holy mock tales and other life in the mood.
- 24:58[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to loosen up, go chat with you.
- 25:00[SPEAKER_01]: There's just put yourself out there.
- 25:02[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of girls that come to the event you could even
- 25:07[SPEAKER_01]: Like, comment on my post and be like, is anybody going anyone want to meet up?
- 25:11[SPEAKER_00]: That's how I do.
- 25:13[SPEAKER_01]: At least three to five girls would be like, yes, I want to hang out with you.
- 25:17[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 25:18[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
- 25:19[SPEAKER_01]: I think like we have worked.
- 25:21[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like she said earlier, we are massive introverts and like how we are on the podcast is so different because it's just outside of computer screen.
- 25:27[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like legit who we are.
- 25:28[SPEAKER_01]: But having to like, when we've gone to author events, like we've had to really force our
- 25:33[SPEAKER_01]: helps me like, hey, let's actually like meet people.
- 25:35[SPEAKER_01]: We got a network a little bit.
- 25:37[SPEAKER_01]: And we've like met great people.
- 25:39[SPEAKER_01]: We found like that Sydney girl who's going to like meet up with us when we go to Knoxville for a book of it.
- 25:44[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, yeah.
- 25:46[SPEAKER_01]: I even tell like the girl's girls.
- 25:48[SPEAKER_01]: I even tell people when they come to my event.
- 25:50[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I'll post about like who's the content creators are and who the influencers, most of them, by themselves.
- 26:02[SPEAKER_01]: talk with them and they would love it.
- 26:04[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
- 26:06[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 26:08[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so now on to an exciting part miss debut author.
- 26:14[SPEAKER_01]: Is this going to be your debut novel that you're writing?
- 26:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm honestly so excited to talk about this because I have not even okay.
- 26:22[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is like I have not announced that I haven't told really anybody, but yes, this is my first book and I'm so excited.
- 26:29[SPEAKER_01]: Like we need to put a little graphic on this.
- 26:31[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, spill the tea.
- 26:32[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's, let's, let's, let's, let's do all the tea.
- 26:35[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, um, will, will it be indie publish or trad published?
- 26:39[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to stop fubblish.
- 26:40[SPEAKER_01]: Are you telling the title of it yet?
- 26:42[SPEAKER_01]: Or is that still top secret?
- 26:44[SPEAKER_01]: The titles still top secret because I don't know if it's going to stay the title.
- 26:48[SPEAKER_01]: The titles changed probably three times, but I keep going back to this one.
- 26:53[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 26:54[SPEAKER_01]: I love.
- 26:56[SPEAKER_01]: It's after.
- 26:57[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you guys a hint.
- 26:59[SPEAKER_01]: It's after a chopper roundsong.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_01]: Love that.
- 27:06[SPEAKER_01]: So can what can you tell us about it?
- 27:08[SPEAKER_01]: Like can give us a little run that we're going to sound like you guys a little bit about this not says it is a revenge rom calm.
- 27:18[SPEAKER_01]: So what that box story I was unfortunately just cheated on really bad breakup and I kind of just wanted to turn it into a positive or like a what that.
- 27:30[SPEAKER_01]: a paid opportunity, you know.
- 27:34[SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to just put all of my thoughts and anger and energy into this book.
- 27:40[SPEAKER_01]: So when a girl gets broken up with, what is the first thing we want to do?
- 27:45[SPEAKER_01]: Go smash his car and like pray.
- 27:48[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, carry under what on somebody is.
- 27:49[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
- 27:50[SPEAKER_01]: So that
- 27:51[SPEAKER_01]: is all going in the book.
- 27:53[SPEAKER_01]: So what that the girl is for when you first break up and you want to go destroy his car before you do that read this book and it right.
- 28:03[SPEAKER_01]: You're over realize that you're not the only one who feels that way and this happened to a lot more people than I even realized.
- 28:13[SPEAKER_01]: But revenge also isn't always worth it.
- 28:16[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
- 28:17[SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us any like tropes that we might get to see?
- 28:21[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't really even like figured out what they would be yet to have been labeled there.
- 28:27[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly haven't even like I've ought to do the description for the back of the book.
- 28:33[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm asking me I'm like here to read this.
- 28:37[SPEAKER_01]: I'm about like 50,000 words into it.
- 28:42[SPEAKER_01]: So we're forgotten there, but we don't have a long way to go.
- 28:46[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say legitimately, we have always had this question and they'll be like, oh, like, so many words into it.
- 28:53[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, I don't know what that means.
- 28:56[SPEAKER_01]: So what is like 50,000 words?
- 28:58[SPEAKER_01]: Is that like,
- 29:00[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so the average novel is about 75,000 worth.
- 29:06[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
- 29:07[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, around there, Michael is around 50 to 75.
- 29:11[SPEAKER_01]: So it's about done.
- 29:13[SPEAKER_01]: We're almost on first draft.
- 29:15[SPEAKER_01]: And then, um,
- 29:17[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like I said, I really haven't even started marketing this and I'm Yeah, I did to figure out like how I want to market it.
- 29:24[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to like create the revenge playlists and stuff that's all my life You need some beta readers.
- 29:31[SPEAKER_01]: We will be your biggest height girl.
- 29:32[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh
- 29:33[SPEAKER_01]: We're both happily married, but I will channel my inner like rage for this book.
- 29:38[SPEAKER_01]: We got you.
- 29:39[SPEAKER_01]: I like the girl who's who've just gone through a breakup.
- 29:43[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's the girls who have just been fired from a job and they want to like any on their boss or like the girl who really bad fight with their friends or like who got ghosted by a friend and you want to like just get that anger out.
- 29:57[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, we'll have a story time after this podcast.
- 30:02[SPEAKER_01]: He's time again.
- 30:03[SPEAKER_01]: I really want to reiterate it now.
- 30:05[SPEAKER_01]: No, I legitimately.
- 30:07[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've ever read anything like revenge oriented and this genuinely makes me excited.
- 30:12[SPEAKER_01]: So.
- 30:13[SPEAKER_01]: I love that.
- 30:14[SPEAKER_01]: So here for it.
- 30:16[SPEAKER_01]: OK, how do you have time?
- 30:18[SPEAKER_01]: Literally, how.
- 30:21[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I don't.
- 30:23[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really sleep.
- 30:24[SPEAKER_01]: I've been doing a lot of writing late at night.
- 30:28[SPEAKER_01]: Like I said, I just went through the breakup.
- 30:31[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of fresh for me, since it's been like an outlet.
- 30:35[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm
- 30:37[SPEAKER_01]: sad at night.
- 30:39[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to I'm not going to lie.
- 30:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like a healing process, too.
- 30:44[SPEAKER_01]: You know exactly part of the healing honestly turn all the bad into something good.
- 30:50[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only that's the best thing you could do.
- 30:52[SPEAKER_01]: No.
- 30:53[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess like because a lot of times we like to ask like what the process looks like.
- 30:57[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess yours is that's something like you're figuring out like since it says that you and
- 31:02[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely figuring it out along the way.
- 31:05[SPEAKER_01]: I fortunately work with a ton of amazing things.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 31:10[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of advice.
- 31:12[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'll be honest, guys.
- 31:13[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I first started this process, I was like, do, where do they write that?
- 31:18[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do they go dark?
- 31:20[SPEAKER_01]: Like, or, like, that was so loud.
- 31:22[SPEAKER_01]: The brand, she writes everything by hand.
- 31:24[SPEAKER_01]: So I was kind of just like, oh, no.
- 31:27[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the, it's really, the questions really aren't as dumb as we think, but I've had some really great authors mentoring me and that's awesome.
- 31:40[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Sarah Adams, when we went to one of her book events, she was like, I literally started on my notes app on my phone because the computer felt too big.
- 31:48[SPEAKER_01]: So I just got the notes app and I just started writing and I kept writing.
- 31:52[SPEAKER_01]: Have you always wanted to write a book or if you would have asked me a year ago, if I was writing a book or like if I would write a book, I'd probably would say no.
- 32:02[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, doing the fairs and honestly like seeing how quickly these authors could pop out books, it kind of really like I can do that.
- 32:13[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'd like to think I could do that.
- 32:18[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think I can get it out.
- 32:21[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking back to whenever I was younger and I'm definitely so sure that I wrote some sort of like fantasy.
- 32:29[SPEAKER_01]: That was based off of Twilight.
- 32:31[SPEAKER_01]: And so it would kill to find that now.
- 32:35[SPEAKER_01]: When I was in middle school, I wrote fan fiction on Wattpad.
- 32:40[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess I take it back, I used to like, and I look back at that now, and I'm like, that's so embarrassing, I did that.
- 32:49[SPEAKER_01]: If you like how do I delete this off of the internet?
- 32:51[SPEAKER_01]: It's never fine to me again.
- 32:54[SPEAKER_01]: I would literally love to be a fly on the wall and just like read that again, like there's no talent.
- 33:01[SPEAKER_01]: There is absolutely no talent with that said.
- 33:03[SPEAKER_01]: Could you see yourself doing it again?
- 33:06[SPEAKER_01]: If you like how this ends up and you kind of feel good about it, like could you do it again?
- 33:12[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
- 33:13[SPEAKER_01]: I think I mean so far the response to like the authors and the people that I've told is really positive.
- 33:23[SPEAKER_01]: I've had some people already read it and they are like, there has to be a movie for this.
- 33:29[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is crazy, so I think, yeah, I mean, why not, yeah, did hosting book events make you more confident or more terrified or at a book?
- 33:44[SPEAKER_01]: I would say more confident, definitely more confident.
- 33:47[SPEAKER_01]: I have a guaranteed place to sell my books.
- 33:52[SPEAKER_01]: So that's really important.
- 33:53[SPEAKER_01]: Are you excited for people to start lining up to get your book?
- 33:58[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really excited for people to start reading this.
- 34:02[SPEAKER_01]: I just want people to know that they're not alone.
- 34:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I definitely, I had never been cheated on and I definitely thought it was like the end of the world.
- 34:15[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really had no idea.
- 34:19[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I just really can't wait to like see people's reactions and hear the stories and know that I'm also not alone in this, too.
- 34:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so how do you feel like it's going to be going from marketing events to marketing your own book?
- 34:39[SPEAKER_01]: Is that going to be like, I really have no idea.
- 34:44[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was kind of
- 34:47[SPEAKER_01]: I could even get your opinion on this.
- 34:49[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys think like I would I should market my book through front page media or should it be marketed through page like you know if you have a platform do you use it that's what I thought like I'm definitely going like collab a lot but I still feel like I need to bring my face more into it now that I mean you can even
- 35:10[SPEAKER_01]: posted from like the author page page and then collab with front page media.
- 35:17[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a platform, there is a no-shaming user app because you built that thing too.
- 35:23[SPEAKER_01]: Use that.
- 35:24[SPEAKER_01]: I put it out there now.
- 35:28[SPEAKER_01]: I used my bakery page for the podcast.
- 35:33[SPEAKER_01]: I had 20,000 followers on my bakery page.
- 35:36[SPEAKER_01]: Did I use that?
- 35:37[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did.
- 35:37[SPEAKER_01]: She was blown.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did.
- 35:39[SPEAKER_01]: Had does that have anything to do with the bot gas?
- 35:42[SPEAKER_01]: No, it doesn't.
- 35:43[SPEAKER_01]: No, I love it, though.
- 35:45[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely.
- 35:47[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to do a piece of it.
- 35:49[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do a per site.
- 35:50[SPEAKER_01]: So can you kind of give us like a timeline of what to expect with this book?
- 35:55[SPEAKER_01]: And when it is expected to come out?
- 35:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 35:58[SPEAKER_01]: So I...
- 36:01[SPEAKER_01]: The goal is to release it on December 11th, like the evening of December 11th, because that one year from when I left the little rat, girl, what's that?
- 36:14[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't know if it will.
- 36:16[SPEAKER_01]: And then one month from then I'll go on, like a little tour.
- 36:21[SPEAKER_01]: So will it be like you can buy through Amazon?
- 36:25[SPEAKER_01]: Like will you have a printed copy to buy and like a will go on Kindle?
- 36:29[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly really haven't gotten that far back, right?
- 36:33[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I've talked to a few different publishers.
- 36:36[SPEAKER_01]: I've debated even just using Amazon Publishing.
- 36:39[SPEAKER_01]: You'll definitely be able to get it through my website.
- 36:42[SPEAKER_01]: You'll definitely be able to get it at my events.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:46[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_00]: You love that.
- 36:47[SPEAKER_01]: If someone listening feels like they have a book inside of them, but they're too scared to ride it, what advice would you give them?
- 36:56[SPEAKER_01]: Just do it to do it like I take up that pen and paper and just start writing notes start I started by like.
- 37:06[SPEAKER_01]: watching videos on Instagram like stupid breakup videos with like quotes and like pulling things that I really know and that and talks of girls getting back at their boyfriends and stuff like that um so do your research take note and just do the damn thing yeah absolutely I need to get that on a shirt yeah we do yeah have to be one of your merch shirts that's a great idea yeah
- 37:35[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay.
- 37:36[SPEAKER_01]: If you have not yet checked out from page media, go check out her Instagram page, make sure that you come see us and everybody else at the book fair.
- 37:46[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys in the next video.
- 37:50[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, bye guys.
- 37:51[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's T-Tile.