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S6 196. Rod and Pete - G5307 Nephilim, Clouds & The Connection · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Hey, Rod, how's it going, my man?
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What's going on, Pete? Always good to be here with you
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enjoying it. So we're going to drop another
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mini episode together here and you had a concept that you just
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introduced to me and so why don't you vamp on that a bit and
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see where this goes. Yeah.
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So I'm going to start it out and just hit the ground running.
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One of my favorite Albert Einstein quotes is he says I
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fear the day technology surpasses human interaction.
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In that day, we have a generation of idiots.
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Oh, harsh. But hold on a second reality
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check, right? I don't live far from
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Philadelphia, for example. I've been right in the
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outskirts, if not almost in New York City multiple times this
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year around large groups of people.
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I do not witness anybody paying attention to the environment
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around them, right? Like people don't look up,
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right? And even when people pray, they
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put their head down and like the Bible doesn't say to do that.
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Like it actually says like over and over again, look up, look up
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your redemption, draw near. And so I started thinking about
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this concept of like the abundance of things that are in
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our environment that we are trained so well not to pay
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attention to. It's almost horrific when you
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come to the conclusion that it it's worked and you're an
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unwilling participant. Maybe I can break some of you
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out of that by doing a little episode like this.
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So I want to talk about clouds. OK, Clouds are in the sky, man.
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They're in the sky. There they are, right?
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Some of them are fake, and I'm not going to read patent
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numbers, but if you guys are interested in that, you can look
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at weather manipulation patents. This is not conspiracy.
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This is actual tangible information that you can
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research for yourself. But the idea is not all of them
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are fake and the Bible has a lot to say about clouds.
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Actually, clouds are mentioned a great number of times in the
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Word of God. And just to try to start this
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thing out, 104 times cloud appears.
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Not to mention cloudy and clouds plural.
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Let's look at the concept of iCloud information stored in the
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clouds of technology. That's a modern day Camdence to
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understand we're using the word cloud in a manner where it's
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correlating to technology and information being stored.
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But let's see what the Bible has to say about clouds in Hebrews
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12/1. It references a great cloud of
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witnesses. I highly recommend that you guys
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would get into your Septuagint or concordance and start looking
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at root words for cloud. You'd be very fascinated to go
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on this kind of mini study. Matthew 2430.
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Jesus will return on the clouds. He ascended into the clouds on
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on Ascension. In Exodus we see that the clouds
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are God's canopy, his dwelling place, literally a covering.
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We can see it in Psalms, Exodus, over and over again.
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The pillar of clouds that led them out by day.
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Some versions say a pillar of smoke.
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But do your own research, don't rely on what I'm telling you.
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Dig in, go a little deeper, fall in love with the word of God all
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over again. So we we can see modern day a
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lot of stories and videos with small orbs, large ones
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strikingly resembling globes, small globes, orbs, circular
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discs, all different types of things that are floating through
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the misty cloud like substance up in the sky.
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And this is a a, a phenomenon, right?
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Or a aerial phenomenon, whatever they call it now, a UFO.
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I'm still sticking with UFO. I'm a 90s kid.
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I'm a millennial. But they they say it's a UAP
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now, unidentified aerial phenomenon, if I'm saying that
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correctly. Yeah.
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And fascinating that even now our government is putting on a
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public display, drawing in curiosity to craft in the sky.
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And clouds are all over in the sky.
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And if we start to consider what God has to say about clouds, you
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know, they're not just some whimsical imagination of white
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puffy vapor that's just up there for your momentary entertainment
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when you decide to glance up once a month and and see what
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the sky looks like for the day. No, they have a very important
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role in the shamayim, in the heavens, and they have a lot to
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do with how God operates. So I just want to plant those
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seeds and see if that ripple effect will cause some deeper
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research to be done by the listeners out there.
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Pete, I just want you to comment on any of this and hold up, man.
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Let's add into it. What are you thinking here?
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Couple things came to mind. Boy, I never number one.
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I mean, I've never really considered clouds as a almost a
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spiritual topic to consider God's usage and their meaning
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and the biblical significance. But couple things came to mind
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on that. When he says I am the Son of man
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and you will see me coming on the clouds.
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And that was blasphemy, right? And the Pharisees tore their
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robes because they knew what that meant, that he was claiming
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equality with God. So for anyone out there who and
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I just saw an article or a or a clip or something, maybe a
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YouTube clip from an atheist that said Jesus never claimed to
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be God. Oh yeah, he did.
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The Pharisees knew very well what he was saying when he said
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things like that that gave him equality with the Father.
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I and the Father are 1. He said right?
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Not to go off too much on that but if you recall the two powers
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in heaven idea, not an original Mike Kyser like he often would
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say. None of his ideas were original,
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he just synthesized them from other scholars.
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So I forget the scholar that kind of put that out there.
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But this was an idea in the second temple period around
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Jesus lifetime that was understood that those that were
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familiar with the Old Testament scripture would see these two
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equal divine powers show up over and over again.
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And they kind of wondered who is this second figure?
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I mean, this is we often think of and, and perhaps they would
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even consider themselves monotheistic as a as a Jew, as a
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Hebrew, but they they saw these divine figures and one of them
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was in that Old Testament passage about coming on the
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clouds. There was another power involved
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there. I don't have the reference in
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front of me, but you guys can look that up.
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And yeah, so that that one came to mind, that second power in
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heaven, which incidentally, Rod, I'll say real quick, you know,
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that was one of the the things that as we talked to Doug Van
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Dorn many episodes ago on how did this Sethite view of Genesis
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6 come to popularity, where the angelic view that again in the
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Second Temple Jewish period, they fully accepted for hundreds
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of years that these were angels coming down.
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This was not 2 sets of humans getting married and giving birth
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to giants. This was a divine being.
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That whole belief system had to go once Jesus claimed to be the
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Messiah because now you couldn't have this divine being taking
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human form. So they kind of had to get rid
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of that idea of this 2 powers in heaven.
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So that was one thought and the other thought was, you know,
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Satan being described as the Prince of the power of the air.
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How interesting that you know God in the 3rd heaven passes
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through the 2nd heaven to come here in his return.
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You'll see him the same way he departed when he returns.
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I don't know. I think that's interesting.
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It's almost kind of like passing through the enemy's neighborhood
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on your way to declare your victory.
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What do you think, Rod? Yeah, I mean, it's fascinating.
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Clouds are made of water, and living water flows from his
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throne, right? And were made of water and the
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knowledge of the glory of the Lord as prophesied in Habakkuk
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says we'll cover the earth like the waters.
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It's very fascinating when we start to consider what clouds
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are and how God may be using them to pass through the
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disgruntled enemy's neighborhood on his way to and multi layered
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victory. But I just want to bring this
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concept. You know, in the ancient Greek
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culture, according to myths, clouds were not clouds at all,
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but they were a group of young nymphs called Nafalayi.
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Hopefully I'm pronouncing that correctly.
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Probably not. Let's try one more time in case.
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We wouldn't know if you didn't. Nephelia.
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I guess I it's NEPHELAI. How would you pronounce that?
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I don't know. AI so maybe Nepheli?
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Nepheli. Nepheli.
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Yeah, something along those lines.
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The daughters of two Titans, Oceanus and Tetius.
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These cloud spirits, dedicated as beautiful and transparent
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spirits, spent their days collecting water from the rivers
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and cloudy pitches, then floating them up to the heavens.
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And when the pitchers were full, they poured down the water from
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the sky, nourishing the earth and feeding the streams of their
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brothers, the river gods. And these Nephelii were thought
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to sail through the sky and billowing white robes, much like
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the way that clouds drift across the heavens.
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I can go on and on. The ancient Hindus have a
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tradition that elephants brought rain and that the clouds
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themselves were celestial relatives of the white elephants
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that ruined the earth. Native Americans also had some
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myths and folklore surrounding clouds.
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The Pawnee tribe who lived in Nebraska seen clouds as the
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clothing of the gods of heaven and that a God spreading its
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arms would cause the clouds to stretch across the entire sky.
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The Navajo people also believe that the great clouds were
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spawned of birds in the heavens flapping their wings, that
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that's what would bring this about.
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So I just want to introduce these ideas to show you guys
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that we have historical ideas that the clouds are super
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important. Every culture other than modern
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day America, like right now, like we're the only ones not
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considering this. And so when I got hit with the
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reality that I'll give a shout out here to my buddy Eric, who I
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minister with, and Eric Allen, who listens to the podcast as
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well. And he's always having an
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encounter with the clouds and it's like undisputable, like
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he's like, dude, look, no, I took this picture.
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This is what I saw. God was telling me this.
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And it's, it's actually borderline significant most of
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the time. It's not just like, oh, like
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kind of fluff, like when you actually hear him out and you're
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like, on this day that happened. Oh, and, and you were where?
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Oh, and he, he travels all across the country.
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So for him it's, he's catching the best of the clouds across
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the land. It, it really brought me into
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this is this happened about a year or two ago where I started
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going, well, God, what do you have to say about the clouds?
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And I went, how have I talked with so many pastors?
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I've been to so many churches and services, and yet like
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really no one ever brings this kind of stuff up.
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And that's why I'm here today doing it for you guys.
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It's the echo Chamber of this is important.
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And hopefully this sparks you guys to want to dig into your
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Bible again and, and look at all these different references where
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clouds are mentioned in the word of God.
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And Pete, with all of that, I'm just going to hand it back to
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you, my friend. Thanks brother.
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Yeah, a couple more thoughts popped in real quick.
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I remember Doctor Laura Sanger mentioning on an interview Steve
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Quayle and Thomas Horn's book Unearthing the Lost World, World
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of the Cloud Eaters. Oh, I forgot.
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About that, yeah, yes. So, so that might have something
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to do and and even maybe if we take the Book of Enoch as being
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literally true when it says 3000 L's, we might have had 4500 foot
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Titans walking around. I mean, there's.
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Clouds. In the clouds, literally their
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heads in the clouds. I mean, you got mud Fossil
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University, his YouTube channel, right, showing some of these
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things that certainly appear like it might have been a living
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being. And yet it's the size of a
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hillside. So that was one thought I had,
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and the other was storms being calmed.
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You know, I think again, when when we had Doctor Laura and Tim
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Bents on the show a while back, she mentioned about God
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instructing her to pray against a storm that was coming in.
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And then there was also, and the name escapes me, a concert
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pianist, Christian guy who has toured with the likes of Michael
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W. Smith and so on.
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And he was doing a concert and I think Ireland years ago.
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And he was telling us this story when he visited our church a few
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years ago. And it was the same kind of
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thing. The storm came on and they
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prayed and it stopped. Sometimes these things are
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spiritual. They're not just weather events.
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And of course, Jesus displayed that when he calmed the storm in
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the boat. So kind of linking clouds and
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storms together a bit. And then the last thought I had,
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Rod, as you were talking about all these references, references
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to different religions and schools of thought around the
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world. Well, what if this is all
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pointing to the Creator as OK? Track this line of thought for a
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moment. You think of how all of the
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other false world religions and their deities connect back to
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Genesis 6 and the Bible, ultimately pointing to the true
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Creator and comparing himself against all of these
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counterfeits, right? So maybe as you were listing off
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all of these different religions and beliefs, maybe there's
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something true in the midst of all of that misunderstanding.
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Yeah, I definitely agree. I think the biblical narrative
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is actually a correction that's being put out to.
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Polemic. Yeah, exactly.
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And like, everybody's got a little something wrong and a
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little something right in this big world history thing.
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They're all stemming from the same stock of creation.
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And then God is putting a, a correction out.
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He's literally saying, oh, let let's get the story right here.
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Genesis 64 is something we lean to to actually understand the
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rest of the threads in the Bible because of guys like Doctor Mike
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Geiser and and curious minds like ourselves.
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Pete going there's something more here.
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I mean, I was asking that before I heard what Mike who Mike
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Kaiser was, but it took Mike Kaiser to come along and put it
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into a worldview that is undisputable if you do the
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research. So all of this is really
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important and I'm hoping that these many episodes are just
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drumming up deeper interest and just a deeper prayer and study
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time for you guys. The Berean mindset was highly
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applauded by the New Testament author.
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He says the Bereans, they had studied daily with a readiness
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of mind to accept all that which could be found true in the word
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of God. And I'm hoping there's some
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Bereans out there right now that are sending me a correction
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e-mail for anything I may have gotten wrong or congratulation
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e-mail for being bold and not throwing away my confidence,
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which has great reward. And Pete, it's always an honor
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to be with you on these episodes.
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Man. I really love what you guys do,
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and it's been fun and encouraging to be building
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through these seasons with the Days Noah podcast.
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So thanks for the opportunity and the friendship.
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Absolutely. Likewise.
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And man, it's probably almost every episode.
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I mentioned something about you and your show too.
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So yeah, the collaboration has been great.
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So thank you everybody out there listening and yeah, give us your
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feedback on some of these. I think Rod and I are going to
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try to do these many episodes semi regularly, not every week,
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but give us your feedback and even throw us some topics that
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you want us to kind of chew on for 10 or 15 minutes sometime.
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So yeah, thanks for listening everybody.
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Appreciate it. Thanks, Rod.
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God bless and goodbye. I came from the sun, the one and
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only, straight from the heavens. You really owe me.
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All in my life I was beating up. All in my life I didn't handle
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hope. All in my life I was stuck in on
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track. All in my life I didn't handle
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rap. I didn't know why my life was so
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wet. I didn't know why my life was a
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rat. I didn't know why I couldn't get
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up. I was so stuck.
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And the monkey was stuck till I found out.
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And I broke everything until I fell down.
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And they took everything until I was hurting my heart.
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It was strained. Yeah, I was broken.
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I had all this pain held on the hope.
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It got harder than this hope. Then I went to the side.
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In this mode. I had no truth but to look to my
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guy. He gave me up.
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Open my eyes. He gave me earrings.
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And he told me I'm blessed. He told me he just believe in
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this time. I told him I can't change all of
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my ways. He said I got you to look at
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this time. I looked at him and he showed me
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his ways. Then he just told me how I am
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this time. See he just told me I'm not in
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this one. He told me I come from the
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heavens above. I'm a new creature.
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I come from the sun, from the one and only straight from the
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heavens. You really owe me.
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I came from the sun I was really with him and heavenly places I'm
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still living. Y'all can't even go that way.
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Y'all don't even know that way. Y'all want to play like Patty
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cake but this ain't no game. But it's that way right?
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You wipe this so fake when you walk under me and I know you're
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a snake. You think you can be me but you
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got no power you want in a way I take out that chopper I'll put
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on your top and I'll prank on your face.
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I see you laughing. You think that you got me but
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you got no way. The evil you said for my life is
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OK because it's made for my good.
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My God is created. He created you so you really is
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cooked. I said all these things because
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I know what is true and you know you was cooked.
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You can never win. I know the things that's going
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to happen to you when you die. You didn't live in your life
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because you know you can never go and get safe.
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You know his great thing, his mercy was too from you when
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you're my daughter to plot thought you could take on my
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God's spot now, but you can die hot.
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You was really tweaking. I come from the sun, from the
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one and the only. Straight from the Evans.
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You really owe me. I came from the sun.
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I was really with them. The heavenly places on the
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ceiling. Y'all can't even go that way.
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Y'all don't even know that way. Y'all want to play like Patty
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Kay, but this ain't no game. But it's that way.