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3 Guys Before The Game - WVU Basketball - Baylor Recap (Episode 694) · 3 Guys Before The Game

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Music time, which means it is showtime. This is Three
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Guys Before the Game, Episode numbers six hundred and ninety four.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: This is a recap of West Virginia against the Baylor Bears,
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: times two. Both the WVU men and the WVU women
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: hosting Baylor over the weekend at Hope Coliseum. Mountaineers got
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: a split trying to go to and zero did not happen.
• 0:30
  Speaker 1: We've got that coming up along with Hoppy's obvious observations,
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the Big twelve as a whole.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: Got some big games coming up this week in West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia goes back on the road for a single game
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  Speaker 1: at Cincinnati on Thursday night. And don't look now, but
• 0:45
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• 0:48
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  Speaker 1: So not the result that we wanted in the men's game.
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  Speaker 1: It was exactly the result we wanted in the women's game. Coincidentally,
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  Speaker 1: both games and with a margin of victory of ten points.
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  Speaker 1: Nationally ranked matchup on Sunday afternoon inside Hope Coliseum, WUVU
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  Speaker 1: knocks off Baylor by a score of seventy to sixty.
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  Speaker 1: It's a huge win for WUVU. Baylor had only lost
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  Speaker 1: three times the entire season, and just take a win
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  Speaker 1: and be happy with it. But every time West Virginia wins,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I do the women, I go like,
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  Speaker 1: if you just would have got the TCU who you
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: got beat with on a buzzer beater, and the and
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  Speaker 1: the Texas Tech and the Texas Tech, I mean, this
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  Speaker 1: team could be in first place. Mark Kellogg is fabulous.
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  Speaker 1: We said going into the season, what will they do?
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  Speaker 1: What will they do with the loss of an NBA
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  Speaker 1: a w NBA player.
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  Speaker 3: Go get players.
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  Speaker 1: Well, they just keep winning, win, They just keep winning.
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  Speaker 2: Mimi Wheeler, Hello, Yeah, double double double, a big double double,
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  Speaker 2: not like just like slipped over the time.
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  Speaker 4: I'm surprised they did not call security to the Hope
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  Speaker 4: Coliseum because West Virginia stole the ball so.
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  Speaker 2: Much, thirty turnovers for a ranked Baylor team that's a
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  Speaker 2: top fifteen team turned it over thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty, thirty and thirteen steals.
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  Speaker 2: Well, think about this, thirty eight pot ov.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the points offense. Yeah, so West Virginia scored more
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  Speaker 1: than half of its points because of Baylor turnovers. They
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  Speaker 1: scored thirty eight. There's seventy off of Baylor turnovers. And
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  Speaker 1: because this is a this is a statistical aberration, West
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  Speaker 1: Virginia was out shot in the game. The Mountaineer shot
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  Speaker 1: twenty nine point eight percent. We'll call it thirty. The
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  Speaker 1: Baylors shot thirty four. Baylor got beat by ten. Why
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia took twenty three more shots at the goal
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  Speaker 1: at the goal because of the turnovers, stealing the ball.
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  Speaker 2: And running down twenty five. In that points off turnover category,
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  Speaker 2: sixteen of those turnovers were live ball variety. Wes tritting
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  Speaker 2: I got a point per possession off of those sixteen
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  Speaker 2: points off those sixteen night ball turnovers.
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  Speaker 4: Pretty good, by the way. Six K at the College
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  Speaker 4: at the Hope Coliseum.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic, good crowd. Yeah, that probably shouldn't go here. This
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  Speaker 1: early in the show. Go ahead, but the officiating left
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  Speaker 1: a tremendous amount to be desired.
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  Speaker 3: Now, don't get into all our stuff here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, fine, I'll just leave it with that. The officiating
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  Speaker 1: left a tremendous amount to be desired. Will leave it
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  Speaker 3: Seen that whole Lord, gosh, I bet you know.
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  Speaker 1: everyone has a cell phone. You don't have to worry
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  Speaker 1: about mom or dad answering the phones directly.
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  Speaker 2: But I think it's done a disservice to today's youth.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was great character building to have to lie.
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  Speaker 2: You had to line up and say, all right, Dad,
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  Speaker 2: here we go. I'm gonna make a call. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: handle it, gonna get your daughter on the phone.
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  Speaker 1: Here that wint and you on the phone.
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  Speaker 2: Be screwed early. Like if you came out of the
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  Speaker 3: Classic Brad.
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  Speaker 2: last week. You see that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think you opened with that.
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  Speaker 2: I never did.
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  Speaker 1: No, I think you're exactly right. Though. Kids don't communicate
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  Speaker 1: well now because they haven't had tough calls to make
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  Speaker 1: correct so they just put their head down.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there was no help in that. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: go to my mom and say, hey, can you call
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  Speaker 2: for me right now? You get a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: kids wants you to help them.
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  Speaker 1: There was no help.
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  Speaker 3: You were on an island.
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  Speaker 2: Here was like man press coverage. You're by yourself against
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  Speaker 2: an elite receiver, and you better make the play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's a stupid, not stupid. Here's an obvious observation
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  Speaker 1: before Hoppy's obvious observations. When we were on the Arizona trip,
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  Speaker 1: we spent considerable time on the Arizona campus because we
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  Speaker 1: had an extra day, so we walked the campus and
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  Speaker 1: one of the days I was waiting for someone I
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  Speaker 1: don't know whatever it was, and I was just sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and I'm watching the students are matriculating around the campus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're exactly right, hoppy they I never realized it. No
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  Speaker 1: one talks.
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  Speaker 2: No, you could.
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  Speaker 1: Be in a church and it would be louder, very quiet.
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  Speaker 1: Heads are down. For those that are talking, they're talking
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  Speaker 1: to someone on a FaceTime Yeah. Yes, So like now,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, you walk your round campus and
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  Speaker 1: you're talking to your people. That blew my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Headphone usage.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to scream at the top of my lugs. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: do you realize and understand why you can't communicate? That
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  Speaker 1: blew me away? That's an absolute old man observation. But
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  Speaker 1: it was an old guy. But what the frick?
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  Speaker 4: I think one thing you missed there, another old guy,
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  Speaker 4: is you miss being being required or forced or having
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  Speaker 4: to communicate with people that you don't know or aren't.
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  Speaker 3: Already comfortable with. Yes, which is a lesson in life is.
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  Speaker 4: Like somebody, you run into somebody, how are you going
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  Speaker 4: to interact with them?
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  Speaker 1: You're on it, hobster b an that way. Just that
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  Speaker 1: kind of just made me go, okay, just me, well,
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  Speaker 1: all right. I haven't talked to Jake about this, but
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  Speaker 1: it's time for time for hoppies obvious observation. Let's se
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  Speaker 1: if'n get the video against can we get there? Do
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  Speaker 1: we have the video game? We might able to do
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  Speaker 1: that again? We might, we might, we might. We've done again.
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  Speaker 3: We did well.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't tell them. It is my fault.
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  Speaker 3: That's all right. We can go right into it.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: Wait, wait a second, just go blue screen, blue screen,
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: We go blue screen back in. Oh, that's that's okay, Jake,
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. We'll just do this.
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  Speaker 2: He's got thoughts that sound brand new.
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  Speaker 4: Thing we wait, okay, all right, let's just go.
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  Speaker 3: This is not good.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's kind of like the Mountaineers for a Saturday,
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  Speaker 4: just like a lot of fails, a little bit off.
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  Speaker 2: Jake's now in the building. Jake has come into the room.
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  Speaker 1: Huh okay, all right, we're gonna make it. Yeah, what
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: the hell? Just a podcast? I mean, this is what
• 10:45
  Speaker 1: you're supposed to.
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  Speaker 3: This is not sharp talk about community.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't just communicated, just walked in communicated.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Jake, here we go. We're gonna run it in three,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: my goodness, and three and two and in one.
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  Speaker 5: He's got thoughts that sound brand new, but that things
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  Speaker 5: we already knew he got.
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  Speaker 3: His bomb ready.
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  Speaker 5: Heaven knows, I take it quick before his livation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that was right on, That was yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: was dead on.
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  Speaker 1: Jake and I got a certain work together.
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  Speaker 4: I feel now I feel guilty raising questions about Saturday's game,
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  Speaker 4: and we just had a really bad performance ourselves there
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  Speaker 4: in the answer. Okay, So here's the word that came
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  Speaker 4: to mind. The word is disappointment. Disappointing on several fronts. First,
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  Speaker 4: you lose the first game this season at Whole Coliseum,
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  Speaker 4: so you didn't protect the home court. Disappointing for the
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  Speaker 4: fans who came out on a very very cold day,
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  Speaker 4: made the effort to be there and really didn't and
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  Speaker 4: they tried to make a difference and really didn't respond
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  Speaker 4: enough anyway. Disappointing in the way West Virginia played. Got
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  Speaker 4: off to a slow start again, slow start again, and.
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  Speaker 3: Then you spend the whole game.
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  Speaker 4: Then it takes so much effort to try to make
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  Speaker 4: that up. And coach Odge talked about being disappointed, and
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  Speaker 4: he puts so much emphasis on defense. Ton't hed been
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  Speaker 4: disappointed in the defense early, So you get behind and
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  Speaker 4: it takes it.
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  Speaker 3: Takes all this energy.
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  Speaker 4: Because it starts on the defensive end, and then at
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  Speaker 4: the end in the second half, you go through the
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  Speaker 4: stretch where you're not making shots and some of us
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  Speaker 4: just and Brad, you'll have numbers on this, some of
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  Speaker 4: us just you're not making shots.
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  Speaker 3: And some of it is it.
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  Speaker 4: Takes all this efforts defensively to get back in the game.
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  Speaker 4: It's not always easy to go down when you're exhausted
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  Speaker 4: and try to make shots. So there's a risk reward
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  Speaker 4: to some of that. There's a cost to that effort
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  Speaker 4: that goes into trying to call your way.
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  Speaker 3: Back in the game.
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  Speaker 4: Disappointing and didn't cost to the game, but disappointed in
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  Speaker 4: the officiating. Big time game between West Virginia and Baylor.
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  Speaker 4: The officiating was not up to the standard of the ballgame.
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  Speaker 4: Coach Hodgs there were times in the second half they
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: were stagnant on offense. Guys where I know we talked
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: about there were sets where you're not supposed to move,
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  Speaker 4: but he talked about times when the guys weren't moving.
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  Speaker 4: They were just he said, they were tired, just didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to move, didn't shoot.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you'll get into the numbers there. Obviously, honor was
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  Speaker 3: off and in the.
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  Speaker 4: Second half they did a much better job against Eagle staff.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, you know the other thing is, and you
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  Speaker 3: guys talked about this going in.
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  Speaker 4: You all were worried and appropriately Baylor's got guys, they
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  Speaker 4: got They got guys right, and Scott Drew knows how
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  Speaker 4: to coach. And you figured at some point this season
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  Speaker 4: it was he didn't want to look at the record.
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  Speaker 4: He looked at at some point this season they were
• 13:48
  Speaker 4: going to get start to get it together, right, they
• 13:50
  Speaker 4: were going to start to play better. And they did.
• 13:53
  Speaker 4: They started to play better Saturday, and coach Drews said,
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  Speaker 4: we finally defended at a level where we could win.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they did. I'll get to that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They guarded, so they guarded. West Virginia had you know,
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: had trouble. So you know, if you'd played just a
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: little bit better, I think, you know, you could have
• 14:13
  Speaker 4: you could have pulled that one out.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was close. Forget the ten points, it
• 14:17
  Speaker 3: was close.
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: Dane was decided in the first half. It was over
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: in the first half. Scott Drew wins ninety percent of
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: his games when he leads, it happen.
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  Speaker 3: I heard you with that stat if you.
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: Don't come out and you are the hammer instead of
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: the nail at a start of a game like that,
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  Speaker 1: which West Virginia wasn't they were the Now they got hammered.
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: That was it. Ballgame.
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  Speaker 4: And we talked about guys. I mean, Cameron Carr is
• 14:40
  Speaker 4: a dude. He had a great game, yesufu Ogbaen. I
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: mean they just good players. Good players made more plays,
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  Speaker 4: made more plays. So overall, the word for me is disappointing.
• 14:53
  Speaker 4: Now you have the road game at Cincinnati. They're coming
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  Speaker 4: off a twenty six point loss to Arizona at Arizona.
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  Speaker 4: But everybody loses Arizona. So the bear Cats two games back,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: beat Baylor at home by ten. You got to go
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: to Cincinnati, and now you've got these games coming up, Brad.
• 15:07
  Speaker 4: You got on the road against Cincinnati, then you got
• 15:10
  Speaker 4: Texas second home, then you got UCF and BYU.
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  Speaker 3: This is a defining stretch right here, tough stretch right
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: right now.
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  Speaker 4: You're in pretty good shape in this league when you're
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: you got what five wins, you're just one. You're one
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  Speaker 4: back in the win category from the upper half of
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: the league. So you're in good shape there and you're
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: two ahead in the win category in the lower parts.
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  Speaker 4: So you're right there, You're okay, But Brad, this stretch
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  Speaker 4: is next four to five games.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Hugeugh, yep, Okay.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: We talked about the women, but that was a great
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: win for the women. Knocked off number fourteen Baylor, the
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  Speaker 4: co leader in the league.
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  Speaker 3: We talked about the.
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  Speaker 4: Thirteen steels, thirty turnovers, Wheeler had her six double double,
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: six thousand fans there. So just a great win for
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: West Virginia women rifle team. So I suspect that Army
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: and Navy have great sharpshooters. One would hope, one would
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: hope for our national defense. And I'm sure that they do.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: But Saturday before the basketball game, they're at the range,
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: at the range, at the range. What's at the Bill McKenzie.
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  Speaker 1: Is the McKenzie shooting range.
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  Speaker 3: It's the McKenzie shooting range.
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  Speaker 1: He's got his name on it. Yeah, I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 4: They're at the Bill McKenzie Mobile rifle range in the
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  Speaker 4: Shell building.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he's got the mobile unit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got WVU knocks off Army and Navy. Army
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  Speaker 4: and Navy.
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  Speaker 1: That's a good Saturday right there.
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  Speaker 3: The Air Force wasn't available.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen at all.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: You take off both what has just taken home the
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  Speaker 2: whole Commander in chiefs bring it right over here.
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  Speaker 3: Same day.
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  Speaker 4: If WVU defeats Kentucky's Saturday, the Mountaineers will claim their
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: seventeenth Great American Gark. Yeah, the Gark, the Great American
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Rifle Conference title, like the Gark. And they're third in
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: a row. But I thought you beat Army and Navy.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: That's a good day.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: Two other obvious observations benefits of winning a national championship.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: What do you get?
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: You get recruiting, you get donations, you get ticket sales.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: You know what else?
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: You get merch, big time merch sales. This is from
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Sports Business Journal. Around ninety four licensees have hopped on
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: the Indiana University licensing program, and there are retailers and
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: licensees saying it's the largest championship market ever.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: They have the most alums. Because they have the most alums.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: Well documented, seal stuff, sell stuff.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: And finally, a little trivia question for you guys, I
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: think you'll get it on this day in nineteen seventy
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: This day, nineteen seventy February second, This college athlete became
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: the first college basketball player to reach the three thousand
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: point mark.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Loewell Sender or Elvin Hayes.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: Seventy nineteen seventy other hint three years his team never
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: went to Pete Marrivitch. Pete Merrivitch did on February second,
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: nineteen seventy scored forty.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Nine three thousand points.
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  Speaker 4: Scored forty nine in LSU's one O nine ninety one
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  Speaker 4: victoria of Mississippi State. By the way, there was no
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: three point shot. No, there was no shot clock, no,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: and freshman couldn't play.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: And no elastic around the tops of his socks. Oh
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah?
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: Did it in three seas one.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: In three seasons, he finished with three thousand, six hundred
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: sixty seven points and was the all time leading scorer
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: in men's and women's college basketball until.
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Caitlin Clark.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I loved him, man, I used to watch him. I
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: loved him in the NBA.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I went back, I do that this day in history,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: just for fun. I went back. I saw that, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: I got went down a rabbit hole, started watching.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Him, watch a lot of his stuff. Man, he was indretible,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: different dude, he was incredible. Well West Virginia connection, of course,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: as dad coached Davis and Elkins, where you you have
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: an honorary degree from.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Don't you not know? Wesleyan same thing, same league, same
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: in that in.
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: That three years they never made the tournament because only
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: twenty five teams got in at that time. Yeah, he
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: averaged forty He averaged forty three points a game. There's
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: forty three points a game with no three point shot.
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: Played about ten years in the show kind of you know.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Sad Ending died of a heart attack while playing basketball.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Out of he was he was nineteen eighty eight at
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: the age of forty. He was playing basketball a pickup game.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Died from an undetected heart defect. Undetected heart defense.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Was playing with James Dobson from Focus on the Family. Wow,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: really in a pickup game when he collapsed.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Well, so just that that Brad to score that many
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: points win there's no three point shot. And somebody went
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: back and looked at his shots actually did an analysis.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how many would it have been?
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Even and you look at the look at the highlights,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: he's way he's way back there. If the three point
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: line had been in effect, he would have averaged sixty
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: seven points again.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Right, that's a good one. That's some work to go
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: back and do that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so anyway, a little trivia for you. That's all
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  Speaker 4: I got.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hop already said what I was going to lead with.
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  Speaker 2: We talked all week. Let's let's look back and look
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: at what we said going into this game and what
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  Speaker 2: came to fruition. What did not the first thing we
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: said We sat up here and said, listen, this is dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Well look out for this team. There's some talent there.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Just didn't feel good about that game. Tony I had
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: an uneasy feeling about that thing all week, especially after
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: their loss to Cincinnata and the way Car played in
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: that game. First thing we pointed out was the elite
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: offensive rebounding prowess of this Baylor program, not just this
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: particular team, but that's a Scott Drew trait. This team
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: was ninth in the country and offensive rebounding percentage coming
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: into the game had four players in the top level
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: ven percent nationally in offensive rebounding, so they were very,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: very good. Got a lot of their points from second
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: chance points. We also though, thought there was an opportunity
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: for West Virginia to return the favor and get some
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: offensive rebounds and second chance points on the other side,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: because the Bears had struggled, believe it or not, with
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: defensive rebounding and big twelve play, so offensive glass thought
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: to be a big key both ways. West Virginia did
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a great job in this one. Normally hoppy, you walk
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: out and you take all of these numbers, Yes, twelve
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: to ten second chance advantage for Baylor, so you only
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: lost that category by two percentage of second chance points.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Nineteen percent of Baylor's points came that way, eighteen point
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: nine percent of West Virginia's points came that way. That's
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: the second best offensive rebounding percentage for West Virginia in
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: a Big Twelve Conference game. Most of those in the
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: second half. That kept you in that But that was
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: something I thought if you were going to lose, it
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was because that category would get way out of whack.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: It didn't. You held your own on that. We talked
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: about Baylor being a good shooting team, specifically when you
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: guarded them. This was something that stood out to me
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: as an area of concern because I figured West Virginia
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: would guard them. But this was a Baylor team that
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: came in top twelve percent nationally in points per possession
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: on guarded catch and shoots. So this is a team
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: that even when you guarded them, made shots that this
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: might wow you. Baylor had twenty three points off guarded
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: catch and shoots, the second most all season for Baylor.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: The most they had in that category came in their
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: very first game of the year, in a bye game,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: so in their only the most points scored in a
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: meaningful game off guarded catch and shoots came in this one.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: They scored zero points on unguarded catching shoots. Zero they
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: had nineteen total catch and shoots, eighteen of them were guarded,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: so they made tough shots. You did not. They did.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: So if you want to stop and we can go
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: on to the next thing, you can, because that was
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: really the game right there. I'll get into some more stuff,
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: but that was kind of a wow to me. Out
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: of nineteen jump shots, eighteen classified as guarded. So that was, obviously,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: as you would expect, the fewest unguarded shots in a
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: game that Baylor's had all season. We mentioned the Bearers
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: get to the free throw line quite a bit, top
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: one hundred team and the seventy fourth percentile in free
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: throw attempt rate, and they don't put opponents on the
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: line top forty nationally and not putting you on the line.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: Actually this came out in West Virginia's favor, and you
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: were in really good shape here. West Virginia got to
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: the line. They Baylor did not just a nine percent
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: free throw attempt rate in the one percentile nationally, So
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: West Virginia did a really good job of guarding without fouling.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: Put them on the line only five times. Flipping around
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: the other way, you got to the line eighteen times.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: You made twelve of them plus eight points at the line. Yeah,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: you would have liked a couple more that might have helped,
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: but that you won that category. We said watch out
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: for Cameron Carr, coming off a season worse performance. He
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: led them with sixteen, but West Virginia again made it tough.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Credit Jasper Floyd again six to fifteen from the floor
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: for Car, a game high for both team. Seven turnovers,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: so he got sixteen and he had twelve rebounds. I
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: get it, but you did enough with those seven turnovers. Defensively,
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: you made it tough on him. Agmen was very good
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and picked up the slack, but Cameron Carr you kind
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: of held in check coming off what was his worst
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: performance of the year. Let's talk about West for Denney's
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: offense for a second, because I thought that's where it
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: really got you. And I'm going to go into some
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: numbers here that I think illustrate that. I thought Baylor's defense,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: as Scott Drew outlined there, that's what jumped out to me.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I thought they were really good. West Virginia only got
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: one guarded catch and shoot all game. So we look
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: at Honor's numbers, just you're not winning it. Just simple
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: is that you're not gonna win when Honor has the
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: kind of day from the floor that he did, a
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: lot of tough shots for him. Nothing came easy except
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: the couple in the corner where he did. They weren't
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: classified as on guarded, but they were great looks for Honor.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Got a guy up, guy flies by him, you're down three.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: He had two threes from the corner down three that
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: could have changed the game there. Late We'll get into
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: some of that when in the five games when Honor
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: has the fewest catch and shoot jumpers. Okay, so there's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: on the on the five games when he's got the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: fewest catch and shoot jumpers just never mind guarded aro
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: on guard, just the fewest total number of catch and
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: shoots Westford and he's one in four. So that tells
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: you something, right, I mean, we know he's got to
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: go offensively, and I thought Baylor did a great job
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: of taking that away. They also took Tray away after
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: that stretch, and quite frankly, I thought that it was early,
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: but I thought you just took control of that game
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: when he made that second consecutive three Tray I'm talking
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: about now. That was his ninth point of the game
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: and he was rolling. He got that with eight twenty
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: nine to go in the first half.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Didn't score the rest of the game.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they I thought, that's as good a job
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: as we've seen in a close game. Houston probably did
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: the best job, but that's a really good job by Baylor.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I thought of taking honor and Tray away and saying,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: other guys are going to have to be and man, guys,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: there were other shots. There were other shots available in
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: the lane. I'll get into those coming up here. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: just a little bit that you couldn't you couldn't finish.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You tied a season low for field goals in this game,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: and threes. Here's where I thought the game was decided.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And I understand your point in the first half and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: that stat was Scott Drew. But I thought, this is
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: the death knell to me. At eleven twenty nine in
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the second half, West Virginia had forty seven points on
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the board. They'd scored forty seven points with eleven twenty
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: nine to go in the second half. Fast forward to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: the very last play of the game. Jasper scored in
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: essence at the buzzer with one second remaining to land
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: on fifty three four point. That means you went eleven
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: minutes and twenty eight seconds and scored four points. And
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I do think fatigue with some of it. I think
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: that the grind defensively that you were putting forth, which
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: was an elite defensive effort to climb back in it.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: And I think Baylor was tired too. Yes, they were
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: guarding you at the other end. That was just standing
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: in the center of the rain, just throwing punches, and
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I do think it affected both offenses. But guys, you
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: had eleven twenty eight on the clock and you could
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: only manage four points. That to me was the biggest
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: part where you went, oh my gosh, you just they
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: felt like they were trying to hand you in the game.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: You kept getting turnover after turnover, you kept getting stops.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You were doing a great job there, But man, how
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: many multiple layups miss layups? Did we have multiple misses
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: on those little jump hooks from point blank range.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: When you get some creation, how many layps are missed?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'm coming so we missed a bunch of those shots.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I mentioned the two honor threes that normally you would take.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But again, there's some fatigue, so it's easy for me
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: to say, make those open threes, but he missed those.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Here's the numbers. Okay, eight for fourteen at the rim
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: for the game, eight of fourteen at the rim.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Surprising.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: That's not very good.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I thought it'd be worse. Yeah.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Still, that's a lot of misses for not a
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: lot of shots. Remember you're not You don't have a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: lot of shots. Thirteen of twenty nine in the lane
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: or at the rim. Yeah, that's so forty five percent.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: So there were opportunities there, and I thought your offense
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: was reacting to them taking away your shooters by getting
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: it down into the paint. You just could not finish turnovers.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about those for a second, because those are
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: starting to get a little bit concerning. Eighteen point three
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: percent turnover percentage against Baylor. That's the sixth Big twelve
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: game with an eighteen percent or higher number. I think
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: you're a little fortunate to be three and three in
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: those games. West Virginia is now sixteenth out of sixteen
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: in turnover percentage in Big twelve play. So Ross would
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: tell you happy, if you're going to limit possessions offensively,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: you cannot turn it over at a rate that's nearly
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: almost one in five possessions. That's got to get cleaned
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: up here pretty quickly. You're also not countering that enough
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: defensively twelve out of sixteenth the opponent turnover percentage. And
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: so that's another part here, guys, as you look at
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: what needs to happen offensively, West Virginia is gonna slow
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: the ball down and control tempo, which works on the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: defensive end. We've seen that. That's what when they've won games,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: it's because of that. But if you're struggling to make
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: shots in big stretches, you've got to find ways to
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: get some easy points. You're not really doing it off
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: points off turnovers lately, and you're not getting to the
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: free throw line enough either. You're thirteenth in the league
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: and free throw attempt rate and then fifteenth in the
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: league and free throw percentage when you get there. So
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: nothing easy offensively right now. And that's part of why
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: you've seen the stretches of struggling on the offensive end.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Now another reason for some of that. I'm going to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: jump ahead, like do a kind of season look right now.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Eric Haslam, who runs haslo Metrics, a respected site, of
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: his top fifteen defensive efficiency teams. You just put this
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: out today. Iowa States one, Houston four, Arizona five, Kansas eleven,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: Clemson's fourteen. So nearly a quarter of West Virginia's opponents
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: so far this season have been in the top fourteen
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: in defensive efficiency. So sometimes that's going to make the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: offense not quite work right. Ken Palm thinks it's been
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: even tougher. Twenty seven percent of West Virginia's opponents in
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: his top fifteen, including Arizona, Iowa State, Cincinnata, Houston, Kansas,
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: and Clemson in that particular area. So there you go.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: There's more. That's kind of the the eleven twenty eight
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: where you only got four points when the game was
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I thought there for the taking. That's the part that
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: was a bummer.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: There was that whatever it was, four five, six, seven
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: minutes Tony where nobody was scoring, and it was just
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: like Brad said, just like punchers in there, can somebody
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: land a punch. Good defensive play on both ends, and
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: neither team during that stretch could really take advantage. Then
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: West Virginia continued to be cold, and Bay were made
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: to a couple shots.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: You were walking up a hill the entire game. Baylor
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: led the game for basically thirty seven minutes. Thirty six
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: minutes and fifty six seconds. West Virginia had the lead
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: for two twenty four It was tied once and the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: lead changed hands only three times the whole game. Wow,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: So you were literally you were trying to catch up
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: for forty minutes basically.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: And you know, when you play teams like that that
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: are struggling, and I've been on many teams like that,
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: hop when you get them down finally, that's the point
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: where you got to crush because there's a there's an
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: internal feeling that gives you the here we go again evidence.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Look at Kansas State, they got absolutely obliterated by Iowa
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: State on Saturday, had no fight left in them. They
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: get down big. What do they say when I were done?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: So I would have liked to see that coliseum was
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: hopping when Trey hit that last three. It was rolling.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: You would grab the lead if you could attacked on
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: a couple more buckets there. You wonder what that Baylor
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: team that was struggling mightily and had been on the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: road for a week, what they did instead that give
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: them credit, they clawed back in You're right, Drew's a
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: very good coach. They climbed back in it, and then
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: they were in a game and just said, all right,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: we're here, we might as well go win it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Well, the reality of it is this, they have more
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: talented players. True, they have more skilled players. They have
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: two guys that right now are being listed in the
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: first round of the NBA Draft. That doesn't mean you
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: can't beat them, But what it means is you have
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: to play at a really, really high level of efficiency.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: You can't go eleven plus minutes scoring four points. And again,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the game gave Baylor the confidence and
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the breath and the life that it needed coming off
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: a loss against Cincinnati. They got in here Thursday night,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: they played Lucy Goosey, they played with nothing to lose,
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: and they said let's get after it. And West Virginia
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: did not respond to that initial charge and as a
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: result was climbing up the hill the whole game.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: It is frustrating, though, because those two guys are referring
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: to went eleven of twenty seven with nine turnovers on
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: the day. I mean, that's a winnable formula. You held
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: those guys in check for the most part that game
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: was there. That's going to be a that's gonna be
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: one you're going to look back on and be disappointed.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: And they was there.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: It's interesting too that when Kansas comes in, you go
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: good Kansas. Because West Virginia does well against Kansas at home.
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: Baylor comes in, Oh, Baylor.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: No team's had more success in Morgantown than Baylor. They're
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: nine to four now.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: And that's most that's been recent because West Virginia early
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: on was was the more successful. As we mentioned, there's
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: been a number one Baylor team rolled into the coliseum
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and got beat. But it's been in this in this
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: four years of turmoil for West Virginia, Baylor's really taking
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: advantage of those games. That's where they've made their hay
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: in this series.
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: One thing that I like, one of the many things
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: I like about coach Hodge is he doesn't throw players
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: under the bus. He takes personal responsibility. He always talks
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: about well when they when they in that during that
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: drive period, he says, I need to maybe I need
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: to call better stuff, I need to be a better coach.
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, he takes he takes responsibility for the outcome
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: of the games.
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when things don't go well.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: And he's not just saying that, I mean he thinks that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I mean when he went back and watched the film,
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: he was thinking, all right, what could I have called
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: differently to get there? But again, you did get some shots.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, at some point you just gotta gotta make
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: some shotts and West Forradian didn't in this game. Now
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: you're you're due somewhere along the line to start making
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: some shots. But I do think Big twelve teams have
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: have certainly stepped up their perimeter defense. You're down to
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: double digit threes in one of the last six games,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: So teams are doing a good job now of taking
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: away your shooters and saying, go ahead, you want to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: score in the paint, go scoring the paint. But we
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: are absolutely not letting your shooters right, take these shots away.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati was the one where you made some shots against,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: which is the next coming game. Now you're walking into
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: their building. They're playing better. They certainly haven't quit. But
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: that's a team you you scored against from distance last
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: time you did.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But that's an aberration because statistically they guard well, they
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: What they guarded you, well, yeah, you mad, you just
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: made some outside shots. You had as many threes as
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: you did twos in that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Game, and Tony, to your point, it's starting at Ko Tandrafertz,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: it's starting to look a little bit like a trend
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: of these slow starts four games.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Can't get behind, Yeah, get behind, and hopefully these guys
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: get that lesson. They understand that because you can't play
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: with these teams and just think every game you're going
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to be able to come back.
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't work, especially especially when when your offense
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: is predicated upon slowing down the game, limiting possessions, those
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: kinds of things. It's like every possession becomes huge. It's
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: not going to be a one o nine, one o
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: six game.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: Credit Jasper. There's not a lot of individual shoutouts, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: realized when you don't win the game. But I mean,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: he was really good again defensively, he just he is
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: so good on ball. As I've mentioned many times, nine
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: rebounds led you in that category. Four of those were offensive.
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Asper with a really really good night. Nine
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: rebounds at your point guard. You don't see that very
• 38:34
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  Speaker 1: All right, So, as we said, Cincinnati is coming up
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the rare Thursday Sunday games coming up for the Mountaineers.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: We've got a Super Bowl Sunday game at home, one
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: o'clock tip this coming Sunday, and then the Cincinnati game
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: is a seven o'clock game in Cincinnati. And at this point,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, you know what I mean, Like,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what do it mean just like this
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: is this is separation time in college basketball. This is
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: where some teams go south and some teams stay the
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: same and some teams go north. Like just take a
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: look as we get into this week, as Brad said,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: you've got two four to six eight teams right now
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: with winning records in the league, and you've got from
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: the next round down they're at least one to two
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: games under. Those teams are Oklahoma State, You've got one
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: game against them, Cincinnati, you've got them this week, TCU
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you've got them later, Utah, Kansas State. You've got five
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: of your nine games left against teams currently below you
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: in the standings. You have five league wins. You're with me,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. You're following how this is gonna work.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So like like in the old meat Loaf song, So
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: what's it gonna be? Yes or no? Which way you're going?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Which way you're going. I'll find it fascinating because this
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: team has the opportunity to win more games, but they
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: have got to telling up really really fast and really
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: really quick. And you got to find a way to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: get on her going and tracing going, because obviously coming
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: out of that game on Saturday, they were off and
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: they shot a combined four for twenty and you can't win.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: You just can't win. And then even with all that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: being said, point blank shots in front of the rim.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: That'll be the one memory I take from that game. Yep,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: one to two feet away from the rim. It would
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: not go in.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: It was weird.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: It was It was like I kept while I was
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: listening to you guys and watching it, I was thinking
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: of like one of those old carnival games where you
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: shoot the basket and like, oh, I gotta do is
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: make it, make a couple of baskets, and we know
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: the rim is just the exact same size of the ball.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: You think they should have you think they should have
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: measured it.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: It felt like that just bouncing. I mean, there was
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: not a saw. It was not a forgiving rim.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's why I just I'll walk away from that,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: just feeling like that was there, It was there for
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: you taking. You just needed a couple plays, a couple
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of shots to go down there in that stretch we
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: mentioned and I think that goes the other way, but
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: alas it did not.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: It was somebody, I mean just missed a shots they
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: normally made just missed a layup. It happens, Yeah, it is.
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: Did you want to talk about the I mentioned officiating
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: didn't cost West Virginia the game, but there were some
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: weird calls in there.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Flagrant. You guys are gonna move on.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Well, I would say this about that. Yeah, it was
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: less it was less than optimal. One would call it suboptimal.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: But you also you made three times more You made
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: three times more shots than they made at the foul line.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: You took thirteen more file shots. Yeah, so yeah, I
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: get it now. The women's game, on the other side,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: the officials had a bad day, plain and simple, a
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: bad day, bizarre calls consistently, and that game's on ESPN two.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: That doesn't represent well. And someone I was listening to said,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: you know, they might want to take one of the
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: guys at the scores table and let him ref. Well,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: it's none other than Morgantown's own Bill Titus. He runs
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the score clock down there at the table. He only
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: worked multiple final fours as a women's efficiency. You know, what,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: what do you think, Brad? You know, kind of like
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: have him put the black and white shirt on, just
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: just kind of go over he's to ref games here
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: at West Virginia. Yeah, Titus, go back out there.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, Yes you had a free throw advantage,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: but that's not the only indication of how the officiating went.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: You should have had more free throws. Quite frankly, there's
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: timing involved in when the calls are made, and I
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: thought they were a couple that went against West Virginia
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: that weren't necessarily the accurate call that came it very
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: in opportune times, like massively in opportune times. So it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: what I often say, two things can be true at once.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: The officiating cannot have had had its ideal day and
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: you didn't play well enough to get to win. Both
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: of those things can be true true. So in fact,
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: that's that's how I walked away from that game. Yes,
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: you had a massive free throw advantage. You should have.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: There were a couple inopportune calls at times that really
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: really took opportunities away that might have swung that game.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: The flagrant on Brennan Laurent was horse crap. It's a
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: basketball play. The honor Huff getting absolutely tomahawked across the
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: forearms e xuling up for an underhand scoop would have
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: put two shots on the line. I mean, how do
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you miss that?
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: I don't know, because the official was right there. I
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: don't know how you missed that. All right, anyway, not
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: of that you need. But again, two things can be true.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: You didn't play well enough.
• 44:33
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  Speaker 2: Heard of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I was with him Friday over at the Distinguished
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  Speaker 4: You know who knew who really got into it. President
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  Speaker 4: Oh he was killing it. Yeah, I mean he didn't
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  Speaker 3: I was sending love. I didn't know anything about that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're not one.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't say I was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a really nice night. Mike Florio was in there.
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  Speaker 1: Let me to check missus Mazie a great story. She
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  Speaker 1: at several institutions. Across the country, including bowling Green. She
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  Speaker 3: How's Florio doing well?
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: He's at the super Bowl right now, but uh got
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: emotional really yeah, yeah, old tough guy Floria.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unusual for him, very.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Unusual, which made me. It was good because it showed
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  Speaker 1: to it meant something to him. You know, one thing
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know my son he was we were in
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: we went to Pittsburgh and we were talking about that.
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  Speaker 4: Mellon and I didn't. I decide not to go there.
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• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my oldest son, Michael, got a call he could
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• 47:46
  Speaker 1: So we went up there one day, walked around on campus,
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: probably about fifteen twenty minut Seddid a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a visit, I said, Mike, I don't think so. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think he's in total agreement with me. Meanwhile, Texter,
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• 48:26
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  Speaker 1: four of the top seven are Michigan, Ohio State, Indiana.
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  Speaker 1: The other three of the top seven all fired their
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  Speaker 1: become some friction in the alliance between the Big ten
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  Speaker 1: He says, ps, I appreciate Tony explaining the last episode
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  Speaker 1: by marriage? That really connected the dots formula. Oh, good,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: old Pete from Pennsboro.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Boy, they're not giving any slack Tony.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they're not. Pete from Pennsburgh. Not his real name.
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Imagine that.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's a guy that works at United Bank.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: He got he got revealed one day by someone. So
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: that's that Pete from Pennsboro. That's actually blowblows whatever name
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: is for me. United Bank's. Okay, uh, Texter, No Valentine's
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: Delight popcorn. This year, we did have the Valentine's. We're
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: not doing the Valentine's home Run three all four, So
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: tell your significant other that really the home Run three
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: oh four is really the Valentine's popcorn. Ted from Colorado.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I laughed at your discussion of Coach Hodge and the crouch.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Growing up in Wyoming County with coal miners, it was
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: not called the crouch when coal miners assumed that position.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: They were hunkered down. I think the crowd should be
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: replaced with hunkered down.
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good suggestion you might want to
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: think about that.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: I don't like it, okay, Evan and Evan and Arlington, Virginia.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I ran in a I ran into Gortat in the
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: grocery store. A few times. You could see him from
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: an aisle over. Now he played in DC. The screen.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: So this guy Evan sees him in these shoppings.
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: He's setting up a screen in Aisle six. He might
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: he might be. He might work for the Wizards.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Right now, now I'll check. I want to hear a funny story.
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: Remember Minut Bowl. How tall was he?
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Seven seven seven? So when he played for the seventy
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: six ers, the seventy six Ers used to use Saint
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Joe's Jim for their shoot arounds or their their shoot
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: around I think on the day of the game. So
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: West Virginia would play Saint Joe's. So a couple of
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: times we were there twice I saw it. So we
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: would shoot around and then the Sixers would come in
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: after us, and then we would walk out and Minut
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: Bowl had you remember those conversion vans. Yes, okay, drove
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: a converts but they had cut they had cut the
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: roof off of it and put an extender on the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: thing that allowed him to drive it, because if he didn't,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: his head would be oh my god, right, kind of
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: like Fred Flintstone. He had popped his head through this
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: so that I always remember Minute Bowl because of that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: Similar to Josuiak driving the little car he had when
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: he was a little.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: Car that he had, Yeah, sprint fire, whatevery.
• 51:26
  Speaker 4: Gortad is currently head of player development and assistant coach
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: with the Wizards, so.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: He still might be shopping over there.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: He might be.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: As a follow up to your discussion about Nico not
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: yet finding a new team, do you guys talk about
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: that on sports line? I don't remember talking about that
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: here anyway. Eleven thousand plus players entered the portal this year.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: As of the twenty third of January, after the portal closed,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: fifty eight hundred almost fifty nine hundred still looking for
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: a new home. Wow. Twenty percent from FBS, twenty six
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: percent from FCS, fifty four percent from D two's and
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: D three's.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: You're sat. The grass isn't always a greener.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Apparently not. Of the eleven thousand plus kids who entered
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the portal, fifty three percent don't have a home.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: That's incredible.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's that is a that's a relevant stat Brad.
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: Is this saying is seeking to find an equilibrium.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: Seven Power four Conference teams lost at least thirty percent
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: of their offensive and defensive snaps to the portal. Iowa
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: State lost sixty three percent, Oak State fifty three percent,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: which I say good because West Virginia gets to play them.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Auburn thirty nine, Colorado thirty seven, Michigan State Kale thirty four,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Penn State thirty two. Yeah, and Colorado's the only school
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: that didn't have a head coaching change.
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: Iowa State sixty three percent loss covers Penn States thirty
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: two percent.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Seriously, there's a lot there.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: True.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: How about this one? Tony transferred once. I did transfer once,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that was a difficult process. But TJ. Finley,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: a coveted quarterback recruit, has played at seven schools LSU, Auburn,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Texas State, two Lane, Western, Kentucky, Georgia, stating out incarnate word,
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: how in God's name does one get a degree by
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: going to seven schools? Transferring once would be a pain
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: in the butt, but transferring seven times the amazing.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And we talked about this on an episode a couple
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: episodes ago. That one just stuns me. And coveted quarterback
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: recruit probably went away after the second transfer there.
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: All due respect to TJ Hey Jake, I forgot to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: put the graphic, but there's a there's a baseball graphic
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: that has all the UH has a bunch of school
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: logos on it. The WVU it's basketball logos. I don't
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: think people realize how good of a program we have
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: been in the last quarter century. And the gentleman put
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: a centigraphic along with that, and it showed that despite
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: the fact that West Virginia has had this unprecedented turbulence
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: within the program, that WVU against ranked teams still has
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: a very high number over A there. It is right there.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: So most ranked wins in college basketball in the last
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: is that, say ten ten seasons? Does that look great?
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: It's ten, right, and then you can see West Virginia
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: thirty two, So you down.
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: There, Yeah, well there's look you have if you look
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: at it in the larger context, West Virginia is an
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: excellent base in football and basketball and now women's basketball too,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: and it's growing in baseball. So you got good bases
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: the ass in all of those sports.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Texter, I was watching an old West Virginia game
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: and saw play made by a name that wasn't familiar
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: to me. This is football. I figured Tony could tell
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: us a story off of the top of his head
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: about this guy's entire background, including WVU career and where
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: is he now? Tom Briggs. Tom Briggs was an excellent
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: transfer defensive player for the Mountaineers. He was very, very tough.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Came from the Syracuse area, and if memory serves me correctly,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: never got an offer from Syracuse. But he became a
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: very important part of West Virginia's defense and I'd have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: to look into it. But he made a play. He
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: made an extremely significant play in the back of my mind,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I want to say, almost like a game winning play
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: at some point with a sack or something like that.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: But he was tough. He was a tough dude.
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: He played I looked at I'll try to find that Tony.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: That name rings a bell with me too. He played
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: in Arena Football for one, two, three, four, five, six
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: seven teams from nineteen ninety five to two thousand and eight.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Does the list his hometown, Yeah, Syracuse, it says just
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: straight Syracuse. I don't know if it was outside of Syracuse.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Texter John from Oklahoma City. Does Indiana's win for the
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: national title. Add another name to the West Virginia Cradle
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: of Coaches. We talk about that a lot that whole.
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: He wasn't born Kurtzig, Natty was not born here, so
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: it would be a hybrid version of that. You could
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: make another statement for Tony.
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety one, Briggs recorded forty four tackles, five sacks,
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: three fumble, three fumble recoveries.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: It might have been a fumber and one forced fumble.
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: In nineteen ninety two, he totaled forty seven tackles, seven sacks,
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: a forced fumble to fumble recovery. What was his last year?
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: Ninety two was his last year. Well that's what I'm
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: just going off Wikipedia. But that's a good run.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: That's never rung.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: That's a good run.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm just no, I know, I get it.
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: I had thirty seconds to find out.
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: That's fine.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: I love listening to today's episode. You guys were talking
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: about Temple and John Cheney. My mother and I attended
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the game in ninety one where Cheney got tossed before
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: first half was over. I shouldn't even been there. My
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: parents lived in Falling Waters were friends with Gerald Catlet.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It was unusual for Gail to call my dad a
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: couple of times. It wasn't unusual for Gaale to call
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: my dad a couple of times season ask if you'd
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: like to come up for a Saturday afternoon game. Dad
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't feeling well, so I took my mom. When we
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: got to the Colisseum, our seats were second row floor,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: at the end of the court, near what used to
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: be the equipment room. Even at the end of the court,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: we could hear Cheney's language when he received the two
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: technicals back to back. It certainly sounded like he threatened
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: the referee as two West Virginia State Police officers escorted
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: him from the floor. It was one of the most
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: entertaining games we ever saw, signed by Tim in Fairfield Glade, Tennessee. Yeah,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: I would imagine if you're on those baseline seats, you
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: probably heard a little bit there and John was John
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: would have threatened and yeah, anyway, I mean he told
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: John Calaperi's gonna kill him. I'll kill you. You haven't
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: seen that video. Look that one up on the YouTube
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: he was at. I was there.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know where it was.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: It might have been one of the tournaments and something
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: happened during the game and the postgame press conference.
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: He goes off on the officials. Oh yeah, and he's like,
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: find me, that's right, find me, Yeah, assume.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: Do what I mean?
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: He would. He wore his emotions on his sleeves.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: I was doing the Atlantic ten tournament at the Palaestra
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: and Temple was playing against somebody and he lost his mind.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: So he wanted to go after the official. He really
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: truly wanted to run across the floor and go get him.
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: His staff This is absolutely handle Bible. His staff held
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: him back and he was trying to go so hard
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: to get him. He literally went into the air. He
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: literally went into the air, like his head just went
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: like up in the air, and they were hold they
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: they were holding him. He wanted to go across the floor.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: But you know, his players loved him, oh absolutely, and
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: loved him and played for him.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: He was the first dude that practiced in the morning.
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: Practice in the morning, six six in the morning. Come
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: on in, Texter, thanks for the trip down memory lane.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: Talking about the Eastern eight Atlantic ten. I was a
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: freshman eighty eighty one. We went on that long winning
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: streak only to get beat by Pitt in the finals
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: of the conference tournament at the Igloo in Pittsburgh. To date,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I swear that was the most tense and exciting basketball
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: game I've seen in person. The place electric. Hopy would
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: have been there. Speaking of Cheney, people forget then when
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: he come to the coliseum, Oh this is this is true.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: He would purposely switch the sides of the court so
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: that you played on defense in front of your basket
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: in the second half and you had your offense on
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: your end in the first half, just to mess with
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Gail Catlet. Back then, the visiting coach had the option.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Couldn't do that. Today, Cheney was the best ben in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: scott depot.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember that, Did you remember that?
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: So I remember this. Remember Gail used to do his
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: pregame radio interview live.
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, do it live.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: And so he goes and sits down and he's doing
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: his pregame with Jack and it's on the air, and he.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Sees he sees temple.
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: He sees temple on the other side, and he.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: Goes, excuse me, right during the interview, excuse.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Me, Jack, he got up, Oh, he got up, started
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: organizing the traveler. What what what do you you know
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: that was just you could do that back then. That's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: pretty wild.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: What did they play? Was it the two three zone
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: of the.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: They played it now they played it matchup zone, matchup zone, matchup.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Everybody flipped out. Yeah.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Lastly, here got a guy from the Lear South
• 1:00:22
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• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the cheerleaders there on the cheer section and those two
• 1:00:30
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• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it up with the victory over the Baylor Bears. So
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: thanks guys for uh for checking in anything else. Oh
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  Speaker 4: Cheney won seven hundred and forty one games as a
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  Speaker 1: providing value beyond numbers. All right, that'll do it for
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  Speaker 1: US six hundred and ninety four. Episode down and we'll
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  Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday to preview the Mountaineers and the Bearcats.
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  Speaker 1: Stay warm, see you