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Pay Your Dues, Oilers are America's Team, Luka's Title Shot, NFL Win Totals · Three For The Money

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  Here we're back. Three for the Money. New episodes every Thursday. We're here and we're back. How many
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  times am I going to say that? I'll never stop. But I did say it twice today. Okay all right we're
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  back. There is no sports on other than baseball. Now that the conference finals are over for NHL
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  and NBA. So I've been kind of boring the past couple days. I've seen a lot of soccer on TV.
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  I haven't watched it. But I saw that it was on. And that counts for something. Was it like
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  national teams or like MLS or something? It was like dude I don't even know. I couldn't tell you.
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  You don't know who was playing? No there was a crazy man. I'm thinking it was some like European
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  League. Okay. But it was on at night here which doesn't make a lot of sense for the time zones.
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  I mean like like 10 o'clock at night or like 2 30 in the morning. Like what kind of night are we
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  talking about? Like 7 p.m. I mean there's soccer played everywhere. Yeah. Could be like South America
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  or something. I mean yeah. Could be. But okay I'm gonna throw it to Chris. How have you been doing?
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  All right. Gambling's kind of cooled off the last few days since the calendar flipped June.
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  Had some bad beats the last few days. Had a really bad beat today. Not really. I guess you
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  don't want to call it bad beat. It more just really pissed me off real quick. Had Mets first
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  five team togall over two and a half. Finished fifth inning with two runs. So lost. And then before
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  an out was recorded in the sixth inning they scored four runs. So I was furious. But hey that's
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  baseball. It's the way she goes. Yeah. I mean other than that doing all right. Hanging in there
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  taking a day by day. All that all that shit. How are you doing Will? I'm doing okay. I've been
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  betting here and there. Kind of like you know just sort of paying attention to to each book and
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  seeing you know what what boosts are where and if I can get a free bet something like that. I'll
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  just I'll just go to the trend center. Let's see since last week I'm up like two and a half units.
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  Excuse me. Something like that. Thank you. But yeah I think right now. Oh I had a ten dollar
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  free bet for soccer and I put it on Norway minus two twenty five and they won. So that
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  paid out like four forty four. Woohoo. Let's see. Oh I had a I had insurance token. From
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  from last. It was the free bet from the first bet I had for an insurance token.
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  Put that on the Rockies today. And obviously I think Chris knows how that went but
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  obviously they lost. I actually I was gonna say I don't remember how to finish the reds were ahead
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  last time I saw. Well they won twelve to seven. Let's fucking go. And then later on tonight I have
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  the Padres money line against the angels. So. Fuck the Padres. Okay. I've taken them the last two
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  days against the god awful angels and they've lost. Oh. Well they're due. Yeah. I guess I just I saw
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  that on trends today that was like their top trend. I could not do it. I hate the Padres right now.
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  I'm sure it's probably going to win now that I'm not taking it but the Padres are on my shit list.
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  That's okay. Do you respect the do you respect the trend not the team.
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  Oh yeah. I mean the trend had won like 15 in a row or something like that. I would just like
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  last two days I bet against the Padres or bet on the Padres against like I said the god awful
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  angels and they one was first five and they pushed and the last night I had a money line
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  and they were tied going into like the seventh and I think they gave up four in the seventh
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  and they lost and I just I can't do it. If it was any other team I would have bet it but I
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  cannot bet on the Padres right. I did it. And they're probably. What time does that start.
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  Starts at 8 30. 8 30. Yeah. Okay. We have 40 minutes to convince Chris to take the Padres.
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  I mean I'm about I'm thinking about taking it right now honestly. We'll see.
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  I have the pirates money line right now they're ahead knock on wood. They're up by three I think
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  in the seventh if they win I'll take I'll take the Padres. Okay. I used an odds boost on it.
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  50% so it was at minus 150 so now I got it at plus 100. They were minus 150. Yeah. I know it's that.
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  Yeah. It's pretty juicy. A little juicy. So I got it like a team total or something. That makes me
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  nervous. Anyway. But yeah I'm just you know whenever I am browsing the trends I'll I'll check
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  that shit out see what see what a bet MGM gives me not not a sponsor.
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  I'll just boost tokens insurance tokens things like that.
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  And I'll I'll bet that shit. Okay. Sean I know you're not betting. How are you doing personally?
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  Um I'm good. I'm doing good.
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  Yeah. No no complaints really honestly. Oh yeah. Yeah. Let's go. I'm doing pretty good.
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  Vibe. Vibe dude. It's it's it's the summer.
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  Like you can't be in a bad mood in the summer.
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  Not it's not possible. When the Padres give up four in the bottom the seventh you can't be but it's
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  it's fine. Well that's that's why I'm responsibly retired to no peace during the summertime
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  because I just want to relax and just even though you know I still work a full-time job every single day but you know
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  Sean's out here on summer vacation. Yeah. Honestly this is this kind of feels like the closest I've
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  felt to summer vacation since. Because you're not gambling. Yeah. Yeah. I wonder what that's.
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  It's nice. It's nice. Okay. So in the intro I sort of mentioned how there hasn't been really
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  sports in the past few days because of the conference finals those ending. But I did see
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  Chris is he he perked up a little bit and he was like well well so I think is that telling me you
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  have an AFL update. Oh no. Actually AFL has been rather quiet at least from what I've seen this week.
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  So suspicious suspicious. Yes a little suspicious. So I'll keep I'll keep an eye on that but
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  just no sport like the WNBA is not sport. No. Oh. Kate and Clark's idea of just getting body
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  checked into the stands and we're like for nothing apparently. How you do.
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  I mean that's honestly one of the fairest takes I've seen on all I mean honestly like that's not
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  wrong like. Not not a wrong statement. It's I'm sure no I'm sure this has happened to other
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  rookies as well like you know they get pushed around because they're rookies and I don't know
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  man she got like I don't know. She didn't let out but also have we just not noticed because
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  we haven't had a big name. I mean honestly that's fair. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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  This could be the WNBA initiation. You just get like yeah you get body slammed into the third row
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  every week. It's like well fucking way she goes but they're playing on like ESPN 12 and nobody
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  knows. So yeah I mean people are watching. I wouldn't be surprised if you know these girls get
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  I mean I wouldn't be surprised if these girls get you know rough during these games
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  like if people are acting like this is the first time it's ever happened like in the WNBA. I'm
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  sure it's not. I don't know. I don't know but that is this is like we discovered some ancient
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  civilization. We're like hold on. We have to learn their customs before we judge. Gotta pay your dues.
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  You gotta pay your dues to make 40 grand a year. Yeah. I think Angel Reese got fined.
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  It was actually not related to Caitlin Clark. This was she was like got tossed by a ref
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  obviously by a ref maybe a couple nights ago. I think she got fined $300. It's kind of a lot.
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  It's half their salary. It's kind of a lot. I mean it doesn't seem like a little unfair to like
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  for this league to be fining people. I mean the fines are you know a step below suspension.
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  I mean maybe like suspension you lose more money. Maybe I like having to do some like jumping jacks
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  or something. In a sweaty gym where you could watch them. No I'm just saying if you're if you're
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  getting paid pennies maybe don't find them. Okay. Have them run like run the bleachers or something.
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  Don't do this shit. I'm not saying no punishment. I'm just saying fine when you're getting paid like
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  1200 a year. I think no matter what gender you are what sport you play whatever like if you
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  if you do something that's like heinous and worth a fine you get that fine like this is something
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  you do with gender it's the fact that I don't get paid. No I'm I'm just like you're getting paid
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  to play a game and like it doesn't matter like it doesn't matter the dollar amount like if you
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  if you fuck up then you get fined like I don't I don't think it matters the I mean look if they
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  were getting five grand off there I think that's the maximum for the NHL is five grand.
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  I think it's the maximum salary in the WP. It might be but like still like if you get if you
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  get if you mess up and you do something if you fucking elbow somebody you get you get paid to
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  play a game at the end of the day and if it comes out of it it happens in every league.
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  This is really the only thing that makes them legitimate it's that they're finding their players.
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  That's a Lonzo ball offered to pay Angel Reese is fine. Good on you sir.
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  Yeah. Pocket changed it. Yeah.
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  Fuck that guy honestly. Yeah that guy hasn't played in like a year and I mean no fault of his own
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  injuries but still he hasn't played in a year and a half. Did you got I'm I'm going to switch
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  topics from the NBA or for the WNBA real quick since we're on contract talks. So Justin Jefferson
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  just signed his like monster deal right. Yeah. Did you know that he makes less than Ben Simmons
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  per year. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That's insane. It is wild. Okay. Right now. Who plays more games
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  next year. Justin Jefferson or Ben Simmons. Justin Jefferson. Like are you talking. No. No. More
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  games. No more games. More games total or like a percentage of their season. No more games total.
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  Oh I think I mean I question. I probably your question. I'd probably still go Justin Jefferson.
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  Keep it in mind. One of the plays in 82 games. Yeah. I'd probably still go Justin Jefferson.
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  I feel like that is the correct answer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean how many he played like 12. Ben Simmons
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  played like 12 games last year or something. Let me look it up. Well what is your prediction.
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  Shit man. Like I know he he like stepped away because of his mental health or something.
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  I think I think if I'm remembering that correctly I think that was a couple years ago.
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  Really. I thought it was like last year and it was just like I mean I can't get any worse. So
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  that who like you could take your pick of the last five years when that was and you
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  you there's decent chance you were right. I mean I'm just saying like everyone hates him
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  and so he's probably like everyone hates me. I'm from Australia. Last year he played 15 games.
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  So close. That's that's rough. Well Justin Jefferson didn't play the whole season. So that's
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  why I'm looking up Justin Jefferson. I think he I think Justin Jefferson played like seven games
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  before he got hurt. What was his injury though. It was probably something real.
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  Yeah it was something real. It was something with his knee or something. I don't think he tore
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  anything but I think it was something like with his knee. What are you laughing at Will.
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  Something real. Well Ben Simmons injuries are fictitious. Yeah they're made up. He makes them
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  spend Simmons hates basketball. I've been saying this for years. He hates basketball. I'm just saying
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  it was a funny thing to say. It's that's what I'm like. But it's also true. It's very funny but true.
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  Jordan Jefferson played or Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson played 10 games last year.
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  So 10 games. So now it's a fair question. He plays more games. I mean Ben Simmons can't
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  keep doing this right. Yes he can. Yes he can. 100 percent can. But nobody expects anything from him.
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  If he plays more than 20 games people are like look at Ben Simmons he's back.
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  Like nobody expects anything from him. Yeah. He can keep doing this. If he played if he didn't
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  play it all of next season nobody would retire that and I this pisses me off. Just fucking retire.
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  He's got to get paid somehow. Yeah but he's getting bags dude. Yeah. He's getting would you retire from
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  staying money would you retire from something we were making bags. No if no I don't but it pisses
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  me off. Oh yeah me too. But I'm just going to accept because I work so hard for so little and
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  this man does nothing and gets so much. He worked hard at one point. There was a few year stretch
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  where people were Ben Simmons was like hey this could be the guy and then he just forgot how to
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  play basketball and start taking it was the process. He was a part of the process. He was. Yeah he was.
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  Oh shit what was I supposed to say. That's funny. Have you all seen that meme where it's like Ben
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  Simmons posted him himself to an off season workout and people are like you know the summer is
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  officially here when Ben Simmons posts himself playing basketball in an empty gym.
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  Man.
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  That's so sad. No it's not. It's not sad. No he's making generational wealth dude jack shit.
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  It's not sad. I don't care. He's not alone. Someone's got to take those pictures. Someone's
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  got to pass on the ball. I guess you're right. Someone has to take the picture. Also like I
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  feel no sympathy for this grifter whatsoever. Okay.
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  Okay. Let's see. Do we want to get into the playoffs.
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  Oh yeah. They started yet. Yeah. I mean we're talking about the matchup.
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  No we can't. So fast. Yeah. So they okay. Like.
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  Huh. No I just said like they both went by in like five games each.
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  And then now we have like nothing for the next week. Yeah. So the Edmonton Oilers won in six
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  games against the Stars and yeah definitely did not see that coming. I'm gonna be real.
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  So when the Stars tied it up 2-2 that was like it's over. And then they just like caught fire.
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  Now they're winning these games. And like dude this might be it man. Like this might be
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  this might be Connor McDavid's first Stanley Cup. It might be because it's got to happen.
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  It has to happen at some point. So what are y'all's like official. I know well you have
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  an oiler's future. Sean you have an Oilers and you have the Panthers as well. I know you have an
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  Eastern. No. My Eastern was the Hurricanes. Hurricanes. Okay. So I know that well you're for the Oilers.
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  Sean you going for the Oilers. I'm with the Oilers. I don't think they'll win unfortunately.
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  Yeah I don't think they'll win but yeah I didn't think that win last series or really honestly
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  I didn't really think that win the series before either. If it's if they if they win the cup
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  it's the team of destiny. Like that's what this is. And because they have no earthly business
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  honestly winning this cup with them. Yeah. It's weird to say that when they also have
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  the best player on the planet. Yeah I know but that's no I get what you're saying. You are you are
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  right. Yeah it's just a weird thing to say. They have like three good three four great players
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  while like the Panthers are like super deep. The Panthers are super deep. The Oilers have no
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  goaltending like at all. Hey he showed up. He showed up. He showed up these past this. He showed
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  up this series. He did. But yeah it's just I don't know. It's like the Oilers are like they're
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  they have the two best players in the league but that's like that's what it just feels like.
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  That feels like that's all they have while like the Panthers are just so deep.
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  That it's it's it I don't know. That's why I say there'll be a team of destiny because
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  McDavid has to get a cup. Yes he has to get at least one. He has to. Yeah but this is something
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  I found interesting today that the top four picks from the 2020 the 2014 draft are all playing in
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  the Stanley Cup final. Yep with Aaron Eckblad, Sam Reinhart, Leon Drysidle and Sam Bennett.
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  Three of those players are on the Panthers. Top four picks. It's wild.
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  So I unfortunately think the Panthers will take this but I'm rooting for the Oilers.
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  Yeah so the nation of Canada has not won a Stanley Cup in how long? 93.
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  Since 93. I think so. I think that's right. Sounds right. Who won that? The Canadians.
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  Okay I know the Oilers haven't been to the finals since 1990. They haven't been to the
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  finals since 04. Or the last time they won there they haven't won a cup since 1990.
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  Yeah okay. Well I was just thinking like the nation of Canada has not had to stand the Cup
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  winner since 93. How many fans outside of Edmonton are rooting for the Oilers?
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  That's tough. I feel like all the Canadian teams hate each other. Yes it's you know it's
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  what's the team. What's conservatively so. Yeah but would you root for a team that's just
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  specifically in America? Is that why are you rooting for the Panthers? No I'm just saying like
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  that's kind of like a narrative is how Canada has not won a cup in X amount of years.
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  And now they have a chance but I feel like all the teams in Canada hate each other.
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  So is the nation of Canada rooting for the Oilers or are they like no fuck this team.
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  Because we hate them. They're rooting for the Oilers in the sense of like
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  you know we're they're a team from Canada and like there's so few Canadian teams
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  compared to other ones in America. So they're not like they're they're rooting they're you know
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  I hope Edmonton wins but not so much. I was really I was really hoping a lot of Canadians and I don't
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  know what the actual consensus is but I was really hoping a lot of Canadians be like no I hope the
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  Oilers don't win. That way America could claim another cup because if the majority of Canadians
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  are against them then America gets the claim. That's how it works.
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  Well if we think about this logically. If if if the nation of Canada is rooting against the Oilers
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  to win then America against the claim. That's factual. I understand the words you're saying.
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  I don't understand the if the nation of Canada is overwhelmingly against the Oilers winning the cup
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  then it doesn't count as Canada winning the cup. So that means America gets to claim it.
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  By default. Well I don't know. That's just logic. That's just science. I don't know what is so hard
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  to understand. Well logically half of Alberta is not rooting for for the Oilers because yeah I'd say
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  that half is Calgary. Yeah Calgary's the other half of Alberta. And then I was thinking like
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  Vancouver hates Edmonton don't they. Well they just lost to them in the playoffs. So I thought they
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  also had like a rivalry. I could be totally wrong. Maybe. So they're probably rooting against them.
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  Leafs and Canadians I mean like their their fan base is so die hard that like I don't know.
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  I feel like they don't give a fuck about anyone outside of
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  yeah Toronto and or Montreal. Yeah so cross them out.
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  And so like the Lakers the Jets and Ottawa like that's
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  that's and that they could be like and does anyone really care about them.
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  No nobody wants to go to win a peg.
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  And I mean I've heard Ottawa was pretty nice. We'll give them Ottawa.
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  All right we will grant you Ottawa. I just want Canada winning a cup and then a bunch of Canadians
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  to be furious. That would be hilarious. Yeah I don't think the overwhelming consensus is that
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  all Canadians are against the Oilers. I feel like definitely Calgary and Vancouver any team that's
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  in the West is not wanting Edmonton to win but they do want their country to finally get a cup.
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  Maybe. So they're kind of like middle ground but also like if you're in the East
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  like Toronto and the Canadians like they play the Panthers like pretty often.
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  So they're kind of like I don't know about this team. See the vibe I get from Toronto and Montreal
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  is there so like fuck everyone else. We are the best regardless of our history. That's the way I
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  see it. They need to be the ones to win it first. So I think they are secret not maybe not secretly.
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  I think they are wanting Edmonton to lose so they can be the first ones to win it.
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  Good point. Yeah it's just like that shit is not going to happen.
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  Yeah but they're delusional. So yeah.
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  That's a good point. I mean they've been to a cup final recently so maybe they could get back.
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  Whatever. That cup did. I mean Toronto is never going to sniff it. So I'm just saying
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  Montreal it's coming home.
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  This has been quite the meeting of the minds to discuss the hatred within Canada.
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  That's just been I've been thinking about this for a while. It's like I feel like every Canadian team
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  hates each other. So outside of like Ottawa and Winnipeg I feel they all hate each other.
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  So I mean would they be happy if Edmonton. Would Canadians be happy outside of Edmonton
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  if they if the orders won. It would be residual happiness. Like if they didn't want Edmonton
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  to win and then they won they'd be like well at least Canada finally got one first time in 30 years
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  or whatever. And that's kind of the way I see it. Okay. Like a little silence. That makes sense.
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  I just wanted them all to be mad. So the United States get by default claim another cup. Well
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  honestly as an American I'm kind of hoping that Canada gets a cup. Has this been too damn long.
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  I don't know. No not even like a little bit. They beat us. They beat us head to head all the time.
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  I want to keep the cup. Yeah. But this is the if a Canadian team is going to do it.
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  It's this team. It has to be this team. I want the Oilers to win that way next year when it's
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  like an American team versus an American team probably for the cup. I get to tweet like hey
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  it's coming home. Just for a tweet 365 days later. I don't care. Yeah. If it's not the
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  breads. Yeah sure. Which won't be right. So. But yeah it's a interesting point.
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  Well this I don't even know. I'm being honest. I don't even know what side they're on. I wish I
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  knew because I'm really curious now. I am too because I have seen like articles written like
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  I mean I have no idea if they're like actually based in fact or not be like Canada could win
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  their first cup in next many years. Do they really like not do they care but like are they
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  really like wanting it. So that kind of made me think it's like I wonder if they actually like
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  is that true. Yeah. I don't know. It's
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  there's like Canadian bias with with each team and like TSN.
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  You might as well call it Toronto Sports Network. It's it's supposed to be that's what that stood
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  for. And I would believe you. It's supposed to be the sports. Yeah. But it's like very very Canadian.
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  Yeah. If you watch the NHL free agent frenzy then you're it's going to be like oh the National
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  Predators they they signed Ryan O'Reilly to a pretty big pretty big ticket you know for a veteran
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  player. Well let's see how the signing of Ryan Reeves is going to is going to affect the Toronto
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  we're live with Ryan right now in his apartment. Ryan can you help us win the Stanley Cup.
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  Please. You know like I'm just going to go out there and I'm going to be physical and
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  you know I'll protect the boys out there. Ryan do you think we'll go to the playoffs.
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  Oh you know I'm just going to go out there and score some goals and probably not but
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  so it's just like those been 30 seconds on like any other signing but as soon as the Leafs sign
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  some Joe Schmo off the street just jerk them off. Yeah. So I don't know. There's a lot of bias up there.
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  I think you guys might be right about like especially like the Leafs and the Canadians
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  because I found a New York Times article about this Cup final. It's like why the Oilers are
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  not Canada's team in the Stanley Cup final and America's team. They they like they kind of like
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  interviewed some people and they were like look the vibe we got like most the majority of like the
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  diehard hockey fans in Canada being actively rooting for the Oilers as if they were cheering for
• 34:15
  their own team. They were like no. No. It's not their team. Yeah. I mean but like they're they're
• 34:24
  not rooting if you're if you're they're not rooting for the nation of Canada. They're rooting
• 34:29
  they're not but they're also kind of rooting against the Oilers because they're not their team.
• 34:37
  Like that's yeah that's what's funny. That makes me so I think I think I think this might come to
• 34:45
  a close that Canada is not a majority of Canada is not for the Oilers to win the Cup. All right.
• 34:53
  Edmonton Oilers America's team. Let's go. Bring it home baby. Bring it home.
• 35:00
  Bring it home boys. Okay. Moving on from the NHL. We'll touch a little bit on the NBA and then we
• 35:11
  have some some some totals to get out to give out some some some props we like for the NFL season
• 35:20
  but real quick the Mavericks are going to the final with the Boston Celtics and just immediate
• 35:27
  first take by me. I think that this is the Mavericks shot more so than it is the Celtics.
• 35:38
  Like it feels like if the Mavericks don't win it they're not coming back and it feels like if
• 35:45
  the Celtics win it they they can they can just come back or like if they lose they can just come
• 35:51
  back to the finals. I get yeah I get that. Yeah because I felt the Celtics their window I mean
• 36:00
  it has been open open for a while and I feel like it's nowhere near closing. I mean I'm not like
• 36:06
  don't have my thumb on the pulse of the NBA but as a casual it feels like if they don't
• 36:12
  like you say if they don't win this year they could very well be back next year and the Mabs like
• 36:17
  I mean I know Luke is very young but like who knows how Kyrie is going to be next year even like he
• 36:24
  might do some weird shit off the court. Like I feel like yeah I feel like you're right well this
• 36:30
  is the Mabs like they have it like they have to get it now. Yeah I mean that's really all I got for
• 36:39
  it. I mean I might I might I might sprinkle the Mabs honestly maybe like Mabs and seven
• 36:43
  that could be fun. It could be fun. It could be some some fun sports on. I am definitely going to try
• 36:51
  and watch like all the all the Stanley Cup final games. I'm going to try to do that. I'm going to try
• 36:56
  to watch every every finals game like both sports. I hope they have them on alternating nights that
• 37:02
  would be fantastic. I think I know the NBA starts like one of them starts tomorrow.
• 37:12
  Tomorrow like Thursday. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's the NBA.
• 37:19
  I think the other one starts the next night. If I'm NBA starts Thursday June 6th NHL starts
• 37:27
  on Saturday. Okay. The NBA takes so many days off in between. Yeah. Okay. So that's fine.
• 37:35
  Sean do you have anything to add to the NBA? I mean I think it's the Celtics
• 37:46
  all the way. I think it might be the Mab shot but ultimately I think they're going to come up short.
• 37:55
  That's fair. I can't root for a Boston team. I mean I just can't. They they've had it too good.
• 38:03
  Who can like realistically who can root for a Boston team but you know it's it's the way the
• 38:09
  world works. It's just the way it just the way it works. God likes them extra. They I mean
• 38:18
  they are a they are a they are a whole heartedly Catholic town. You've got to respect it like.
• 38:24
  It's true. Maybe prayer does work. I don't know but like they must be praying for something because
• 38:36
  they're getting an awful lot. They're also extremely racist. Maybe that is something.
• 38:44
  There's a lot of parallels here with Boston in the south.
• 38:48
  Interesting. Well Catholics are like real like they go to like mass they put in the work.
• 38:58
  Oh yeah. Some southern Christians they they don't go to church as much and you know there's
• 39:04
  a right with that. No. It's nothing at all. Yeah. Okay let's move on.
• 39:12
  Before we say something really dumb. Speaking of God his favorite sport football.
• 39:20
  That's right. So before we get into the wind totals let's go through the the the stretch
• 39:26
  in December. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Let's do real real quick. Yes. One of you do that.
• 39:34
  Do you have a show. I do. For those of you who don't know the college football playoffs are
• 39:44
  expanding to 12 teams this year and from December 19th through January 20th we have
• 39:53
  just about 30 full days of football in a row. It's insane and beautiful and it like this.
• 40:09
  I'm looking at this schedule right now just going week by week and it's just so beautiful.
• 40:15
  Like start out December 19th Thursday night football rounds at Bengals.
• 40:25
  The next night the first college football game round one. Then we've got the Saturday game
• 40:34
  with Texans and Chiefs and Ravens and Steelers and Ravens and the 22nd get 12 NFL games.
• 40:42
  The next day Saints at Packers Christmas Day. We've got Chiefs at Steelers and Ravens and
• 40:51
  Texans a Black Friday we got Seahawks. I'm not Black Friday. I'm sorry. That's after Thanksgiving.
• 40:59
  The 26th we got Seahawks at Bears.
• 41:01
  The 29th we have another slate of 12 NFL games. The 30th we've got Lions at 49ers. New
• 41:13
  Year's Eve we have the college football playoffs quarters and then we take a little break. We
• 41:21
  take a little break. We took about a four day break but we come back. We got yeah from New Year's
• 41:28
  Eve to January 5th. There's a little break there but January 5th comes back strong with 16 NFL games.
• 41:40
  Wow. All right. I guess I can I guess I can look at what I'm going to do. It's four days though.
• 41:45
  Yeah. I don't see the time with your family and just bring in the new year. I don't know. Come out
• 41:52
  the house and then the night through the 10th we also have the college football playoffs semifinals
• 42:02
  then the next day through the end of the weekend. That's wild card weekend
• 42:12
  and then fast forward another couple of days. We got the divisional round
• 42:16
  and then the national championship the day after. It's beautiful. Let's go. So
• 42:27
  so there's division around Natty and then Super Bowl a week two weeks later. Yep.
• 42:36
  God. We pretty much go wild card. Take a few days off. Divisional round.
• 42:43
  The next day is the national championship. I got I do kind of enjoy the like after the
• 42:59
  college football season and like where there's just NFL. I kind of really enjoy that because
• 43:05
  it's like OK I can breathe. You know it's not like I don't know but but also like at that point
• 43:15
  it's kind of just like you know one game a week or two games a week. So it's not a lot. You don't
• 43:20
  get your fits. Yeah. But when it's like you know the thick of the season and it's like week seven
• 43:29
  of the NFL and there's like a whole big ass slate of college football games the day before it's like
• 43:37
  this is hard. It is hard but it's the best. The semifinals of the college football playoffs
• 43:45
  is only four teams. That's only two games. Yeah. It'll thin out like yeah it'll thin out.
• 43:52
  It'll still thin out but I give what you're saying. Yeah. I wish there were more games.
• 44:02
  I guarantee you if if this if this slate was on this month you would not be complaining.
• 44:11
  Oh no. Oh no. You know what I mean. I'm not. I will never complain about this. No. This sounds
• 44:16
  honestly perfect. Those four days that we have to go without football day three I'm going to be
• 44:22
  pissed because like the fuck there should be football. I'm so excited. That's God. I saw that
• 44:40
  tweet today and I was like this is this is going to be the best.
• 44:45
  Yeah. So yeah those four days are going to be rough but I'll yeah those you need those four days
• 44:53
  to be like oh yeah I'll go to the whatever with you honey like I'll go to the grocery store.
• 45:00
  I'm just saying that but yeah we can go out to eat tonight. Yeah totally and then I've decided to
• 45:07
  skip football. That's going to be awesome. Like you know what but no football like I'm not paying
• 45:16
  attention to football. It's just you and me. I decided to skip Tuesday night football.
• 45:22
  And then there's going to be plenty of Tuesday night football on during the season. She'll be like
• 45:27
  yeah this is fantastic. This is the best. I'm it can't get here soon enough honestly.
• 45:34
  Right of course. Okay so that
• 45:39
  transitions us into the next topic. I have two win totals here that I can talk about.
• 45:48
  Chris how many do you have. I have three. Sean I have three as well. Okay should I go first since
• 45:56
  I have two. I was going to say do we want to go like one for each and go around the room or just
• 46:02
  say what we got like round a lot of ours back to back. I think we just
• 46:10
  I think we just go. I think we just go. Okay. Okay. I guess I'll go first. Go for it. So
• 46:20
  my my first win total is chargers under eight and a half plus 125. All right I'm going through the
• 46:31
  going through the schedule here. I'm counting six wins and two toss ups and the two toss ups are
• 46:40
  the Denver games because I do not know what Denver game what Denver team we're going to get
• 46:49
  but chances are that the chargers will be better than them and if they win those two toss ups
• 46:56
  that's eight. I only need less than eight and a half. To me this is free money it's plus 125
• 47:05
  chargers today actually released Corey Linsley they're all pro center who missed 14 games last year
• 47:13
  and last year without him they went five and 12 and so they're going to be without him again.
• 47:18
  And also not to mention they they signed Christian Fulton that guy stinks and they signed Gus Edwards
• 47:29
  and J.K. Dobbins and as we both know as we all know from from the history of watching football
• 47:36
  over the past three or four years both of them are going to get injured and so that's what I got.
• 47:44
  I have their the chargers wins. I have Carolina Arizona Atlanta Tampa Bay because I felt like
• 47:55
  being nice New Orleans and Las Vegas there. I have them splitting with Las Vegas.
• 48:03
  So yeah man that's what I got. That's that's that first one. What do you think about that?
• 48:10
  I like it. I like it a lot. The chargers were very mid last year and I don't I mean I feel
• 48:20
  like their offense has just gotten at least on paper significantly worse. Oh yeah definitely.
• 48:27
  Like who's their wide receiver one Quinton Johnson. That guy sucks.
• 48:32
  Either him or the guy they drafted in the second round.
• 48:35
  Oh yeah. Who was it? His name escapes me. I should have written down. So it's either
• 48:40
  Quinton Johnson or Ricky or I guess Joshua Palmer who gavals but he's no wide receiver one.
• 48:47
  I'll be honest. So yeah I like that especially a plus money. I like that.
• 48:52
  Under eight and a half. Okay. My other play is the Las Vegas Raiders over six and a half wins.
• 49:02
  Okay. This is this is kind of a vibes play but also kind of not a vibes play. Okay. I have them
• 49:11
  winning a game against the chargers Carolina Miami the Falcons the Jaguars and then I have
• 49:25
  three toss ups both Denver games and one of the New Orleans game because I can never get a read on
• 49:31
  the Saints. I can never get a read on their team. Honestly I try to stay away from the Saints
• 49:37
  pretty much every game that they're in unless it's prime time. They're just it just feels like
• 49:43
  they're weird man. Yeah. I've never been able to get like a good read on them. They won nine games
• 49:50
  last year. Mm hmm. Who would have thought? You're gonna. Yeah that's. I can't get a read on them.
• 49:58
  So yeah I have six wins and three toss ups. My X factors if you will. They have Antonio Pierce.
• 50:10
  They hired that dude. That guy's gonna make him run through a brick wall. They signed Gardner
• 50:16
  Menchu which I know we all hate him but I mean if we're being honest here he plays like four games
• 50:22
  a year that are like really fucking good. And then all the other games are kind of toss ups.
• 50:30
  Have a question. Yeah. Is Menchu the starter? Like was he brought in to be the starter? I was gonna
• 50:36
  ask that too. Like is it O'Connell again? Because O'Connell wasn't good but he was fine. Won some big
• 50:46
  games with not really because of him but won some big games with him. Let me look at the depth chart
• 50:53
  real quick. They're they're battling. I would be very surprised if they're starting. Okay. I would
• 50:58
  be surprised if Menchu wasn't the starter because I feel like right now O'Connell is. But O'Connell.
• 51:07
  Oh well right now. That could change. That could change right now. Just saying.
• 51:12
  Menchu will O'Connell will start a decent amount of games if Menchu is like the starter
• 51:20
  and vice versa. If O'Connell is the starter Menchu will start decent games.
• 51:27
  Other things. They drafted Brock Bowers. That guy's awesome. They signed Alexander Mattson.
• 51:34
  He's pretty okay. Michael Gallup and they signed Christian Wilkins the detackle from Miami
• 51:44
  because Miami I think Miami is gonna stink but also like all the teams in that division are gonna
• 51:51
  be ass except for maybe the Jets if Aaron Rodgers decides to I don't know not be ancient.
• 51:58
  But Miami got a brand new defense like they did. They got rid of all of the other guys on defense.
• 52:08
  They have a brand new defense. And so yeah that's my pick. Raiders over six and a half minus 120.
• 52:19
  I feel like it's pretty good. I feel like Antonio Pierce is like that's six wins right there.
• 52:25
  The Raiders down the stretch with Pierce. They were my team last year. Yeah. They were like just
• 52:33
  blind like not just blindly bad at most because they were they were coming like regardless.
• 52:40
  I mean they'd be the chiefs like handedly. I think that was on Christmas day being like two
• 52:46
  touchdowns I think. Oh yes. That was. So yeah Pierce is he's the dude. Yeah. So
• 52:53
  six and a half minus 120. It's pretty good man. All right Chris what do you got. Lay it on me.
• 53:00
  All right. Well we'll start out team. We also can't get a read on. I got a read on this here.
• 53:08
  Saints over seven and a half wins minus 120 is on draft Kings. I don't know what it's like on
• 53:15
  other books on draft Kings is minus 120. They have the easiest schedule in the league.
• 53:20
  I don't know how they factor that but they have the easiest schedule in the league.
• 53:25
  Part of that is they play in the worst division in football. It's pretty much them. The Falcons
• 53:32
  are everyone thinks the Falcons are going to be amazing this year. I'm not sold.
• 53:39
  Cousins. I mean we don't know how he's going to be. Their defense was not good last year
• 53:45
  and Raheem Morris. He's been a head coach before and he's been terrible. So I don't believe in
• 53:52
  the Falcons as much as everyone else. I think that would be good. I think they will probably win
• 53:56
  that division but that's not saying much. So let's say let's say they go four and two
• 54:03
  in the division play. I felt like that's fair to say. They're non-divisions. They have Denver.
• 54:10
  They go to the Chargers. The Chargers we don't know about them. They're weird.
• 54:18
  Cleveland late. I think they play Cleveland in November. So if DeSean Watson will probably
• 54:22
  not be playing at that point. They have the Rams at home. The Rams on the road are not good.
• 54:30
  The Giants, the commanders and the Raiders. No offense will. The Raiders are not going to be
• 54:38
  very good. They're going to win seven games but this isn't one. But this isn't one of them.
• 54:43
  I have this as a toss up. Yes. Oh you do. Perfect. I have it as a toss up.
• 54:48
  Let's see. So again. Because I can't get a read on the Saints. This is saying they go four and two
• 54:53
  in division play. They have to get four wins in between everything I said. I say Giants,
• 55:00
  commanders, Broncos. Those three I'll say are pretty much wins. And I have to get a win between
• 55:10
  Chargers, Browns, Rams and Raiders. I say that's eight wins right there.
• 55:20
  They got some pretty good offseason in terms of acquiring talent. They got Chase Young.
• 55:26
  I totally forgot about that. So that's how we get it. And then they drafted this
• 55:34
  tackle out of Oregon State. The Fuonga, I believe that's how you pronounce his last name.
• 55:40
  They sucked running the football last year without like Alvin Camara is
• 55:45
  extremely good at getting the ball out of the backfield. Not great. They weren't great at
• 55:49
  running the ball last year so I think that'll help. I think the Saints, I mean,
• 55:53
  they can fuck around and win that division honestly. I don't know. I don't have a price on that in
• 56:00
  front of me but I mean seven and a half wins. I feel like eight wins that could get you to win
• 56:07
  the NFC South honestly. So yeah, Saints over seven and a half. They weren't going to go with one.
• 56:13
  This one made me happy. Cowboys under 10 and a half. They have won 12 games last two, three years,
• 56:24
  at least two years. They're not doing that this year. They have gotten worse and have done nothing
• 56:30
  about it. Their big offensive get this year was Ezekiel Elliott.
• 56:38
  They haven't done anything in the offseason. They signed some okay guys on defense, which was their
• 56:47
  big problem last year. They got Eric Hendricks, I think from the Chargers. He's fine but he's like
• 56:55
  32, 33. They signed Jordan Lewis who's a corner. He's coming off a foot injury where he missed
• 57:01
  like six games last year. Who knows how he's going to be but they lost Dan Quinn too. So
• 57:10
  I mean that's their defense right there. Their division games, I mean let's face it,
• 57:16
  they're probably finding as commanders and giants. Eagles, I don't know. The Eagles are hard to get a
• 57:22
  read on but they have that first place schedule. So they're non-division games. They have Cleveland.
• 57:29
  I think they opened this season with Cleveland so that could be interesting.
• 57:34
  And they have New Orleans. We'll see Baltimore, at Pittsburgh, Detroit, San Francisco, at Atlanta,
• 57:42
  Houston, Cincinnati, and then Carolina and Tampa. But like at Pittsburgh, San Francisco,
• 57:49
  Houston, Cincinnati, that's pretty tough. So yeah, Cowboys under 10 and a half on us. I just,
• 58:00
  I don't think they're going to be very good. I feel like they lost a lot and did nothing to really
• 58:05
  improve their team. And then last one, will you like this? Dolphins under 9 and a half plus 1-15.
• 58:13
  If Aaron Rodgers is healthy, they are the third best team in this division. I have no faith in this
• 58:19
  team whatsoever. They like opposing defenses, they have film on them now. They know how to stop them.
• 58:25
  I mean, who even saw towards the end of the season last year, they could not be any team worth a
• 58:31
  shit. So, and also, is Tua going to stay healthy a full year, two years in a row?
• 58:37
  No, tough to say. No, he's not. I'm not rooting for injury, never will, but that's not going to happen.
• 58:48
  They added Jordan Poyer and Shaquille Barrett. Fine. Pass their prime, if we're being honest.
• 58:57
  They're good, but they're not what they used to be. I think they're both in their 30s.
• 59:01
  Their schedule is not the, I mean, let's see, their division, what do you think they'll go to
• 59:08
  division play, three and three? You think that's fair? I mean, everyone kind of sucks in that
• 59:13
  division, so I think that's fair. I mean, even like they struggled with the Patriots last season.
• 59:19
  Yeah. And the division games are weird. Yeah. So I think, let's say they go three and three,
• 59:25
  maybe four and two. Their non-division is Jacksonville at Seattle, Titans at Indy, Arizona,
• 59:32
  at the Rams, Vegas at Green Bay, at Houston, San Francisco, at Cleveland. Not like murderers row,
• 59:41
  like the Cowboys, but that's not easy. Like even Jacksonville, that's not a gimmie.
• 59:48
  Like us come to town. I think that's Monday Night Football. And we saw last year,
• 59:52
  we can fuck around and win. And like, that's not like the Dolphins have some enormous home field
• 59:58
  advantage. Like they don't. They never, like that place sucks. So I just, I struggle to find 10 wins
• 1:00:10
  in this schedule. And with two, I don't think two is going to stay healthy. And yeah, so I'm taking
• 1:00:18
  under nine and a half at plus money. Give me that all day. So yeah, that's my third shit down.
• 1:00:24
  Yes. Oh yeah. When you said the dolphins will be asked, I was like, let's go.
• 1:00:31
  So yeah, Saints over seven and a half Cowboys under 10 and a half. Dolphins under nine and a half.
• 1:00:37
  John, I was on my turn. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:49
  Um, well, I want to, whoa. Sorry. Did y'all hear that? Some music started like playing through my
• 1:01:01
  headphones. No, I didn't hear that. Okay. Okay. Um, first off,
• 1:01:12
  I think you'll like this, Chris. And I think you'll like this too, Will. But, um,
• 1:01:18
  I think the Falcons are looking at potentially like one of their best seasons in a decade. Right.
• 1:01:29
  Um, yeah, the Kirk cousins has like, you know, brought some stability to the quarterback position.
• 1:01:37
  Um, I think they've got a, they've got a pretty good offense. Um, I think they honestly have
• 1:01:44
  an underrated defense and they have a pretty darn easy schedule. But expecting them to win
• 1:01:55
  three more games than they did last year, I don't really think so. And after wasting their
• 1:02:03
  first round pick on Michael Pinnick's junior, that didn't really fix anything. They didn't fix
• 1:02:11
  any other weak spots. Um, I think they'll definitely be better than last year, but
• 1:02:15
  finishing around 500 seems likely, but definitely not. They're definitely not winning 10 games.
• 1:02:29
  Falcons under nine and a half plus one 15.
• 1:02:34
  Like it. Like it. All right. They're schedule is easy, but like, let's be real, like
• 1:02:42
  first three games of the season, Steelers, Eagles, Chiefs, like that's just a recipe for disaster.
• 1:02:49
  Just coming. Is it Pittsburgh? No, it's, it's in, it's in Atlanta. Okay. That makes it winable then.
• 1:02:58
  It does, but um, I mean, if they go 013, that wouldn't shock me at all. Yeah. Um, I wanted to
• 1:03:07
  mention this because I wanted to, because when I was texting all about this, the reason like I
• 1:03:13
  brought this up is I saw the Steelers win total yesterday was at seven and a half. And that means
• 1:03:21
  that Mike Tomlin, they will not have a winning season. But yeah, but I checked today. I think
• 1:03:31
  I think everybody got wise and saw that because they upped it to eight and a half at like plus one
• 1:03:40
  60 something, which is ridiculous. But yeah, I saw it on. Oh yeah. Undraft, undrafting.
• 1:03:51
  Over a half plus 140. Yeah. So I was, that was going to be like my main focal point
• 1:03:57
  for this, which is like why I wanted to talk about it. But now I can't really give it out because I
• 1:04:04
  didn't take it. They still have to win nine games to finish above 500 though. I guess you, you can't
• 1:04:12
  go 500 anymore. So you would have to. That's true. True. So I liked seven and a half a lot more though.
• 1:04:21
  Oh yeah, that would be easy. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I might, I might sprinkle that. We'll see.
• 1:04:29
  So the next, the next team I want to talk about is the 49ers. They have an incredibly deep offense
• 1:04:38
  and just they, they're one of the few teams that haven't, that hasn't lost any star players. They
• 1:04:44
  just re-signed McCaffrey to a two year deal. Despite all, you know, all these trade rumors,
• 1:04:51
  it's like I ook, like Devo Samuel, like he might be moving, there might be moving on.
• 1:04:59
  Hitting 11 and a half on a game total for this team is almost free money. This is like one of
• 1:05:09
  the best teams in the league. Christian McCaffrey is the best running back in the league and the 49ers
• 1:05:15
  are stacked on both sides of the ball stacked. I'm going over 11 and a half here plus 105 on
• 1:05:25
  draft kings. They're the only team who's favored in every single game this season. So yeah, I mean,
• 1:05:33
  you're giving me, you're basically giving me six free games. That's what I'm hearing. Like
• 1:05:43
  barring in, knock on wood, barring injury. Yes. Bar, barring energy. I like that. I like, yeah.
• 1:05:52
  I mean, plus, plus money on the league's best team.
• 1:05:56
  You got to take it. You take it. That's pretty good. You got to take it. And then finally,
• 1:06:06
  we come to the absolute dumpster fire that is the Carolina Panthers.
• 1:06:12
  They had a rough season last year. They did finishing dead last and they traded their
• 1:06:21
  first overall pick away. Dan, unlike really any other teams that tank, I guess, there's no hope.
• 1:06:34
  There's no hope for the Carolina Panthers. Not right now. Definitely not. It's not even on the
• 1:06:40
  horizon. It's not even in the distance. There's just no hope. Do they have, they have a first
• 1:06:47
  run pick like next year, correct? Like this upcoming draft? Yeah, I think so. I think so.
• 1:06:54
  Honestly, if they want to open, they have to take it again. Yeah. But
• 1:07:01
  you can't be putting Bryce through all this, even though he's terrible. Like you can't be doing that
• 1:07:06
  to him. But yeah, they have no, they have no offensive line. The offensive line they have
• 1:07:12
  is a absolute mess. Bryce Young is just, he's, man, he's just having a tough time.
• 1:07:22
  He's just, yeah, give me the thoughts and prayers. They had the second lowest win total
• 1:07:28
  in the league this season. And it should probably honestly be lower than five and a half. But I'm
• 1:07:35
  going to take the Panthers under five and a half at minus 105. I mean, I like that honestly.
• 1:07:44
  Sprites is only minus 105. Who has the lowest? I don't, if they have the second lowest.
• 1:07:53
  I can't remember. Bronco Broncos also have five and a half.
• 1:07:56
  I can't remember. I'm looking at it right now. The Patriots? Patriots are four and a half.
• 1:08:08
  And over four and a half is minus 160. Yeah. The Patriots are going to just, hey, yeah,
• 1:08:16
  they're going to stink, dude. Yeah. That's going to be terrible. Yeah, I hate to say it. It's a shame.
• 1:08:23
  Yeah, I hate to say it. It's a shame. Okay. Well, that's, I think that's it. I think that's all we
• 1:08:31
  got for this week. Would you say so? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I just wanted to say this was my,
• 1:08:41
  the first time I was like, I really miss football. Yeah. Like I was, I was bored the other night.
• 1:08:49
  And I was like, flipping through YouTube videos and I saw biggest upset wins of the 2023-24
• 1:08:58
  college football season. And it was like 30 minutes and I watched that and I was like,
• 1:09:02
  God, I miss football. I have to say when I was doing research for this,
• 1:09:10
  it was kind of like, it took my brain a second to sort of switch, switch back into football mode.
• 1:09:16
  It might be time soon to restart the league. It felt, yeah. That might be like another month.
• 1:09:23
  That might be like another month. Yeah, you got to like finish it right before football season starts.
• 1:09:29
  Yeah. But yeah, no, we had doing research for this. It felt right. It felt, it felt good. I hate looking
• 1:09:38
  every year or every day now at like ERA and expected ERA and like all this other random
• 1:09:45
  bullshit. I hate it so much. And you know, that's why, that's why we're giving you the audience
• 1:09:54
  these 13 weeks of picks. We have 13 weeks until week one. We can make it. So let's just take it
• 1:10:02
  one week at a time. We just give a pick a week. I like it. But that's, I mean, what else? Pick a week.
• 1:10:07
  I don't know. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, baby. Kaboom. I can't wait.
• 1:10:19
  13 weeks. Three for the money is a couple of the people. It's a cup of coffee. Come on. I mean,
• 1:10:25
  if you take out like, I mean, you're asleep and then you're asleep. Meals. Yep. And then Sunday's
• 1:10:32
  just fly by. I mean, it's like two weeks, really. Yeah, it's it's nothing. It's a cup of coffee.
• 1:10:39
  It's like a cup of coffee. It'll go by like that. Exactly.
• 1:10:46
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