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I Didn't Survive Cancer to Be Miserable | Summer Gomez (Part 2) · 8 Years To Live

• 8YearsToLive Episode18 Audio: Every person has a story. Some shape us, some break us, and some help us heal. Join Sisters Kim and Bibi as they explore mental health, trauma, relationships, and personal growth through honest conversations, lived experiences, and professional insights. Because understanding your story can change the way you live it. This is Eight Years to Live. I have gone into coma. How would you say? Maria Shriver. Yes. Yes. Why do we have so many nicknames for each other? That's a good question. Because medical trauma is one of the most underrecognized forms of trauma. Who are you gonna talk to when I die? He's already telling you you've got eight years to look. So during since I chose to do reconstruction, is what they do when they first do the massectomy. so you have two surgeries basically in one day. You have the breast surgeon that goes in and takes out all of the breast tissue all the way up into your armpit. So all of your natural breast tissue, all throughout your whole breast and chest and in your armpit, are removed. They did take five lymph nodes out of this side just to check, just to double check and make sure that nothing was in my lymph nodes, which it wasn't. and then once that doctor gets done clearing all that out, then the plastic surgeon is right then and there, same day, same surgery room, and then puts in first what they call expanders. And it's basically an empty bag that they put inside, because now you only have skin. they put an empty bag inside of your breast skin. And while that's healing over the next three to six months, they slowly feel, fill up the expander with liquid until you get to your either a desired size or as large as you can go within the skin that you have. And then after you get to that, then you have a a third s or a second breast surgery, which then takes the expander out and puts an actual implant in. And that's what I chose to do. Was that so painful? Because the expander, that sounds painful. No well no, because So when they remove all of your breast tissue, it removes all of your nerves. I have no sensation and no feeling in my breasts. so no. And then also when they do the surgery, they put like pain blockers or nerve blockers as well in your chest. So while you're healing, if you have any pain, you shouldn't feel it because they have nerve, nerve blockers. But yeah, I don't have any all the way up into my, I want to say probably right here is where I can start to feel. But all this I don't have any feeling in my armpits or the breasts, it 'cause it removes the so have no sensation or feeling because the nerve endings are gone. Wow. Interesting. Yeah. That's wild. It was cool So I which I'm sure we'll talk about a little bit more in detail. But I when I first found out that they were taking my breasts from me and and and is also taking my nipples, because not always do they take the nipples. Sometimes they what they call nipple sparing and they keep the nipple so that way you have more natural looking breasts. Well with the way my stuff was and it wasn't it was more so because of aesthetic wise is why they decided to take the nipple because when you have people think when you have a massectomy and a reconstruction that ooh you're getting new boobs. Mm-hmm. That that's it's not a boob job. It's it's not like I I actually had people make comments to me like that like you're gonna get new boobs out this one I loved my natural boobs they were just perfect in every way to be honest. You know what I'm saying? I I didn't I didn't want new boobs. I didn't need new boobs. So when people make comments like that to me, it really frustrated me because then after going through that surgery and seeing what kind of monster my body looked like afterwards, I was like, this isn't this isn't new boobs. This is reconstructing your body to feel normal, to be honest. but th there wasn't a lot of pain. I I chose once I knew that's sorry, sidetrack. Once I knew that they were taking my breasts, I Eric was like, you can get nipples tattooed on. What purpose would it serve? They I don't have any no offense, I don't have any feeling in the breast or nipples, so there goes the fun. I chose that I wanted to have a bathing suit tattooed on, and that's what I did. My entire chest and breasts are tattooed. And that's what I chose to do was get it all tattooed. Yeah. If you feel comfortable talking about because going through cancer is really difficult. But then from what I'm hearing, the mental, there's a mental part, you get done and it's like, now you're telling me these are new boobs and all these positive things, but you get done and you decide, it's like I have this monster of a body. what was that like? That was hard. I've never had any major surgeries. I've never broken a bone. Before my life, I've never really even been in the hospital. so that was all a whole new experience in itself for me, was good doing all that. after I had the surgery, you should know this, Kim. I'm not good at asking for help. I'm not good at allowing people to come to my house to take care of me. And I say that because you tried to, and I'm like trying to offer you food and drinks, and you're like, sit down, let me do it for you. I'm like, I can't do that. So I just I'm not I I'm a host. I host things. You don't host me in my own home. You know what I'm saying? but I had to rely on other people to help me. My my best friend Alyssa had taken a week off of work after my surgery to come and stay with me at my house because I couldn't put my arms up over my head. I couldn't shower by myself. I had to make sure I wore like things that buttoned up because I couldn't obviously take things off over my head. And just the way that your my breast looked. 'Cause it was just skin and and then like you can see the bag under your skin, like the the rippling of the bag under your skin. And then I have these huge, you know, sp like incisions that are healing that go straight across and then these tubes coming out of you because you have the drains coming out. And I I try to make jokes. I a couple pictures that where I'm like joking and like s being silly with my drains filled with fluid, but it was gross looking. It was scary looking. Even Even to this day, seven years later, I do not touch my breasts. Like I don't like I touch them obviously, but I don't touch them. I don't think about them a lot. 'cause I still feel like to this day that they're not mine. They don't really belong to me. They're just there. You know what I'm saying? And that's I don't know if that's weird to say or weird sounding, but I've I've never even like I'm supposed to all these years I'm supposed to be massaging them and To make because they are still hard feeling. And I've over the years I'm supposed to massage them to make them feel more natural. I I don't want to touch them. I don't like the way that they feel. And even still to this day, you can still see the rippling from the implants. And that freaks me out sometimes, seeing that. So that's why I try not to look at them or touch them. I don't, it's I like to show them off still because they're tattooed and people like to see the tattoos, but I don't, it's it's it's a weird. It's a very weird thing for me. I remember during my process, I think before I got them tattooed, I had went with my friend Diana to Arkansas and I got a Reiki treatment done. And the woman's the whole thing was for her to help me release my feelings towards my breasts and accept them as being mine. And I don't know what kind of energy work she did, but it definitely worked because after that I started to at least come around to, okay, they're not so bad. They're gonna be okay, I can get through this. And then once they're tattooed, it was just better for me because now they're covered up completely and it's like just an art piece instead of just this skin with no nipple and this scar across them. And they're also they're not and I know boobs naturally are not perfect or shaped right, but these are not round, they're not shaped like a boob, they're deformed looking in my opinion. You know what I'm saying? So that was a little hard mentally to Mm-hmm. To learn to love your body again, especially after you had just gotten doing so much, mind, body, and soul to lose weight, get the way you wanted to be mind, mind, body, and soul, because it wasn't just I lost weight, I had do a lot of work mentally as well. And now I had to I feel like I had to redo all of that work 'cause now I gained all the weight back. I have these weird objects attached to me now. And then it was a whole different mental game to learn how to to love my body again, the new body that I had. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That would be so hard. So so hard. And you're saying, you had already worked so hard, 'cause I remember that with the working out when you were design builders and meal prepping. I think the whole culture of design builders was, we work out hard, we eat right, we weigh our food, all these things. Yep. And like you said, you did it naturally. That was a lot of time in the gym, a lot of time meal prepping. And then all of a sudden this huge thing happens and it's like not just did the rug get ripped out from underneath you, but then it got thrown on top of you and it's like, try to come out and have a good time doing that. Just rolling around inside that rug. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. my gosh. And then you still came out. A lot of people would have been like, well I gained all the way back. It is what it is. I'm not even gonna try it because it was already so hard in the first place. But you're like, that's not me, that's not who I am, and you still chose to do it and you're still you have a six pack currently. I kind of do. In case It's got a little fluff that covers it still, but I like got some crazy definition in my body that I've never had never in my life have I had some of the definition in my body that I'm seeing now. And don't get me wrong, after chemo And all that stuff. It took me years to finally get back to a place where I wanted to start losing weight again. Cause we'll get into all this later too. But like after all that was said and done, COVID was around, so then my gym wasn't open, so I couldn't get back in the gym. I am not, I am not an at-home worker outer. Once I get home, pajamis and a joint, and I'm done. I don't need my brain shuts off. I want to relax. So I go to the gym right after work. If I don't go right after work, then it's doesn't compute for me properly in my brain. so it took me a few years to get to that point because during kind of all this, I, you know, met somebody and then I moved out of state, took on two stepkids, and my whole life completely changed as well. So there was a lot of other stuff that went on before I finally got my head right to get healthy again, mind, body, and soul. Like I was still healthy, I want to say soul and mind. But I was just miserable and unhappy in my body and the the weight that I had put on and the a lot of the weight was also from the steroids. They put you on so many steroids. And then, during that I tried really hard to stick to my my meal prepping. I was very used to eating every three hours. but it got my doctor was like, it's gonna get to a point where you're not gonna be able to eat some of the stuff that you you're gonna eat what your body Once and all she cared about is that I would get protein in me. And so there were like I think there was time where like three weeks straight where all I ate was white rice and mayonnaise. I love mayonnaise in my rice. So yummy. and like the fake ma the Idaho fake mashed potatoes, my gosh. I would eat those and I would just eat tubs of sour cream. I love sour cream, but I was also just eating stuff that I knew had protein in it because after a while my chicken just tasted there's this taste that you get. this chemical chemo taste. And only if you've had that taste in your mouth do you know what I'm t like I literally literally I just was just talking to somebody about this the other day about how just recently this past year I have finally noticed that I do not have a weird taste in my mouth, even almost seven years later. I had that weird taste in my mouth for years. it salsa. I love hot hive salsa you got. I can't do hot salsa anymore. Everything is too salty for me. I'm super salt sensitive. even when like we'll put and we use sea salt in the house, but even when you put salt like in the water for your pasta, I can taste that salt, hands down. So like things with my taste buds have changed as well, which is kind of weird. That is weird. That is crazy. I guess maybe that can't be some of the PTSD, but physically I guess. Yes. Well, and I think society too, like when we're looking at our bodies, it's you know, especially with all the filters and if we're on social media and we're looking at these women and what the body should look like and these images that just keep, you know, coming into our brains. If we're not careful, now we start looking at our own whether we've had surgeries, cancer, breast cancer, all those things, we can still look at ourselves and not be happy. And so then you add that extra layer of, I worked so hard and now here I am and I've got these things that don't belong to me. And I just don't feel right. It was definitely a a mental a mental game. I wanna say through through the chemos. So like when I talk about how like I didn't have maybe the same experience as other people is I wasn't sick. Like other people. I did not take any of the nausea or throw up medication they ever gave me. I wanted to stay off of as much medication as possible. When I was first diagnosed, the first two things that my friends did for me is one of my friends came over and got rid of all my water and got me a water machine and switched me to alkaline water. because alkaline water is known to it it it it it makes your bot your insides alkaline so cancer can't survive and grow in a body that has perfect pH in it. and then I also had another friend that used to make RSO, which is the Rick Simpson oil, which is known to kill cancer cells. More so skin cancer, because that's what he had made it for. but it's also given to people that have severe cancer for sleeping, appetite, and it also can be used as a pain reliever versus being on fentanyl or morphine or these other strong drugs. So my friends put me on those two things immediately are some of the two things that I did right away. I also chose d I tried for a little while to go like plant based eating. I like my food. So that was a little weird because some of that's a little like so I try to do things like like that to to to change some of that stuff. But those are the first two things that people did for me was the RSO and the alkaline water. I really forgot the point that I was starting on this. Hmm. What was I talking about before? You're asking this society. I know we're all on the same brain wave when it's going all over place. I don't really remember what my point was that I was going with that at the moment, so I apologize. maybe the mental game of it. So I wasn't as sick as other people. That's what I talking about. So I would get my chemo treatments. I was not I didn't get sick. I wasn't throwing up like You s like I would go into when you go to chemo, you walk into this room and there's just people sitting in chairs with tubes hooked up. And not all of them getting chemo because just because you're going to the cancer facility doesn't mean they're getting chemo. They're could be getting iron infusion treatments, different types of blood treatments as well. So it's not just chemo. But you can definitely tell the people that are getting chemo. And you can Definitely tell some of those people may not survive this. wow. I for my chemo treatments, my friend Diana went to almost every single one of them with me. I had Alyssa that went to one, and my friend, I think Danielle also went to one, and then the ones that somebody couldn't go with me, I would go by myself. but there were times when I would walk in and like people are in their chairs puking. While getting their treatments in their chairs. And it would make me so sad because I wasn't sick like that. even when I talk about how I maybe had to leave work early the next day because I didn't feel good. I didn't go home and throw up. It was just I just didn't feel my stomach was in knots. The only time I ever felt nauseous is every three hours. My body was so used to eating every three hours. So when it didn't get fed every three hours, my body's like, okay, it's time for you to get something in you. And that's when I would eat something and I would feel better, to be honest. but I wasn't sick. And when I would go in there, they they always the nurses ask you these lists of questions. How are you feeling? Any side symptoms silence? I'm like, nope, nope, nope. Let's she hulk up. I called it my she hulk juice. and I'd be let's she hulk up. And then after a couple of times, I started asking the nurses, like, can you ask me these questions quieter? Because I felt bad being so you know, when other people are so not. And one of the nurses told me that. when I leave that the imp the the the impression that I give people and the smiles that I bring to the people that are in the room and the way that the people talk about me after I left and how I brought smiles to their faces while they were going through a hard time, made you feel a certain type of way. why did I survive? For what reason? I have no kids, I have no husband, I I have nothing. My family's all dead. You know what I'm saying? Like I I have nothing. So why did I survive this when the person next to me is probably not gonna survive? So it was kind of nice to hear the doctor the nurses say that, like, no, when you come in, you you bring smiles to people's faces and you do inspire them. And that that makes me happy because like more so nowadays, since all this, like people tell me all the time how I inspire them, and I'm like Mm-hmm. Ow, I'm not like I don't think I'm inspirational, you know what I'm saying? But it's it's crazy to hear that about yourself and for people to say that when you're going through such a crazy thing for someone to say that you're inspiring them, and I'm like, I'm just trying to make it through this to be honest, you know? But it it was definitely a a mental game going there and seeing people like that and then trying to to stay positive through everything. Mm-hmm. I got chills all over my body. I thought it was gonna my stomach dropped. I'm not tissue just in case. my gosh. I have so many thoughts. I don't even know where to begin. My first thought I thought, that's exactly what I said when I just saw you pop up. I'm like, Summer. She has a ray of sunshine. Summer, like you are so inspirational. I am moved. I my goodness. Everything you're saying. Gosh, survivor's guilt, I can totally relate. Watching people knowing, thinking, they will probably not make it to the other side. Even thinking for yourself, I don't even know if I'll make it to the other side, but I don't feel physically bad. That just like for me personally, that's hitting so many different emotions that I relate with. So that alone makes me emotional. And that's what's crazy is I didn't feel physically right sick. You know? Yes. Yes. I love what you're saying because I think you people have an effect on people. And the effect that I'm hearing and that I notice is moving. Like you are moving me right now. What you post on social media moves me. I don't know you very well. I know you through Kim, I know bits about you. But hearing this, I am not surprised that you were a ray of sunshine, that you put smiles on people's faces, that you even though you didn't feel good mentally because you did feel guilty, you were still affecting people positively and still are. Mm hmm. You're amazing. Thank you for that. Because I I don't you know, I I I try to be positive. I I will say one of the things so I've always been, and we'll talk more about this in another episode, but I've always been a depressive, negative Nancy. I hate life. I don't want to be here. There's been a time in my life where I tried not to be here and I got real, real close. and But before I got cancer, I was doing really good. Mind, body, and soul. Even after my mom, well, maybe I wasn't because my mom had passed away a year before. I definitely didn't process that in the most healthiest way. I did go to therapy for six months after some, but we'll talk about that more later. But I was in a pretty good head space when I was diagnosed. But is how I took it, how I explained it to my my youngest brother is God, the universe, whatever. you choose to believe in or call that handed me my life and said, How bad do you want to live or how bad do you really hate your life and want to die? Cause now this is this is your here it is. Either you take it and you do what you need to do to to to live life or you say F it and let it go. And I could have done that. And I chose I was not gonna leave my brother without me. After we did just lose lost my mom, I was not gonna leave him with without me. I just I and yes, part of obviously my reason for doing what I did was for myself because obviously I wanted to save my own life as well. But I my brother was one of the biggest. motivators in my decision to save my life because I didn't want I I couldn't leave I could not would not leave him at all and after I went through cancer and that stuff I my outlook on life and every relationship I looked at just everything became different for me. I don't ever want to be miserable, sad, unhappy, depressed. I didn't save my life to have a miserable life. I saved my life to now live it. And that's what I I haven't that's what I've done for the past seven years and that's what I intend to do for until I'm a hundred and six years old. I'm going that far. but I I I don't ever wanna go backwards. I don't wanna be mad, sad, depressed, miserable like that again. I don't wanna dwell on negativity. I don't want to be a negative person. I don't wanna I don't want negativity in my life because I also know what it can do to you, mind, body, and soul. And I didn't save my life to be miserable anymore. And I didn't save my life to be in shitty relationships with anybody. That that doesn't include that's you know, romantical. Friend wise, anything. I don't want any of that kind of negativeness in my life anymore. And I have done pretty good for the past seven years now that I've been cancer free because it's been seven years. This June was seven years cancer free. that I've I choose to live my life to the fullest that I can to my ability and to try and bring happiness and and and positivity to to others around me. Sorry I have to blow nose. Are a true samurai. Hi. I love the name that you say that. I do love the name of the of the podcast that you named it, so thank you for that. Yes. Summer, the samurai. For sure. You're slaying life and you're helping others to slay life also. Not just like those that you touch through social media. But in your immediate circle too, which is amazing. I try. I really do try. And it shows. Summer, I we're gonna have to pause. It's getting really good, but we're gonna have to record an entire series with Summer the Samurai. I'm for it. Yes, so many things. Even now as you were speaking, I'm like, okay, I need to take mental notes because of these are I was like, You better be taking notes so that way you know where to come back to because I won't remember. Your brother. I thought that's a whole your brothers or your family, I guess. Yes. The your uncles, your yes, the whole uncle story and your mom and my goodness. Yes. All of it. Yes, so so much. I still wanted to touch briefly before we do go, and maybe it's not gonna be brief, it just came to mind you ended up losing your hair. And I think you mentioned that recently. I don't know where. Can you briefly touch on that? Yeah. So I thought obviously going through chemo, you lose your hair. the first chemo that I was on was I can't remember the official name, but it was called The Red Devil, and it was literally a Big needle full of red juice. And it's what the mo it's the most aggressive can chemo, because it's what's to kill the cells. And that's what makes you lose your hair. The doctor told me that I would lose my hair within three weeks of my first treatment. I was like, Losing your hair is gonna be easy. It's just it's hair, right? Like, no big deal. there is something about when you're washing your hair. I like when you wash your hair, you get hair naturally, it comes out. But when you grab your hair and it has this clump of hair in your hand and you're like It's a little it plays a mind game on you. and my entire scalp. when you have a hair tie that's too tight and it's like pulling the back of your hair back here, and you that like that pulling flame, that's what my entire scalp felt like. Was like it my hair was being pulled by a rubber band. the day that I was supposed to go get my head shaved, I did have an appointment with my really good friend. that d has done my hair since high school. And something happened. she had to cancel, reschedule, and she's I'm so sorry. Do you want to come in a different day? And I'm like, Unfortunately, no. I my head is in the game right now. I have to have my head shaved today. It took me a lot of like ball dropping, I guess, to get to the point of of ready to shave my head. Cause I thought that'd be the easiest part, but then when it came down to it, I don't think it was I think it's probably the hardest part of of that. I went to Supercuts right across the street from my house. I went the latest at night. I walked in. I had a beanie on. I explained to the lady what was going on. I need to shave my head. And she's like, Are you sure? I said, Yes. I said, just please be careful because it does hurt. she shaved my head. I did not look in the mirror. I did not want to look in the mirror. I put my beanie back on and I wore that beanie for a month. I didn't look at myself in the mirror. I as soon as I got out of the shower, I wouldn't look in the mirror. I put the beanie back on. I wore a beanie to work. Every day. I refused to wear wigs because I just that w they're hot when you have major hot flashes as well. and I just wore beanies. And then I remember January specifically, I came actually down to Bullhead City hotter than crap in the middle of January, wearing a freaking beanie on my head. And I was like, it is too hot to wear this. And I took my bean I had my makeup done. At that time I still had eyebrows. had my makeup done and I was like, you know what? I have to take this beanie because I literally am gonna die from heat stroke if I don't. And I took it off and I looked at myself in the mirror and I'm like, damn, I've got a nice bald head. it was all like perfectly round and like all nice and like sh sh fresh shaved almost. And I'm like, damn, this is nice. And I never covered up my head again. Only summer. I adored it. I never covered up my head again. It was the most freeing moment was that exact moment when I looked at myself in the mirror and I felt pretty without hair. Yeah. And it was really the first time I really saw myself. I know. Yeah. It was it was a really cool thing personally because I because again, you just think that it was hair, so it's no no big deal. But when have you ever not had hair in your life? Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And when it's not a choice. Yes. It got taken away from you. Yes. And that was the thing too. It wasn't that was a I I'm gonna shave my head and start all over. Nowadays I'm like, dude, I'm about to shave my head and start all over with this stuff because now I know I look good without it and I know how to grow back. You know, but yeah. my god. And I brought that up because your hair is such a part of you, like you changing it from pink to yellow to blue to all these different colors. Or Halloweeny. Summer. If you know if you know Summer, she's like what five foot tall? How tall are you? Five foot. She's five foot tall. She's so adorable. And so do you just want to roll her up and put her in your pocket? She's so adorable. And your personality. Yes. But your personality is so giant and lovable. It's I love that I know you. Well, I love that I know you as well. And I love that I know BB and that I get to do this with you guys and it's kind of it's it's I don't want to say it sounds weird to say it's fun to talk about, but it is I do like talking about it. I like sharing my experience because my experience isn't maybe like others or maybe it is like others. I mean met I've also met some really amazing women going through this process that that are that I We all got connected because one I met, she was just getting done with her surgeries, and then I got diagnosed. And then when I was giving her surgeries, another friend got diagnosed. And we were there through all of those different processes and and and journeys with each other. And it's it's it's interesting to to meet people that have gone through this stuff, especially at such young ages as well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. You bonded. I'm yes. I've loved hearing your story. I'm glad that you enjoy sharing it. Because I've enjoyed picking up everything you're saying. Everything you're putting down, I'm picking up. Your life is incredible. I cannot wait. If this is like a tidbit I can't wait for what's too. This is just a tidbit of a e honestly even the breast cancer stuff still. I feel like there's like so much more to even I can't believe we've been on this thing for an hour and a half already, to be honest. But there's I feel like there's still so much more when it comes to to talking about even some more of the little details or like you know the the level of exhaustion that comes in or even the the the biopsies that I had done and that experience and how painful that was and things like that too. There's still like little details in between everything we talked about that can still be talked about or brought to people's attention as well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Thank you so much for educating us. Yes. I so appreciate it. This is awesome. You're telling us things that I've never heard maybe other people have. Maybe people can relate. Maybe Someone will listen to this and know to check themselves. This is such an important thing to talk about. And what timing? Mm-hmm. Yeah, for sure. If you were going to have our listeners take one thing away, what would you want that one thing to be? One thing is early detection saves lives. Living proof, right here. You feel something abnormal, get into your doctor. Don't be scared because It's scarier on the other side. if you feel something abnormal, get into your doctor, get the test done, go through the process. I don't care what your age is. I don't care if you're twenty five, because yes, girls in their twenties also get breast cancer and ovarian cancer and cervical cancer and uterine cancer, these things, age, race, cancer is not discriminate against any of those whatsoever. early detection saves lives. It's I don't care if your doctor says wait until you're 40. No. Medical advocate for yourself that you want something done before you're 40 because you know statistically, people get cancer before 40. It's all over the place nowadays. So early detection saves lives. Feel something. It's kind of like see something, say something. Feel something, say something. Get into your doctor. Get those tests done. Get your your yearly exams done. Make sure if you you you listen to your body. Listen to your body. Your body will speak to you. Your body will tell you what it needs or if there's something wrong with it. But you have to listen. You have to know your body. it's breast cancer awareness month. October is all about the pink, the ribbons. I will say it's not all about pink and ribbons, because you know, there's people that are going through cancer that a pink ribbon isn't what's saving their life. It's The research, the treatment, the positivity, the family, the friends, the support. Mm-hmm. And early detection. Get yourself checked. Check yourself. Get those mammograms done. Get those ultrasounds done. don't think because if you have breast implants that you shouldn't be doing any of that, you get an ultrasound versus a mammogram. Get yourself checked out. Good work. Thank you, Summer. You're amazing. I can't wait for Yes. I can't either. Thank you so much, Summer. Thank you guys. And I'm excited to do some more. So thank you. Yes, it's a pleasure being around you. Thank you. We would just love to thank Summer for saying yes to being on the podcast and her story is incredible. This is just a very small chapter in a very giant story. And if this resonated with you, make sure that you like, follow, subscribe, comment, message. You know, the other day I was thinking, why do we say that? Apparently there's some sort of algorithm, something that will Make our podcast more known. I don't know. But everybody says it, so I'm saying it too.