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Halloween Week: Stardust Ranch · Wicked and Grim: A True Crime Podcast

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Speaker 1: It is here the seventh and final day of Halloween Week,
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Speaker 1: which means it.
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Speaker 2: Is at last all hallows Eve.
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Speaker 1: I am Jacko, and I have been your master of
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Speaker 1: ceremonies through these past few days and through these terrifying tales.
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Speaker 1: But today your hosts have saved the most shocking tale
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Speaker 1: for last. So without further ado, ladies, gentlemen, Theys and Dams,
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Speaker 1: let me introduce you to the hosts of Wicked and Grin,
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Speaker 1: the ones who will take you through the eerie history
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Speaker 1: of the infamous location known as Star Dust Ranch. Here
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Speaker 1: they are for the final day of Halloween Week.
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Speaker 3: Ben and Nickole, Happy Halloween, Happy Halloween.
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Speaker 2: The day is here, day seven of Halloween Week, and
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Speaker 2: it's Halloween Day. Yeah, we're curious what you guys are
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Speaker 2: doing for Halloween. Make sure you like send us a
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Speaker 2: message or whatever we want to know. But we are
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Speaker 2: for sure just sitting back having some drinks and of
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Speaker 2: course stop talking about Star Dust Ranch.
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Speaker 3: We sure are having some drinks and later gonna have
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Speaker 3: some pizza.
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Speaker 2: I think, is that what we're doing? We are doing pizza.
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Speaker 3: I'll do it. Why not?
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Speaker 2: Sweet?
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Speaker 3: Why not?
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Speaker 2: It's a day to celebrate, it is, it is honestly,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, the best day of the year.
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Speaker 3: Really, it is.
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Speaker 2: Name a better day. Name it. Let's hear it.
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Speaker 3: Anyone like you don't think your birthday is better?
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Speaker 2: No, that's only celebrating me, not.
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Speaker 3: A day that you get to go to a Canucks game.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's pretty cool. But Halloween, Halloween is always awesome.
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Speaker 2: The Canucks ain't always awesome.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, we witnessed that last night. That
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Speaker 3: was a doozy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, they lost six nothing, They shit the bed. In
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Speaker 2: their own words, it was embarrassing. So yeah and their
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Speaker 2: own yeah, that was myers, right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's funny because earlier I was like, that
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Speaker 3: was embarrassing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we digressed. That's hockey. You're not here for hockey.
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Speaker 2: You're here for some spooky, for some creepy, for some terrifying.
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Speaker 2: And that is exactly what I guarantee you start us
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Speaker 2: ranch has.
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Speaker 3: So Okay, well, two things we got to talk about
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Speaker 3: two things really really really quick. First of all, I
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Speaker 3: do think we should be going for a walk in
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Speaker 3: our skeleton one sees today because I just think we should, okay.
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Speaker 3: And second of all, there was a comment and we
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Speaker 3: should just say we won't be putting an outer an
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Speaker 3: episode on Friday like normally we put out episodes on
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Speaker 3: Tuesday and Friday. But just because of Halloween Week and
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Speaker 3: it was you know, seven days of episodes, our next
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Speaker 3: episode will not be until Tuesday. So just so you
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Speaker 3: guys are aware.
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Speaker 2: Correct, otherwise that would be like eight days. Yeah, and
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Speaker 2: it's just yeah, Tuesday, We're coming back Tuesday. And since
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Speaker 2: we didn't announce any patreons throughout Halloween Week, Tuesday, we
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Speaker 2: will be catching up and announcing all of you guys
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Speaker 2: who have subscribed in the past few days. We'll be
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Speaker 2: announcing you guys on Tuesday.
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Speaker 3: If you do want to carry on listening to this
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Speaker 3: Halloween Week, we do have three more episodes, one today,
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Speaker 3: once more on one the next day. That's going to
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Speaker 3: be going up on Patreon exactly. So if you're like,
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Speaker 3: I'm not done yet, you could sign up on there
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Speaker 3: if you want it. I have no pressure obviously.
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Speaker 2: And when you sign up, there's a huge back library
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Speaker 2: of all of our episodes because Patreon gets an extra
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Speaker 2: episode each month, and these three are yeah, basically a
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Speaker 2: continuation of Halloween Week. We didn't get an episode up
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Speaker 2: last month because we were a bit busy with our move,
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Speaker 2: so we are making it up with an extra episode
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Speaker 2: which is extending Halloween week. Long story short, So there
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Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, there you go.
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Speaker 3: Okay, we're ready for this one, though.
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Speaker 2: Are you ready for this one?
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Speaker 3: I think so?
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Speaker 2: You think so?
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Speaker 3: Thanks?
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Speaker 2: So okay, Well, make sure that you and I are
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Speaker 2: both topped up on our glasses. We are drinking wine
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Speaker 2: right now. Feel free to pour a drink for yourself.
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Speaker 2: If you're not an alcoholic person. Wow, not an alco
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're an alcoholic. If you're not drinking
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Speaker 2: or indulging in alcohol, feel free to pour any drink
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Speaker 2: you like. You worded that so terribly horrifically honestly, sit down,
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Speaker 2: have a drink with us. Have a drink with us
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Speaker 2: means you enjoy a drink of your.
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Speaker 3: Choosing glass, water, pop, whatever.
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Speaker 2: The only thing is I request that you make it
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Speaker 2: a little more enjoyable. Make that water a little extra cooler,
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Speaker 2: Put a straw in your pop. Those little things make
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Speaker 2: it extra.
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Speaker 3: Use the fancy glasses.
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Speaker 2: There you go, use the fancy glasses. Okay, Well, today
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Speaker 2: we are talking about Stardust Ranch and since childhood, the
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Speaker 2: man by the name of John Edmunds dreamed of owning
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Speaker 2: a ranch where he could provide a safe haven for animals.
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Speaker 2: Now his love for canines and horses alike was boundless,
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Speaker 2: and in nineteen ninety five, alongside his wife Joyce Edmunds,
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Speaker 2: he made the vision a reality by purchasing a ranch,
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Speaker 2: a sixteen hundred acre ranch. The couple aspired to create
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Speaker 2: a serene life in the countryside running their animal rescue initiative,
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Speaker 2: which they named Hopeful hoofs.
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Speaker 3: Oh Man, that's a dream for me. I would love
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Speaker 3: to have a little dog rescue of sorts.
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Speaker 2: If you had a dog rescue, I guarantee you would
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Speaker 2: probably be just husky rescue.
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Speaker 3: Well, because I probably would just end up keeping all them,
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Speaker 3: so probably it would have to be very niche, so
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Speaker 3: that we didn't have a million in one dogs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, most likely. Now I do want to I digress
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Speaker 2: a little bit here, But there is a husky rescue
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Speaker 2: I fall on Instagram and I love it, And that
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Speaker 2: is one hundred percent something you would do.
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Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent. I need to know the Yeah, I'll.
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Speaker 2: Hook you up after this. But their ranch is located
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Speaker 2: in Arizona in the United States, and John was previously
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Speaker 2: a psychiatric therapist. He shifted to the ranch life full
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Speaker 2: time when they purchased the property. He was determined to
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Speaker 2: nurture this project, and Joyce, on the other hand, worked
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Speaker 2: as an FBI agent. She was based in Phoenix, juggling
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Speaker 2: her demanding job while supporting the shared dream. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it was primarily John's dream. She didn't necessarily want to
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Speaker 2: like do the ranching, but she understood, like, hey, caring
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Speaker 2: for an animals and doing this rescue and rehabilitation will
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Speaker 2: be amazing. So it was kind of a shared dream,
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Speaker 2: but definitely heavier ended to be John's dream than hers.
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Speaker 2: They had quite the job, so wow, oh they did,
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Speaker 2: which I do want to clarify and point this out
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Speaker 2: right now since we're on the topic. They're definitely what's
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Speaker 2: the best way. They're credible people, credible individuals with good jobs,
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Speaker 2: good education, that sort of thing.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably like a good network too, or like resources
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Speaker 3: or whatever you want to say.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, So keep that in mind when we're talking
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Speaker 2: about this story here today. Now. The rescue flourished under
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Speaker 2: their care and eventually housed eight rescued rottweilers and a
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Speaker 2: herd of nearly two dozen horses. Now this was only
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Speaker 2: the beginning, right, but the ranch became a place of refuge,
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Speaker 2: not just for the animals that they cared for, but
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Speaker 2: also for visitors in need of emotional and therapeutic support
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Speaker 2: as well, providing sessions for young people with disabilities or
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Speaker 2: mental health challenges. And for a time, life seemed perfect
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Speaker 2: on this ranch. However, that sense of peace was unfortunately fleeting.
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Speaker 2: So when John and Joyce first arrived at Start and
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Speaker 2: Stardust Ranch, they just purchased the property, right, They're just
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Speaker 2: moving in, They just got the keys. They were met
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Speaker 2: with an unsettling surprise. The previous owner had left nearly
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Speaker 2: all of their belongings behind in the home, as if
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Speaker 2: they had just up and abruptly left for whatever reason.
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Speaker 3: Holy shit, Okay, yeah.
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Speaker 2: John was quite puzzled and assumed it was simply an oversight.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe they got the keys earlier than the
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Speaker 2: other people expected it, get to move out just yet, whatever,
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Speaker 2: So he reached out to his realtorf for some clarification.
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Speaker 2: The response he got back was a bit vague at first,
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Speaker 2: but after some persuasion, the realtor managed to contact the
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Speaker 2: former owners of the property, who agreed to return and
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Speaker 2: gather up their belongings. Okay, So, wanting to avoid confrontation,
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Speaker 2: John left to go to town to grab lunch. He
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Speaker 2: basically gave the former resident space to come back, get
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Speaker 2: their things and move on, right.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that sounds really nice exactly.
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Speaker 2: So Joyce at the time was at work in Phoenix,
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Speaker 2: you know, doing her daily nine to five, so it
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Speaker 2: was just John. He was alone that day, so he
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Speaker 2: went to town. After about three hours of being away
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Speaker 2: from the home and you know whatever, he returned expecting
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Speaker 2: to see the house cleared out, but instead he was
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Speaker 2: met with a very bizarre and infuriating site. Everything that
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Speaker 2: once cluttered the new home that they just purchased was
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Speaker 2: now instead tossed into the swimming pool outsides, which included
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Speaker 2: heavy appliances.
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Speaker 3: What the actual shit I would.
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Speaker 2: Be frick living exactly. John was pissed. He was both
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Speaker 2: confused and extremely frustrated and pissed.
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Speaker 3: Well yeah, like he was being nice.
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Speaker 2: Right, So he immediately called the realator back, being like
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Speaker 2: he was. It's not the realtor's fault, but he was.
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Speaker 2: He was pissed, right, Yeah. The realtor was was shocked
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Speaker 2: as well, and honestly, he didn't believe John at first,
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Speaker 2: so he made a trip to the property, took a
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Speaker 2: look at the scene firsthand, and he's like, yeah, this
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Speaker 2: is unacceptable. So he made some more phone calls, and
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Speaker 2: the previous owners accused John of dumping their possessions in
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Speaker 2: the pool out of spite. They alleged when they arrived
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Speaker 2: everything was already tossed in the pool and ruined, so
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Speaker 2: they were now refusing to return and retrieve the ruined
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Speaker 2: items out of the pool.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that is just like mind boggling.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, John was baffled. He denied the claims that he
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Speaker 2: did this to their property, and he asked for assistance
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Speaker 2: in resolving the issues, like maybe we can just get
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Speaker 2: it out together, let's just figure this out. But the
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Speaker 2: family refused. They cut off contact and were never heard
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Speaker 2: from again.
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Speaker 3: Huh. So then he just had to deal with all
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Speaker 3: the shit in the pool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it took him a weekend, but he managed to
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Speaker 2: clear throw out the pool by himself. Oh yeah, he's
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Speaker 2: basically clearing out the remnants of another family's life just
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Speaker 2: strewn on his own property.
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Speaker 3: Which would not be easy. There, Like, heavy shit in
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Speaker 3: a pool like that, I don't like, how would you
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Speaker 3: even get that out.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I'm not certain if the pool was filled
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Speaker 2: with water or if it was an empty pool. Okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm assuming that there was water in the pool, because
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Speaker 2: i mean, hey, ruined property and stuff, right, So now
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Speaker 2: not only are you removing heavy things from a hollowed
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Speaker 2: out pool, but you also have to drain your pool,
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Speaker 2: care for your pool, and you have water saturated objects
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Speaker 2: that are much heavier and fall apart well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah and like, and you have to lift them out
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Speaker 3: of the goddamn pool exactly.
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Speaker 2: So he would have burned some calories that day there.
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Speaker 3: For shit, he definitely deserves pizza, I think that, No.
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Speaker 2: Kidding, I'm not sure if I'm going to earn it,
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Speaker 2: but I'm still gonna eat it now at last, So
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Speaker 2: John managed to get the job done and with the
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Speaker 2: mesk on, the Edmunds said settled into their new home,
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Speaker 2: unaware of this strange encounters that would only be the
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Speaker 2: beginning and would only escalate from there. So on Monday morning,
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Speaker 2: John found himself in the kitchen, still sorting through boxes
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Speaker 2: and organizing their new home and new life. Midway through
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Speaker 2: his task, he glanced out the window and he noticed
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Speaker 2: a man approaching down the driveway of their home. The
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Speaker 2: man's appearance caught John's attention immediately. He was weathered and
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Speaker 2: rough looking, with the look of someone who might have
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Speaker 2: once served in the military. So I'm assuming he's wearing
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Speaker 2: some like maybe military barb or something. Right, and in
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Speaker 2: one hand the man held a machete.
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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I would just be terrified.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was well within the boundaries of their property
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Speaker 2: as he was making his way down the driveway towards
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Speaker 2: the house. Shit, so John immediately felt a need to
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Speaker 2: protect himself, his property, and his wife. Yeah, and though
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Speaker 2: I don't know exactly what he used, he had a
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Speaker 2: gun and I'm assuming it was a pistol of some sort,
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Speaker 2: and John stepped outside, prepared for whatever might come. Now,
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Speaker 2: he did keep his defense discrete, trying to avoid escalating
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Speaker 2: the situations, the most likely tucking it in the pocket
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Speaker 2: or something.
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Speaker 3: So didn't just run out of the host guns a.
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Speaker 2: Blazon, definitely not so. As he moved closer, he saw
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Speaker 2: the man was in worse shape than he initially thought.
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Speaker 2: He was apparently reportedly bare chested, sun scorched, and very disheveled,
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Speaker 2: looking as if though he had spent years exposed to
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Speaker 2: the elements. Still, John didn't judge a book by its cover.
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Speaker 2: He greeted him politely, saying, good afternoon, can help you
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Speaker 2: with something now. The stranger's lips twisted in a strange
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Speaker 2: grin and he responded with what are you doing here?
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Speaker 2: John explained that he and his wife, Joyce had just
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Speaker 2: purchased and moved into the property, and we're the new owners.
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Speaker 2: And the man's expression changed only slightly as he spoke
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Speaker 2: and referred to the names of the previous owners, showing
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Speaker 2: that he knew them by name, and asserted that he
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Speaker 2: watched over the property. Okay, so John was confused for
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Speaker 2: a second, you know. He reiterated, well, they're gone now
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Speaker 2: this place belongs to me. And the man's focus shifted
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Speaker 2: as he pointed towards the back, towards the back the property,
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Speaker 2: and he said, that's where I stay. And he pointed
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Speaker 2: to a room on like one of the barns. And
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Speaker 2: this was now where John's like storing saddles, and it
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Speaker 2: was his tack room for the horses. And I guess
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Speaker 2: that's where the man's saying he usually stayed there.
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Speaker 3: Okay, that was like his house kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, John's unease grew. He made it clear that no
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Speaker 2: one else was permitted to live on the property and
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Speaker 2: firmly asked the man to leave. He's basically like, okay,
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Speaker 2: well you may may have lived there, but we don't
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Speaker 2: need any help. You know what, Like, you don't live
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Speaker 2: there anymore. We own the property, right, fair enough? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: So the stranger he locked eyes with John and his
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Speaker 2: tone darkened immediately. He wasn't aggressive, he wasn't challenging John,
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Speaker 2: but he just simply said, you'll wish I was here.
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Speaker 2: And he's like, you're going to be sorry.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. I feel like John is probably like,
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Speaker 3: what the shit did I just purchase?
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Speaker 2: Oh?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, buyer's remorse for sure.
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Speaker 2: Well, John was deaf taken aback at least by this statement.
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Speaker 2: He's like, well, what do you mean by that? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and the man said, quote, there are monsters here and
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Speaker 2: I get rid of them.
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Speaker 3: Well, oh no, okay.
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Speaker 2: That's what this disheveled man with a machete in his
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Speaker 2: hand just said. John thought this man must be unstable,
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Speaker 2: or he may be under the influence or something. Either way,
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Speaker 2: he had to leave, and the the man didn't. He
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Speaker 2: didn't resist or anything after that, He just simply watched
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Speaker 2: as the man finally turned and walked back down the driveway.
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Speaker 2: It kind of crossed John's mind that the previous owners
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Speaker 2: might have allowed this man to stay, potentially out of
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Speaker 2: fear of him, you know what he may be capable of,
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Speaker 2: or possibly even pity. You know, maybe this deranged guy,
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Speaker 2: this local guy, and you know what, we're giving him
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Speaker 2: a place to stay or purpose. Yeah, watch over and
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Speaker 2: take care of the monsters, you know who knows?
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Speaker 3: Right, Okay, so he got yeah, he was able to
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Speaker 3: kind of like make up a story about this in
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Speaker 3: this yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, and John sitting here thinking, he's like, well, whatever
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Speaker 2: the situation, it's still unsettling. We can't have a ranged person,
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Speaker 2: or we can't have someone staying in a property that
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Speaker 2: we don't know. We can't do this. Well yeah, but
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Speaker 2: the day that that man walked off the property, he
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Speaker 2: never bothered John again. He never returned, but his words
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Speaker 2: would stick in John's mind because strange events at Stardus
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Speaker 2: Ranch were only escalating from.
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Speaker 3: Here, and his words were basically like that monsters live here.
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Speaker 2: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, He's like, I take care of
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Speaker 2: the property. There are monsters that live here and I
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Speaker 2: take care of them, I kill them.
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Speaker 3: That is unsettling.
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Speaker 2: So how do you feel after this, because that's basically
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Speaker 2: the introduction to this story.
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Speaker 3: I mean I was thinking, like I said, buyer's remorse.
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Speaker 3: He may have some of that.
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Speaker 2: Well, if you think he has buyer's remorse, just buckle
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Speaker 2: up here, Just buckle up, because if he doesn't have
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Speaker 2: it yet, he will.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Long after settling into the new life life at the ranch,
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Speaker 2: John and Joyce decided to enjoy an evening out in Phoenix,
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Speaker 2: treating themselves to a movie at a local theater. The
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Speaker 2: drive home under the starlet sky felt very peaceful. You know,
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Speaker 2: this is their life away from it, all right, and
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Speaker 2: they were just at the city. They were enjoying a
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Speaker 2: city night life. But now they get to drive back
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Speaker 2: to peace, to quiet, and the stars in the sky
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Speaker 2: just were the cherry on top.
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that sounds lovely.
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Speaker 2: But then as they opponent approached their property, that's when
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Speaker 2: they both spotted a cluster of strange glowing orbs in
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Speaker 2: the sky on the south end of the property. The
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Speaker 2: lights danced in erratic patterns, appearing to vanish, as though
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Speaker 2: they were performing some sort of coordinated routine, almost, and
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Speaker 2: they noted that the orbs were a vivid orange and
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Speaker 2: moved with speeds far greater than any craft. That they
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Speaker 2: knew something that planes or aircrafts or helicopters could not
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Speaker 2: perform with our technology today. They did consider a nearby
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Speaker 2: air force base as potential explanations. But these nights or
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Speaker 2: these lights were doing things unexplained, and they were noiseless,
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Speaker 2: unlike any conventional planes. They could have come to mind
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Speaker 2: right three months into their stay at the ranch, Joyce
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Speaker 2: found herself increasingly apprehensive about their decision to move and
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Speaker 2: to purchase his place, a feeling compounded by John's unusual behavior.
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Speaker 2: He was once very even tempered, but now he seemed
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Speaker 2: perpetually on edge, often complaining about items mysteriously going missing
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Speaker 2: or inexplicably turning up in wrong places. At first, Joyce
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Speaker 2: dismissed all these concerns, attributing them to just stress of
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Speaker 2: the move or managing the now sprawling property, because this
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Speaker 2: is a new endeavor, right, There's a lot going on,
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Speaker 2: not only you know, with with their lives, but mental
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Speaker 2: and physical right well, and so much learning too, I imagine.
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Speaker 2: But his frustrations only grew as he observed strange occurrences
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Speaker 2: when Joyce was at work. John's complaints soon included tales
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Speaker 2: of electrical devices malfunctioning without cause, flickering on and off
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Speaker 2: without any sort of warning whatsoever. The situation just was strange.
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Speaker 2: It puzzled him, and especially after electrical tests were done.
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Speaker 2: They had an electricians show up and actually inspect everything,
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Speaker 2: and test showed everything to be in perfect working order. Yeah. Now,
18:16
Speaker 2: one evening, Joyce herself even witnessed this phenomena firsthand. Just
18:21
Speaker 2: as they were preparing to sleep, the television abruptly turned on,
18:24
Speaker 2: soon followed by the radio as well. This was not
18:27
Speaker 2: a one time event, though, and even the animals in
18:30
Speaker 2: the ranch began to show signs of anxiety. The dogs
18:33
Speaker 2: barked incessantly, and the horses appeared very jumpy, with their
18:36
Speaker 2: ears pinned back in agitation. As things continued, John and
18:40
Speaker 2: Joyce began to question whether they might be there might
18:43
Speaker 2: be a rational explanation out there for all of this.
18:46
Speaker 2: They thought, maybe, you know what, carbon monoxide poisoning might
18:49
Speaker 2: be responsible for odd experiences or hallucinations. Right, Maybe they're
18:54
Speaker 2: seeing things and there's a legitimate answer for why they're
18:56
Speaker 2: seeing things.
18:57
Speaker 3: Okay, so they're like stepping back in like pretty logical
19:01
Speaker 3: about this really.
19:03
Speaker 2: Which brings us back to their very you know, respectable
19:06
Speaker 2: people they have. They have titles that like not only
19:09
Speaker 2: are they, you know, sound of mind, but they're they're
19:12
Speaker 2: educated individuals. Right. Yeah, so they they did their due
19:16
Speaker 2: diligence in actually, like you say, stepping back and thinking
19:19
Speaker 2: about it logically. But after comprehensive safety checks, including inspection
19:24
Speaker 2: of gas lines, these suspicions were put to rest because
19:29
Speaker 2: everything came back clear. John had also arranged for a
19:33
Speaker 2: local phone company to come and install a landline at
19:35
Speaker 2: one point, but even this simple mundane thing, you know,
19:38
Speaker 2: a scheduling an appointment for someone to come out, plug
19:41
Speaker 2: in a phone and run some wire, it became complicated
19:45
Speaker 2: and strange. The worker failed up to show twice despite
19:49
Speaker 2: confirming appointments, and when they finally arrived in the third attempt,
19:53
Speaker 2: John noticed the technicians seemed very hesitant to leave the truck.
19:57
Speaker 2: The Edmunds rottweilers barked furiously from in the home when
20:01
Speaker 2: a stranger arrived from the driveway, right, but John reassured
20:03
Speaker 2: the worker they were secured. They're they're all good right,
20:06
Speaker 2: don't worry about them, they're locked up.
20:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, dogs spark exactly.
20:11
Speaker 2: The man, though, with an uneasy expression, muttered, it's not
20:15
Speaker 2: the dogs I'm worried about.
20:16
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, So he had some history here exactly,
20:21
Speaker 3: perhaps yeah.
20:22
Speaker 2: Well, John right away is like what do you mean?
20:24
Speaker 2: And he asked, you know, kind of like this question,
20:26
Speaker 2: half expecting an explanation. But the technician's response or the
20:31
Speaker 2: explanation that he did give, was sobering for John, and
20:34
Speaker 2: he's like, haven't you heard about your house? Yeah? John
20:40
Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean. He's like, it's a big,
20:43
Speaker 2: beautiful house out in the middle of nowhere, Like, it's
20:45
Speaker 2: gorgeous property. What are you talking about. The man didn't laugh, though,
20:49
Speaker 2: despite John trying to laugh it off and be like
20:51
Speaker 2: it's a great place.
20:51
Speaker 3: Uh huh.
20:53
Speaker 2: With a grave tone, he told him about the original owner,
20:57
Speaker 2: who had bought the land as a grand gesture for
21:00
Speaker 2: his wife. Originally, as the story went, she had refused
21:04
Speaker 2: to live there, claiming there was a dark presence of sorts,
21:07
Speaker 2: a dark energy or an oppressive presence within its walls.
21:13
Speaker 2: More chilling. Later on, the residents were said to have
21:15
Speaker 2: experienced their own tragedy as their son passed away under
21:18
Speaker 2: mysterious circumstances on the property, and that's when the grief
21:23
Speaker 2: stricken parents were unable to stay any longer and sold
21:26
Speaker 2: the property, which is when it changed hands and John
21:30
Speaker 2: and his wife became the new owners.
21:32
Speaker 3: Okay, So the people that John believed like through all
21:36
Speaker 3: their shit in the pool was them, Yes, Okay.
21:40
Speaker 2: It was then that John finally began to understand just
21:42
Speaker 2: how deep the shadows at Stardust Ranch trupan. These experiences
21:48
Speaker 2: that they were, you know, just starting to experience didn't
21:54
Speaker 2: seem to just be for them. If the previous owners
21:56
Speaker 2: saying that there's something dark and oppressive or energies whatever
22:00
Speaker 2: and refused to live in its walls, that means it's
22:03
Speaker 2: not just you.
22:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's so scary and so sad too, because
22:08
Speaker 3: I mean, like, you put money into this, right, like.
22:10
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Yeah, not only is it money, it's energy. Dream,
22:14
Speaker 2: it's a dreams. There's so much mental things that go
22:18
Speaker 2: along with trying to live out a dream and that
22:20
Speaker 2: dream being crushed.
22:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's probably the worst of it really.
22:25
Speaker 2: Now. One morning, as John Edmonds followed his usual routine
22:28
Speaker 2: of feeding eight Rottweilers. He noticed something. One of the
22:32
Speaker 2: dogs was missing. There was only seven dogs there. The
22:36
Speaker 2: animals were always secured overnight, but for some reason, one
22:39
Speaker 2: was gone. John searched the property, scouring every corner until
22:43
Speaker 2: he stumbled upon a site that sent chills down his spine.
22:46
Speaker 3: No no, no, no.
22:48
Speaker 2: Please snow the remains of the missing dog, frick. What
22:52
Speaker 2: he saw was bizarre and he couldn't make sense of it.
22:57
Speaker 2: The body of the dog appeared to be crushed, almost
23:00
Speaker 2: as if flattened by a steam roller or something, but
23:04
Speaker 2: there were no signs of what could have done this
23:06
Speaker 2: to the dog anywhere. John stood there, stunned over the
23:09
Speaker 2: dog's remains, unable to process the scene, and he also
23:12
Speaker 2: noticed that the ground surrounding the dog was dry and
23:16
Speaker 2: eerily free of any bodily fluids from the animal.
23:19
Speaker 3: Oh okay, and yeah, if you're crushing, you know, a
23:23
Speaker 3: living thing, it's.
23:25
Speaker 2: Probably going to be a kin to a tube of toothpaste.
23:27
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, then seriously, you just went there.
23:31
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but that means like things spill out. You
23:34
Speaker 2: don't know, I know, but there was nothing spilled out.
23:37
Speaker 2: Even more unsettling was the fact that none of the
23:40
Speaker 2: other dogs had barked during the night, a behavior John
23:42
Speaker 2: was sure would have alerted them if there was a disturbance.
23:44
Speaker 2: M He had questions in his mind. He's like, how
23:48
Speaker 2: did the dog get out? Maybe he overlooked the dog
23:50
Speaker 2: when he was like putting them all away for the night.
23:52
Speaker 2: Maybe he only put away seven. This one was out.
23:55
Speaker 2: But the scenario still made no sense. Nothing made sense.
23:58
Speaker 2: This incident, as John and later recounted, marked a turning
24:01
Speaker 2: point for him. It felt from there on as if
24:05
Speaker 2: though something or someone was actively trying to sabotage not
24:09
Speaker 2: just their peace, but their safety for them and their
24:11
Speaker 2: animals on the property as well.
24:13
Speaker 1: Well.
24:13
Speaker 3: Yeah, and these are like rescued animals, so like fuck off.
24:17
Speaker 2: Right, as if they haven't had a hard enough Yeah
24:19
Speaker 2: so far?
24:19
Speaker 3: Like that just pisses me right off now.
24:22
Speaker 2: John also started to notice unexplained marks on the bodies
24:26
Speaker 2: of the horses, almost as if they had been lightly
24:29
Speaker 2: cut by an extremely sharp object, Yet there was no
24:32
Speaker 2: signs of intruders or predatory attacks or anything. The mystery
24:36
Speaker 2: deepened even further when John and Joyce themselves found similar
24:40
Speaker 2: marks in their own bodies when they woke up in
24:42
Speaker 2: the morning. With no memory of how they got them.
24:45
Speaker 2: Around this time, they both began seeing more and more
24:48
Speaker 2: of these strange luminous orbs in the sky, the same
24:52
Speaker 2: ones they'd seen on that first month, you know, months
24:55
Speaker 2: prior that first time when they saw him dancing above
24:57
Speaker 2: the southern fields. The lights now appeared closer to the ground,
25:00
Speaker 2: though moving in ways that defied logic. Once again, John
25:04
Speaker 2: often mistook them for trespassers with flashlights along the property,
25:07
Speaker 2: and he would head outside to confront them. Yet every
25:10
Speaker 2: time he did so, the lights would vanish or zoomed
25:13
Speaker 2: away at impossible speeds, either darting along the ground or
25:16
Speaker 2: ascending directly into the sky. It's impossible for someone with
25:21
Speaker 2: a flashlight to those Well.
25:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:24
Speaker 2: When John struggled to make sense of it, Joyce's on
25:26
Speaker 2: ease turned into outright fear. She began urging him to
25:29
Speaker 2: consider leaving the property, selling it, whatever they had to do,
25:33
Speaker 2: feeling that whatever was happening at Stardus's ranch was unnatural.
25:37
Speaker 2: But John he remained solid. He this was their ranch.
25:44
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to be driven away by lights. He
25:46
Speaker 2: was determined to hold his ground. So for a long time,
25:49
Speaker 2: they both chose to keep their experiences to themselves. They
25:52
Speaker 2: knew that people would think that if they began talking
25:54
Speaker 2: about this, no one's gonna believe them. They're going to
25:57
Speaker 2: think they're they're crazy or whatever. Right, But john silence
26:01
Speaker 2: finally broke when the situation escalated.
26:03
Speaker 3: Well, I just have to say, too, that's so lonely, hey,
26:05
Speaker 3: to just be like bottling that all up and having
26:08
Speaker 3: to keep it all to yourself and stuff.
26:10
Speaker 2: Right now, the unsettling incidents involving the animals became severe.
26:16
Speaker 2: John began to find the remains of his horses scattered
26:19
Speaker 2: across the property. Though these bodies differed from what he
26:23
Speaker 2: had seen before. They weren't crushed, but their condition was
26:26
Speaker 2: equally disturbing. Organs like eyes and tongues had been meticulously removed,
26:31
Speaker 2: and John suspected that internal organs were missing as well.
26:36
Speaker 2: The precision of these injuries baffled him. There were no
26:39
Speaker 2: claw marks or signs of predators, only clean, surgical like cuts. O.
26:45
Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, that's really fucked up.
26:48
Speaker 2: On more than one occasion, John discovered that a horse
26:50
Speaker 2: had simply disappeared without a trace. There were no signs
26:53
Speaker 2: of a struggle, there were no remains left behind, just
26:56
Speaker 2: an empty stall.
26:58
Speaker 3: Oh gosh that okay though, no, this is just pissing
27:03
Speaker 3: me off here.
27:04
Speaker 2: I think you might need to fill up your glass
27:05
Speaker 2: of wine a little more.
27:06
Speaker 3: Oh seriously, is it just gonna keep going here?
27:08
Speaker 2: Oh? We just getting started?
27:10
Speaker 3: Oh man, okay.
27:13
Speaker 2: But we are done with the animals. I'll tell you that.
27:15
Speaker 3: Okay, okay.
27:17
Speaker 2: So John search for logical answers continued to take up
27:21
Speaker 2: his every waking thought, But logic came to an abrupt
27:24
Speaker 2: end one morning when he walked to the horse paddock
27:27
Speaker 2: and noticed something truly disturbing. Several of the heavy metal
27:31
Speaker 2: fence panels that lined around the property, each weighing around
27:34
Speaker 2: one hundred pounds, were bent as if they were made
27:38
Speaker 2: of soft wire. He stood there, staring at the twisted
27:42
Speaker 2: metal and struggled to comprehend what could have caused this
27:45
Speaker 2: metal to bend like this. If it were machinery, he
27:48
Speaker 2: would have seen it, or there would be tracks left behind,
27:50
Speaker 2: but there were none. None of his animals could have
27:53
Speaker 2: done it. Even the local livestock board was at a loss.
27:56
Speaker 2: Because he finally approached someone and spoke of some of this,
28:00
Speaker 2: they confirmed not only was his horses or anything not
28:04
Speaker 2: capable of this, but there was no known predator in
28:07
Speaker 2: the area which could provide this sort of incident to occur.
28:13
Speaker 3: Can you imagine just waking up every day and being like,
28:15
Speaker 3: what the fuck's gonna happen today?
28:17
Speaker 2: Right? I can't imagine, Like that is just horrible. I
28:22
Speaker 2: mean I do feel like we kind of live like
28:24
Speaker 2: that a little bit, but it's mostly because, like, you know,
28:27
Speaker 2: work people that sort of stuff. This is like a
28:31
Speaker 2: whole new level.
28:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's more like what kind of shit? Yeah,
28:35
Speaker 3: like what kind of awful shit's gonna happen to You're
28:38
Speaker 3: just like preparing yourself.
28:39
Speaker 2: How can my mind be blown? And how can I
28:42
Speaker 2: be confused as fuck? Today?
28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, well that.
28:45
Speaker 2: Also sounds like some jobs I've had before.
28:47
Speaker 3: Okay, so maybe this is just a normal day in
28:49
Speaker 3: everyone's life.
28:50
Speaker 2: Enough, yeah, okay. Now, as the weeks did turn into months,
28:54
Speaker 2: John began to feel an unsettling presence around his house,
28:57
Speaker 2: a gnawing paranoia that someone or something was why him
29:00
Speaker 2: and Joyce. The sensation actually became so oppressive that John
29:03
Speaker 2: even avoided showering because he was convinced that he was
29:06
Speaker 2: never truly alone. Holy He once again kept these fears
29:11
Speaker 2: to himself, though not only from like other people, but
29:14
Speaker 2: he also kind of hid this from Joyce Little Yeah,
29:16
Speaker 2: because he didn't want to scare her any more than
29:18
Speaker 2: she already were right. But it was up for John
29:23
Speaker 2: to decide, and that's the choice he made. However, he
29:27
Speaker 2: didn't have every choice. He didn't have every decision, He
29:30
Speaker 2: didn't have much control because soon the unexplained activity would
29:34
Speaker 2: take a much darker turn once again. One night, after
29:40
Speaker 2: Joyce had fallen asleep beside him, John laid awake in bed,
29:44
Speaker 2: unable to shake that sensation that someone was watching him,
29:47
Speaker 2: that eyes were on him. He sat up and he
29:51
Speaker 2: stared around the dimly lit room with that feeling of
29:55
Speaker 2: being watched. When all of a sudden, his eyes focused
29:58
Speaker 2: on something the darkness. He saw three shadowy figures gliding
30:02
Speaker 2: across the walls of the room.
30:04
Speaker 3: Oh Man.
30:06
Speaker 2: A wave of dread paralyzed him, rooting him to the
30:08
Speaker 2: bed for a moment, but summing up the courage, he
30:10
Speaker 2: managed to reach for a baseball bat that he kept
30:12
Speaker 2: beside the bed, and just as his fingers wrapped around
30:15
Speaker 2: the handle, something cold and clay brushed up against his arm.
30:20
Speaker 2: He managed to wrap his hands around that bat firmly,
30:24
Speaker 2: and panic surged through him as he gripped it, and
30:26
Speaker 2: he began to swing at the intruder. His eyes fixed
30:29
Speaker 2: on the shape in the dim light. It was a
30:31
Speaker 2: small gray figure with large, bulbous eyes, and the bat
30:34
Speaker 2: in John's hand struck that figure, and he continued to
30:38
Speaker 2: swing it repeatedly. After he struck it for the third time,
30:42
Speaker 2: the figure let out a low hissing sound and vanished
30:45
Speaker 2: along with the others.
30:47
Speaker 3: And meanwhile, his wife is just sleep we'll probably awake.
30:51
Speaker 2: At this point, gasping for breath, John grabbed John, dropped
30:57
Speaker 2: the bat and shook Joyce awake. Oh geez, yeah, shouting
31:01
Speaker 2: that he now understood what was terrorizing them and their animals, which,
31:06
Speaker 2: of course, as we can all assume, is extraterrestrious. Okay, well, a,
31:12
Speaker 2: that whole scene is just something out of a fucking nightmare.
31:16
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it makes me get a headache here.
31:18
Speaker 3: But also the fact that Joyce sleeps that well is
31:21
Speaker 3: mind blowing to me.
31:22
Speaker 2: Was she sleeping though? Mm?
31:25
Speaker 3: They could have had like control over that.
31:27
Speaker 2: Potentially, hey, potentially we'll touch them here in a little bit. Okay,
31:32
Speaker 2: So John described the creatures as standing roughly four feet tall,
31:36
Speaker 2: with elongated limbs and eyes that were dark and bulging.
31:40
Speaker 2: Although the initial encounter left him shaken, it was far
31:43
Speaker 2: from the last one he would have. In fact, sightings
31:46
Speaker 2: of the gray figures would only increase. Both John and
31:50
Speaker 2: Joyce started seeing them more and more frequently, appearing briefly
31:54
Speaker 2: at night in their room and even during the day
31:56
Speaker 2: around the ranch. The unsettling visits forced John On to
32:00
Speaker 2: arm himself, constantly carrying a weapon with him for protection
32:03
Speaker 2: wherever he went. He even discharged his weapon for warning
32:07
Speaker 2: shots and several occasions to scare them off. John was
32:12
Speaker 2: convinced these beings were responsible for the strange marks on him, Joyce,
32:17
Speaker 2: and the animals. Now. One night, in a moment of defiance,
32:22
Speaker 2: he confronted them directly, asking them, why are you here,
32:25
Speaker 2: Why are you invading our home? Why are you harming us?
32:27
Speaker 2: He demanded an answer, but silence. There was nothing that
32:31
Speaker 2: came back from them.
32:33
Speaker 3: This man is I almost feel like he's just like
32:36
Speaker 3: a legend, because I would be like just long gone
32:40
Speaker 3: at this point.
32:40
Speaker 2: I feel like fair enough, I would have probably ran.
32:44
Speaker 3: And now he's just actually like confronting them and asking
32:47
Speaker 3: them what the shit they're doing?
32:48
Speaker 2: Right?
32:49
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay, I.
32:50
Speaker 2: Bet you're right about now he's understanding that guy with
32:52
Speaker 2: the machete and saying there's moms.
32:55
Speaker 3: Yeah.
32:57
Speaker 2: So the visits were relentless and invasive. They occurred up
33:01
Speaker 2: to three times a week, always with beings appearing in
33:05
Speaker 2: a group of three. Feeling that the baseball bat that
33:08
Speaker 2: he held beside his bed was insufficient at this point,
33:10
Speaker 2: John decided to replace it with a blade, a sword instead.
33:15
Speaker 2: This is what he used to protect their home at night,
33:18
Speaker 2: also with his I'm assuming pistol by his.
33:20
Speaker 3: Side man and also never ever getting a wink asleep again.
33:24
Speaker 2: Exactly now one evening as dah as dusk fell across
33:29
Speaker 2: the ranch, John found himself heading to the kitchen when
33:32
Speaker 2: an unsettling scene unfolded. He saw three small gray figures
33:36
Speaker 2: moving inside the house. His Rottwilers had sent them two
33:39
Speaker 2: and their fierce barking began, and this whole chaotic moment unraveled.
33:46
Speaker 2: John ran and grabbed the sword and he struck one
33:49
Speaker 2: of these beings. As before, when John struck the being,
33:53
Speaker 2: it disappeared. However, now with it being a blade that
33:57
Speaker 2: he held in his hand, he the flesh of this being,
34:02
Speaker 2: and there were remnants that did not vanish that stayed
34:06
Speaker 2: on the blade. Oh boy, there was a piece of
34:10
Speaker 2: tissue from its flesh stuck to the tip. After this
34:15
Speaker 2: encounter finished, John was unsure what to do, but he
34:19
Speaker 2: did take this strange piece of tissue and placed it
34:21
Speaker 2: in a glass jar and stored it in the freezer. Now,
34:26
Speaker 2: at the time, like he didn't know what to do
34:27
Speaker 2: with it.
34:27
Speaker 3: Well, I know, it's just like so funny when you
34:29
Speaker 3: don't do with anything, you just put.
34:30
Speaker 2: It in your freezer. Yeah, But at the time John
34:33
Speaker 2: was working as a producer for a radio station as
34:36
Speaker 2: well as doing the ranch stuff right, And through this
34:40
Speaker 2: he was introduced, like through a friend of a friend
34:42
Speaker 2: of a friend, kind of situation, to a biophysicist by
34:46
Speaker 2: the name of doctor Len Good. Though initially skeptical, doctor
34:51
Speaker 2: Good expressed interest and agreed to analyze this tissue sample
34:55
Speaker 2: that John had collected. So John shipped the tissue sample
34:59
Speaker 2: to him. Three months doctor could. Doctor Good called back
35:04
Speaker 2: with an electrifying tone in his voice, and he said, quote,
35:09
Speaker 2: you have the smoking gun. This is undeniable evidence of
35:14
Speaker 2: non human visitation.
35:18
Speaker 3: Really, yes, holy shit.
35:22
Speaker 2: He explained, that the sample contained segmented fibers reminiscent of
35:26
Speaker 2: plant structures, but unlike anything he's seen in blood. It was,
35:31
Speaker 2: according to him, composed almost entirely of hemoglobin and an
35:35
Speaker 2: anomaly that defied explanation. It was not of this fucking
35:39
Speaker 2: world or anything we know to be on this planet.
35:43
Speaker 3: Huh wow.
35:46
Speaker 2: John was shocked. Well, yeah, this was it. He and
35:49
Speaker 2: his wife had scientifically backed evidence to prove that what
35:53
Speaker 2: was happening at their ranch was real.
35:55
Speaker 1: M h.
35:56
Speaker 2: But things took a turn when, all of a sudden
36:00
Speaker 2: in the following days, doctor Good abruptly ceased all contact
36:04
Speaker 2: with John. Any attempts John made to reach out to
36:09
Speaker 2: him went unanswered, and later John learned that doctor Good
36:13
Speaker 2: passed away on September twenty eighth, twenty thirteen, at the
36:16
Speaker 2: age of eighty eight, reportedly from a head injury after
36:19
Speaker 2: a fall in his lab. Doctor Good's wife also passed
36:24
Speaker 2: away a few weeks later, and the sample that he
36:27
Speaker 2: sent to doctor Good was never seen again.
36:33
Speaker 3: No, yes, oh, holy crap.
36:39
Speaker 2: Yes, doctor Good is a real person. Yes, doctor Good is.
36:43
Speaker 2: There's a paper trail of their connection, their conversation. There
36:48
Speaker 2: is you know, like he was a person that died
36:51
Speaker 2: from a head injury in his lab.
36:55
Speaker 3: Huh okay, I don't even know what the hell to say.
37:01
Speaker 2: That is just fucking wha.
37:04
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's beyond fucked that.
37:07
Speaker 2: When I heard that, I honestly I was like you,
37:10
Speaker 2: I was speechless. I didn't know what to say or
37:12
Speaker 2: what to think. You have the smoking gun. This is
37:16
Speaker 2: the what was the quote? Let me scroll back and
37:19
Speaker 2: see you have the smoking gun. This is undeniable evidence
37:25
Speaker 2: of non human visitation.
37:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then just basically it disappears and they're dead.
37:34
Speaker 2: Yeah.
37:36
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that makes you just feel a little bit
37:39
Speaker 3: sick too, right really now.
37:43
Speaker 2: Not long after, John and his friend were outside in
37:45
Speaker 2: the ranch when a black suv pulled up. Two men
37:50
Speaker 2: dressed in black suits.
37:51
Speaker 3: The men in black there.
37:53
Speaker 2: You go, emerged and walked up to the seven foot
37:56
Speaker 2: tall locked gate at the end of the driveway without pausing.
37:59
Speaker 2: They were reportedly appeared to walk straight through the fucking gate.
38:06
Speaker 3: What the actual shit. I didn't think the men in
38:08
Speaker 3: black thing was legit.
38:10
Speaker 2: There's a lot of reported cases the men in black.
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Speaker 3: Gosh, I'm done.
38:15
Speaker 2: So John and his friend were obviously fucking terrified. Oh man,
38:19
Speaker 2: and they retreated, but the men managed to approach and
38:23
Speaker 2: they got within ten feet and John said they looked weird, tall, pale,
38:28
Speaker 2: and he demanded to see their identification, accusing them of
38:32
Speaker 2: trespassing on his property. They ignored him, and they told
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Speaker 2: John to stop talking about the craft he had seen
38:38
Speaker 2: on his property. John once again demanded for id The men, unfazed,
38:44
Speaker 2: ignored it and turned and walked back again through the
38:48
Speaker 2: gate before driving off. Now, the craft John had seen
38:54
Speaker 2: and often spoke about, was said to be massive, around
38:57
Speaker 2: one hundred feet in diameter, and frequently hoped over the ranch.
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Speaker 2: This encounter, coupled with all the escalating incidents, made John
39:05
Speaker 2: fear for his safety, prompting him to share his story publicly. Finally,
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Speaker 2: so we will talk about that craft in an incident,
39:13
Speaker 2: a specific incident here in a bit.
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Speaker 3: But I cannot, you know, I'm just sitting here just
39:18
Speaker 3: like amaze that they're they're still there. Right wow.
39:22
Speaker 2: So John appeared on various radio shows, including Coast to
39:25
Speaker 2: Coast AM, hoping that being vocal would protect him if
39:28
Speaker 2: anything were to happen to him. Right okay, yeah, basically
39:31
Speaker 2: saying like go ahead and off me or whatever, like
39:34
Speaker 2: it's going to be a public thing because of what
39:36
Speaker 2: I'm announcing.
39:36
Speaker 3: Now, right.
39:38
Speaker 2: So Joyce, however, she chose to stay out of the
39:41
Speaker 2: spotlight and declined any interview requests, so it was just
39:44
Speaker 2: John who was the one who was coming forward. Throughout
39:47
Speaker 2: their time at Startus Ranch, the Edmunds reported numerous incidents
39:51
Speaker 2: of paralysis, during which they felt trapped, unable to move
39:54
Speaker 2: or call for help. Joyce experienced these episodes more frequently
39:58
Speaker 2: than John, but he felt that he had marked or
40:01
Speaker 2: so he felt that she had been marked by these entities.
40:03
Speaker 2: He was as well, but her maybe a little more
40:05
Speaker 2: right so, John described sudden, excruciating pain and a crushing
40:10
Speaker 2: sensation followed by a mysterious indentation on his left leg.
40:15
Speaker 2: Both he and Joyce would often wake up with unexplained
40:17
Speaker 2: puncture marks and bruises on their inner thighs, abdomens, and chest.
40:21
Speaker 2: They also reported triangular impressions in their skin and describe
40:24
Speaker 2: their symptoms as akin to radiation exposure, their skin peeling
40:28
Speaker 2: and tingling, as if though affected by an unseen force.
40:32
Speaker 2: According to John, Joyce repeatedly levitated on multiple occasions in
40:36
Speaker 2: the middle of the night. The first time it happened.
40:39
Speaker 2: John was shocked to find her hovering in the air,
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Speaker 2: still fast asleep. He tried calling out to her to
40:45
Speaker 2: wake up, but she remained deep in asleep as suspended
40:48
Speaker 2: above the bed. Only when he reached out and grabbed
40:51
Speaker 2: on to her shoulder and shouted, did she finally open
40:54
Speaker 2: her eyes, and she fell abruptly back to the bed
40:57
Speaker 2: without a word, drifting right back to sleep, and she
41:00
Speaker 2: had no memory of what transpired. Each time this phenomenon occurred,
41:05
Speaker 2: Joyce awoke with no recollection of levitating. One night, I'm just.
41:14
Speaker 3: Sitting here, just like wrecked. I don't even know what
41:16
Speaker 3: to do.
41:16
Speaker 2: I've noticed, I've noticed now. One night, John witnessed something
41:19
Speaker 2: even more unsettling. Joyce levitating as I've already described, and
41:23
Speaker 2: she began moving towards the wall and then began to
41:27
Speaker 2: pass through it as if it weren't solid and weren't
41:29
Speaker 2: even there. Panicking, John tried to grab her ankles in
41:33
Speaker 2: an attempt to pull her back, but it was to
41:36
Speaker 2: no avail, and determined to not let her vanish, she
41:39
Speaker 2: ran around outside the front door and out to take
41:42
Speaker 2: a look at where she was, and watched helplessly as
41:46
Speaker 2: she was drawn towards a metallic craft that hovered above
41:49
Speaker 2: the ground. The object was roughly one hundred feet in diameter,
41:52
Speaker 2: the same one that we mentioned earlier. It radiated a
41:57
Speaker 2: bright blueish white light from its unders that seemed to
42:00
Speaker 2: be what was pulling Joyce towards it. Desperate John took
42:04
Speaker 2: the weapon that he held very closely, probably within his
42:07
Speaker 2: pocket as I said earlier, and as a final attempt,
42:11
Speaker 2: fired at the craft to try and save his wife.
42:15
Speaker 2: The action seemed to work, as Joyce was released, fell
42:18
Speaker 2: to the ground and woke up immediately, but this time
42:21
Speaker 2: she remembered everything. Despite how extraordinary and difficult these accounts
42:28
Speaker 2: are to believe, the Edmunds have stood by their claims,
42:32
Speaker 2: never wavering. The unusual activity on the ranch didn't let up.
42:37
Speaker 2: They reported regular sightings of men in dark suits who
42:39
Speaker 2: appeared to be monitoring them from a distance as events
42:42
Speaker 2: continue to unfold on their property.
42:44
Speaker 3: Kay, whoa, whoa, whoa, this shit just happened where she's
42:48
Speaker 3: like being almost taken. Yes, and they're still there. Holy shit,
42:54
Speaker 3: what's gonna make them leave? Uh? I mean I get
42:58
Speaker 3: that there's so much too lee thing, but.
43:00
Speaker 2: Geez yeah, so John, unfortunately passed away in February of
43:07
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, leaving behind his wife Joyce.
43:10
Speaker 3: Was it natural or not? Yes, it was okay.
43:13
Speaker 2: Following his death, the ranch underwent some renovations and was
43:16
Speaker 2: listed for sale in April of twenty twenty three. As
43:21
Speaker 2: of now here, still in October of twenty twenty four,
43:24
Speaker 2: the beautiful sixteen hundred and forty point four six acre
43:28
Speaker 2: property remains on the market and can be yours if
43:32
Speaker 2: you want to purchase it for the price of nine
43:34
Speaker 2: point three million US dollars.
43:37
Speaker 3: I think that property could be a dollar and I
43:40
Speaker 3: still would be like, hell no.
43:42
Speaker 2: Really really why fairly?
43:45
Speaker 3: Why?
43:46
Speaker 2: I mean why not?
43:47
Speaker 3: Well, look at the shit that these these people are
43:50
Speaker 3: going through living there. Though it's not like it seems
43:52
Speaker 3: like it doesn't seem like it's an enjoyable life.
43:55
Speaker 2: Is there any evidence of it? Yeah, that's what I thought.
44:01
Speaker 2: Many people say that it's you know, it could be
44:04
Speaker 2: a story that's made up potentially to try and earn publicity, attention, money.
44:09
Speaker 2: Who knows.
44:10
Speaker 3: I mean, I know very little about them, but it
44:12
Speaker 3: doesn't necessarily seem like they're those kind of people.
44:15
Speaker 2: They don't seem like it. No, but there are three
44:17
Speaker 2: scenarios here. There is that one that I just mentioned
44:20
Speaker 2: that they made it up for whatever reason. There's a
44:22
Speaker 2: scenario where they're not making it up, but it still
44:24
Speaker 2: doesn't exist. So some people think like sleep paralysis hallucinations
44:29
Speaker 2: and stuff and sleep or whatever. Right, sleep paralysis can
44:32
Speaker 2: do a lot of people. They can't move in bed
44:34
Speaker 2: at night, They report seeing shadowy figures, just like John
44:37
Speaker 2: had expressed, having horrific nightmares, just like John expressed, but
44:42
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't believe their nightmares he thought they were real.
44:45
Speaker 2: Or finally, this all actually fucking happened and there's no
44:51
Speaker 2: proof and the only proof that there was went down
44:56
Speaker 2: with the doctor.
44:58
Speaker 3: And they haven't been able to get that again.
45:00
Speaker 2: Nope.
45:02
Speaker 3: Whoa, This is a case and a half because I
45:07
Speaker 3: don't normally like believe in this sort of thing.
45:10
Speaker 2: Hey, so this is well, do you believe in this
45:13
Speaker 2: one kind of kind of It's hard not to.
45:19
Speaker 3: It is hard not to. Huh, ding dang.
45:26
Speaker 2: We need a shirt that just says ding dang, ding dang,
45:29
Speaker 2: which actually reminds me. We are doing a whole new
45:33
Speaker 2: merch lineup. We are going to release it this Halloween week.
45:36
Speaker 2: We're a little bit behind so in the coming weeks,
45:38
Speaker 2: one or two weeks away, we will have a whole
45:41
Speaker 2: new merch out there. We'll be getting rid of a
45:43
Speaker 2: bunch of merch and then new stuff coming in. So
45:46
Speaker 2: just while I remembered it, So.
45:47
Speaker 3: How can you even function right now? For me to
45:50
Speaker 3: put a sentence together right now is just not happening.
45:52
Speaker 3: My mind is just in a million pieces.
45:55
Speaker 2: I saved this one for Halloween Day on purpose.
45:59
Speaker 3: Well, like people who are maybe like listening to an
46:01
Speaker 3: earbud while they're going trick or treating or something with
46:04
Speaker 3: their kids are just going to be like wrecked if.
46:07
Speaker 2: They see a kid run up in like an alien outfit,
46:10
Speaker 2: like a gray suit or something. Oh, just punch it
46:12
Speaker 2: in the head. Ah, like you know, yeah, not saying
46:15
Speaker 2: like that, you should as a reaction, like you know,
46:18
Speaker 2: just being terrified. Jeez yept don't hit kids.
46:23
Speaker 3: No, this is unreal.
46:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the story of Stardust Ranch. And honestly,
46:29
Speaker 2: you can go deeper into this really well.
46:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the fact like I mean it's been but
46:35
Speaker 3: it's been for sale for quite some time, and I
46:38
Speaker 3: mean do people know people probably know about it. You
46:41
Speaker 3: don't divulge that, right.
46:43
Speaker 2: Oh well, I think, why would you have to divulge anything.
46:47
Speaker 2: I guess divulge what there's no proof of shit?
46:51
Speaker 3: But I thought, if like weird shit's going down or
46:53
Speaker 3: anything weird happened on your property, like you're supposed to
46:57
Speaker 3: divulge that.
46:59
Speaker 2: But there's no I prove. Okay, I've had an alien encounter.
47:03
Speaker 2: Aliens don't exist, I've had a ghostly encounter. Ghost don't exist.
47:06
Speaker 2: Why would you have to divulge that. There's nowhere in
47:10
Speaker 2: any sort of human history that we as far as
47:14
Speaker 2: I'm aware, that's been released to public because who knows
47:16
Speaker 2: government stuff where we acknowledge the existence of ghosts or aliens.
47:24
Speaker 2: I think there was something released earlier this year that
47:26
Speaker 2: said something potentially about extraterrestrials. I don't think that was
47:29
Speaker 2: still confirming technically, I'm gonna assume that's out. But anyways,
47:33
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Now, there have been there's
47:36
Speaker 2: been books written about this place, there's documentaries about this place.
47:39
Speaker 2: There's been ghost hunters that have gone there that actually
47:41
Speaker 2: believe there's there's hauntings involved in the property as well,
47:44
Speaker 2: not just extraterrestrial because I mean, hey, we do have
47:48
Speaker 2: a the previous owners had a kid who passed away in.
47:51
Speaker 3: Rights, right, Yeah, but it's just so sad. This place
47:55
Speaker 3: just like ruined John's dream and like a damn good
47:59
Speaker 3: dream too, you know to no kidding, so animal to
48:02
Speaker 3: have an animal rescue.
48:03
Speaker 2: Is like it's pure.
48:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's just it's just kind of it's frustrating
48:09
Speaker 3: and kind of sad. Yeah too, Like freg, I'm not
48:13
Speaker 3: going to be stopped being able to stop thinking about
48:15
Speaker 3: the ship all day.
48:16
Speaker 2: You're welcome, thanks being on the fucking Halloween Wow. Hopefully
48:23
Speaker 2: you guys are having a good Halloween. Hopefully you guys
48:25
Speaker 2: enjoyed Halloween Week. We certainly did. I'm just a reminder
48:28
Speaker 2: Nicole mentioned at the beginning we will not be coming
48:30
Speaker 2: up with an episode tomorrow, which is Friday. It's the
48:33
Speaker 2: following Tuesday in November where we will be coming out
48:37
Speaker 2: with our next episode. So yeah, I'm just a reminder
48:40
Speaker 2: of that.
48:41
Speaker 3: Well well done this Halloween Week.
48:43
Speaker 2: Thank you. I did good. Couldn't have done it without you?
48:46
Speaker 3: Well, that's debatable.
48:47
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. I'm sorry, No, it's not, that's what
48:50
Speaker 2: I meant to say.
48:51
Speaker 3: I just okay, normally, like I would be doing I
48:53
Speaker 3: would be doing some but I also this is like
48:56
Speaker 3: the busiest time for me, and we're also moving, so
48:58
Speaker 3: it's just like if we weren't like the moving. Just
49:01
Speaker 3: you know.
49:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I understand wholeheartedly.
49:03
Speaker 3: There's only so much a person can do.
49:05
Speaker 2: Okay, next Halloween Week, you'll do it.
49:07
Speaker 3: I will do all of it.
49:09
Speaker 2: Episode next Halloween Week is all Nicole. I'm saying it now.
49:13
Speaker 2: Hell No, I will.
49:15
Speaker 3: Be doing an episode though in November, for sure.
49:18
Speaker 2: Okay, good to hear good, I'm looking forward to that. Well.
49:21
Speaker 2: I think there's only one thing left to do, and
49:24
Speaker 2: that's to bring Jacko in to wrap this all.
49:26
Speaker 3: Up my heart, Yes, so do it.
49:30
Speaker 2: Cheers to Halloween. We yours, Cheers to Halloween. Cheers to
49:33
Speaker 2: you guys for being here. Thank you so much. You're incredible.
49:37
Speaker 2: And uh, Nicole, do you want to bring in Jacko?
49:40
Speaker 3: I don't. It's very sad, but you got to. We must,
49:43
Speaker 3: so come on in, Jacko.
49:46
Speaker 2: It seems like it was only yesterday that we first spoke,
49:51
Speaker 2: yet here we are, in all final moments of the
49:54
Speaker 2: fourth annual event. I do hope you enjoyed each tale
49:58
Speaker 2: and each episode from this Halloween Week. I certainly know
50:03
Speaker 2: that I have. Yet, for some reason, even though we
50:08
Speaker 2: had seven days together, the goodbye almost seems to overshadow
50:13
Speaker 2: it all. But as they say, it's better to have
50:18
Speaker 2: loved and lost than never have loved at all. We
50:23
Speaker 2: here at wicked and grim, appreciate every single one of
50:27
Speaker 2: you for being here. But a new sun must rise,
50:32
Speaker 2: and as surely as it will when all Hallow's Eve
50:34
Speaker 2: has passed, so will we return once again next year
50:40
Speaker 2: for another Halloween Week. Ladies, gentlemen, Theays and M's. It
50:49
Speaker 2: has been my absolute pleasure to be your guide through
50:52
Speaker 2: this all. So until we meet again, I leave you
50:57
Speaker 2: with these final words, stay wicked,