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BIOL 400: Mastering Wolfpack Mentality · Boundary Corner Podcast

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Welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast along with my
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partner. Brian, Sigler, I am Curtis
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Wilson big guy. How are you doing tonight?
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Doing good, buddy, doing good. Got the NFL game on here,
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looking at some Lakers. Well, got a little Brew.
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How about you, man? I don't have the NFL game,
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although you informed me, a little while ago, my tight end.
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Like just said, he scored a touchdown.
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I appreciate that. Got the college game on over
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here. The real battle for Alabama,
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South Alabama, you a be watching your money as well.
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Got a nine-point lead with six minutes left in the second half.
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It's it is approximately 950 won.
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Thursday night. And as of right now, as we
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pressed record, the Hokies are playing this week.
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The Hokies game has not been moved.
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Ladies and gentlemen, we are less than 48 hours from kickoff
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fingers crossed bangs 12 men and I tell you so much of the stuff
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we've seen this week coming out. You know if you noticed voice of
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the Hokies John laser-like he officially Stalked, the
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broadcast Booth with snacks and it's kind of like oh a second.
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Okay, this guys getting ready to be sitting in a booth for close
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to six hours, got to have some food and then have you been
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keeping up with Trey Turner in the countdown?
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Oh yes, oh yes. I was sad when it started over
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last week, but it's nice to see. We've, we've gotten below five
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this week, so we're down to two. Let's keep it moving.
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We'll see one tomorrow and hopefully, we'll know new
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information will come out. That'll change course.
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So let's play some hopeful, but I feel like we're we're as close
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to it as we can get at this point.
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I feel like barring a huge unforeseen circumstance that
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puts us out of the compliance for the ACC protocols.
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We're rolling with what we have and then it's been cool like
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seeing the pictures of the field.
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Up. And then the day that pick the,
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the full-on view of Lane, which was absolutely beautiful.
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It looks ready to be played and then tonight, did you see the
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Jersey reveal? I haven't caught that yet.
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I know you said you caught that. What was that?
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Like, very nice. Some basic, you know, nothing
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special, just your maroon top with the stripes white pants.
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No special. Divine Diablo was modeling in
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the 25, which I'm hoping that A good sign, maybe he's playing
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Saturday, the tainted this week, if they, if they put a video of
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him, maybe that was shot this week.
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And if that was shot this week, that makes me feel good about
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him being a go. Speaking of 25 looks like good
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old Jr. Walker is going to be wearing
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25, ABS the game on Saturday. Absolutely, the redshirt
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freshman man. Who pretty big commit?
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When he came last year we're in the 25 sep.
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As a lot, he was the backup nickel.
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I don't know if he's going to be the backup nickel.
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I think he might be playing somewhere else.
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I think the depth charge kind of.
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Yeah, my opinion right now. I'm not sure what to think about
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the depth chart. I mean, we I think we've got
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some confirmed guys at this point, but there are probably
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about four or five spots on both sides of the ball that are still
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kind of kind of question marks as far as who's going to be the
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guy, that's lace them up for the, for the start.
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Game at least one guy who's definitely are?
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You got backs? Yeah.
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What's up? I got code this.
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So yeah, he's got three months of.
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Not even have to worry about contact, tracing not have to
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worry about taking tests, so he's good for three months.
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So I'm sure that makes him, you know, I'm sure he wasn't
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pleasant having it if he had the symptoms.
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But if at this point I'm sure he's glad That portion of it is
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behind him for now and he can kind of move forward on that.
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Yeah I mean talking about the Jersey reveal man are you are
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you still a fan of the stripe? Or we know it's you know boys
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things where maybe it's just what the age group we came up on
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Home games should be all Maroon. All Maroon dark shoes it's one
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of those things where the years we went some of the best years
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it was it was all Maroon everything and it was
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intimidating because, you know, a Saturday night and if you come
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out at all Maroon and it's dark, it's kind of like if I want to
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go play those guys over there. So, you know, it is what it is.
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I wish they would just turn it back a little bit, but that's
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not the era we live in. And now Bryan something you just
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popped me a few minutes before Diablo fan accounts.
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Trailer heavy-ass so opens with the Harry Potter cut, then it
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goes into the Space Jam, Space Jam.
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It's it's hilarious. The prior video, it's just sound
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effects in, like, some of the Poppins were pretty funny as
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well. The Random Oregon softball
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player. I'm still, let's still try to
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figure out that one man. Oh, she was trending for a lot
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of like the tick tocks and stuff.
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She was doing earlier, so I guess he was like, all right, so
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she's kind of virally famous. Let's throw in there.
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Think, I think she threw like or retweet on it.
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So that's kind of a little bit. She put a she did a quote
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retweet on it and that way, Diablo's a cow Because this was
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like a couple hours ago, like after we ate dinner, I was
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looking at my phone for a second making, some last-second notes
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for the pot tonight and I'm like, why don't you retweet this
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so hilarious to see that? And now this was last week, but
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go from the comedic to the Cinematic.
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The sons of Saturday trailer, pretty epic.
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Pretty epic. You say drop the The Dark Knight
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Rises. Monologue in the background
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there and some of the score for that movie, along with a lot of
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really good footage. Yeah, well, Tom cuts and I mean,
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it was, it was really tight. It was really tight and got me
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in Bryan's brain rolling over here, not this year obviously,
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but me and Brian are sitting here after we see the sons of
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Saturday trailer texting back and forth about 20 minutes this
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when we could do this. So basically we're already
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spoiled, we're already writing our trailers.
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Up for next year. I got to polish up my skills on
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Premiere before we start. Start dropping trailers.
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Here is something we got 11 months, you got 11 months so we
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can work on. We assume we can work on other
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news, came out, just not too long ago.
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Pac-12 is returning. Yes.
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Because after dark pact with actors daylight savings time is
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already hit because they're not going back until November
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November 6th. They're going to play seven
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games and if you look at the Pac-12, they are 14.
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So it looks like they're going to probably play their own
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Division and then do have the championship game of the two
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division winners and then everybody else play each other.
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To get that seventh game, but one other thing that came out,
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Brian We're going to extend the bowl streak this year.
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Hey, everybody gets to go to a bowl.
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Everybody's in with everybody, which I think is the right thing
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to do, you know, because of this crazy year and if you have fewer
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games, you get so many unforeseen circumstances and
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different conferences playing different number of games.
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I mean, it just really throws off.
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Yeah, Competitive balance, about who, you know, even if you like
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for the most part, I mean the the kind of thing we were going
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with is, you know, 50% of your schedule could get you into a
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bowl. So you know it does that mean
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you know, four wins for the Pac-12?
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Does that mean five wins for the ACC?
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I mean, what does that mean? So it's good that they at least
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took that kind of jostling out of out of play there because I
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think that was gonna be a clown show if it came down to that,
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That quails took an easy initiative.
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Everybody can go to all this year because there's I'm gonna
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be enough teams. Probably.
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They said, like the Bulls could start as early as December 1st,
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but pretty much every conference is playing at least into the
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first week of December. So I'm not sure what that's
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going to look like, they don't know.
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They're just they're lost in the ncaa's lost.
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So yeah man. See that might apply to some of
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the G5 schools because I don't their conference games wrap up a
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little little bit earlier or maybe a couple of them get
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thrown in there and stuff. So either way, it's kind of of a
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good decision to make and feeling like this weekend, Brian
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to, with the SEC beginning and it feels like he is weak and you
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kind of look through the schedule this week is, we were
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deciding, you know, we make pics.
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We're going to make some out of conference picks.
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It's just fun to do, but it feels like this is your first
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big. We can you have a couple big top
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25 matchups. You've got quite a few top, 20
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teams who were not playing garbage, teams are playing.
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I actually good competition. So height Height.
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Unfortunately, I want to probably miss some of the 12.
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I got 12 baseball practice with the Sun, so and I'm coaching
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again. So hey, coach Wilson.
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How you doing, buddy? Thanks Wilson.
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You know, it's good. It's a lot of fun to get kids
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out there playing baseball but so I'm going to be missing some
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games here and there periodically.
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Hopefully no hokey games but we'll see.
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Hi, Brian. Let's go man.
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We got to know our enemy. Me this week, can you take
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place? The NC State Wolfpack, the wolf
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pack, ER, 1 and 0 after a win over the Wake, Forest Demon
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Deacons in a game that me, and you kind of hit on Lil Bit.
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That game reminded me of a big 12 game, not a typical ACC game.
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Yeah, it looked like a big 12 game.
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They were back and forth, you know, early on, it was back and
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forth in like, kind of in the middle.
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There were run by NC State and Run by Wake Forest to close the
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gap and then, you know, kind of closed another back and forth
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there. So, yeah, definitely, I didn't
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necessarily see that coming but neither did Vegas, maybe not
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never under coming. They, they did get the liner.
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I got to that is a game. You beat me heads-up, on that.
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We went, we went off against about two and a half I literally
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lost about half Point. You Want It by half a point so
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they had that figured out They pick the teams to be very
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similar but they were like most 55 was the over crab, boat
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things that was kind of funny to see that.
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So we're going to do this, we're going to start today.
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We're going to start with the NC State offense reactions, some
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things scats. We looked at Brian looked at
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some of the tape, just to give you guys a quick break down and
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buy all start out here with the NC State quarterback, Bailey
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Hockman, the Juco transfer, you know, good.
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On 16 423 191 yards. One touchdown, one interception,
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the interception was a pick six thirty yards rushing with the
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long 14 on a to temps also rushed for a touchdown.
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A couple things I noticed just watching the game Saturday
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night. It seems like in the first half
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he couldn't miss in going back, doing the research and looking
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yet he started 11 for 11 which is pretty damn good.
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But he did finish. 5 of 12, including that interception.
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And that was kind of from the late second quarter on through
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the end of the game. Now, I know you got some stuff
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you want to tell them but I'm not just a couple more things
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about there and I'm going to turn it over to you.
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Braun over 16 completions seven. Were to is running backs.
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It seems like you're borderline half of your throws were checked
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downs. And then another thing, if you
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take the kind of a couple of the big plays, His average per
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attempt goes from eight point eight, which is a really good
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number down to six point eight, which is right at that average
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to maybe slightly below average, right?
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The first thing I'll ask you is what's the big difference?
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You saw between the beginning, where it just, he was on fire
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and then the second half he's throwing under 50%.
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He throws a Pick 6, he doesn't seem like something had happened
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and you know by the end of the second quarter, So two things
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happened. Number one, they threw fewer
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screens in the second half. So he wasn't getting some of
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those easy completions to the running bags, like you were
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talking about. The second thing that happened
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is that wake did had a little adjustments at halftime and
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while they were still able to rush the ball, well, against
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waking the second half, they were taking away.
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A lot of those big chunk plays that you saw in the first half
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in the running game and so that limited what they could do in
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the play action game. The thing I noticed about
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Hoffman is that When he was trying to get the ball to his
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wide receivers a lot of those times went to a tight end or
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wide receiver. It was coming off of that play
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action and they were doing a pretty good job, working the
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ball between the numbers and they were doing, and they were
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getting the ball between the numbers on that play action, a
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couple different ways. Sometimes they'd send either the
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tight end, HVAC or wingback. If it's like a running back,
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they would send them up the seam, but occasionally, they'd
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send either a slot or a, or a wide receiver.
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Unlike a dig behind the linebacker, so they would use
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the play action to keep the linebackers in the box and then
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throw over the top Hockman. Did take off a couple times but
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he's not a guy that's gonna hurt you with his legs.
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He's not a run first guy, they're not going to design a
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lot of plays where he is the primary Runner.
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He's going to be a guy. That's just gonna Play.
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But breaks down, he can get your first down.
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He's got a little Twitch. In terms of athletic ability,
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reminds me a lot of Ryan, Willis kind of in that same vein.
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Not, not an athlete, not a guy, you really want to be carrying
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the ball but he's got enough twitch to get you a first down
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when you need it. But again he was really
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dependent on the play action to get those things going outside
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of getting the ball to his running backs.
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He had a couple really good throws down the sideline though.
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That shows he's got the arm to make make those throws.
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But I think he's still working on his timing.
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And that was evident when you looked at that pick six, he was
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late throwing the the out and it just got taken to the house.
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And now unfortunately for us he's got that game under his
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belt. Obviously opinions to go back,
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clean up the mistakes, you know, work with your receiver, some
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more and practice. So that's one of those things
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that you know, for us it's thinks it's desire first game
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we're going to be right out where they've got that game too.
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Got some tape. Yeah, that's helped us in some
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ways but it's going to hurt us and others.
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So normal it's let's go to the Run game.
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What did you see from what they were doing with their backs and
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the offensive line? So the big thing that they like
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to do is they like to with their running game, they have are
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aiming Point that's off tackle and then a lot of cut back Lanes
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so whether it's inside or outside Zone, they were doing a
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good job of Of cutting on the on the backside of the play to
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widen the cutback, angles for the running back.
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The big thing I saw is that so if you're running left, you got
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your garden tackle in the back side, they're cutting their men.
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So now you've got two defensive linemen that are stagnant.
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And now with the Zone side, you've got a widening of the
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Gap, so there's a cutback lane but if the Amy if the angle that
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they're going for is they're they're taking that getting up
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field but it also because of that wide cut, Back Lane.
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If the linebackers aren't disciplined and they or they get
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blocked. There's also a big Ali up the
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middle. All right.
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So what I'm hearing is what they're trying to do is they're
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essentially making you, we need to set the edge, we need to set
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the edge where we want them to flow back in especially with our
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linebackers, you know, regardless it.
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Because if we're setting that edge where they can't get around
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and they're having to do the big hump.
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Probably bad things happen, right?
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And yeah, what we need to move the line of scrimmage, I think
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in get penetration because right now they were pretty much.
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Every time I saw them run the ball, they were getting to their
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aiming point. And once you're there, you have
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options depending on how how the offensive line is able to block
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it. But it, because if you're
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getting two, you're aiming point, you can cut back, you can
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stay in the alley everything that you want to do, with the
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play design is still open to you.
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If you get penetration, you make that running back.
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Of the hump. Now they're forced into going
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outside, got it. Did you see?
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Okay, this is scouting. Another opponent is Wake Forest
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good on the defensive line or just what you seen in.
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And I'm not saying talent-wise, but technique while it's because
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it is wait for us, they aren't good technique wise during a lot
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of 4 star 5 Star guys on Wake Forest is line.
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Now, I'd say they're, they're very average.
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They had some plays where they disrupted, and then they had a
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lot of plays where they were very dependent on their
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linebackers making making the place of the linebackers got
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blocked. They were in trouble.
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Like I said, that that starts with not being able to get
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penetration because you've this outside Zone that they ran a
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lot. They run a lot of outside Zone.
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They ran a couple plays. So one that I saw film a couple
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times They did a pin and pull sweet.
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So place, I'd pins. You got to two guys, pulling
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around the edge to lead on The Suite so that that can create
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some problems there. Because with the pin, you
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usually can stop the penetration and it's all up, you know,
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whether your league guys can get out there or not, but they also
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did like a couple times I saw. I think it was Houston lined up
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in the wing of the kind of the wing H area, and then they would
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put him in motion for a shovel pass.
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On the sweep to get outside and neither of neither time, they
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ran that play. Was there any penetration where
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he had to run the hump? So he was getting to the edge
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getting in the alley and then like I said, even if you got
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guys out there, he's got options at that point because he's
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already hit his aiming Point Brian.
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Just kind of looking at it. What you're saying, you know, it
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reflects in the numbers to me, they didn't have anybody go over
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100 yards. I mean, but they had two guys at
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the doorstep. Aw, Ricky person jr.
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Had 99 is a Zone oven. My head 97 both to highly rated
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guys. Person was a, you know, a top 50
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player for star running back out of high school.
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My it was another four-star guy. So to very, you know, highly
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talented running backs, there they were and about 49 times,
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you know, kind of tells you, you kind of take that look at that
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differential. I mean more than two to one
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passing and they Five and a half per carry, even adjusting taking
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long runs out, which is what I do.
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That's just me there. Still were at four and a half
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person, but when you look at the to pass who got the bulk of
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those yards person and might combine 45.8 carry.
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That's good. That's really good.
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They were, they were getting chunks.
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Just watching the tape. They were getting chunks,
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especially in the first half. A better job in the second half
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of limiting. The big runs, but they Still
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productive on most of their carries.
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And I think that's something that we're going to need to slow
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down. We need to make them, not only
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like I said, penetration is going to limit some of their
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options, but if we're letting them get five or six yards,
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every care, even if we take away the big plays, that's still
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going to be a problem. Well, that's that's your, it's
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not the, the death by one by one slice.
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It's a death by a Thousand Cuts. Its yeah, a little.
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So, you know, No. Clearly in the 5.8 brine was
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taken out there too long runs. So not even that's there.
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Like I said that's why it's going to be weird to have to be
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on our point. You know stopping that run
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because it that everything they do is predicated on getting a
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good good run on first and second down.
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Do you guys play action opens up and the the short passing game
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with the screens and the flare out to the running back.
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Open up, do you think Do you think we're going to load the
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Box? Do you think we're going to say
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we're dropping Divine 10 yards off whoever's paying Rover,
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boundary safety right on the line of scrimmage.
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With this goal of, we're going to fill your gaps are ends are
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going to set the edge. Our guys are going to be in all
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the right gaps where, if you're going to beat us, you're going
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to, you're going to screw as you can throw this ball first
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because I think about this and I know Justin Hamilton is not bad.
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Foster Tim Beck who is their offensive coordinator comes from
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the Urban Meyer School in the stuff you're talking about.
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You go back to stuff, Urban likes to do.
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We saw what? Stop that back in W.
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It Smash Mouth spread type philosophy Is Here.
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Yeah so but we know running, you know, maybe odd fronts, blown
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the box and saying listen you're not going to beat us as if you
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beat us this way. You're really going to be
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grinding hard to beat us. You're going to have to throw
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the ball downfield and Right now, from what we're seeing,
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he's got the arm to do it but he did not prove it against white
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force and his second game came. Bailey Hockman, do that.
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What we need to do is make them pay for trying to run those
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outside zones and aiming for that off tackle.
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Because wake didn't do that consistently enough.
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They kept going back to it. We need to make them pay with
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three and four yard loss has consistently.
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If they're going to keep trying to go outside on us what can we
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do to do that other than mean, is it?
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Is it something where you're like?
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Running running the Chamorro kind of Blitz when they're I
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mean I think you can do some run blitzes to the to the strong
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side. I think you can you can do some
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other things to essentially press the edge where you think
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they're going with the football and make them have to either.
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Make that cut sooner or run the hump.
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Okay. Got it.
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I mean because the way the ride receivers and tight ends look,
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you know, you know, I already told you he threw seven balls,
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two running backs, he only had nine to his tight end or wide
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receivers, you know, that's again, not a lot.
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His top receiver had to receptions for 45 yards.
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That's the tight end. Carry Angeline is a USC transfer
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from Southern Cal, he's a big guy, 67.
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Pretty high rate of guy when he came out, but when you start
24:51
taking a Look at nobody had no water Stever had more than two
24:56
catches what you're saying? Is in kind of what we're
25:01
predicating is, if we're going to win this game.
25:05
We're going to make him throw or attempt to throw more than two
25:10
times to anyone ride receiver. And we need to make sure that
25:15
we've got our guys that have a man responsibility on these
25:19
plays to not have their eyes in the backfield on the play
25:24
action. Because that's really the thing
25:27
that in the passing game. That that really hurt wake.
25:31
They weren't scary. If they were just dropping back
25:34
in a three or five step drop and slinging it.
25:36
Yeah. Occasionally if they're running
25:38
backs broke a tackle or got in space.
25:40
There's a problem. But They weren't just lining up
25:44
and throwing the ball down field and getting chunk plays that
25:47
way. That wasn't what they were
25:48
doing. Every chunk play they got in the
25:51
passing game. Pretty much came off of play
25:53
action either up the seam or on a on a dig behind the
25:57
linebackers that it kind of got sucked in on the play action.
26:01
I will I do want to give a shout out because I'm an offensive
26:04
lineman. So I want to do this.
26:06
Ekam equiano left guard for NC State.
26:11
Keep your eye on him. He's a guy that I saw out there
26:16
like motor for days and was like slinging people around a few
26:20
times. So he's got to keep an eye on
26:23
and he wasn't, he wasn't a liability and past Pro either.
26:27
I think he's a freshman I think is what I saw.
26:31
So yeah, he's a guy that is going to be someone.
26:33
You want to keep an eye on for the next few years because he
26:37
popped out on film. And again, he's got a few years
26:41
left in the tank there before. Or he's done that in Sea state.
26:45
So keep an eye on him as a key offensive lineman for that unit.
26:51
You know that rhyme. All right well let's slip from
26:54
the NC State offense to the NC State Defense.
26:59
We're looking at its Tony Gibson.
27:01
Tony Gibson runs a 335 stack. This isn't the first time that
27:05
the Hokies have seen Tony Gibson, or his stack defense
27:10
back in 2017 battle for the Black Diamond trophy against
27:14
West Virginia. He was the defensive coordinator
27:18
for that team. Hokies put up Points for 60
27:21
yards of offense on him to 2:30 2:30 brush.
27:26
So, very balanced game, but still I look at the statistics
27:31
from Saturday night against wait.
27:32
Brian. They had six sacks.
27:35
That's, that's a lot in any game pick.
27:37
You told me. We're have six sacks on
27:39
Saturday. I'd love it.
27:41
If you have 12 tackles for losses, you telling me 18 plays
27:45
of usually college football, team runs, you know, right
27:47
around most on the average about 70 plays a game.
27:51
No, that's a quarter of your plays where they're getting
27:53
negative yards. Did, you know, they also
27:59
recovered a fumble, but they still gave up 39 points, which
28:04
is, which is a lot because I'm even take.
28:08
Excuse me. Not 39 point.
28:10
They gave yeah me too. Yeah, 36 points.
28:13
Excuse me, I can't do that today.
28:16
But Brian, when we look at the 33 stack, what what's, what's
28:20
that? We're going to look for as we're
28:23
watching the game that. Okay, they're doing this good.
28:26
This, this is not good for us or they're doing this bad, and this
28:30
is good for us. So, what they like to do is
28:35
pretty much kind of a, they're either bringing the house or
28:39
they're dropping pretty much everybody.
28:43
There's not a whole lot of in between for them, especially on
28:47
passing Downs, which explains why they end up getting a lot of
28:51
sex. So they're either bringing six
28:52
or bringing three or four. Okay, and they do it sometimes
28:58
from multiple layers of the defense, sometimes it's just
29:02
there. Bringing those three linemen and
29:04
three inside linebackers. It really depends on what
29:07
they're trying to do, but that's what they like to do, is they
29:10
bring lit, sometimes it's a little bit of a delay, okay,
29:14
from the linebackers, so you kind of get the linemen
29:16
committed and then, sometimes that opens up those pass rush
29:19
lanes for the linebackers to sneak in.
29:22
They do some other things with the strong side and weak side
29:27
safety. So that's essentially the, you
29:30
got a free safe to your corners and then you've got a strong and
29:32
weak side safety and the the 335 they'll bring them off.
29:38
The edge is kind of like a fourth rusher in like a Zone,
29:41
Blitz scheme and so sometimes you had a completely free
29:45
Blitzer. Coming off the edge that know
29:46
Lyman was really accounting for. All right, things a lot of the,
29:50
a lot of the sacks and And okay, so with the tackles for loss,
29:54
I'm going to Tribute to that, you know, Wake Forest, slow
29:58
mesh. That it's either really good.
30:01
If the linemen get to the different levels, they need to,
30:03
but it can be a five-yard loss. Because the ball barely gets
30:06
into the running backs hands before someone's in the
30:08
backfield all them, right? Yeah, it's true.
30:11
It's very true. Let me ask this bright.
30:12
When you look at it especially with their drops, you know,
30:17
there's the rumor Mills going crazy, whether it be hidden
30:20
hooker Braxton. In see.
30:22
Are there drops deep enough on those blitzes, where they don't
30:25
get home? Are they going to have space?
30:27
Let's say it's Hendon and he's going back.
30:30
It's a six-man Blitz but we pick it up.
30:31
He called protection right. You know big Chris and aerosol
30:35
lid, took this guy out, you know, Nick gal data and block
30:39
the other guy and he's got it got it covered good.
30:42
Is he going to have a run Lane to where we can get
30:44
significantly positive yards when they can't get home?
30:49
Yeah, things will open up. They they are bringing the
30:53
linebackers through different gaps and they're bringing them
30:55
off the edge or not. It's not just all kind of, it's
30:58
not all of a pinch move, it's not all coming from the edge,
31:01
they really mix-and-match. So there's going to be probably
31:04
a lane in there, some cases, even when they bring five and
31:07
six and I think with the way they're going when they bring
31:13
those blitzes, they're either going 0 or cover one across the
31:17
Board there. So, that's going to open up some
31:19
opportunities. For our guys, to get either a
31:21
hot route or something in there where they can get the ball, and
31:25
then maybe make a guy Miss and get a big play there since
31:27
they're all in man coverage. I like, I mean Sam Hartman's a
31:30
good ACC quarterback, but he is not near the athlete.
31:33
That the three guys we have at quarterback are, and that makes
31:36
me feel good about that, something else that still
31:40
concern me brown. But you, but it might have just
31:42
been wakes offense now that you mention it.
31:45
Wake only averaged three yards, a carry is a team.
31:48
That's that's terrible. Even if you took out Hartman's -
31:52
yard the Saget's in the titles were also on him, they still
31:55
only average 4.25. Again, that's that's just,
31:58
that's not good. They did have a lead running
32:00
back get over 130 yard, Kenneth Walker, did 131 yards.
32:04
He averaged about four point nine per carry, which is okay,
32:08
right at that fight with me and you talk about is kind of being
32:11
the thing. But You know, you talk about
32:14
them. Blitzing, you talk about them
32:16
dropping coverage. Like what you're telling me is
32:22
there's going to be some opportunities to probably create
32:24
a good running game against what they do because if they're
32:29
dropping a bunch back and you're running some zones or, you know,
32:32
options, even the the Jet Sweep going to be space there whether
32:39
they're dropping a ton of guys or if they're blind.
32:44
Yeah, I think we're going to end up doing is probably shifting
32:50
our friends, a little bit on occasion, just to kind of throw
32:52
off what they're doing in for their alignment and try to work
32:56
to outflank them pre-snap. So I'm looking for us to try to
33:01
do that a little bit mess with how they're aligning.
33:04
Those, there's strong side of weak side safeties.
33:08
Because those are the guys that are could potentially disrupt
33:11
any sort of outside of run or Jeff sweet.
33:13
They'll fly up field and get the penetration.
33:16
So if we can keep them guessing, they'll have to play a little
33:20
bit further off the line of scrimmage and give us an
33:22
opportunity to get to our blocks on them to to get to that edge
33:26
on the Jet Sweep or some of our Zone plays that we have yeah
33:30
because if we essentially choose the wrong side, there's going to
33:33
be no one there and there's opportunity for our, you know,
33:37
guys like Gallo or James Mitchell or you know, the Lyman
33:40
to get up field in to get to those safeties and I'm Sure you
33:43
as an offensive lineman I'm sure they were places where you love.
33:46
Like I'll get to get up field and find a 180-pound safety.
33:49
Yes, let me let me have so I can make him not like life of the
33:52
next 20 seconds and I'll say this too.
33:55
With the with the three stack. I think we're going to have some
33:57
success running the ball up the up, the middle of the defense.
34:01
Okay. Just because with the three-man
34:04
front and with the experience that I think our interior line
34:08
is going to have we should be able to at least get get our guy
34:12
up in Gap and then be able to navigate, hopefully break a
34:16
tackle, and make make a big run out of it up.
34:18
The middle one other stat, I hit you with earlier today was NC
34:24
State, only had four points, two of those four pumps were
34:27
overturned and the average was 19 yards, a punt along of 26.
34:32
And then obviously, another one of 12 to make that average come
34:35
up. And then I'm sitting here
34:36
thinking about Tavian Robinson, Rahim quite a number of guys.
34:43
What did you think? When you said you're going to
34:44
try to find those obviously the guy he keep those balls and deep
34:50
because I told you, what was it, the 13 was at the 15.
34:54
What is it is their coverage issues there?
34:56
Is it one of those, where we have a guy who doesn't know how
35:00
to kick into the coverage to where his guys were getting
35:03
there? Because this is, this is one of
35:05
those things where we could flip the field.
35:07
Even if we go three and out as good as Oscar is, we can flip
35:10
the field and pin them the yes. The thing I saw on the only had
35:16
what, four, punts for pain. Yes.
35:18
So he had to, that weren't essentially from the 50-yard
35:22
line or inside, where you were trying to pin a guy deep.
35:26
So to punt, City actually put a full leg into it.
35:30
And looking at those on tape, looks like he's a guy that
35:34
doesn't get a ton of Hang Time on that full foot punt.
35:37
Okay, so there was the returner has a decent amount of time to
35:43
You know, get control of the ball.
35:45
See where the blocks are setting up and then go from there.
35:48
Okay so you call it out, kick your coverage, whatever you want
35:52
to do, just not a lot of Hang Time, giving that coverage team
35:56
an opportunity to get down there and surround the returner before
35:58
he's able to kind of pinpoint where he wants to go with the
36:01
with the ball because I see that again, I hear that.
36:06
And I think about some of our guys were turning the punts.
36:11
He does that to us, he Could be not only us flipping the field a
36:15
lot but maybe a house called by somebody.
36:18
All right, Brian, let's get to our predictions here man.
36:22
Because usually we're going to go to the Hokey pivotal players
36:26
next, then our predictions right on me.
36:29
And you kind of talked about it for our defense, obviously, I
36:34
think me and you feel probably the most important group this
36:37
week are the linebackers. Yeah, linebackers are going to
36:42
be pivotal this week. Week making sure that they get
36:44
in the right Gap that they're controlling their Gap that
36:48
they're not over running the outside Zone where you have
36:53
those cut back lanes because if you do overrun those, there's
36:57
going to be a lot of feel therefore that running back to
37:00
do some damage. So that's going to be the key to
37:03
making sure that we have good Pursuit that we got one
37:07
linebacker playing kind of just inside the running back, so he
37:12
doesn't have those. Cut back Lanes.
37:13
So hopefully they show discipline.
37:17
But also don't have a problem with getting out there and
37:20
disrupting some of what they're trying to do, especially when
37:22
they get like a blitz call too. Take those aiming points away
37:27
from the running back so they don't really have those as many
37:30
options to make a play. Yeah.
37:33
Now, and folks this week, just because of all the chaos, we're
37:37
not doing specific players because we don't know who's
37:42
going to be on the field hopefully next week, we can
37:44
truly have pivot. The players not typical player
37:47
groups the other one Brian. Just because we're we lost a
37:52
really good player there. The safety group.
37:55
I do consider Shamari kind of part of that group.
38:00
I feel like that's our other really pivotal, you know, group
38:03
of players, a were younger there, you know, especially
38:06
with, if you want to Jenkins is the starter.
38:09
I still think it's going to be Jr.
38:10
Walker. I'm just saying, I just just
38:13
feel that way because I feel like Jamari the more you talk
38:17
about that outside Zone, some of that responsibility for him to
38:21
set the edge and get there and make that hump that's going to
38:24
be on him. And tomorrow is that sort of
38:27
guy, because if it's an outside Zone And Brian you, this is when
38:30
you blow up an outside Zone, you know this if he gets there and
38:33
not only sets The Edge but gets further up field and our
38:37
linebackers stay in those Lanes. What happens again, you're going
38:42
to get some tackles for loss there.
38:44
That's what I say. You got to get, we need to make
38:46
them pay for those outside. Runs we need to get there and if
38:51
our linebackers is you just said, or staying sound.
38:54
Staying disciplined. Yep, you can cut it back up
38:56
here. You're getting the yard run.
38:58
You're getting a 2-yard run. Because they're right there to
39:00
meet you in either, you're going to have to Shimmy Shake which
39:04
regardless who are linebackers are.
39:06
I don't care if it's Brooke Dax tis, or artist.
39:11
Those guys. All have significant playing
39:13
experience, you're not going to do too much and they're all very
39:17
good tacklers. Yeah.
39:18
So I like that. Anything else on the safeties?
39:21
Maybe I missed. I know when we talked about it,
39:24
you felt like that was the second group of important again.
39:27
Yeah, I mean it's twofold, you know?
39:29
You talk about the youth and you talked about how they need to
39:32
fit up in the running game. So I think having the safeties
39:37
play well is going to determine one of those determining factors
39:40
of whether we do well stopping their run because I'm as much as
39:45
the linebackers need to be key in this, the safeties are going
39:49
to have to come up and make those opportunities especially
39:51
when they when you know, for whatever reason, we're not
39:54
getting to those. Those points in the they do get
39:58
to the edge. They need to be ready to fill.
40:01
Ready to make some tackles ready to make some tackles on the
40:03
cutback. If you're the safety away from
40:06
the where the balls going, so it's going to be important for
40:10
them to have a good game, especially if we're rolling out
40:13
a true freshman at one of those starting positions.
40:16
Yeah, which that's what the depth chart told us a little bit
40:19
earlier this week. All right, on the offensive
40:22
side, Braun. This isn't we didn't specific on
40:27
one, any group, but just some things.
40:29
Again, you saw what you're talking about that through.
40:31
We feel out the Run games important.
40:36
What do you feel? Is it?
40:38
Is it line? Is it?
40:39
Or is it Line running back sweet?
40:41
Or is it a combination of everything?
40:43
It's really the combination of everything.
40:45
Obviously, we need good offensive line, play across the
40:47
board. So, I mean, that's, it's not a
40:50
pivotal group that we have on here, but because we're talking
40:52
about Run game being emphasis. It's of the success.
40:56
We got to talk about the offensive line because that's
40:57
where it starts outside of that. You know, we're going to have
41:01
some opportunities for our running backs, to make some
41:04
plays because of their feast or famine ability to, if they're,
41:10
if they're bringing the house and they don't guess, right.
41:13
We can hit a home run on them. So I'm looking forward to seeing
41:17
what those running backs can do. I'm looking forward to, I'm
41:20
going to say a name, we don't know if he's going to be a
41:24
Table. We do know he's officially
41:26
cleared by the NCAA now but Blackshear will play a big role
41:29
in the offensive game plan this week if he is available to play.
41:34
So I hope that the first touchdown we have is a
41:38
Blackshear touchdown off the screen or something fun like
41:41
that. Because you know, your boy here
41:43
like screens, I know I know Hokie Nation doesn't always like
41:46
screens because we sometimes run them in inopportune moments.
41:50
But when it's called right? And it's executed, right, a
41:52
screen is a thing of beauty. You ladies and gentlemen and
41:56
honestly God is Man. Alright, last of our pivotal
41:59
players here pivotal player position, it's the quarterback
42:02
position and it's for the reason of.
42:06
We don't know who the quarterback is going to be
42:09
Saturday. And I know people are like,
42:10
well, hendon's the one while they put him as one on the depth
42:13
and the name and starter and we just don't know.
42:16
And if it's if it's hidden, when we roll out there Saturday I
42:21
think some of our I think some of our feelings will feel more
42:25
Comfort henin was six and two last year could have easily been
42:31
a tan oh but you know whether it be Braxton or Quincy, some we
42:36
talked about you know all this offseason is the death.
42:39
We know those guys have played at the D1 level.
42:41
It's been a while for Braxton. You know, we've seen Quinn seen
42:45
some situations. But it's it's it's truly one of
42:50
those things that first snap Saturday night a little after
42:56
8:00 whether me and you were going to be, you know, on Skype
43:03
while we're doing watching the game or whether we're going to
43:04
be texting. It's going to say a lot.
43:07
Yep. And, you know, we talked about
43:10
the quarterback is the key positions.
43:12
The key thing to me is going to be not turning the ball over.
43:17
Cuz I feel like we're going to be able to move the ball against
43:21
this defense. But regardless the quarterback,
43:24
regardless of quarterback, we're going to be able to move this
43:26
ball against this defense. What will potentially hamper?
43:32
That is turnover. So what we can't do is put the
43:36
ball in the turf. We can't throw interceptions.
43:40
I'm hoping that whoever is playing at quarterback when they
43:42
bring those six-man pressures. We're smart with the throw.
43:48
We don't just sling it to the guy that we're comfortable with.
43:52
We try to find the right target or find the hot route for that
43:56
particular play and get the ball there.
43:59
Instead of just Chuck it on a wing and a prayer there and you
44:02
hope something good happens. Let's be smart with the
44:05
football. Let's not turn it over and I
44:07
think if we can do that, there's going to be opportunities to hit
44:10
some big plays on this defense and really put up some points.
44:14
So I'm expecting some I'm hoping that rust doesn't that
44:19
interceptions and turnovers. Don't come along with that rust.
44:23
That will put us in a bad spot. Alright, Braun.
44:27
Now, let's get to our predictions and these are folks
44:33
found when you read a rundown wrong Brawn, I'm Gonna Let You
44:37
Go first, unless you want me to go.
44:39
We're going to play Paper. I paper rock scissors to decide
44:43
who goes first, you know, if I'll go first, I don't mind
44:46
going first here. What would what do you know, who
44:52
was? I'd say I like us by at least
44:55
two touchdowns. Okay, not knowing who's going to
44:59
be suiting up for us. I still like us.
45:03
Okay, I think it's probably going to be one of those one
45:09
touchdown games. We might need a score late to
45:12
kind of put it a little bit Out Of Reach so I'm going to say
45:16
something like give me 30 124 124, all right.
45:23
Um yeah if I knew who was playing or if we were full 100%.
45:28
I'm with you I 14 maybe even 21. Point.
45:33
I think our, I think our team was that built for this year but
45:37
with all the questions and we don't know who the quarterback
45:40
is, we don't know who's healthy on the offensive line, we don't
45:42
know who's healthy on the defense.
45:48
He's one of those things man. Where I think we can win this
45:52
game. Yes.
45:55
But if we if we're turning the ball over early it's going to
45:57
BBC last year. Yeah.
46:00
Clearly aren't. We the Cleo you have more Talent
46:03
even regardless of a few guys are sitting out.
46:05
Yeah, please don't excuse. My pick is saying, we're
46:09
definitely going to win, I don't necessarily think that but I
46:13
think that as long as the pieces we think are going to be playing
46:18
or playing that we have enough to get past this team.
46:22
Yeah I wouldn't we Don't do if we don't execute, we don't do
46:26
the right things or they come out and play one of the best
46:29
games that they could possibly play.
46:30
Then we're still probably in a tough spot here, but I think
46:34
we've got enough talent and we've got enough talent in our
46:37
too deep. Yeah.
46:39
To match up with what they have got it.
46:42
Alright so my prediction is going to be this.
46:44
I'm going to go a little higher than what you did.
46:48
I still think we're going to win this game and I'm going to go
46:53
Virginia Tech 34 Wake Forest, 30 East 8:30 in the way.
47:02
I kind of see this game is similar to the last time we play
47:05
Tony Gibson. I think the defense will come up
47:08
late when they're forcing Hoffman to have to throw with
47:12
more than a three-point lead. I think we stopped them.
47:16
And that's the end of the game. Okay, let's move on.
47:22
That was hard. It points this week brine.
47:25
I was like, we're going to lose this game too.
47:27
We're going to beat them by two touchdowns to where I finally
47:30
landed, which is somewhere in the middle.
47:33
When Mike line, let's do a real quick.
47:35
Quick hit conference reactions to three games last week's of
47:40
some of our future opponents. Let's start with the Louisville,
47:43
Miami game. What did you think Saturday
47:46
night when that game played? Well, I was off.
47:53
I was a little off with my expectations there.
47:54
What do you think? You know, you said, I had to go
48:01
against you man and believe it or not.
48:03
You want to get some stuff. You talked about the me with the
48:05
secondary in Miami, and that's kind of what happened, right?
48:09
Beside a Miami. Although, it's not the elite
48:12
secondary of the early 2000's or the 1990s.
48:16
They're still better than Louisville.
48:18
What Louisville likes to do. Louisville, didn't hit a home
48:22
run. No they barely got a couple
48:24
Bubbles and it just pampered them and you could see it me and
48:28
you were texting us. Like if they can't get a big
48:31
play they they don't know what to do.
48:33
Yeah, I mean their ideas is to stretch you out and hit you over
48:37
the top and if you can't if they can teach you over the top
48:39
stretching, you out becomes a problem, it does because you
48:43
ain't worried about you and because you're going, You're
48:44
Going ladder or you're not gaining forward yardage, you're
48:46
not getting enough forward. Yardage.
48:48
Consistently to it. Sustained drives.
48:52
Exactly. And the other thing that we kind
48:54
of figured out about Louisville is, well, that defense.
48:59
It's not much better than last year.
49:01
Miami essentially, kind of did what they wanted from the
49:04
beginning to the end of that game.
49:07
So, Louisville, still have some ways to go.
49:09
We discussed Miami the previous show and we discuss Louisville
49:13
as well. I hate to say this, if we go
49:15
fully healthy into Louisville, I feel better about that.
49:19
Yeah, I'll say that. I feel better about that game.
49:22
Seeing what Miami was able to do to them than I did earlier.
49:26
I feel a little worse about Miami about playing my I don't
49:31
that significantly worse but I think they're probably, they
49:34
looked a lot crisper. I know they're playing the
49:37
caliber of defense was not great.
49:39
Yeah. But they looked a lot crisper
49:41
than they did in the first week. Glad we're not playing them this
49:45
week. Let's just say that.
49:47
All right up there, buddy. Next will be blessed.
49:52
Pittsburgh Syracuse. They were green.
49:57
We both got that right. Danny Green, Danny Green pick.
50:01
It is who we thought he was. Oh my God.
50:04
He yeah. And again it makes me feel
50:22
better about pit. We don't play Syracuse this year
50:25
would make me feel even better for Blake Syracuse.
50:27
This year would be like a give me a game but they're going to
50:32
have to win games like that. They're going to be games where
50:35
if they don't get to 21 they're going to lose and that defense
50:40
is good and just he just yeah we comfortable.
50:47
Covered it wouldn't even question.
50:49
Like the whole game is just like twenty two and a half points.
50:52
We got this well they can hear. We still got this score again we
50:57
got those. All right.
50:59
All right Brian kind of shocker of the week last week one that
51:04
again you took the L on. I thought the W BC took do kind
51:11
of behind the Woodshed that's an understatement.
51:17
Get me wrong. Like, you know, do they
51:19
definitely had some turnovers in this game.
51:21
I mean, you know, which didn't help, you know, Chase Bryce
51:25
through two pics and, you know, essentially they lose three
51:30
fumbles as well. So five total turnovers, which
51:32
usually don't see from David club sports teams.
51:35
But for BC, they not only with the turnovers, they capitalized
51:41
on those turnovers. They go out there and screw the
51:43
pooch on it. They went out there and just put
51:45
the hammer down which, you know, Connor, you know with with with
51:51
the new kind of system they would have fully and you defense
51:54
definitely throwing not throwing the ball more but throwing them
51:58
all. More downfield and more
52:00
attacking a kind of shocked. Yeah it feels like they're
52:04
attacking the whole field. A lot more than they have been
52:07
in the past. So you know, they're still I
52:11
think really heavy with the run but the fact that they can
52:15
really attack you in the passing game at a lot.
52:17
Of different levels. Now is going to create more
52:21
opportunities in the running game for them even than they've
52:25
had in the past. So but obviously Duke didn't do
52:28
themselves any favors with the turnovers hard to come back from
52:31
five turnovers. I mean we saw it against BC
52:33
ourselves last year, when you have five turnovers even if you
52:38
have more Talent, you're going to be in trouble.
52:40
And I don't think at this point Duke is significantly more
52:43
talented than BC and you know, it'll The cases whole units.
52:49
They're a lot less talented than BC.
52:52
Yeah. And it showed up on the only
52:54
game in did. Now, you talked about running
52:56
the ball, you know, BC ran the ball 41 times, they only got 84
53:02
yards. To me, that is a bit of a
53:04
concern. This early that is like two
53:06
yards a carry, which is something we just unexpected
53:09
from BC. So even though, you know, jerky
53:14
which had a great game 300 yards, you know, 13 yards and
53:18
attempt, which is really good and two touchdowns.
53:22
If team done, turnover ball five times, can you do that?
53:26
Can you run the ball 42 yards on average, and still win a game?
53:30
Don't know. Definitely this weekend.
53:33
BC Place. Texas State.
53:34
We're not picking that game. It's not a conference game.
53:38
But you know, I'm interested to see how that goes because if we
53:41
see another lesser opponent and they can't muster, I'd say this
53:46
week. If they don't monster four and a
53:47
half yards, a carry, then it might get concerning for BC
53:51
because, you know, And you're still not that good of a team
53:55
yet and usually you have to depend on something.
53:58
So can they depend on jerk of the cheese arm all year?
54:01
I don't think and we'll learn more about them but let's go to
54:06
Brian. Now let's go to making some
54:09
pics. Let's do it, do this.
54:12
Now I'm going to go ahead, throw it out, everybody.
54:14
Probably already knows. Do Wake Forest Notre Dame?
54:18
Was canceled for covid reasons. And, you know, I can't leave
54:24
Notre Dame. Seven players got tested
54:28
positive. Yeah, yeah, it's like combining
54:32
that with with contact tracing. They had a pretty good number,
54:36
especially it key positions that were sitting.
54:39
So they were going to have a little trouble Fielding a team
54:42
against against wake this week. And, you know, as we move
54:45
forward, I'll be, I think we're going to see probably one or two
54:48
of these a week, especially early in the season until We you
54:52
know, a lot of these guys end up with the situation like we have
54:55
with with Dax where he's got three months where or everybody
55:00
just should have just they should have just like everybody.
55:03
We're just going to give it to each other, for sure that
55:06
everybody's going to get a feeling that's what the SEC did
55:08
like they had like get it now. But do you also the SEC, the
55:19
majority of their state? Dirt, it's non-existent where
55:23
they're at. So, do the guys around him have
55:28
it he ain't goodbye. And that's going to be, that's
55:32
probably why they're going to get their schedule off in full
55:35
because the the states that regularly, what they do aren't
55:39
strict like that, whereas the ACC you started getting into
55:43
North Carolina. Virginia obviously, New York.
55:47
It's stricter. So yeah, but let's pick these
55:51
James Brian. Let's start with this.
55:53
We get to pick them again. Georgia Tech Syracuse.
55:58
This will be at Syracuse, Georgia, Tech, laying seven and
56:02
a half points. Will you feel on this one?
56:05
Give me GT. All right, Brian.
56:08
You are laying that seven and a half and another tough one for
56:16
me. I'm going to go against you
56:17
though are good. I think seven and a half is not
56:23
enough points to be laying. I think this is gonna be an ugly
56:28
game like Florida state, Georgia Tech ugly without a three-hour
56:33
delay that slowed the momentum of the team down.
56:37
I'll face. I'll say I think Georgia Tech
56:39
wins the game but the score is going to be like for think it's
56:44
tight. One ugly ugly 21:17 some like
56:48
that. Ugly yeah. 16:7 but she's 16
56:53
now. Jesus for real quick.
57:01
The cousins down here. On 64, Juke plays at UVA, UVB?
57:07
A laying five when you think about this one, Brian.
57:11
This is the one. I've been going back and forth
57:13
on for a while now. You know I've been doing the
57:18
same thing. It, you know, your way in this
57:23
against UVA has got tape on Duke to prepare versus Duke gets UVA.
57:31
Fresh, they haven't had a had a game yet, so there's probably
57:34
gonna be some rust on uva's part, so it's really hard to say
57:39
which way that's going to go. I'm going to steal, I'm going to
57:44
go UVA. Okay.
57:47
All right, so we landed on opposite ends of the spectrum.
57:51
I don't think of David cutcliffe flame is going to play two
57:53
horrible games in a row and I think five enough to where I
57:58
think they get out right when it I think you've EAS defense is
58:01
probably good enough to hold them tight again.
58:04
I think another super tight lower scoring game.
58:08
Something in the neighborhood of like 2017 they probably will win
58:14
but Duke will cover If Brandon Armstrong makes some of those
58:18
throws we've seen in his videos, they could lose this game
58:21
probably by 10 because I think we know he can run a sprint out
58:27
and throw to the sideline, it doesn't even better when you put
58:31
a fisheye lens on it. I love it, I love it.
58:36
All right, let's go next to the Saturday night game, Florida
58:41
State Miami. It's at Miami.
58:42
Miami is laying 11 points. Obviously Mike Norvell 8
58:49
coaching is sweet because he got.
58:52
He got the wrong, he got the room, I'll let you pick first on
58:56
this one, all right. I don't think first on this one,
58:58
I think mine me continues to roll Braun, and it's more of not
59:03
necessarily not having Not having.
59:09
Norville there. But with this offense him having
59:14
a very key hand into it and Miami rolling right now, they're
59:19
still kind of fixing their defense other than the defensive
59:22
line at Florida State. I think just 11 is too much.
59:25
I think you're going to see similar to last week.
59:27
I probably put probably like 3820.
59:33
Iyami okay? I just can't see for
59:37
out-of-state. Keeping up with them by more
59:40
than two touchdowns. It could prove me wrong and
59:42
those kids get up for this game. Like it's happened in the past
59:45
but I can't see that this week. Yeah, I'm actually going to go
59:48
with you on that one with Miami. I just think it's going to be
59:53
too much probably for FSU to overcome between Norville being
59:57
out, playing a quality opponent, playing an opponent that they
1:00:01
can't come. Push the ball down field with
1:00:07
both teams have garbage offensive lines.
1:00:09
But I think without having some of the coaches on the sideline
1:00:13
that that's going to impact FSU more than it does Miami,
1:00:17
especially, because a having a guy like Kink and kind of
1:00:21
overcome some of that. So I'm going to go Miami to
1:00:25
cover. Got it.
1:00:27
All right, let's take a quick exit out of conference for a
1:00:30
couple games here, Brian. And let's go to a couple of the
1:00:33
big top, 25 matchups. The first one is going to be
1:00:36
down on the plains, jordan-hare Stadium.
1:00:39
Number 23, Kentucky takes on. Number 8, Auburn Auburn is
1:00:43
laying seven and a half points where I'm going to go ahead and
1:00:46
jump on this one first man. I've got to take Kentucky and
1:00:52
couple reasons why eight Stoops get the teams to go into.
1:00:56
Grind Fest, no matter if they're more talented or not.
1:01:00
You got Scary Terry Wilson back, not Lynn Bowden, talk about him.
1:01:04
And third thing that happened last year, but Auburn lost a lot
1:01:09
of their defense to the NFL. And I know they're one of those
1:01:12
programs that have a lot of talent constantly on the roster.
1:01:17
But do you know Brian last four meetings for these teams routine
1:01:22
has one. Okay.
1:01:26
Give me Kentucky, give me the seven and a half points.
1:01:31
I think Auburn's gonna win the game.
1:01:32
I think they're going to snap the street but it's going to be
1:01:35
like a last second field. Gold.
1:01:37
Give me in the mid-20s 2421 Auburn, but Kentucky covers.
1:01:43
Okay, okay. Where'd you go on this one?
1:01:50
This one. This one was one of the tough
1:01:51
ones. I was kind of rolling around and
1:01:53
still not sure where I wanted to go with.
1:01:55
I'm gonna since I'm undecided, I'm actually going to just go
1:01:59
ahead and take Auburn just to be different.
1:02:02
Okay? Yeah, I think both of them are
1:02:06
going to turn into a little bit of a grind Fest but I'm I'm
1:02:09
gonna call the the back door. Cover here, back door, cover to
1:02:16
win. So give me something like Like
1:02:20
hmm. Give me.
1:02:26
Was line 7 and a half. Oh no, yeah 2828 back.
1:02:33
Doors coming open all the time, man.
1:02:36
All right, let's go to the next cell touchdown.
1:02:38
Sorry. All right.
1:02:56
Well, let's go to the other top 25 game this weekend, the Black
1:03:00
Knights of Army against the Cincinnati Bearcats.
1:03:03
This game is at Cincinnati. Cincinnati is laying 14 and a
1:03:09
half. Who you have her on.
1:03:18
Give me Army in the 14 and a half, and buddy.
1:03:23
I'm right with you. And you want to know why what
1:03:26
you got. Home runs a triple option,
1:03:28
right? Oh yeah.
1:03:30
There is going to be a limited number of possessions in this
1:03:32
game. I don't think Cincinnati is
1:03:35
going to get enough possessions to actually blow them out by
1:03:40
more than two touchdowns. I think Cincinnati probably wins
1:03:43
the game but somewhere like 2821 it.
1:03:47
It's, you know, playing the option teams takes away, so many
1:03:51
of your possessions because even if they go three and out,
1:03:54
they're still taking so much time off the clock.
1:03:57
Yeah, the thing with since he has, since he's going to have to
1:03:59
be getting points pretty much on every Drive.
1:04:02
Yeah and up it to cover. Yeah, exactly.
1:04:07
I mean the Army's going to probably have three or four long
1:04:10
drives and two or three more that are longer than Cincinnati
1:04:15
wants them to be. So I think that's going to be
1:04:20
problematic for them. And like you said, it's going to
1:04:22
shorten the game and I think since he still wins out, right?
1:04:26
But I don't think it's going to be 14 and a half.
1:04:30
Yeah. And I think that that's going to
1:04:33
be an entertaining game and I mean, 3:30 slate.
1:04:36
Some games we didn't use talked about West Virginia, Oklahoma
1:04:40
State Mississippi State. Unless you even though we're not
1:04:43
picking it because we in decide on it, giving the sippy stay
1:04:46
with the points. I don't think LSU with a
1:04:49
non-hostile Death Valley is going to be able to get 17 on
1:04:53
leech, Texas, Texas Tech a lot of really good games this
1:04:58
weekend. Again we said earlier this is
1:05:00
like the first really full week in week, 12 of you see a AC SEC
1:05:06
all in play. All right.
1:05:07
Last pick Brian because this is kind of the big one for the
1:05:09
conference. High Noon.
1:05:10
I'm going to miss a good amount of it.
1:05:12
So I expect you to be giving me. How many times can you take it
1:05:15
looks terrible. Bill hit, this is at Pitt
1:05:21
normal, normal conditions, for them, their conditions pit is
1:05:25
laying two and a half witch. I'm just kind of sitting here
1:05:31
like, huh? Really?
1:05:34
What are, you know, for the legal limit,
1:05:53
Louisville's gonna win the game outright.
1:05:56
And I think this will be one of those pit games where it gets,
1:06:00
probably closer to 30 but pick it and going to get to 30.
1:06:04
Give me 27 2000 available. 27:20 Louisville.
1:06:14
Okay. Okay man.
1:06:20
I hate to do it. Okay.
1:06:24
I'm going to take Pit and the points to cover the three, and
1:06:29
it was a two and a half, but I have so listen to have to win
1:06:34
the game. Hey, feel about that?
1:06:38
It hurts my soul, man. I've picked UVA and pit and
1:06:44
Miami in the same day and pick em.
1:06:48
Hey, hey. We're talking about, you know,
1:06:51
pigs here not. You know, do I like the team or
1:06:54
not? Yeah, I think at this point
1:06:59
seeing what happened in Miami? I don't trust that.
1:07:01
Secondary enough. I'm not saying, Kenny pickings
1:07:04
gonna go out there and light it up, but I could see it being
1:07:07
like a 31-28, win by pit. So, you're thinking that it's
1:07:13
going to take away enough home runs where and, and they might
1:07:17
end up getting a defensive touchdown.
1:07:19
Gosh. All right, got it.
1:07:21
All right, so that's the pics for the week.
1:07:23
We go. Look back.
1:07:24
Last week. Brian went 3 and 2 and
1:07:29
improving. Brian.
1:07:30
Good for you. I want foreign one so records
1:07:33
right now, I'm seven. And for Brian is five and six.
1:07:36
Hopefully Brian, you can get over the 500.
1:07:38
Hump this weekend and we'll go back.
1:07:41
Guys, will recap our Virginia Tech, NC State pick.
1:07:44
Prime's going 3124. I'm going. 3430 both Virginia
1:07:49
Tech that line. And let's see where it is.
1:07:51
As of right now, it was seven. I think started eleven and a
1:07:57
half and if you really want to know how many players are out a
1:08:01
listen to the pregame show, I'm sure Wes and all the guys will
1:08:05
be talking about who's on the field, who's not on the field.
1:08:08
But if you're not near a radio, pick up your phone and whatever
1:08:13
app you use to see betting lines, if that line is trending
1:08:17
further down, that means there's probably quite a few players.
1:08:20
Is that aren't are for Virginia Tech.
1:08:22
Yeah, I mean if I was baking the line myself based on the
1:08:27
information I have I put it about four or five and you
1:08:31
about. Yeah. 4:45 Point.
1:08:32
Let's meet in the middle. Yeah we'll say four and a half.
1:08:34
That's I put it at four and a half.
1:08:36
Yeah. Even though I don't think it's
1:08:39
going to be a Pick'em but at the same time, I think there's
1:08:43
enough question marks with probably who we're going to end
1:08:46
up having on the field to where you don't feel the same
1:08:49
confidence that you normally. We would all right, Brown, get
1:08:53
back to our fun in the chest. What you're smoking.
1:08:57
Free. So I'm going this weekend.
1:09:03
Some jalapeno, poppers and some smoked case.
1:09:06
So I'm guessing this is probably has a lot to do with us having a
1:09:12
night game and you probably going to be antsy so the day.
1:09:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to kind of sit around in
1:09:28
trying to do something. You know hour or two something I
1:09:32
can probably even do all my my Weber kettle versus having to
1:09:35
fire up the Smoky Mountain. Very nice, my friend will Braun.
1:09:40
I'm going to do one last Twitter check and since we've been on
1:09:43
the air, the Mountain West Conference is back.
1:09:48
They will start an eight-game football schedule, starting
1:09:50
October 24th title game on the 19th.
1:09:53
No jock there. I think the only one that's not
1:09:56
back right now is the mac and the rumors are they're Tomorrow
1:09:59
right. Yeah, rumors are the that will
1:10:01
get some action tomorrow. Man Maxon, wins the match should
1:10:06
just be smart, and just say, we're playing every game on
1:10:08
Wednesday. Yep.
1:10:12
Every game on Wednesday, give everybody something to do right
1:10:15
in the middle of the week would get the full Spotlight on them
1:10:20
about a team there in the midwest.
1:10:22
Where if they did a six pm kicking and I'm p.m. kick, they
1:10:25
literally could get ESPNU espnews.
1:10:29
E into the, I think they have a CVS.
1:10:31
They literally could have all their games televised at 6:00
1:10:33
and 9:00 Wednesday night. Yeah, there would be degenerate
1:10:36
gamblers and people like me. There's nothing else on me.
1:10:39
Yeah, I'm gonna watch a couple quarters of the olm action and
1:10:43
let me look here, let me look here.
1:10:45
We're not seeing most like our game is still on as of 1101.
1:10:50
Hey hour, and 10 minutes later. So let's cross our fingers for
1:10:55
the next roughly. Really 2436 hours that
1:10:59
Everything turns out gravy and we're seeing we're seeing.
1:11:03
I hope he's play on Saturday night.
1:11:06
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1:11:11
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