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The $100 Million Deli with Jamie Loftus · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: Scal Come, Robber Fry, scal Come Robbery and Fry, Scam
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  Speaker 1: Goddess Wes Pop and Congregation At your Girl. Lacey Mosley
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  Speaker 1: aka Scam got us back with another installment of the
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  Speaker 1: comedy podcast all about robbery, fraud and those who practice it.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. Well, one
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  Speaker 1: thing is for sure, we will laugh at them, but
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  Speaker 1: never at the victims congregation. I'm very, very thrilled. There's
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  Speaker 1: a little tingle up my leg. Right now we have
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  Speaker 1: a repeat guest, a member of the congregation. At this point,
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  Speaker 1: she might be first Lady sitting in the front pew
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  Speaker 1: wearing large hats that obstruct people's views, and we love that.
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  Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus is the host of the Bechdel Podcast, the
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  Speaker 1: author of the New York Times best seller Raw Dog
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  Speaker 1: and her forthcoming book The Tower that comes out next summer. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: the two times off the rest, Yes, please welcome. Jamie
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  Speaker 1: loftis first Lady back to the show.
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  Speaker 2: I wish he'd worn a bigger hat.
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  Speaker 1: You had them.
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  Speaker 2: I wore a hat, but I'll go bigger next time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Never heard of it in my life. I got it
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  Speaker 2: in the State sale so this is just a dead
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  Speaker 2: guy's hat.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, so we're bringing dead guy hat energy to the show.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, it wasn't my intention, but I'm assuming there's a
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  Speaker 2: cosmic reason.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a fun dead guy if we had that hat. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I do you do a state sales? I have only
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  Speaker 2: been to a couple, and I struggle.
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  Speaker 1: Where do you find them? You have to.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you just have to have a friend
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  Speaker 2: who's really into a state sales because I I got
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  Speaker 2: dragged to one, and sometimes I mean, like in this area,
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  Speaker 2: they can be pretty cool because it's like dead guys
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  Speaker 2: who worked on Tonsylvania or whatever. But you are sort
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  Speaker 2: of just walking through someone's house and buying their stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But some people love it. I worry about.
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  Speaker 1: The energy of the stuff that I'm getting.
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  Speaker 2: It is so I would never and I love dolls.
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  Speaker 2: I guess I would consider myself a soft doll collector
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  Speaker 2: and never buy a doll at an estate sale. Nightmare.
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  Speaker 1: What is a soft doll collector? You don't have to
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  Speaker 1: answer your doll collector.
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  Speaker 2: That refuses to identify as Okay, I you know, I
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  Speaker 2: guess maybe it's I'm not I don't consider myself a
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  Speaker 2: part of the doll collecting community and my dolls.
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  Speaker 1: We're not going to conventions. You're not. No, you're not
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  Speaker 1: in the forums.
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  Speaker 2: It's relegated to one room. Okay, one one room where
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  Speaker 2: my where the doll situation is happening. The rest of
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  Speaker 2: the home is.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, doll light. So it's not kitchy. Yeah, it's not
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  Speaker 1: like that one episode. Do you remember Sex in the
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  Speaker 1: City that uh where?
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  Speaker 2: Uh? I?
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  Speaker 1: Who was it? Was it Samantha or who was banging
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  Speaker 1: the doll guy and all the dolls were on the
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  Speaker 1: bed and he was trying to like gently take them off.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Samantha that.
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  Speaker 2: Ish that made an impression on me, that made a
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  Speaker 2: strong impression on me, And I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: Where is he? Does that? I exist?
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  Speaker 2: Because everyone I've ever dated has not been a fan
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  Speaker 2: of the dolls. They have been tolerant at best.
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  Speaker 1: But it's like something can slowly introduce because it's in
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  Speaker 1: one room.
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  Speaker 2: That's I mean, that's truly in the past when I
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  Speaker 2: was like living in a much smaller space. I literally
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  Speaker 2: for the first like months or so of dating until
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  Speaker 2: I was sure I wanted them to stick around dolls
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  Speaker 2: in the closet.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, So this was your scams, get hit with the
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  Speaker 1: I love you, and then you open the door, the
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  Speaker 1: doll door tumbling out.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, well, I guess it's too late. I guess
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  Speaker 2: you love me for me and all my dolls.
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  Speaker 1: I love this. I'm trying to date more. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't really date seriously before at all. I was just
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  Speaker 1: work home, work home. You can't really meet anybody when
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  Speaker 1: you just at home. Yeah, although one time I did
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  Speaker 1: meet someone in building.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh that's so meet cute.
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  Speaker 1: And then yeah he was a crypto criminal in Miami now,
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  Speaker 1: but it was at the time. Yes, But yeah, Now
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do the whole slow roll three
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  Speaker 1: months I love you and then open my proverbial doll
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  Speaker 1: closet exactly and be like so glad to hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Something is very wrong with me though, Hope, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it's all about.
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  Speaker 1: She got him on the hook. Now. There's too much
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  Speaker 1: to love for them to not love the dolls.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like you're asking him to play with them.
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  Speaker 2: You don't deserve me at my not having a ton
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  Speaker 2: of dolls if you can't handle me at my closet
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  Speaker 2: full of dolls.
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  Speaker 1: I feel amen, Well, I want to get into this
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  Speaker 1: historic hood win a little bit quicker to say, because
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  Speaker 1: we've got a lot to go through. Cool, And I
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  Speaker 1: love having a genius on the show. If you don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I always love to brag that Jamie's and mensa. I
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  Speaker 1: need to tell everyone because it's like, I'm mensa, Jason.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I put on these glasses. Mm hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: And so you know you're already scanning far more mensa
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  Speaker 2: than I ever have.
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  Speaker 1: This is the vibe, this is the genius vibe. I
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  Speaker 1: love it, but I'm like, this is me pretending that
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  Speaker 1: I'm at vinsa beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful mensa cosplay. They don't deserve it. They don't
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  Speaker 2: deserve it truly. I know how you said you was
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  Speaker 2: fighting with them on forums. Yeah, it's getting cyber bullets
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  Speaker 2: by mensa for two years, you know, with at.
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  Speaker 1: Least good at cyber bullying. I hope that they were
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  Speaker 1: coming up with some very intellectual digs. I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 1: they were intellectual there, definitely. I hadn't heard them before. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I don't think I feel like chat GBT has
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  Speaker 2: probably ruined the mensa forums because they were getting at
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  Speaker 2: least they were really sinking through the ways in which
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  Speaker 2: they were threatening to kill me.
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  Speaker 1: I feel, do you think they're putting it in AI
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  Speaker 1: like cyber bully plush Jamie loftis plus.
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  Speaker 2: I would bet any amount of money that most that
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  Speaker 2: people on the menta forums are obsessed with AI.
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  Speaker 1: That's such a disappointment, I know. Oh goodness. Well, today
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  Speaker 1: in our historic Hoodwink, which is my favorite segment of
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  Speaker 1: the show. If you're new to the show, this is
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  Speaker 1: where I will regale Jamie the famous con Caper group
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  Speaker 1: of criminals. Maybe we love them, maybe we hate them.
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  Speaker 1: We don't know yet. But today we're talking about a
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  Speaker 1: father and a son, a scammer duo, a father and
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  Speaker 1: a son. I like that because, like the father is
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  Speaker 1: taking time to be a dad by doing crime with
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  Speaker 1: his son.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I mean, and I know we say that
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  Speaker 2: like the bar is on the floor for fathers, But
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, just take an interest.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Being a dad is just showing up, just.
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  Speaker 2: Showing up even one to five times, you know, and
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  Speaker 2: that's memorable.
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  Speaker 1: So taking time to scam with your son, I'm already
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  Speaker 1: on board. But let's see how long I stay on board. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So it's a scammer father and son duo. They got
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  Speaker 1: a small time New Jersey deli that's valued over one
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  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars on the stock market, and although the
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  Speaker 1: cheese steak was good, it was not that good.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, that's a that's a small building.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred million dollars on the stock market for this,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm automatically assuming this is some sort of front
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  Speaker 1: or something, because what do you mean this concrete slab.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of say it kind of looks like a storage unit,
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  Speaker 2: no offense. I do feel like there is something. Anytime
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  Speaker 2: there's like four to five different fonts on the sign,
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  Speaker 2: you're like, I have questions.
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  Speaker 1: Because the first font is giving me like Chinese restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: the hometown sure, sure, and then.
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  Speaker 2: The daily Broadway fond Broadway font bold, which okay.
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  Speaker 1: A choice, And then it gets Italian when they say like,
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  Speaker 1: chuck E cheese Italian not Italian, Chuck E cheese. What
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  Speaker 1: a scam. I used to dancing with that rat. I
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  Speaker 1: would you make a restaurant scheme a rat? Like we
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  Speaker 1: should have know what we're getting into.
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  Speaker 2: He used to smoke cigars too, I'm like, the cigar.
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  Speaker 1: Rats is just see where you bring your kids to
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  Speaker 1: play for a good report card, you get to see
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  Speaker 1: the cigar rat.
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  Speaker 2: I miss it.
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  Speaker 1: I miss I have this ciar so they could start
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  Speaker 1: warming the kids up to the casino exactly like how
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  Speaker 1: they gave them fake cigarettes that were candy.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's a gambling gateway drug. I'm sure it
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  Speaker 2: worked for some people, but for me it doesn't. I
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  Speaker 2: don't like casinos because there's no cigar rat. What's the point.
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  Speaker 1: Plenty of cigar rats. They're just like fix the year
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  Speaker 1: old dudes who are hitting on your traps table.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, they're just ones that are actually harassing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I got play cigar rats and then we
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  Speaker 1: got the phone number on the deli. Here. There's also
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  Speaker 1: three American flags because.
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  Speaker 2: I don't yeah red red flag adjacent.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Used to like American flags. You know, I was
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  Speaker 1: born on the fourth of July. They used to be
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  Speaker 1: like really happy thing for me. And I used to
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  Speaker 1: have red, white and blue American flag swimsuits. I was
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  Speaker 1: all about it. Now you'll never see red, whine and
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  Speaker 1: blue at my party because like it turned into like
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  Speaker 1: a dog whistle For first, yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, oh, it's it's so bizarre. Even seeing pictures of
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  Speaker 2: like my childhood home with an American flag outside, I
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  Speaker 2: was like, what were we thinking?
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  Speaker 1: We're in America?
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  Speaker 2: What's wrong with us?
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  Speaker 1: They know, like an Italian flag outside in America. It's like, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're Italian, that makes sense, But an American flag in America.
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  Speaker 1: We know we in America, and I don't want to say.
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  Speaker 2: And also for this place, Italian flags might actually make
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  Speaker 2: more sense unless they're trying to dog whistle, which maybe
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  Speaker 2: they are. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, we're Italian, but not that Italian. We're chuck
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  Speaker 1: e cheese it tie, We're rat with the guard Italian. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: don't worry. So this was valued at one hundred million
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  Speaker 1: dollars on the stock market. So, hometown Deli, this is
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  Speaker 1: a story about your hometown deli. Not my hometown deli.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're in Paulsboro, New Jersey, which is across
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  Speaker 1: the river from Philadelphia International Airport, you know these are
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  Speaker 1: landmarks wild. I love the Philadelphia International Airport. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: It's so good, it's great. I love they have a.
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  Speaker 2: Framed picture of n Night Shymalan in there. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to see that before I get on
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  Speaker 1: a plane. What are you trying to say to me?
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  Speaker 2: It does sort of feel like a harbinger of something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but they're so proud of him. I just saw him
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  Speaker 2: on my way into adulta flight. A couple you were like,
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  Speaker 2: good and good for him, you know what, good for him?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, they're trying to be like hometown hero. It wasn't
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  Speaker 1: like a poster for one of his movies.
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  Speaker 2: No, okay, okay, okay, maybe they are somewhere in there.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe. So the town takes up less than two square miles,
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  Speaker 1: most of which is oil refineries and one large truck stop.
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  Speaker 1: So a lot of savory, safe things happening in this town. Cool, okay,
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  Speaker 1: truck stops notoriously, not.
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  Speaker 2: Weird, nothing bad happens there.
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  Speaker 1: Oil refineries not dangerous, right, good stuff happening in less than.
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  Speaker 2: Two square miles. It's kind of impressive, right if there's
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  Speaker 2: that many kind of menacing auras, right.
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  Speaker 1: But I think it's because that's all that's there.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: So, your hometown Deli is now closed, but in its
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  Speaker 1: heyday it had the plastic red checkerboard tablecloths and fake
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  Speaker 1: flower center pieces that you would expect, and it had
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  Speaker 1: a pretty decent cheese steak on the menu.
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  Speaker 2: Nice Okay, so they couldn't spring for the cloth. The
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  Speaker 2: hundred million tablecloths, the one hundred millions are getting kind
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  Speaker 2: of dubious. I do feel like this is the kind
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  Speaker 2: of place that would have deceptively amazing coffee, possibly, but
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  Speaker 2: definitely a picture you can smell.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. What's getting me is why are all the chairs
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  Speaker 1: different fonts?
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  Speaker 2: That's like, that's true.
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  Speaker 1: They just went and picked up chairs off the corner
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  Speaker 1: off like.
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  Speaker 2: There are some just like loose. There's like school assembly chairs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeso, there's school assembly chairs. Then we've got like the
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  Speaker 1: kind of picnicky wood chairs, and then we've got in
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  Speaker 1: the back we've got kind of like the grandmash. You know,
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  Speaker 1: is it a rocket chair? It might just be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you get like a little it seems like mostly
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  Speaker 2: donated chairs here, no shade, but not one hundred million
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  Speaker 2: dollars five Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Also, like I get that maybe they were trying to
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  Speaker 1: go for hodgepodge kitchi, but they didn't get quite close enough.
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  Speaker 1: It's no.
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  Speaker 2: Also, this is like a pet peeve of mine, far
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  Speaker 2: too many menu items that to me is like a
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  Speaker 2: huge scam, like red flag. I worked at a drug
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  Speaker 2: front place. Maybe I told you.
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  Speaker 1: About it before. I've worked at a drug prot too,
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  Speaker 1: Tell me about yours.
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  Speaker 2: I worked at this place, Rip Pan Roma in Alston, Massachusetts.
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  Speaker 2: It did finally close, but it was I we were
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  Speaker 2: I feel like there's like an overcompensating vibe where they're like,
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  Speaker 2: we have three hundred menu items, but there's actually four
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  Speaker 2: and two of them are cocaine. Like they're like that that's.
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  Speaker 1: All you need.
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  Speaker 2: It's all you need.
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  Speaker 1: I want to eat if you can get you a cocaine.
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  Speaker 2: I was not. I was kind of bod I was
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  Speaker 2: never really like let in on. It was like clearly
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  Speaker 2: a drug front. It became clear to me. I was
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  Speaker 2: like paid in cash under the table, but I was
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  Speaker 2: just sort of manning the front, selling loose pizza slices.
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  Speaker 2: And they were like, I think that sort of as
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  Speaker 2: like a hush money thing. They're like, and you can
• 12:47
  Speaker 2: have as many diet cokes as you want. And I
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: challenged that policy so hard that they changed it. They're like,
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  Speaker 2: you could have no more than seven diet cokes and
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  Speaker 2: a ship.
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  Speaker 1: Leaders. I thought we saw more cocaine. Yeah, but Jamie
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  Speaker 1: took us out of house at home with the cola
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  Speaker 1: pack a day. She had a different co capit.
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  Speaker 2: But Yeah, the too many menu items, I feel like
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  Speaker 2: it's like puffing your chest out. I don't believe that
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  Speaker 2: these are all menu items that actually exist.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to say that you have nark
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  Speaker 1: vibes because I don't believe you do. Okay, but I
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  Speaker 1: think you might have given off a little bit of
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  Speaker 1: a nark vibe by maybe trying to be good at
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  Speaker 1: the job. Like this is obviously a job where you
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  Speaker 1: should be on your phone maybe a sleep sometimes went
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  Speaker 1: back and so you hear the doorbell ring.
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  Speaker 2: I was so awake, I was drinking five thousand dash.
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have gone to sleep if I wanted to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so they needed to kind of clue you
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  Speaker 1: in on stuff because you're just a little too alert.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody just doesn't give it like I got the sweetest
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  Speaker 1: job ever. I don't do shit.
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  Speaker 2: Just throw a xanax at her, see what happened?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so, and I grew with you on the main items.
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  Speaker 1: Way too many specialize in something please, yes, so, But
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  Speaker 1: when it came to the chef's quality ketchup packets on
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  Speaker 1: the side, which is even worse than Hunts, as one
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: food writer pointed out, which is not a good ketchup. No,
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: and how do you feel about that rog dog expertise.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hunts is when Hines isn't available, unfortunately.
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  Speaker 1: And it's sad.
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  Speaker 2: It's sad for them. I wonder how they I wonder
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  Speaker 2: if they were ever competitive. I wonder if they were
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  Speaker 2: ever contender. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like Hunts is like Pepsi, where they just
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  Speaker 1: got a bunch of contracts with places that Coke didn't get,
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  Speaker 1: and like, you know, you go somewhere and can I
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: have a sprite and they're like you could have a Cierra,
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  Speaker 1: miss bitch, and then you just.
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  Speaker 2: Like immediately followed by someone looking like okay.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's all you got.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's a hunt. I mean it. Heines has their
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  Speaker 2: own museum. Hunts certainly not.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, because we're not hunting for it. No what
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  Speaker 1: I mean at all. And that's why I appreciate that
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: your book cover has yellow mustard on it, because Dejon
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and New York always piss me off. I'm like, I
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: don't know what the Djon mafia is about, but you
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: can never go to a hot dog stand in New
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  Speaker 1: York and get yellow. They's not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the Dijon syop indoors.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: So the Delhi is around the corner from Paul's Barrow
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  Speaker 1: High School, which shares the property with a sports practice
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  Speaker 1: center where the school's famous wrestling team trains. Since nineteen
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  Speaker 1: thirty seven, Paul's Burrow has won more individual New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: wrestling medals than any other team in the state, and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: high school wrestling is really really important around here. Is
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: that a good look in Philly cheese steak?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what is it?
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Do you?
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: I'm not into Philly cheese steak, so I was. I'm
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: tempted to judge, but I also like, I don't know.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's one of those foods it's supposed to
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: look greasy and nasty, Like the nasty it looks the better.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: It's not like a photogenic yeah sandwich.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: It's not a Shexea sandwich, but you put your mouth
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: on it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It looks like you would never It's it's like eating
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: like a tuna sub on a date, Like you don't
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: want to hang out with someone after they put that
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: in themselves.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we can't kiss after you put that in you. No, no, no,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: something you eat in private after a long night of drinking,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: you don't.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that is meant to That is like a
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: MIC's hard lemonade sponge. Yes, if anything.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't eat that in public. Yeah, I have
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: no idea.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's good or not, but I will pass as
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: someone who's had five trillion hot dogs. I'll pass on that, right.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: I love hot dogs. You know that, right, I have
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: like a passion for them. Wait do you have?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think I know it? Like, what's your favorite?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So I'm so basic. I want a hot dog that's
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: grilled to where it's got the little char marks on it,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: and I want ketchup on it, and I want mustard
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: on it, and that's it. A grilled bun. We can
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: do that too, But don't give me no seas on it.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Don't give me no bun. It's too too ready.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: I'm the same as you with a grilled or toasted
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: bun and a little bit of relish. Okay, get a
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: split grilled hot dog. Nothing like it in the entire world.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I watched how hot dogs
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: get made, and I was like, this just made me
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: want one, Like unfortunately.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I'm beholden to tell people what
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: they're made out of, but I still eat so many
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: of them. It's embarrassing.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Listen the air we suck down every day. Everything's poison.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: What are we gonna do it in America?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, So in a typical year, the deli would lose
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars easily with only twenty two thousand
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: dollars in revenue, which works out to selling about five
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: cheese steaks a day. Rude, all that barely counts as
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: a restaurant at all. Like, I don't know if that
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: counts as like a lemonade stay in.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: It was like, there's more sandwiches going in and out
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: at like your average household. Yeah, then if you have
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: like even like two kids, you're doing more than five
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: a day. Interests five a day?
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, So this is not a real restaurant. But instead
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: of trying to make the restaurant better, a friend with
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: a finance background convinced the owners to incorporate the deli
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: under the umbrella of Hometown International, a shell company Okay,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: so somebody saw the opportunity for a drug.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Front and it's a perfectly vague suspicion, a sounding name.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Hometown into nets. What did I say international? I know
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: it didn't. What do you that that's oxymoron? What do
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you mean hometown international? How were going at home? And
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: all over?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Every town is hometown under a hometown International? Just slop talk?
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: Honestly, I need to just start reading through LL season.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I could figure out which ones we're
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: doing crime so easily. What do you mean?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: It's a global local global and quiver Henry.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: So the owners of your hometown deli might not have
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: noticed the issue because they were working at other full
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: time jobs because clearing these five sandwiches ain't making shit
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: shake yeah, And you know, and they were at the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: high school around the corner, and the high school has
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the big wrestling team that's the focus of the town.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like a high school wrestling team and we're not
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: even moving five sandwiches obviously at front.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't they need to make weight?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: Right? I'm like you, we should have at least five
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: teenage boys with eating disorders at the place every single day.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Right, getting on the scale, have a scale in the bathroom, like,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: we know what you're doing. Over to the high school. Yeah,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: so the Deli dream. Paul Marina has been Hometown International's president, CEO,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: and CFO since it was formed in twenty fourteen. He's
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: also the principal of Paulsborough High School and had been
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the head coach of the wrestling team since nineteen eighty six.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: So do you want to count how many jobs that was?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: I wonder how many of them he's doing.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: He's Hometown International's president, he's a CEO, he's a CFO,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: and that doesn't strike me as weird because technically, in
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: my company's I am all of those things.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Sure, sure it is a small enough business, right.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So then he was also the principal of Paul'sboro High
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: He's job the head wrestling coach since nineteen eighty six.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Paul Marina, do you love your wife? Because it seems
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: like you're never home.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm so curious how he makes it work. I mean,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: I assume he's really dropping the ball at minimum two. Yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: minimum too, And if we're talking about him, the scam
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: is probably one of them.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, clearly dropped the ball in the crime. That was
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: what he should have really kept up with. So he's
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: a beloved local wrestling legend in the two square mile area.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, icon of this big fish square.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: In this in the Tennis Square. Okay, shut out, Paul.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean a local celebrity. It's kind
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: of difficult in Los Angeles, Like we have Angeline.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I feel like there's there's so it's
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: almost impossible to be a local celebrity. But I I
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: mean when you meet a local celebrity in a small town,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: you know, it's amazing. It's like the dog is the man,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: where's the dog? The mayor, It's like that You're like,
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: well I met the dog mayor. But it's like a guy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the guy like they get free refills on everything, like,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Put is.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: When a local celeb walks into a diner and everyone's
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: like and it's truly just some guy. It's awesome.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: He hasn't paid for a pancake since nineteen eighty six.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Totally get why people leave LA and yeah, yeah, I
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: want to do that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I think there's a bunch of like not to keep
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: bringing up hot dogs, but like Joey Chestnut is a
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: local celeb in Indianapolis. He can't. He just sails through
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: any door. Everyone knows who he is.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I would never give that up. I know that's my
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: diet Coke. I just beat every day.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Until they cut you off.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they would cut me off. They're like, no more
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: free pancakes for you, lad, damn scarce God. So Paul
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: had an idea to open a deli as his retirement plan.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: It would be a neighborhood restaurant where wrestlers could go
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: after practice to hang out, watch Eagles games, and eat
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: hogies and soft pretzels made by his girlfriend, Christine linden Mouth,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: who was a math teacher at the same school. Okay,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: you can tell Christine linden Mouth was a baddie back
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: in the day. Like I could tell from just how
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: her skin is moisturized, like her little hairstyled a little
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: tendre the up to. Yeah, she's got the little slutty
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: little sideburns, like you know she was a girl.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I love a little slutty employee picture.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: So herdful off because like is this your school picture?
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Like why are you showing at this collar ball? She
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: got the classical owl. But she's like, I'm a respectful
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not trying to get with the kid.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: But it's got a little slit in the middle, just
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: to give you a just to give you imagination. Howork.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So he needed some coin right to get this off
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: the ground. That's why he went to James Patten, who
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: was a friend since third grade and a former wrestling teammate.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: While Paul had stayed in Paulsboro to build a wrestling
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: dynasty and be a local two miles celebrity, James went
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: to Wall Street, where he and his older brother built
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: a stock brokerage with four offices in more than eighty employees.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Sheez, Okay, it's a lot. It's just occurring to me.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Is Paul the most famous guy in Paul'sborough? Strictly on?
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: Like he's the only Paul in town? Like, if there's
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: a Lacey burrowut there, you.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Could probably just Laceyville.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, plant a flag and own it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: And I then Christopher Columbus. I've always wond to Columbus something,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and no one talks about the time limitations on that.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Why can't I claim something that people already know? I mean,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: I think you to try.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Why not know why?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I know there's Jamieville's out there.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I gotta get a flag. I don't have the flag.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's easy. We got FedEx, can go print easy? Yeah,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: we get easy. This is light work. So James moved
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to an expensive suburban like area a couple hours away
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: in northern New Jersey, but he stayed close with Paul
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: and donated often to the wrestling team. So he's the
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: big money in paul'sborough. There's Paul, who's the hometown hero,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and then there's money bags James.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I just love the top full criminal picture, full like
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: what have I done?
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Like the shadow of the light. Yeah, he got the criminal.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Edit if I ever am in that kind of lighting,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I'm not looking into a mirror because that just feels like.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I was just like, what do you think was gonna happen?
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: He stared at his soul. Now you're going to prison.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: So Paul's plan was for them to own and operate
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the deli together as a retirement plan for Paul. Paul
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: didn't know that James was a career scammer and that
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: he had his own plan in mind. Okay, now you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: should have known when he was on Wall Street. All
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: shade to people on Wall Street. You create nothing, You
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: steal from everyone, and you ruin our lives. And I
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: don't know why we let you do it.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I and it's it gets more legal all the time,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and it seems like you can just do anything. You
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: don't need to pretend to not be doing it anymore.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: That people don't even realize yet that Elon Musk was
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: working in the government just to make sure that all
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: of our pensions are so tied up in AI that
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: when it bursts, everyone will everyone.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Will just be fucked overnight. It's so it's like part
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of the joy of listening to uh to this part
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: of scam Goddess is like, man, you used to have
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: to get creative to commit a crime. It used to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: take ingenuity.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: You know, you used to have a come up with
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: good lives. Now just tell us the truth to our faces.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no fun. It's so fun either, just like
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be stealing from you your garbage to me, Yeah.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And what are you gonna do about it? Poor?
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, I guess nothing. All right?
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Good to me? You sir? You want to get violet,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You're going to prison. I can do anything. I'll never
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: see a jail.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, it's boring. Give us something, Give us
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: a costume or something.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Give me give me a hometown international.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so father and son money bags. In two
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: thousand and six, the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority had permanently
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: barred James from working as a stockbroker for violating securities
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: laws and failing to pay a seven hundred and fifty three
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars arbitration award. Four years later, he pled guilty
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: to mail fraud after faking a financial statement to cover
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: up bad investments he made with a client's cash, and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: he served two years in prison.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Oh I bet it was a nice prison.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they had like cour and probably send it.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: He still got that money line around somewhere. Somebody's putting
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: money on his books. He's probably like cool in prison
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: because he's getting everybody ramen and shit.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm picturing like Robert Durst in prison, you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: like high thread count jumped suit. Cut it, I can't food.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, Like his joms wasn't orange, it was saffron.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh he had a statement jumpsuit. Yeah.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: So James made Paul president and CEO of Hometown and Christine,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: this is Paul's girlfriend, the baddie teacher was vice president
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: and secretary. Paul owned some shares in the company, but
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Christine did not good out ladies some money. She got glabables.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: This always happens to the woman doing their crime.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: She gets she's secretary. We're not gonna give her no shock.
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: How fuck you guys, she can do math.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: That's probably more than Wall Street guy can say.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, the math teacher should definitely get the
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: coins because she should be the math Yeah, because of
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the math.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: She's a woman in stem for crying out.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Yes See, they're always trying to underpay us overwork us
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: so and neither of them were paid a salary right
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: other than the ones they got for their jobs at
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the high school. So they're not getting paid a salary
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: from Hometown International, but they have these titles in the company.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: James brought in the key investors to get Paul's deli
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: off the ground, Peter Coker Senior, who's eighty two, and
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: his fifty six year old son, Peter Coker Junior.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Oh, father son, So they're key investors. They have the
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: same kind of like eggplant head they do.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And the same kind of like nose too. Yeah, and
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that brow, that eyebrow father to son.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That distinct lack of jawline must be hereditary.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, gorgeous taste like a thumb.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Know what, in business, these are trustworthy faces in business.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: The most boring looking white dude, you know, that's who
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: you give your money.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: To a in a sea suite. This is the most
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: handsome man in the world because.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: They still have hair. It's true, like being that old
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: and your hair is silver and you still whispering in
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the winds.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a c sweet eight.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got it going, okayt the he's like, I'm
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: sure he's partying with all kinds of hookers and blow
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: but you know, you would never know that from seeing him.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: He's so responsible.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: It is always crazy seeing a picture of the man
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: who pays you, like the first time you see you
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: never forget seeing a picture of the man who pays
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: you for the first time.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: You're like, seriously, I don't want to talk about him. Ye,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Like it's you, okay, you have houses with fileplaces, and
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I'm your little hook your house. How it's crazy.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: It's your job to make sure we never had house, and.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Then like dangling house in front of us almost almost
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: these Keys of Century twenty one, so close. So James
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: incorporated Hometown as an over the counter stock, the kind
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: of penny stock traded by Leo DiCaprio's character in The
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Wolf of Wall Street. Ok so they put it on
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the market. Is like, you know, a penny stock, very
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: low risk, great name, Hometown International. It was incorporated as
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a company in twenty fourteen and went public in twenty
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: nineteen on the OTC markets, which is like the kind
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: of smaller. It's a stock market like the NASDAQ and
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the New York Stock Exchange, but with two differences. First,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: transactions take place between two parties rather than a centralized exchange,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: making it easier to manipulate share prices. Second, the OTC
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't kick compan panies out if they break the rules. Oh,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: because it's penny socks. It was a little penny rule.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It's just like a game. It's just kind of like
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: a little okay.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like us passing the pennies back and forth. Catch. Yeah,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: why does this exist?
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: For crime?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: For crown?
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Funny crime?
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I mean the whole market is crime. So they're like,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: let's get it, let's get the means. It's like JV Yeah,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: JV Crime. I haven't made it to Varsity crime yet. Okay,
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: not on the sp.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: See if you can really fuck with someone down here,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: can you steal.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: From JB Crime and then we'll promote you Divarsity crime.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: That is kind of a Jordan Belfort did, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: And that's exactly what you see. The vision.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: So that Freedom let Hometown shareholders, including Peter Cooker Senior,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: manipulate its share price. Even though the corporation owned just
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: one deli that was losing money. It stock went up
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: nine and thirty nine percent from one dollar and twenty
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: five cents per share in twenty nineteen to twelve ninety
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: nine in twenty twenty one.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, good for them, Good for them. I wonder if
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: they were I wonder how many sandwiches they're moving at
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: this point.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Probably still five.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it might be four. That's enough money for a chair, right, Yeah, And.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: The stock prices are like the cost of a sandwich.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: So Coker Senior and Junior and James Patton who remembers
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the Washreet guy, Okay, they could buy and sell shares
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: from each other with their other show companies and drive
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: up the price based on nothing. So they were using
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: their fake companies and basically selling the thing back and
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: forth and raising the price. But it was just them
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: passing it to each other. They shifted chairs to share
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: companies and transferred other shares to family members and friends
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: who's log in details they had stolen.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Got it? Okay, what are families for?
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, it's given shamelessly. Got to steal from your family,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: but as a.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Child, but in a new identity, to manipulate exactly.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: That's so real for so many people in America. I
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: feel so bad for people who grow up and realize
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that their credit is shot because their parents have put
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: like like time Warner Cable in their name, showed you
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: were like you.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Know that rancid timeshare your problem forever forever.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, try to get out of it. But you know what,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: here you go, baby, here's the boombox that gave me
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: an eighty six hope it was worth it out. Figure
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: it out. So Hometown International had made a loan of
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars in February of twenty
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: twenty one to a shell company called Medspa vacations, which
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: tried unsuccessful unsuccessfully to market health and wellness vacations. Peter
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Cooker Senior was a large investor in med spob vacations.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, another very vague and also.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: Like kind of something and if you're jazzy, maybe it
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: could works. The girls like to get a little nip
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: and a tuck and.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Right, maybe you make a weekend of it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe you get like a light little nose
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: shop and you stay for recovery like medspob like vacations.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: To me, sounds like everybody in Miami who has those
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: like BBL halfway houses.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yes, it does sound like like where you go with
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: your boss friend after a divorce kind of thing.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the mess ball, Yeah that would be that.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: But then like yeah, you go get a procedure and
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: then you stay at this house and they you know,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: reb your booty and get you ready.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: So Hometown was also paying fifteen thousand dollars per month
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: to a consulting firm called Tyron Capital in North Carolina.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Tyron Capital was controlled and owned by Peter Coker Senior.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, so they're just paying themselves, right.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: So here's the Meatia scheme.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It's like, we're, yeah, this sounds like a lot of work.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Yes, So they're like passing money around, They're inflating their
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: own stock evaluation, and then you know, get using their
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: family and friends to create fraudulent accounts, so it seems
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: like other real people are holding this stock.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: So they weren't just paying themselves made up stock market
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: money with the scheme. They were trying to inflate the
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: value of the Deli company to make it attractive for
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: a private company to buy it, and now really liking it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I had the company's VCS.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Fuck them right, You're like, it's it's basically not a crime. Right.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: You have so much money that you don't know what
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: to do with it, so you go buy things that
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: you don't need and you rip them to shreds.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: And one hundred million dollars stinky Deli amazing.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: So MANL J Jane, that's a name. I'm just gonna
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: call you. Jane Jane, a Hong Kong based hedge fund manager,
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: said that his firm had invested two point five million
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: dollars in hometown after Peter j brought it to his
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: attention as a good candidate for a backdoor takeover called
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: a reverse merger. So remember I was saying just a
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: second ago, these vcs who were trying to like hostile takeover,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: remember succession when they're like, we're not selling our company,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and they're like, you don't have a choice, bitch, we
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: buying it.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: There's like so many that rip it apart, like so
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: many financial and like VC terms sound like evil sex positions,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: like reverse merger.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: That's diagolical.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know I ever want to do a reverse merger.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: I don't want to do it. I actually have a
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: rule about that. I don't not until I'm.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Married Wedday night.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I would consider consider a reverse merger on your birthday,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: but even then I would take a pill before doing Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And I need a little sharp before the reverse merger.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: So it's a way for shady companies overseas to instantly
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: get a spot on the American stock market without the
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: paperwork and auditing that would happen with an IPO, which
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: is an initial public offering, if you don't know.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: So.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, at the Delhi Christine, a mathematician with the Classicals,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: and her mom were making sandwiches to sell at the deli,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: and high school students worked at the register.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, So she's doing all the horrible stuff. Yeah,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: she's doing the I mean she.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: Came from the cheese stage.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: She's doing the labor, and she's the mathematician. She's in
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: charge of all the sweaty teenage boys.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: That's probably why she was glistening so much. It was
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: probably the grease off the grills.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: Just beautiful.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So Paul, the deli owner, was overwhelmed with the paperwork
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: involved in taking a company public on the stock market,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: so he gave James his logins and East signature, and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: James a short Paul. He was on top of the
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: business side of things, so they didn't need to worry.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: So remember, Paul and James have gone back since third grade.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: They were on the same wrestling team, right, James gave
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: him the idea to make the business incorporated. Paul's like,
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: I know wrestling, and I know maybe cheese stakes, I
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: know a light principal work, the very principal work. So
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: is Paul aware of any of this at this point? No,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: he gave up his info because he was like, here's
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: my log and here's everything you do the company, corporate stuff,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna stick to being a principal, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: running detention all, you know, teaching the wrestlers, the slinglet
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and the reverse merger, right, and you run the company.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So hedge fund managers are rarely heroes and scam stories
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: very rarely. But this time around. Hedge fund manager David
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I and Horn mentioned the Deli Company in his quarterly
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: letter to clients in April twenty twenty one, pointing out
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: a large mismatch between the Deli sales and its market valuation.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: And he made some caddy comments about how the regulator
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: seems they don't seem to care. He said, David said this,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: He said, the pastrami must be amazing. Wow, Okay, right,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: why David.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's a cutaway, right.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: He was like, I may be evil, but I'm also petty,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and and he's holding the cheese stick.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: He'spenser and has like a huge classifying.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, David, David. Days after this letter, a report from
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: CNBC revealed a long list of legal problems involving people
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: connected to Hometown International. So now CNBC has picked up
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: on this because of David's petty Oh.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: My god, Paul's crashing out.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Oh and I feel like David like putting something in
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: a financial like journal or like besides jargon probably really
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: piqued the interests of these people who read the boring Manutia, Like,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: I hope y'all are staying with us. I'm trying to
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: put some jokes in here and explain things to y'all.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: But sometimes he's boring. Yeah, that's why they keep doing
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: the crime, because they're like, aren't you so bored about
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a crime? Don't worry about the crime because it's boring.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: When someone makes the crime sound boring. I mean, there's
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: some people who are real artists. Yeah, in terms of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's how you get terms like reverse merger
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: where you're like, hmm, okay, scam artis then then they're
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: called So if you see the word pastrami, you're like, wait,
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I'm back, Hey, I'm back.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Let me lock it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I needed
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to be like X's and note like in the black
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: in the red, you know, yeah, it needs to be
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: boring stuff. Yeah, that's how you get away with crime.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Guys make it so more.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: It's so exhausting.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So the lawyer Greg Jacqueline, who originally filed the documents
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: for the company's first stock offering in twenty fifteen. Was
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: disbarred in twenty twenty after pleading guilty to running a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: fraudulent shell factory scheme involving taking sham companies public then
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: selling them all right, so he had to go to jail.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: One of Hometown's largest shareholders, Peter Cooker Senior, had been
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: accused of various crimes, from embezzlement to fraud, too indecent
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: exposure in front of miners. Oh lord, oh okay, well
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: he's back, Peter. Fuck you.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: I was on your side for a little bit. What okay?
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: You just admitted to society. It's like all of it.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: That's why we don't have a picture.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Of him where you can.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: See his eyes.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. And I don't want to look at those.
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Reporters started calling Paul Marina and showing up at the
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: deli to try the one hundred million dollar cheesecake. Cops
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: staked out the restaurant to make sure the situation didn't escalate.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Paul freaked out, hired lawyers, and stopped talking to James Patton.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: When James called or showed up at the high school,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: to talk to Paul. Other teachers turned him away. The
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: hedge fund newsletter was the end of their friendship. This
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: is a long friendship. These there are not young men
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: and they met in third grade in a tiny, tiny
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: town too.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: That's God.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: And I love that Paul is the people's champ so
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: much that he knows the James knows Paul's gonna be
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: at the high school when he shows up, you know,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: like miss Suzan from Social Studies, She's like, Nah, bitch,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you're not kidding me.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, there is no one like who
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: is more like, we'll defend you with your life. If
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: you're on their good side, then the like front desk
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: secretary out of school. If they're on your bad side,
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: your life as hell. If they're on your good side,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: you are bulletproof. It is like they will fight for you.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: The stapler's flying. They are her strongest soldiers.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: They really are.
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: So it's like, nice, I'm kind of ready for Paul.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: So this is their friendship. But it's not the end
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of the con Scarce God so Bioplastics merger. Despite the
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: public shaming, the company stock value barely changed because everybody
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: who is involved in this. Even the people reading it
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: are like, yeah, well we do crime. We like to
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: learn about other people's but we all kind of do
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: a crime diet crime. Right, So the company stock barely changed.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: It shares we're trading as high as fourteen fifty apiece
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: before it was downgraded to a lower class of stocks
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: that are called pink sheets. OTC Markets labeled it with
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: skull and crossbones, which basically warns users not to buy
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: or sell this stock. But it didn't take the stock
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: off the market.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Why what's the point? It's so fait. It reminds me immediately,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I hate that this is where my mind went. But
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: it reminds me of there is on the menu at Margaritaville.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: They have a similar kind of vibe where they'll like
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: label things in a way that is like, do not
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: order this, but we do carry it. There was like
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: there used to be a symbol. I haven't been in
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: a while, but there was once a symbol that was
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: like that meant this is more sodium than you should
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: eat in an entire day. And it's just like basically
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: a skull and crawl are like you can order it,
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: but it'll kill you.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Don't say we didn't tell you, so yeah, we start
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: grabbing your chest.
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, you ordered the skull and Crossbones like groovy salad. Yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: Also, here's a defibrillator comes with the meal. Oh goodness,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: just take it off the menu.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: These stocks, it's like Dave's note chicken. They have like
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: the Reaper, which is like the highest, like most painful
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: chicken ever. You have to sign a little document to
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: buy it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: But it's like you have the performance of that.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: The Panera lemonade that kills you.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Panera lemonade that kills you. I just still
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: get it. I thought you was still did it. I
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: think you can still Yeah, Like, hey, it could kill you,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: so don't drink a lot of it. They just have
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: like a skull and crossbones. Now we have to fix this.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: This is America, baby. Yeah, but we just told you
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: it could so you can't sue us. So, best case scenario,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: we might tell you it could kill you, because the
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: worst case scenario, we won't, which is typically what we do. Yeah.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: So James removed Paul and Christine from their corporate roles
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: at the company in twenty twenty one, and they obviously
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: weren't showing up to make sandwiches anymore, but James needed
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: to keep the deli running until he could complete the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: reverse merger, so he hired his brother in law and
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: his niece to help out. They found the deli had
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: been abandoned the day that David's email had went out.
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: So the day that David's likes email went out about
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: like this deli better have a good postrami sandwich and whatever. Fuck,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and all the reporters showed up and everything, like Katherine
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Christine got all the wrestlers. She was like, boys, get
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: your sling lit.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Everybody get out of here.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: We're going through the bags. One like they left the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: grill on. They was out.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Good for them. They're like, we don't. And also if
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: we don't have a good pastrami sandwich, we don't news.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's why they left. There were like we cannot
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: prove this to them. We can't. It's bad.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: We sell five sandwiches a week. Do you think it's good?
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: I mean he's constantly going back because we only sometimes sandwiches. Yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: I under did. I love that. So they were out
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of there. So they found that. So James's sketchy ass
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: family found that the deli was abandoned. There was old
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: food left in the fridges that had gone back, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: after one month of James slinging cheese steaks himself, he
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: had to get on the girl. That's how much he
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: wanted the scam to work. Hometown Incorporated completed our Hometown
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: International completed a reverse merger with Machamer, which is a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: private bioplastic startup in Los Angeles, and they did this
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. So they did. They did achieve
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: their goal. But you know, James had to get on
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the girl. Honestly, I kind of respect him for getting
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: on the girl.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: It's kind of performance art at that point.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, he was like, I'm a flip.
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: Tell me twice I mentioned he looked just like you
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: were doing this. Fuck. I love that. I love that
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: for them. So they changed the company's name to Mockermer Holdings,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: but the stock still trades its Hometown International because that's
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: a brand. At this point, nobody knows Mockamer. No, No,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: they're cut down. So the deli was sold and then
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: shut down the same year. The goal was achieved, at
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: least for James. Paul Marina is still the principal and
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: head coach, of the wrestling team at Paulsborough High School.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: Christine Lindenmouth is still a math teacher. At least Paul
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: still has his wrestling legacy. Hopefully they have like a
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: pension for you know, yeah, I'm sure he's good.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I'm sure their book and now it's like this is
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: just going to be a fascinating obituary one day. I know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: it's like you got some good footnotes.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, Paul was smart. He find like somebody who
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: you know writes books and like, tell your story, Paul,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, start from wrestling.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Really they bring us in there, really tell us his story.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So the criminal charges. James Patten did end up having
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: to plead guilty to security spraud in twenty twenty three,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and the Kocher's plalled guilty in twenty twenty four. I'm
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: mad they were out of jail longer, especially mister bad
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: touch y'all should have been gone, like multiple reasons, get
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: you a weird ass out of here, nasty bitch. So
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: sorry that sho pissed me off. So Pete Junior had
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: been hiding in Thailand before this is Peter Coker Junior.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: He had been hiding in Thailand. Before he was extradited
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: to New Jersey. Their lawyers argued that no one actually
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: lost money in the scheme, even though it was illegal,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: but the judge decided that investors who didn't know about
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the shell game had lost nearly five million on it,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: including investments by Duke and Vanderbilt universities.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Oh wow, I didn't.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Know universities were buying.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Stocks investing in I know. It's like so scary to
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: think about where tuition money goes. Like you were, you
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: invested my tuition money in.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: A in penny stocks, in penny stocks. Cool, that's all
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I mean. Tuition is so expensive, and college used to
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: be free, and then black people started going to college,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: It became really really exac a picture most people.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: Hating black people. Uh huh. And then they were like,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: why weren't we charging for this before? Education being free?
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Helping people keep raising the press.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Like in telling people that they can't work without being
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in debt, and me.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Your teachers like wearing t bou because they're paid twelve
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: dollars Like it's it's.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Shit, it's just so pizza. Senior. Nasty Man was sentenced
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to six months in jail six months of home confinement
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: and a five hundred thousand dollars fine and up to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: six hundred and forty four thousand dollars in restitution. I
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: don't like that there's a fine here, right, that should
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: just be restitution. Give the money back to the people
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: who are scam Why the government like it also run
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: those five hundred thousand because of where I went through,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Because Uncle Sam really was the biggest victim of all.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: It was really hard for us to look at that
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: PISTROMI yeah, we're gonna need half a million dollars in
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: damages for looking at that pistrum.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: Daddy government, Naddy government has a tummy ache.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: Five hundred thousand dollars worth of thumbs.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: He's like what we're passing around the opun shaking the can.
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: It was five on a K, no good lord.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: So he was released from a prison in North Carolina
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: in November of twenty twenty five. Peter Cooker Junior was
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: sentenced to forty months in prison, including credit for time
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: served during his extradition. So while they were extraditing him,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I guess he had to chill in some like along
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the way prisons, Okay, So they gave him some credit
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: for that. And then he became a citizen of Saint
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: Kitts and Nevis.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he's an upstanding citizen and doing lot for
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: his community.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: They do have an extradition policy though, so he better
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: watch out. He better not be trying to do crime
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: over there. Okay, but I'm sure he's on the beach
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: trying to seale people saying.
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say he's selling loose SIGs on the
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: beach to kids.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Kids, Okay, Jimmy. Overall thoughts on this scam, the Deli scam.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I I'm surprised that we got out, Like
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: still rooting for Paul. I'm kind of like Paul and
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Christine right, like they're when.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: The outstanding citizens of the community who were looking for.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: A retirement plan, and it's like the kind of it's fun,
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: the kind of scam where you're like, what's the lesson?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Never trust your friend, like I guess, never trust your
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: friend that started working on Wall Street.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, maybe, and also your friends that you didn't hear
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: from for two years because they were in prison and
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: can't work on Wall Street anymore. Right, that's not the
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: guy to maybe make a financial investment with.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: No the gen X men are fascinating to me in
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: this way, the way that they maintain their friends. I mean,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: I guess you can like older men can have a
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: close friend they don't talk to for two years.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they had friends that they don't talk to
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: when they're present with them. That's like a like a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: man thing where they like they'll be like come home
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: to their wife and they be like, oh, Tommy got divorced,
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: and your wife will be like, why what happened? I
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: just got divorced? Like what do you mean?
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: You should thrilled that we spoke?
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: We were playing basketball. He was like, they're taking the
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: kids and yeah, I didn't ask where.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: God, I don't know. I wonder what happened to the deli.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Is it just it's just abandoned.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Wow, it's too bad because it seems like this community
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: could really use a good sandwich shop.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, these two miles, where are you gonna get
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: a sandwich? You would have thought it would have been
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: on it Papa, because it's the only sandwich place.
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: You could go exactly exactly.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: I hope for them that eventually they get a new
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: set of chairs and you.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: Can't go to hometown deli where the hell can.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: You go in this.
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: Unbelievable Yes, he got the sandwich has gotta be cheap
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: because the furniture is sourced from you know, the street,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: or some of them may be brought from the school.
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: It seems like I hope that the rage that Paul
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: carries he's channeled into his coaching. Yeah right, and that his.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Team actually more championship levels of access could lose.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Paul's got something to prove, you know, like you gotta
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: be kept sharp forty years into your coaching career. You
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: gotta get skimmed by your lifelong friend who inflated the
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: value of your shitty deli, and now you're like, we
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: need to achieve greatness today today.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: That's probably something he's like inspiring the kids with.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Like you think this is something like you NBC met.
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: I love this feels so I I dated a high
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: school wrestler in high school. To be I just realized
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: what that sounded like?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: What I what I too? In high school? You dated
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: a high school high school?
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: I dated one of the wrestlers and the I I, honestly,
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to the high school wrestling coach, and
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: it's like it's an aura thing you know where it's
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: like they've always gotten outside hobby and I respect that,
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: but sometimes it's your criminal friend. I don't know. I'm
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: rooting for the team.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I'm rooting for Paul's also like wrestling feels like kind
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of a scammy sport. I wrestled for a little bit
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: and my mom was just like, you can't do that.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: It's not a lady, Like.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: That is an incredible horror drop. Are you kidding?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: I think the underlying thing there was like, you can't
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: be a lesbian, Like that's too late, bitch. That's why
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: I try the whole time? Was this in high school?
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's so cool. Yeah, I did a lot of
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: random sports. I just wanted to get out of the
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: house and the only way I could get out of
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: the house is if I was in a sport or
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: after school like something. So I was. I was a cheerleader,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I was class president. I played volleyball. I tried to
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: play basketball. They said, no, you're terrible. It's just like, okay, fine,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: I ran track. I wrestled. Oh my god, they had
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: it going on.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I'm over your fucking twiddling my thumb's playing the obo
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: like a fucking Dork's amazing and.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: That's why you're missing. Okay, So before I let you go, Jamie,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: we are going to do this episode a Scammer of
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: the Week. I guess I'm not gonna leave you guys hanging.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I know, we got to it real quick here, So
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Scammer of the Week, We're gonna give you guys a
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: little update from the little in Paris. Okay, yeah, in
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Pali so and things are not going well over there.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: In this update at the world's largest museum, have they
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: found the crown jewels that were stolen in the bold
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: heist that happened octobers ago.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: No, Well, but new crimes are happening, right, more art gruds?
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, So investigators uncovered a ten year, twelve million
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: dollar ticket scam involving bribes of museum employees, tickets reused
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: multiple times per day, and groups of tourists being split
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: up to avoid paying an extra fee. Great good for them, honestly,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I love this. Yeah, it seems so good so far.
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I'm just upset that when I visited the Louver no
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: one roped me into the scam, because I would have
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: loved to tick it scam right, Yeah.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: It's I feel like with any time I hear about
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: any kind of museum theft, Like, first of all, all
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: museums should be free to go to because they're full
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: of stuff that was stolen. Anyways, Yes, nine times out
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: of ten.
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: It's like, look at the ship we stall, but it's okay,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: we stall it because look, we put it in glass
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: and we put it a light on it.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Like best case scenario, it's a criminals gallery and you're
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: just like, okay, so why am I paying you to
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: look at your crime? Ute committed? So I hope, yeah,
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: They don't get them back back to my Columbus question
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: just for me, Okay, how much do I have to
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: steal and display for it to become a museum?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I feel like the bar is always lower than
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: you think.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, always lower.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: There's some have you ever been to, like a like
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: a tiny museum. I love a tiny.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I know about tiny museums.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, there's like when I went to It's it's the
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: unlicensed McDonald's museum on Route sixty six and it's a McDonald's,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: closed down McDonald's full of happy Meal toys and it's
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: run by some guy and you're like, of course it's
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: a museum. Why not the bunny Museum in Altadena? Rip
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: like just a married couple that that we're obsessed with
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: bunnies and it's and sometimes they get oh, you know,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: sometimes you're like, where's the line? Yeah, but it's a museum.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: See, I want to do that. But like with robbery,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you should do the sam
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like this comes from the stick up of ninety four.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: It's like that would be amazing.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah too. And you can borrow from the collection from
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: time to time. And by borrow, I mean I borrow
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: it to where it places, but then I put it
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: back in the museum and far.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: And part of the novelty of the scam Museum is
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: that employees look the other way and are welcome to
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: take bribes where people go. Absolutely, that sounds incredible. Yes,
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: I would like to be on the board, unpaid and
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: then find out that it is being used for one
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: hundred million dollar scam.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, But I wouldn't do dirty like that. Okay,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: we're friends, Okay, I would let you know I'm doing
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: cry with it. Okay, you can get out as soon
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: as the gist, but I'll pay you to then check
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: is up.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: I have to get my wrestling team out of that.
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: You gotta go. The wrestling team is the docents. And
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: and also I want people to bring things on loan.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: If you stole something too hot to boost and then
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the Robberty Museum for a little while, it'll appreciate some
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: value and then we can sell it to an art collector.
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: Z other bees.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I mean a lot of things from the lou I'm
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: sure belong in the scam museum. You know they should
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: be on loan.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have all some things to me, okay, especially
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: like you know those celebrity events where then they're wearing
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: like the Hope diamond. But it has to like go
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: back to the museum. It's like, isn't that us just
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: taking the crime and wearing it and then putting a back.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: It's a lateral move. Yeah, I just don't know how
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: much time. How much time has to pass for me
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to make my own museum.
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: You can do it.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: So.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: Police arrested nine people in this case, including two museum employees.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: It's investigations suggested that for the past ten years, a
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: scamming network of Chinese tour guides had been bringing in
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: up to twenty groups of people per day to both
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: the Loo and the palace. Over side, they seized more
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: than one million dollars in cash and more than five
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars from bank accounts related to the scam.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: The money was invested in real estate in France and Dubai.
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: Oh well, and if that wasn't bad enough for the
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: museum that's always getting robbed at this point, I know
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: the Love is a part of it. Maybe it was
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: getting too hot and they were like, okay, we got
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: to turn a million because pr strategy. Come to the Love.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: See all the blazes we've been robbed. I'm sure they
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: turned in the exhibits that the you know, original October
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Heights happening into another exhibit.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: You can you can do an excellent move audio tour here.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: It's everywhere we've been robbed.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: Over here is they broke in here, they took us
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: for lattice. Here we never got this crayon back. The
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: monent Lisa, she only a bad bitsh because the man
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: who framed her took her and then he got her
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: back and then now she a baddy. We know her
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: smile like that great, but you know you want to
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: see you Yeah, they should let me do like a
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: layman's term, like it's not as boogie. But I'm just
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: telling you the things that were.
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: So that's what people need to know.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: That's all they need to know. And also, unfortunately for
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the Hoof, two water leaks have been reported since the heist,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: and one gallery preemptively closed after officials found weaknesses and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: it's ceiling beams. That's not a crime, but it's not
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: good either. And I feel like they didn't find the
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: weaknesses because they were like, it's time for us to
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: do an inspection. I feel like a beam fellow somebody, Okay,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you think they're they're doing a cover up, because like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: what do you mean you found weaknesses and the beams?
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Clearly you guys don't look at your you don't even
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: have up to date security cameras. There are so many blackouts.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: You're telling me now, y'all knocking on a ceiling for
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: ceiling beams. No, some fellow somebody, Yeah.
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: It's that, or it's someone planning a sting to be like, oh,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: this gallery is gonna be closed down. No, don't love
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: the art.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, we can do construction around art. Leave
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: the jewels. Close the jewel brings us to the end
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: of such a fun episode. Jamie, thank you for returning
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: back to the church. Is always always a pleasure. Always
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: got a scam. Now, how would you like to be found?
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Things that people can look forward to that you're bringing
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: into the world anything, Yeah, well.
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my first book, raw Dog, you can get anywhere. Uh.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: And then my first novel is called The Tower. It's
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: about a woman who I guess she is kind of
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: pulling a scam in some ways. She's a she's an
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: architect who designs and falls in love with her own building. Okay,
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: and spends twenty years tricking a rich family into making
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: the building for her so she can have sex with it.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: So kind of this is beautiful.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: She's a member of the congregation, okay, Yeah, yeah, listen.
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Better to have a building in a man and you.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Know, and that is very much her standpoint.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: That's like the bear and a man in the woods.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: It's like the building in a man and like, yeah,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: I'm go'na have the building. The building's never gonna leave me.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: The building loves me. The building has also most buildings
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: have better personalities than most men.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so much to be indulged with in the building. Okay.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, that's the Tower and it comes out in June,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: but you can pre order it now amazing.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, and Congregation if you want to get into my stuff,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: scam Goddess, the book sold wherever books are sold, and
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: the audiobooks which I read if you want to hear
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: me personally talk about my shenanigans. It takes like seven
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: hours to do an audiobook, and what they don't tell
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: you's a burp a lot, super weird and then sometimes
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: you cry it was. It was a strange, beautiful experience.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: But you can get into that as well. Am I
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: selling it? I think so? Scam goddus on who first
• 1:00:33
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• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: in the comments, fight them, fight them for me for fun.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: You know, figure out where their deli is and start
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: making some suspicious calls.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: Yes. Also, yeah, write a nasty article about their place
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• 1:01:05
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• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: I'm on the edgemacy, Stay wrestling, Stay wrestling with them, crime,
• 1:01:19
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• 1:01:29
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