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- 0:00And to the point that they would take the Ark of the Covenant into battle as
- 0:04if it was a token of God's, you know, power.
- 0:07We'll bring this box into battle, you know, and we'll beat you Philistines.
- 0:11I really think the process of God hardening Pharaoh's heart was to make sure that this,
- 0:20that whole Exodus experience would be understood by Israel that this is a miracle. This is God's doing.
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- 0:45Welcome back to another episode of Relish. I am Roa Miller. This is Pastor Don Patterson.
- 0:50Yes, right. Yep. Got that right. Yep. Yep.
- 0:54How are you doing today, Don? I'm doing all right that's good yes we're getting
- 1:00far enough down in to june that yes i'm doing all right.
- 1:08Summer's back.
- 1:11Almost back in. Oh, man. Yeah. Time goes so quickly. Yeah.
- 1:16Yeah. So you ready for these tough questions? Oh, I have one for you.
- 1:20OK, let's do this one first.
- 1:22Sounds good. What do you think it means to give thanks in all circumstances?
- 1:26And that's thinking of Thessalonians 5.18, giving thanks in all circumstances. Yeah. Yeah.
- 1:35I mean, it's just not taking things for granted, I think, of,
- 1:42when something doesn't go right, obviously.
- 1:47Like when I've had injuries, so like in injuries in sports, then it makes you,
- 1:54thankful for being able to play that sport when you are healthy.
- 1:59When you are healthy, yeah. Like.
- 2:04Yeah, I guess I'm struggling how to say it here, but yeah, just not taking things
- 2:09for granted and you don't, you don't truly,
- 2:14miss something or you're not truly thankful for something until you're,
- 2:18until you don't have it. Exactly. So.
- 2:21Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So it's an awareness kind of thing. Yeah.
- 2:28And you're so young. you'll have some other experiences. Yeah, I'm sure.
- 2:35Alrighty. Um, how did the Roman rule allow the early church to expand so fast? Oh, okay.
- 2:45Well, that almost goes back to this question. Give thanks for all things in all circumstances. Uh,
- 2:52It's unique. It's interesting that the Christ experience, that's meaning his
- 2:58coming to earth when he did, not 25 years earlier or 25 years later,
- 3:05uniquely fits in that timeframe where Rome was actually...
- 3:11And even though it was.
- 3:15Made everybody subject to it, you really didn't have any rights unless you were
- 3:20a Roman citizen, which Paul could boast of.
- 3:23And that really worked in his advantage, you know. Got him out of a couple of
- 3:26situations. And so it came at such a time they were building roads.
- 3:30They made sure the commerce system was fluid. They had a commerce language.
- 3:37They actually created ways that the gospel could move quickly over long periods. And it's amazing.
- 3:46During that period of time, before Nero got in there and got crazy and things like that,
- 3:53during that time that Christ lived and died and the apostles began,
- 3:59the church began, and then in chapter eight, it dispersed.
- 4:03Even that, I think, was preordained that in Acts chapter eight,
- 4:09because of the persecution levied on Stephen, and what Paul then would do would
- 4:15drive a lot of the Christians out of Jerusalem and they would take the gospel with them.
- 4:22And they would take them on roads. I mean, there was a lot of ability to get
- 4:27from one place to another just because of the road system.
- 4:30If that's just the one thing you take from what the Romans brought to civilization
- 4:35that helped drive the gospel, the roads. Yeah, you can now travel anywhere. Exactly.
- 4:42Quickly, so. Exactly.
- 4:44The second thing would be the language.
- 4:47So our New Testament is written in Koine Greek which was a language that was
- 4:53understood I mean even to this day is understood within the Greek dialects and uh.
- 5:01Is understood, it's translated, it's easily to move into Latin or other, like a German. Yeah.
- 5:09Those dialects that grew out of the Greek roots.
- 5:14Okay. So that all happened because Rome conquered the Holy Land.
- 5:23So here this terrible thing, and the thing that the Jews were mourning about,
- 5:29but was actually a vessel that would help move the gospel out of the Holy Land
- 5:36and into the whole rest of the world.
- 5:38I mean, we have Thomas going as far as India.
- 5:41Yeah. And how'd that happen? Because of the way Rome had influenced the world,
- 5:49and how things were moving.
- 5:55So did I answer the question? I believe so.
- 6:00I'm sorry, there was a couple of rabbit trails I got on there.
- 6:06But such a negative thing, such an oppressive system, actually became the means
- 6:12by which the gospel got as far as it did so quickly.
- 6:16Because within 100 years, it had gone through three continents,
- 6:22touched three continents. And that's amazing. Yeah.
- 6:26And they have this. That's God. That's God at work. Since it was all the Romans,
- 6:32they have this protection from,
- 6:36within the Roman Empire, that safety from the other nations. That's true.
- 6:43It was brought and protected, and then Nero comes, and then things get a little
- 6:50dicey at that point. Right.
- 6:54Mm-hmm. Good question. What is the difference between the Sadducees,
- 6:59Pharisees, Essenes, and Zealots? Hmm.
- 7:03Okay. Well, the Sadducees and the Pharisees were part of the Sanhedrin,
- 7:07so they were like political parties, if you will. Okay.
- 7:10The Pharisees were more conservative to the letter kind of folk,
- 7:17and they believed in the resurrection.
- 7:20That's why when you get to Acts chapter 3, no, Acts chapter 4,
- 7:27it's the Sadducees that bring.
- 7:33Peter and John before the Sanhedrin, not the Pharisees.
- 7:38Pharisees agreed with them on the resurrection. But the Sadducees were not sad,
- 7:42or sad, you see. Yeah. Sad, you see.
- 7:45And so they did not bring that on. So they were a more progressive,
- 7:50if you will, group, maybe more tied to Rome and just want to just keep everything cool.
- 7:58They would be more, let's see, they would be more the kind that would say,
- 8:04it's our religion, maybe not our faith.
- 8:08And so it's a little bit more of that. Well, yeah, there'd be a tradition to
- 8:13it. They just wouldn't...
- 8:16Be quite so rigid in their understanding of the Old Testament, the Talmud. Yeah, yeah.
- 8:23And so they'd be more fluid, you know, it's all right. This is all under the
- 8:28Jewish umbrella. After Sanhedrin, yes.
- 8:31And so then the Essenes actually were sort of a religious group,
- 8:37separate, and they actually had established a community in Qumran that would.
- 8:46They held scripture to very important, very high.
- 8:53They actually were the ones that, knowing that there was persecution coming,
- 9:00they sealed, especially the books of Isaiah and some other parchments in clay
- 9:06jars and put them in caves.
- 9:09We would discover them in the 1950s. they would be called the Dead Sea Scrolls.
- 9:14And the Essings are the ones that kept that.
- 9:18John the Baptist was actually out of the Essing community, had training in the
- 9:23Essing community, and they were the ones that held baptism so high.
- 9:29And that's how John the Baptist sort of got his background in baptizing people.
- 9:34They, I mean, they baptized for sin all the time.
- 9:39That was their mode. Yeah. Baptized for the forgiveness of sins.
- 9:44And that's the message that John would carry from the wilderness,
- 9:48in the wilderness. And that's where he would baptize Jesus.
- 9:53Now the fourth group, zealots. Oh, the zealots. Okay.
- 9:58They would also be outside the Sanhedrin for surely.
- 10:03But they were carrying,
- 10:07they were armed, they were armed,
- 10:12what do you call them? Mercenaries, I guess you would. That would make sure
- 10:17that at any point they could take a Roman down, they would.
- 10:20Wow. If they wouldn't have to pay a price for it. And,
- 10:25Barabbas would have been a zealot. And he had already murdered some Romans and,
- 10:31they weren't really happy letting him go, but that's what the crowd wanted.
- 10:36And yeah, so So they were murderous, cantankerous.
- 10:45So when you take that in mind and remember that Simon was a zealot and was one
- 10:51of the disciples, can you imagine how spicy conversations were around the campfire of an evening?
- 10:56Because you had Simon the zealot there and you've got Matthew, the tax collector.
- 11:04That doesn't go well. And here, Jesus had chosen these people to be around his inner core,
- 11:15in the midst of this political environment. Right.
- 11:19He would always be taken to task by the Pharisees and Sadducees.
- 11:23But if you read the text carefully, you'll notice that when it comes to resurrection—,
- 11:31It's the Sadducees that bring the question, okay, so this man dies and he leaves a widow.
- 11:40And the widow marries the brother. And the widow marries the next brother.
- 11:44That's the Sadducees guys that bring that question because they don't believe
- 11:49in the resurrection. So they don't believe any of it. Right.
- 11:53And so that, yeah, it's just interesting. When you know that in the background,
- 11:59then you start reading these interactions between the Sadducees,
- 12:02the Pharisees, and Jesus in a little different light. Yeah.
- 12:07I think it'd be so interesting to go back in that time and,
- 12:14try to understand the mind of the Sadducee, for example, who is on the earth
- 12:21when Jesus was crucified, killed, put in a tomb.
- 12:25Why doesn't he understand? He was up and is walking again. Yeah.
- 12:31Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I really think that's why in chapter four,
- 12:34they have such a hard time. Yeah.
- 12:38But yeah, it's sad, you see, that none of them saw Jesus after he was raised
- 12:45from the dead. We don't have any Sadducees seeing Jesus. Yeah.
- 12:51That would, yeah. I probably would have taken care of that problem.
- 12:58Yeah, we have Nicodemus, you know, and guys like that, but they're Pharisees.
- 13:07They believe in resurrection. Mm-hmm.
- 13:12Yeah. Good question. Provocative question. Yeah.
- 13:18Back to the Old Testament. Kind of been jumping around, but...
- 13:21It's all right. Why does the Lord harden Pharaoh's heart when Moses is going to set his people free?
- 13:27I really think the process of God hardening Pharaoh's heart was to make sure,
- 13:36that whole Exodus experience would be understood by Israel.
- 13:42That this is a miracle. This is God's doing. They can't take any credit for it.
- 13:47Yeah. And I think hardening Pharaoh's heart each time he does it.
- 13:54And there's a couple of times he sir waivers, you know, and then he gets hard again.
- 14:01I think it's to help us understand that God is in control.
- 14:08God's got ultimate power, ultimate authority.
- 14:12And by him, God, hardening Pharaoh's heart,
- 14:19it became an example that God's going to do exactly what needs to be done to
- 14:24make sure that this honor, this glory doesn't go to Moses,
- 14:31and it doesn't go to Pharaoh, but it's all God.
- 14:37I think that's why even to this day among the Jews, they talk about the Passover
- 14:42and what God passed over that night, and then the exodus itself.
- 14:51Because it wasn't Moses that did it. He was an instrument, and it's happening,
- 14:57but he didn't do it. Yeah.
- 15:00But then even later, like when they're in the wilderness and like Israel just
- 15:05as a nation after that, and when they're struggling and like God keeps trying
- 15:12to bring them back, like,
- 15:14am I not the one that brought you out of Egypt?
- 15:17He always references that. And that's like part of his identity too.
- 15:21It is. And what's interesting is they keep forgetting. Yeah.
- 15:25I mean, we're going to study, we just finished studying Samuel 3 and 4 and 5 and 7 and.
- 15:35They're so fast to forget. It doesn't seem that many generations,
- 15:38but all of a sudden they don't,
- 15:43remember God anymore and what God had done in the Exodus. Now,
- 15:47they're totally oblivious.
- 15:49Yeah. And to the point that they would take the Ark of the Covenant into battle,
- 15:54as if it was a token of God's power.
- 15:58We'll bring this box into battle, you know, and we'll beat you Philistines. And evidently, huh. Oh.
- 16:05They were believing in the box more than they believed in God.
- 16:08I think God made the right call. I think he did. I think he made the right call.
- 16:12And it becomes a lesson to us, doesn't it, in what we do today?
- 16:17Because it's not about us. It's about God.
- 16:20It's about what he's wanting to do through us and in us and in our communities
- 16:25that we're a part of. It's not about us.
- 16:30We become vessels, tools, if you will, through which God can manifest himself,
- 16:37and make things happen. Yeah. I believe in miracles.
- 16:41I'm not splitting any, I mean, I wouldn't even walk up to a swimming pool and
- 16:45think I could split it. No.
- 16:49Much less try to walk on it. No, I'm not going a walk on it either.
- 16:53And because that's not who we are.
- 16:56But if God chooses to manifest through us, hey, that's all right. Yeah.
- 17:05Yeah. It's good. I just, I think the hardening of Pharaoh's heart was to make
- 17:14the miracle so dynamic, people could not deny it.
- 17:19Of course, they'd forget it. You know, that's past tense. Right.
- 17:24Sort of like people treat the Bible today. Well, that's old stuff.
- 17:29I mean, really. Right. A lot of people do treat the Bible like it's old stuff
- 17:33instead of something that speaks into our lives, even in here and now. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
- 17:41Alrighty. Well, I think we exhausted those questions.
- 17:45I'm exhausted. Yeah.
- 17:49Thank you guys for joining us. Let us know if we need to go a little deeper
- 17:53into some of these questions. Yeah, and we're talking about how can we go deeper here in the future?
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- 18:13Thank you, Don, as always. Thank you guys for joining us and we'll see you next
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