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Woman Hired Hitmen to Kill Her Boyfriend's Ex-Brother-in-Law · Murder Files Unsealed

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Speaker 1: On paper. I mean, Charlie Aedelson was a guy who basically.
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Speaker 2: Had everything right, Yeah, everything.
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Speaker 1: He was this really wealthy, highly successful periodontists. He lived
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in this luxury condo down in South Beach, drove a Ferrari,
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and he had this thriving career totally wrapped up in
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the protective bubble of his prominent, affluent family.
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Speaker 2: Exactly a total bubble.
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Speaker 1: So the question you have to ask yourself when you
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look at this case is why, Like why on a
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random Tuesday in Miami was his mother fielding extortion demands
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on the street from a man who was claiming to
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be a Latin King's gang leader.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it is the ultimate collision of two
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completely entirely separate universes totally. When you look at the
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raw data of this case, you are looking at this
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ecosystem of extreme privilege and it's just crashing head on
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into the violent, you know, cash and carry reality of
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the criminal underworld. Right, And what connects those two worlds
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isn't not some complex international syndicate. It's literally digital told
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booth records, wiretap phone calls, and I mean just thick
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stacks of cash that are literally stapled together which is
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just wild. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So today we are taking a deep dive into this sprawling,
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multi year true crime saga. We're pulling from an extensive,
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really highly detailed investigative transcript and attracts a conspiracy that
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spans over a decade, a full decade, right, and we're
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starting with a bitter family divorce that finalized back in
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twenty thirteen, and we are going to follow every single digital, financial,
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and psychological breadcrumb right up to this massive, high profile
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murder conviction in the summer of twenty twenty five. It's
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quite the journey, it really is. So our mission for
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you today is to map exactly how a wealthy family
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of Florida dentists managed to orchestrate a contract killing, and
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I guess, more importantly, how the modern world's digital footprint
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just made it totally impossible for them to get away
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with it.
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Speaker 2: Right, the digital footprint is key. And the victim at
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the center of this immense web was Dan Markle. He
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was a deeply respected law professor up at Floria State University.
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He was an academic, a brilliant legal mind, and a
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father of two young.
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Speaker 1: Boys, right, two little kids, and in July.
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Speaker 2: Of twenty fourteen. He was executed in broad daylight, just
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sitting in his own car, in his own driveway in Tallahassee.
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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this, Yeah, because to understand how a
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law professor ends up assassinated in his driveway, I mean,
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we can't just start on the day the trigger was pulled,
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right Yoh, not at all. The physical violence is almost
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like the very last domino to fall in this whole thing.
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To find the first one, we really have to rewind
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to the year prior to the murder. We have to
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look at the incredibly toxic foundation this entire conspiracy was built.
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Speaker 2: Upon, Yeah, which was a custody battle that just mutated
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into a total war of attrition exactly. And the word
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war is it's entirely appropriate. Here we are looking at
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the divorce between Dan Markle and Wendy Adelson, right, and
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Wendy was also a highly successful lawyer, and their divorce
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was legally finalized on July thirty first, twenty thirteen. But
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one who has studied family law, or even just human
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psychology for that matter, knows that a judge's signature on
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a divorce decree it rarely extinguishes the underlying resentment.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, usually it makes it worse, exactly.
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Speaker 2: In this case, the legal finalization only entrenched the conflict,
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and the central, unmovable battlefield was geography.
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Speaker 1: Right. The geography is a massive wedge here because you
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have Tallahassee up in the Florida Panhandle, where Dan's academic
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career is rooted, right, yes, And then you have Coral Springs,
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which is like four hundred and fifty miles away down
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in South Florida, and that is the seat of the
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Adelson family empire.
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Speaker 2: Right. It's a completely different world totally.
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Speaker 1: And Wendy desperately wanted to relocate their two young sons
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down to South Florida so she could be enveloped by
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her wealthy, tight knit family. But Dan fought that relocation
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with literally every legal tool at his disposal, and he won,
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he did. On June twentieth, twenty thirteen, the court issues
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this order explicitly denying Wendy's relocation petition. The judge actually
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forced Wendy to return to ten with the kids.
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Speaker 2: And if you look at the transcripts and the legal
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filings from that time, that June twenty thirteen order is like,
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it's the tremor before the earthquake. Wow, because a judge
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denying a relocation petition is pretty standard in family court.
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I mean it happens every single day. But the Adelson
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family did not operate in a world where they were told.
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Speaker 1: No, right, They were the ones that said no exactly.
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Speaker 2: This is a family that was profoundly enmeshed both financially
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and emotionally. Yeah, you have the patriarch Harvey, who built
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this highly successful cosmetic dentistry practice. The matriarch Donna, She
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worked part time at the clinic and was just fiercely,
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almost obsessively protective of her children. Right then Charlie the son,
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he took over the periodontal side of the practice. Rob
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was a doctor, Wendy was a lawyer. I mean, they
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were a unified, impenetrable front of high achievers who were
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just used to managing their environment with total control. Right.
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Speaker 1: And Dan Markle wasn't just refusing to yield to that control.
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He was actually actively going on the offensive. Yes he was,
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because just before his death, Dan filed a petition with
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the court that struck directly at the matriarch Donna. He
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formally petitioned the court to deny Wendy's mother unsupervised contact
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with his children. Huge massive. He alleged in actual legal
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documents that Donna was actively disparaging him to his own boys,
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like he was trying to build a literal legal firewall
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between his sons and their grandmother. Right now, Dan died
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before the court could ever hold a hearing on that motion,
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But the threat was officially on paper, and.
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Speaker 2: That piece of paper that is the catalyst. When Dan
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filed that motion, he basically crossed an invisible line in
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the Adison family dynamic.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he wasn't just the annoying ACX anymore.
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Speaker 2: Right, He ceased to be just a difficult ex husband
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navigating a messy divorce to Donna, and specifically to her
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son Charlie. Dan Markle transformed into an existential threat to
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the family unit itself. Right, He was startning to sever
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the matriarch's access to her grandchildren.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I hear that, but I have to push back
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a little here. Millions of people go through absolutely brutal,
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scorched earth custody battles. Right of course, people file motions
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like that every single day in family courts all across
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the country. They fight over money, They fight over visitation,
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they hurl horrific accusations at each other. Yeah, but they
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don't hire hitmen. They just pay their lawyers more money.
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So what is the specific psychological mechanism that takes a
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wealthy family from filing a counter motion to contracting a murder?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question. It really comes down to
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the delusion of what we can call the subcontracted life.
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Speaker 1: Okay, what does that mean?
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Speaker 2: Well, wealthy, highly insulated individuals often develop this worldview where
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every single friction point in life can be outsourced and
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solved with capital.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I see right.
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Speaker 2: Your sink breaks, you hire a plumber. Your tooth decays,
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you hire a periodontist. When a family operates as a
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completely closed ecosystem, like the Atlsons did, external threat aren't
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met with compromise.
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Speaker 1: They're met with a desire for total eradication.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. Charlie and Donna Adelson had the financial means to
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solve almost any conceivable problem. Their fatal psychological flaw was
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believing that a human being a respected law professor could
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be solved in the exact same transactional way they might
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handle a nuisance lawsuit or a broken appliance.
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Speaker 1: That is, chilling right.
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Speaker 2: They thought they could just pay someone to make the
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problem disappear.
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Speaker 1: But and this is the crazy part, they don't know
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anyone who makes problems disappear like that. A cosmetic dentist
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and a periodontist do not have street level assassins in
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their country club Rolodex.
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Speaker 2: Now they certainly do not.
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Speaker 1: Which is the most baffling pivot of this entire story.
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Having established this simmering, toxic motive up in Tallahassee, we
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have to travel five hundred miles south to Miami to
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figure out how this subcontracting actually happen, Like, how does
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the capital meet the violence?
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Speaker 2: Right? They needed a bridge in criminal conspiracy terms. They
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needed a connector, okay, And that brings us to Catherine
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Megan Barah, who goes by Katie. Born in the Philippines
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in December nineteen eighty four, she eventually moves to Miami
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and just totally immerses herself in the local culture. Katie
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is the ultimate quiet connector. She is the lynchpin that
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spans this massive socioeconomic chasm between the Adelson's sterile dental
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clinics and the violent reality of the Miami streets.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's look at how Katie actually straddled those two worlds.
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Starting with the street side of things, Katie had a
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long term, incredibly turbulent relationship with a man named sik
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Fredo Garcia. They met shortly after high school. They were
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together for years. They had two kids together, born in
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two thousand and seven in twenty twelve, but they were
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never actually legally married, and their relationship was basically a powder.
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Speaker 2: Cake that total powder keg. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The investigative records detail intense, constant accusations of cheating, explosive arguments,
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and his alleged heavy drug use.
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Speaker 2: Right, it was a cycle of extreme highs and lows.
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But the catalyst for their final breakup in late twenty
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thirteen is actually remarkably mundane, which is such a fascinating
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detail in a case of this magnitude.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't a huge fight or anything.
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Speaker 2: No, it wasn't a massive blowout fight. According to Katie's
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own testimony, Garcia accidentally pocket dialed her phone.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she picked up, listened in and overheard him talking
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to a friend about another woman. For Katie, after years
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of chaos, that accidental open mic was the final straw
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She ends the relationship.
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Speaker 1: So Katie is Willie, single, she has two young kids.
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She's dealing with a volatile, jealous ex partner, and she
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needs a reset. She needs a rebound exactly, and that
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rebound literally walks into Sofi Dental in South Beach in
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the form of doctor Charlie Adelson. Right. Charlie is working
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there as a subcontractor, coming in to do specialized peridental work.
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He's wealthy, he's confident, he drives a Ferrari. He has
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this well known playboy persona. It's the exact opposite of
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the chaos she was experiencing with Garcia.
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Speaker 2: It starts as a very casual flirtation in a dental office,
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he gets her number, they start dating, but it escalates
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quickly into something way more integrated. Yeah, Charlie doesn't just
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keep Katie on the periphery of his life. He actually
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brings her inside the.
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Speaker 1: Fortress, which is huge for the Adolesons.
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Speaker 2: It is she starts going to dinners with his sister Wendy.
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She attends beach days with the Adolson family. She is
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being exposed to a level of wealth and security she
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had never experienced.
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Speaker 1: But she hasn't actually left her old world behind because
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the architecture of this love triangle is completely insane, it
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really is. During her time on the witness stand, Katie
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openly admitted that while she was dating Charlie, riding around
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the Ferrari and having dinner with his wealthy family, she
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was simultaneously still sleeping with Secredo Garcia, the volatile x
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she supposedly left right and by the summer of twenty fourteen,
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the romantic spark between Katie and Charlie starts to naturally fade,
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but they transition into close friends, and in this bizarre
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twist of irony, Charlie actually encourages Katie to get back
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together with Garcia.
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Speaker 2: Which is wild because Charlie is attempting to play the
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role of the benevolent, wealthy friend. But Secreto Garcia is
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not interested in playing along with this modern, amicable, blended
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family setup.
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Speaker 1: No, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Garcia is consumed by raw territorial jealousy. He views Charlie
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as the wealthy interloper who stole his family, and this
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rage actually boils over into physical.
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Speaker 1: Confrontation oh the road rage incident.
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Speaker 2: Exactly in July of twenty fourteen, just weeks before the murder,
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Garcia spots Charlie driving in Miami. Garcia uses his own
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vehicle to physically block Charlie's car in the street, gets
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out and starts screaming at him.
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Speaker 1: Just a total meltdown.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Charlie, avoiding the physical altercation, manages to maneuver his
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car around Garcia and speeds away.
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Speaker 1: Okay, See this is where the logic completely breaks down
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for me. It's like this bizarre corporate merger between the
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capitol the atal sins and the violent means of Carcia.
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But if Garcia hates Charlie, if he literally hates him
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enough to block his car in traffic and scream at
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him for dating his quote unng quote wifey, why on
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earth would Garcia agree to execute a contract killing for him.
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You don't commit first degree murder as a favor to
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your mortal enemy.
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Speaker 2: It defies conventional logic completely until you analyze the specific
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psychology of street level loyalty and the male ego.
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Speaker 1: Okay, unpack that.
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Speaker 2: Well, we know exactly why he did it because Luis Rivera,
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the second hit man, later testified about Garcia's mindset. Rivera
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pointed out the deep, tragic irony of the situation. Garcia's
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heart was broken. He was desperate to win Katie back.
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He didn't do the hit for Charlie Adelson. He did
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the hit for Katie.
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Speaker 1: So in Garcia's mind, he's basically proving his ultimate devotion exactly.
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Speaker 2: Garcia likely believed that by doing this massive, unimaginably violent favor,
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he was going to secure a massive financial windfall for
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Katie and his children. Wow, he thought he was proving
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his ultimate worth. He essentially outsourced his own capacity for
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violence to serve the wealthy man he despised, all in
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a twisted attempt to win back the woman he loved.
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Speaker 1: That is just incredibly tragic.
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Speaker 2: The men's mutual connection to Katie became the conduit. Charlie
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had the money and the motive. Garcia had the desperation
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and the means.
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Speaker 1: And once that bridge is built, the abstract idea of
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subcontracting a problem becomes a terrifying physical reality, which brings
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us to July eighteenth, twenty fourteen. We have to look
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at the tactical execution of this crime, because the way
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they carried it out tells you exactly who they were
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and why they eventually got caught.
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Speaker 2: Right, because to pull off the assassination Sigfedo Garcia couldn't
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do it alone. He needed a driver, someone he could trust.
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Speaker 1: Implicitly, yeah right, ah man.
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Speaker 2: So he recruits his childhood friend, Luis Rivera. Rivera is
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not a civilian. He is a documented leader in the
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Latin Kings gang. He is a man intimately accustomed to
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street level violence. Totally, just to give you an idea
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of Rivera's background. By the time law enforcement eventually arrested
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him for Dan Markle's murder, Rivera was already sitting in
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a federal penitentiary serving a twelve year sentence for an
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entirely unrelated racketeering crime.
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Speaker 1: So Garcia and Rivera, these two Miami street guys, They
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go to a rental agency and rent a light colored
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Touato Prius. They get in that Prius and make the
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grueling five hundred mile drive north from Miami up into
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the Panhandle to Tallahassee.
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Speaker 2: They are hunting Dan Markle.
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Speaker 1: Yes, they are, and the timeline of that morning is chilling,
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precisely because of how mundane Dan's routine was.
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Speaker 2: At eight fifty in the morning, they are tailing Dan's
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car as he pulls up to a local daycare to
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drop off as two young boys.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just watched the drop off. Then they follow
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Dan to a local gym. The investigative timeline shows Garcia
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and Rivera simply sitting in that rented prius in the
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gym parking lot, waiting.
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Speaker 2: Just sitting there in a prius.
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Speaker 1: They're watching the front doors. When Dan finishes his workout
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and exits the building, they fall in behind him again
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and follow him into his quiet, affluent, tree lined residential neighborhood.
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Speaker 2: The brazenness of what happens next is really hard to
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wrap your head around. Rivera behind the wheel of the
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prius Dan Markle pulls into his own driveway. Rivera pulls
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the prius and right behind him, inching uptight to Dan's
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bumper to physically block the car from reversing.
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Speaker 1: Trapping it exactly. Yeah. Dan is sitting in the driver's seat.
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He has his phone to his ear, entirely unaware of
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what's happening behind him. Garcia steps out of the passenger
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side of the Prius. He walks around the front of
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the car, steps up to the driver's side window of
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Dan's vehicle, raises a handgun and fires two shots directly
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through the glass.
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Speaker 2: In broad daylight, roughly nine am on a weekday in
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a densely populated suburban neighborhood. Yeah, they don't even bother
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to open the door. They just shoot right through the
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window barrier, and then they immediately scramble back into the
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Prius and speed off.
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Speaker 1: And it's so brazen that it actually confuses the environment.
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A neighbor hears the loud pops, but gunshots are so
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entirely out of context for this neighborhood that his brain
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registers it as a blown tire or a car accident.
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Speaker 2: Right, your mind tries to make sense of it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. He walks over to Dan's drive way, sees the
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shattered window glass, sees Dan slumped over and bleeding profusely,
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and dials nine to one one Crutually, the neighbor tells
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the nine to one one dispatcher that he noticed a
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light colored Prius backing rapidly out of the driveway right
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after the noise. Paramedics arrived. They rush Dan to the
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trauma center, but the brain damage is catastrophic. Dan Markle
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dies the next day.
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Speaker 2: It's awful, And when you analyze the mechanics of this hit,
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it reveals a classic fatal error made by street level
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criminals attempting high level contract work. Was that well hitman
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whose expertise was forged in gang violence. Often operate on
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the assumption of invisibility.
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Speaker 1: Right like if no one sees me, I wasn't there.
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Speaker 2: Exactly, They believe that if there are no eyewitnesses standing
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on the sidewalk pointing a finger at them, the crime
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didn't happen. They drastically underestimate the silent ubiquity of modern surveillance,
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digital tracking, and the invisible web of forensic technology that
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covers almost every inch of modern society.
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Speaker 1: Right, they thought they were ghosts, But ghosts don't use
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cell phones. Where it gets really interesting because the moment
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they flee that driveway, the digital bleeding starts. How does
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the money actually change hands without leaving a mass's paper trail?
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Speaker 2: The immediate aftermath is a masterclass in operational recklessness. As
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they are speeding away from Tallahassee, heading south on the highway,
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Garcia turns his cell phone back on. Unbelievable, The very
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first call he makes is to Katie Magnanua. We know
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exactly what was said because Luis Rivera was sitting in
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the passenger seat listening to the entire exchange, Garcia says
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into the phone, the job is done. Katie's voice comes
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back through the speaker, calm and collected, and says, I know.
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She then assures him that the payment will be ready the.
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Speaker 1: Next day, the payment for a human life.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The next day, Garcia and Rivera meet up at Rivera's
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house in Miami to collect the bounty. Katie delivers the funds.
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The price for the execution of a law professor is
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thirty five thousand dollars in cash. Yes, but it's the
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physical condition of the cash that it's so striking.
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Speaker 2: Yes, the staples, right, This wasn't.
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Speaker 1: A need wire transfer or a briefcase of sequential bills. Yea.
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The money was physically stapled together. Someone took a heavy
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duty stapler and drove metal staples through thick stacks of
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one hundred dollars bills, separating them into one thousand dollars increents.
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Speaker 2: And you know the staple cash is a perfect metaphor
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for the crime itself. Also, well, it is a crude, tactile,
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street level transaction that brutally contrasts with the sterilized, white
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collar world of the Adelson family.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. That makes sense.
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Speaker 2: The Adelson's deal in insurance codes and real estate wire
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transfers to physically staple cash together implies a manual, secretive
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hoarding of funds, likely pulled over time from a safe
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for a lock box to avoid triggering banking alerts.
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Speaker 1: And that contrast, the gap between the dentists and the
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Staples is the exact chasm law enforcement had to bridge.
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They have murdered professor in Kallahassee. They have a neighbor
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who saw Prius. How on earth do you connect a
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fleeting glimpse of a popular hybrid car to a Latin
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King's gang member and then to a wealthy periodontist.
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Speaker 2: It requires a level of investigative grinding that is almost
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impossible to comprehend.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it didn't happen overnight, No, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Five days after the murder, Tallahassee police release a very
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blurry surveillance photo of a vehicle of interest, a light
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colored Toyota Prias. But that photo alone doesn't solve the case.
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It takes an entire year of painstaking, tedious detective work
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to find the thread. Wow, investigators are pulling hundreds of
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hours of municipal transit footage they are cross referencing city
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bus routes with the exact time of the murder, just
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looking for a needle in a digital haystack.
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Speaker 1: And in July of twenty fifteen, a full year later,
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they find the needle. They discover footage from a Tallahassee
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city bus that happened to drive past that specific Prius.
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The video quality isn't great. You can't see the driver's face,
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you can't read the license plate. But right there, stuck
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to the inside of the windshield is a little white box,
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a sun passed hole transponder, and that.
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Speaker 2: Any piece of plastic, is the single thread that unravels
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the entire conspiracy. Law enforcement immediately subpoenas the toll records.
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They ask for the data on every single Toyota Prius
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that traveled the toll roads between Miami and Tallahassee and
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the days surrounding the murder. Those digital toll flashes lead
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them directly to a specific rental car agency down in Miami.
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Speaker 1: They walk into the agency, they pulled a rental agreement
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for that specific car on those specific dates. The name
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on the contract luis Rivera.
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Speaker 2: And this is where the hubris of the hit men
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betrays them again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they weren't exactly criminal masterminds when it came to
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the paperwork.
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Speaker 2: No, Rivera wasn't operating under a sophisticated alias with burner phones.
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On the official rental agreement, he provided his actual registered
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cell phone number. It's crazy, but it gets worse. The
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form asked for a secondary emergency contact. Rivera filled in
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a phone number and simply labeled the relationship as brother.
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Investigators run a trace on that secondary number and it
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belongs to Secreto Garcia Boom.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the car in the driveway is now definitively linked
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to two men in Miami. But the police are sitting
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there looking at the board and they have a massive gap.
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Why would two guys from Miami drive five hundred miles
21:13
to shoot a law professor. They have absolutely zero.
21:16
Speaker 2: Connection to right, they need the motive.
21:19
Speaker 1: Exactly, And the wildest part of this entire investigation is
21:22
that Wendy Adelson herself practically handed them the motive on
21:26
a silver platter on the very day of the murder.
21:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the most heavily analyzed moments
21:31
of the entire case. Well, I bet on the day
21:33
Dan Markle is shot Tallahassee police bring Wendy into the
21:36
station for a grueling five hour interrogation. You have to
21:40
remember her ex husband has just been shot in the head.
21:43
Right during this interview, Wendy repeatedly and emphatically claims that
21:47
she does not believe her immediate family had anything to
21:49
do with it, But then, completely unprompted by the detectives,
21:53
she explicitly brings up a joke made by her brother Charlie.
21:57
Speaker 1: She volunteers this. She tells the homicide detectives that her
22:00
brother Charlie, bought her a television as a divorce present,
22:04
and when the TV was having some technical issues, Charlie
22:07
made a joke. According to Wendy's own statement to the police,
22:11
Charlie said, I looked into hiring a hit man and
22:14
it was cheaper to get you this TV, so instead
22:16
I got you this TV.
22:17
Speaker 2: Which is just the psychological layers of volunteering that information
22:21
are astounding.
22:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do it?
22:23
Speaker 2: Right? Why would a highly educated lawyer sit in an
22:26
interrogation room hours after her ex husband is assassinated and
22:30
volunteer a story about her brother pricing out a hit man.
22:34
Speaker 1: It makes no sense.
22:35
Speaker 2: Well, there are several behavioral theories. The first is that
22:38
it was a genuine, subconscious slip, the extreme trauma and
22:41
anxiety of the moment forcing an inconvenient, buried truth to
22:45
the surface.
22:45
Speaker 1: Okay.
22:46
Speaker 2: The second theory is that she genuinely believed in her
22:48
family's absolute innocence, and she offered the joke as evidence
22:52
of Charlie's inappropriate, bravado filled persona. She was trying to say, look,
22:56
my brother jokes about crazy things like this, but he
22:58
would never actually do it.
22:59
Speaker 1: But I look at the third theory, which is way
23:02
more cynical but honestly makes the most sense. What's that
23:06
She knew the rumor existed. She knew her family hated Dan,
23:10
she knew Charlie had made that joke in front of
23:12
other people, So she volunteers it to the police to
23:15
get ahead of the narrative.
23:16
Speaker 2: Ah trying to control the spin exactly.
23:19
Speaker 1: She wants to frame it to the detectives as a
23:21
tasteless joke before someone else comes forward and frames it
23:24
as a literal confession.
23:26
Speaker 2: It is entirely possible it was a preemptive strike at
23:29
narrative control. But regardless of her intent, she gave the
23:33
detectives the exact name they needed to look at, Charlie Idelson, right,
23:37
And when investigators started looking at Charlie and his connections,
23:41
the financial arrogance they uncovered was staggering.
23:44
Speaker 1: It's beyond arrogance, it's just sheer logistical stupidity. I mean,
23:48
it's like committing a bank robbery and swiping your own
23:50
loyalty card on the way out. Let's look at Katie
23:53
Megbanua's life. In the months immediately following the murder. She
23:57
goes from being a single mother with a volatile X
24:00
to living an incredibly lavish lifestyle. She takes a fully
24:03
paid vacation to the Dominican Republic, She drops thousands of
24:07
dollars in cash for breast enhancement surgery. She suddenly has
24:11
high end meal delivery services dropping food at her door,
24:14
and then the absolute smoking gun of white collar hubris.
24:20
Starting in September of twenty fourteen, just two months after
24:22
the hit, Katie starts receiving bi weekly formalized paychecks from
24:27
the Adelson Institute.
24:28
Speaker 2: They literally put the middle man of a murder conspiracy
24:30
on the company payroll.
24:31
Speaker 1: Yes, they generate W two's for blood money. These checks
24:35
continue all the way through March of twenty sixteen. But
24:38
there is absolutely zero evidence, no emails, no security bad swipes,
24:42
no witness testimony the Katie mcbanue ever set foot inside
24:45
that dental clinic or performed a single hour of legitimate work. Wow,
24:49
they're paying Medicare and soul security taxes on hush money.
24:51
Speaker 2: It is a rudimentary payroll fraud scheme, just a clumsy
24:54
attempt to launder the ongoing payments required to keep Katie quiet.
24:58
But by early twenty seve sixteen, law enforcement finds themselves
25:02
in a frustrating position. They are staring at this massive,
25:07
intricate puzzle. They have the digital toll records linking the
25:12
hitmen to the prius. They have the financial payroll records
25:15
linking Katie to the addlsons. They have the custody battle
25:18
linking the Addolsons to the victim. But it's all circumstantial.
25:23
It's not enough for a jury, exactly in a court
25:25
of law against defense attorneys who cost thousands of dollars
25:28
an hour. They need to definitively prove the active, knowing
25:33
connection between these three tiers. They need to catch them
25:36
in the act of managing the conspiracy.
25:38
Speaker 1: They need someone to panic, because when people panic, they
25:41
pick up the phone. Yeah, and that leads us to
25:43
April nineteenth, twenty sixteen, and one of the most brilliant
25:46
tactical moves by the FBI I've ever seen. They execute
25:49
an operation they simply call the Bump.
25:52
Speaker 2: The bump is a masterclass in targeted psychological warfare. Ye.
25:55
Law enforcement knows they can't approach Charlie, right, he's too
25:58
savvy and will immediately call a law lawyer. They can't
26:00
approach Katie. She's already proven she can keep her mouth shut.
26:03
Speaker 1: Right, she streaks smart.
26:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the FDI targets the emotional core of the family,
26:09
the matriarch, Donna Adelson. An undercover FBI agent dressed and
26:13
acting like a tough street level enforcer for the Latin
26:16
Kings gang approaches Donna on a public street in Miami.
26:20
Speaker 1: He walks right up to this wealthy suburban grandmother. He
26:23
hands her an envelope containing an article about the murder.
26:26
He makes a vague, menacing reference to Charlie's ex girlfriend,
26:31
and he demands a massive cash payout to keep the
26:33
Latin Kings quiet about what happened in Tallahassee. Yes, he
26:36
gives her a deadline, turns around and walks away, And.
26:39
Speaker 2: The FBI is just waiting because what the conspirators do
26:41
not know is that the FBI has secured federal wire
26:44
taps on every single one of their cell phones. Oh yeah,
26:46
the moment that undercover agent disappears around the corner, the
26:49
chain of command lights up exactly how the FBI predicted.
26:53
Donna immediately dials Charlie. It goes to voicemail, but they
26:56
connect shortly after and speak for five minutes and forty
26:59
seven seconds. Moment they hang up, Charlie calls Donna back
27:02
and they speak for another six and a half minutes,
27:04
and then the critical leap. Immediately after hanging up with
27:08
his panicked mother, Charlie dials Katie meg Banua.
27:12
Speaker 1: The FBI literally maps the electrical current of the conspiracy
27:16
in real time, from the matriarch who was bumped, to
27:19
the mastermind who holds the money, straight to the middleman
27:22
who knows the gang members exactly. So let's look at
27:24
the actual transcripts of these calls. We have a specific
27:26
call logged in evidence as Call three eighteen ninety two.
27:30
Charlie gets Katie on the phone and he's trying to
27:33
speak in code, but he's panicking.
27:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's terrified.
27:36
Speaker 1: He tells Katie that some guy just approached his mom
27:38
on the street asking for money regarding his ex girlfriend. Katie,
27:43
who is much more street smart about operational security, realizes
27:46
instantly they shouldn't be talking about this. She plays dumb.
27:49
She just says, what, I don't know what you're talking about.
27:52
Speaker 2: But the restraint doesn't last. The paranoia eats away at them.
27:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, they couldn't help themselves.
27:56
Speaker 2: Later that exact same day, Charlie and Katie get back
27:59
on the phone for a staggering twenty three minute conversation
28:03
and all operational security just goes out the window. Katie
28:08
is furiously cursing, losing her mind trying to figure out
28:12
who is shaking them down, and Charlie is caught on
28:14
tape send her you're an idiot. You gave the wrong number,
28:17
which is.
28:18
Speaker 1: The most damning thing he could possibly say. Yeah, so
28:20
what does this all mean? If you are an innocent
28:23
period artist and a gang member approaches your mother on
28:26
the street and demands extortion money, you do one thing.
28:30
If you hang up the phone and you dial nine
28:31
to one one, right, you call the police, you say
28:35
someone is threatening my elderly mother. You do not engage
28:39
in a twenty three minute, expletive filled panic session with
28:42
your ex girlfriend where you accuse her of giving your
28:44
mom's address to the wrong criminal. That's just what innocent
28:47
people do.
28:48
Speaker 2: They call the cos exactly. The prosecution would later lean
28:50
heavily on this exact behavioral anomaly. Innocent people seek the
28:54
protection of the authorities. Guilty people try to manage the
28:57
threat themselves. The wire tabs beautifully captured this sheer absurdity
29:02
of Charlie's situation. Here's a man accustomed to air conditioned
29:06
offices and luxury cars utterly out of his depth, Terrified
29:10
that the violent street level reality he thought he could
29:13
just purchase and subcontract is now physically manifesting at his
29:17
mother's front door.
29:18
Speaker 1: He realized he couldn't control the monster he bought right.
29:21
Speaker 2: During her eventual trial, Katie actually took the stand and
29:24
testified that having to sit in a dead, silent courtroom
29:27
and listen to her own twenty three minute, curse filled,
29:30
panicked meltdown was one of the most deeply embarrassing moments
29:33
of her life.
29:34
Speaker 1: I can imagine, but the bump worked flawlessly. It provided
29:37
the final puzzle pieces. The FBI had the reaction they
29:39
needed on tape. The invisible connections were now solid evidence,
29:43
and now the dominoes finally start to fall.
29:46
Speaker 2: They do.
29:46
Speaker 1: But I want to make it clear to anyone listening,
29:48
the justice system is not a sixty minute television show.
29:51
It is a slow, grueling, bureaucratic machine. And for the
29:55
family of Dan Markle, the waiting was agonizing.
29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah. Justice in conspiracy cases of this magnitude moves at
30:01
a glacial pace, precisely because prosecutors have to dismantle the
30:04
conspiracy from the bottom up. The tactical arrests begin in
30:08
May of twenty sixteen. Law enforcement swoops in and arrests
30:12
the hitman, Sigfredo Garcia and Luis Rivera. A few months later,
30:16
in October of twenty sixteen, they arrest the connector, Katie Magbanua,
30:20
and immediately the state deploys the oldest, most effective tool
30:24
in the prosecutorial playbook, the prisoner's dilemma.
30:28
Speaker 1: Right, you isolate the co conspirators and you see who
30:30
cracks first. And Luis Rivera, the gang leader, who is
30:33
sitting in the passenger seat during the murder, he calculates
30:36
his odds.
30:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, he sees the writing on the wall.
30:38
Speaker 1: He's already in federal prison. If he goes to trial
30:41
for first degree murder, he is looking at the death
30:43
penalty or at best, life without parole. So Rivera takes
30:46
a plea deal. He agrees to flip. He agrees to
30:49
testify against his childhood friend Garcia and against Katie, and
30:53
in exchange for handing the state the entire narrative of
30:56
the drive and the payoff, Rivera gets just seven extra
30:59
year years added to the twelve year federal sentence he
31:02
is already serving.
31:03
Speaker 2: It is a bitter pill for the public to swallow,
31:05
but it is the grim mechanics of prosecuting a conspiracy.
31:09
You trade a lighter sentence for the accomplice to secure
31:12
the conviction of the trigger man and the orchestrators.
31:14
Speaker 1: I always struggle with this part. You know, you have
31:17
a documented gang leader who openly admits to stocking a man,
31:21
driving the getaway car, and watching his friend execute a
31:24
father of two, and his punishment is essentially a seven
31:28
year extension on a bid he's already doing.
31:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's tough.
31:31
Speaker 1: How does a jury swallow. That's making a deal with
31:34
the devil to catch a worse demon. But that deal
31:37
sets up the first major trial in October of twenty nineteen.
31:41
So Gredo Garcia and Katie Magbanua are standing trial together
31:45
as co defendants, right, and it is incredibly important to
31:47
note the timeline here. In October twenty nineteen, five years
31:52
after the murder, not a single member of the Edelson
31:54
family has been arrested or charged.
31:56
Speaker 2: The state's strategy in this twenty nineteen trial is clear.
31:59
Rivera testimony proves Garcia pulled the trigger, and the circumstantial
32:03
financial evidence proves Katie was the orchestrator who paid him.
32:06
But the defense attorneys are elite, and they attack the
32:09
structural weaknesses of the state's case. Katie's lawyers hammer on
32:13
a very specific, undeniable fact which, despite all the w
32:17
twos in the lavish lifestyle, the state cannot produce a
32:19
single bank record showing a thirty five thousand dollars cash
32:22
withdrawal from any Edleson account, and they cannot produce a
32:25
single record showing a cash deposit into Rivera or Garcia's accounts.
32:30
The defense argues Katie is just a girl who dated
32:32
a rich guy caught in a web of circumstantial coincidence.
32:36
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Garcia's lawyer takes an entirely different route. He goes
32:40
straight at Rivera. He attacks Rivera's credibility, labeling the seven
32:45
year plea agreement as the deal of a lifetime designed
32:48
to encourage a criminal to lie. The defense argues that
32:51
Charlie Aedelson used Katie as a buffer and that Garcia
32:55
was nothing more than upon being manipulated in a wealthy
32:57
man's deadly game.
32:58
Speaker 2: And the jury is sent out to liberate. And what
33:01
happens next is a fascinating study in jury psychology and
33:04
the inherent difficulty of prosecuting the degrees of separation in
33:07
a conspiracy.
33:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, what happened?
33:09
Speaker 2: The jury reaches a split decision. For sik Frado Garcia,
33:13
the man who physically stood in the driveway and fired
33:15
the gun. The evidence is insurmountable. He is convicted of
33:19
first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without
33:22
the possibility of parole.
33:24
Speaker 1: Hey what about Katie?
33:25
Speaker 2: But for Katie Magbanua, the jury cannot reach a unanimous verdict.
33:29
They are deadlocked. The judge is forced to declare a mistrial.
33:33
Speaker 1: Wow, it just shows you how hard it is to
33:35
convict someone of the paperwork of murder exactly. A jury
33:39
can easily conceptualize the visceral evil of pulling a trigger.
33:43
It is much harder for them to conceptualize the evil
33:45
of making a phone call, or handing over a stabled
33:47
stack of cash, or caching a fraudulent w Two. The
33:51
degrees of separation that Charlie relied upon using Katie as
33:54
the buffer actually worked to shield her during that first trial, and.
33:58
Speaker 2: For a long time it seemed like that shield might
34:00
hold permanently. Following that twenty nineteen mistrial, years ticked by.
34:06
To the outside world, it looked as though the Abelsons
34:08
had successfully insulated themselves.
34:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked like they got away with it.
34:12
Speaker 2: It looked like they were going to get away with it,
34:13
leaving the hitmen rotting in prison and the middleman suspended
34:17
in legal limbo while they just continued practicing dentistry in
34:20
coral springs. Unbelievable, But behind closed doors, the FBI and
34:24
state prosecutors never stopped grinding audio files and building the
34:28
circumstantial ladder.
34:29
Speaker 1: Which brings us to the final explosive act. Of this saga,
34:33
the masterminds unveiled, and the final flip yes, the dam
34:38
finally breaks. In April of twenty twenty two, law enforcement,
34:42
armed with newly enhanced audio from those twenty sixteen wiretaps
34:46
that definitively clarifies Charlie's panic statements, makes their move. Charlie
34:51
Aedelson is arrested and charged with first degree murder, conspiracy
34:55
and solicitation, and.
34:56
Speaker 2: The psychological pressure on Katie Magbanua immediately skyrocket bet. Just
35:00
weeks after Charlie's arrest. In May of twenty twenty two,
35:04
Katy faces her retrial, and she makes a fateful decision.
35:07
She takes the witness stand in her own defense and
35:09
she sticks to her original script. Yeah. She looks the
35:13
new jury in the eye and claims absolute innocence. She
35:17
testifies that she was just an unwitting pawn, completely blind
35:20
to the fact that her wealthy boyfriend and her violent
35:23
ex boyfriend were plotting a murder.
35:25
Speaker 1: But this jury, presented with a tighter prosecution case, doesn't
35:29
buy a word of it, do they not at all?
35:31
Speaker 2: Katie has found guilty on all three charges. The judge
35:34
hands down a devastating sentence life in prison plus two
35:39
consecutive thirty year sentences. Her life as she knew it
35:43
is completely over.
35:44
Speaker 1: That sets the stage for the main event, Yeah, Charlie's
35:47
trial in October of twenty twenty three. Charlie has watched
35:50
his hit man get life. He has watched his ex
35:53
girlfriend get life plus sixty years. His defense strategy is
35:56
born of absolute terrified desperation. Charlie takes the stand. He
36:01
admits that he made the joke about the hit man
36:02
and the TV, but he claims to the jury that
36:05
he never actually hired anyone.
36:06
Speaker 2: Yeah. His defense is that Katie took his stupid, tasteless
36:09
jokes seriously, went by in his back, orchestrated the murder
36:12
with Garcia, and then use the fact that the murder
36:14
actually happened to extort Charlie for money.
36:16
Speaker 1: That is just wow.
36:18
Speaker 2: He claims the w twos from the dental Institute weren't
36:21
payment for a hit, they were extortion payments to keep
36:24
Garcia from killing him.
36:25
Speaker 1: Next, is there any universe where a jury believes a
36:28
periodontist is just a victim of his own bad sense
36:31
of humor?
36:32
Speaker 2: It is an incredibly audacious level of spin. He is
36:36
asking a jury to believe that a wealthy, educated periodontist
36:40
is simply the tragic victim of his own bad sense
36:43
of humor, right that his ex girlfriend proactively ordered the
36:46
assassination of his former brother in law just to shake
36:49
him down for a few grand a month. It is
36:52
a defense that relies on the jury suspending all common
36:55
sense totally. But before the jury even has to weigh
36:58
that absurdity, the prosecution delivers the final lethal blow to
37:02
Charlie's case.
37:03
Speaker 1: The Massive twist. The courtroom door is open and Katie
37:06
Magbanua is brought in from state prison. She isn't wearing
37:09
designer clothes from South Beach anymore. She's wearing standard issue
37:12
County jeal scrubs. She takes a stand and she completely
37:15
flips her story.
37:16
Speaker 2: He does.
37:17
Speaker 1: She admits under oath that she lied to two separate juries.
37:21
She admits that she was the middleman. She explicitly testifies
37:24
that Charlie Adelson hired her to hire Sigfredo Garcia, And
37:28
when prosecution asks her why she is finally telling the
37:31
truth after lying for nearly a decade, she claims she's
37:34
doing it to give the victim's family closure.
37:37
Speaker 2: Now we have to analyze her psychology in that moment
37:40
because it is Fascinating's do Why would someone maintain their
37:44
absolute innocence for eight agonizing years, endure a hung jury,
37:49
go through a grueling retrial, face a life sentence, and
37:52
only decide to flip after they have already lost everything.
37:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't buy the closure argument for
37:58
a second. You don't know. I think that's what our
38:00
lawyer told her to say, so she sounds sympathetic to
38:02
the jury. I think she held out for eight years
38:04
because a mistrial gave her the delusion that she could
38:07
beat the system. It gave a false hope. But once
38:10
the gavel falls and you hear the words life plus
38:13
sixty years and you were sitting in a concrete cell
38:16
at low correctional institution, the delusion evaporates.
38:20
Speaker 2: I agree completely. It is the brutal reality of the
38:23
Hail Mary defense versus the concrete reality of a prison cell.
38:27
Speaker 1: Right.
38:27
Speaker 2: For eight years, she was protecting her own possibility of freedom,
38:31
but once she was convicted, she had absolutely nothing left
38:34
to protect. By testifying against Charlie, she wasn't just offering closure,
38:39
she was playing the absolute last card in her.
38:41
Speaker 1: Hand, hoping for a sentence reduction.
38:43
Speaker 2: Exactly. She was hoping that by handing the state the Mastermind,
38:47
she might harbor a tiny sliver of hope for a
38:49
future sentence reduction. The truth was the only currency she
38:53
had left to spend in her entire life, and.
38:55
Speaker 1: She spent it all because of her testimony. Charlie's Extortion
38:59
Defect V collapses. Charlie Adelson is convicted on all counts
39:03
and sentenced to life in prison. Yes he is, but
39:06
the state isn't done. The dominoes are still falling. In
39:09
November of twenty twenty three, just weeks after Charlie is convicted,
39:13
law enforcement moves in. The matriarch. Donna Adelson is arrested
39:18
and they don't restaur at her home. The arrestor at
39:20
Miami International Airport. She and her husband, Harvey had booked
39:23
one way tickets to Vietnam.
39:25
Speaker 2: And Vietnam, crucially is a country that does not have
39:27
an extradition treaty with the United States. Right she was running,
39:31
the flight risk was imminent and undeniable, which forced the
39:34
state to accelerate their timeline and make the arrest on
39:37
the jet bridge. Donna is held without bail and her
39:40
trial takes place in August of twenty.
39:42
Speaker 1: Twenty five, and Katie testifies.
39:44
Speaker 2: Again once again. Katie Mgbanua is transported from prison to
39:47
testify against the woman who allegedly helped fund the stapled
39:51
stacks of cash. Donna, unlike her son, exercises her right
39:55
to remain silent and does not take the stand. Wow,
39:58
the jury's deliberation is swift. Donna Adelson is convicted of
40:02
first degree murder.
40:03
Speaker 1: I want to take a second to look at how
40:04
a massive, glamorous, high stakes conspiracy actually ends. It doesn't
40:09
end with dramatic music or a movie fade out. It
40:11
ends in cold, sterile bureaucracy.
40:14
Speaker 2: That's true.
40:15
Speaker 1: When the judge read Katie's final sentencing order, he didn't
40:18
give a grand speech. He just read docket numbers. He
40:21
granted her twenty one hundred and nineteen days of credit
40:23
for time already served in county lockup, and he assessed
40:26
her twenty six hundred and twenty five dollars in mandatory
40:29
court costs. It is such a bleak, depressing administrative end
40:33
to a lifestyle that was built on ferrari rides in
40:36
South Beach Dinners.
40:37
Speaker 2: The bureaucracy of the justice system is the ultimate equalizer.
40:41
It doesn't care about your zip code or your dental practice.
40:43
Speaker 1: Right.
40:44
Speaker 2: It strips away the wealth, the status, the beachfront condos,
40:47
and the arrogance. It reduces a sprawling conspiracy of human
40:51
ego down to a few lines on a docket sheet
40:53
and consecutive life sentences.
40:55
Speaker 1: Let's pull back in a look at the sheer scope
40:56
of what we just covered. This entire tragedy started as
40:59
a bitter custody dispute over two young boys in Tallahassee
41:02
in twenty thirteen, and it's slowly mutated and metastasized.
41:06
Speaker 2: It did.
41:07
Speaker 1: It sprawled into a massive web involving Miami gang member's.
41:10
FBI undercover operations, are rented Toyota Prius, digital tollbooth records,
41:16
W two payroll fraud, and a wealthy family of dentists
41:20
who thought they could buy their way out of a
41:21
family court ruling. And it ends with almost every major
41:25
player serving life sentences scattered across the United States.
41:28
Speaker 2: If we look at the current status of the individuals involved,
41:31
Luis Rivera is serving out his time in a Florida
41:34
State prison facility. Sigfredo Garcia, the triggerman is serving a
41:38
life sentence at Liberty Correctional Institution. Right, Charlie Adelson, the mastermind,
41:44
was transferred out of state to a prison in South
41:46
Dakota to serve his life sentence. Donna Adelson is spending
41:49
the rest of her natural life at Homestead Correctional Institution,
41:53
and Katie Magbanua, the connector, is serving her life sentence
41:56
at Lowell Correctional Institutions.
41:58
Speaker 1: It's just staggering.
41:59
Speaker 2: And as we close this analysis, it is important to
42:01
note impartially and factually that as of this moment, Wendy
42:04
Adelson and her father, Harvey Aelson, have never been charged
42:08
in connection with this crime.
42:09
Speaker 1: The legal cases may be closed, the gavels have fallen,
42:12
and the prison doors are locked, but the collateral damage
42:16
is still breathing.
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Speaker 2: And that is the chilling concept I want to leave
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you with.
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Speaker 1: Today.
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Speaker 2: We focus so heavily on the perpetrators and the mechanics
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of the crime, but consider the psychological reality of the
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unindicted survivors.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's heavy.
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Speaker 2: What is the daily reality for Wendy Adelson today? The
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father of her children was brutally assassinated in his driveway,
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Her own brother and her own mother are currently sitting
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in prison for the rest of their natural lives for
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orchestrating that exact assassination. Right and her children, Dan Marklesons
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have to grow up carrying the unimaginable weight of this legacy.
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Even if we operate under the absolute assumption that Wendy
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was completely oblivious to the plot, she is now trapped
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in a different kind of.
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Speaker 1: Prison she really is.
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Speaker 2: It is a prison constructed of dark family secrets, of
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overwhelming public suspicion, and of profound inescapable isolation. How does
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a family ever recover from a fracture this deep. The
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justice system can lock people away, it can assess court
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costs and hand out life sentences, but it cannot heal
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the generational trauma it leaves in its wake.
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Speaker 1: It's a reminder that you can't just subcontract the messy
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parts of human existence when you try to buy your
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way out of reality. The bill that eventually comes due
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is always infinitely higher than you ever imagined. Thank you
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so much for joining us on this deep dive. Keep
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questioning the world around you, keep looking for the invisible connections,
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and we'll catch you next time.