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  Speaker 1: Is the reform it. Tonight the Alberteze Government Concil's moves
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  Speaker 1: to deport a New Zealand former Bucky boss after he
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  Speaker 1: claimed to be Aboriginal. But there's something odd about some
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  Speaker 1: of the paperwork. Also tonight, we're on our own. I'm
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  Speaker 1: afraid America pulls out its last aircraft carrier from the Pacific,
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  Speaker 1: our neighborhood, to go and defend Israel instead. And Russia's
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  Speaker 1: a top diplomat to Beijing to as China not to
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  Speaker 1: go to war. Something very serious is going on. And
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  Speaker 1: New Kaims in the Britain Higgins deformation case put the
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  Speaker 1: spotlight again on why the Albertize government gave her two
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  Speaker 1: point four million dollars, and Mega Markel says she's doing
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  Speaker 1: important work by making people by the clothes and bags
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  Speaker 1: she promotes. But first, there was a brawl today the
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales Bush Summit that said it all about
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  Speaker 1: our future, a verbal brawl. I'll show you some of
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  Speaker 1: it between Nationals front bench of Barnaby Joyce and Matt Kean,
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  Speaker 1: the Aveneze government's top advisor on its disastrous shift to
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  Speaker 1: renewable energy. Now, after this brawl, I don't have any
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  Speaker 1: confidence at all in the government. Of course, that's not new.
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  Speaker 1: And an energy Minster Chris Bowen, that's not new in
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  Speaker 1: the handing of our electricity supplies. I mean, look, I've
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  Speaker 1: left us with massive bills and fresh warnings today of
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  Speaker 1: power shortages. But now I can also say I have
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  Speaker 1: zero confidence in Matt Keen. Zero in Keen, this former
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  Speaker 1: New South Wales liberal treasure and climate alarmist who Bowen
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  Speaker 1: appointed this year to head his Climate Change Authority. Well,
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  Speaker 1: what a joke that's turned out to be. Matt Kean
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  Speaker 1: is now hopelessly conflicted. How can he be both advising
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  Speaker 1: the government on what to do about renewable energy and
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  Speaker 1: also working for an investment fund making money off renewable energy.
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  Speaker 1: If that's not an apparent conflict of interest, I do
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  Speaker 1: not know what is now. Of course, Sir Ken says, look,
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  Speaker 1: there are procedures to deal with any conflict. The waves
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  Speaker 1: that say, but can you imagine the uproar if this
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  Speaker 1: Climate Change Authority was led instead by a coal mine
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  Speaker 1: owner or Gina Reinhardt. Now I'll show you now should
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  Speaker 1: actually be found better, and they'll show you some of
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  Speaker 1: this brawl today, The Daily Telegraph push summit between Barnaby
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  Speaker 1: Joyce and this Matt Keen. Remember Chris bones handpicked top
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  Speaker 1: advisor on the push to destroy our coal fired power
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  Speaker 1: plants and replace them, they hope, with enough green energy.
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  Speaker 1: I want you to watch as Keen relies on a
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  Speaker 1: CSIRO report which I will show you that next is
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  Speaker 1: discredited and somehow argues that nuclear power, which is fine
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  Speaker 1: for almost every other advanced economy in the world, is
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  Speaker 1: yet somehow wrong. For Australia.
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  Speaker 2: Nuclear is three to five times more expensively right than
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  Speaker 2: firm renewables.
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  Speaker 1: That's what the cs R say.
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  Speaker 2: Is taken up with the CSIRO Traken organization.
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  Speaker 1: That's right organition. All the other busted and so all
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  Speaker 1: the other countries are wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Developed five Bluetooth, which is our father start one word crops,
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  Speaker 2: Finland's wrong, China's wrong, Russia is wrong, our trust it's wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Custid enough for me, I trusty night. Everyone's wrong. They're
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  Speaker 1: all wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Part ones, Chris Barliner, thelig.
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  Speaker 1: And it's we are the only ones there.
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  Speaker 2: The only one is you're talking doesn't help people lower
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  Speaker 2: their power bills in twenty years time.
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  Speaker 1: We need to help people now, and it's Renebles that
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  Speaker 1: will do global facts.
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  Speaker 3: Far during the nine years?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, thanks through the nine years of the coalition government?
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  Speaker 5: Yes, did you try to get nuclear up.
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  Speaker 1: Australia all the time, all the time?
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  Speaker 2: And I could go through why didn't it happen? Because
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  Speaker 2: they say, oh, the polling doesn't agree.
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  Speaker 3: Who said that?
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  Speaker 1: But you are the Deputy Primate.
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  Speaker 2: Not Morrison said that's you absolutely one.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, plenty there to get into. But most important, I
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  Speaker 1: am shocked that Matt Kean should be quoting that CSA
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  Speaker 1: report as a reason to ban nuclear power here. I
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  Speaker 1: mean that alone tells me that he is either not
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  Speaker 1: serious or not informed. Now, like I say, that report
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  Speaker 1: has been widely criticized for reasons I've shown on my
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  Speaker 1: show before. But let me go through some of it again. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this report does claim building a big nuclear power stations
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  Speaker 1: more expensive the wind and solar power, which have to
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  Speaker 1: be backed of course by some kind of power storage
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  Speaker 1: when the wind doesn't blow, the thunders and shine. And
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  Speaker 1: it says yes, indeed, it says nuclear generator would take
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  Speaker 1: fifteen years to build too late. It claims to save
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  Speaker 1: us from the coming power shortages caused by destroying, stupidly
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  Speaker 1: destroying our remaining colified plants. But how did it work
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  Speaker 1: out those costs? Answer by fiddling the figures. For one,
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  Speaker 1: the CSRO claimed or compared solar and wind power to
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  Speaker 1: nuclear power over to just a thirty year period. And
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  Speaker 1: that is so misleading because after thirty years, a nuclear
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  Speaker 1: power station can keep going for maybe another fifty years,
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  Speaker 1: pumping out constant power at little extra cost. But after
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  Speaker 1: thirty years wind and sole their plants, they are finished.
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  Speaker 1: Batteries are finished. At fifteen years, they'd all have to
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  Speaker 1: be removed and replaced at enormous cost, which the CSIRO
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  Speaker 1: did not include in this comparison. But it gets worse.
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  Speaker 1: The CSIRO widely and wildly underestimated how much electricity a
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  Speaker 1: nuclear plant puts out, and on the other hand, exaggerated
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  Speaker 1: how much wind and solar factories put out. It reckons
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  Speaker 1: a nuclear plant would operate for US littles half the
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  Speaker 1: time and at most eighty nine percent. Obviously that's a joke,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, the latest studies show nuclear generators
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  Speaker 1: tend to run it eighty one percent of the time,
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  Speaker 1: and modern ones more than ninety. The sierrat IRO also
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  Speaker 1: claimed wind farms would pump out of the tricy trap
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  Speaker 1: to twice as long as studies that I've seen actually say,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, can you believe that? And what's more, the
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  Speaker 1: CSRO is vague about what the backup for wind and
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  Speaker 1: solar would actually cost, because you need them when the
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  Speaker 1: wind and solar don't work. And as I've shown you
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  Speaker 1: so often, the government tends to very badly underestimate that.
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  Speaker 1: Take the snowy two points zero scheme. Now it looks
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  Speaker 1: like costing ten times what we were promised. The clean
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  Speaker 1: energy roll out way behind and also over budget. And
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  Speaker 1: one thing that makes Matt Keen an absolute goose for
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  Speaker 1: hiding behind that CSIRO report. That report says it would
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  Speaker 1: take us more than fifteen years to build a nuclear plant.
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  Speaker 1: Too late, Sis Keen. Even if that's true, my tip
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  Speaker 1: is that by then we are desperately going to need
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  Speaker 1: that electricity the way things are going. But how true
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  Speaker 1: is it? Last week China said it would build eleven
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  Speaker 1: nuclear stations in just five years, not fifteen. So for
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  Speaker 1: Matt Keen to wave around the CSO report like this
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  Speaker 1: holy gospel garlic in front of the nuclear vampire, it's
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  Speaker 1: just a shock, no wonder we're in such a mess.
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  Speaker 1: How much a big one. Today the Australian Energy Market Operator,
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  Speaker 1: which is gung ho for renewables, admitted we're now in trouble.
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  Speaker 1: We're not building enough green power that works. We'd be
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  Speaker 1: in real strife already if the new South Wales government
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  Speaker 1: hadn't rescued us by keeping the Eraring Colfard's power station
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  Speaker 1: going for another couple of years at enormous cost and
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  Speaker 1: the aim your boss today said everything must now go
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  Speaker 1: right with the government's plans or else it.
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  Speaker 2: Really does need to be delivered on time and in
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  Speaker 2: full so that we all have access to reliable electricity
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  Speaker 2: going forwards.
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  Speaker 6: This is again a reminder that the whole system is
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  Speaker 6: in tatters and the government is.
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  Speaker 2: Needing everything that's been failing to suddenly miraculously work.
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  Speaker 1: But really there is only one test that you need
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  Speaker 1: to set the government to be able to work out
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  Speaker 1: if it's green revolution is working out as planned as promised,
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  Speaker 1: it's this did the government actually meet this election promised
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  Speaker 1: to cut your electricity.
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  Speaker 7: Bills, reducing power prices by two hundred and seventy five
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  Speaker 7: dollars and seventy five dollars a.
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  Speaker 2: Year twenty twenty five, two hundred and seventy five dollars
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  Speaker 2: a year.
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  Speaker 8: Two seventy five by twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 9: We stand by that.
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  Speaker 1: Total fail, totally clueless. Your bills instead went through the roof.
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  Speaker 1: So why on earth should anyone trust this government now
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  Speaker 1: or trust Matt Kean. I was joined a short while
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  Speaker 1: ago by my regular Thursday guess the man you saw
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  Speaker 1: having that barney with Matt Kean Nationals front bench of
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  Speaker 1: Barnaby Jewyce the formul Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us. That was quite the argument there. I
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  Speaker 1: have to say, are you concerned as I am by
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  Speaker 1: Matt Kean's apparent conflict of interests? He says it'll be managed.
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  Speaker 1: There are regulatory frameworks, et cetera, et cetera. But to me,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, doesn't look great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like something that Keene has to explain that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Oh, Andrew, I can't believe that you know
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  Speaker 2: that there'd be anything like that. I mean, I've met
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  Speaker 2: that and I know that you know that he is.
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  Speaker 2: He's come to this position on renewables because he just
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  Speaker 2: couldn't sleep at night and intermittal power was his savior,
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  Speaker 2: and that he is on a quest, on a quest
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  Speaker 2: to save Australia from instantaneous combustion by having eighty two
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  Speaker 2: percent renewables by twenty thirty. And of course, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that he'd be buying maybe country underneath the
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  Speaker 2: transmission lines, property, buying farms where these swindle factories are
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  Speaker 2: going to be in front of them, in front of them,
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  Speaker 2: so he could see his virtue every morning when he
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  Speaker 2: woke up and had his weedies, just look at them.
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  Speaker 2: And if the transmission lines can go just near his house,
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  Speaker 2: I would understand, know, I would understand that. I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be his next investment into swindle factories
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  Speaker 2: and to make sure that his house is fully in
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  Speaker 2: front of there soon to be obsolete trash.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be building any solar
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  Speaker 1: farms or wind factories near his house. But there you go.
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  Speaker 1: That king was waving around like it was he was
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  Speaker 1: citing the CSIRO report, right. This is a holy writ
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  Speaker 1: that the CSI report said, no go to nuclear, it
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  Speaker 1: was far too expensive, even though as I've just demonstrated,
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  Speaker 1: that CSI report has been widely debunked as underestimating the
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  Speaker 1: power generation of a nuclear Park plant, overestimating the power
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  Speaker 1: generation of solar and wind and not giving the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of the of the nuclear power plants lasting two or
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  Speaker 1: three times longer than the wind and solar factories he
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  Speaker 1: was comparing them to. I mean, how could he do this?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Well, yes, as you know, in the gospel,
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  Speaker 2: there's Matthew Mark, Luke John and the CSIRO report. I
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  Speaker 2: mean it just accepted as gospel. Now, the problem with
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  Speaker 2: this report, of course, is it comes from a country
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't have nuclear power, and a EMO doesn't have
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  Speaker 2: nuclear power, not that it's not in Australia, which is
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  Speaker 2: what the A, which is what they A stands for.
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  Speaker 2: So what we have is a piece of paper sort
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  Speaker 2: of like you know, peace in our time. And we
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  Speaker 2: have therefore, all these other countries Finland, France, England, the
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  Speaker 2: United Arab Emirates, Czechoslovakia, China, Russia, Canada, the United States, India, Pakistan, see,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, they are all crazy. They just they
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  Speaker 2: invested in nuclear power because they've lost their marbles. And
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to have is that CSR report going
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  Speaker 2: overseas and saying you silly boys, can't you see that
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  Speaker 2: Australia says that what you're doing, even though your power
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  Speaker 2: is cheaper than ours, is unviable. Now, what I would
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  Speaker 2: challenge government to do is, if you believe the CSR
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  Speaker 2: report is embellished with you know, well it is an embellishment,
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  Speaker 2: but it is the absolute truth.
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  Speaker 1: Then why do you need prohibitions on nuclear?
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  Speaker 2: Whyon't you just remove it? And if anybody goes to
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  Speaker 2: investment there you can say, I've got a piece of
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  Speaker 2: paper that says it doesn't work. But of course they
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  Speaker 2: don't do it, and this is the hypocrisy of it, David.
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  Speaker 2: So they come out and say, we've got to report
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  Speaker 2: that's absolutely rock solid, says it's unaffordable, but we've also
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  Speaker 2: got a law to make sure you can't even contemplate
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  Speaker 2: doing it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't get that bit either. I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: it really is so terrible, like you've said too, lift
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  Speaker 1: the ban and let the market decide. What is it
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  Speaker 1: with the band? That's the really interesting thing I want
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  Speaker 1: to get to this one. Barnaby. We heard you say
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  Speaker 1: that you were arguing, and I'm sure you were. You
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  Speaker 1: were arguing in the previous nine years of the Coalition
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  Speaker 1: government to go to nuclear. But Scott Morrison then Prime
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  Speaker 1: Minister in the last few years said to you know,
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  Speaker 1: the polls don't support it. Can you tell us a
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  Speaker 1: bit about that conversation and what it tells you about
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  Speaker 1: the Morrison government?
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  Speaker 2: Most definitely I had a meeting with the then Prime
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  Speaker 2: Minister Scott Morrison and I said, you know, we know
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  Speaker 2: I was pushing forward youth there and he said, well,
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  Speaker 2: look here's the polling and you know it's it's not popular.
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  Speaker 2: And now my view is that the art of politics
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  Speaker 2: is to lead the polling, not follow the polling. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be sort of holier than now then,
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  Speaker 2: but I think it's very honest when people ask you
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  Speaker 2: an honest question, to give them an honest answer, and
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  Speaker 2: that is an honest answer. Now we've continued on with
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  Speaker 2: that pursuit lobbing for nuclear power, and a great credit
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  Speaker 2: must go to so many people such as David Gillespie,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Nationals in general, David Little Proud's done
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  Speaker 2: a lot of work in that space, and of course
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  Speaker 2: Matt Canevan has been brilliant. And you know I did
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  Speaker 2: my part and what we've we're making sure Keith Pitt incredible.
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  Speaker 2: What we've done is now move the debate. So there
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  Speaker 2: is support for nuclear power. And as people, most cogent
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  Speaker 2: people say, as hear new facts and they're different to
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  Speaker 2: what I knew, I changed my mind.
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  Speaker 1: You know what do you do?
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  Speaker 2: And people have changed their mind and now we are
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  Speaker 2: seeing overwhelming move towards support of nuclear power. Just so
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  Speaker 2: people know we're talking that in the past we had
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  Speaker 2: black rocks that boil water that created steam that turned
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  Speaker 2: the turbine coal. And now we've got a different rocks
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  Speaker 2: that boils water, that creates steam that turns the turbine
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  Speaker 2: like they do in so many other countries that have
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  Speaker 2: vastly cheaper power than us. And I'll give you a
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  Speaker 2: working example of a country that started going down the
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  Speaker 2: intermitted power and shut down the nuclear power plants. It's
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  Speaker 2: Germany and their power price last year was forty.
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  Speaker 1: One percent higher than the rest of Europe.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a working example of where Australia is off to.
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  Speaker 2: And unless the Australian people say enough of this madness.
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  Speaker 2: We want to make sure that poor people are not impoverished,
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  Speaker 2: further humiliated, further that we actually have a manufacturing industry
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  Speaker 2: that we in a nation that we has to become
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: as powerful as possible, as script with as possible. We
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  Speaker 2: don't make ourselves power less, and you cannot run a
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  Speaker 2: full time economy on part time power. Let's get some
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  Speaker 2: sanity back into this debate. Unless we do that, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to head off a cliff.
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  Speaker 1: Barnaby Joyce, thank you so much for your time, boys
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  Speaker 1: a pleasure. Now we're to come back to the political
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  Speaker 1: scandal in the Britney Higgins case. This is after more
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  Speaker 1: claims in the court case in Perth where Higgins is
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  Speaker 1: being sued for defamation. Now civil court this year found
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  Speaker 1: Higgins was raped in the office of then defensemans of
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  Speaker 1: Linda Reynolds by Liberal staff, but Reynolds is now suing
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  Speaker 1: Higgins for defamation for suggesting there was a political cover
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  Speaker 1: up and Renalds treated a shabbily. Now we heard earlier
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  Speaker 1: this year from another judge there was no cover up
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  Speaker 1: and that Higgins had made at least nine untrue statements
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  Speaker 1: in documents have formed part of a settlement with Commonwealth
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  Speaker 1: where the Albanies of Governor actually paid her two point
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  Speaker 1: four million dollars in part for that supposed bad treatment
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  Speaker 1: she got. And my question has always been why did
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  Speaker 1: she get that payer when there was no cover and
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  Speaker 1: when the government refused that Reynolds give evidence, saying so
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  Speaker 1: defending yourself. Well, now more claims by Reynolds's legal team
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  Speaker 1: in this deformation case that her government appointed lawyers had
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  Speaker 1: handled the matter unbelievably poorly, that's its claim, and waived
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  Speaker 1: a limitation period that had expired so that Higgins could
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  Speaker 1: then claim compensation three years after the rape. Joining me
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  Speaker 1: is Chris Merrit, vice President of the Rule of Law
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  Speaker 1: Institute of Australia, also writes for The Australian newspaper, Chris Merrit,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of the government's handling of this
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  Speaker 1: two point four million dollar payout to Higgins.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I'd like to be able to give you an
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  Speaker 10: informed assessment, Andrew, but the secrecy involved in that mediation
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  Speaker 10: makes that impossible. And that's the problem. There's so much
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  Speaker 10: material we now have around the mediation that there are
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  Speaker 10: a series of questions that need to be asked. We know,
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  Speaker 10: for example, that the mediation was for two ostensibly for
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  Speaker 10: two things. One was the alleged trauma she suffered from
• 18:08
  Speaker 10: the alleged sexual assault, and the other was the way
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  Speaker 10: the then Morrison government handled this, But we've also learned
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  Speaker 10: during the defamation case that a psychiatrist produced two reports
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  Speaker 10: assessing different levels of trauma, attributing different levels of trauma
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  Speaker 10: to the sexual assault. On the first report, he said
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  Speaker 10: all the trauma was one hundred percent the result of
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  Speaker 10: the sexual assaults, and on the second report, he said
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  Speaker 10: almost half of it was due to the government's conduct.
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  Speaker 10: Now we don't know which of those reports went to
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  Speaker 10: the mediation. We don't know why there were two reports,
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  Speaker 10: but we need to get to the bottom of it.
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  Speaker 10: But there's plenty of other material that has popped up
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  Speaker 10: in this defamation case that certainly needs to be explored.
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  Speaker 10: The role of the lawyers as the latest who gave
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  Speaker 10: the lawyers who are ostensibly acting for Linda Reynolds. There's
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  Speaker 10: a Labor appointed lawyers who are ostensibly acting for her,
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  Speaker 10: who gave them instructions to waive this limitation period and
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  Speaker 10: allow miss Higgins to start proceedings after the limitation period
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  Speaker 10: had expired. That needs to be explored. Did these lawyers,
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  Speaker 10: after being appointed by Labor, fulfill their obligations to their client,
• 19:32
  Speaker 10: Linda Reynolds? That needs to be explored. Now I suspect
• 19:36
  Speaker 10: the only way we're going to get to the bottom
• 19:40
  Speaker 10: of this is if the National Anti Corruption Commission takes
• 19:44
  Speaker 10: this up. But that's not the end of this. I'd
• 19:47
  Speaker 10: like to say that's the end of it. But if
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: Reynolds wins, we've then got an entirely new legal action
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: in the wings. This is aimed at unwinding the Britney
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: Higgins Protective Trust, which holds the residue of that two
• 20:02
  Speaker 10: point four million, which would then become available miss to
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: Senator Reynolds if she wins the case. So there's a
• 20:11
  Speaker 10: long way to run. I wouldn't want to bet money
• 20:15
  Speaker 10: on who's going to win, but either way, I think
• 20:19
  Speaker 10: the lawyers.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Will Chris, you and I have been writing about this
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: political scandal for years now, raising these sorts of questions.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: Are we ever going to see? For me? It's quite
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: clear there's a vest that interests. The potential conflict of
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: interest for the government to have given all this money
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: to the Higgins because that would validate her claims of
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: a cover up, which the judges ruled were false. That
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: would validate a claims for a cover up, which is
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: exactly what the Labor Party took such pleasure in pursuing
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: against the Morrison government. That's how you know. It used
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: to destroy the Morrison government, so it had to validate
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and that's the potential conflict of interest.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Look, I agree with ever going.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: To be held to account.
• 21:09
  Speaker 10: Look, I think the problem. The problem is the structure
• 21:13
  Speaker 10: of the rules governing settlements in civil claims against the Commonwealth.
• 21:20
  Speaker 10: They're a opaque and ostensibly, on the face of things
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: they look quite rigorous. But if those rules aren't complied with,
• 21:30
  Speaker 10: there's a huge loophole right at the end that gives
• 21:34
  Speaker 10: the Attorney General the ability to simply certify that special
• 21:38
  Speaker 10: circumstances apply and a payout should be made. Now, I
• 21:42
  Speaker 10: don't think that's good enough, and we haven't even seen
• 21:44
  Speaker 10: what happened in the mediation. But just on the structure
• 21:48
  Speaker 10: of the rules themselves, they're wide open to a conflict
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: of interest leading to untoward outcomes. Let me put it
• 21:58
  Speaker 10: that way.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Chris Merrett, this is Scott, as you say, an incredibly
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: long way still to run. It's like we've been living
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: this with this for years and years. That g the
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: mystery deepens and the government has got a real lot
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: of explaining to do. Thank you so much for enlightening
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: US and what's going really going on unbelievable after the break,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: We've been really exposed militarily. America has pulled out its
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: last aircraft carrier from the Pacific justice China's military this
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: week gets aggressive with Taiwan, with Japan, with the Philippines,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and one of America's top generals now warns us America
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: is weaker than we think. A critically important interview coming
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: up to something this week that's really shocked me. It's
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: such a frightening sign of how vulnerable we are, how
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: weak America there is, and much more than most people
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: know all want to know. The US has just pulled
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: out its last aircraft carrier in the Pacific that's our region,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: and set the USS Abraham Lincoln to the Middle East instead.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: The US now has two carriers there, hoping to stop
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: a wider war against Israete. In fact, the US is
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: eleven aircraft carries in orbit summer in dark, and none
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: are free for the Pacific for weeks to come. If,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: for instance, China did start a war on our doorstep
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: by invading Taiwan, as it's threatened, and then where would
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: we be Too few missiles, too few submarines, too few
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: soldiers helpless if there is a Chinese blockade. And all
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: this just when China is flexing its muscles. Only this
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: week It's sent aircraft into Taiwan's identification zone, It's sent
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: a plane into Japan's airspace, it's ran a supply ship
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: of the Philippines. And meanwhile, President Joe Barden is on
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: another long holiday, but is national Security advisor is now
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: hot footed to Beijing to talk to China's Foreign minister
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: to prevent war.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: We are working to ensure the competition does not bear
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: in the conflict.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Joining me is General Jack Keane I spoke to me
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a short while ago, retired for star general who served
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: as Vice Chief Staff of the United States Army. He's
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: now chairman in the Institute for the Study of War,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: and what he has to say must be heard. General
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Jack Kean, thank you so much for your time. President
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Biden can't spare our region and aircraft carrier, but he
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: is sending as National Security advisor to US China to
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: play nice in the meantime.
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: What's going on, Well, first of all, we have a
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: major problem in the Middle East. The Iranians have operationalized
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: all of their proxies to do two things. One to
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: destroy the state of Israel as a sovereign power and
• 25:01
  Speaker 9: reduced people's willingness to live there, and to drive the
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: United States out of the region. As a result of that,
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: they have attacked the United States bases in the region
• 25:15
  Speaker 9: in Iraq and Syria over two hundred times since the
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: Biden administration came into power, and one hundred and thirty
• 25:24
  Speaker 9: five times since Amas invaded Israel. The second thing is
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: Iranians have operational lives, who thies who have shut down
• 25:34
  Speaker 9: the Suez Canal, if you can believe that that's actually happened.
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: They have fired ballistic missiles at the naval ships that
• 25:42
  Speaker 9: the United States has in the region to try and
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: defend against the shutdown of the Suez Canal, and blessedly,
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: we have not been hit by those ballistic missiles. We
• 25:57
  Speaker 9: came within a few seconds of that happening, and we
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: had three hundred sailors on that ship, which would have
• 26:05
  Speaker 9: been quite devastating. Hamas is raising a war against Israel
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: in Gaza. Hezbalah is also raising a war to a
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: modest degree, not as completely as Hamas in northern Israel.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: And the reality is is that the United States needs
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: to bring resources into that region to ensure that Israel
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: is going to survive. So what has happened is we
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: brought a carrier strike group that was on its way
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: to the Middle East to replace the one that is there,
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: and that one will eventually go home. But given the
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: sense of hoscilities there, I believe the administration has made
• 26:53
  Speaker 9: the right decision to keep both of those carriers strike
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: groups there. As a result of that, you have rightly
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: in the the exposure of the United States weakness. We
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: do not have a carrier strike group in the Indo
• 27:08
  Speaker 9: Pacific region, and that strike group is in San Diego
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: right now going through maintenance. That'll be a number of
• 27:17
  Speaker 9: weeks before it's able to return. So what is really
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: happening here. I've been on a National Congressional commission for
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: the last twenty months and we have identified the fact
• 27:33
  Speaker 9: that China, Russia, and North Korea and Iran are cooperating, coordinating,
• 27:41
  Speaker 9: collaborating together to take advantage of the United States weakness
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: in three areas Europe. Russia has invaded Middle East, Iran
• 27:51
  Speaker 9: has done exactly what I just indicated, and President she
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: has increases aggressiveness over the last three years. The United
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: States does not have the capability, even with our allies
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: and partners, to push back on all three of these
• 28:09
  Speaker 9: geographic interests, which are vital to the United States security,
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: because we have depleted our resources over years involved in
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: the nine to eleven wars and permitted the Obama administration
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: and need cap US for eight years in terms of resources,
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: and a Biden administration has done much of the very
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: same things.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: So here's the point.
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: The United States Navy maritime forces are getting smaller, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: China's are getting larger. They're at three point fifty five
• 28:43
  Speaker 9: three sixty, and we're in the two eighties and getting smaller.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: The United States Army is the smallest andrew it's been
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: since prior to World War Two. We can't find those
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: similar numbers. The Air Force is the smaller it's been
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: in forty years now. Numbers are not the only issue,
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: but the reality is at some point quantity has got
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: to have a quality all of its own, and it's
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: shameful what is happening here. We are risking US security
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: to be sure, and that of our allies and partners
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: at the same time.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: Just finally, with all that US firepower in the region,
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Why not finally take out the Iranian targets and the
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Houti targets to the US commander in that area has
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: actually begged the White House to let them destroy.
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: You know, this is absolutely baffling, and it's a parent
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: of behavior that we saw during your Batam administration for
• 29:45
  Speaker 9: eight years, their unwillingness to confront adversaries when they have
• 29:50
  Speaker 9: absolute legitimate basis for doing that. And here we are
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: with the Biden administration for three years on the heels
• 30:01
  Speaker 9: of the Trump administration, leading had maximum sanctions on Iranians.
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: If they were back on their heels, they had killed
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: Tussam Solomani. The new administration came in and immediately removed
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: a lot of the sanctions so that oil would flow,
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: Iran would get money. And they did it, and they
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: said the reason for them doing it, Andrew, is we're
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: doing this out of good faith. They did it secretly,
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: didn't tell the American people to Congress about it so
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: that you would understand that we are truly committed to
• 30:32
  Speaker 9: going back into the nuclear deal. For the last three years,
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: what has resulted as an impact of what that decision was,
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: the Iranians have become unbelievably more aggressive, and despite that,
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: they have had their hands off and doing it in
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: confronting Iran directly. The United States military, as you just suggested,
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: it's commander General Eric Kurulla, has made a recommendation to
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: this administration multiple times. I have spoken to him myself
• 31:10
  Speaker 9: over one hundred targets. He has recommended inside Iran not
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: targets go to war targets with taking down the National
• 31:20
  Speaker 9: Command Authority, or dealing with Iranian citizens casualties, or even
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: dealing with commercial targets like oil refineries or oil fields.
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: He has dealt with only military targets to get Iran's
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: attention to shut down their aggression, and this administration has
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: refused it time and time again. The signs of weakness
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: that we are displaying to Iran is being learned by
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: who is being learned by President she in the Indo
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: Pacific region. Obviously, it's being learned by Russia dealing with
• 32:00
  Speaker 9: the war in Ukraine as well. That's the reality of
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: what we're facing. We are consistently and persistently showing a
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: sense of weakness right in the face of the number
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: one aggressia in the region is a run who's destabilizing
• 32:15
  Speaker 9: the Middle East.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I shake my head at what's going on in general,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and I'm not sure it's going to get any better
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: anytime soon. Thank you so much for laying it out
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: to us, because I think a lot of people are
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: in denial about how dangerous things really have become, not
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: just in the Middle East, but in our region and
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: of course in Europe. Thank you so much for your time.
• 32:40
  Speaker 9: Yeah, wonderful talking to you, Andrew. Thank you very much.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: After the break. Another curious case, the Albanezi government stops
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: trying to deport the uncle of an AFL star former
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: biking boss from New Zealand after he claims to be Aboriginal.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Tani Plipisik's decision last week to effectively ban a one
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: billion dollar gold mine because of secret aboriginal business is
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a scandal that's just getting worse today. The Albanezi governments
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: environments that came at a more fire at the Daily
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Telegraph Bush Summit for banning the mines planned Tailing's Dam,
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: which was critical to the project. Now Plimask refused to
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: go to that Bush summit, turned down an invitation she
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: had ignored local traditional owners near Orange, New South Wales
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: who said this dam wasn't on a sacred site. Pliversk
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: listened instead to an artist now identifying as a local
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Morajeri Elder, although this woman used to identify with another tribe,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: and listen to this historian also identifying as Aboriginal. At
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: about sixteen other dissidents, most of them haven't been named,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: who claimed the dam was on a sacred site. Well,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: one Wiradery Elder acknowledged were Adurie Elder roy RC, a
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: former chairperson in U Supper's Aboriginal Land Council, blasted Plebak
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: at the Bush Summit.
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: And I'm very very annoyed because how are we going
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: to close the gap. The biggest killer of Abidinal people
• 34:13
  Speaker 7: in this country is an alcohol and drugs. It's absolute
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: poverty and welfare dependency. And here we got a minister
• 34:22
  Speaker 7: that's knocking back a billion dollar mine that could create
• 34:26
  Speaker 7: economic empowerment for my people.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Now, Plimusic today told journals, hey, this site is sacred,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but she still won't tell us why she ignored the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: traditional owners or why it's sacred. She even insisted that
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: these dissidents were somehow the traditional owners.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: We're actually traditional owners Central West Aboriginal Corporation is the
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: group that I've acted to. They have asked me to
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: act to protect this area as culturally significant, and I've
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: taken their advice that it is culturally He came for them.
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: This is the same group of people that the previous
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: Environment Minister Susan Lay listened to.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But the mon owner was also the bush. Somebody said plimous,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: it was dead wrong.
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: The four hundred hectares I've protected are the headwaters and
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: springs of the Blabula River which are significant to local moraduary.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: Traditional owners.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Join me is the panel. James McPherson from the late
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: debate here in Sky News at ten pm and levelnd
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Ray Farmer Sky News regular former policeman, all sorts of things. James,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: how bad is this looking for the government? Yeah?
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: This is pretty bad, Andrew on a number of levels. Firstly,
• 35:40
  Speaker 8: this is a government that promised us transparency, remember that,
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: and yet Tania plibisec won't even explain the reasons for
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: the decision that she's made. This is a government that
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: promised accountability and yet Tania Plibisek preferred to be in
• 35:54
  Speaker 8: Queensland than with the people of Orange. Explaining her decision
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: to the locals whom this will fact. This is a
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: government that bangs on and on continually about social cohesion,
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: and yet they're pitting one Indigenous group against another Indigenous group,
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: and they're pitting Indigenous people against non Indigenous people. And finally,
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: this is a government that promised they would govern in
• 36:15
  Speaker 8: the national interest. But no one can believe that this
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: decision by Tanya Plibasik is for any reason other than
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: to shore up votes in her own Sydney electorate where
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: she's threatened by the Greens. A similar decision to what
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: they've made regarding anti Semitism and immigrants coming from Gaza.
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: It's less about the national interest and much more about
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: shoring up their domestic political power. So on a number
• 36:41
  Speaker 8: of fronts, this is all bad for the government that
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: just can't seem to get clear air because they keep
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: making own goals.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Evelyn I thought it was really refreshing to hear an
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: undoubted were Aderie el de roy Chi making the critical
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: link that is so often forgot between aberginal welfare and
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: saying yes to those projects that actually earn money, particularly
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: well the gold mines or you can name anything uranium
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: mine which the government to ban the other day as well.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: That needs to be stressed, doesn't it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 11: Oh, it certainly does.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: It seems at the moment that you know that they're
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: hurting each other, they're hurting themselves, and it's really sad
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: to see because you know, like it was said, this
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: could really help a lot of the local people economically
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: in that particular area.
• 37:31
  Speaker 11: And you know, I think just the.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Secrecy part of this whole thing as well doesn't sit well.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: It leads a bad smell in the air for the locals,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: for everybody.
• 37:40
  Speaker 11: You know watching the train wreck from home. But you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 11: if I.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: Was an Indigenous Australian, I would be so offended at
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: the handling of this that basically processes mean absolutely nothing
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: here and that they can weaponize you know, Aboriginal culture,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: Aboriginal history like this, because unfortunately, this is what this sort.
• 38:02
  Speaker 11: Of precedent does.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: How can you confirm things if one group is saying
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: something against another group, which group gets priority or authority.
• 38:10
  Speaker 11: Over the other. And this is the mess of the
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: whole thing.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And it's not going to get any better unless there
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: is a process, and unless that process.
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: Is honored and adhered to.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: But I just feel bad for the people in the area,
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: the Indigenous people who are unfortunately going to be missing
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: out on economic growth, on potential job opportunities, and all
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: kinds of things because they can't seem to come to
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: a collective conclusion on all of this.
• 38:38
  Speaker 11: And shame on the Australian politicians who are.
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: Allowing the weaponization of these sorts of things to play
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: out in front of them and do nothing about it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: And tend to keep Aborigines a sort of museum pieces,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: imprisoned by the dreaming, not looking at the future, and
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: how to advance the people. Speaking of people claiming to
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: be Aboriginal, James the uncle of Ava superstar Dustin Martin
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: Dean Martin. He's a former boss of the outlaw Rebel
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Barking Group and he was being deported back to New
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Zealand where he was born. Is not a citizen here,
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: but the governors now had to let him stay after
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: he gavement document showing or suggesting he was Aboriginal. He'd
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: reported in discovered he was Aboriginal. He and his brother
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Shane got certificates of aboriginality from of all things, a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: board member of something called the Aboriginal sobriety group. Now,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know what other documents has found, but being
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Aboriginal matters because the High Court has stupidly ruled that
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: any foreigner with any Aboriginal ancestry, and even a criminal
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: foreigner at that, isn't an alien and can't be thrown
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: out of this country.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Fair enough, I can't look.
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: So what you're telling me, Andrew is the Australian government
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: recognizes this man as indigenous because he recognizes himself as
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: a Tasmanian Aboriginal. And that's confirmed because he's been recognized
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: by South Australian Aboriginals.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: So that's how.
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: They recognize him. I just want someone to explain how
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: we recognize our own country anymore. I've got a friend
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: who's blonde. She's whiter than me, she's got more money
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: than me, but because of her ancestry she has more
• 40:16
  Speaker 8: rights and more privileges in this country than I do.
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: I mean to even question this decision, you run the
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: risk of being called a racist, right, But if you
• 40:25
  Speaker 8: want to talk about racism, I was born in this country,
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: but because I have the wrong ancestry, I'm not allowed
• 40:30
  Speaker 8: to climb Mount Warning or climb Air's Rock and so
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: I'm glad they've recognized Dean Martin as indigenous. I just
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: want someone to explain how we recognize Australia, because it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 8: not the Australia that I grew up in.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Evelyn. What makes it so curious to something that James
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: touched on there? The certificate of Aboriginality of Martin's brother
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  Speaker 1: says it is recognized as aboriginal by the Norrangerie tribe
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  Speaker 1: of South Australia. But martin court documents say that he
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  Speaker 1: is a member of the Managan tribe of Western Tasmanian.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how a South Astraian tribe convouch for the
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  Speaker 1: aboriginality of someone claiming to be a Tasmanian tribe when
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  Speaker 1: the High Courts Marvo case gave a definition of aboriginality
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  Speaker 1: suggesting they have to be recognized by someone with and
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  Speaker 1: I'm quoting traditional authority among those people, which I would presume,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the same tribe, not a different one.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of this?
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  Speaker 4: There's absolutely no way you can confirm or deny any
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 11: And that's the problem.
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  Speaker 4: You know, should we be basing citizenships, you know, laws
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  Speaker 4: immigration policies or anything of things that cannot be proven
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  Speaker 4: beyond a reasonable doubt. I'm not so sure it's a
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  Speaker 4: great idea. I'm pretty sure most people you know in
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  Speaker 4: our country would think that that's not a good idea.
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  Speaker 4: And you know what, I think all of the other
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  Speaker 4: countries around the world should be watching us in horror, because,
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  Speaker 4: to tell you what, a lot of us Australians over
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  Speaker 4: here could have a lot of claim a right to
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  Speaker 4: lovely hills in Scotland or the UK, some lovely South
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  Speaker 4: of France villas that we all might claim if the
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  Speaker 4: world took on the same precedent that Australia is.
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  Speaker 11: But yet again, we are the laughing stock of the world.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if anybody saw what we were doing
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  Speaker 4: over here, they would think, my goodness, Australia has lost
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  Speaker 4: the plot.
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  Speaker 1: Evelyn. I've got more Dutch ancestry than this, a guy
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  Speaker 1: who's got oboriginal ancestry. Both my parents absolutely on Dutch.
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  Speaker 1: If I went to Holland and said, listen, you can't
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  Speaker 1: throw me out. I'm indigenous, I've had Thank you so much, Evelyn,
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  Speaker 1: Ray James me first, and thanks for your time. After
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  Speaker 1: the break Mega Markle explains her mission and my book
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  Speaker 1: of the week one Russell Crowe should think the political
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  Speaker 1: and media class West doesn't seem to understand how fed
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  Speaker 1: up so many poorer people are with mass immigration, especially
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigration. I mean, you just all that media criticism
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  Speaker 1: of Donald Trump for saying the Barden Harris administrations we've
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  Speaker 1: been letting in foreign criminals, let them flood it over
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  Speaker 1: the border. Yet you then get, indeed unconfirmed reports like
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  Speaker 1: this of Venezuelan gangs in Colorado taking over apartment buildings
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  Speaker 1: and robbing a jewelry store with violence. Reports also now
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  Speaker 1: from San Diego of illegal immigrants hijacking school buses. The
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  Speaker 1: group of migrants tried to stop another bus. Border Patrol
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  Speaker 1: CHP in the Sheriff's office have now been informed of
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  Speaker 1: these incidents. In Britain, same thing you saw the Ethnic
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  Speaker 1: rights this month against illegal immigrants. But Britain's new Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 1: Kias Starmer here's at least got a plan to stop
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  Speaker 1: illegal immigrants and how by not calling them illegal. Joining
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  Speaker 1: me from London, Patrick Christie's Star presenter for gb News,
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  Speaker 1: an astonishing and novel development. Explain it, please.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, so our new Prime Minister is doing an impression.
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  Speaker 3: Of me at a karaoke bar.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, completely tone deaf, and everything that comes out of
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  Speaker 5: his mouth sounds really offensive. So he's now not calling
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  Speaker 5: them illegal migrants. They are irregular migrants. Well, unlucky for him,
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  Speaker 5: we've had quite a few irregulars arrived since he came
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  Speaker 5: to power, twenty thousand so far this year, one thousand
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  Speaker 5: in the last week. If he can't name the problem,
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  Speaker 5: then how on earth can he sort it out. We also,
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  Speaker 5: it's emerged, have been sitting on five thousand empty hotel
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  Speaker 5: beds paid for by the taxpayer, just in case there
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  Speaker 5: is an influx of illegal migrants. We didn't know about
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  Speaker 5: that until quite recently. The only thing that Keir Starmer
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  Speaker 5: can do our Prime minister here is now worn about
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  Speaker 5: the rise of a far right political party. That's what
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  Speaker 5: he's warning against. He's trying to demonize anyone who is
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  Speaker 5: talking negatively about the way that he's going about tackling
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  Speaker 5: illegal migration or not tackling illegal migration. The other astonishing
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  Speaker 5: thing is that he's currently in Europe, in the continent.
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  Speaker 5: He's met with the German leader and the French leader. Now,
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  Speaker 5: his solution to tackling the illegal migrant crisis is for
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not joking now, the progressives of Europe to unite.
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  Speaker 3: Was the progressives who got us into this mess.
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  Speaker 5: Wasn't it throwing the doors open to you know, Syrian refugees,
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  Speaker 5: et cetera, et cetera, creating the migrant crisis?
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  Speaker 3: You know, so the progressives of the world will unite.
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  Speaker 5: Look, he's ignoring the concerns of everybody's approval ratings, for
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  Speaker 5: given that he's just been in power for about six
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: weeks or seven weeks have dropped by twenty seven points.
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  Speaker 3: He's now on minus seventeen. And if he wants to.
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  Speaker 5: Call everybody who disagrees with him far right, then one
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  Speaker 5: day he's going to wake up and realize that every
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  Speaker 5: single person in Britain apparently is far right because nobody
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  Speaker 5: is happy with what's going on at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe they're dropping the polls. It's just astonishing, Patrick.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, it's interesting that even some reporters there
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  Speaker 1: are asking legal immigrants the right questions when they're demanding
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  Speaker 1: even better food, free food and better free housing. Listen
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  Speaker 1: to this, Do.
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  Speaker 6: Grant me about accommodation and support, but they didn't.
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  Speaker 4: They didn't give me enough support.
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  Speaker 7: Some people may say that if you're uhappy with the food,
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  Speaker 7: you're unhappy with the accommodation, why don't you return to
• 46:24
  Speaker 7: Tanzania Because Tanzania is a safe country.
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  Speaker 6: So when I'm going back to home country, I'm gonna die.
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  Speaker 1: Well, bravo for the reporter for asking that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, but this is the kind of rubbish that
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  Speaker 5: we're seeing all the time. Okay, So it's basically impossible
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  Speaker 5: to deport anyone from Britain now because they can basically
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  Speaker 5: can coc something, They can go through numerous different appeals.
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  Speaker 5: They could even convert to Christianity. There was a chap
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  Speaker 5: who did that. He was involved in an acid attack here.
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  Speaker 5: He converted to Christianity, did launch a nascid attack against
• 46:57
  Speaker 5: a woman and then you know, he then topped him
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  Speaker 5: himself as a result of that, and then at a
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  Speaker 5: Muslim funeral, which I think tells you everything you need
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  Speaker 5: to know about the authenticity of some of the people
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  Speaker 5: who we've got here. But Kistarm's doing nothing. The only
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  Speaker 5: thing that he is doing at the moment which is
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  Speaker 5: really winding people up, is this idea. Now that asylum
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  Speaker 5: seekers could go to the top of the housing queue.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so that is a problem.
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  Speaker 5: There was a scheme for British homes with British workers
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  Speaker 5: that apparently doesn't exist anymore. And if people feel like
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  Speaker 5: second class citizens in their own country, he's going to
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  Speaker 5: have a massive problem.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, I've only got her half a minute or so,
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  Speaker 1: but an interesting interview in The New York Times with
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  Speaker 1: Megan Markle who said she was on a crusader to
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: make the world a bit of place originally, but now
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: she's told her that she's using her Royal glamour to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: promote clothes and especially bags. She's even invested in some
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: companies and says she supports designers and that I have
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  Speaker 1: a really good friendship with and smaller and up and
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  Speaker 1: coming brands. She says, that's one of the most powerful
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: things I'm able to do, and that's simply wearing like
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  Speaker 1: an earring noble work.
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  Speaker 3: Patrick, Yeah, I'll keep it brief.
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  Speaker 5: She is now a less successful Kim Kardashian, and if
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  Speaker 5: she is using the Royal brand to make money, then
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  Speaker 5: I think there's a case for King Charles Suinger for that,
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  Speaker 5: because that is bang out of order. She's trying to
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  Speaker 5: save the world one pantsuit at a time. It's not
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  Speaker 5: really I think finding freedom is it?
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  Speaker 1: Not quite? Not quite. That's just such a condown. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: there you go. Patrick christ is always great to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you. Thank you for your time. My book of
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  Speaker 1: the week, Look Get Away from It is from the
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  Speaker 1: all theest nonsense Patrick O'Brien, Master and Master and Commander
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  Speaker 1: Ripping Sea Yarns. Go get it from Robinson's book. As always,
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  Speaker 1: that's
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  Speaker 4: It for me.