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How He TRIPLED His Income In 8 Weeks Working a 9 to 5 (No Degree Required!) · The Table with Anthony ONeal

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  [SPEAKER_01]: Brother Lightning, man, welcome to the table, Doc.
• 0:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Glad to be here.
• 0:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, listen, I want to get straight into it because I saw your story, read your story, and meant a 79,000 dollar pay increase within the last, was it six months or 12 months?
• 0:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the last, technically six months, but the process took about 12 months.
• 0:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: 12 months?
• 0:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Brother, how, what, okay, what are you doing right now?
• 0:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then what did you do before you were doing right now?
• 0:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so currently I'm a project engineer within the National Construction Company, currently working on a billion dollar project.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 0:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what were you doing before Project Engineering?
• 0:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Before then, I was working as an anesthesia take in operating room.
• 0:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Crazy career pivot.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 0:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Above all, medical field, medical field.
• 0:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Into, what's the consider construction?
• 0:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Construction?
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.
• 0:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're making more money in the construction field than you are in the medical field.
• 1:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think it was possible either.
• 1:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, until I start looking at jobs, looking at the salaries off it, and I was like, yeah, I think I made the right decision.
• 1:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And do you have a four year degree in the construction area?
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I have an associate degree in
• 1:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, are you making, what's your salad?
• 1:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Give me a ballpark.
• 1:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, we got a lot of, are you married, single?
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm married.
• 1:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are you married?
• 1:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, cool, great.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Great.
• 1:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: He, he off the market lady.
• 1:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So y'all can't even slide in the DMs, all right?
• 1:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you make him six plus figures.
• 1:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 1:37
  [UNKNOWN]: Oh, my gosh, bro.
• 1:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: With no four year degree.
• 1:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: With no four year degree.
• 1:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you gotta talk about it, man.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you gotta talk about this.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Providing about it, I wanna go back before we talk about this.
• 1:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna learn a little bit more about you for the people watching.
• 1:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me your resume.
• 1:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like if we sit none at the cookout, you got your frapp, brothers, sorority sisters, the mama's and uncles, you know the homies, you know what I'm saying, sitting around the table and someone's new, how would you introduce yourself to family and friends for the first time?
• 2:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want me to be honest?
• 2:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Real talk.
• 2:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: My name is Rodney Stark.
• 2:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a cease-figure man.
• 2:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've ate it.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: We've said we made it.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you from, man?
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Give me the base of life.
• 2:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you from?
• 2:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you raised?
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where are you raised up at?
• 2:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Columbia's Georgia.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Columbia's Georgia.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm about a 706.
• 2:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: To the Bond Grisel.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: To the Bond Grisel.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
• 2:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, I love it, man.
• 2:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that man said, Yo, my name is Rodney Starks.
• 2:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Man, and I made it.
• 2:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a six figure.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't even be upset with that.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: How does it feel though to go from, I'm going to say what right around 40,000 to a six figure.
• 2:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm saying this figure's plus because I don't want to put his actual numbers out there, but he's making, he's not just at 100,000.
• 3:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's at 100 plus a thousand.
• 3:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: He's at 100 plus a hundred plus a hundred.
• 3:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, a hundred and twenty.
• 3:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, my man said, I'm gonna put it out there.
• 3:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm open book.
• 3:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I honestly, I honestly want to share this story because it's so many people I did.
• 3:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was in the situation that I was in.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about your situation.
• 3:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you say your situation, what do you mean by your situation?
• 3:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: my girl was pregnant.
• 3:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 3:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was standing in my mom's house.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 3:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just got fired.
• 3:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: From a previous job, you know, all I had was this certification to go out that was my only lighting at all.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really was.
• 3:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: In the meantime, I applied for different health care positions in order to carry me throughout this career.
• 3:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: But that's what I was.
• 3:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was.
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was.
• 3:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, Ryan, we don't get personal.
• 3:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: How do you?
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm 33.
• 3:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: How does your girl?
• 3:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's 30.
• 3:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's 30.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: How does your child, son or son or daughter now?
• 3:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: 16, my daughter.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Your daughter, okay.
• 4:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Congratulations.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
• 4:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: To you, to Anne, your lady.
• 4:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Married or young, engaged or your own relationship.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: We're married.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay.
• 4:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Officially married.
• 4:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: License of the marriage.
• 4:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: I love that.
• 4:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: So, let me get this straight.
• 4:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Two years ago, would you say you was going to put your mom?
• 4:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: How long ago was that?
• 4:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Two years ago?
• 4:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: 31 years old, lived in Luchema, girl guy pregnant.
• 4:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Was she living with her mom too?
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her parents?
• 4:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: She living on her own?
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She will go on.
• 4:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just got let go from your previous situation.
• 4:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to live right there a little bit, because I think oftentimes, men, we don't really have this conversation.
• 4:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I appreciate you being honest, upfront.
• 4:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: When you found out that your lady was pregnant with your beautiful daughter, was the first thing that went through your head.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I got to get this house built.
• 4:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got to get the house built.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got to get the house built.
• 4:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you two were talking about moving in together with a house.
• 4:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You didn't build a house.
• 5:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: When I'm there, I had a dream of passion, a life goal to get the house built.
• 5:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: My phone's got some land out in Georgia.
• 5:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: About 13 acres.
• 5:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I always looked at my path as being one that was a bit in conventional.
• 5:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to pay a mortgage.
• 5:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to get caught in a debt cycle.
• 5:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I wanted to actually build the house on the way that I wanted it.
• 5:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: And to only have what was left is the land taxes.
• 5:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 5:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So your goal right now is for you all to build the house dead free on the land that your family owns.
• 5:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll close our you to that.
• 5:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't started the construction process yet.
• 5:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But me getting the job and the construction industry was a part of that educational process, if you would.
• 5:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I looked at it almost like me putting myself through school and started getting the degree of paper degree.
• 6:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had a keys to my house and I walk in.
• 6:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And we talk, that's what lay me down the path.
• 6:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now we talk, and God, done.
• 6:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like you follow the vision and the path for your life, and included that inside of the new career field, where you're getting paid to learn about your end goal, which is built my home for my family.
• 6:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: bingo.
• 6:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could either pay to learn, go to school for it, or I could try to break into the industry and get paid to learn.
• 6:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what I'm doing now.
• 6:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every day is like class.
• 6:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every day is like.
• 6:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: In these past six months, I've learned more than most people.
• 6:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want to build another
• 6:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Project, yeah, it's so much information flying around so many experts that you can go to.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, day in and day out, office mates, executives, two executives right down the hallway, the president, right on the hallway.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the wealth information is just endless.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really is.
• 7:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't got to ask this question.
• 7:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm for all people, but you know, I have a heart for us.
• 7:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: What would you say is a ratio of black people in your field right now?
• 7:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's more than you would expect, okay?
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really is good.
• 7:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna say this, we're doing very well.
• 7:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our performance wise.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: Performance wise, what about income wise?
• 7:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Same.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because that field is going to pay you one because of the labor and two because of the contracts.
• 7:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's the biggest thing.
• 7:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we talk on good, right?
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get a $700 million check to build a building.
• 7:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can, you can pay some people pretty well, pretty new ones, on top of the salaries.
• 7:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: So they can structure and maneuver that, you know, how they will, you know, I know some people who live in RVs, you know, while they're on these construction sites
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Bingo.
• 8:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dang, I obviously, I see, you know how you live?
• 8:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, bro, and it's like for me it's what I hear you saying is people are saying, oh, let me get the bag.
• 8:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me live way below my means for a season.
• 8:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Come out of this situation sitting on six figures, sitting on whatever it is, then I take that bag and I go multiply that and invest in this home.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe another situation, I don't know.
• 8:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, that is, that is sweet.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is.
• 8:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Before we talk about how you got into the career, give us the updates, I know the ladies and we're not, well, okay, wait.
• 8:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So if you have a child now, are you all living together?
• 8:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're got a part meant, are you all still separate?
• 8:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like how does what's the situation right now?
• 8:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when I was a immigrant university, we had gotten an apartment in Atlanta.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay, couldn't break that lease, okay.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I went out to Alabama to start my career.
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so lady still lives in the Atlanta right now with like with the daughter and then you out there getting a bag.
• 9:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the goal is to bring them out there once the Lisa's over and start building the house and working and building the family.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Right.
• 9:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: The only correction I will make is I'm going back to Georgia to build a house.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you can go back to Georgia.
• 9:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now, can you do what you're doing remote or do have to be on site?
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have to be on site.
• 9:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so eventually you will transition back maybe in the same field but just in Georgia.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 9:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Or hopefully, you know, get a project out there in George?
• 9:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you go.
• 9:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this, bro.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you are in the construction project management career.
• 9:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: You transition from medical field into this career.
• 9:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was making, I think, what was his math?
• 9:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: 41,000 in medical field?
• 9:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, sir.
• 9:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: 31 years old, at 33 years old, you're making $120,000 in construction project management.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sir.
• 9:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 10:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Can you break down to the people who are watching this exactly what does construction project management mean?
• 10:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: If you didn't need four years and eighty thousand dollars in student loan debt, you needed four weeks and nobody told you that.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone said, go out and get that four-year degree.
• 10:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nobody said, there's a fast way to make that same paycheck.
• 10:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You see, the job that pay $70,000 a year doesn't care about your degree.
• 10:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: It cares if you know how to do the job and watch this do it fast.
• 10:27
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• 10:30
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• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about in tech sales, HR, construction, data, so many things.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Starting pays might be in between 60 to $100,000 a year, no classroom, no for your weight, and no drowning in student loan debt.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the degree I would say that doesn't even guarantee you, a job.
• 10:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: You see, but if you keep waiting, you stay exactly where you are.
• 10:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same job.
• 10:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's the same ceiling, but they exact same paycheck.
• 10:58
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• 11:01
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• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: construction project management basically means that you, you are like a liaison between the self-contractors who are contracted to actually do the work, like the electricians, the plumbers, the painters, whoever.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: You're the liaison between them and the owners of the project.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: God, because the owners don't necessarily know how parts go together.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: The science behind why epoxy cannot adhere to aluminum.
• 12:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, things like that, but that is the information that you communicate to the owners so that they understand, hey, what you might be asking for, might not actually be constructable.
• 12:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we can try to figure out in a so many different ideas to get you what it is that you might want, but we're effectively there to manage the construction and prove productivity as much as possible.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: and sometimes we have to get out in the field too.
• 13:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have to go out and inspect, we have to go out and take pictures.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes we have to go out and kind of audit something that might be going wrong, just so we can give the owner a full disclosure as to what exactly is going on on the project and what the most of the day status is of the project.
• 13:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was doing a research before you came today.
• 13:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of the information is saying, you need a degree to get into this filter more likely you do.
• 13:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Most of them have a degrees.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: So how did you get into this field without a degree in how much did it cost you?
• 13:45
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• 13:46
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• 13:51
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• 13:53
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• 13:55
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• 14:06
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• 14:17
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• 14:22
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• 14:26
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• 14:30
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• 14:36
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• 14:37
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• 14:48
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• 15:24
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• 15:27
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• 15:34
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• 15:38
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• 15:46
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• 15:48
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• 15:53
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• 16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like I, I like it.
• 16:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where you skeptical as a brother.
• 16:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: $500 for a boot camp.
• 16:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're saying, hey, you can get here, like like you this these are your words.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said you are that.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: So as a brother, where are you skeptical when you saw that originally I was because my introduction to course careers was to break into the tech industry.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 16:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: And in my research, I had learned so much about how tech was extremely accessible.
• 16:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, all you had to know was the information essentially.
• 16:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had to know basically the hands and out.
• 16:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: So whatever niche realm of tech that you were going into.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 16:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I would hear about different boot camps.
• 16:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Got it.
• 16:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I came across course careers.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was on YouTube.
• 16:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I was at a point in my life.
• 16:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just moved back to Georgia from a college and California.
• 17:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I just developed my own app.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so I really wanted to leverage that to get into the tech space because the appeal of working remote and also again increase in my income was extremely appealing to me.
• 17:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I got course careers and I enrolled into the IT course.
• 17:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to tell you right now, hindsight 2020, work on remote and money wasn't enough of a motivating factor for me to complete the course.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I quit.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Talk about that.
• 17:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why was it not enough?
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because everyone's talking about taking AI right now.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, everyone wants to get into it because it's like, well, I can work remote.
• 17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can make a bag.
• 17:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: I could do this.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: but you're saying that wasn't enough motivation for you.
• 17:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right.
• 17:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm glad you put this in there.
• 17:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: This caveat, as a brother, I think.
• 17:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some things just seem a bit like a gamble.
• 18:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: if you will.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have my degrees in Kenyzeology.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I know a sports science.
• 18:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know anatomy, biology, physiology, things like that.
• 18:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: So trying to pivot into the tech space, I just didn't think that I saw myself there enough to get through the course.
• 18:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I started thinking about things like a media income, okay?
• 18:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like I was kind of searching for a safe space or more or more of a comfort zone.
• 18:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Because I had to tell him in the house when my mom and so yeah, you know, it's pressure on myself Yeah, to get about the situation.
• 18:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could I could uh try to gamble on getting into the take-in-the-street or I could you know just apply for
• 18:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: a hospital in Atlanta, get on, you know what my 10-plus year resume and health care and be a lot more secure going that route and I think that's what happened my first time around with course career as you didn't have anything to do with the course.
• 19:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I felt like I was learning things.
• 19:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just where I was at in my life.
• 19:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't rooted enough in a purpose to get through that course.
• 19:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what would you say your purpose is now though?
• 19:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: To get that house built, to get that house built.
• 19:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll always ask this question, and this is why I love talking with brothers.
• 19:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I want to have more brothers on my show, man, because I think we need to show brothers what I'm hearing from you is, I have a purpose, I have a why, vision, I have a target.
• 19:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: and everything in my life has to support that vision, that why, and that target, including my job.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why the house?
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I keep hearing you like, say this house, and when you first met your wife, like, I had a dream house.
• 19:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why isn't why is getting this house built such a huge,
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: passion of yours, one word, freedom, freedom.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: We talking now, Doc, we talking.
• 20:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really is, I even did some traveling and learn how to grow my own food, I did.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this house of jibilting on how many acres is 13?
• 20:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Square footage of the house you want to build.
• 20:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It didn't got to be nothing immaculate.
• 20:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just need to get it done.
• 20:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: 1500 square feet, 13 acres.
• 20:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: You and your wife on this informant?
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I already did this informant on that land.
• 20:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 20:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it came back and taught them on the how to farm.
• 20:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Talk to your mother how to find that she got her she going honey do melons you're going cucumber tomatoes color greens of course they they native to Georgia so I mean you can you get throw them without even looking and you're going to have some some greens about the next year blackberries eggs right
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the house for you comes down to freedom.
• 21:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes it does.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: I always say to my audience and to my community that freedom is always to me better than being rich.
• 21:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that the only way for freedom are one of the ways, not the only one of the key ways to freedom for African-American specifically is ownership.
• 21:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think we need to own one our time, then own our homes, then own some level of stocks, which means we own other levels, other businesses, and then we also got to own some kind of business that we control that generates income that we could pass on to our children's children's children.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 21:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: That once we get those four things meant that level of freedom that we experience, it's just
• 21:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: that was built by black people, but not positioned for black people.
• 22:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, which I have amazing white people on my team who helped me expand, but they know I don't play about us.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And if the only way we can really get to freedom, not rich, I think the world wants us to be rich, but not free.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 22:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 22:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because you could be rich and still dependent.
• 22:23
  [UNKNOWN]: Ah!
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Shabba!
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh!
• 22:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: It could be rich and still be very extremely dependent.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Right now, what do you mean?
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: What do you mean?
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I know what you mean.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: But right now, but the people watching know.
• 22:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: For example, I got I got to these apples.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can be you can be rich and still depend on the food industry to feed you and once those Rolls restores.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean No, I'm working health cadence.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 10 years.
• 22:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: We had to mercy of whatever they put in in girls restores He didn't fool in the fast food and processed foods.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: You had the mercy of it But if you take into the land and getting it out of mud, so to speak
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are in full control.
• 23:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: You are in nobody's mercy.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You even save a lot of money from having to go pay for that, which is free.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: It comes out of the ground.
• 23:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: All the land going to charge you is a little bit of work.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I think the problem is, and I'm guilty to this.
• 23:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some things is, I'm guilty of it.
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: My thing is, I like education in that area.
• 23:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then, too,
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like the desire to do the work in that area, and I think you're absolutely right because I think for black people, we got to get to two important areas, our health and our wealth.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 23:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: And health, anything that comes from the ground is going to be healthier than comes from the grocery store.
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so I want to commend you and say thank you, brother, for
• 23:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: for that.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I even want to encourage you, and I'm going to get back to this because people watching the same way.
• 23:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: This brother's heat, heat dropping game, but I need you out to tell me how do I get into this field?
• 23:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me more about course every year's at a process, but I want to say bro, I think you need to document your journey.
• 24:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because the way you're talking right now,
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I would watch that.
• 24:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: The way you're talking about, hey, bro, I'm like the build house on 13 acres.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't only want 1500 square feet that I hear wisdom in you.
• 24:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, bro, I got one kid and one wife.
• 24:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't need that big of a house.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 24:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can, I need to get it built, get a roof over our head, but we own that home.
• 24:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: We own the land, we're paying taxes on the land, but what we're paying taxes on is also feeding us as well.
• 24:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it will feed my children, children, children, children.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 24:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I love the way that you think it.
• 24:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I love the way how you say your bro, I broke into the construction project management space because I want to build a house.
• 24:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm getting paid every single day to learn what I eventually want to do for my own family.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm making a $79,000 more than what I got my associate's degree at.
• 24:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's how you know you're walking in favor.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tell me about the court bro.
• 25:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: We don't win so off-scrips.
• 25:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna close my laptop Like we don't win so off-scrips because I'm like this like bro I get a lot of people to come on my show bro, but you want my favorite guest Who's not an expert because you went here like yeah bro?
• 25:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I ain't that guy You know I'm saying I I I see this I see where I want to go.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a father now.
• 25:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a husband now
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got two lives who depend on me and depend on the vision that I have.
• 25:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I had to make a move.
• 25:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now that you made a move, I want you to help other people make moves too.
• 25:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
• 25:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why should they go to course careers today?
• 25:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because when I look at course careers, y'all, and we're going to again have this link in the show notes.
• 25:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, let's put maybe a screenshot up there.
• 25:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, they have technology, but they have three other sections that they added.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: since the last time I've seen business is accounting property management data analytics HR human resources going back to yours medical device sales then he got construction construction project management construction uh what's that estimating it electrition and age back key and put me on my put me on my thing right here boy zoom in on me ahead let him see me I told y'all
• 26:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ace back, and electricians, AI can't touch that.
• 26:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you trying to tell them what you can get into the Ace back industry, and plumbing, and electrician industry.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Within the next six months, we're $500.
• 26:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, is it here it is because you know us we we talking black today.
• 26:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry about this white people We talking black today is this a scam you know that's what black people are gonna be thinking Yeah, this sounds like a freaking scam.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not it's not I'm I'm gonna say it is the only way that it won't work out for you Is if you don't have the purpose driving you to get it done
• 27:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: It really won't work for you because it didn't work for me the first time around.
• 27:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's that's a part of my testimony too.
• 27:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I enrolled into it with IT and I didn't quit.
• 27:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I quit on it just because I didn't see I didn't see that goal for myself.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't until like you said, I had to channel everything into one duration one vision that I had or to give for it.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to tell you no
• 27:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't going to take no points.
• 27:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, not at all, failure would not option.
• 27:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'm jobless at my mom's house and my girlfriend.
• 27:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't take a note.
• 27:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: There was no note.
• 27:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a fact.
• 27:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: There is no note.
• 27:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's a fact.
• 27:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: So if it's all nighted, if it's early morning, if it's going back to making a flashcards, the past is the exam.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: I failed the first time I took it, but I turned around and passed it.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, flying code, would you say course careers?
• 28:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Well, let me ask you this question.
• 28:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: The city signed up today.
• 28:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: What happens next?
• 28:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is that process like, are they getting a call or are they, are you sitting down with actual teachers or is it a self-paced, watch these videos only?
• 28:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Do they help you prepare for the interviews?
• 28:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: They give you, hey, here's the best companies to reach out into and here's how you should do it.
• 28:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, can you help us understand the process a little bit?
• 28:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 28:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Course career taught me valuable insights.
• 28:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: One on a job readiness and job searching.
• 28:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And also what the industry expectations are despite the as that they put out for the jobs.
• 28:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that was key.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: So when you sign up for course careers, you can sign up for the discord.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 28:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's involved with it.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you get support from other people who are taking the course.
• 28:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: You get support from the instructor himself.
• 29:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you have any sort of issues or problem figuring something out, it's a multitude of people that can actually help you out in the discord as well.
• 29:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: And when you sign up, it's more self-paced.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have a series of videos and quizzes at the end of each section to kind of prepare you for that final exam.
• 29:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the entire time is going over, I know with the construction project management course, I can't really speak for other courses, but this one, the introduction was more so soft skills about leadership.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: And things like extreme ownership being radically accountable with things, you know, taking initiative and ownership of things that may not even be yours because at the end of the day on the construction site, safety is the most important fact, but yeah, people's lives on the line and it is a dangerous job, you know, some projects that I worked on,
• 30:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: have been fatal.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that soft-skilled portion is you get to understand in a media that it is just as important as the X's and O's, if you will, the one plus one is equal to two.
• 30:18
  [SPEAKER_01]: And then it goes into more the technical side, the aspects of H-bag, the aspects of
• 30:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: the whole non-paying case work meal work, all of it, and how to manage it from all over all perspective, from the budget inside to different strategies on how to improve productivity if you run in some constraints.
• 30:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Also, be very key.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: They talked a lot about permits and certifications.
• 30:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, which about, which about a mix in the construction process.
• 30:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 30:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: So it's extremely informative.
• 30:56
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's extremely informative.
• 30:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: And as I was learned, I felt myself becoming more knowledgeable.
• 31:03
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I would have conversations with friends, my mom, my girl,
• 31:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it's just like, you know, you know, you got this new lingo right now.
• 31:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, you got, you got a different way to speak it.
• 31:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like you sound like you know what you're talking about now, right?
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: They know I'm enrolled in this, you know, there's a chorus, but they don't know what's coming of it except for my change in dialect, my change in vocabulary.
• 31:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 31:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: And so at the end, you take the final exam, you get your certification, and then that's when they kind of start walking you through the job market, certain jobs to load for.
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was told to apply not only for general contractors, but also apply for the so contract as two.
• 31:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, don't just aim for the big construction management companies, you want to aim for those electrical companies, too.
• 31:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: You want to aim for those plumbing companies, you want to aim for those
• 31:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, because like you said, I'm glad you brought this up about age-back and plumbing.
• 32:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: On the project that I'm on now, Billion Dollar Project, the biggest contract when straight to the plumbing and age back.
• 32:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are you serious?
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: The biggest one.
• 32:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hands down.
• 32:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm in the electricians and electricians for sure.
• 32:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm buying an Aspect company in the process of that right now.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just doing my research, man, I'm seeing you got to have the Aspect company on the personal and also they can operate on the corporate side of things as well.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 32:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And so to hear, you say that it encourages me because I think that we shy away from the jobs that are not sexy.
• 32:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, look at you 33 years old, you make an $120,000 a year.
• 32:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let's put this into perspective.
• 32:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: You're doing about 10, 5 to 10, what 10, 2 to 10, 5 a month gross.
• 32:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: As a young 33 year old black man.
• 32:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Is your wife working right now, too?
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: She is.
• 32:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 32:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: She is your first mom.
• 32:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: She works from home.
• 32:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: So let's say combined income, y'all bear minimum.
• 33:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: She got, if she enjoys it, she's making her 24 to 8,000.
• 33:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So y'all's combined income is at $15,000 minimum as a young black couple.
• 33:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: and it cost you $500 to get that and time.
• 33:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's your wife having a degree.
• 33:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: She has a master's.
• 33:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she's making more than four.
• 33:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?
• 33:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 33:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So you know what I'm saying about $17.5 now?
• 33:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, my baby is good.
• 33:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
• 33:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I ain't want to be a fencing, cuz I'm like, you're talking too black right now to be a fairer, too.
• 33:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: That could be disrespectful or a jeep.
• 33:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: You get me low, I might say something, I don't want a fair no body.
• 33:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: What they say was understood, don't need to be a jeep.
• 33:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't need to be a jeep.
• 33:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: The way you was dropping, I was like, oh, she is.
• 33:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the way he talking, I don't think nobody outside of a system can live with this guy.
• 34:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: But it's like my boy, two of my close friends just got married.
• 34:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of them he comes on my show every single, every single month, Courtney.
• 34:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: And man, just to see his glow from years ago to now being married to a sister.
• 34:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's just that the passion behind brothers, when we find that right one, it's just different.
• 34:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And then with you, it's not only did you find your favorite, your best thing, your partner, your lover.
• 34:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: But y'all generated a child, a human being, and it just sparked something inside of you to step it up, man.
• 34:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to say thank you for this, man.
• 34:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: What is a hardest thing?
• 34:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got two more questions and we'll be done.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was the hardest thing?
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: What was the hardest thing about this bootcamp?
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: That one was careers.
• 34:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, how long did it take you real quick?
• 35:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: How long did the process?
• 35:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I started in December of 2004.
• 35:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: OK. Got my certification August 1st, 2005.
• 35:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Seven months.
• 35:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you said that you failed it in the first time thing being honest and you went bad.
• 35:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So before you went back, you went back and you studied some more and then you went back.
• 35:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
• 35:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the course part was how long?
• 35:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: They gave you two attempts at the final.
• 35:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
• 35:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: For the first attempt, I feel.
• 35:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Second one pass with flying colors.
• 35:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: That course took from when I saw the email.
• 35:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised I went in the first one in roll.
• 35:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I saw that course careers have released the course.
• 35:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: The construction project management course.
• 35:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: prior to I had enrolled in course career so I still got the emails I didn't unsubscribe you know so you know you still got those those apps those you know whatever you signed up for yeah and so and a alert hit came on my phone and I remember I was walking to the door just gone from work
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I saw court careers now offering construction project management, and I was just like, this is exactly what I was looking for.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is what I was looking for right here.
• 36:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I immediately immediately enrolled.
• 36:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So from the time you enrolled to the time you finished the course, how long does that?
• 36:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: December, January, February, March.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Four months.
• 36:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Four months.
• 36:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you spent some
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was the four months.
• 36:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because my certification came a perverse.
• 36:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: So at that whole time, I was locked in.
• 36:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was locked there.
• 36:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And during those four months, what would you say was the most difficult?
• 36:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I hear some parents or some people saying, man, you know what?
• 36:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I got to kid.
• 36:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got a full time job already.
• 36:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't had a time.
• 36:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: At first, it was a time because I was working and then I got a fart of February 20th, but 25th.
• 37:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: So this is about month and a half, two month before I got my certification.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 37:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was studying at work.
• 37:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's how I committed that was.
• 37:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I had my headphones in and I'm watching the videos and I'm knocking out a couple quizzes here and there.
• 37:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm my downtime at work.
• 37:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, which wasn't allowed, but it is what it is.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you got a purpose, it's like, sometimes you can just make sacrifices.
• 37:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, as a man, it's just like, all right, this is, this is,
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: This ain't my call in any way, right?
• 37:32
  [SPEAKER_01]: This ain't my call in any way.
• 37:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: So now, after I got terminated from that job, of course, you know, I send out applications to get another LK job to carry me through.
• 37:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, career pivot.
• 37:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: However, I'm almost looking at it like, now I got more time.
• 37:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: Now I got more time.
• 37:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: to get to it.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yo!
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was no, I wasn't even upset about it, you know?
• 37:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, on my boss told me, you know, he's the terminator of the fate of a media that I was a high-pressure job for y'all the time and giving me a chance, I bounced.
• 38:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: And went back straight to the course.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's so dope.
• 38:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's why I say like, if you don't have a purpose driving you going in the course careers,
• 38:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Then it won't care you all the way because you won't utilize that information as a weapon.
• 38:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I really saw myself equipped in myself with information that I could weaponize in these interviews.
• 38:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I could showcase this information that I learned and you know, All I needed to somebody to basically take a chance on me.
• 38:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, giving my, giving my resume.
• 38:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not putting anything in the fears on my resumes.
• 38:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You say 10 years of construction and honestly, I mean, 10 years of healthcare and honestly, I landed a lot of those interviews because they saw my resume and it would like.
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: So what made you?
• 38:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: Want to interview?
• 38:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: What made you, you 10 years of healthcare?
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: What brings you here?
• 38:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I tell them.
• 38:59
  [SPEAKER_01]: the whole story.
• 39:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I recited this, how many interviews I had 14 interviews?
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: 14.
• 39:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I recited this 14 different times and the whole, the whole time my instructor was giving me guidance and each and every single interview I got better insight as to what was me and asked.
• 39:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: and what was kind of needed within the industry here.
• 39:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: And it should be told a lot of reals interviews.
• 39:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: They told me, you know, we don't really care about degrees.
• 39:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We don't really care.
• 39:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We just need to know that you're competent enough to get the job done.
• 39:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I like about construction I do.
• 39:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's very a meal oriented which can be a good and bad thing in some cases, but the thing about guys is that can you get the job done in the hot.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 39:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could have a fancy degree.
• 39:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: You could have, you know, XYZ, but cannot trust you to be confident enough to get the job done.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 39:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: And if they can trust you, bring them in, bring them in, and it took a chance on me.
• 40:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have a grateful for it.
• 40:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: Doc hands down.
• 40:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: I've been doing this for 10 years.
• 40:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of guests come on on my show and we've had some amazing guests outside of light my residential experts that come in every single month.
• 40:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: You might type three, bro.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
• 40:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a honor.
• 40:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I respect the realness.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: I respect you saying, hey, this is why I did it.
• 40:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: One of my good friends, and I call them my biblical mentor.
• 40:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Darrys Daniels says something to me years ago, said if you're why I don't make you cry, then a price of commitment will.
• 40:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what I hear you saying is, man,
• 40:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got through course careers, I went through this boot camp.
• 40:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: I got a $70,000 pay raise because I found something that aligns with my wife.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: And my wife, when I had to go to work and study at work, it got me through those days.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: My wife, when I found out that my wife, now, then girlfriend was pregnant, it made me step up even more.
• 41:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: My why is the reason why my family will be free?
• 41:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I love that probe because I keep believing and I keep saying this that freedom is better than being rich and how do we get the freedom is to ownership?
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: You said something is my last question for you, man.
• 41:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I want to say thank you so much for your time on this episode.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: You blessed us tremendously.
• 41:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: You all were going to drop course careers information inside of this show notes.
• 41:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go check it out.
• 41:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: 500 bucks.
• 41:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like my guy said, we don't drop 500 dollars on some dumb stuff already.
• 41:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: You probably don't drop 500 dollars within the last two weeks on something that gave you no value.
• 41:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: How do we turn that 500 dollars into another $80,000 situation on top of what you already have now?
• 41:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: But you said something, man, that my platform is built on.
• 41:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: That you said, man, I want to build the house with no dead.
• 42:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: At 33 years old, you could be in that house now if you went out there and find that.
• 42:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why the no dead route?
• 42:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Why do you want to take time to build it for your family with no dead?
• 42:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: The way that I see it is labor.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: and our fuse, our fuse to be that.
• 42:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Our fuse to be.
• 42:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: At 33, how long have you been thinking like that, that data slavery?
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: Since about 2018.
• 42:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, honestly, it was when I was on this, because when I was on this, yeah, wow.
• 42:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's when I started kind of really, really evaluating what it was that I was aiming for in terms of like, we all want house, right?
• 42:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: How do we go about getting a house and what makes the most sense?
• 42:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: Um, getting the mortgage, paying the house off, and still not truly owning it, you know, if I don't pay those property taxes, government, because they'll come snatch miles, like I ain't paid a penny on it, uh, didn't, that was deeply disturbing to me.
• 43:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even going to show the code.
• 43:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was disturbing to me, because I wasn't prepared to commit 30, 40 or 50 years long.
• 43:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was just came out.
• 43:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that you're alone just came out.
• 43:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to show in that crash.
• 43:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Call that crash.
• 43:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is crap.
• 43:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what it is.
• 43:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: It was disturbing for me to even think about committing that much time to something that I didn't truly, oh, gosh, you know.
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: So that's why I wanted to go to a building.
• 43:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, my house.
• 43:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.
• 43:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm what you meant and I'm going to be praying for you and when y'all buy the house I'm sending something to the house.
• 43:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sending the couch for something.
• 43:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I appreciate just someone in to good Ron at home.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm on it because I mean we got to have more conversations like this as black man as black brothers.
• 43:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I took out a 20 year loan on my own and just the other day I was talking to some of my friends and I was going back and forth like, man, I could pay off my house.
• 44:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just bought a big estate home and this isn't a seven figures, right?
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
• 44:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And some of my friends are, oh, you can, you know, put that extra money into the stock market and grow their investments.
• 44:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And three of my friends were black.
• 44:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: All three of them asked them, and they don't even know each other.
• 44:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, why did you pay off your house?
• 44:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they never bought another house again.
• 44:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: They paid cash for it.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: And those I broke freedom.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: All three of them.
• 44:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: I said, okay, when you say freedom, what do you mean?
• 44:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Bro, if I lost my job today, I know one thing for sure.
• 44:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: My family has a place where it,
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They'll have a roof over their head, right?
• 44:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: That will place the live.
• 44:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I don't have to scramble for a mortgage or a ramp payment.
• 44:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And exactly, I just got a scramble for food and how to keep the licensing utilities on.
• 44:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that is free knowing that my kids, knowing that my wife is good.
• 45:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, it doesn't make sense on paper, mathematically, but if that was the case, we wouldn't make a lot of money decisions, right?
• 45:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: But internally, as a husband, as a father, as a son who's a sheltering and tending to his parents, I know that the mandatory things, our cars and our houses are taking care of.
• 45:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can come up with a 1500 hours to get food, like an AC and heat on, how was I?
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they all let them know it's like,
• 45:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they say to me, as I'm in, we're honestly a little shocked and a little disappointed in you, A.O.
• 45:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: because you teach financial freedom.
• 45:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: And my mortgage is the only debt that I have.
• 45:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, I think you need to re-valuate that.
• 45:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And bro, I went home literally this spiritual side of me, walked around my house, and I felt my spirit saying, yeah.
• 46:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because when I die, I don't want my wife or my kids to worry about that mortgage payment and it will feel good to wake up on the first of them and I don't have a large mortgage payment as it goes out.
• 46:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying for the first time of my show, I've committed to paying off my house within the next 12 to 24 months.
• 46:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm not moving again.
• 46:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's a beautiful home, and this is where my family's gonna be at for a little while.
• 46:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's amazing.
• 46:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: And I wanna thank you, Bro, the fourth person, the fourth brother, the fourth black man to stand on that man.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: And what I wanna do is encourage you.
• 46:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: If they take you 10 years to get into the home,
• 46:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let it take you 10 years.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like stack that bread, get your wife in the child and now home because there's not a lot of black men and black women who sit here and say we are debt free all together consumer and mortgage right now Bro, it just push you on a different position to set your child up for a different type of thing
• 47:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: You really do, it really does.
• 47:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of learned so much, again, thanks to course careers, but understanding the construction of a house, you start to understand how we pay for things like electricity.
• 47:19
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 47:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Who creates the electricity?
• 47:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 47:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the seven generations as well as long as I could remember we can pay a Georgia power for sure, but that electricity, how do they harvest power?
• 47:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: How is power created this, um, you know, uh, water, even.
• 47:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine, just a little bit with a whale system, yeah, my father had a whale system, why he, when he moved into city, he hated it, could be in
• 47:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Ron, me and a man, bro, thank you for coming on, man, y'all, we're going to drop a Rodney's information inside the sonos if y'all want to check them out.
• 48:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to also drop course careers, information inside the show notes y'all, listen, go make that investment today.
• 48:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's honestly, and I'll say this, and it has, we promoted other boot camps, we're done.
• 48:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is the only boot camp we're promoted.
• 48:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Should we end the meal?
• 48:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you next