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Caroline Stanbury Interview · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling. Everyone, Welcome back to Drama Darling. Today's episode
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is going to be with the incredible Caroline Stanberry joining me from Dubai. Caroline.
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Hi, Yeah, Hi, I've been so excited to do this with
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you. I have to be honest, I'm oh, oh my god,
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thank you. Well, clearly I am of yours as well, and I
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have such a great time. I've had the best time doing impressions of you
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for a long time, and of course since Ladies of London. Then it
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was like when that ended, you know, it's so sad. The whole
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world is still in mourning over that. But thank god we have you back
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on Dubai and you know, it's great. We're in season two. You
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are the best part of the show. An is second. But thank god
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you guys are getting along because I'll tell you what, this is the show.
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It's you two, and that's what I tune in for. So what
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you know, being in season two and specifically you and Chanel being on the
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good foot as it were, how did that change things? How did you
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guys all of a sudden get to that place? I think what we understood.
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I mean last season I was kind of not myself anyway. I was
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doing, you know, getting married. I had done two rounds of IVF
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and some of these women are quite hard to deal with, as you can
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imagine, and so I was kind of like just startled all the time.
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And because I was on all those hormones. I wasn't very funny, and
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I kind of think it was just going was just so awful to do.
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And then I think with reunion went so low that I was like, I
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looked at Diane said, you know, we're either going to have to sit
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down together and see if you have any common ground, or one of us
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is gonna end up dead, probably me. So we went for a drink
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and actually I think we understood we we had a lot more in common,
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believe it or not, than we thought. And I think the telephone phone
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tag that gets done in Housewives, the only housewives can do, was what
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was keeping us apart. So many people pick up the phone don't say anything,
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but I heard this and actually, like idiots, none of us say
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anything right, right, And then the game of telephone begins. I mean,
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it's almost the worst. I feel like Brooks is the one who is
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always in the center of that storm. She is the eye of the storm
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of the telephone game. And I'm like, we're not you're not filming,
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we can't see what's going on. And then all of a sudden she shows
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up and we find out that she called Lisa, and Lisa heard from you.
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Or you know, and it's the story's all wrong. Always hard to
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catch up when she does it, you know, off camera, so hard.
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But it's hard for us too because we're like, we'll have left you
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know, like maybe a lovely group setting and thinking everything's all right. By
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the morning it's a complete hit show and you're like, oh my god,
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what am I cleaning up? And why to the productually? What's funny?
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In later Sorry and Ladies of London, we weren't allowed to call each other
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wow, which was actually better. So if we had an argument or whatever
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we actually had, like the producers were more like Nanny's so that we would
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actually have to leave off and start again where we left off, which is
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so much better. I think I totally agree. I was going to ask
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you, what did the producers say when now you're in the middle of this
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telephone game and they've got to edit around that. What do they say to
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you? Do they ever say you guys can't do this? Well? They
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get very annoyed, obviously, because it's very hard to explain to an audience
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why something has one hundred percent I mean, it's not you know a little
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bit, it's like it can be you know, three sixty change in an
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hour or you know, overnight and where they've left you and they don't have
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any of the footage of it, and they're like, Okay, this is
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a disaster for us because we have to tell the audience the story somehow,
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and none of it makes sense because it's like he said, she said this,
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and then you know, all hell breaks loose. So it's very hard
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for them. It's much better that we leave it where it was. But
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I think we were a much more civilized cast. Yeah, oh well,
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yes, absolutely, we did what we were told. You did what you
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were told, like good school girls, Yes, boarding school there you are.
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We're all used to being you know, if we're not being told what
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to do, we don't really know what to do, honestly, and I
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mean honestly. The structure, the strict structure of a boarding school or anything,
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if as it were. I find that a structure can be a good
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thing because obviously, you know, pushing against that on some level is the
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exciting part, because if the stakes are high, then you know, you
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know what you're up again against. I do want to talk to you about
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the boarding school thing. So I had a friend that went to boarding school
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in high school, not when she was your age, but and she chose
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to go, and I was like so jealous because I thought it was so
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cool and I used to go visit her and I just used to think it
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was so exclusive and so exciting. And but I can't imagine, like I
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have a seven year old daughter right now, and so you were is it
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eight when you first went away? Six? Oh? My crazy. I
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don't think they do that anymore. To be honest, I don't think you
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go that early. But it's yeah, I was like, you know,
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six or seven, not not not later. So you know, it's crazy.
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Most of the people I know that went to boarding school are still My
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brother went to eat, you know and eat and he said his friends are
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still in therapy. It's a terrible thing to do, really. But again,
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you know, this is not a conversation that she's funny watching, like
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you know, Kathy Hilton talking to Paris. She doesn't want to talk about
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it. My mother is exactly the same because you know, I actually believe
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they did They were doing the right thing they were doing at the time.
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You know, you do what you did if you were rich back then.
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You know, everyone did it. It's like you home, you may as
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well be poor. So you know, it was just it was the done
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thing, and they you know, it's very hard to make them apologize or
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understand for something they thought they were giving you the best. So and it's
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at some stage they're just too old to understand or change or and there's nothing,
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there's nothing that they're not going to be able to take it back.
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So it's not a conversation that you need to really have. I mean I
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had a little bit of one on the Housewives, and it was it was
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very funny. I don't know if it's been out yet on the season.
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Oh, you do talk to them, it really I do talk to my
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mother and you're going to die laughing when you see her response because it's just
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it's mind blowing and I'm like, no, that's not really how it was.
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But anyway, yeah, wow. I mean I think a bit of
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me with my mum in Ladies of London. We're very funny. We're really
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good at speaking about not much. Did she Was she at boarding school as
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well? Were your parents? Yes? And you know, fiercely independent.
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I think her father died when my mum was very young and all at boarding
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school. Basically saying daddy, Dad, you know, died and you know,
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don't worry, darling. Continue. So you know, my mother's up
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very much the same way. So you know, it just is. It's
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a very British, it is. I think it's changing now, it really
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is. None of us have sent our kids to boarding school. My brothers
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haven't, you know, and they all went, So nobody has sent sent
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their kids. Isn't that funny? It's wild, I mean, because it's
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going to be a whole different era, a whole new generation of when people
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with feelings imagine that, how do you feel you're gonna be, you know,
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one of the few left with no feelings. That's gonna be weird.
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I know. No, I actually think you are filled with amazing feelings and
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clearly you you know, whatever boarding school was good or bad, it's made
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you an incredible human being. It's it's what I'm sure gives you, has
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given you the strength to be who you are. And oh but also your
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one second, my son is calling hang on towards me, speaking of your
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kids. Yeah, I'm all resumed, but I think that it's it's made
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you who you are, and you are a personality that we watch on television
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who we love and admire. And I think that what you do with your
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with your strength and call it what it is, if you're burying it through
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humor or whatever. I mean, who isn't doing that? You know how
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everyone has their stuff and everyone is coping. And I also think that it's
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a story to be told. You know, I would be interested. Have
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you ever thought about writing a book about your experience in boarding school or that
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the culture of that. I haven't, actually, and maybe I should.
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You know, you're right, I don't. I'm not very good, and
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I think that that's something that I have. I don't have the best memory,
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and I wonder whether that's from blocking it out, to be honest,
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So that would be odd for me. I mean, I can I can
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think of certain I mean, And what's crazy is I spent from six to
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eighteen there, so like most of my life, and I do remember,
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like things like I used to come home twice a year in the end,
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you know, three times a year. That was it because it was so
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hard to go back, you know. I used to hate going home and
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then having to go back, so I just thought I'd stay. And you
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know, once you're used to it. You know, once you're in it,
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you kind of get used to it. But it's it's a really hard
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hard thing to do because it's like being in the army. You're woken up,
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but with a gong. You know, you're told. So it's like
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a shock every morning. You never prepare yourself to get Someone comes and bashes
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a gold room and then you all line up and it's like, you know,
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you all march down to the to the It's very English. It's a
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very very weird way to grow up, and you know, yeah, and
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I can't really explain it. I probably should write a book, but I
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mean, I I you know, I would people be interested in that?
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I don't know absolutely. I mean also if it's becoming a bygone era of
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sending your kids away that young, I mean I am very intrigued by that
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personally. So look, you've got one one audience member that you could sell
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a book to. That's me. That's one book sold. So one book
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sold. But when you did, didn't you do like a hypnotherapy thing?
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Yes? So how did that go? What was that? Like? Well,
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she's amazing. So basically I've met Princess Diana, you know, a
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few times, because my son's my sons, my brothers were in the same
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class as William and Harry. And she's she's come to our house a few
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times and she was gorgeous. But she was Diana's, uh, Diana's hypnotherapist
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for many years and just got this very calm way about her. I mean,
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I don't know, you know, like I think it's it's just the
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state where you sort of remember things and she asks you specific questions. It's
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sort of it's it's a very interesting you learned some things, like I learned
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the way why I am the way I am where you know, there's a
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I have two kinds of Carolines where I have a weekend carolineus. I'm always
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looking for the weekend for a good time, Like I get through things and
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then I look for the happy times because that's what I used to do at
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school, you know. And there are I'm very very tough. I don't,
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you know, show my emotions too much. So when I've made a
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decision, maybe I'm a bit like a man, you know, Like when
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I've made a decision, I've made a decision. No matter how hard,
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I can move forward. But I think that's because I've always been. You
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know, when you're in boarding school, no one's coming to help you through
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things, right, so you get very buying and by yourself and solving your
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own problems. Even if you're in floods of tears, you're solving your own
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problems and working them out for yourself. So I will thank boarding school for
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that, because nothing has killed me yet, and I get through everything because
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I can lie back and sort of helicopter a situation in my own head.
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I don't need a million opinions. I'll come out and go I do.
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I love that. That is, honestly such a gift to have the independency,
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the strength within and when most people would just fold and not know what
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to do or crumble. I've never done hypnotherapy before, always been a little
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interested. It's kind of like one of those things where I'm like, well,
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if I don't believe in magic, how's it gonna work? You know
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what I mean? I don't either, But she's there's something. If you
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ever want an introduction, I'll introduce you with pleasure. She's wonderful. She's
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my neighbor. Weirdly wow, so moved here as well. So I absolutely
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love her and I see a lot of her, so that's great. What
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was it like meeting Princess Diana and in her coming to your house? I
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mean I was so young. We used to have she used to come like
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I remember one time she came back from Ludgrove with the boys and they were
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so that she was running around the pool. She was really fun. You
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know, it was a time where she had the really and you know,
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just blue jeans, white shirts, and she was just running round our pool
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out in had an indoor pool. She's just very very nice, very you
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know, gorgeous human. So she was just like a regular mom that was
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coming over for a play date, completely regular mom. But we grew up
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like that. You know. I've had the pleasure of like meeting most of
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the royal family and the Queen everybody, you know, like very very lucky,
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and they are all when you're put in front of them, they are
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normal human beings. It's like you know, fries, they eat breathing,
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just like all of us. When she was at your house, do you
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have to do anything special? Like do you have to do a curtsy or
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a bow or anything like that? And we always did that, always curtsied
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and you know, I always like, no matter what I've been to Sandrum
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and all of that, always curtsy and be, you know, have the
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what do you call it, the etiquette to sort of greet people the right
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way and then you're normal. Gosh, that's a wild And at that point,
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where was she in her life with so she obviously divorced. The boys
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were at lud Grove, So that's the first school, so that's like they're
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not even they haven't left for the secondary. So that's up into twelve,
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isn't it. So then now my brothers were there there. I'm forty eight,
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so I mean, it's a long time ago. It's when she had
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the short curly hair. You remember when she had the like short back and
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wow, like not the bob but the short back. Oh my god,
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I don't know how old I must have been, maybe twelve. Wild just
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wild. I mean it's so cool. So all right, let's kind of
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pivot back into to Dubai. So season when you were saying season one,
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you weren't really yourself. I guess now that you're explaining it, like,
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looking back, I believe what you're saying obviously, But to me, I
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was just like, oh, thank god, Caroline's back, and you did
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seem you know who you are and all that stuff. But you know,
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I didn't realize did you share with us that you were going through IVF at
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that time? No, not really. And the girls, I mean the
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girls knew, but they never really asked. I mean the thing is again
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else I didn't get on so well with last season, and I think,
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you know, that's quite personal obviously, you know sometimes when you're with they,
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you know, when we were in the desert for the finale, I'd
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taken my injections there, but you know, you're not in the best of
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moods when you're you know, pumped full of hormones. I mean, I
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think I got fifteen eggs, so I was basically, we're not even a
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cow get to be a dog giving birth to fifteen puppies. So like I
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was really uncomfortable. I'm a bit rumpy, you know, I think,
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see me a bit more relaxed now, right, Yeah, it makes sense
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when I did IVF also, so I get it. And I mean to
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be filled and having to like get ready and just look great. When you
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do, you feel like you're carrying a round of litter, Like you're carrying
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around a litter of puppies when you're gotta add in you know, two or
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three women that want to fight with you at the time, and you're like,
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okay, you know, I mean literally you want to murder yourself anyway.
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So, you know, I think I went into like there are some
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scenes where I just don't talk, which is just unlike me, you know
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if you know. So I was just so silent and then the producer would
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be like, you've got to actually say something. I got lovely, Dad
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just got this conversation makes so much sense now, yeah, yeah, so
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I now I think, you know, in this season. What I mean
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is obviously I was me in the last season, but I'm just more relaxed.
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You'll see, like, you know, I've got the eye roll.
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I'm just back. I'm like whatever. I can take anything at this point,
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but bring it on. I think when you're pumped full of hormones.
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You know, I was scared that I was just going to start crying when
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they said hello to me, disastic because that's not who I am. No,
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people would be like, oh my god, who is this person?
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Well, exactly like on the island when I was crying, you know what
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I mean. Like, who is this person? Yes, well it was
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kind of nice to see. I mean, it's always nice to see different
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emotions and different sides. But now we know, and you're right, there
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is a vast difference between last season and this season. I'm glad you got
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through that. Well, I didn't even know I had tear ducts till lift.
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Well, are you sure they weren't installed when you had your facelift?
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Well that was before, wasn't it. But no, that's true. Well,
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It's so great because it doesn't look like you really did anything. That to
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me is and I don't want to like be I don't want to necessarily be
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like comparing and contrasting facelifts. But there are other housewives that we've seen do
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it, and you can tell right away, even after their face has settled
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in, that they've had a facelift. I cannot tell with you. Where
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did you get yours done? Was it in Dubai? Was it in Los
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Angeles? Oh? It was yes. I went to BRAG and landed it
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back in LA at like one in the morning, and by five am I
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was on the table. Crazy. Wait, you went to Bravo con and
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then you went from So you went from Vegas and then you went to LA.
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The next morning you were on the table at five am. Yeah.
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Yeah, you should get a raise just based on that. Now that's commitment.
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You're like, I'm not wasting any time, you know, that would
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be great. So wait, okay, so you got your face lift in
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LA. Who was the doctor that did it? A guy called Steve Kim.
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And actually I'll tell you why I chose him. I mean, he's
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not a named surgeon. It's just that cat sadly used him and I think
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she looks unbelievable and normal. You know, when you go to a I
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mean you may not know, because I'm sure you haven't looked into facial surgery.
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But if you go to a surn I do. Yeah. Well,
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normally you go into their room and they kind of show you all these women
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sixty years and plus. Right, that's not me. So how do you
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choose which one looks good? Of course they look great now, but like
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you know, they don't look like me at the beginning, so you know,
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it's people that really needed it. So I didn't really you know,
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I had like my neck was going, this was coming down. And then
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I saw cats and I was like, well, she's same age as me.
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She looked great. She just you know, needs aug and she looks
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unbelieva. It's her, but twenty years younger. She looks incredible. So
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what is the decision that, Like, because you're on the very young side
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of getting a facelift, So why did you decide to do that? If
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you don't mind me asking, because you've been very open and transparent, which
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I love, by the way, do you mind me asking you some questions
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about it? Everywhere I think forty million people watched my facelift somehow not realize
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that, but apparently women all want to do it, and they you know
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that. I get so many questions every day because you know, I'll tell
24:52
you what made me do it. One is I saw I had terrible,
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like Drewpy eyelids, So you know when you see that, all those like
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even now when you see this season, it's my old face, so you'll
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see the really bright eye shadows. They do all that to kind of open
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my eyes because they were looking so close. So I wanted that off desperately,
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And that's life changing. I don't even need the makeup anymore. Like
25:15
I can wear no makeup. I've never been able to do that because the
25:18
makeup hit the gels coming down, it may hit them on the neck and
25:23
all of this, and it's just now I feel just I just need a
25:27
little bit of makeup, tiny bit of eye shadow, Like I mean,
25:30
wait, you see me reunion compared to the other girls, I'm going to
25:33
look like I've got no makeup on. I'm going to do no makeup makeup.
25:37
Yes, you're gonna be like the Pam Anderson of Dubai. Yes,
25:41
exactly. Housewives because you know, Housewives. It's always so much that song.
25:47
Yes, it's so much. I just like so when I look at
25:51
you, I absolutely see you know you're refreshed, but I would never know
25:56
that you had a facelift. So my question is you know the area,
26:00
So if you're watching this, the area right here on your neck that like
26:03
you start to see the lines come down and this lighting, the lighting I
26:07
have is really good, so you can't really quite see it. But the
26:11
lines here, like, does it do like does it fix that? Or
26:17
just the lines in your neck, like the wrinkles I'm talking about the sagging
26:21
skin under the chin. No, it does fix that because it comes that
26:26
they pull up behind your ear, okay, and did they pull up over
26:29
your k eyes too? That's no. I didn't touch up there, and
26:33
I think that's why I look normal. I didn't touch my eyebrows at all.
26:37
And I think the moment you do that, you begin to look a
26:38
bit weird. I left all of this like this, and then they just
26:44
took off the eyelids but straight, and then all of this neck deep lane.
26:48
But apparently it's still called a full facelift. By the way, I
26:52
think that's just called an eyebrow lift, which I didn't do. Okay,
26:56
And so if you've seen Jill's Erin's facelift, I mean I saw she was
27:00
bandaged. I haven't seen the finals. Is it good? Okay? Yeah?
27:03
No, I because that's what I was going to say, you know,
27:07
to compare and contrast, because she did. She must have done up
27:10
here because that's why it looks so different. And hers hasn't settled in yet.
27:14
So I don't really don't know if the final product Mu's look crazy right
27:17
now, probably, but it will go down. I when I have based
27:21
one for the first few weeks, obviously you're you're so tight it's crazy because
27:26
and he said to me, you're going to feel like that because we have
27:30
to do that because you're so swollen. So when the swelling goes down,
27:33
otherwise your skin is going to be too stretched. So they have to make
27:37
it super tight. They took three and a half inches off my neck shut
27:41
it right now? Yeah what so like I'm standing in the oh, there's
27:48
millimeters three and a half inches. But you know what else they did.
27:52
They took four and a half hours to do mine because they took out all
27:56
my fillers, everything, so everything is mean they take out your fillers.
28:03
Yes, so I've done all my jaw for so many years to make my
28:07
jaw you know, really strong and pronounced with piller. So of course that's
28:12
why they must have got so much off my my. Oh yes, of
28:17
course, now it's my jaw, and you know it's it's the best thing
28:25
I've ever done. If you're thinking about it, I am not going to
28:26
talk you out of it. And I don't mean you, I mean any
28:29
women living. I think, if you want to do it, this is
28:33
not only is it the perfect age because you don't look really weird, you
28:37
know, suddenly you know you've got a sagging face, and then the next
28:40
day you look like, you know, twenty years younger. I didn't want
28:42
my children to feel that I look different or to get scared, and I
28:48
just think, you know, I look fresh and natural. I really do.
28:51
I mean, I you know, nobody even like nobody has said that
28:55
I'm delusional. No, no, not at all. This is this That's
29:00
why I really love my One of my co hosts and I always talk about
29:03
how we appreciate when a housewife is transparent about the things that they do and
29:08
what they're up to. And what they're into, because you can't really hide
29:11
anything from the cameras, for one, although you could have because yours is
29:17
so natural looking. But that's why I appreciate you talking about it, because
29:21
you know, women should feel empowered to do the things that they want to
29:23
do. And that's why we watch a lot of these shows too, as
29:27
it's aspirational. I also don't think that you know, doing what I do
29:33
with a podcast and all of that, and you know, to tell women
29:37
that this is what a normal woman looks like at forty eight would be,
29:41
you know lying. I mean I still have you know, my hands are
29:45
aging. You know that that is just what's going to happen. So you
29:49
know, I want to be honest. If these things are available, I
29:52
mean obviously I know it is expensive, and I know how that sounds,
29:56
but they are available and it can be done. Because I did not know
30:00
what a facelift was really, I didn't know anyone that's had one other than
30:06
seeing cats. I just knew that I wanted to do it eventually, I
30:10
you know, and I just went for it. And I can't tell you
30:12
how happy I am. Wow, now that you've got your refreshed and rejuvenated.
30:19
What is the status with the surrogacy and the IVF and everything with the
30:26
baby because we're left off in this past season with you guys in your new
30:32
home. You've got a baby's room in the basement and I'm just kidding on
30:38
the first floor with my other children. They're next to me and I can
30:42
hear them screaming, don't worry, but I don't know. It's still it's
30:49
ongoing. Now we're looking for surrogate. It's become legal here in Dubai.
30:55
I no way, are you serious? When did that happen? Literally weeks
31:00
to go? That's it? Like, my gosh, that is unbelievable.
31:04
Yeah, it is. I mean, Dubai is really coming on leaps and
31:07
bounds. And that's what's so interesting about what you're seeing because as the show
31:11
unfolds, so much is changing for Dubai. You know, we are one
31:15
of the first ever reality shows, and sarrogacy, living with a man when
31:19
you're unmarried, all of these things have changed which you couldn't do before.
31:23
So it's a fascinating time to follow some you know, a backdrop like Dubai,
31:27
and of course it's the number one tourist destination in the world right now.
31:32
So everybody is moving to Dubai for like god knows what. So it's
31:36
amazing. There's seventeen million visitors last year. Wow. But you know,
31:41
the surrogacy thing, it's a big decision, you know, it's really,
31:45
really, really hard. I wish I could tell you. I'm going through
31:48
the motions and we're looking, definitely looking, and we have the embryo.
31:52
Sergia would like to do another round of IBF. I'm not really sure.
31:56
I mean, I don't even know what that would do to the facelift because
31:59
I I put on eighteen pounds with the last one, which is what it
32:02
up to. Zempic. I'm sure you know about that. That's oh,
32:06
that's right, yes, yes, of course. Actually it wasn't so Zempic.
32:09
I'm going to correct. That was Maunjaro, I think, And then
32:12
I tried Trapezia too, but they all do the same kind of thing.
32:15
But I think I had problems with them, you know, not feeling well
32:21
on o Zempic. But you know, I lost all the weight afterwards and
32:25
it was an ordeal. It did not drop off. I mean, when
32:28
I was in my thirties, I could use weight just by you know,
32:30
looking at a lettuce. Leave now it's you know, it's so hard,
32:36
it's so hard. And I looked like I was on a boat with Sergio.
32:38
I looked like I ate him. It was the daily mail that kicked
32:42
me, kicks me into doing something about it. I've never seen any My
32:46
boat needed in my boat. My bum needed its own boat. My boat
32:52
needed daily mail. How dare you? Well? You looked great then you
32:58
look great now. But I again thank you for normalizing this because I think
33:04
that women, you know, become as we get older, it gets so
33:08
much harder, especially if you've done IVF, perrymenopausal, menopausal, you name
33:15
it. And these are all factors that have so much to do with how
33:19
why you can't lose weight. I read about you talk to women all the
33:22
time who are like, I'm in the gym, I'm active as hell,
33:24
it's not coming off, you know. So again this is this is the
33:30
unfortunately, the type of stuff that we have to deal with as women.
33:32
So when you now you've gotten your body under control, that's a tough decision
33:38
if you're going to do IVF again, and you know, the surrogacy thing
33:42
and of going back my kids at the age where they're all about to leave
33:46
home. But I understand, you know, I chose a husband who is
33:50
twenty nine, well you know, twenty nine years old now, and at
33:53
the end of the day, you know, it's a completely natural thing for
33:58
him to want to at least have one, and I do understand that,
34:00
and he would be He's the most loving human on the planet. Like I'd
34:05
love to give him anything because he's just so sweet, Like I mean,
34:08
you know, let's face it, Sergia will do all the work happily.
34:12
Yeah he will. He will, so you know, it's not even even
34:16
though we joke about it and we make fun of him, he doesn't mind.
34:20
He's got a really good to the sense of humor and he's self deprecating,
34:23
and he'll be fine, Like, well he'll be like what's that two
34:27
men in a baby? He will, he'll be both men, I mean,
34:32
because I mean he seems fine with being like the number one caregiver.
34:38
Yes, that's what he wants. Yeah, he's you know, I think
34:43
Sergio was put on this planet to just give love. That's who he is.
34:45
And I'm horrible, I'm awful, Like I'll you know, he'll be
34:50
like he'll be lying in bed in the morning he goes kiss and I'll be
34:52
like, no, you know, and he'll be like, I never thought
34:57
i'd be lying next to my wife and he goes with somebody. Oh that
35:01
was it. We were walking down the street in New York and he went
35:05
to go and put his arm around me and give me a kiss, and
35:07
I'm like, oh, get off me, Get off me, And there's
35:08
a couple behind us. He goes, no, that's my wife. And
35:13
he's like, because can you imagine what this looks like to other people?
35:19
You're like, man, do you need some help? Ma'm you know,
35:23
it's just my absolutely despise him, but I love him to death. I
35:30
mean it is really it's amazing. The yin and yang that you guys are
35:34
is something. It's special because can you imagine, like, if you were
35:38
with somebody who was exactly like you, it would be terrible, And if
35:43
he was with someone who was exactly like him, it would be nauseating,
35:45
you know, nauseating. We discussed it all the time. I'm sure there's
35:50
a happy medium. This is ridiculous. You know. Literally, he's like,
35:55
can I have a hug? And I'm like, I don't do those
35:58
this morning and I was like, I just don't do them. I overheat,
36:01
overheating, get off. And that's literally what I say, I really
36:06
do, And I'm like, I might be a metopause. Don't touch me.
36:09
But it's very very very funny, and you know, we we just
36:15
lean into it now because no one stands our relationship, you know, and
36:20
that's all right. No one really has to know. And I actually love
36:22
seeing it. I feel like I do understand it in a way because it
36:29
does make sense. So when when have you guys already had your reunion?
36:35
I can't remember. No, we are coming to New York in August.
36:38
Okay, wow, how will the season continue on? Like at this point
36:47
we've gotten you know, we're only a few episodes in, so we're seeing
36:51
obviously the bubbling up between you and Brooks. Lisa is involved in that too.
36:59
Brooks has got stop with this, like creating drama where there's no drama.
37:04
Why she wants you into lean to be so like upset at each other
37:07
is beyond me. Brooks just wants me dead, I think, I mean,
37:10
it's just like I just I think my favorite scene is when I walk
37:15
into the party, Hello, hello, and she just goes cunt. I
37:21
literally haven't done anything. I've said hello. She's a piece of work.
37:27
But she's really busy. She's working so much. She's working so much.
37:30
I mean because none of us, no, no, nobody else. She
37:34
can't even eat. She's like working so much. She just can't eat.
37:37
Oh, what are we gonna do? But she's got a child, Like,
37:40
let's give her that. She's got a child, Okay, I will,
37:45
so she all right, So where do we end? I mean,
37:47
obviously, I know you can't give spoilers, but where do we see the
37:52
season go before we get to this reunion? Well, Brooks and I are
37:58
still alive, so no one died, okay, and you know we're all
38:01
pretty much in the same place. You'll see it just it escalates quite a
38:06
lot. We've got our cast trip coming now to Bali, and that's like,
38:09
I don't know what happened to me. It was like girls gone wild.
38:15
So I'm excited to watch it with you, but I'm also a little
38:20
bit nervous because there is a lot and I'm just gonna not spoil it,
38:22
but there is a lot of wooden penis in it. Wooden Oh my god,
38:27
is it Tom Sanderval's wooden penis flute. There was no back together.
38:32
There's no man attached to my wooden penis. Oh good, thank god.
38:37
By the way, do you watch any other Bravo shows? I watch what
38:40
I can so. I love Below Deck, I love Captain Sandy Y.
38:46
Yes. I watch all the Housewives because I'm obsessed. I've always loved Housewives.
38:51
I mean, I think, as you said, especially with the world
38:52
being the way it is, it's such a good sort of put on the
38:55
TV. You don't, you know, you don't really need to listen to
38:58
everything. You can do other things, catch up. I just love it.
39:01
I love it. It's back, it's it's it's just so good.
39:06
And I love all the selling, you know, all the real estate ones.
39:08
I just you know, I'm about to dive into the new Ryan Surhant
39:15
Owning Manhattan, that new show on Netflix. Just watched it free. It's
39:20
good. Oh, really very good. Yeah. I love all the house
39:23
ones too, because I'm big on, you know, doing, I'd love
39:25
to have a house show, you know what I wanted to do. I
39:29
made a trailer for it. You remember who would through the keyhole? Who
39:34
would live in a house? Like this, No you don't remember that was
39:37
on. It's like so basically you go around people's houses and you have to
39:40
guess whose house it is by all the things that are in it. So
39:45
it was an old show, but it was very big. It was called
39:50
three through the Keyhole and you got to peek into people's houses, see the
39:52
way they lived, and then guess the celebrity that lived there. Oh my
39:55
god, that is so cool. I've never heard of that, do I
40:00
not? Was it a British show? Maybe it was, come to think
40:04
of it, Yeah, Through the Keyhole look it up, very very good.
40:07
I will I would love to see you do any kind of spin off.
40:10
I think that would be great. I would love to do it.
40:14
Yeah, how is your house? Sorry? Fish out of water? Imagine
40:19
throwing me into an American town somewhere, making me like l cows. Okay,
40:23
so did you must have seen Crappy Lake with Luanne and Sonia. But
40:29
I would love to do that. That would be perfect. You would be
40:31
perfect for that, you because they I mean, if they ever do it
40:37
again, which I think they should, it has to be the right personality
40:42
and you think about like all the housewives, that would be able to do
40:44
it, and not a lot would be perfect for that. You. I'm
40:47
trying to think who else you could be coupled up with. I'll get back
40:51
to you on that one, but I think that'd be great. Your house
40:54
looks great. Are we going to see? Wait? Wait, have you
40:58
started shooting this the next season yet? Third season? No? No,
41:02
no, we haven't even we're still airing now, so we're not shooting.
41:07
We don't even know you. They don't tell you if you have even the
41:08
third season until we're at the end. Okay, but yeah, but my
41:13
house is very We're in it. Yeah, it's hilarious. There was a
41:17
guy like in a gas mask stepping over you with your eyemask on, sleeping
41:22
on the ground. And that's the truth. That's absolutely filmed on Sergio's you
41:29
know, because the cameras weren't there on his. I because I was so
41:32
determined to get out of Michael's house and into our house with the kids,
41:37
you know, it was it was a nightmare because I'd let my apartment go
41:42
because you know, you have to lease another house for another year or six
41:45
months, and they said it was going to be two weeks, which turned
41:49
into two months. Okay, and so I was like, you know,
41:53
Michael was like, oh, you can stay with me for two weeks.
41:55
I have a house in Texas. Anyway, it won't be there much.
41:59
And then when it turned into two months and twenty two boxes and three kids,
42:01
three dogs, two assistants, a housekeeper, driver, Michael had to
42:07
move out. I mean the fact that we're still friends and we're about to
42:12
go to Bali. I can't even tell you. He'd come down and you
42:14
know, come down in the morning and we would just all be working around
42:16
his table. The poor man is the saint. So yes, the fact
42:21
was my room was the last to be ready, but I was just determined
42:23
to get my kids in and all of us under one roof. Michael,
42:29
how do you know Michael, You guys go way back, well from when
42:32
I first moved to Dubai. Yes, he was one of the first brands
42:36
to hire me, and they always put Caroline's friend. But believe it or
42:38
not, Michael is one of the most powerful people in the Middle East.
42:44
Yes, he was the CEO of a public company and he's got a very
42:49
famous story where you know, there was a the company was six billion in
42:53
debt. They uncovered nearly seven billion, and Michael took it to profit more
42:58
in less than two years. The man and is like potus in the country
43:01
and like, hereamly together. So he's always like, oh here I am
43:06
all the work I do and I'm just Caroline's friend. Oh my god,
43:10
Well this is your moment, Michael, You're amazing. Look at you.
43:15
Wow. Yeah, but that is but he's a housewife now, his housewife.
43:21
Now he's a friend of Caroline's friend. That's He's like, that's going
43:25
to be on my tombstone. Well, that's the most important thing, right,
43:31
Okay, So you do watch housewives. Who are the other housewives in
43:36
the zeitgeist that you get along with the most in other franchises, Lassa,
43:42
Pippin, Heather, Debro, Meredith Marsh. I like Teresa, Oh my
43:54
god, sister in law. It's just Melissa, Yeah, Melissa, Melissa
44:00
and Joe are lovely. Who else, Oh, Lisa Hutch and Scene.
44:10
I know so many of them. I really like all of them. That
44:13
Lisa Rinna in London, I mean not London, Paris. Just now,
44:16
Oh how's Lisa Rinna? I mean crazy as ever? You know, just
44:23
died a haveld. She was in Paris, I was at Cochere week,
44:28
so we had we were at the same dinner. Oh my god, the
44:30
two of you. Okay, now that I think that we found it,
44:36
it's you and Lisa Rinner in the fish out of Water thing because your personalities.
44:42
I mean, She's like, come on, Caroline, let's go hussle,
44:45
and You're like, do we really have to hustle? I'm too tired
44:47
to hustle, Lisa, Lisa, I mean that would be I do love
44:55
and I an imagine I an going around in one of her ball of course,
45:00
that's a that's a no brainer too. You're right, that's true.
45:02
That's true. That would be great, although she'd be better in one of
45:07
those places than I will, like I can't see. Yeah, it would
45:10
be hilarious. So your podcast is really successful. I love it. I
45:16
think it's great. Thank you. Divorced not dead, it's now I'm cust
45:22
and unsensitively. Oh it's switched on, cut and uncensored. Okay, I'm
45:25
nonsensitive, but yes, that's more current. Yes, and also just because
45:30
I'm not divorced anymore. I am divorced, right, but it's not and
45:36
I think you know I'm now discussing everything in my life. So I wanted
45:39
to open it up a lot more. I think people just you know,
45:42
I'm known as a divorced guru. Now everywhere I go people throw themselves at
45:46
me and ask me things about divorce, and I'm like, I'm not a
45:49
therapist, but I'll do my best. I can only give you my opinions.
45:53
Oh, Caroline Stanbury is a therapist? Do it different? Do it
46:00
better? Advice? No? Uh no? Okay, So before I let
46:06
you go, you had Susan Sarandon on your podcast like a long time ago.
46:12
How did that happen? Actually? How did that happen? Uh?
46:17
So? We I had a I had a charity with it's called Brilliant is
46:25
Beautiful, and Ben Stiller and I were the CoA chairs and yes, and
46:31
also mad Linstone came and Susan Sarandon came. Wow, No, it was
46:38
really lovely. There was just it was you should have seen the invitation.
46:42
I couldn't quite believe my face was next to all of them. It was
46:45
mad because I put it together and and and it was quite something to see
46:51
them all with with with me on stage. I was like, how has
46:54
this happened? And I yeah, I was a massive, massive Susan bad
47:01
from all her movies. So no that, and so she agreed to do
47:07
the podcast. So and I think that I woke up in the morning the
47:10
podcast had gone viral because I don't think she's ever done a podcast, And
47:14
she texts me afterwards, going, well, thanks a lot, now everyone
47:17
wants me on their podcast. Did she watch your show? Yes? Yeah,
47:23
I think she has. But she's funny because I'd be like, oh,
47:27
shall I get my secretary to speak to your sectory. She's like,
47:29
I don't have a secretary. Wow, you'll speak to me. And that's
47:36
quite cool. Yeah, that is cool. I guess it's surprising, But
47:39
now that I think about it, she does seem like that kind of person.
47:43
Yeah, very very very sort of like down to earth. Yeah.
47:46
So when you're you're poised for the reunion, who are you looking the most
47:52
forward to seeing on? Who are you looking the least forward to seeing?
47:57
Most forward to look seeing? I am because I think you know, it'll
48:01
be a more fun time this time around. Yeah, and looking forward to
48:08
probably Lisa Malone. Wow, Lisa, Okay. You know the thing is
48:15
with Dubai, the ladies who are doing too much need to do less.
48:22
And that's that's my opinion. They just need to go with the flow.
48:25
Do you when you do you feel that in sense that when you're in these
48:30
scenes, and how how do you wrap your head around it and deal with
48:35
it? When I mean, actually I kind of know how you deal with
48:37
it. You're like, I'm not going to deal with this right now,
48:38
and then you leave, I'm not going to deal with it. It's exactly
48:42
it. I think, you know, there's nothing, there's no way to
48:45
change it, right. So I think I sit like this and they're like,
48:51
you know, and I'm so rich and I'm so this and so that,
48:53
And I find it so odd because it's never a conversation I've ever had
48:58
with any other women in my life about how rich we all are. It's
49:01
like nuts to me. In England, you don't don't discuss things like that.
49:06
You don't ye pennies. Pennies are in mind. So it's so weird
49:15
to me. You know, you know, I got that, I got
49:19
this, I've just got a new car. Great. You know, it's
49:22
just very weird. But I mean, it just is what it is,
49:25
and you just have to listen to it. So maybe it's because I'm older
49:29
as well. I have no idea, and maybe it's because I'm not new
49:31
to this. Still don't know. Maybe people you know will settle settle in.
49:37
Do they ever ask you for advice? Like Caroline, you've done this
49:39
before, you know how this goes you nuts. They haven't even told me
49:45
I've been on a show before, even though it's airing in America now.
49:50
None of them, like, they've never said, you know, I've seen
49:52
your show, want to see your show? No, no, no,
49:54
no, no, they're not that would like mean giving me a compliment.
49:58
There's no wow. No, they would acknowledge it. There's no room in
50:01
their ego for that. Now. I know you talked to your your ex
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sister in law, Sophie Stanbury. We're about to go on you are.
50:13
Oh my god, that's so cool. I love that. How she doing?
50:16
Is she good? She's really really good. She's flying out to meet
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me in Balley now with her sons. We speak at we with facetiming today.
50:27
I love Sophie. She's just so so much fun, you know.
50:32
And Juliette, I speak to everybody on my show. Really yeah, I
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love them. Marissa, I want to go to her restaurant. You haven't
50:44
been mm hmm any of them. I cannot believe I've not been to any
50:49
of them. It's really a shame. How uncool are you. I will
50:54
set it up anytime you want to go. Really okay, cool? Done?
50:59
And because I don't think I can make it to do buy anytime soon,
51:02
well you should, you should? So okay. What about Julie Montague.
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No, I haven't spoken to her in a quite a long time,
51:13
but not because there's any ill blood that just you know, we just don't
51:16
have anything really in common anymore, I presume, not that I mean we
51:22
did back then. I think you know, she's she's lovely. Yeah,
51:24
okay, cool, because she's I found I was scrolling through TikTok and like
51:30
I happened upon one of her her videos. She's like, they're you know
51:36
how they have that estate the Yeah, so they're still trying to hold it
51:39
up. Yeah, I mean they just they're they just like drained that lakepool
51:45
thing and she was just swimming in it, like she was like I swim
51:50
it every day and like she was just it was just filled with LG and
51:53
she's like this is just lovely, you know, and it's just like a
51:57
complete like lily pads are like on her head, you know, and then
52:00
she has no problem with it. I'm just like, this woman's amazing.
52:02
And then they did drain it and like redo it, and so they are
52:07
definitely it looks like they're finally making some headway on that place. Do you
52:12
know what I loved about Julie's So this is so indicative of an English family.
52:16
So Julie had no idea. She was going, I'm going to inherit
52:20
amazing at castle and it's beautiful, and I'm going because it's like the biggest
52:25
English like con ever. So they basically the parents all like run the estates
52:32
into the ground. They say, we're leaving it to you. This giant
52:37
mansion which cost about a million pounds a year to run, if not more,
52:40
sometimes the garden million pounds and then you know they're all falling down,
52:45
all the wires need do everything. It's like that terrible thing. What was
52:49
the renovation movie with Goldie Horn money? And then the kids are like great,
52:57
they take the keys and the parents take the beautiful cottage at the end
53:00
and they're like, look it's all yours and that's it, and it's literally
53:04
like from then on in, it's like they've got to like hustle to keep
53:07
this thing going because they have no idea. The staffing costs, the electricity
53:13
that like, I mean literally you sleep and they have to keep the whole
53:16
house dark, and then they have two rooms with lights on. It's absolutely
53:22
hilarious. And then people like trapsing through the bottom floor that have paid to
53:27
come through your home every day. No thank you, No thank you is
53:31
right. I mean, this is like the I wish that someone would have
53:37
been on the ground floor to film all of this the last few years because
53:40
I only saw a few videos and I finally understood what you're saying. Yeah,
53:46
I think they did. I'm pretty sure she's on Discovery Channel. Have
53:52
a look. I remember she did a whole thing about the renovation. Go
53:55
check it out Discovery Channel. Okay, wow, because that, like you
54:00
said, a million pounds just for the gardens alone. And she's, you
54:06
know, on any given day she's walking around, she's dressed with like finger
54:10
gloves because the gardener, she's a pool boy, she's a she's she's the
54:16
tourist guide. She's selling tea towels. She's like it's like, it's I'm
54:22
exhausted watching Caroline Brooks. Caroline Brooks needs to go and spend a week with
54:29
Julie Montague and really see what work is. Yeah, see, get a
54:34
reality chuck, get out of your glasshouse and then get into that algae infestive
54:38
pool. Oh, Madverton, that's it, Yes, thank you Mappton.
54:44
And then we'll discuss who really has it worse. That's right. I mean,
54:47
god lover that she is, you know, got the energy to do
54:51
it. I can't believe she's still hanging in there. It's it's unbelievable.
54:54
So yeah, by a thread, by a thread. It's so funny to
54:59
watch. She's frazzled. She's frazzled. The hair is like this, it's
55:04
so funny. She's on steroids, I mean truly, Like she'll go into
55:07
a room all right now because she's got her American accent but with a British
55:15
you know, like I've now lived here, so I'm going to adapt.
55:17
And she's like, we have about seven layers of curtains in this room,
55:22
so I'm going to pull them back one by one, but then immediately need
55:24
to shut them or else the heat will remove itself from this room and we
55:30
will all freeze to death, all right, next room, you know.
55:32
It's yeah, it's so good. It's remember Julie's falls, her jobs.
55:40
Yes, the boss, she was amazing. She was amazing to you.
55:46
Oh my god, you want you on a bit of gossip. You know
55:49
who might be moving into Dubai. My neighbor Caroline Fleming. Get out?
55:55
Oh my god. But what's the real reason she wants to be on the
55:59
show, right, No, that's not the real reason. She's moving anyway,
56:02
just because Denmark. She's so famous there. It's very very hard for
56:07
her, and she's met a plastic surgeon and she's very happy, and you
56:12
know, for a million reasons, Dubai is a better option for her and
56:16
her son. She was coming to Dubai way before I was. She comes
56:21
every like at least three times a year. She absolutely loves it. Because
56:24
her sons were at school, she just couldn't move and now she can.
56:29
Oh my god. Does Andy Cohen know about this? I don't know if
56:34
Andy knows, but I will make sure eventually he does all you can.
56:38
But she will be Can you imagine her head to toe and chanel, you
56:44
know, looking at the other girls like you know, it will be brilliant.
56:49
She will. I would love now, that's what I want. Please
56:53
make that happen. Any kind of yeah, any kind of ladies of London
57:00
and mash up in Dubai is what I'm here for. Yeah, yeah,
57:05
no, she's coming. So she's looking at her house in September and it's
57:07
actually four doors down from mine. It's get it out, no worry,
57:12
and it's owned by my ex husband to stop it. Yeah, it's really
57:17
funny. Do you get along with your ex husband? Yes? We do
57:23
now, thank god. So great. That's great. That's great. I
57:30
feel like I've kept you way too long, so I'm going to let you
57:32
go. But everybody check out Uncut and Uncensored Carolines podcast obviously watch Dubai.
57:39
It's on Tuesday nights on Bravo and anything else you want to mention. No,
57:45
but I would like a new video you making fun of me. I
57:49
love them so much. Oh good, I will, and I do it
57:51
on my podcast every week, so I will continue. I missed that.
57:55
Thank you so much for taking your time out in Dubai. This evening for
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you and this morning for me, and tell Sergio, I said, Hello,
58:05
and we'll talk soon, Okay, Caroline, thank you lovely to meet,
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to you, lovely to see you too. Drama, Darling Drama,
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