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#1526 The Geoff Door - Geoff Jowett · The You Project

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Speaker 1: Get a team, Craig Anthey, Harper, what's your middle name again?
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Speaker 1: Jeffrow John? Oh that's it, Jeffrey John Jowd. I should
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Speaker 1: have remembered that.
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Speaker 2: Fuck.
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Speaker 1: That's negligent and reticent of me. How a big fella.
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Speaker 2: Made any better?
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Speaker 3: I'd be twins harps and even better for seeing your
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Speaker 3: head in that wonderful upgraded studio by the looks of it.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is razzle dazzle. This is a you
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Speaker 1: are looking at an electronic background. I don't know what
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Speaker 1: the kids call it, a fucking virtual I don't know something.
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Speaker 2: It's very impressive and I wouldn't have known.
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Speaker 1: No, it's where I'm actually in my office. But the
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Speaker 1: photo is of a real studio. So that's the Nova
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Speaker 1: studio that they graciously let me use because we're on
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Speaker 1: the Nova platform. Did I say Nova?
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Speaker 3: Yeah you did Nova Nova Nov Nov.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the actual grown up, proper studio that
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Speaker 1: I use when I can be fucked to drive into
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Speaker 1: South Melbourne. But being the lazy bastard that I am,
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Speaker 1: and seeing is that we're only audio. I sit here
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Speaker 1: at my desk in Hampton with a road mic stuffed
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Speaker 1: in my face and let's be honest. The audio quality
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Speaker 1: is pretty much the same. So I saved myself the
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Speaker 1: drive and bibity bobbedy boo. That's twenty twenty four technology.
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Speaker 2: Jeff Frowitz, Here we are Hollywood. Have you play Hollywood? Harper?
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Speaker 1: Yeah? Have you open? Speaking of technology, have you opened
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Speaker 1: the door on chat, GPT and AI in general? Or
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Speaker 1: are you still butcher paper and crayons?
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Speaker 2: Mate? I haven't.
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Speaker 3: Most people are clients people. Yes, I don't really have
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Speaker 3: a huge need for it at the minute. Like if
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Speaker 3: I a bit of copywriting work, I generally just bang
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Speaker 3: it out, but I don't do huge amounts of it
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Speaker 3: more this high level stuff.
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Speaker 2: So but I've heard rave reviews.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. It's probably not the chat we're going
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Speaker 1: to have today, but it is interesting, and it's for
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Speaker 1: for a friend of mine does a bit of copywriting
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Speaker 1: and you know, web stuff and just you know, and
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Speaker 1: they are more than a little worried because it's there's
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Speaker 1: going to be quite a you know, but there's going
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Speaker 1: to be jobs that become redundant. But with the evolution
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Speaker 1: of things, there are new jobs, Like who the fuck
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Speaker 1: knew that that podcasting could be a job or part
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Speaker 1: of a job. Who knew that? Fifteen years ago nobody
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Speaker 1: knew what one was. And here we are, fifteen hundred
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Speaker 1: plus episodes in working with one of the biggest entertainment
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Speaker 1: networks in Australia. Every show is sponsored, thankfully, and it's
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Speaker 1: a job. I mean, who the fuck knew? Who knew?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: Not me?
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Speaker 1: What's I mean? But I guess the thing that doesn't
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Speaker 1: really change too much is humans and human behavior. And
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Speaker 1: you know, the peace and troughs of the human experience
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Speaker 1: that you were, the.
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Speaker 3: Human, the human, the head, the human condition and all
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Speaker 3: that lies within rest are short irrespective of chap GP
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Speaker 3: T or x y Z at ABC, the human, the
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Speaker 3: head and everything in the middle of the condition and
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Speaker 3: make the infamous head noise at ninety nine point quadruple
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Speaker 3: nine if not one hundred percent of humans in dua,
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Speaker 3: I reckon you know what if I if we were
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Speaker 3: to flip the schooling system on its head, we should
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Speaker 3: do it. There should be a semester on head noise, right,
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Speaker 3: No one at our high school. We never knew that
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Speaker 3: everyone was in their head and.
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Speaker 2: What have you?
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Speaker 3: And you know, like self doubt, no self esteem, blah blah, blah,
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Speaker 3: what if scenarios, living in the future, living in the past.
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Speaker 2: We never covered that off at bloody school.
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Speaker 3: That would have been handy because it's non do later
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Speaker 3: in life that we realize every man as well. Hopefully
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Speaker 3: people know that every man and his dog battles it.
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Speaker 3: And it's Middle Earth, as I call it. You're down
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Speaker 3: there with Fredo and Gandolf and whatnot in all the hobbit.
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Speaker 3: It's not real, but it's sure as hellf feels like
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Speaker 3: it is. And we spend most of our life there
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Speaker 3: solving problems. And you can't outthink thinking, but god we try.
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Speaker 3: So you know what a great little semester that would
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Speaker 3: have been in the early days of high school, if
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Speaker 3: you will, so that when instead of sticking the head
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Speaker 3: in the microwave with a few metal forks, you might
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Speaker 3: have a few strategies to combat it.
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Speaker 1: Oh, I've missed you.
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Speaker 2: I've just dropping the micro.
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Speaker 3: Right there, Ladies and gentlemen, Happy and bloody Thursday. I've
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Speaker 3: missed you too long, absolutely, you know, and I know
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Speaker 3: no one can see your fred astare, but as far
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Speaker 3: as hair goes, it's on point.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's a gift that keeps on giving.
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Speaker 3: The silver Fox, and he's changed the glasses in the
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Speaker 3: meantime as well.
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Speaker 2: This bloke, he's red hot. I'll tell you what can't multitask.
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Speaker 2: This guy's quadruple tasking.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going bored anytime soon. My old man's eight
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Speaker 1: eighty five in a minute, and he's he's got a
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Speaker 1: head like a fucking twenty four year old. His hairs
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Speaker 1: like he gets his hair cut every three weeks. It
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Speaker 1: still grows like fucking bamboo at eighty five.
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Speaker 2: But I remember those days when I was eighteen, you know.
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, no, I definitely maybe quite a bit of
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Speaker 3: competitive bodybuilding was not optimal for the hair growth as
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Speaker 3: well over time.
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Speaker 1: But well, there is there is a relationship between yeah,
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Speaker 1: are you Are you referring to some of the special
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Speaker 1: supplements that you took.
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Speaker 3: Some of those performance enhancing supplements I may or may
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Speaker 3: not have taken back into your house in days mate,
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Speaker 3: when I was like a stogging full of walnuts. I'm
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Speaker 3: going to get all my clothes tailored and what have you,
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Speaker 3: and still thought I was skinny body dysmorphia dot com
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Speaker 3: if you will. But you know, dovetailing back to the
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Speaker 3: aforementioned head noise Harps Craig Anthony Harper. So you know,
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Speaker 3: but the head noise thing in the human condition here
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Speaker 3: is pect you of AI or anything else that comes along.
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Speaker 2: You know, like if you're in your head, you're dead.
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Speaker 3: Most people live there for an eternity, but they don't
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Speaker 3: realize it because when you're in there, you kind of
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Speaker 3: don't know, you know, and forever live a life of
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Speaker 3: busy getting there, getting there, ask and where they don't
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Speaker 3: know where boom. That's just the head on steroids doing
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Speaker 3: its best. And until you know, we learned to combat that.
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Speaker 3: I think that'll be the forever job for humans, like
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Speaker 3: just getting using them I not being used by it
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Speaker 3: and trying to observe it, be the witness, as they say,
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Speaker 3: versus being controlled consumed by it.
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Speaker 2: Out thinking redundant at best.
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Speaker 3: And you know those strategies, business life, sports, health, mental health, happiness,
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Speaker 3: all of it, you know, impossible without getting control of.
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Speaker 1: That one hundred percent. Hey, I put up a post
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Speaker 1: yesterday on i G as the kids call it. I'll
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Speaker 1: read it to you because I want your thoughts on it.
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Speaker 1: So the title is, are you giving yourself anxiety about
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Speaker 1: shit that won't happen? You know, I'm very literaryly evolved, right.
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Speaker 1: A recent study from pen A recent study from Pence
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Speaker 1: University discovered that ninety one percent of hypothetical future problems
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Speaker 1: that people worry about never materialize, and of the remaining
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Speaker 1: nine percent of concerns that did come true, the outcome
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Speaker 1: was often better than expected, and for about one in
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Speaker 1: four participants, exactly zero of their worries materialized. How much
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Speaker 1: time do we spend obsessing about shit that's never going
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Speaker 1: to happen? Mate?
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Speaker 3: Well, I could have got a PhD in in the
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Speaker 3: twenties and thirties, rest got a few of them. I'm surprised,
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Speaker 3: I bloody will should have or was that dem good
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Speaker 3: at it? And it's just absolute truth, mate, And we
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Speaker 3: waste so much time, energy, headspace, bandwidth, emotion, miss out
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Speaker 3: on where we are and all the good stuff and
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Speaker 3: any potential creativity or innovations absolutely got us on at
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Speaker 3: that point because you're in your head, you're worried what
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Speaker 3: if scenarios? You know, when we create, generally crave certainty
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Speaker 3: and hate change, But unfortunately change is the only constant,
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Speaker 3: and we've got to learn to embrace uncertainty because there
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Speaker 3: in lies the opportunity industry's life, you know whatever. It
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Speaker 3: may be much easier said than done, very simple in theory,
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Speaker 3: very hard in execution. And you know, I think about
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Speaker 3: cliches sometimes because like they're cliches for a reason, and
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Speaker 3: when you're young, you're like, yeah, whatever, But you think
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Speaker 3: of cliches now and patience is a virtue or however
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Speaker 3: many that there are, and there's so much truth in
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Speaker 3: each and every one of them while they became cliches.
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Speaker 2: But not easy to live by as rules.
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Speaker 3: But like, we get good at what we do, and
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Speaker 3: you know, we should focus on the right things and
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Speaker 3: we prioritize that. Then we do get better on sort
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Speaker 3: of a case in point. But it's an every day,
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Speaker 3: forever job. If you get sort of sloppy with it,
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Speaker 3: you cook your head. Just stick it in the microwave
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Speaker 3: a few metal forks and that's the result head cooking
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Speaker 3: in the world the microwave. Choose your poison, so and
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Speaker 3: mate something with your PhD neuroscience.
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Speaker 2: Nonetheless, I believe.
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Speaker 3: I've been fascinated lately with posture, and I'm doing a
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Speaker 3: few little other things outside of coaching and speaking, and
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Speaker 3: maybe a little startup on the horizon, going back to
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Speaker 3: the grassroots, mate sports science, leveraging a bit of that stuff.
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Speaker 2: And just obviously you.
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Speaker 3: Mentioned anxiety and parasympathetic verse sympathetic nervous system, and what
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Speaker 3: I've noticed. I actually spoke to Paul Batman, who you'd know,
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Speaker 3: and he's we've been chatting a bit about this, and
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Speaker 3: like aesthetic versu athletic posture, aesthetic you know, stand up tall,
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Speaker 3: stand up tall tommy in shoulders back, Well, you're guaranteed
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Speaker 3: to breathe into your chest right then and there, ladies
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Speaker 3: and gentlemen, which will stimulate the sympathetic nervous system, which
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Speaker 3: will stimulate anxiety, stress, and head noise versus. And I've
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Speaker 3: I believe in an area that's been missed is the
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Speaker 3: thoracic spine a lot more than the lumber because it's
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Speaker 3: not as easy to detect the curvature and where the
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Speaker 3: sternum is. And we walk around resisting gravity all the time,
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Speaker 3: especially if you're a short ass like me four point seven,
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Speaker 3: and like so, I guess there's short people are probably
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Speaker 3: more prone to it than really tall people who want
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Speaker 3: to be a bit shorter to fit in. But that's
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Speaker 3: just my hypothesis. But you resist gravity and you stand
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Speaker 3: up for all or all these things, and you a
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Speaker 3: real good chance to breathe up into your chest and
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Speaker 3: stimulate the sympathetic nervous system as opposed to the parasympathetic
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Speaker 3: versus breathing into your belly. And it's quite profound when
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Speaker 3: you're breathing into your obviously you drop your sternum.
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Speaker 2: You can't not breathe into your belly.
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Speaker 3: And based you know what the thoracic spine is doing
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Speaker 3: and where it funnels the air, and you create that
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Speaker 3: intra adominal pressure which leads into a core, and how
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Speaker 3: core can be misdiagnosed as well that you know, we're
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Speaker 3: at UNI and what we thought was right and the
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Speaker 3: role of the spinal erect versus the intra abdominal pressure.
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Speaker 2: Look at PARPs Is, like, where's this bloke come from?
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Speaker 3: He's boon on a farm and he's firing up the
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Speaker 3: old sports science degree. But I like to surprise you
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Speaker 3: at times, Craig Anthony, having known it as long as
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Speaker 3: I have it, but.
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Speaker 2: The I'm a bit fascinated by it.
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Speaker 3: Now For all the listeners, this will absolutely blow your
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Speaker 3: socks off if you're wearing any and that is tonight,
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Speaker 3: sit on the edge of the better on a chair
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Speaker 3: with your shoulders above your hips, and exhale fully so
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Speaker 3: you've got no air in your lungs. You exhale it
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Speaker 3: fully and then try to stand.
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Speaker 1: Up and hang on. So are we sitting upright or
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Speaker 1: are we leaning forward? What do we know?
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Speaker 2: You're sitting upright. You want your shoulders above your hips.
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Speaker 3: You don't lean forward, use momentum and your dead set
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Speaker 3: got the wobbly boot on like you've had a thousand schooners.
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Speaker 3: Because when you look at the human skeleton from the
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Speaker 3: ribs up and the pelvis down, it's very you know,
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Speaker 3: the skeleton and whatnot. There's quite a bit going on.
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Speaker 3: But between the bottom rib and the pelvis, this fuck
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Speaker 3: all just a pole i e. Your spine and if
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Speaker 3: you don't have a little belly balloon in there like
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Speaker 3: a little bit. So what happens is when we go
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Speaker 3: to get up, is that we have the slight a
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Speaker 3: little inhale that we don't realize.
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Speaker 2: And that's what it increases, you know, inflates.
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Speaker 3: That balloon slightly increases that pressure for the core muscles
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Speaker 3: to brace against versus drawing the belly button in as
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Speaker 3: we were sort of thinking way back in the day.
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Speaker 3: And then wushka, and an even more powerful one is
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Speaker 3: lying on the bed and exhalefully x holeefully nowhere in
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Speaker 3: your tummy and try to get up from lying down
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Speaker 3: your dead set can't like we just we don't realize
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Speaker 3: that we have this inhale and inflate that balloon so subtly,
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Speaker 3: so automatically, involuntarily. And I propose that's why babies have
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Speaker 3: about seven thousand false starts before they can stand up
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Speaker 3: and walk, because you can't do it when you haven't
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Speaker 3: got air in your belly like that. And but we're not,
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Speaker 3: we don't have what we're learning when we're babies. Forgot
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Speaker 3: I know what I learned last week, little and when
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Speaker 3: I was a baby. So therein lies the thing, and
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Speaker 3: that dovetails into performance posture and what the best golfers
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Speaker 3: and horse riders and what not do that, But.
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Speaker 2: They don't think they do or know they do.
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Speaker 3: And then when you ask them what they do, they
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Speaker 3: overthink it and they tell you something else because it's
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Speaker 3: so subtle, really fascinating when it comes to sort of
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Speaker 3: athletic or performance posture versus esthetic posture. Walking into a
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Speaker 3: room suck the guts in stand up tall, but doesn't lend.
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Speaker 3: It's not conducive to optimal cour stability and or strength
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Speaker 3: and or performance.
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Speaker 1: Rather than walking into a room. You know, I'm being
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Speaker 1: bolt upright like a fucking adore with a pair of
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Speaker 1: glasses on, javelin like a cricket bat. What what should
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Speaker 1: so if I'm not standing up right? Shoulders back, chest out,
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Speaker 1: you know, a big as a tree? What what am
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Speaker 1: I doing? Like? What should my books?
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Speaker 3: You make? Because you're built like an adonna? So like
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Speaker 3: you know, it's hard for a blake of your stature.
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Speaker 3: But for the me, my mortals who got shoulders like
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Speaker 3: a javelin or whatnot? As I just thought i'd throw
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Speaker 3: that in because it makes me laugh. Shoulders like a javelin,
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Speaker 3: or like.
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Speaker 1: A brown snake or a bottle of milk.
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Speaker 2: Or a bottle of milk areas.
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Speaker 3: So no, but that comes back to do you remember
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Speaker 3: in like primary school or very early on, we sort
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Speaker 3: of were shown to balance a book on their head
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Speaker 3: and walk around. Yeah, yeah, mate, I think the best
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Speaker 3: team they did that.
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Speaker 1: I think they did that in elocution classes.
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Speaker 3: June Dalley Watkins or whatever. Yes, I believe it was
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Speaker 3: way back in the house in days, but yeah, that one.
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Speaker 3: But I remember doing it and it used to fall
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Speaker 3: off all the time because my sternum was elevated, my
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Speaker 3: thoracic spine was lengthened and straightened. What happens is when
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Speaker 3: you drop does this let go like if you stand
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Speaker 3: up and you just look down and then lift your
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Speaker 3: head up.
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Speaker 2: Your sternham is the or when.
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Speaker 3: We're up and resisting gravity and then we drop our sternum,
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Speaker 3: drops in our chin pops stern and drops chin pops
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Speaker 3: and then the book's flattening. Can walk around all day
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Speaker 3: and it doesn't fall off. And I'm like, oh, that's
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Speaker 3: what we were meant to be doing back in the day,
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Speaker 3: and no wonder I couldn't do it because we're resisting
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Speaker 3: gravity the whole time and we're a thoracic spine is
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Speaker 3: more engaging when you drop it, you're breathing to your belly, parasympathetic.
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Speaker 2: Great for sports and what have you.
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Speaker 3: And the other kicker is when we do deadlifts and squats,
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Speaker 3: that's actually the posture we're in, but we set up
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Speaker 3: behind the bar or whatnot. And we're tall and exaggerated,
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Speaker 3: but as soon as the weight is on us, then
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Speaker 3: we drop into that posture because of the weight. But
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Speaker 3: when there's no weight, we often resist gravity and to
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Speaker 3: our detriment in a lot of ways, especially with the like.
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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of things with the endocrine system,
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Speaker 3: the respiratory system, neurologically, it's all linked, as you know
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Speaker 3: better than anyone, and it all comes, I believe, come
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Speaker 3: back to posture and this whole idea of diaphragmatic breathing.
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Speaker 3: When the sternams dropped, well, the diaphragm can work properly.
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Speaker 1: So okay, so some people are going, yeah, right, cool,
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Speaker 1: But how do I stand? Though? So what's an optimal
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Speaker 1: standing position? If I'm watching the footy and I'm standing
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Speaker 1: there for an hour and I've got a beer in
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Speaker 1: my left hand or a fucking chocolate milk, what's the
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Speaker 1: optimal standing Like, what's my posture doing? If I'm doing
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Speaker 1: it right?
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Speaker 3: Well, you just rather than you just let go so
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Speaker 3: you'll feel like how when you're aware of it, you'll
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Speaker 3: just see how you're standing more upright than you need
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Speaker 3: to be, and your hips come under you and you
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Speaker 3: just relax. It's sort of like the bones not the muscles,
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Speaker 3: you know, and the head just sits there like a
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Speaker 3: billiard ball on a pool queue, if you will.
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Speaker 2: So you're not like.
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Speaker 3: You feel your head out of the way to your
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Speaker 3: head actually more in the back of your neck instead
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Speaker 3: of your lumbers spine.
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Speaker 1: Oh wow. So I feel like though, for a lot
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Speaker 1: of people that do that, they're going to just look
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Speaker 1: like a fucking hiphotic kind of you know, shoulders forward,
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Speaker 1: rounded back.
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Speaker 3: Is that well, look, well it would look As a
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Speaker 3: sports scientist, I would say it would look like lazy posture, yes,
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Speaker 3: versus you know, esthetic posture or what we were taught
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Speaker 3: was athletic. But when you've got a wait, as I said,
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Speaker 3: that's not what you're doing anyway. But yeah, and you
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Speaker 3: just relax, and you know, I've been working on a
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Speaker 3: golf swing system and the all and a few different
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Speaker 3: bits and pieces and yeah, just tinking away in the
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Speaker 3: back shed out here, and and yeah, a lot of
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Speaker 3: these learnings and just the performance enhancements that they have.
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Speaker 3: But also like you know, in golf as an example,
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Speaker 3: like a lot of these top golf pros that they
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Speaker 3: suffer from stress fractures, in their lower back. It's very common, right,
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Speaker 3: because they've got an engaged lumber spine, you know, and
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Speaker 3: they're Stirnam's up the thoracic lumbers engaged, they overdo it.
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Speaker 3: It's over engaged versus let gravity dropped them over the
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Speaker 3: ball better, like they you know, they swung the club
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Speaker 3: when they were fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, arguably at their best
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Speaker 3: when they were freak junior golfers. And I think it's
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Speaker 3: sort of come from sports science actually, like our domain
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Speaker 3: over cooking, the posture piece that's flown into coaching, you know,
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Speaker 3: that's gone into coaching in sports, and it's you know,
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Speaker 3: two people's detriment. It's really interesting, but it's what I
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Speaker 3: for the general population, what's interesting is how many people
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Speaker 3: have anxiety, and you know, how much of that is
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Speaker 3: related to where the breath goes the chest or the
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Speaker 3: belly or the diaphragm or you know, and I believe
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Speaker 3: that could be postural.
18:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And also when you think about like everybody,
18:43
Speaker 1: you know, some people have what's called which you know,
18:46
Speaker 1: but I'll explain it for our listeners, like anterior pelvic
18:48
Speaker 1: tilt where they're kind of their pelvis tilts forward a
18:52
Speaker 1: bit or posterior pelvic tilt, you know, and people who
18:55
Speaker 1: have like what we would call that kind of where
18:57
Speaker 1: you're at the front of your pelvis is much like
19:00
Speaker 1: than the back. Then you have that sway back or
19:03
Speaker 1: that lordonic kind of posture. And then other people almost
19:07
Speaker 1: have like a flat spine. Some people are quite cyphotic,
19:10
Speaker 1: that hunchy back. Some people, like an alarming amount of
19:14
Speaker 1: people have a bit of scoliosis, you know, either very
19:17
Speaker 1: minor or dramatic curvature of the spine. And everybody's skeleton
19:23
Speaker 1: really is in a way, you know, we've all got
19:26
Speaker 1: a skeleton, but they ain't all the same. And then
19:29
Speaker 1: and then we when you think about all the muscles, ligaments,
19:32
Speaker 1: tenons that attached to the skeleton and then move you know, joints, neflextion, extension,
19:37
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. Like to say that everyone
19:42
Speaker 1: should lift exactly this way, like you should all dead
19:46
Speaker 1: lift this way. Well no, not if you've got a
19:48
Speaker 1: different skeleton to me. There needs to be an adaptation
19:51
Speaker 1: or modification, you know. Like one of the funny things
19:55
Speaker 1: is my left leg is more externally rotated than sorry,
20:03
Speaker 1: my right leg is more externally rotated than my left.
20:06
Speaker 1: So I'm if I'm doing a squat my left foot
20:11
Speaker 1: is it about you know, three minutes to twelve or
20:14
Speaker 1: five minutes to twelve, But my right foot is at
20:17
Speaker 1: about ten.
20:18
Speaker 2: Past yeah, yeah, right, So instead of.
20:22
Speaker 1: Being at the twelve o'clock, my left foot is turned
20:24
Speaker 1: out a bit, my right foot is turned out more. Now,
20:27
Speaker 1: if you look at me squatting, you would go, oh fuck,
20:30
Speaker 1: put your right foot in because it's turned out. But
20:33
Speaker 1: when I try and do that, when I try and
20:35
Speaker 1: get the same angle in both feet, it feels like
20:39
Speaker 1: my right hip and right fema are twisted. So and
20:43
Speaker 1: that's because all that, for whatever reason, my right leg
20:47
Speaker 1: is externally rotated more than my left, which people who
20:50
Speaker 1: don't know what they're looking for wouldn't notice it, right
20:52
Speaker 1: of course. But for me, where I am feeling the
20:56
Speaker 1: most comfortable and natural, it's the most natural kind of
21:00
Speaker 1: plane of movement. For me. To look at it looks fucked.
21:05
Speaker 1: But when I do it, textbook, I get injured.
21:08
Speaker 2: For sure. You know where they would solutely.
21:11
Speaker 1: Example, you should have the exact same level of rotation next,
21:15
Speaker 1: you know, so your feet, your feet should be let's
21:17
Speaker 1: say it five to one, you know, five to one o'clock,
21:21
Speaker 1: you know, like a or whatever. That is ten degrees
21:26
Speaker 1: and ten degrees. But yeah, and so I think that.
21:29
Speaker 1: But this thinking in general, like when you talk about
21:33
Speaker 1: like that, that applies to a lot of things, doesn't it,
21:37
Speaker 1: like in terms of it does.
21:39
Speaker 2: But he's a good one, so I can to erupt.
21:41
Speaker 2: He's a good one. You know.
21:42
Speaker 3: Chest out, shoulders, back, tummy in. Yeah, do not pass, go,
21:46
Speaker 3: do not collect two hundred dollars. Go straight to anterior
21:49
Speaker 3: pelvic tilt if you chest out, shoulders back, tummy in,
21:52
Speaker 3: tummy in, especially anterior pelvic til if you suck the
21:55
Speaker 3: belly button in, the guts in, and if anyone's you know,
21:58
Speaker 3: carrying a couple kg's and they generally will do that, right,
22:02
Speaker 3: draw the tumming in and what have you. Aesthetically, there's
22:06
Speaker 3: your anterior pelvic tilt. When you're just relax your belly drop.
22:10
Speaker 3: You're not dropping your sternum like the bloody crunch. It's
22:13
Speaker 3: just gravity. It's nothing more. It's nothing forced. There's no
22:16
Speaker 3: manual labor. It's just letting the gravity do its thing.
22:19
Speaker 3: And I think gravity is the thing that's been missed it.
22:22
Speaker 3: We resist it all day unknowingly, and then that has
22:26
Speaker 3: an effect. And when you don't, when you just let
22:31
Speaker 3: your stomach relax, your pelvis is far more inclined to
22:35
Speaker 3: go into a neutral position instead of anterior pelvic tilt,
22:37
Speaker 3: which switches off the hammies, the glutes and the hammies
22:40
Speaker 3: and just the glutes especially. Just have a holiday, and
22:45
Speaker 3: you know and all this You just activate your glutes
22:47
Speaker 3: and your hammies and all these things happen when you
22:49
Speaker 3: actually let go against gravity and stop resisting it.
22:52
Speaker 2: So yeah, it gets you into much better alignment.
22:56
Speaker 1: Could I ask you look thick at the moment, And
23:00
Speaker 1: by thick, I mean like you've put on some muscle,
23:03
Speaker 1: Like you look larger than last time I.
23:05
Speaker 2: Saw you a gym.
23:08
Speaker 1: Oh so you so you're back in the.
23:11
Speaker 3: Well. If this was a month ago, I'd say, mate,
23:14
Speaker 3: I joined a gym, and I joined it a month ago,
23:17
Speaker 3: and I've been twice, but now I've up it a
23:19
Speaker 3: bit since then.
23:20
Speaker 2: But may two times a week or something I get
23:23
Speaker 2: in there. Just yeah, you're just up the road.
23:26
Speaker 1: You also look like you've got a tear in the
23:28
Speaker 1: top of your bicep.
23:29
Speaker 2: Is that right, correct, Yes, how'd you do that? Bodybuilding?
23:35
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, bodybuilding, Yeah yeah, in both Lucky there's
23:40
Speaker 3: two tendons there a one of them the heavy lifting.
23:45
Speaker 1: Lucky it's a bicep and not a un sep.
23:47
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right. Yeah yeah.
23:49
Speaker 3: So powers of observation serve your world of quote over
23:53
Speaker 3: one I believe it was back in the day.
23:55
Speaker 4: But what opened what opened the door on this new
24:01
Speaker 4: found or resurgence in terms of your your postural stuff
24:06
Speaker 4: and your physiological performance stuff.
24:08
Speaker 1: So for those who don't know Jeff, his background is
24:12
Speaker 1: in sports science. He he along with Simo, created Vision
24:16
Speaker 1: Personal Training, biggest PT franchise in Australia. Still Simo is
24:21
Speaker 1: still he's got more money than God. You're still killing it.
24:25
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Jeff and I are saving up for fucking
24:28
Speaker 1: rice and Simmo is just rolling around in his Bentley.
24:32
Speaker 2: You've got plenty halps. Don't play it down. You're going good.
24:34
Speaker 2: But carry it.
24:34
Speaker 1: Be ridiculous, don't be ridiculous. And but yeah you but
24:40
Speaker 1: and you built you know, body trim and but you
24:42
Speaker 1: lived in the physical space working with bodies and the
24:46
Speaker 1: people who inhabited them for a long time. But and
24:50
Speaker 1: it's not like you turned your back on that, but
24:52
Speaker 1: you've been doing other things for a while. What dragged
24:54
Speaker 1: you back into that space?
24:56
Speaker 2: Well, good question, mate.
24:58
Speaker 3: I think it started, well, a couple of things out
25:01
Speaker 3: here in the boondocks.
25:04
Speaker 2: I I thought about the.
25:07
Speaker 3: Golf swing for a while I played all my life,
25:09
Speaker 3: and and also horse riding, and just that all the
25:16
Speaker 3: stuff around the golf swing and riding horses that just
25:21
Speaker 3: didn't line up for me, just.
25:25
Speaker 2: The people.
25:26
Speaker 3: It was very ambiguous and or I just wasn't adding up.
25:31
Speaker 3: And then I started this play around with a few
25:33
Speaker 3: different things on horses hitting golf balls, and I started
25:41
Speaker 3: and just understanding, you know, how the body sort of moved,
25:45
Speaker 3: and realizing that some people have a lazy posture and
25:49
Speaker 3: what have you in sports.
25:52
Speaker 2: And others don't.
25:53
Speaker 3: But the thing is, if you don't, you only know
25:56
Speaker 3: what you have and you're not. People generally don't see
25:59
Speaker 3: that others are not posturally the same or engaged as
26:04
Speaker 3: much or as little. But I realized that the body,
26:07
Speaker 3: the biomechanics of the body it were profoundly differently based
26:13
Speaker 3: on your postural level of engagement. So the momentum forces
26:18
Speaker 3: of the club head worked differently. How the horse moves
26:21
Speaker 3: you is different based on how engaged and or tense
26:24
Speaker 3: verse relaxed you are, so you know your center of
26:29
Speaker 3: mass is higher or lower, your center of gravity, all
26:31
Speaker 3: these how you use the ground over the golf board
26:34
Speaker 3: all different. And then that I just sort of started
26:37
Speaker 3: to join more and more dots. Teamed up with the
26:39
Speaker 3: made of mine who's a golf pro, and he went,
26:41
Speaker 3: hang on. Over time, we both realize that you know,
26:45
Speaker 3: everyone's guessing. And now that we've started to join the dots,
26:47
Speaker 3: it's like throwing darts. It's exciting. Same with horses. Riding
26:51
Speaker 3: horses are totally different, and how you recycle the energy
26:54
Speaker 3: of the horse into your body into the horse. And
26:57
Speaker 3: because I know, another thing that stayed with me, I
27:00
Speaker 3: guess nearly is sober gift of sobriety seven hundred and two.
27:04
Speaker 3: Like I remember a lot of things that have said
27:06
Speaker 3: to me and Glenn Boss the jockeys are made of mine.
27:09
Speaker 3: He won three Melbourne Cups, so I'm guessing he's got
27:11
Speaker 3: a pretty good clue about horses. And he was chatting
27:14
Speaker 3: with chat picking his brain one day and you know
27:18
Speaker 3: he said to me, he said, Jeffrey, just if anything
27:20
Speaker 3: party is tense on a horse, just you know you're
27:24
Speaker 3: going to bounce off. And I bounced that off a
27:26
Speaker 3: lot of horsey people and they go, oh no, that's
27:28
Speaker 3: not Oh no, I don't know about that bla B.
27:31
Speaker 3: And over time I realized that, you know, there are
27:34
Speaker 3: people riding a different seat position based on this posture thing,
27:38
Speaker 3: and one.
27:39
Speaker 2: Way is really hard.
27:40
Speaker 3: And it's a bit like if a if you're piggybacking
27:42
Speaker 3: a little kid on your back and they're digging their
27:44
Speaker 3: knees into you versus not right, that's what the horse
27:48
Speaker 3: feels based on your posture. And it's been profound with
27:53
Speaker 3: horses and the way that they respond, and like really
27:56
Speaker 3: it's the whole other world and the same thing with golf,
27:59
Speaker 3: and now I can do things with golf that I
28:00
Speaker 3: couldn't before. But getting it that that didn't really get
28:04
Speaker 3: me into the gym. I had a few niggles with
28:06
Speaker 3: the shoulders and whatnot, and I thought, no, it's time
28:09
Speaker 3: I've been taking the piss out of it for a while.
28:12
Speaker 3: Up I went like, just to get rid of the
28:14
Speaker 3: niggles and just you know, they're all good now, thankfully,
28:17
Speaker 3: And yeah, joining the gym was more just just to
28:23
Speaker 3: get myself, you know, physically sort of fit and strong,
28:26
Speaker 3: you know, and get rid of the niggles. And then
28:30
Speaker 3: when I actually started doing weights again, I actually, more
28:33
Speaker 3: than ever in my life, realized just the the mental
28:38
Speaker 3: health benefits and just the brain just comes to life
28:41
Speaker 3: so quickly for me when I start lifting weights, you know,
28:44
Speaker 3: one set and it's just like woosh, the lights are on.
28:47
Speaker 2: We how good is this?
28:48
Speaker 3: And I probably didn't fully appreciate that in my younger
28:52
Speaker 3: years because I trained most every day. But then you
28:55
Speaker 3: stop and then you start your how wow, unbelievable? Like
29:00
Speaker 3: that alone is just so critical. But I go in
29:03
Speaker 3: there for like fifteen twenty minutes and I'm just doing
29:06
Speaker 3: a thing and get out of there.
29:07
Speaker 2: I'm not there. I'm not running marathons and.
29:09
Speaker 3: I rock up in Ara and Williams or my gun
29:11
Speaker 3: boots and I'm not running on the treadmill. Am I say,
29:14
Speaker 3: like I don't need my runners or not that I
29:16
Speaker 3: got a pair, But like I just get in there
29:18
Speaker 3: and do basic compound lifts and blah blah blah, it's great.
29:22
Speaker 3: Like I enjoy it for that, and well, actually I
29:25
Speaker 3: don't know if I super love it because I did
29:28
Speaker 3: it for eight million years, whereas as a young bloke
29:31
Speaker 3: at the local gym and he's sort of you know,
29:33
Speaker 3: young fella trying to put on some weight and you know,
29:35
Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and you.
29:37
Speaker 2: Know, I just loves it.
29:38
Speaker 3: And they're like, man, you're going to get right right
29:39
Speaker 3: into it, like what's happening now. But I'm like, mate,
29:43
Speaker 3: I'm just just chip away like it does. It's it's
29:46
Speaker 3: different when.
29:46
Speaker 2: You did it thirty or for thirty.
29:49
Speaker 3: Years, and I just recognize the importance and the benefit
29:53
Speaker 3: of it. But I kind of like the life activities horses,
29:56
Speaker 3: golf and those things a bit more in terms of
29:59
Speaker 3: mental stings. But for the for the you know, physiological health,
30:04
Speaker 3: mental health, like all those benefits are just realizing more
30:08
Speaker 3: than I ever did.
30:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's yeah as you get older, especially I mean
30:14
Speaker 1: I'm a lot older than you. But I think apart
30:17
Speaker 1: from all the other things that people you know could do,
30:20
Speaker 1: Suck in some oxygen, get your heart rate up, do
30:22
Speaker 1: some cardio, do a bit of stretching, you know, get
30:25
Speaker 1: your feet in dirt, get your feet in sand, if
30:27
Speaker 1: you can be in nature, hugger tree, all that stuff,
30:31
Speaker 1: which is all important and I do all of that too.
30:34
Speaker 1: It's like there is something unique about strength training that well,
30:41
Speaker 1: we know that it's cognitively it's cognitively enhancing. It's cognitive enhancer.
30:46
Speaker 1: It produces dopamine, makes you feel good, you know, muscle mass, posture,
30:51
Speaker 1: bone density. Not so sure about the posture after today's chat.
30:55
Speaker 1: But I mean there's a multi there's a multitude of benefits.
30:58
Speaker 1: But as you said, and this is what people don't get, right,
31:02
Speaker 1: you could literally the average punter if the average person
31:07
Speaker 1: who never lifts weights went to a gym two times
31:09
Speaker 1: a week, now here's the caveat and trained effectively, right,
31:14
Speaker 1: not just fucking around thirty minutes. But if the average
31:17
Speaker 1: punter went to maybe three times a week for thirty minutes,
31:20
Speaker 1: and those thirty minutes were really productive and specific to
31:25
Speaker 1: the needs and the physiology of the individual, that one
31:30
Speaker 1: hour or ninety minutes a week is one of the
31:32
Speaker 1: greatest investments of all time because you know, and I
31:35
Speaker 1: know you don't need to. One of the best bodybuilders
31:39
Speaker 1: of all time Dorian, Right, Yates, Remember Dorian back in
31:42
Speaker 1: the day.
31:42
Speaker 2: Well bloody, it's one of the cracking videos.
31:46
Speaker 1: Yeah, Dorian was in and out of the gym in
31:48
Speaker 1: thirty forty minutes and trained four days a week when
31:51
Speaker 1: he was mister Olympia and every other dickhead, every other
31:54
Speaker 1: dickhead was doing five hours in the gym seven days
31:57
Speaker 1: a week and Dorian's like in there for forty minutes
32:01
Speaker 1: and he's having three days a week off. And of course, yeah,
32:05
Speaker 1: there's a few supplements along the way, but his actual
32:07
Speaker 1: training regime was like really unconventional compared to the masses
32:14
Speaker 1: and got amazing results.
32:16
Speaker 3: But as you will know, you know, super compensation I
32:19
Speaker 3: think they call it and what have you. And you
32:21
Speaker 3: know you're trying to you know, micro tears in the
32:24
Speaker 3: muscle so that it's stimulated and forced to grow and
32:28
Speaker 3: what have you. And if you have a train it
32:29
Speaker 3: that can't happen. And that's why a lot of the
32:31
Speaker 3: young blokes especially want the big Warwick farms and their
32:34
Speaker 3: training every day going backwards. They can't open up can
32:37
Speaker 3: of bloody beans, right, So it's it's like it's counterintuity, paradoxical.
32:44
Speaker 3: But to get good gains, you've just got to you know,
32:48
Speaker 3: hear the muscle on a micro level and you know,
32:51
Speaker 3: super compensate and there's your hypertrophy if you eat and
32:54
Speaker 3: eat the right foods, calories, get enough sleep. So it's
32:58
Speaker 3: critical obviously for hypertrophy and getting enough the right macros
33:02
Speaker 3: and whatnot. In the way you go like it's it's
33:05
Speaker 3: it's not volume at all. Yates was all over it,
33:07
Speaker 3: and you know, it's just that we love training so
33:10
Speaker 3: much that we love the feeling, and then we can
33:12
Speaker 3: generally overtrain for optimal hyperchaphy, especially fat loss is obviously different,
33:16
Speaker 3: but muscle hyperchasey calorie surplus critical. So yeah, that's that's
33:24
Speaker 3: very interesting. The thing I was going to say as
33:28
Speaker 3: well with the posture, which again I think when you
33:31
Speaker 3: have got a muscular developed physke you can't have bad
33:36
Speaker 3: posture if you try. I think half the reason people
33:38
Speaker 3: have got bad posture is they've got a no muscle development, right,
33:42
Speaker 3: so all the stuff I'm talking about, my body works
33:45
Speaker 3: better on this, but I'm fairly muscularly developed if you will,
33:49
Speaker 3: and like my posture is good, I don't need to
33:52
Speaker 3: overcook it. So I think sometimes a lot of the
33:55
Speaker 3: stuff I've thought this as well with posture is that
33:57
Speaker 3: it's more the reality is that you know, there's just
34:00
Speaker 3: not enough muscle on the bones to hold people in
34:02
Speaker 3: the right position.
34:03
Speaker 2: Right.
34:04
Speaker 3: So I've got a thing everyone knows, Tiger Woods and
34:08
Speaker 3: the golfer. And there's a picture of him. I took
34:11
Speaker 3: the picture, but he has when he was in nineteen
34:13
Speaker 3: ninety seven. He hits a shot, but it's a hole
34:16
Speaker 3: in one. It goes in the bloody hole. This is
34:19
Speaker 3: whatever tournament it was. And his posture over the golf ball,
34:23
Speaker 3: he's a lot more. He lets go more against gravity.
34:27
Speaker 3: He can see the subtle curvature in his thoracic spine
34:30
Speaker 3: versus what most people do today.
34:32
Speaker 2: And a lot of the top top world.
34:34
Speaker 3: Champion golfers were like this when they were younger, and
34:36
Speaker 3: they were corrected by inverted commas the best coaches, and
34:40
Speaker 3: I believe to their detriment both in performance and injury
34:44
Speaker 3: prevention and what have you, due to the sort of
34:48
Speaker 3: stress on the lower back. And that's a classic example
34:50
Speaker 3: of a bloke who that shot, that particular shot went
34:53
Speaker 3: in the hole, one bounce in the hole. But it
34:56
Speaker 3: was once you see it, you can't undersee it because
34:59
Speaker 3: it just peaks you over the ball better and you
35:02
Speaker 3: can press squash the ball better and you stay out
35:04
Speaker 3: all these things and you lower back doesn't hurt, and
35:07
Speaker 3: it's all these things that I've sort of worked out
35:10
Speaker 3: and looking at other top you know, Rory mclroy Adams
35:12
Speaker 3: got all these players who were great world champions but
35:15
Speaker 3: were arguably better when they were seventeen before they were
35:18
Speaker 3: changed in so many ways, and it's almost manufactured again
35:22
Speaker 3: through what sports science seemed to be correct. But you know,
35:25
Speaker 3: it's really interesting, mate, It's a whole other world. But
35:28
Speaker 3: the posture thing, I'm fascinated as well. We'd like the
35:32
Speaker 3: neuroscience and what you do and anxiety. Everyone's got anxiety
35:35
Speaker 3: and stress. But if you're breathing into your chest all
35:38
Speaker 3: the time, shallow chest, breathing upright, bolt upright, tall, well
35:41
Speaker 3: you can't not have anxiety stress. So yeah, combine that
35:45
Speaker 3: within your head thinking about what might happen, you're gone
35:48
Speaker 3: like it's horrible.
35:50
Speaker 1: Well, you know what's funny as you were talking about,
35:53
Speaker 1: you know, the way that people get trained to you know,
35:57
Speaker 1: however you're standing it's wrong, stand like that, don't sit
36:01
Speaker 1: like that, right and look sometimes that is true, sometimes
36:04
Speaker 1: that is accurate, you know. But I was thinking about
36:09
Speaker 1: the amount of people in the gym who have what
36:12
Speaker 1: we colloquially call tennis elbow or what we more accurately
36:18
Speaker 1: know as lateral epicond. The lightis but basically inflammation in
36:22
Speaker 1: the outside of your elbow golfer's elbow side media epicond.
36:26
Speaker 1: The lightis blah blah blah. Right, But I was thinking
36:28
Speaker 1: about Tiff, who does some who works with me on
36:34
Speaker 1: this show. She's she was telling me the other day about,
36:39
Speaker 1: you know, this pain she's got outside of her elbow,
36:43
Speaker 1: which we would call tennis elbow, and I said, when
36:47
Speaker 1: does it hurt? And she goes, when I do curls right,
36:49
Speaker 1: And I said, well, think about this, like when you
36:52
Speaker 1: stand up, like if everyone just stood up now, if
36:56
Speaker 1: you can stand up, just stand up and just relax
36:58
Speaker 1: and see where your hands are.
37:00
Speaker 2: Now.
37:01
Speaker 1: Where your hands are is usually with the palms facing
37:04
Speaker 1: either your hips or the back, you know, like your
37:08
Speaker 1: palms aren't forward right, So in order to get your
37:12
Speaker 1: arm standing up now, but in order to get your
37:14
Speaker 1: palms here, you've literally got to like rotate your forearms.
37:20
Speaker 1: And so we're now standing in an unnatural position. And
37:23
Speaker 1: then we put sixty pounds or whatever in our hands,
37:26
Speaker 1: and then we do this movement up this elbow flexion
37:29
Speaker 1: and elbow extension, and we go to the bottom of
37:31
Speaker 1: this movement. Now we're standing with our palms facing forward,
37:35
Speaker 1: which we never do. And now not only are we
37:38
Speaker 1: doing this weird movement, we've got that underload, right, which
37:42
Speaker 1: is why you know, and there are so many things
37:44
Speaker 1: that we do in the gym that are not normal
37:47
Speaker 1: day to day movements, or we're not in the normal
37:50
Speaker 1: plane of movement, or we're not how our we're externally
37:54
Speaker 1: or internally rotated in a weird way, and then we
37:57
Speaker 1: loaded up with weights. So then the easy fix for
38:01
Speaker 1: that is do hammer curls or do curls with your
38:05
Speaker 1: palms facing your midline, you know, is facing your spine,
38:09
Speaker 1: so instead of curling like that. And you can see
38:11
Speaker 1: we're curling like that as you know, right. But there's
38:16
Speaker 1: there are a lot of things that are that are
38:18
Speaker 1: taught in gyms, and I guess involf and horse riding
38:23
Speaker 1: that actually absolutely under scrutiny. Don't stand up.
38:29
Speaker 3: That's a very good point and that's what I've been
38:32
Speaker 3: working on in the golf space especially and with it.
38:34
Speaker 3: I'm lucky I've played a lot of junior golf and
38:37
Speaker 3: was played on my life and one of my junior
38:39
Speaker 3: golf buddies golf pro at my club. Actually it turns
38:42
Speaker 3: out and really humble guy and sort of not full
38:47
Speaker 3: of ego and like, oh no, that's wrong, blah blah.
38:49
Speaker 3: But funnily enough, did like four unit maths and quite
38:53
Speaker 3: intellectually bright, so he understands physics and things. So it's
38:57
Speaker 3: fascinated him and work out a few bits and pieces
39:01
Speaker 3: and just looking at it in terms of more physics
39:05
Speaker 3: gravity momentum forces than are a mass instead of just
39:09
Speaker 3: what everyone does. Yeah, one hundred thousand lemons can't be
39:12
Speaker 3: wrong because and getting back to the point of what
39:14
Speaker 3: got me onto this. You're gonna laugh. I think you
39:16
Speaker 3: might bust a riby on this one, so you know,
39:19
Speaker 3: just giving you some.
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Speaker 1: Let me put let me type up this tape up.
39:23
Speaker 3: Please, but like, okay, no offense to all the golfers.
39:27
Speaker 3: But here's the reality, right The golf ball doesn't fucking move.
39:30
Speaker 3: It's on the ground and it's stationary. We're not hitting
39:33
Speaker 3: baseballs at one hundred miles an hour. It's not cricket
39:36
Speaker 3: with glenmorgrab banging them down a warning God rest he
39:39
Speaker 3: solid he's primate and bloody, all sorts of crazy balls
39:43
Speaker 3: that he used to write. The ball doesn't move, but
39:45
Speaker 3: everyone's shit. My brain cannot let that go. The ball
39:50
Speaker 3: doesn't move, gravity doesn't change, right, the club is the
39:53
Speaker 3: same weight and length, and your body doesn't change all
39:57
Speaker 3: of There are no external variables, so it's you can
40:00
Speaker 3: understand the variables the swing coade if you will, of
40:03
Speaker 3: your body, because the flipping ball's not moving. You can't.
40:05
Speaker 3: You should not be that shit. So about four years
40:08
Speaker 3: ago and go to any driving range. I won't even
40:11
Speaker 3: say what they say because you know, too many beeps,
40:14
Speaker 3: but like it is, just blokes are just headless of
40:19
Speaker 3: themselves that they just can't hit it and they just
40:21
Speaker 3: blow up and they're just filthy on themselves. And it
40:24
Speaker 3: should the thing that you know, I just couldn't put down,
40:27
Speaker 3: was it. It shouldn't be that hard because the thing's
40:29
Speaker 3: not moving now, so that you don't need brilliant hand
40:33
Speaker 3: like coordination because you're not hitting a moving target. And
40:36
Speaker 3: here's another little I know was sort of into the
40:38
Speaker 3: sports science performance world today, but we've done a million
40:41
Speaker 3: on other.
40:43
Speaker 2: Things, so it's probably good to have a little pivot anyway,
40:45
Speaker 2: Prague Anthony. But what I here's another thing I remember.
40:50
Speaker 3: I remember going on dates and whatnot back in my
40:53
Speaker 3: early late teens early twenties, like tenpin bowling. I was
40:58
Speaker 3: the shittest tenpin bowl the world's ever seen. Like, you
41:02
Speaker 3: can't if you think you're shit listening to this, you're
41:04
Speaker 3: not shit.
41:05
Speaker 2: I was that shit, right, just shit harder. I tried
41:08
Speaker 2: the worse.
41:09
Speaker 3: I was like, you need the bumpers up everything for me,
41:12
Speaker 3: and I still might hag it down another few hours.
41:14
Speaker 3: Like I was just shitouse And so there was that
41:18
Speaker 3: factor and darts free throws shit. Then I thought, hang on, okay,
41:24
Speaker 3: what if this posture I'm talking.
41:26
Speaker 2: About, you know you've got if you look at.
41:30
Speaker 3: Like I can remember distinctly people, you know, lazy type
41:33
Speaker 3: people who were just weapons at tenpin bowling, darts, these
41:38
Speaker 3: sorts of things because they've dropped the center of mass.
41:41
Speaker 3: It's this posture I'm talking about, and I believe it
41:44
Speaker 3: enhances the hand eye piece or just your body awareness,
41:48
Speaker 3: the whole biomechanics. The feel is different in this postural
41:53
Speaker 3: engagement piece. So the yeah, the like for me, tenpin bowling, darts,
41:59
Speaker 3: free throws horribly shit, right, And I think there's a
42:04
Speaker 3: whole heap of merit in that, and people who are
42:07
Speaker 3: listening to these you might think, shit, my mate, Barry,
42:11
Speaker 3: Barry's never been to the gymmy as twenty schooners a night.
42:14
Speaker 3: The blokes could be professional dark player. He's carrying probably
42:17
Speaker 3: thirty or forty kegs extra and the bloke's an absolute
42:20
Speaker 3: weapon at darts, tempin, bowling, whatever, because of this posture
42:24
Speaker 3: that this person's got because they're just a bit lazy, right,
42:27
Speaker 3: But then we overcook the posture, we overcooked the tension,
42:30
Speaker 3: and we don't have that what inverted Comma's natural ability?
42:33
Speaker 3: And that leads me to another point around we think
42:36
Speaker 3: people have got these natural gifts and ability, what if
42:39
Speaker 3: they just got lucky with the posture that they adopted,
42:41
Speaker 3: which lended itself more to the sport that they chose.
42:45
Speaker 3: And I believe that's a lot more of the case
42:47
Speaker 3: than people being naturally gifted, especially with a non moving target,
42:50
Speaker 3: for God's sake, and watching major tournaments and the best
42:53
Speaker 3: golfers in the world a road hooking at left off
42:55
Speaker 3: the first t to the point that I googled the
42:58
Speaker 3: golf course to see if there was an ocean on
43:00
Speaker 3: the right. Because I'm thinking, these are the best golfers
43:02
Speaker 3: in the world, and this now booking it off the
43:04
Speaker 3: first like, this is not that doesn't add up to me.
43:06
Speaker 3: My brain's like, hang on, this isn't like the local
43:09
Speaker 3: club champs. But these are the best golfers in the
43:11
Speaker 3: world and they're almost putting it out of bounds off
43:13
Speaker 3: te box one. So again, and then by that point
43:16
Speaker 3: I'd worked out things about the posture. So mate, welcome
43:20
Speaker 3: to my mind.
43:21
Speaker 2: Harps. Have you have you.
43:24
Speaker 1: Ever heard have you ever heard of a guy called
43:26
Speaker 1: Luke Littler l I double T L E R. No,
43:31
Speaker 1: you're not near a computer.
43:32
Speaker 2: You only have your phone, right, Yeah, but I will
43:35
Speaker 2: google him later.
43:36
Speaker 1: Yeah. So Luke Littler, God bless him is. He is
43:39
Speaker 1: an absolute phenom in darts.
43:44
Speaker 3: Now.
43:45
Speaker 1: If you look at Luke, Luke looks like and I
43:48
Speaker 1: mean this with respect, like he's a big boy. He
43:51
Speaker 1: does not look like by the way, he's fucking brilliant. Right.
43:56
Speaker 1: He started winning like big titles when he was sick.
44:00
Speaker 1: He's seventeen years old. Now he's a big boy. We
44:04
Speaker 1: would say he's not fit. He probably doesn't have a
44:07
Speaker 1: great diet, and he just does not look like an
44:12
Speaker 1: athlete at all. But darts, of course, incredible hand eye coordinations, skill, dexterity,
44:20
Speaker 1: balanced timing, fucking eyes whatever I mean it is. I
44:25
Speaker 1: wouldn't call it athletic, but it's definitely.
44:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a game of skill. It requires precision repetition, yes.
44:32
Speaker 1: One hundred and he's amazing. He's amazing, and it kind
44:36
Speaker 1: of supports your theory, you know, whereas he does not
44:40
Speaker 1: at all look like an athlete. He looked by the way,
44:44
Speaker 1: it looks like he's thirty years old. He's got stubble.
44:48
Speaker 3: But what you touched on there is exactly what I'm
44:51
Speaker 3: I absolutely believe. I'm glad we actually somehow came onto
44:56
Speaker 3: this topic today because we were talking. You mentioned that
45:00
Speaker 3: post about anxiety, which I'm glad you did because that
45:03
Speaker 3: was the starting point regarding parasympathetic belly breathing diaphragmatic which
45:08
Speaker 3: is optimized and you know that it forces you to
45:12
Speaker 3: do that when you let go against gravity and the
45:14
Speaker 3: sternam drops. But that also helps neurologically physiologically with anxiety,
45:19
Speaker 3: stress and whatnot, but also sports performance and these types
45:23
Speaker 3: of people I've got a client of mine. Right, he's
45:25
Speaker 3: commercial real estate. He's not a bloody professional athlete. But
45:28
Speaker 3: he started playing just like basketball Monday nights, and you know,
45:32
Speaker 3: sometimes we had about all sorts of things, and I
45:36
Speaker 3: told him to try this, mate, he might be I
45:39
Speaker 3: don't think he's missed a free throw in competition since once.
45:43
Speaker 3: He just did what we're talking about here. He goes,
45:46
Speaker 3: you dead set onto something here like this is like
45:49
Speaker 3: it changes the mechanics. If you will, your center of
45:52
Speaker 3: mass drops, You've got more feel. I think what it does,
45:55
Speaker 3: he says, that isolates the variables, like there's not as
45:59
Speaker 3: many moves in parts when you're up taller, sorry, when
46:02
Speaker 3: you dropped down and it's just sort of the arm
46:05
Speaker 3: piece and it's not everything. Sort of you're more dynamically
46:09
Speaker 3: stable when you've dropped. And Paul Batman album mate dot
46:14
Speaker 3: PhD in exercise science, I running through all this and
46:16
Speaker 3: he's like, mate, I think you're actually right. I think
46:19
Speaker 3: we overcooked it. I think with all this stuff you
46:21
Speaker 3: know in sports science. And we chat away a bit
46:25
Speaker 3: and he said, you know what with Obviously Daniel's son
46:29
Speaker 3: tragically passed away, but Daniel was an olympic. He went
46:32
Speaker 3: to the Olympics for Australia, one of the best four
46:34
Speaker 3: hundred meter runners Australia's ever had, and Paul said to me,
46:38
Speaker 3: he said, you know what, with sprinting, they actually teach
46:41
Speaker 3: you to get down low, like you drop your sternham
46:44
Speaker 3: And I was never, ladies and gentlemen that good at sprinting,
46:47
Speaker 3: rest assured, But I have had a few cracks out
46:50
Speaker 3: at doing this. Then tell you what there might have
46:52
Speaker 3: to be a comeback to because I'm lightning, absolutely lightning.
46:58
Speaker 2: You use the ground more, you agree with the action
47:01
Speaker 2: forces are massively enhanced and you just push the glots everything.
47:05
Speaker 1: So well, if you see, if you see, you sayin
47:07
Speaker 1: bolt over the first forty meters, he's looking at the ground, Yes, yeah, yeah,
47:14
Speaker 1: he's literally in significant you know, pelvic flexion. Yes, and
47:21
Speaker 1: he's hunched over. He starts to stand more upright, and
47:26
Speaker 1: I mean maybe it's not forty meters, but it's definitely
47:29
Speaker 1: twenty or thirty meters. Well, he's hunched over, he's running
47:33
Speaker 1: in yes, almost a prone position.
47:36
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeshaps it's really I'm so glad we touched
47:40
Speaker 3: on this. I'd love to unpack it, you know, in
47:42
Speaker 3: future you know, episodes if people are interested, because I
47:46
Speaker 3: think there's a big like a few things have been missed,
47:50
Speaker 3: you know, by you know, when we're the most guilty
47:53
Speaker 3: is judge, we've got the bloody degrees, like and it's
47:56
Speaker 3: just really looking at where things you know, originated from
47:59
Speaker 3: and what. And I think a lot of this with
48:01
Speaker 3: posture is everybody knows if you don't round your back
48:04
Speaker 3: when you pick something up, because you'll hurt. You're like,
48:06
Speaker 3: you know, all that got it, but then we took
48:07
Speaker 3: it too far the other way. We hollowed the shit
48:10
Speaker 3: out of it, and we were bolt upright right, so
48:12
Speaker 3: you split the difference. And the spine is a wonderful thing,
48:15
Speaker 3: Like it's like a snake. And also because of the
48:17
Speaker 3: way the human spine is, you know, it's actually can
48:21
Speaker 3: be put into so many different subtle variations that under
48:25
Speaker 3: clothes and different body composition and aesthetics is very hard
48:28
Speaker 3: to detect, especially up in the thoracic and you know,
48:31
Speaker 3: but with the breathing for me, like it's a game
48:35
Speaker 3: changer because when you're up in your chest you can
48:37
Speaker 3: get really rattled and anxious, and when you're in your belly,
48:40
Speaker 3: you're good as gold, and that obviously affects sports, but
48:42
Speaker 3: just mental well being for God's sake, to get rid
48:45
Speaker 3: of the bloody anxiety that plagues everyone.
48:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, I was just thinking then when
48:50
Speaker 1: you're talking about picking something up off the floor, right,
48:53
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, you know, activate your TVA transverse
48:58
Speaker 1: subdominance like into it. Like it's almost like you get
49:01
Speaker 1: into this weird position that you're never in right now.
49:05
Speaker 1: While you're in that weird position that's not usual or
49:08
Speaker 1: normal for you pick some shit up. It's like, you know,
49:13
Speaker 1: and I mean, of course, like activating your core and
49:16
Speaker 1: all of that. Of course not a bad thing, of course,
49:18
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it is. It is funny that
49:21
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff, especially in in exercise science,
49:26
Speaker 1: that like you and I, you and I both got
49:28
Speaker 1: taught at some stage, well I did, I'm sure you did,
49:31
Speaker 1: and a lot of our listeners are. Okay, So power
49:35
Speaker 1: is two to four reps. Strength is four to eight reps,
49:38
Speaker 1: eight to fifteen reps. Anything above fifteen reps is muscular
49:43
Speaker 1: endurance and what a lot of fucking bullshit, Like think
49:46
Speaker 1: about Olympic cyclists who do thousands of fucking reps and
49:51
Speaker 1: they've got the biggest quads in the world, you know
49:54
Speaker 1: what I mean, thousands of thousands of reps of the
49:58
Speaker 1: same way. Think about Olympic swimmers who are just doing
50:02
Speaker 1: basically the same movement countless times with the same body
50:06
Speaker 1: and the same resistance through the water depending on how
50:10
Speaker 1: fast they're going or what stroke they're doing. But who
50:13
Speaker 1: have got these giant fucking shoulders and backs. You know,
50:17
Speaker 1: Like there's so much that is held as kind of gospel.
50:22
Speaker 2: I'm scientific in stone.
50:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like it's complete bullshit.
50:28
Speaker 2: You one more thing I want you to sorry interrupt,
50:30
Speaker 2: I get excited.
50:30
Speaker 1: I'm ready, I'm ready. One more.
50:32
Speaker 3: One more thing, Like next, I know you're a deadlifting spleened.
50:37
Speaker 2: At your local Jimmy. Like, so next time you're deadlifting,
50:41
Speaker 2: probably in the night, you'll be there. You love it.
50:43
Speaker 3: But next time you're deadlifting, right, try this because now
50:47
Speaker 3: once you're aware of it, you have these profound realizations.
50:51
Speaker 3: You go to deadlift. Everyone talks about core and core
50:53
Speaker 3: engagement and activation. I'm certain it's involuntary when the posture
50:58
Speaker 3: is correct. It's not in a girl quantum physics, string
51:01
Speaker 3: theory folks, all, but that it's been turned into that
51:04
Speaker 3: for Fox's sake.
51:05
Speaker 2: Same with the bloody Gulf swing.
51:06
Speaker 3: Like everyone's treating the effects during the swing, which is
51:09
Speaker 3: mission impossible dot com versus like getting it right with
51:13
Speaker 3: posturally and the pressure and then it's automatic. So but
51:16
Speaker 3: with a dead lift, when you go, when you like
51:20
Speaker 3: getting up off the bed, when you go to actually
51:22
Speaker 3: lift the weight, you get down to the bar, you
51:24
Speaker 3: go to lift that up, you have this little inhale
51:27
Speaker 3: the balloon core infra adominal pressure and your core goes,
51:33
Speaker 3: it engages, but you're not flexing your core. It's intra
51:39
Speaker 3: abdominal internal pressure that the muscles can then brace against
51:43
Speaker 3: versus an empty void and just a telegraph pole and
51:48
Speaker 3: then but that's what we do when we're deadlift. We're
51:51
Speaker 3: not excessively hollowing our lumber back to our detriment because
51:54
Speaker 3: the erect of spine muscles are like not taking a
51:57
Speaker 3: knife to a gunfight. No, it's that pressure in torso
52:01
Speaker 3: box trunk up with obviously the lumber spine that spinal erectors.
52:05
Speaker 3: But the intra abdominal pressure is so big. That's what
52:08
Speaker 3: we do, but we don't realize it. Now me back
52:10
Speaker 3: as a personal trainer. Oh, it's distinctly remembered Tea teaching
52:13
Speaker 3: the squat, right, this is it's not funny, but it
52:16
Speaker 3: was so wrong when I look back to it.
52:17
Speaker 2: It's not funny, but it just wasn't what I thought
52:21
Speaker 2: I was doing.
52:21
Speaker 3: So someone you're teach him how to squat rite chest out,
52:25
Speaker 3: shoulders back, you know, chest out. I used to say
52:27
Speaker 3: chest out, bum out, comming in, chest out, bumm out, tummy,
52:30
Speaker 3: and that was Ouzzie Jeff.
52:31
Speaker 2: I still remember it. Chest out, bumming out coming in.
52:34
Speaker 3: My flip and tummy is not in when I'm doing
52:36
Speaker 3: a heavy squat, like my guts press out. I'm not
52:40
Speaker 3: not you get under any proper weight, you are not
52:42
Speaker 3: sucking your navel in. You do, you'll absolutely you'll be
52:45
Speaker 3: straight to the hospital. But we don't. For whatever reason,
52:49
Speaker 3: we don't. We don't. We didn't realize that, like you
52:52
Speaker 3: might be about to squat. Tommy's in here sort of
52:55
Speaker 3: prepping to do it. As soon as you take the
52:57
Speaker 3: weight off the rack, the guts are pressed out and
53:01
Speaker 3: the core is rock solid, like someone could punch you
53:03
Speaker 3: in the guts. It's it's like you're bracing for a
53:06
Speaker 3: stomach punch. That's how your squat. Your navel's not drawn in.
53:10
Speaker 3: But yet, for whatever reason, that was what we sort
53:12
Speaker 3: of told people and those that are like I don't understand. Well,
53:16
Speaker 3: now bloody well know why because I was never doing that.
53:18
Speaker 3: I might have just been doing it esthetically prior to
53:21
Speaker 3: because once there's a weight, we have to do that.
53:24
Speaker 1: Mm well, think about the biggest squatters in the world.
53:28
Speaker 1: They all have those. Firstly, they have those big fat
53:31
Speaker 1: white belts. Yeah, their gut is literally pushed against that. Yeah. Mate,
53:38
Speaker 1: we're going to wind up. But I'm looking at your
53:42
Speaker 1: Instagram right now. You've got zero followers and you don't
53:45
Speaker 1: even follow me. That's very hurtful. So you better jump on.
53:50
Speaker 2: Have one next time, Greig Anthony Hamper.
53:52
Speaker 1: Next time you'll have one, Hey, buddy, Speaking of Instagram,
53:57
Speaker 1: So Jeff's Insta is just ge f F Jeff Jowett
54:02
Speaker 1: all one word, two teas on jouet Jeff Jowett. You
54:05
Speaker 1: can follow him on install. Where else can people connect
54:08
Speaker 1: with you? Grace?
54:09
Speaker 2: That'd be it harps. I keep it real simple, ha ha.
54:13
Speaker 1: Okay, So if people want to message you know, I
54:17
Speaker 1: know you're a fucking hermit and you hate people, which getting.
54:20
Speaker 3: Out there made I'm really introducing myself to sort of society.
54:23
Speaker 3: And I'm out there at the gym and I'm getting
54:24
Speaker 3: out and about and go for this and that. So
54:26
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call myself a social butterfly opening of an
54:30
Speaker 3: envelope like I was back in the day when you
54:32
Speaker 3: came down to visit.
54:33
Speaker 2: At Body trim mate.
54:34
Speaker 3: But I'm crawling out of the cave and you know, reassimilating.
54:39
Speaker 2: It's good.
54:40
Speaker 1: I remember you'd taken me out for lunch with I
54:43
Speaker 1: think two other blokes that I didn't know, and this
54:45
Speaker 1: would have been fifteen years ago, and I was, you know,
54:50
Speaker 1: full eating disorder mode. I think I had two lettuce
54:53
Speaker 1: leaves and a third of a chicken breast and three
54:56
Speaker 1: cups of air and you and your mates had million dollars.
55:01
Speaker 3: A line and about bloody the slow cook lambs at
55:04
Speaker 3: the Athenian Greek restaurant there on Barricks Street.
55:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, correct, And I'm pretty sure lunch was too
55:10
Speaker 1: grand And I like, who is this person? What is
55:15
Speaker 1: this You are such a different person to that person.
55:19
Speaker 3: But I think that that's a big part of like
55:22
Speaker 3: it wasn't like I poked around it that life like
55:24
Speaker 3: I you know, I did it and it was wonderful,
55:28
Speaker 3: and you know, it's sort of like it's an adventure
55:30
Speaker 3: life and like you know, so I don't. They were
55:34
Speaker 3: great times and all the great meals and whatnot, but
55:37
Speaker 3: like you know, at this point in my life, I'm
55:40
Speaker 3: just's nice to keep it simple, but yeah, times change
55:43
Speaker 3: and what have you.
55:44
Speaker 1: Well, mate, I appreciate you. It's good to catch up.
55:47
Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye affair, but for the minute, thanks again, buddy.
55:49
Speaker 1: Appreciate you.
55:50
Speaker 2: Always a pleasure, never a chore for you. Harps