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Ridiculous Stuff We Didn't Get To in 2026, Part One: 60 Minutes and Other Natural Wonders · Ridiculous History

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  Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, fellow ridiculous historians. Thank you, as always, so
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  Speaker 1: who never forgets, our super producer, Mr. Max Williams.
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  Speaker 3: Max, like an elephant. There it is.
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  Speaker 1: That's Noel Brown. I'm Ben Bullen. And Noel, you and
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  Speaker 1: I and Max are very excited because this is a
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  Speaker 1: series we get to do Every so often, and the
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  Speaker 1: best way to say it is we do so much research,
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  Speaker 1: we do so many episodes with our team, and we
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  Speaker 1: can't always get to everything.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's true, and this is exactly the kind of
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  Speaker 3: episode that builds over time. Yes, yes.
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  Speaker 1: Backstage, folks, we call this our leftovers research. It is
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  Speaker 1: all the stuff we didn't get to. Now, it's no
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  Speaker 1: secret that we are recording on September 24th, and by
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  Speaker 1: the time you hear this, there's a strong possibility that Noel, Max,
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  Speaker 1: and yours truly are will be in Bermuda.
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  Speaker 3: Lost at sea.
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  Speaker 1: Lost at sea.
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  Speaker 2: Battling El Nino.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, which is not that Nino this year. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's apparently Spanish for the Nino.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it is.
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  Speaker 1: So this is kind of a clip show format for
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  Speaker 1: us here. We are going to introduce you to a
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  Speaker 1: lot of concepts that that we didn't originally get to
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  Speaker 1: in previous shows.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I will say that is what makes this different
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  Speaker 3: than like, say, a Simpsons clip show, which is recycled
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  Speaker 3: stuff that you've already seen. You may have heard thematically
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  Speaker 3: related material that we're going to talk about today, but
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  Speaker 3: you haven't heard these. That's the very nature of this
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  Speaker 3: whole exercise.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and we are working with live fire. We're not
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  Speaker 1: sure how it is going to go. But I was thinking,
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  Speaker 1: you guys, given that Ridiculous history has been going on since, what, Noel, 2017?
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  Speaker 3: I believe you.
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  Speaker 1: When we signed up for a six-week tour.
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  Speaker 2: It is 2017. Even though I was not on the
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  Speaker 2: voyage on that tour quite yet, I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: in the archives it started in 2017.
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  Speaker 3: Keeper of the archives. Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We're becoming a storied podcast. We're still not as storied
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  Speaker 1: as another famous show whose anniversary happens to be today,
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  Speaker 1: you guys. Today, September 24th, as we record, is the
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  Speaker 1: anniversary of the first episode of 60 Minutes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what an iconic tick, you know, kind of a bummer, though.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm not mistaken, through all these like
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  Speaker 3: weird Trumpy media acquisitions, 60 Minutes kind of had their
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  Speaker 3: wings clipped a little bit. Yeah, yeah, it's a bummer.
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  Speaker 1: And the show was pretty controversial when it started out.
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  Speaker 1: Even the original host were kind of skeptical. If we
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  Speaker 1: go to our friends at Britannica, we're going to see
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  Speaker 1: the following. Viewers tune in. It's a Tuesday night. It's
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  Speaker 1: 10 p.m.
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  Speaker 3: They see.
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  Speaker 1: The first episode of 60 Minutes, there are these two hosts,
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  Speaker 1: Harry Reasoner, talk about nominative determinism, and Mike Wallace. They're
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a very simple set, the kind of thing
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  Speaker 1: you would see on a YouTube podcast today, and they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to tell people what the show is. Reasoner says,
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  Speaker 1: think of it like a magazine for television.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess they did kind of pioneer that format,
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  Speaker 3: didn't they?
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  Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Reasoner here was very excited about this new endeavor,
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  Speaker 1: but his pal Mike Wallace was kind of skeptical. On
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  Speaker 1: the first episode, as Reasoner is waxing poetic about magazines
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  Speaker 1: for television, Wallace is going, I don't know, man, we'll see.
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  Speaker 3: That's like when my friend told me what Twitter was,
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, that'll never work. That makes no sense.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody won. That's not enough. That's not enough characters. Exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I was the same way, man. So it's also interesting
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of what we associate with 60 Minutes today,
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  Speaker 1: that tick, tick, tick that we were talking about, it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't there in the beginning. It didn't become a fixture
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  Speaker 1: until several episodes later, actually until 1968. Jeez, that old?
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  Speaker 1: It's that old, dude.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I know we just announced the anniversary, but
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  Speaker 3: it still kind of blows my mind. I guess it's
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  Speaker 3: one of those things that's kind of always been a
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  Speaker 3: fixture since we've been alive. And also, I think it
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  Speaker 3: was also kind of what marked the end of like
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  Speaker 3: fun television. Like in terms of when it came on,
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  Speaker 3: you knew there wasn't going to be any more like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, full house or whatever it was. That's kind of,
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  Speaker 3: that's when the adult time kicked in. That's right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bedtime show. And eventually it got a
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  Speaker 1: Sunday night time slot which is prime time that happened
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  Speaker 1: in 1975 well and it makes sense.
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  Speaker 3: That Wallace would be skeptical about this new format because
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  Speaker 3: his background was in like early like hard news you
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  Speaker 3: know he uh anchored the CBS morning show um and
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  Speaker 3: did a lot of coverage of the Vietnam war so
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  Speaker 3: maybe in his mind this whole magazine format for tv
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  Speaker 3: was a little on the soft side um not what
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  Speaker 3: it would ultimately become which was pretty hard-hitting expose type
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  Speaker 3: material Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great point because imagine if we're Mike Wallace
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  Speaker 1: and we have to do this new thing and we're
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  Speaker 1: old school journalists. And if you're Mike, you're going, so
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  Speaker 1: what's the point here, Harry? Are we just, we just
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  Speaker 1: sit here and hang out?
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah. And he was also the Highlander and there
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  Speaker 3: can only be one. So what's this Reasoner guy doing here?
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  Speaker 3: That's what he wanted to know. Chop his head off. Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: And it's strange that they hit the zeitgeist at the
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  Speaker 1: perfect time since its origin story, uh, 60 minutes has
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  Speaker 1: become as, as you said, Noel, a fixture in so
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  Speaker 1: much American culture. And they did really hard hitting interviews
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  Speaker 1: and investigations. You know, they, they talked with Coretta Scott
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  Speaker 1: King in 1968. They talked with, uh, Bill and Hillary
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  Speaker 1: Clinton about those infidelity accusations.
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  Speaker 3: What about her email? Did they talk about those?
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  Speaker 1: They didn't get to emails yet. It was 1992. So
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  Speaker 1: they definitely had email, right?
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  Speaker 3: They had to have. Hotmail at the very least. All right.
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  Speaker 2: 1971, the computer programmer Ray Tomlinson.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, but they're not kicking it with Ray.
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  Speaker 2: Public popularity was in the 1990s.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, okay. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So they had emails, but maybe those weren't the focus
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  Speaker 1: of the interview.
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  Speaker 2: But according to the Wikipedia page, the first electronical transmission
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  Speaker 2: of messages began in the 19th century.
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  Speaker 3: In the 1800s. OK.
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  Speaker 1: There's a telegraph.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm just trying to I was trying to zero
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  Speaker 3: in on what I was hitting at with the clipping
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  Speaker 3: of the wings. And it largely had to do with.
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  Speaker 3: They were at the center of that massive lawsuit that
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  Speaker 3: Trump filed against CBS because he accused 60 Minutes of
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  Speaker 3: selectively editing an interview with Kamala Harris.
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  Speaker 1: That's right.
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  Speaker 3: Causing– The bribe. Yes. That's exactly right. It was a multi-billion–
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  Speaker 3: absolutely spurious multi-billion dollar lawsuit that essentially was one of
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  Speaker 3: those kind of– What do they call that? Like a
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  Speaker 3: slap suit, more or less? Like it says intended to
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  Speaker 3: shut them up. Maybe I'm not using that term exactly right.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think you're pretty, a slap suit is like
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  Speaker 2: basically a concept where it's like, we're going to sue
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  Speaker 2: you for so much money. It's going to cost you
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  Speaker 2: so much money to fight this that it's cheaper for
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  Speaker 2: you just to.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what happened. And that is the bribe of
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  Speaker 3: it all. And then, of course, that is what led to,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, you know, when Trump got reelected, installing somewhat
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  Speaker 3: of a, you know, sycophant on the board of the FCC,
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  Speaker 3: heading up the FCC and more or less pushed through
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  Speaker 3: the acquisition of Paramount Skydancer and all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Getting fired. Right.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I love the phrase slapshoot. And thank you for teaching
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  Speaker 1: me that, because. It's absolutely a legal war of attrition. Well,
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  Speaker 1: they're supposed to be illegal. Slapsuits are supposed to be like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they're frivolous. Lawsuits are illegal.
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  Speaker 2: But an amazing episode of last week tonight about slapsuits
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  Speaker 2: with John Oliver. Basically, it was right after they got
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  Speaker 2: out of a slap suit. They discussed the slap suit.
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  Speaker 2: They got thrown out.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the problem is, you know, of course, when
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  Speaker 3: you have someone like Trump, who not only has all
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  Speaker 3: of these connections in government, but also has really, you know,
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  Speaker 3: indefinitely deep pockets, you really can't stand up to that.
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  Speaker 3: And it's hard to enforce these kinds of things. Sadly,
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  Speaker 3: with the way our legal system works, anybody can sue
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  Speaker 3: anybody for just about anything. Yeah. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And 60 Minutes had to deal with that pretty often.
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  Speaker 1: We know the best quote about 60 Minutes or one
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  Speaker 1: that I like from a guy named Scott Pelley, who
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  Speaker 1: was a correspondent fired from 60 Minutes, actually. He sums
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  Speaker 1: up the program this way. He said, quote, 60 Minutes
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  Speaker 1: is known for two things, a ticking clock. stopwatch and
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  Speaker 1: hard questions. Just like us, you guys.
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  Speaker 3: We do have that giant grandfather clock we refer to selectively, occasionally. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I can't believe we blew so much of our budget
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  Speaker 1: on that one. But again, we only thought we'd be
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  Speaker 1: here for six weeks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess that's probably not too far off
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  Speaker 3: from how Mike Wallace felt about it when 60 Minutes
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  Speaker 3: first launched.
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  Speaker 1: And with this, congratulations to the good folks at 60 Minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Hold the line if you can. We are moving to
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  Speaker 1: a weird episode that we did not too, too long ago,
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  Speaker 1: earlier this year. Noel, Max, remember we were talking about
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  Speaker 1: this thing outsiders always say about Atlanta. hey guys, why
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  Speaker 1: is every street named Peachtree?
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  Speaker 3: You know, and when we did that episode and had
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  Speaker 3: that conversation and brought that point up, I think I
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  Speaker 3: made the comment that there aren't that many Peachtrees, but
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  Speaker 3: I did do some follow-up, and there really are quite
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  Speaker 3: a ton of Peachtree streets and Peachtree place and Peachtree.
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  Speaker 3: And also, the way Atlanta is laid out is just absurd.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't really have any connection to the grid system
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  Speaker 3: of a city like New York. which might have its
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  Speaker 3: own little anomalies here and there, but in general, you
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  Speaker 3: can kind of know that certain types of streets run
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  Speaker 3: north to south and others run east to west, et cetera. Atlanta,
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  Speaker 3: if you look at it from an aerial view, really
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  Speaker 3: is just kind of an FU into city planning.
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  Speaker 2: It's yes and if it was street design.
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  Speaker 3: There we go.
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  Speaker 1: That's a quotable for Max. We also– we have to
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  Speaker 1: say it. I have to point it out. Every time
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  Speaker 1: we talk about Atlanta– Historically, most cities are going to
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  Speaker 1: be around navigable water of some sort. Atlanta doesn't really
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  Speaker 1: have that. Our rivers, what would be rivers or coastlines
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  Speaker 1: have been replaced by train lines, right? And of course,
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  Speaker 1: the world's busiest airport.
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  Speaker 3: Terminus is what we were once known as because that's
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  Speaker 3: where the rail lines ended or terminated and have a
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  Speaker 3: major junction point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And in our previous episode, we talked about the curious
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  Speaker 1: pattern for any city planning and history nerds of Atlanta.
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  Speaker 1: You will be driving on the same street and it
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  Speaker 1: will suddenly change names. And that is due to institutionalized racism.
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  Speaker 1: But remember, we wanted to end that episode on a
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  Speaker 1: few ideas. non-racist origin stories about street names in Atlanta
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  Speaker 1: with a big thanks to Will Butler and Tiffany Hart
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  Speaker 1: at the Atlanta History Center.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, one of my favorite neighborhoods or areas in
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta is called Druid Hills. And I just assumed it
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  Speaker 3: was named after some weird sect of Druidic cults, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that worshipped in the area back in the ancient times.
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  Speaker 3: It turns out that's not the case. But also, I
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  Speaker 3: will say this that's interesting. In that area, which has
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  Speaker 3: a massive Jewish population and community.
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  Speaker 1: And some great delis.
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  Speaker 3: Really great delis. There are also a lot of streets
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  Speaker 3: that are named after, like, Christmas stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Which is unusual and almost like, is that a joke
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  Speaker 3: because of the Jewish community? Like, I really don't know
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  Speaker 3: the details behind why that is the case. But I
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  Speaker 3: have noticed there are a lot of, like, Not so
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  Speaker 3: far as like Jingle Bell's way, but not too far
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  Speaker 3: off from that aisle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, very close to stuff like Rudolph Avenue. And it's
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  Speaker 1: funny because it reminds me of what Max just said
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  Speaker 1: a second ago. There's a lot of yes anding when
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  Speaker 1: you're a very wealthy real estate developer. You can kind
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  Speaker 1: of name the streets whatever you like if you shake
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  Speaker 1: the right hands. And this is the story of the
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  Speaker 1: developer of Druid Hills, Joel Hurt. That's his last name.
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  Speaker 1: He said he was. OK, so, Noel, this guy visits
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  Speaker 1: the area that will be Druid Hills. And he says,
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  Speaker 1: you know what this reminds me of? And someone says,
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  Speaker 1: what's that, Mr.
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  Speaker 3: Hurt?
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  Speaker 1: And he says, Baltimore, Druid Hills Park, Baltimore. This is
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  Speaker 1: exactly like that place.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it reminds me of how things like this
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  Speaker 3: remind me of how ultimately arbitrary. And it's all just
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  Speaker 3: about who was first to market, you know, who comes
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  Speaker 3: up with a name and it just kind of sticks.
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  Speaker 3: There is a neighborhood in Queens in New York where
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  Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time called Rego Park. And
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  Speaker 3: it is named after the construction company that started developing
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  Speaker 3: it in the 1920s called the Real Good Construction Company.
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  Speaker 3: Rego Park.
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  Speaker 2: Cool.
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  Speaker 1: Like how the Learning Channel became TLC?
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  Speaker 3: Mm-hmm. The Real Good, Very Good, Not Bad Construction Company.
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  Speaker 1: Now, we do have to admit that the Druid Hills
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  Speaker 1: neighborhood of Atlanta, even post-development, does have hills. It has
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of picturesque rolling hills. So Joel Hurt sees
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  Speaker 1: this and he thinks, this reminds me of Baltimore. And
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  Speaker 1: they go, OK, really, sir? And he says, also, this
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  Speaker 1: reminds me of the Celts. of Druids and how they
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  Speaker 1: would practice their various beliefs in ancient Britain.
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  Speaker 2: Sick.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I wasn't, okay. So there's, you're not that far off.
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  Speaker 1: And, uh, you know, he's the money guy. So the
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  Speaker 1: people in the meeting look around and go, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: could see that. I guess I could see that.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's as good a name as any.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And it sounds weird, but we have to remember, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that we in Atlanta are also privileged to have an
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  Speaker 1: entire neighborhood. built to look like the times of William Shakespeare.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, not too, too far off from a little burg,
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  Speaker 3: not too, too far from here called Helen, Georgia, which weirdly,
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  Speaker 3: because of, I think, the Germanophilic nature of one of
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  Speaker 3: the founders, is made to look like a little German village.
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  Speaker 3: But it has absolutely no connection to real Germans. They
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  Speaker 3: do Oktoberfest type stuff there. You can also go tubing there,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of rivers and fun little areas where you
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  Speaker 3: can do that kind of outdoor activity. But, like, It
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  Speaker 3: is absolutely like the Germany part of Epcot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Where you travel the world through an amusement park. And
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  Speaker 1: Helen aside, like Avondale is amazing.
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  Speaker 3: It is. It's a great neighborhood. It's a lovely neighborhood. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that makes sense, right? Stratford-upon-Avondale, I reckon. That's where it's
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  Speaker 3: coming from.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also home to the original Waffle House.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Is that– wait.
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  Speaker 1: That's where the museum is.
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  Speaker 3: That's where the museum is. Like I said, it's technically
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  Speaker 3: still Avondale. That's just a little bit up the way.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't look quite as Shakespeare-y once you get out there.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, the actual downtown.
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  Speaker 1: A little more waffle-centric.
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  Speaker 3: That's right. The actual downtown of Avondale is very picturesque
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  Speaker 3: in that, again, somewhat Disneyland-ified way.
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  Speaker 1: And we've also got a true crime story related to
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  Speaker 1: Atlanta street names.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Martin DeFore, who is an early settler, of the
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta area, and the namesake for DeFore Avenue and DeFore's
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  Speaker 3: Ferry Road was a ferry operator, like the boat. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't run magical creatures on the Chattahoochee River. So here,
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  Speaker 3: the origin of the street names themselves aren't exactly the
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  Speaker 3: mystery in question, but the namesake is definitely at the
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  Speaker 3: heart of one. He became a Georgia true crime story
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  Speaker 3: when he and his wife were I mean, given 40 whacks. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they were Lizzie Borden. They were Lizzie Borden. That's got
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  Speaker 3: its own questionable provenance, that story. But yeah, in their
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  Speaker 3: home in 1879. And to this day, that mystery, murder
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  Speaker 3: mystery remains unsolved.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And if we're in a Halloween mood- Which we are.
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  Speaker 1: Which we are. It's always Halloween in America, especially nowadays.
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  Speaker 1: If we're in a Halloween mood, we would say, campfire
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  Speaker 1: story style, some believe Susan Defoe's ghost haunts the building
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  Speaker 1: where the house once stood.
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  Speaker 3: Of course she does. Why wouldn't she? Yeah, yeah, but also-
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  Speaker 3: What else is she going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Right, right.
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  Speaker 1: What's her dance guard look like? Also, whenever you hear
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  Speaker 1: some believe, look for a specific source. We couldn't interview
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Susan DeFore's ghost.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: No, no. I also love the, yeah, anytime. And some say,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: who are these people? Buckhead Avenue and the neighborhood Buckhead,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: which is kind of a little bit of a posh
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: region of Atlanta, home of. What is that? What's the
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: fancy mall? There's the fancy mall and the less fancy mall.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: There's Phipps. Phipps and Lennox. Lennox. Which one's the fancier one? Phipps?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Phipps is the fancier one. But the Lennox food court
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: is streets ahead.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: Heard and agreed. The story behind where that name came
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: from comes from the anecdotal tales of a 19th century Atlantan,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: a farmer by the name of Henry Irby. Not Kirby. Irby.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Just Irby. Just Irby. Story goes, Irby kills a deer,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: a buck and places the taxidermies and places the head
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: at the front of his tavern.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Was he trying to send a message inside or like
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: on the wall?
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: Outside. So you could see it. And if you're traveling nearby,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: you start referring to it as a landmark, kind of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: like the way. In years past, people would talk about
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: the big chicken sculpture here and there.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: Take a left at the severed animal head.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. And they started to just refer to it
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: in shorthand as Buckhead. And we've got to thank the
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: president of the Buckhead Heritage Society, Wright Mitchell, who verified that.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: that the story is mostly true.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: That's all we need. Mostly he'll do it. Izzy, once again,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: first to market. Weird dude cut off an animal's head,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: put it in front of a tavern. Next thing you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: you got a fancy part of town.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: It was a different time.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Side note, every time I go get a tattoo done,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I drive by the big chicken and it weirds me out.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, yeah, that's a thing that we have
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: here in Atlanta.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: The big chicken is just a vintage KFC sign that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: is a massive chicken with a... mechanical mouth. Yeah.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: And it's like, it's very rectangular. You know what I mean?
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: It's not a realistic sculpture.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: And I'm, if I had to guess, I would say
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: it's from the sixties just because of the art style.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: Let's see. All right.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: Chicken.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Max, while you're on that, we have got to talk
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: about Ponce de Leon Avenue. This is a legendary road
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: that I live very close by too. It was once
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: a road without a name, which sounds so poetic. It
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: led to the property of a man named John Armistead.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And after Atlanta burned down during the U.S. Civil War,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: an ailing rail worker who had been laying tracks near
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Armistead's property goes up to the water source, the springs
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: in Georgia, and he drinks from the springs and he says,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I feel so much better. I am cured.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: This happens in 1871.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: It reminds me of the quote from Monty Python on
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: the Holy Grail. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: from the masses, not from a farcical aquatic ceremony involving
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: strange women lying in ponds distributing swords. Like, just the
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: arbitrary nature of all of these stories. Like, I drank
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: from the water and was cured. This is now named
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: after a Spanish conquistador who maybe definitely didn't discover the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: Fountain of Youth.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and as Monty Python points out, women in lakes
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: distributing swords is no basis for a government.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: Sure isn't. Apparently, yeah, spurious, magical, mystical waters are at
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: the very least the basis for naming a place.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and also we've got to shout out the American
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: entrepreneurial spirit of a guy named Henry Wilson. He's a doctor.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: He hears about this rail worker story, and he says,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: arbitrarily dubs these waters, these springs, Ponce de Leon Springs,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: in honor of the Spanish conquistador Juan Ponce de Leon,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: who obviously was searching for the Fountain of Youth, which
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is purportedly in Florida, which is also very far away
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: from Ponce de Leon Avenue in Atlanta.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Ooh, Max, we got some big chicken history. I think
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I was right.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: We were close. We were close, Noel, because.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Well, let's have the 60.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you said the 60s. It's Johnny Reb's Chick Chuck
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and Shake. So not quite KFC, but definitely chicken related.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Well, I was just more interested in being right about
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: the year. I assumed it was KFC, but that's incorrect.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: It is a KFC now.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: It is a KFC now. Okay.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Okay. So it got gentrified. It got Kentuckified. Yeah. So, Max,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: with the facts, if we can roll the clip. there
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: we go uh max tell us a little bit about
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the origin of the big chicken and then we'll get
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: back to ponce de leon.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah so i was just digging around and marietta which
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: is the name of the city area that has the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: big chicken has a wonderful write-up about it but um
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: The Big Chicken was built in 1963 to basically advertise
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: for Johnny Reb's Chick, Chuck, and Shake. That's the name
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: of it. The owner, Stanley Reginald Tubby Davis, which according
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: to the article, he got the name Tubby because he
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: could eat entire tubs of chicken, fried chicken. Yeah, awesome.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: He opened the restaurant in 1956, but basically in 63, well,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: that's when it got finished, he commissioned people to build
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: this five-story tall big chicken to advertise this restaurant of his.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: And it's still there. And I believe, yeah, it's a
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: KFC now. It's it's an interesting thing. It's one of
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: these things that like people like, oh, yeah, don't you
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: guys have that in Atlanta? It's like, oh, yeah, we do.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: I've never been there.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: It is sort of a roadside oddity thing that makes some.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's kind of it's kind of like a giant
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: ball of yarn. But inside of the I mean, it's
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: on the outskirts of it's in the suburbs.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Or a huge Adirondack chair.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, sure.
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: You're driving by and you see a sign on the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: interstate that says world's fourth largest frying pan. You maybe
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: don't spend the day there, but it's cool to see it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: And also the big chicken is still around. Unlike the
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: taxidermied head of that deer and buckhead, when we get
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: back to Ponce de Leon, we have to tell you
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: those sacred springs that were worshipped by native cultures and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: then later monetized are still around. They're under the ground.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: And in our old office on Ponce de Leon, there
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is actually a cistern that still takes water. from that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: underground spring.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: It's like a water tower. And I'm mistaken when we first, yeah, cistern,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: exactly right. But it looks like what you might picture
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: a small indoor water tower. It's in like a upper
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: kind of utility space of the old Sears and Roebuck
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: warehouse building that our office is. were housed in, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: we were some of the first folks to occupy that building,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: which is now called Ponce City Market. And we got
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: like all kinds of tours during the construction process. And
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: we got to take a look at that cistern you're
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: talking about, which was kind of neat.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: It was kind of neat. And also, Noel, you may
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: remember that the folks giving us the tour said to
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: soak it up while we can because we could never
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: visit that part of the building again.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: That's right. That's why it was a big deal. Pretty cool.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we had to wear hard hats and stuff. It
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: was neat, and it is a natural wonder of Atlanta.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Every city has stories to tell. We also wanted to
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: talk about some natural wonders of not just Atlanta, but
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: of the world.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: For sure. Sadly, one that, well, we got to see
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: one time and we'll never see again, our natural wonder
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: that we mentioned from Atlanta. This is one that you
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: will never see because it's gone. Yeah.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. If you travel over to Malta, per the researcher
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Hesti Bernard Gerber. you are going to hear about something
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: called the Azure Window. It was carved into these limestone
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: cliffs over hundreds and hundreds of years. It withstood all
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: this terrible weather, all these storms while it was around.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: But on March 8th, 2017, it was pummeled into the sea.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And this is coming from our continuing series on wonders
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: of the ancient world with a big shout out to
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: our research associate for that one, Max Williams.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Are we out of wonders? Are we wondered up?
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: We got one more, but it's the most daunting one
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: to write about as it's the one that still exists.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: All the other six are gone. This one's the one
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that we can still see.
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: The pyramids of Giza? Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: It's the oldest one. It's the biggest. I mean, it's
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: probably the oldest one.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: Are we going to solve how they were built? With aliens?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: That's a really daunting premise you're putting on me. Just
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: figure that one out.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: I'm not putting it on you. Just asking a question.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: But you might have figured it out. I was hoping
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: you'd let us know.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you for complimenting my intelligence and my ingenuity.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: And your integrity.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: And my ego.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: And we know that up until 2017, this was a
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: hugely popular tourist spot. for people who visited Malta. As
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: a matter of fact, friend of the show, Josh Clark,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: spent some time in Malta a few years back, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: we've got to ask him if he was able to
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: see this wonder before it collapsed.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: Is this the kind of thing that was just sort of,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: it was only a matter of time because of just
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: natural weathering and such? Yeah, probably.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. But there were efforts to bring it back,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: at least one effort that we know of.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: Right, and this comes to us from that same source
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: that we named earlier, the renowned architect. I'm just going
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: to read it as they wrote it because it's very
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: well written. Svetozar Andreev. Let's get to the last name
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: better than the first. In collaboration with the designer Elena
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Britanishkia has created a phenomenal concept for the restoration of
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: this longtime historical landmark in the form of a massive artwork.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: The two Russian artists have already submitted the concept Designed
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: to the relevant authorities, the remarkable project has already crept
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: into the hearts of the locals. We refer to it
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: as the heart of Malta.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Pretty beautiful stuff, guys. We've got to get over to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Malta at some point for various reasons.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: Also, if you want to learn more about Malta, check
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: out our episode about Malta, the tiny and amazing just
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: like the dog.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Is this a micronation?
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: It is a micronation. They fought a crucial part in
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: World War II.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: They sure did because of their location. Also, don't tell
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: them you think it's a micronation.
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: Fair. I don't think anybody wants to It seems inherently dismissive.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: The Principality of Sealand likes it. They're okay with it.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: They're okay with it. Because they're about as micro as
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: it gets, right? Yeah. Yes.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Well, moving on, we're keeping with our natural wonders leftovers.
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: And here's one leftover from the episode on the statue
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: of Zeus. And this is one weird natural wonder that
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: you can see. What a flip.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: What a flip indeed. Yes. Folks, we asked ourselves in
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the research for this one, does anybody know what a
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: devil's post pile is? Max, Noel and I sure did not.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know. That sounds sinister. Maybe anything devil related sounds.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, also rules, you know, depending on your perspective.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Sounds like a poop.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: I was thinking the same thing, man. I wasn't going
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: to go there.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: Come on. Let's be honest with each other. It sounds
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: like one of those war crime bathrooms. Yeah, bathroom war crimes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So this was established in 1911, the Devil's Postpile National Monument,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: unrelated to feces. It is meant to preserve something called
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the Devil's Postpile Formation. It's the 101-foot-high Rainbow Falls. Now,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: if you are lucky enough to travel around this great
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: state of ours or this great nation, you can see
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: some amazing waterfalls. We're really close to Amicalola Falls, which
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: is worth a hike if you've got the day.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: That's a pretty one. Ruby Falls is another nice one.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just over in Tennessee. This site, Devil's Postpile, is
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: pretty rare in geology. It ranks as We're going to
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: sound like nerds here. One of the world's finest examples
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of columnar basalt.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, I had to look this up myself because
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I think none of us are familiar with this term.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I did take a geology class in college, but all
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: that is lost on me. We do have some really cool,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I actually went here for my geology class in college, uh,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: rock formations that you can, uh, view um at stone
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: mountain and arabia mountain arabia mountain in particular has got
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: some really cool natural uh geologic formations but a post
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: pile is a natural rock formation made of long vertical
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: polygonal columns um most often hexagonal uh that's created because
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: of lava flows when they um cool and contract and
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: then crack into these very regularly sort of shaped and
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: spaced posts And then over time, erosion, once again, causes
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: a cliff face often to be created of these columns
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: or a pile of broken posts at the very base.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: And one of the best known examples of this phenomenon
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: is Devil's Postpile in California.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you want to check it out, just go
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: east of Yosemite, six hours from San Francisco, five and
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: a half from L.A. if you want to triangulate, five
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: and a half from Las Vegas. But because of the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: work going on in Red's Meadow Road, access to the
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Devil's Postpile is pretty dicey. I think it has reopened.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So visit if you can and report back. We love
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: natural wonders that you can see because as we discovered
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: in our previous series, there is one natural wonder you
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: can no longer see today.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Oh, no. Say it ain't so, Ben.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I wish it wasn't so, no, but it is the case.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: This comes to us from the Waimangu Volcanic Valley Rotorua.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: They say that there was once a dominant feature on
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the shores of Lake Rotohamana. The pink and white terraces
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: were often called the eighth wonder of the world, but
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: turns out the volcano erupted, which is kind of the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: pattern of volcanoes, in 1886. and the terraces are no
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: longer with us.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Interesting. I was looking at what Rotorua refers to. It's
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: apparently a city in New Zealand.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: And we know that we are surrounded by natural wonders
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: in this wide world of ours. We would love to
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: hear some of your favorites. And I think, guys, we're
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: going to wrap the episode today, but we have so
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: many more Things we didn't get to. What if we
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: do a second episode this week about extra stuff?
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Well, that sounds good, given that we're going on the
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: high seas and may never return. We've got to leave
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the people with something to remember us by.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like when you leave, when you're
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: about to go on a trip, you want to make
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: sure you eat all the food beforehand. We've got to
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: clear out our really good leftovers beforehand for the chance
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that both of y'all don't return and only I'm left.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Well, we might all get triangled, okay?
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: No, I'm above triangles.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: We can still podcast from the void.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And I don't know what kind of bug-out
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: bags you guys are bringing on the ship.
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Remember that movie Postcards from the Edge?
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: We can do podcasts from the edge. There we go.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: We can only do that with you, fellow ridiculous historians.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for tuning in. Big thanks to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: our super producer, Mr. Max Williams, big, big thanks, of course,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to A.J. Bermuda Jacobs, a.k.a. The Puzzler. He hasn't gotten
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: an update on his street name yet. And, of course,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: a tepid you-know-what-you-did to Jonathan Strickland.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: We know what you did last summer. We know you
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: killed that fisherman in cold blood.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: We found your galoshes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: And your hook hand. Wait, that means you are the.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: I just like to say galoshes.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Galoshes are fun. Big, big thanks to.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: The rude dudes of Ridiculous Crime. We hope you enjoyed
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: our exploration of drugs of yesteryear with the one and
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: only Zarin Burnett.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: Who else, Noel? Who else? Oh, geez, man. We've got
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Christopher Asiotis and you have Jeff Coates here in spirit.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Didn't we thank Alex Williams who composed this theme?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Ah, yes, we must. This is the slap and bop
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: playing in the background. Thank you so much, folks. Please
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: tune in later this week.
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from
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