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- 0:00Speaker 1: And nine Ignition six five.
- 0:07Speaker 2: Four three two one zero.
- 0:12Speaker 3: All engine running.
- 0:21Speaker 4: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time to
- 0:25Speaker 4: sit back and relax, take a load off, take it easy.
- 0:30Speaker 4: There's no need to worry about Texas death matches and
- 0:36Speaker 4: Philadelphia street fights or Chicago whatever the hell they do
- 0:42Speaker 4: in Chicago fights. Set that back wrapped in barbed wire side,
- 0:48Speaker 4: take a stroll, take a load off down at Sunset Beach,
- 0:52Speaker 4: and enjoy Ignition with the aw fat Hub podcast team.
- 0:56Speaker 4: This is Kelson. We've got a lot to talk about tonight,
- 1:00Speaker 4: but I want to start off with maybe some self
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- 1:39Speaker 4: It is August. All in is August thirtieth, right, I
- 1:43Speaker 4: just drew clee blink Wow, wow, you know I was
- 1:48Speaker 4: dropped too many times on my head when I was
- 1:50Speaker 4: a kid. But anyway, we will have much much more
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- 2:01Speaker 4: x whatever. By the way, we're live on x tonight,
- 2:05Speaker 4: I believe, So hope you guys are enjoying yourself. And
- 2:09Speaker 4: before let's see, let's see, we've got Jocelyn in the chat,
- 2:16Speaker 4: says evening everyone, How you doing, Jocelyn? Good to have
- 2:19Speaker 4: you here. And you know, if you're seeing this, you
- 2:23Speaker 4: can go on the YouTube chat which I've posted, and
- 2:27Speaker 4: you can join in the chat share your opinions. We
- 2:31Speaker 4: will call you out and post your whatever you're saying
- 2:37Speaker 4: in chat on the screen. But anyway, let's move on.
- 2:45Speaker 5: Chris with some news for the Jericho Cruise. It's a
- 2:50Speaker 5: new edition, Yes it is. Kofi and Austin Creed have
- 2:55Speaker 5: officially joined on for the seventh cruise of a seven
- 3:00Speaker 5: and cruise the Jericho Rock and Wrestling Racher.
- 3:04Speaker 4: What do they call themselves? Daybreak?
- 3:06Speaker 5: I believe it's Daybreak.
- 3:08Speaker 4: Yeah, did you see that video that they did? You
- 3:10Speaker 4: know what?
- 3:11Speaker 5: The It was a lot of fun and then it's like,
- 3:16Speaker 5: oh man, it made me sad with the Unicorn that
- 3:19Speaker 5: can't join them with.
- 3:21Speaker 4: The broken horn oh Man, Yes, well it is what
- 3:25Speaker 4: it is. But yeah, looking forward to this Bozoo.
- 3:28Speaker 6: Good evening everyone. This is VOW. So someone posted on
- 3:33Speaker 6: the ae W fan Hub and we got a response
- 3:39Speaker 6: from an AW wrestler, meaning the protostar, Kyle Fletcher. So
- 3:45Speaker 6: the question was how many venues have you seen a
- 3:49Speaker 6: W shows that you have attendant? And the answer from
- 3:53Speaker 6: Kyle Fletcher was at least two, which is very funny.
- 3:57Speaker 4: Yeah, I asked him if he even took sky bluetoo.
- 4:00Speaker 4: I mean, he never responded. But this is our AAW
- 4:03Speaker 4: fan hub X account which is absolutely just on fire
- 4:08Speaker 4: right now. And I'm going to be honest with you.
- 4:11Speaker 4: I mean, if you look at it, I mean, Tony Kahn,
- 4:14Speaker 4: aw wrestlers, podcasters from all over the place, they're all
- 4:18Speaker 4: responding to us. It's really been a lot of fun
- 4:21Speaker 4: over the last ten days. We've not really used X
- 4:25Speaker 4: too much until about ten days ago, or well less
- 4:30Speaker 4: than two weeks ago, put it that way, and it's
- 4:33Speaker 4: really really doing well. I mean, if you look at
- 4:35Speaker 4: this graphic right here, I think it's at eighty three
- 4:40Speaker 4: point three eighty three point eight views. It's well over
- 4:45Speaker 4: like one hundred and fifteen k views.
- 4:47Speaker 6: I've seen that you.
- 4:51Speaker 4: No say, yeah, you should have. Well, you know you
- 4:53Speaker 4: still have time because that particular post is still sticky
- 4:56Speaker 4: on the aw fan hub x account. That's ACT aw
- 5:01Speaker 4: fanob join it. I mean a lot. It's not just
- 5:04Speaker 4: people liking. It's a lot of a lot of comments
- 5:07Speaker 4: and it's very well moderated, so you don't have to
- 5:11Speaker 4: when you go on. Actually, ACT has a really bad
- 5:15Speaker 4: reputation at times, has a really bad reputation at I'm sorry,
- 5:18Speaker 4: somebody was. I have a friend that calls me every
- 5:21Speaker 4: time I start a podcast and she knows we do
- 5:25Speaker 4: a podcast that she calls me every single time like clockwork.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Anyway, Okay, Barry, I came in through the back door
- 5:36Speaker 3: there for.
- 5:40Speaker 4: Call it the forbidden door, not the back door, because
- 5:43Speaker 4: you know we are we are a family show.
- 5:50Speaker 7: When did that happen?
- 5:51Speaker 3: Whenever Chris isn't dropping F bombs?
- 5:53Speaker 4: Right, when Chris is a drop of that? Oh well
- 5:56Speaker 4: who dropped the F bomb last week?
- 5:58Speaker 5: It was finals?
- 6:03Speaker 4: That's really good, bud. Yeah. If you look at us
- 6:06Speaker 4: on Apple Podcast, I mean we are explicit because of
- 6:10Speaker 4: basically the occasional F bob that gets dropped every show.
- 6:16Speaker 4: But anyway, let's move on.
- 6:17Speaker 7: Okay, we are going to talk a bit about Rebel Heart,
- 6:21Speaker 7: which is happening September ninth in Athens, Georgia. As I
- 6:29Speaker 7: think everybody knows, it's for our much admired Rebel who
- 6:34Speaker 7: unfortunately has been diagnosed with ALS, and it's to bring
- 6:40Speaker 7: awareness and raise money for the disease. I think a
- 6:45Speaker 7: lot of people are going to show up to this.
- 6:48Speaker 7: It's going to be a really big event. I haven't
- 6:51Speaker 7: checked to see if it's sold out yet, but I
- 6:53Speaker 7: wouldn't be surprised if it is. I've been having a
- 6:58Speaker 7: lot of fun watching everyone do the ice Bucket Challenge.
- 7:01Speaker 7: It's brought a lot of people together. I personally have
- 7:06Speaker 7: liked Rebels since she was actually a wrestler and not
- 7:11Speaker 7: only a manager for Britt Baker. So what are you
- 7:15Speaker 7: guys thoughts on this anyone?
- 7:18Speaker 4: Well, I think it's great. And also you know one
- 7:22Speaker 4: f W was doing this show before and after the
- 7:27Speaker 4: aw Dynamite on September ninth, and they've said that they
- 7:29Speaker 4: are going around that they've for the last several shows
- 7:32Speaker 4: that they've been getting donations for for ALS or I
- 7:37Speaker 4: m l A. I think they specifically said als dot org.
- 7:41Speaker 4: But anyway, they are going to be matching the donations
- 7:44Speaker 4: that they receive, so that's really nice. That's really good
- 7:47Speaker 4: of them. And of course I think one f W
- 7:50Speaker 4: is one of the groups that are one of the
- 7:51Speaker 4: promotions that's on my aw right.
- 7:54Speaker 5: Yes, they are, I believe. I don't know if it
- 7:58Speaker 5: is two Team Marshall else promosting like if he if
- 8:03Speaker 5: he owns he had a piece of Booker, if he's
- 8:05Speaker 5: just kind of heavily involved with it, but I know
- 8:08Speaker 5: he is involved kind of in maybe the running and
- 8:12Speaker 5: framing and things like that.
- 8:14Speaker 4: Yeah, anyway, well, everybody ready to get on with the
- 8:16Speaker 4: meat of the show. But before we do that, of course,
- 8:20Speaker 4: AW Dynamite is tomorrow night. After AW Dynamite, joined Conrad
- 8:25Speaker 4: Cushman and Derek Shelton for their AEW Dynamite review show
- 8:30Speaker 4: on YouTube. That's at EPW show on YouTube. There are
- 8:34Speaker 4: friends from the Everything Pro Wrestling podcast. They do a
- 8:38Speaker 4: Dynamite review show right after Dynamite. It's not right after Dynamite.
- 8:43Speaker 4: They do start usually around fifteen minutes after Dynamite ends,
- 8:47Speaker 4: so you have time, you know, to go get yourself
- 8:51Speaker 4: a drink, you know, freshen up a little bit, walk
- 8:54Speaker 4: the dog, you know, take the dog out. So you
- 8:56Speaker 4: have plenty of time after the show. But it is
- 8:58Speaker 4: a lot of fun and go ahead over there and
- 9:03Speaker 4: really just participate. So let's get on with the show.
- 9:07Speaker 4: We're going to talk about the Continental Challenge Cup. Jungle
- 9:12Speaker 4: Jack Perry will face John Moxley on aw Dynamiti's their
- 9:16Speaker 4: first meeting ever in a singles competition. So a lot
- 9:22Speaker 4: of people are picking John Moxley to advance to the
- 9:25Speaker 4: finals in this. Do you think that that still holds.
- 9:28Speaker 5: True with this Yes, I did. I would love it
- 9:32Speaker 5: if Jack Perry gets an upset win and we are
- 9:36Speaker 5: guaranteed a new Continental champion. But I'm ninety three percent
- 9:42Speaker 5: short Moxley's winning this one and going all the way
- 9:47Speaker 5: to the final.
- 9:47Speaker 4: But that's fair. Like like I said, we did a
- 9:50Speaker 4: poll before the Challengement right after they announced who the
- 9:55Speaker 4: sixteen participants were, and John Moxley was pretty much one
- 9:59Speaker 4: of the people that was pretty much everybody picked. Anybody
- 10:05Speaker 4: else want any thoughts on this match? And what are
- 10:07Speaker 4: you looking for?
- 10:08Speaker 6: A solid match between these two?
- 10:11Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hard.
- 10:15Speaker 3: It's hard to it's hard to kind of game. This
- 10:17Speaker 3: one out Kelson because I think this is a Jack
- 10:22Speaker 3: and Mox facing off the first round or two pretty
- 10:26Speaker 3: good names. Like they're pushing Jack pretty hard, So this
- 10:30Speaker 3: could be a case where I know there's no outside
- 10:34Speaker 3: interference because it's Continental rules, but there's some sort of
- 10:38Speaker 3: I don't know, unsavoriness with Mox, especially tying into a
- 10:41Speaker 3: storyline with Osprey where he's trying to show that, you know,
- 10:45Speaker 3: you have to have a certain mindset to be a champion,
- 10:47Speaker 3: and I don't think he believes that Osprey's really there
- 10:51Speaker 3: yet and kind of uses this as an example to
- 10:53Speaker 3: show that. But I could also see this be a
- 10:56Speaker 3: case where he does something to Perry and and to
- 11:00Speaker 3: get the win and then down the line, not too
- 11:03Speaker 3: dissimilar from what Danny Garcia did MJF at all in
- 11:07Speaker 3: I think two years ago at Wembley, where Jack comes
- 11:11Speaker 3: back and ends up costing Mock something at the end
- 11:14Speaker 3: as well. But you know, on paper, I don't see
- 11:17Speaker 3: any reason why Mox doesn't advance here. I'm more interested
- 11:19Speaker 3: to see how they do this because again they're they're
- 11:22Speaker 3: pushing Perry pretty hard as a as a as a
- 11:24Speaker 3: mid card guy to try to get him established and
- 11:26Speaker 3: move him up. So I don't think we're going to
- 11:30Speaker 3: see a regular squash, and I'm hoping they highlight Jack
- 11:33Speaker 3: quite a bit here because him going toe to toe
- 11:35Speaker 3: with Mox really does elevate him. And I don't think
- 11:39Speaker 3: a win is in the cards, but I'm hoping there's
- 11:41Speaker 3: a little more to the ending of that match, and
- 11:43Speaker 3: it doesn't. It doesn't just like cut off and there's
- 11:46Speaker 3: some continuation afterwards.
- 11:49Speaker 4: Would you guys agree, You know, even if Jack Perry
- 11:52Speaker 4: were to lose this match, it's not going to be
- 11:54Speaker 4: a squash, like Parry said, in my opinion, but I
- 11:57Speaker 4: do believe that even if they have Jack Perry lose
- 12:01Speaker 4: this match, he can still look good at a loss
- 12:04Speaker 4: and be to Casino Gotlin absolutely.
- 12:09Speaker 5: So. I think we saw, you know, Jack Perry, he
- 12:12Speaker 5: was cool with the Bang Bang Gang last week. I
- 12:15Speaker 5: feel like this is gonna be one of those really
- 12:17Speaker 5: good matches. Jack's gonna get so many near falls and
- 12:21Speaker 5: just end up losing, and then we're gonna see that
- 12:25Speaker 5: death Riders come out and attack, which brings out the
- 12:28Speaker 5: Bang Bang Gang, which brings out the dogs, and then
- 12:32Speaker 5: you know, we get all that craziness because I think
- 12:36Speaker 5: we're getting a five on five Bang Bang Gang and
- 12:42Speaker 5: Jack Perry versus the Deaf Dogs at all?
- 12:47Speaker 4: In do you think that? I think, Okay, yeah, I
- 12:52Speaker 4: mean we I did. I know, Net, I believe it
- 12:54Speaker 4: brought up the Dogs and uh, the U, the Death
- 13:00Speaker 4: Writers and the Bang Bang Gang and you know our
- 13:04Speaker 4: preliminary talks here. What do you say about this, Nett?
- 13:08Speaker 7: Well, as far as Jungle Jack, Perry and mox Go,
- 13:12Speaker 7: I do think that Max is going to win, but
- 13:15Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a good fight. I
- 13:17Speaker 7: don't necessarily see the Dogs kind of uniting with the
- 13:24Speaker 7: Death Writers. I think that the Dogs are very much
- 13:28Speaker 7: all about being on their own and have their own agenda.
- 13:33Speaker 7: I don't see it yet, but I think that they
- 13:36Speaker 7: are kind of using the Death Riders for something. I
- 13:41Speaker 7: don't know if it's necessarily to kind of get one
- 13:44Speaker 7: over on the Bang Bang Gang or not, but I
- 13:47Speaker 7: feel like there's something else there. Uh And I don't know.
- 13:54Speaker 7: Maybe it's because I don't quite trust the Dogs.
- 13:57Speaker 5: But.
- 13:59Speaker 7: After all is said and done, maybe it's just wishful
- 14:02Speaker 7: thinking because I'm a big fan of the Bang Bang Gang.
- 14:05Speaker 7: But I think that whatever is happening they are somehow
- 14:10Speaker 7: going to come out on top of all of this,
- 14:14Speaker 7: and I don't know if it's with Jay White or not.
- 14:17Speaker 7: I hope it is, but I just somehow I don't
- 14:22Speaker 7: quite connect the dots and see the whole story yet.
- 14:26Speaker 7: But I do think that the Bang Bang Gang, at
- 14:29Speaker 7: the end of the day, are going to be the
- 14:31Speaker 7: ones to come out on top. So that's my whole
- 14:36Speaker 7: take on the whole thing.
- 14:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, do you think, Nett, because you brought
- 14:39Speaker 4: up a pretty good point. Also in the chat, we
- 14:42Speaker 4: had flight Boy Rex welcome back Butter and he says
- 14:47Speaker 4: it goes unit Marcus the entertainer talking about the Jack
- 14:50Speaker 4: Berry and John Moxley match. He says, I believe this
- 14:53Speaker 4: match is a test for jack Berry and I agree
- 14:56Speaker 4: with that. But Nett, I wanted to go back to you.
- 14:58Speaker 4: Do you think it is important for the Dogs to
- 15:01Speaker 4: kind of get away from the coattails of the death
- 15:05Speaker 4: Writers as far as story.
- 15:06Speaker 7: Goes, I do.
- 15:08Speaker 4: I do.
- 15:08Speaker 7: And the Dogs all by themselves are great. I think
- 15:15Speaker 7: they don't need the death Writers, and that's why I
- 15:18Speaker 7: think that they are using the death Writers to further
- 15:23Speaker 7: their their agenda. I just don't completely see what their
- 15:28Speaker 7: agenda is and I don't think that it is actually
- 15:33Speaker 7: just beating up on the Bang Bang Gang. I think
- 15:35Speaker 7: they have something bigger at play, and yeah, I don't
- 15:42Speaker 7: see them for long sticking out with the Death Riders.
- 15:46Speaker 4: What do you know the people think about I wanted
- 15:51Speaker 4: to ask bring up another question, you know, before you started,
- 15:54Speaker 4: and I apologize for talking over you, but get Kid,
- 15:59Speaker 4: how does he fit into this? Because he's he's a
- 16:02Speaker 4: he's a uh death Rider and he's also a Dog basically, That's.
- 16:06Speaker 3: What I was gonna ask. Is his his visa issues
- 16:09Speaker 3: cleared up? Can he can he work in the States? Again,
- 16:12Speaker 3: not that you guys are experts on this and would
- 16:14Speaker 3: you know have that at the hand, but in case
- 16:17Speaker 3: anybody saw something online, I'm sious that's what kept him
- 16:20Speaker 3: off TV here. Yeah, since coming back from injury, that's
- 16:24Speaker 3: what's kept him off. And that's kind of like the
- 16:26Speaker 3: connective tissue kind of net to your point, that keeps
- 16:29Speaker 3: those two groups sort of you know, related, because Gabe
- 16:34Speaker 3: Kid is Death Writer adjacent even though he's in the Dogs.
- 16:37Speaker 3: So if he's clear, it's kind of to your point,
- 16:40Speaker 3: I could see him showing up with some postmatch Shenanigans
- 16:43Speaker 3: with the Dogs for sure.
- 16:47Speaker 5: That's why he's not ok when does the g one
- 16:50Speaker 5: and Chris Sunday? Sunday is the last?
- 16:53Speaker 4: Okay, so plenty of time before all in time between.
- 16:58Speaker 3: Tomorrow, clearly okay, cool? Right, so he won't be on
- 17:01Speaker 3: TV tomorrow right.
- 17:03Speaker 4: No. By the way, Conrad e p W show in
- 17:07Speaker 4: the chat, did chime in and say mox has to
- 17:10Speaker 4: go to go to the finals? Right? Yeah, that's pretty
- 17:13Speaker 4: much a consensus. Yeah, anybody else with thoughts on the
- 17:18Speaker 4: Dogs and the you know, the Death Riders, the Bang
- 17:23Speaker 4: Bang Gang and well Perry versus Moxley before we move on, No, okay,
- 17:28Speaker 4: so let's move on. Then we've got on the other
- 17:32Speaker 4: side another you know, but what is it? The Continental
- 17:36Speaker 4: Challenge Cup. I cannot get that out of my mouth.
- 17:39Speaker 4: It's just like it's it's it's weird, you know. And again,
- 17:45Speaker 4: you know, between the three, I can't get it out
- 17:48Speaker 4: of my mouth and Berry saying the back door and
- 17:52Speaker 4: all that stuff, we're just all innuentos C three. That's good.
- 18:02Speaker 4: Well the good news good good news is I think
- 18:05Speaker 4: this is the last time we're talking of This is
- 18:06Speaker 4: the last segment, So j White is facing David Finley
- 18:11Speaker 4: in the in the uh in the C three No,
- 18:18Speaker 4: I was like, come on, I was reading. I can't.
- 18:22Speaker 4: I can't read and talk at the same time. They've
- 18:24Speaker 4: never been able to do it. Conrad said, battle the
- 18:27Speaker 4: Bullet Club Leaders, which is the absolute truth. Yeah, how
- 18:31Speaker 4: many times have these guys? I mean we just established
- 18:33Speaker 4: the Maxley and Perry have never had a singles match before.
- 18:36Speaker 4: I am sure White and Finley.
- 18:40Speaker 5: Uh, not as many as you would think, though, but
- 18:44Speaker 5: they they weren't dog lions together, so you know they
- 18:48Speaker 5: I'm sure they had dozens upon dozens of matches against
- 18:51Speaker 5: each other that went to draws. Two young lions come
- 18:57Speaker 5: in roughly at the same time. They go to ten
- 18:59Speaker 5: minute drills about seven times before one gets a win.
- 19:03Speaker 5: But uh, as far as to singles matches, I don't
- 19:08Speaker 5: think it's that many between them because Finley was Finley
- 19:15Speaker 5: ended up a little lower on the card than Jay
- 19:20Speaker 5: White after he came back from his excursion, so there
- 19:24Speaker 5: wasn't a lot of singles interaction unless it was an
- 19:27Speaker 5: the tournament.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Okay, well.
- 19:33Speaker 6: In New Japan for the US title.
- 19:36Speaker 8: If I remember, as I was saying, Wolf did say
- 19:39Speaker 8: something in the chat saying yes, Mock's winning makes sense
- 19:45Speaker 8: and story that is, assuming Osprey wins at all in
- 19:49Speaker 8: and Marcus the entertainer has also said Jay White will
- 19:52Speaker 8: win the Continental Cup, well, Continental Challenge Cups three.
- 19:58Speaker 4: There you go. I'm so proud of myself. Yay, I
- 20:02Speaker 4: kind of slided the back door. There go ahead.
- 20:04Speaker 7: Oh goodness. I have a question a little bit about
- 20:08Speaker 7: this because I was just mentioning Jay White and we're
- 20:13Speaker 7: all kind of wondering how everybody fits everywhere. I'm wondering
- 20:19Speaker 7: if this is an opportunity and will it happen if
- 20:25Speaker 7: Jay White actually betrays the Bang Bang Gang somewhere in
- 20:32Speaker 7: this and just kind of goes out on his own
- 20:36Speaker 7: and does his own thing. Does anybody else think that
- 20:41Speaker 7: that is a possibility?
- 20:43Speaker 4: Before anybody answers, Marcus the entertainer in the chat looked
- 20:48Speaker 4: it up via Cage Match. Jay White David Finley had
- 20:51Speaker 4: seven singles matches. The last one was in twenty twenty one.
- 20:56Speaker 4: Thanks for that, Marcus, appreciate.
- 20:57Speaker 5: That he beat me to it. I was just about
- 21:00Speaker 5: to mention that.
- 21:02Speaker 3: Well, answer your question, Net, I don't think so.
- 21:05Speaker 7: I don't think so.
- 21:07Speaker 3: Now White's the biggest uh star on that stable. I
- 21:12Speaker 3: don't see them positioning anybody else to step up. He's
- 21:15Speaker 3: been away and like they just floundered without like a
- 21:17Speaker 3: clear leader. As much as I like Juice, he's not
- 21:20Speaker 3: like he doesn't have like a guy the guy energy.
- 21:24Speaker 3: He's a good he's a good number two in a
- 21:27Speaker 3: side character. But if Jay White isn't there, who's the leader?
- 21:31Speaker 3: And I don't I don't see that for that group.
- 21:34Speaker 3: Now maybe down the line net if they really if
- 21:37Speaker 3: they start pushing somebody else in singles competition, like Juice
- 21:41Speaker 3: goes on a run or you know, a's Austin who
- 21:44Speaker 3: never wins, he goes on a run or something. I
- 21:47Speaker 3: could say, you know, like I could see that, but
- 21:49Speaker 3: like I don't know who. I don't know who to
- 21:51Speaker 3: pick up the torch, you know, for this match. I'm interested.
- 21:56Speaker 3: I don't know how well these guys are friends, because
- 21:58Speaker 3: I know, like Finley took over after White left and
- 22:03Speaker 3: they did the whole thing over in New Japan where
- 22:05Speaker 3: he took over Bolt Clover or whatever. But David Finley
- 22:09Speaker 3: almost killed j White and no, like literally like I'm
- 22:17Speaker 3: talking like literally whatever movie I was trying to do. Yeah,
- 22:21Speaker 3: that's why Jay took some time off, Like he messed
- 22:23Speaker 3: up his neck pretty bad. He took his neck the
- 22:26Speaker 3: way he did, or that would have been really bad
- 22:28Speaker 3: on the TV show. I think it was on the
- 22:30Speaker 3: pay per view, So I don't know how good of
- 22:33Speaker 3: friends they are, But like, I'm fascinated in this match
- 22:36Speaker 3: because I want to see if Jay gives him a receipt,
- 22:39Speaker 3: because in my opinion, finily deserves one for almost killing
- 22:44Speaker 3: j White. I mean, at a minimum, really injuring his neck.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It was a it isn't wasn't necessarily a dangerous move
- 22:50Speaker 3: they were doing, but Jay did not and I'm sorry
- 22:53Speaker 3: not Jay. David did not spin Jay the right way,
- 22:56Speaker 3: and Jay didn't tuck his any rate. I'm not going
- 22:59Speaker 3: to delve to the mechanics of that, but it was
- 23:02Speaker 3: He could have really hurt Jay White really bad.
- 23:04Speaker 4: But I'm interested.
- 23:07Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those things where I think
- 23:09Speaker 3: it's just well, no, actually I think David. I think
- 23:13Speaker 3: David screwed up the move. I think that's what happened.
- 23:15Speaker 3: I don't think he did it maliciously or anything like that,
- 23:17Speaker 3: or just one of those things. But I'm hoping they're
- 23:20Speaker 3: good enough buddies. They patched it up. But I'm really
- 23:23Speaker 3: interested to see if there's a couple of stiff shots
- 23:24Speaker 3: and receipts, because you know, if not, I think you
- 23:28Speaker 3: might deserve a little a little what what's there?
- 23:31Speaker 5: I would be surprised if there was, just because I said, actually, Findley,
- 23:37Speaker 5: Jay White, and Toose Robinson, they were all young lies
- 23:42Speaker 5: together at the same time, like they really bonded, and
- 23:45Speaker 5: I don't think there's been there's ever been like a like, hey,
- 23:49Speaker 5: fablise they hate each other.
- 23:51Speaker 3: But okay, so.
- 23:54Speaker 5: Still I think they're still really tight.
- 23:56Speaker 3: Yeah, like I'm not expecting Jade almost kill him or anything,
- 23:58Speaker 3: but you know, you don't pull your punch a little bit,
- 24:01Speaker 3: there's a little kick that's stiffer than usual, something like that.
- 24:04Speaker 4: So it'll be interesting to see if there is some
- 24:06Speaker 4: kind of violence as you're as you're alluding to, whether
- 24:09Speaker 4: the announcers say, oh, you know, because then if the
- 24:12Speaker 4: announcers bring this up, that it probably is, you know, kay.
- 24:16Speaker 3: Babe, Like they're not going to say, oh, David almost
- 24:19Speaker 3: killed Jay White with a botched move.
- 24:22Speaker 4: Like you know you can't do that, because but they say,
- 24:25Speaker 4: but if they say David almost permanently and maybe you know,
- 24:29Speaker 4: like ended Jay White's career and now Jay White is
- 24:32Speaker 4: beating him to a pulp. That is probably part of
- 24:35Speaker 4: the story.
- 24:36Speaker 3: Next, Coliber would say, Kelson, you're.
- 24:38Speaker 4: Right, yeah, I mean absolutely. And of course, Conrad, you know,
- 24:42Speaker 4: echoes what we said earlier. Watch out for the scholele
- 24:46Speaker 4: And I am interested to know if he spelled that right,
- 24:49Speaker 4: because I have no idea. I just called it because
- 24:53Speaker 4: that's how I would pronounce it. I know it's Chile,
- 24:56Speaker 4: but I don't know I who cares like pronounce it
- 25:05Speaker 4: sounds like something. It sounds like it sounds like a
- 25:09Speaker 4: lyric from a fifties rock song, you know.
- 25:12Speaker 3: Like you know, do to dance and do to you know,
- 25:16Speaker 3: like Chubby Chuckers out there singing it and stuff.
- 25:19Speaker 4: Yeah, instead twist, everyone's doing it.
- 25:28Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the side. That was the B side
- 25:31Speaker 3: of the Twist.
- 25:39Speaker 4: I tell you they find the weirdest things entertaining on
- 25:42Speaker 4: this podcast. We really do.
- 25:47Speaker 5: Listeners.
- 25:49Speaker 3: But it's like, let's move on.
- 25:54Speaker 4: Well, Wolf and Wolf in the chat did say, I
- 25:56Speaker 4: believe that's the proper spelling.
- 25:58Speaker 2: So thanks, thank you. I would spell it out, but
- 26:04Speaker 2: nobody cares. Moving moving on, we've.
- 26:13Speaker 4: Got a trios match for well, not a trios match,
- 26:18Speaker 4: but a three way match, a triple threat match for
- 26:22Speaker 4: the number two spot in the Casino Gauntlet. Plus, we
- 26:27Speaker 4: have some news about Androti Alitelo saying that he's out,
- 26:31Speaker 4: either out for days or weeks. He's apparently suffered an
- 26:35Speaker 4: injury of some sort. Uh, he got injured, I believe
- 26:38Speaker 4: in Grand Slam Mexico, didn't. I think he had committed
- 26:43Speaker 4: to a couple of matches elsewhere and he and he
- 26:47Speaker 4: did wrestle in those match, but you know that he
- 26:50Speaker 4: did say after that that he was out for days
- 26:55Speaker 4: or weeks. So it's interesting to find out whether he's
- 26:58Speaker 4: gonna be able to perform that. All In is the
- 27:02Speaker 4: number one, but the number two is up for grabs
- 27:07Speaker 4: tomorrow night on Dynamite, Nick Wayne, MJF and Speedball Mike Bailey.
- 27:15Speaker 4: There's some interesting story possibilities here. What do you guys think.
- 27:18Speaker 5: I'm really interested in it. I think it'll I think
- 27:21Speaker 5: we'll see speed involved in Nick Wayne, you know, really
- 27:26Speaker 5: as the bulk of the match because MJF is gonna
- 27:30Speaker 5: go right out of the ring and you know, look
- 27:32Speaker 5: for his spots because that's the type of wrestler who
- 27:35Speaker 5: is he's a genius.
- 27:37Speaker 4: I agree, I'm a genius too, just let you know.
- 27:40Speaker 4: And uh yeah, I think the obvious choice here in
- 27:45Speaker 4: this match is MJF. But yeah, I mean you could
- 27:49Speaker 4: see something here. I don't know, could somebody like Kingman
- 27:53Speaker 4: get involved and cost MJF this match?
- 27:58Speaker 1: So me, MGF showed up with the belt last week, right,
- 28:04Speaker 1: and yeah, yeah yeah, And so he's like, I'm trying
- 28:10Speaker 1: to think back when when Punk did this.
- 28:13Speaker 3: It obviously didn't go anywhere because he did whatever he
- 28:16Speaker 3: did and got booted. But are they like trying that
- 28:21Speaker 3: storyline again where there's a second champion, because it's like
- 28:26Speaker 3: we we saw him lose, at least in Punk's case,
- 28:28Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't drop the belt, but like we
- 28:31Speaker 3: saw him lose, and it's not like there hasn't been
- 28:34Speaker 3: interference in title matches before, and nobody who's lost the
- 28:38Speaker 3: previous titles come back with the belt and said I'm
- 28:40Speaker 3: still the champion. So this is either he's going to
- 28:45Speaker 3: ride this into a bigger storyline or it's going to
- 28:47Speaker 3: be a losing streak where he's, you know, adamant he's
- 28:51Speaker 3: still the champion but yet continues to lose matches. So
- 28:55Speaker 3: is this the case? You know, I could see where
- 28:58Speaker 3: Speedball or or MGF is about to win, and like
- 29:01Speaker 3: Speedball ends up pinning who's the third one in there,
- 29:04Speaker 3: Nick Wing, right, I don't my glass is not it? Yeah,
- 29:08Speaker 3: So like I could see, like MGF doesn't lose, but
- 29:11Speaker 3: Speedball pins Nick to earn the spot. And so that
- 29:15Speaker 3: just adds to like MGF feeling like he's being getting
- 29:18Speaker 3: getting screwed out of here because to your point, Calson,
- 29:21Speaker 3: I I don't see like if he's gonna if this
- 29:24Speaker 3: whole thing is like I'm still the real champion or whatever,
- 29:28Speaker 3: what's the point of being in the casino gunlet to
- 29:31Speaker 3: win the belt that you're saying you didn't actually lose,
- 29:34Speaker 3: like you're declaring your site. Alvarez went on a whole
- 29:37Speaker 3: rant about this un wrestling observer, and I think it's
- 29:39Speaker 3: I think he's right, Like it doesn't there's gotta be
- 29:42Speaker 3: something else here because on the face.
- 29:45Speaker 4: Let me ask you a question, Barry, you know, do
- 29:48Speaker 4: you think that it's a this is a simple fact
- 29:51Speaker 4: of MJF who seems to have free reign with this
- 29:54Speaker 4: creative uh to a large extent because I don't think
- 29:59Speaker 4: that Tony Kahn is approving him coming out there and
- 30:02Speaker 4: saying a lot of things the past. But do you
- 30:05Speaker 4: think that this is just MGF just making fun of
- 30:10Speaker 4: CM Punk.
- 30:11Speaker 3: No, I don't think so. There's no, I don't think
- 30:14Speaker 3: so at all. It's a two year old storyline. You
- 30:16Speaker 3: don't just you don't just pull back to make fun
- 30:19Speaker 3: of somebody like that, even even though Punk's champ right now,
- 30:21Speaker 3: I don't think that factors into this at all. And
- 30:25Speaker 3: whether it is creative rain or not, I mean, there's
- 30:26Speaker 3: a plan here. I'm just trying to figure out where
- 30:28Speaker 3: they're going with it.
- 30:29Speaker 4: Yeah, Marcus entertain Marcus the entertainer the chat did say
- 30:33Speaker 4: this is definitely a story that MJF came up with.
- 30:37Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm just I can't I'm trying to game
- 30:39Speaker 3: it out and I'm like, where do they go with it?
- 30:41Speaker 3: I can totally see him not winning because Speedball, like
- 30:47Speaker 3: especially with how hot speedball is right now, which is
- 30:50Speaker 3: crazy because long term listeners know, like I was not
- 30:54Speaker 3: high on Speedball two years ago. I've seen him in
- 30:56Speaker 3: person a couple of times, and I used to call
- 30:58Speaker 3: him like the epitome of the indie wrestler. He's totally
- 31:01Speaker 3: won me over and like he's hot right now, even
- 31:04Speaker 3: coming off a loss last week. So I can totally
- 31:08Speaker 3: see him pinning Nick to win the spot and like
- 31:11Speaker 3: MGFF is just living and it just adds to the
- 31:13Speaker 3: I haven't actually lost. I haven't actually lost. I got
- 31:16Speaker 3: screwed out of this. But I don't know where they
- 31:18Speaker 3: go with it. I don't think Hangman factors in. He's
- 31:20Speaker 3: the trios champ. He's not really connected here, so like
- 31:24Speaker 3: does ANDRADI factor in? I just I don't know where
- 31:26Speaker 3: they're going with this.
- 31:29Speaker 4: I mean Wolf did say in the chat maybe MJF
- 31:33Speaker 4: just wants to bet on Drade, which could very well
- 31:35Speaker 4: be and uh Conrad epw Show says, I hope MJF
- 31:40Speaker 4: doesn't win again. So there's two opinions from the chat.
- 31:44Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely. It's almost more he wants
- 31:47Speaker 5: to beat up on Drade for stealing his ring than
- 31:50Speaker 5: he even cares about the Casino Gauntlet. He wants number
- 31:54Speaker 5: two because Andrade has number one.
- 31:57Speaker 3: Like thy he won last year too, right did he?
- 32:02Speaker 5: I think?
- 32:02Speaker 3: So didn't you win the gun Run?
- 32:03Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah he did Yeah, that's right, I was there.
- 32:07Speaker 4: I don't know, I can't, I can't. I can't remember
- 32:11Speaker 4: two weeks ago.
- 32:14Speaker 5: But you know, your your idea about speedball winning is interesting,
- 32:17Speaker 5: and there's like there's the perfect finish. You have m
- 32:21Speaker 5: j F pinning Nick Wayne. Speedball hits that ultimate weapon,
- 32:27Speaker 5: m j I throws off Speedball pins Nick Wayne. Instead,
- 32:31Speaker 5: it's the easiest finish if they wanted to go that row,
- 32:35Speaker 5: and like it would help because yeah, MJF would lose
- 32:39Speaker 5: without losing, like he would have yet another excuse and
- 32:44Speaker 5: it would be like everyone is just about to screw him.
- 32:47Speaker 3: Like.
- 32:50Speaker 5: They all hate him because he's better than them and
- 32:54Speaker 5: they know it. So like everyone is just about to
- 32:57Speaker 5: screw him. But he is the re ill Through champion.
- 33:02Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe he's entrance entrant number three or something like.
- 33:05Speaker 3: It's not like he can't still be in it, right,
- 33:08Speaker 3: but it also opens him up if he loses here
- 33:10Speaker 3: to give him a legit match of the paper view
- 33:11Speaker 3: And like, to me, mgf's too big of a star
- 33:14Speaker 3: if he's not winning the Gauntlet to not have a
- 33:17Speaker 3: match on the paper.
- 33:18Speaker 4: Absolutely, you also have to look out. You know, we
- 33:21Speaker 4: talked about Hangman at him page, maybe interfering and stuff. Also,
- 33:26Speaker 4: you got to look at Sworst Strickland. I mean, he's
- 33:29Speaker 4: got to be part of all in. In my opinion,
- 33:31Speaker 4: I would not be surprised if tomorrow night on Dynamite
- 33:35Speaker 4: we see something about Swerve and in my opinion, the
- 33:39Speaker 4: trip will be is just another weapon that MGF could
- 33:43Speaker 4: potentially use to cheat in a match that will backfire
- 33:47Speaker 4: against himself.
- 33:48Speaker 7: I think it'd be funny if somebody stole it from him,
- 33:51Speaker 7: and I don't mean like snatch it in the ring
- 33:54Speaker 7: and run away like it disappeared from his dress. Yeah,
- 33:59Speaker 7: and he just starts stealing his stuff like he's got
- 34:03Speaker 7: his ring, he's got his belly, gets his he takes
- 34:05Speaker 7: the scarf, he starts.
- 34:07Speaker 3: Coming out of his attire. He just kills.
- 34:11Speaker 7: Dressed like him.
- 34:12Speaker 3: Yes, the interview is the Christmas he is the Honkah
- 34:16Speaker 3: Christmas suit. He wears that. Like, he just starts taking
- 34:19Speaker 3: all of the stuff and.
- 34:21Speaker 7: Plays music and everything. It would be hilarious.
- 34:26Speaker 3: Music hits and andronic comes out.
- 34:27Speaker 5: I've been dying that I wanted the interviewers. Of course,
- 34:31Speaker 5: it's like that looks a lot like m J F Scarf.
- 34:35Speaker 4: How you know, Well, well, look look here though, uh
- 34:40Speaker 4: Speedball Mike Mike Bailey is one of Valerie's guys, and
- 34:46Speaker 4: I want to hear what Valerie thinks about this Matchall
- 34:50Speaker 4: gonna do your proud. I'm putting you on the spot.
- 34:53Speaker 4: You're damn right, I am now'll deliver.
- 34:56Speaker 6: Well, I the whole thing that he's gonna win. But
- 35:03Speaker 6: I'm ninety percent sure it's gonna be MJF. But I
- 35:06Speaker 6: agree with Nat with the idea Androttie seiling the triple B.
- 35:12Speaker 6: That would be hilarious some.
- 35:18Speaker 4: But you're so you're giving Speedball ten percent chance of winning,
- 35:23Speaker 4: MG for ninety chance of winning, and Nick Wayne a
- 35:27Speaker 4: snowball's chance of the hell of one. Okay, I gotta say.
- 35:32Speaker 6: I gotta say watching Nick in Montreal in the ladder match,
- 35:37Speaker 6: for me, he was the MVP of this of that match.
- 35:43Speaker 5: He was.
- 35:44Speaker 6: He was extraordinary to see him wrestle. And he's like twenty,
- 35:49Speaker 6: I mean, how good he is for twenty years old.
- 35:52Speaker 4: So I bet and he has. I mean, if you
- 35:56Speaker 4: look at him this year compared to last year, Nick
- 35:58Speaker 4: Wayne has definitely well, he's gotten taller. In my opinion,
- 36:02Speaker 4: he looks taller and he's definitely filled out, He's bulked up,
- 36:06Speaker 4: he looks good. He looks like he could be a
- 36:09Speaker 4: force to be reckoned with very very soon.
- 36:12Speaker 6: And he has no mamal winging with him, which is good.
- 36:16Speaker 4: Well, yes, as you does.
- 36:18Speaker 3: Anybody just read Nick's eat in this pin right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
- 36:23Speaker 5: I think so you know what he can afford to
- 36:27Speaker 5: I think because like that latter match, did you know,
- 36:32Speaker 5: give him a lot of I guess, credibility. I want
- 36:37Speaker 5: to say it doesn't feel like the right word, but
- 36:39Speaker 5: it's the best one I can think of. Like, I
- 36:43Speaker 5: feel like people are seeing what Nick Wayne can really
- 36:46Speaker 5: do and like realizing, like, man, this guy is almost there,
- 36:51Speaker 5: like he's going to be a star. I think it
- 36:55Speaker 5: was you Barry who mentioned that Nick Wayne's twenty twenty
- 37:01Speaker 5: seven could look a lot like Kyle Fletcher's twenty twenty five.
- 37:08Speaker 4: Doesn't mean very very Yeah, that's a good you know.
- 37:13Speaker 4: One thing I will say, you know, if I had
- 37:14Speaker 4: to make a prediction, I think that Nick Wayne and
- 37:17Speaker 4: MJF being both heels, and especially Nick Wayne being the
- 37:20Speaker 4: more inexperienced heel and wrestler, will work against him here.
- 37:25Speaker 4: He will put maybe a little bit too much trust
- 37:28Speaker 4: in MGF. During this match, MGF turns on him and
- 37:31Speaker 4: Nick Wayne needs the pit because of it, because of
- 37:34Speaker 4: the trust. And then Nick Wayne may have a program
- 37:37Speaker 4: of some sort with MJF, which I would not be
- 37:41Speaker 4: against because you know, Kyle Fletcher, when he had that run,
- 37:45Speaker 4: he needed somebody to fight and he got it. And
- 37:51Speaker 4: now it's Nick Wayne's turn. You established a star by
- 37:54Speaker 4: doing something like this. So anyway, I guess we'll move on.
- 38:00Speaker 4: I have to find my graphic here, but uh well,
- 38:03Speaker 4: Chris Jericho and Kevin Knight for the TNT Championship. This
- 38:07Speaker 4: is interesting because I believe I can't remember who was
- 38:12Speaker 4: when we were doing the prep work here brought up?
- 38:14Speaker 4: Wasn't Kevin Knight going against U Speedball Mike Bailey? And
- 38:17Speaker 4: isn't Kevin Knight going against all?
- 38:20Speaker 3: Who?
- 38:20Speaker 4: Did they say? Who wasn't Darby Allen? Right? I can't.
- 38:24Speaker 4: For some reason that slipped my mind. But you also
- 38:27Speaker 4: have Chris Jericho here, interesting because I would not count
- 38:36Speaker 4: Jericho out completely in this match because they could build
- 38:40Speaker 4: a story around this. I don't know what do you
- 38:44Speaker 4: guys think?
- 38:45Speaker 5: It's very interesting? I feel like this is you know,
- 38:48Speaker 5: Jericho being Jericho and wanting to put over a young,
- 38:54Speaker 5: a good young talent that is on the rise. Like
- 38:57Speaker 5: I feel like that's what this really is, because I mean,
- 39:03Speaker 5: why would you have Darby Allen do the challenge for
- 39:06Speaker 5: all In for a falls count anywhere match and then
- 39:10Speaker 5: have Tevin Knight loop? You know, it just doesn't really
- 39:14Speaker 5: make sense. But on the other hand, Tvin Knight gets
- 39:16Speaker 5: a big win against aw's first world champion. He is
- 39:21Speaker 5: riding high coming to all In. He's gonna be tucky,
- 39:25Speaker 5: he's gonna be full of himself, and that's the perfect,
- 39:29Speaker 5: you know, time for a heel to get his come up.
- 39:32Speaker 4: And yeah, are they putting Jericho gets Knight just to
- 39:36Speaker 4: give Knight a big win? Or does it? Again? Does
- 39:39Speaker 4: Jerko actually have a chance?
- 39:42Speaker 3: All Right, They've already booked the all In match, So
- 39:48Speaker 3: this is one of those cases where kind of having
- 39:51Speaker 3: a title match in between pay per views when you've
- 39:54Speaker 3: already got the pay perview mans announce doesn't make a
- 39:57Speaker 3: lot of sense. So it's kind of weird here. I
- 40:01Speaker 3: don't see I don't see Kevin Knight losing, but I
- 40:05Speaker 3: could also see. I struggle to think Chris is going
- 40:08Speaker 3: to lose either to me, like this is a match
- 40:11Speaker 3: that ends in like a no d Q or something.
- 40:13Speaker 3: But you know, Chris, to your point, I wouldn't be
- 40:16Speaker 3: shocked if if Jericho was like, yeah, I want to
- 40:18Speaker 3: put this kid over. You know, some of some CJ's
- 40:21Speaker 3: run so far has been and some people got on
- 40:24Speaker 3: this case because it's cool with him and Chris Rico
- 40:27Speaker 3: the Vortex and all that kind of stuff where Bill
- 40:30Speaker 3: dropped the first two matches and then wins the rubber
- 40:32Speaker 3: match at the end or whatever at the end of
- 40:34Speaker 3: the few. But in this case, like you got a
- 40:36Speaker 3: chance to really put somebody over before all in. And
- 40:38Speaker 3: that's that's the kind of business move that I could
- 40:41Speaker 3: see Chris doing, especially since he re signed, and like
- 40:44Speaker 3: I think he wants to kind of go into creative
- 40:47Speaker 3: and management afterwards here too, because he's not wrong that
- 40:49Speaker 3: he helped found the company as much as the elite
- 40:51Speaker 3: did too. So you know, Kelson, I think to your point, like,
- 40:56Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked if Chris puts them over just
- 40:59Speaker 3: to really help establish Kevin Knight a little more heading
- 41:02Speaker 3: in that paper here. I think that'd be a smart,
- 41:04Speaker 3: smart business decision.
- 41:05Speaker 4: We know we talked about this last week briefly, but
- 41:09Speaker 4: you know, we talked about champions defending their titles heading
- 41:14Speaker 4: into All In, which does not make sense when you
- 41:17Speaker 4: look at it on paper. Why would, as you said, Barry,
- 41:20Speaker 4: you alluded to it, why would Kevin Knights, you know,
- 41:23Speaker 4: defend the TNT championship but he's already booked for All In.
- 41:27Speaker 4: And what we discussed last week, and I think it
- 41:29Speaker 4: was a pretty interesting idea, is making these matches instead
- 41:32Speaker 4: of championship matches, make them eliminator matches. That way, the
- 41:38Speaker 4: the champion can actually lose, not lose their if somebody's
- 41:41Speaker 4: drinking really loud. That way, the champion can lose but
- 41:46Speaker 4: not lose their title and then have to defend against
- 41:50Speaker 4: a person who defeated them down the line after all In.
- 41:55Speaker 3: On paper, that makes sense, but in the in the
- 41:58Speaker 3: real world, it doesn't like what you don't want somebody
- 42:03Speaker 3: losing before a pay per view match, It just it
- 42:06Speaker 3: just it discredits them, even if it's an eliminator.
- 42:10Speaker 4: It's but Barry, when you're going into when you're the
- 42:15Speaker 4: point is is that when you're going into a weeks
- 42:19Speaker 4: before you know, uh, a pay per view, the calm
- 42:23Speaker 4: before the Storm if you will, which is the title
- 42:26Speaker 4: of this episode. Of addition, when you're going into a
- 42:30Speaker 4: you know, into a pay per view, why would you
- 42:33Speaker 4: book a match that you know, the the you know,
- 42:36Speaker 4: the the challenger is not going to win. I mean
- 42:41Speaker 4: I don't know, at least the least. The limited match
- 42:44Speaker 4: puts a little bit of, you know, a sense of doubt.
- 42:47Speaker 3: It too that one of the and they've done this
- 42:50Speaker 3: a little bit before where they indicate when a challenger
- 42:54Speaker 3: has secured a shot at a title at the pay
- 42:57Speaker 3: per view, and like, if that's how you frame it,
- 42:59Speaker 3: like Darb, he has secured a shot at the TNT
- 43:02Speaker 3: title at X show, regardless of who owns it. Okay, fine,
- 43:06Speaker 3: Now the champion has to be a fighting champion to
- 43:08Speaker 3: also continue it. It's almost like the champ is secondary
- 43:13Speaker 3: at that point too, Like the title shot is almost
- 43:15Speaker 3: the most important thing. So there's a way you can
- 43:18Speaker 3: do it if you frame it the right way. But
- 43:20Speaker 3: like I just I don't like having I don't like
- 43:23Speaker 3: having title shots a couple of weeks out from a
- 43:25Speaker 3: show or the champion you know.
- 43:28Speaker 4: Yeah, like I said, you know, when you have a
- 43:30Speaker 4: title shot a couple of weeks before a show. I mean,
- 43:33Speaker 4: it's kind of obvious, especially when the show was booked
- 43:36Speaker 4: beating all In. It takes away the sense of anything
- 43:41Speaker 4: can happen, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, so at
- 43:43Speaker 4: least if you do some kind of eliminator match or
- 43:48Speaker 4: you know, there is a sense of doubt at least
- 43:50Speaker 4: because a loss can happen. I mean it could be
- 43:55Speaker 4: a loss by you know, not a clean win. Put
- 43:59Speaker 4: it that way. Being I mean, we are talking about
- 44:01Speaker 4: Jericho here. I'm just I'm just viewing thoughts.
- 44:04Speaker 9: Yeah, but anyway, does anybody else, anybody else have any
- 44:09Speaker 9: opinions about Kevin Knight and Chris Jericho, because again, we
- 44:15Speaker 9: want to talk about Darby Allen and we want to
- 44:18Speaker 9: talk about Speedball Mike Bailey.
- 44:19Speaker 4: How do they fit into this? I mean, do either
- 44:22Speaker 4: Darby or Speedball Mike Bailey? Uh? Do you see them
- 44:26Speaker 4: contending right after all In? I don't know.
- 44:33Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 44:33Speaker 5: I mean for me, it's like I was expecting Kevin
- 44:36Speaker 5: Knight versus Speedball at all well, I was expecting it
- 44:40Speaker 5: at Redemption, and then when it didn't happen, I'm like, Okay,
- 44:42Speaker 5: they're saving it for all In And then it's like,
- 44:45Speaker 5: oh no, it's going to be Darby in a falls
- 44:48Speaker 5: town anywhere match. I'm like, I don't know where Speedball
- 44:51Speaker 5: fits in. I guess he's just gonna you know, he's
- 44:55Speaker 5: probably gonna end up being part of the casino gol.
- 45:00Speaker 4: Yeah, probably probably.
- 45:03Speaker 3: I mean, right now, you can just plug him in anywhere.
- 45:08Speaker 3: It doesn't really.
- 45:10Speaker 4: Really yeah really, I mean he's going to put on
- 45:12Speaker 4: a good match and people are gonna enjoy it. All right, Well,
- 45:15Speaker 4: let's move on. This is an interesting We talked about
- 45:20Speaker 4: Rebel Heart Dynamite earlier again Reuble Heart Dynamite September ninth.
- 45:27Speaker 4: On again, it's on Wednesday night, September ninth, and there's
- 45:33Speaker 4: been a lot of speculation that Britt Baker is going
- 45:36Speaker 4: to return at that show. Of course, she may not
- 45:41Speaker 4: be wrestling, She may just come out, you know, pushing
- 45:44Speaker 4: the wheelchairs, so to speak. But you guys think that
- 45:50Speaker 4: brit Baker will return on a w Dynamite. Of course,
- 45:54Speaker 4: Also on the graphic, if you're watching this, it does
- 45:57Speaker 4: say that Britt Baker's last aw match it was nearly
- 46:00Speaker 4: twenty one months ago. That was in two days. It
- 46:05Speaker 4: will be exactly twenty one months but also to keep
- 46:10Speaker 4: in mind it later on in September, AW just announced
- 46:15Speaker 4: that they are returning to Pittsburgh for AW Dynamite. So
- 46:20Speaker 4: is that kind of you know, let me put it
- 46:22Speaker 4: this way. Do you guys feel that if Britt Baker
- 46:25Speaker 4: does not show up she is one hundred percent done
- 46:28Speaker 4: with AWS?
- 46:30Speaker 5: Well, I feel like if she doesn't show up to
- 46:32Speaker 5: this one and then she doesn't show up in the
- 46:34Speaker 5: Pittsburgh show, she's absolutely done completely.
- 46:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to argue with that.
- 46:41Speaker 7: I don't see how she can't show up for Rebel.
- 46:44Speaker 7: So I think she'll at least be at the Rebel
- 46:49Speaker 7: Heart show even if we don't ever see her again,
- 46:52Speaker 7: I think she will be there.
- 46:55Speaker 4: Yeah. You know one thing that I can predict with
- 46:58Speaker 4: all honesty during the show, Kelson is going to cry
- 47:01Speaker 4: like a baby because I am a cry baby and
- 47:04Speaker 4: I am not ashamed to admit it. And this is
- 47:07Speaker 4: going to wreck me. I can tell you right now,
- 47:09Speaker 4: from beginning to end, anytime they mentioned Rebel, I'm probably
- 47:12Speaker 4: gonna be bawling. So we will not be live streaming
- 47:16Speaker 4: a live chat you know for that. Put it that way,
- 47:20Speaker 4: because I get, yeah, this is this is.
- 47:29Speaker 5: We're going to see it looks like Helson's typing, but
- 47:31Speaker 5: all you get is a bunch of weird random letters
- 47:34Speaker 5: because of his tears hitting the screen.
- 47:37Speaker 4: And you know when I cry, I cry like a
- 47:39Speaker 4: five year old because I really don't care, but you
- 47:46Speaker 4: know that kind of thing. You know, I'm no, I'm
- 47:52Speaker 4: only choking. But yeah, it is going to be an
- 47:54Speaker 4: emotional night. And you know what, that's good. We needed
- 48:00Speaker 4: no night. It really, it really is. And I and
- 48:03Speaker 4: I hope that it's a success, not only with one
- 48:05Speaker 4: f W doing their show before and after Dynamite, but
- 48:09Speaker 4: the aw Dynamite. It's it's a success. Uh, It's this
- 48:13Speaker 4: really wonderful seeing the outpouring of support. We've been posting
- 48:18Speaker 4: like the ice bus ice bucket challenges, uh that certain
- 48:23Speaker 4: different stars have done on our on our on our
- 48:27Speaker 4: x account, and I am l A a LS dot
- 48:30Speaker 4: org has been you know, upvoting and reposting them. You know, there,
- 48:36Speaker 4: this is something. This is big. This is bigger than wrestling,
- 48:40Speaker 4: and it's gonna be an interesting night. And you know
- 48:42Speaker 4: what I'm wondering, not only is doctor Britt Baker probably
- 48:46Speaker 4: going to be returning, but somebody's got to play the heel.
- 48:49Speaker 4: Somebody's got to be the asshole in this show. You
- 48:53Speaker 4: know who's gonna do that?
- 48:55Speaker 3: I thought it was.
- 48:58Speaker 4: Every show I'm talking about. I'm an asshole anywhere but here. Yeah, no,
- 49:03Speaker 4: I just do it.
- 49:04Speaker 3: I'll be the asshole.
- 49:05Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about. You know what, wrestler is going
- 49:07Speaker 4: to come out and like Britt Baker pushes out, you know, rebel,
- 49:12Speaker 4: somebody's got to come out and cold you know, cold
- 49:14Speaker 4: clock Britt Baker from behind. You know, so who's going to.
- 49:20Speaker 3: Turn into an angle?
- 49:21Speaker 7: Adam Cole Baby.
- 49:23Speaker 4: Adam Cole.
- 49:27Speaker 3: With you for a reason.
- 49:28Speaker 4: Oh my god, he takes her out and then he
- 49:31Speaker 4: does the Adam cold baby anything and that. I am shocked.
- 49:39Speaker 4: I am shocked. Wow what Yeah, yeah, I mean i'd
- 49:47Speaker 4: be Marcus the entertainer said of the chat, Britt Baker
- 49:50Speaker 4: better be there. Yeah, she has even if she doesn't
- 49:53Speaker 4: show up at a w ever again, she has to
- 49:55Speaker 4: be there.
- 49:57Speaker 5: I think we officially answered who's the asshole?
- 50:00Speaker 3: It's it's it's that.
- 50:04Speaker 4: Well, the asshole's gotta be I mean that nailed, that nailed.
- 50:08Speaker 4: Adam Cole Baby come out the double masks where probably
- 50:12Speaker 4: wearing like a dress just to throw us off a
- 50:14Speaker 4: little bit. Goodness, God, not long.
- 50:22Speaker 3: Hair, don't pull it off. Yeah, he can do it.
- 50:26Speaker 5: He can do it. This is a situation where I
- 50:28Speaker 5: don't think we need a bad job.
- 50:32Speaker 4: M but you got it, robber, even like what they had.
- 50:35Speaker 4: Remember when when in Chicago what sky Blue was injured,
- 50:39Speaker 4: she was on on crutches. Didn't Queen amanaa take her out.
- 50:42Speaker 4: It doesn't necessarily even have to be a heel. Yeah,
- 50:46Speaker 4: you know, but it could be anybody.
- 50:49Speaker 5: It's just those are very different situations.
- 50:52Speaker 4: I feel like, Yeah, I mean, I mean, you could
- 50:56Speaker 4: do the ultimate swerve and you know, have Tony Khan
- 50:58Speaker 4: beat the hell out of Baker. Goodness, there's so much thing,
- 51:04Speaker 4: there's so much you can do here. Why somebody just
- 51:07Speaker 4: loves drinking?
- 51:08Speaker 5: Yeah, dude, you got a problem with it?
- 51:10Speaker 4: Yeah you do.
- 51:13Speaker 3: Jesus.
- 51:17Speaker 4: Okay, Well, mute before you drink because it's really loud.
- 51:22Speaker 4: All right, Well let's move on, because by the way,
- 51:26Speaker 4: before we do move on, I don't have a graphic
- 51:28Speaker 4: for this, but I want to talk about Lance Archer
- 51:32Speaker 4: just very briefly appearing. Like last week he was in
- 51:35Speaker 4: a show of Corpus Christie and he did mention he
- 51:38Speaker 4: was in the ring doing a promo. He did mention
- 51:40Speaker 4: that when he signed with AW. He signed with AW
- 51:46Speaker 4: backstage in Corpus Christie, But when he was in the ring,
- 51:50Speaker 4: he was talking about signing with AW, and he did
- 51:52Speaker 4: reveal that he has signed a two year extension with AW.
- 51:58Speaker 4: Lance Archer, congratulations, you're one of the good guys. Really,
- 52:02Speaker 4: I mean, even though he's a heel, he's a good guy, uh,
- 52:08Speaker 4: you know, and so I'm happy for him. I like
- 52:10Speaker 4: seeing people succeed. So we have Lance Archer for two
- 52:13Speaker 4: more years in Ada.
- 52:17Speaker 3: Don Kallas's bodyguard. I don't know why, but it just
- 52:20Speaker 3: fits so perfect.
- 52:22Speaker 5: Of that guy for over twenty years now. Yeah, I
- 52:25Speaker 5: remember when he wrestled at a like local promotion close
- 52:29Speaker 5: to me, like he's freaking awesome.
- 52:33Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's, like I said, he's he's one of
- 52:36Speaker 4: those people. It's weird because he's a heel, but he's
- 52:39Speaker 4: a nice guy. Matter of fact, he was in the
- 52:42Speaker 4: ring he actually said I believe he said shit and
- 52:46Speaker 4: he stopped and so excuse me, you know, I mean
- 52:49Speaker 4: that's the kind of guy he is. But anyway, speaking
- 52:52Speaker 4: of somebody who else, somebody else who I think is
- 52:54Speaker 4: a nice guy. I don't know him, but for some reason,
- 52:57Speaker 4: he just seems that way. Buddy Matthews, he stated in
- 53:01Speaker 4: a video last week. I believe it was that he
- 53:03Speaker 4: has been cleared to return. Now. I don't know if
- 53:05Speaker 4: that means he was cleared by his doctors, which is
- 53:08Speaker 4: different from being cleared by any w's doctors. But Buddy
- 53:13Speaker 4: Matthews is coming back sooner or later. There's potential storylines here.
- 53:18Speaker 4: I mean, how does he get involved in Would you
- 53:20Speaker 4: put him with Bandido and Brody King or against them?
- 53:25Speaker 4: I mean he's been away for eighteen months, so he's
- 53:29Speaker 4: got him, is he What would the storyline be that
- 53:32Speaker 4: he's jealous of Brodido? I don't know this This is
- 53:38Speaker 4: interesting And if the Hounds of Hell do become a
- 53:41Speaker 4: thing somewhat again with bro with Bandid, yeah, with Bandido?
- 53:47Speaker 4: Does Julia Hart play into this as well? I mean
- 53:49Speaker 4: there's all kinds of things that can happen.
- 53:52Speaker 6: What do you guys say, Yeah, finally he's back. When
- 53:56Speaker 6: do you guys think he will be back?
- 53:58Speaker 4: Then that's a very possibility.
- 54:01Speaker 7: No, yeah, that's a good place to put them.
- 54:05Speaker 4: The only other thing that could possibly happen now is
- 54:07Speaker 4: if they had like a before the y'all before all
- 54:10Speaker 4: in if they had you know how they do they
- 54:13Speaker 4: always have like a five by five, five versus five
- 54:17Speaker 4: match or something like that on the prior collision or
- 54:20Speaker 4: the prior dynamite, and he maybe one of the surprise
- 54:23Speaker 4: wrestlers in that you never know, find yourself a partner,
- 54:27Speaker 4: find yourself a fifthm we'll go at it.
- 54:29Speaker 5: So the Gauntlet seems very likely. And you know they've
- 54:33Speaker 5: done returns in their returns and debuts there before. What
- 54:39Speaker 5: I've seen quite a few people mentioned on x and
- 54:44Speaker 5: Reddit and other places are discord is Buddy Matthews could
- 54:51Speaker 5: slot in with the Dogs easy because like the whole
- 54:54Speaker 5: thing with the Dogs is when they first came together,
- 54:58Speaker 5: they were guys who who felt, you know, underappreciated and
- 55:03Speaker 5: like they were angry, they were pissed off, and you
- 55:07Speaker 5: know their motto was bring gold or bring bodies. Buddy
- 55:11Speaker 5: Matthews is the guy that fished that motto to a
- 55:14Speaker 5: freaking team.
- 55:15Speaker 4: You know, there's another possibility here, Malachi Black with Buddy Matthews.
- 55:22Speaker 4: You know it's a possibility. I'm just bringing it up
- 55:25Speaker 4: as a possibility. Some people were saying, you know, they
- 55:28Speaker 4: they wouldn't mind Malachi Black coming back. I mean, look,
- 55:31Speaker 4: it was Malachi Black left and kind of the same
- 55:33Speaker 4: situation that Andrea l Lidolo did. And you know, when
- 55:38Speaker 4: you look at it, that's the honest of God's truth
- 55:40Speaker 4: and people for not only forgave Andrada y l Idolo,
- 55:43Speaker 4: but Andradi LDLo has put himself out there and has
- 55:47Speaker 4: just been absolutely you know, so maybe it's and and
- 55:51Speaker 4: Malachi Black did put out a video last week, the
- 55:54Speaker 4: first video since his release, you know, showing some stuff,
- 55:58Speaker 4: you know, so go watch it. You know, has some
- 56:03Speaker 4: interesting things in it. But anyway, does anybody have anything
- 56:06Speaker 4: to sell else to say about Buddy Matthews?
- 56:07Speaker 5: Well, I can't wait to see him back and see.
- 56:10Speaker 6: What he looks like after eighteen months see him wrest
- 56:15Speaker 6: Well if you if you what.
- 56:17Speaker 3: He's going to look like, that he's going to be
- 56:19Speaker 3: Jack to the gills.
- 56:20Speaker 4: Yeah, go look at his Instagram. I mean, the guy
- 56:23Speaker 4: is just.
- 56:26Speaker 7: He's got a better half too, So who's Jack?
- 56:29Speaker 5: So I'm sure he will.
- 56:31Speaker 4: Be Yeah, I mean the Marcus the Entertainer says, Malatie
- 56:35Speaker 4: Black is a hard no for me. A lot of
- 56:38Speaker 4: people feel that way. Jocelyn wasn't a fan of brit Baker.
- 56:41Speaker 4: If she shows up good, If not, oh well, And
- 56:44Speaker 4: that is also one of the uh, you know, one
- 56:47Speaker 4: of the things that people are saying on Reddit and
- 56:51Speaker 4: Discord and and whatnot.
- 56:53Speaker 7: You know, I feel like I, Jocelyn, I am not
- 56:58Speaker 7: a fan of Brit Baker.
- 56:59Speaker 6: But if she shows up at at the show for Rebel,
- 57:04Speaker 6: I wouldn't be surprised at all.
- 57:06Speaker 4: Yeah, but anyway, that's gonna be our show for tonight.
- 57:11Speaker 4: Got in for the first time in a long time.
- 57:13Speaker 7: What wait, wait, wait, no, no, don't ignore what happened
- 57:20Speaker 7: with Eddie Kingston. I refuse to let you guys ignore that.
- 57:25Speaker 7: Don't ignore Eddie.
- 57:28Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 57:29Speaker 10: As much as you all talk crap about Eddie Kingston,
- 57:36Speaker 10: we need to acknowledge that he won that match.
- 57:40Speaker 4: I didn't see it, so it didn't happen.
- 57:43Speaker 7: Yes, it did. It most certainly did, and he after.
- 57:47Speaker 4: He won, and I could guarantee you that it was
- 57:50Speaker 4: probably a joke match. It was not.
- 57:54Speaker 5: Same.
- 57:55Speaker 7: Same shame for you all not acknowledging Eddie Kingston's I.
- 58:00Speaker 4: Will never acknowledge Eddie Kingston's and I will say this
- 58:05Speaker 4: I am looking forward to his next match. Of course,
- 58:07Speaker 4: we don't know who it is, but I do hope
- 58:10Speaker 4: that he loses and leaves his boots in the middle
- 58:12Speaker 4: of the ring.
- 58:14Speaker 5: That would be beautiful, that about, That would mean the
- 58:19Speaker 5: greatest thing Eddie Kingston has ever done.
- 58:24Speaker 3: One of the most tiresome gags you guys do.
- 58:27Speaker 4: It's just yeah, I mean, I didn't want to bring
- 58:29Speaker 4: in I didn't want to bring up Anny Kingston. I
- 58:31Speaker 4: didn't want to bring up Anny Kingston because I didn't
- 58:32Speaker 4: want to go into the same spot as.
- 58:34Speaker 7: We were before. Fine, but see when he wins, we
- 58:38Speaker 7: don't want to talk about it. Yeah, okay, I see
- 58:42Speaker 7: is we don't want to talk about it exactly.
- 58:46Speaker 4: We don't want to talk about it period.
- 58:49Speaker 2: I see, I see Okay, okay, Jose, conception in the
- 58:54Speaker 2: chat says MGF has to win Men's Gatland.
- 58:58Speaker 4: He just just to over not to. Besides, a lot
- 59:03Speaker 4: of folks wanted MGF versus Will instead, so just to
- 59:07Speaker 4: make fans happy, I feel MGF will win again. And
- 59:11Speaker 4: I'm with you, Jose, I really did want MJF versus Will.
- 59:15Speaker 4: I did not want Kenny versus Will. I think mjfersus
- 59:19Speaker 4: Will is the far better match because both of them
- 59:22Speaker 4: are their future at a company. But I understand why
- 59:25Speaker 4: they went with Kenny. So but anyway, now we will
- 59:29Speaker 4: say goodbye. We will be back of course next Tuesday night,
- 59:34Speaker 4: eight forty five Eastern time. We appreciate everybody you listened
- 59:38Speaker 4: and chatted with us. Be sure to check us out
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- 1:00:09Speaker 4: All right, So for the a W Fan podcast team,
- 1:00:14Speaker 4: this is Kelcey. Good night, everybody, goodbye. Now we do
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: say good night. Eddie Kingston, good night, good night, Eddie Kingston.
- 1:00:24Speaker 4: Good thanks guys. Oh yes, good night, God's just all right,
- 1:00:33Speaker 4: good night.
- 1:00:34Speaker 5: Yeah,