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777 with Nick from Occult Rejects Gematria Part 4 · The Occult Rejects

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  Speaker 1: You see somethings going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: What what's going to happen?
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  Speaker 3: I'll take what it's up everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I hope you're having a wonderful Tuesday. I'm here with
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  Speaker 1: my co host Nick. Nick. Tell them how you do it?
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  Speaker 1: Tell them what you're working on?
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  Speaker 2: What up? What up? What am I working on right now?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: Working on a few things at once, Johannes Kepler. I'm
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  Speaker 4: working on Onto Maya Park still to make the video
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  Speaker 4: that we holded together. And I'm working on that color
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  Speaker 4: thing part two, Part two to the colors and how.
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  Speaker 2: They affect us. And uh, yeah, I guess that's really
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  Speaker 2: about it. Oh, we got we got Friday Friday, I think,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, as long as you can. I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 4: I think you said yes already, me, you and Erros,
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  Speaker 4: at least so far, I'm hoping to get I think
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  Speaker 4: ju I think Jews will be able to join us
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  Speaker 4: to a bunch of us.
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  Speaker 2: Are gonna go over what is that?
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  Speaker 4: It's like twenty eight pages of that Stargate paperwork right there,
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  Speaker 4: was associated with Staraid and the Gateway project. We're actually
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  Speaker 4: gonna get together, and I'm thinking it might actually be
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  Speaker 4: more than one episode. Depends, but we're gonna run through
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  Speaker 4: the pages, read it off, and actually talk about it.
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  Speaker 4: So keep an eye off of that this Friday. That
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  Speaker 4: should be Actually, I really think that's gonna be fun thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be like a good time.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and we're gonna be comparing notes on all of
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  Speaker 1: our schools Gifted and Talented.
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  Speaker 2: Poh yeah, I remember that. Shit.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy the amount of people that participated in that
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  Speaker 1: that is now in the occult circles. I mean, you'd
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  Speaker 1: think like very small number of people get into those programs,
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  Speaker 1: and an even smaller number would get into occultism. And
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  Speaker 1: it's weird, you know.
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  Speaker 4: You know what's funny is that everybody, not everybody, but
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  Speaker 4: so many people I know from podcasting that are into
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  Speaker 4: this stuff have all been in it.
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  Speaker 2: I find that very weird or like we're in it first,
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  Speaker 2: Like I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was actually in it at one point and I
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  Speaker 4: even said this, I didn't like it. I thought it
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  Speaker 4: was fucking boring, actually, and they put me back with
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  Speaker 4: the rest of the people.
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  Speaker 2: I just wasn't enjoying it.
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  Speaker 4: But no, there was. I mean, I think Robbie Marx
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  Speaker 4: was in it. You said you were too right, oh okay,
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  Speaker 4: Teresa is.
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  Speaker 1: Looking at everybody else responding it's like, whoa how is
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  Speaker 1: everybody a part of this thing? And I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: about it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I know a lot of people have had
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  Speaker 4: there was again this all these the gate was one,
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  Speaker 4: and there's all these different names for it. It's I
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  Speaker 4: find it interesting how many people in a cult and
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  Speaker 4: conspiracy podcasting have had that experience.
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  Speaker 2: I wondered, there's something there with that.
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  Speaker 1: There's gotta be I think basically they were let on
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  Speaker 1: to a secret, and so in that sort of frame
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  Speaker 1: of reference, they started looking for other secrets. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I'm coming up with. Who knows what it is, but
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  Speaker 1: we'll find out this Friday. Let's see. So we are
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  Speaker 1: starting back on page nineteen if you guys are following
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  Speaker 1: along with the PDF, page nineteen, which would also be
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  Speaker 1: page thirty four in the PDF.
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  Speaker 2: And this is still the Jamatria part.
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  Speaker 1: So right of the results of the method, we possess
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  Speaker 1: one flawless gem already printed in the Equinox Volume eleven,
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  Speaker 1: page one six through one eighty five, a note on
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  Speaker 1: Genesis by frad Er VH. Frau Ia from this pleasant
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  Speaker 1: Orthodox And so they all lived happily. Ever after view,
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  Speaker 1: let us turn for a moment to the critical aspect.
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  Speaker 1: Let us demolish in turn the Kabbalistic method of exe Jesus,
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  Speaker 1: and then we can discover the true basis upon which
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  Speaker 1: to erect an abiding temple of truth. Number one Jamat
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  Speaker 1: the number seven seven seven affords a good example of
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  Speaker 1: the legitimate and illegitimate deductions to be drawn. It represents
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  Speaker 1: the ach rach Elohim Shayam. One is the spirit of
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  Speaker 1: the living God, and also Olam klipthoth. The world of
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  Speaker 1: shells extrements the demon world. Now it is wrong to
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  Speaker 1: say that this idea of the unity of the divine
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  Speaker 1: spirit is identical with the idea of the muddle chaos,
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  Speaker 1: unless that exalted grade in which one is the mini.
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  Speaker 1: But the compiler of liber seven seven seven was a
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  Speaker 1: great Cobbalist when he thus entitled his book, for he
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  Speaker 1: meant to imply, one is the spirit of the Living God.
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  Speaker 2: I e.
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  Speaker 1: I have in this book unified all the diverse symbols
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  Speaker 1: of the world, and also the world of shells. I eat.
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  Speaker 1: This book is full of mere dead symbols, and do
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  Speaker 1: not mistake them for the living truth. Further, did you
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  Speaker 1: want to throw in there?
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  Speaker 2: No, No, I just thought that was a pretty good
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  Speaker 2: line right there.
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  Speaker 4: One thing I do want to add real quick, I
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  Speaker 4: do uh just fun fact, Tycho Brahe put out a book.
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  Speaker 2: Where he cataloged seven hundred and seventy seven stars.
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  Speaker 1: It was a very important number to the all the
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  Speaker 1: Jewish symbolism. It represents the end, so it would be
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  Speaker 1: the three ends, and I guess the three beginnings. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I guess they could get into that a little bit
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  Speaker 1: further on further. He had an academic reason for his
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  Speaker 1: choice of a number for the tabulation of the book
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  Speaker 1: is from Kether to Malcouth, the course of the flaming sword,
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  Speaker 1: and if this sword be drawn upon the Tree of life,
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  Speaker 1: numeration of the paths which it has passed, which it
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  Speaker 1: pass is, taking Gemmol three as the non existent path
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  Speaker 1: from Bena to Chess said, since it connects Macroposophos and
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  Speaker 1: Microposophos is seven seven seven, so the flaming sword in
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  Speaker 1: the middle would be seven seven seven. To take another example,
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  Speaker 1: it is no mere coincidence that four six three the
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  Speaker 1: staff of Moses is the eber letters. The paths of
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  Speaker 1: the middle pillar no more mere coincidence that twenty six
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  Speaker 1: is one plus six plus nine plus ten the sephro
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  Speaker 1: of the middle pillar. But ought we not to divide
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  Speaker 1: to have some supreme name for four eight nine there
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  Speaker 1: sum the middle pillar perfect. Yet the cepher sepherote is silent.
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  Speaker 1: We only find four eight nine mishlimb giver the avenger
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  Speaker 1: again one one one is a lift the unity, but
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  Speaker 1: also apl think thick darkness and asn sudden death. This
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  Speaker 1: can only be interpreted as meaning the annihilation of the
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  Speaker 1: individual in the unity and the darkness which is the
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  Speaker 1: threshold of the unity. In other words, one must be
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  Speaker 1: an expert in somebody before this simple jamatria has any
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  Speaker 1: proper meaning. Somebody is the meditation practice of annihilating all thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: annihilating all being. How then can it serve a student
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  Speaker 1: in his research? The uninitiated would expect life and light
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  Speaker 1: in the one. Only by experience he can know that
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  Speaker 1: to man, the Godhead must be experienced by those things
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  Speaker 1: which he most fears.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just say, going, you read a lot already?
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  Speaker 1: Sure, sure thing we hear.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we hear.
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  Speaker 4: Purposely avoid dwelling on the mere silliness of many jamatria
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  Speaker 4: correspondences the equality of the clip off of one of
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  Speaker 4: one sign with the intelligence of another. Such misses are
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  Speaker 4: more frequent than such than such hits as a cod
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  Speaker 4: unity thirteen. I don't know what that is, ahbh Love thirteen.
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  Speaker 4: The argument is an The argument is an argument in
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  Speaker 4: a circle. Only an ad dept can understand the Kabbala,
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  Speaker 4: just as in Buddhism, uh sak Saki Sakyamuni said, only
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  Speaker 4: an arahat can understand the Dama. In this light, Indeed,
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  Speaker 4: the Kabbala seems little more than a convenient language for
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  Speaker 4: recording experience.
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  Speaker 2: We many mentioned. We may mention in passing.
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  Speaker 4: That Frida p never acquiesced in this obvious cook of
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  Speaker 4: arguing X equals y plus one.
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  Speaker 2: What's that three dot thing X equals y before?
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  Speaker 1: Therefore, oh yeah, therefore X equals y by assuming that
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  Speaker 1: X should add one to itself for the concealed unity.
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  Speaker 4: Why shouldn't why have a little concealed unity of its own?
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  Speaker 4: That this method should ever have been accepted by any
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  Speaker 4: Cobblists argues a bankruptcy a bankruptcy of ingenuity beyond belief
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  Speaker 4: in all conscious it is easy enough to fake identities
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  Speaker 4: by less obviously card sharping methods.
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  Speaker 2: There's a notoicon.
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  Speaker 4: This one's interesting, and this one is something that I
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  Speaker 4: think me and you have talked about that we think,
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  Speaker 4: we both said we think might be done more often
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  Speaker 4: than not. The absurdity of this method needs little indication.
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  Speaker 4: The most unsophisticated can draw a pity and amusement from
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  Speaker 4: mister Mathers for mister Mathers Jew converted way mister Mathers
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  Speaker 4: Jew converted by the notericons of bearisheth true fiat is
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  Speaker 4: flattus ignus aqua terra fuck that showing the Creator as tetragrammaton,
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  Speaker 4: the synthesis of four elements, showing the eternal fiat as
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  Speaker 4: as the equiliberated, showing the eternal fiat as the equiliberated
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  Speaker 4: powers of nature. But what forbids fescet ignacious, you know,
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  Speaker 4: ignavis anaman, terrey or any other convenient blasphemy such as
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  Speaker 4: Buddha would applaud. Why not take our converted Jew and
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  Speaker 4: restore him to the ghetto with pen roack ab shiel
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  Speaker 4: a hey, or what I'm fucking that up? Thor why
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  Speaker 4: not take the sacred I don't even know loose of
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  Speaker 4: the Christian who thought it meant any of this, it's
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  Speaker 4: another language, and make him a pagan with I don't
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  Speaker 4: know what is that Greek?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what he's doing is he's taking the phrases that
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  Speaker 1: Christians have used and said, oh, that's what that means there,
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  Speaker 1: and then switch you around and then make it mean
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  Speaker 1: something else. He's talking about all these different numbers, making
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  Speaker 1: different words.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this interesting. I find it interesting.
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  Speaker 4: This guy just assumes everybody can read this shit too,
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  Speaker 4: like you know, everybody's like buy a trilingual over here.
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  Speaker 1: He's making he's making all these references that are very
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  Speaker 1: agent like. Why not argue that christ in cursing the fig,
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  Speaker 1: wish to attack Kant's dogma of free will, immortality and God.
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  Speaker 1: So he might actually be making the sign of the
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  Speaker 1: fig there and cursing the fig.
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  Speaker 2: I'll keep going. You don't thinking all right here?
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  Speaker 4: Again, the multiplicity of our methods make our method too
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  Speaker 4: pliable to be reliable.
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  Speaker 2: Should we argue that BBL.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know how to say it was that
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  Speaker 4: I I don't know six BBL equals s H s
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  Speaker 4: HK six twenty by the method of at bash, and
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  Speaker 4: that therefore BBL symbolizes Kether six.
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  Speaker 2: See even Crawley. So the BBL is coming? Why BBL
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  Speaker 2: is confusion? The way?
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  Speaker 4: Why BBL is confusion the very opposite of kether? Why abash?
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  Speaker 4: Why not a bash or ad rath or any other
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  Speaker 4: plausible combinations?
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  Speaker 2: What about?
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  Speaker 4: Uh about the only useful tomorrow is ike Baker?
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  Speaker 2: Interesting? We just had that? Guess no, not too long ago? Yep,
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  Speaker 2: give me what he did get from this? Given the other?
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about the only useful tomorrow is Ike Baker? Given
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  Speaker 2: up of?
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  Speaker 4: In this we do find a suggestive reasoning. For example,
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  Speaker 4: we we find it in the attribution of al a, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: I am you're actually yeah? Oh really? Okay?
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  Speaker 4: Fuck Elohem to the pentagram, which gives what is that
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  Speaker 4: hi pie Yeah? See equinox the number eleven, page one four.
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  Speaker 4: Here we write Elohim the creative deities round the pentagram
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  Speaker 4: and read it reverse, beginning with I guess that would.
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  Speaker 2: Be M and then that's the fucking symbol? Is that
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  Speaker 2: the letter of equilibrium and a.
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  Speaker 1: Team that's lamb. I think it's lambed. Also omega, Yeah, it.
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  Speaker 2: Looked like the alpha and omega symbol or something. The
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  Speaker 2: letter of.
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  Speaker 4: Equilibrium and attain an approximization to pie good enough for
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  Speaker 4: the benighted Hebrews, as if thereby the finite square of
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  Speaker 4: creation was assimilated to the infinite circle of the Creator.
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  Speaker 2: I'll breathe the next up to four. Yes, but why
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  Speaker 2: should not bearisheth? Two two, one, three, one four? Give
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  Speaker 2: say e? The only answer is that if you screw
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  Speaker 2: it around long enough, it perhaps will ye the rational
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  Speaker 2: of zero.
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  Speaker 4: Should we agree with freder p he left the Rationalist
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  Speaker 4: Press Association, and we may present the irregular table of
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  Speaker 4: computations to irregular masons.
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  Speaker 1: Well, isn't it strange how he uh? He refers to
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  Speaker 1: himself in the third person?
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  Speaker 3: Yo?
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  Speaker 2: I At what point I was thinking, I'm like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: is this like?
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  Speaker 4: I'm like thinking on my head, I'm like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think this is what's his face talking anymore?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 4: It could be, but no, but I was because I
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  Speaker 4: was like thinking, I'm like, yo, because if it's not,
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  Speaker 4: why is this dude talking about like yeah, like you
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  Speaker 4: just said it.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, this is yeah. I was a little confused.
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  Speaker 1: He's reading it as if he's reading his own work
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  Speaker 1: in seven seven seven and then commenting on it from
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  Speaker 1: the third person as if we already know what he's thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? Like, that's that's the level of
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  Speaker 1: I think perspective we're looking at here, which is very strange.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a triple perspective.
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  Speaker 4: Oh real quick, just to uh something coming up. I
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  Speaker 4: kind of remember because Ike Baker. I think January third,
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  Speaker 4: we got Ike Baker and Jamie Paul Lamb both coming
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  Speaker 4: on at the same time. It's gonna be fucking insane
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  Speaker 4: talking about astrology for the ages. And uh, I could
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  Speaker 4: be wrong, but I think Jamie Lamb might be like
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  Speaker 4: one of the highest publicly highest I didn't even know
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  Speaker 4: I had him on the sho already one of the
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  Speaker 4: publicly highest uh.
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  Speaker 5: Golden Dorn dudes, highest initiated huh oh publicly admitting Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, fuck, I had no idea, you know,
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  Speaker 5: because I like Baker's in that. I think I like
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  Speaker 5: Baggers in the Golden Dome too, But yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 5: should be definitely an interesting Uh. They're both friends with
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  Speaker 5: each other, which is another reason I had them both
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  Speaker 5: come on. So yeah, yeah, you go right, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: he's like ooh, he's like fucking that dude's my boy.
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  Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, I'm gonna see if
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  Speaker 4: I can get Jamie back on. It's been a minute
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  Speaker 4: and uh yeah, I made it happen, so it should
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  Speaker 4: be a banker. I think having those both on and
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  Speaker 4: ship with each other on topics they both passionate about.
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  Speaker 2: So looking forward to.
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  Speaker 1: That awesome, awesome. Yeah. Unfortunately I haven't been keeping up
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  Speaker 1: with the comments, but thank you guys for joining us.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yo, I haven't even looked at them.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm going to take over a yeah from.
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  Speaker 2: Four, yeah, yeah, from four my bead.
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  Speaker 1: All right. To the less important methods, we may apply
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  Speaker 1: the same criticism we may glance at passing at the
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  Speaker 1: yetsouretic tarot or the yets eurritic tarot, and significatory methods
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  Speaker 1: of investigating any word, but thorough but through frodd er
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  Speaker 1: P was expert enough in these methods. They are hardly
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  Speaker 1: pertinent to the pure numerus num numerical Kabbala, and therefore
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  Speaker 1: deal gently with them. The attributions are given in seven
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  Speaker 1: seven seven. Thus ali is that yeah in the yseratic
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  Speaker 1: word is air by taro the fool and by signification
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  Speaker 1: in ox. Right, So that's the figure itself. The olive
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  Speaker 1: is an ox. Thus we have the famous and the
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  Speaker 1: famous I n r ide none rash yode, and those
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  Speaker 1: are the Virgin, the evil, serpent, the sun, suggesting the
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  Speaker 1: story of Genesis and of the Gospel. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: actually ways that they have converted people by this method
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  Speaker 1: to Christianity, by showing them I n our, showing them
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of these correspondences. This was a method
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  Speaker 1: in the Middle Ages of converting people. They actually talk
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  Speaker 1: about it a lot in the alchemical stuff. The initials
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  Speaker 1: of the Egyptian names isis, Apotheus, Osiris, which correspond in
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  Speaker 1: their turn with the ineffable name Eaoh. Thus we say
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  Speaker 1: that by the ineffable is concealed and revealed by the birth, death,
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  Speaker 1: and resurrection of Christ. And further the signs of mourning
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  Speaker 1: of the Mother, triumph of the destroyer, and rising of
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  Speaker 1: the sun give by shape the letters l U X,
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  Speaker 1: which the letters are given again concealed and revealed by
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  Speaker 1: the cross l v X the light of the cross. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what do you think is significant significant about the change
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  Speaker 1: in thought style? There? Like?
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  Speaker 2: What way like comparing it to what like?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he's got the L and the V on on
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  Speaker 1: their own letter. And then it looks like he mirrors
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  Speaker 1: the V to produce the X.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and the X goes.
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  Speaker 1: Between the two lines, right, So I guess between the
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  Speaker 1: overworld and the underworld or something that would be about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, redemption and coming up from the grave. Further
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  Speaker 1: examples would be found in a note on Genesis. One
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  Speaker 1: of the most famous is mine teckel Oufarsin of Daniel
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  Speaker 1: the most the imaginary prophet who lived under Balshazzar, the
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  Speaker 1: imaginary king. Interesting, so he's acknowledging Daniel Chapter eleven. I
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  Speaker 1: guess m n A the hanged man death, the fool
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  Speaker 1: sacrificed to death by thy folly th h k L
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  Speaker 1: the universe the wheel of fortune equals just or justice
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  Speaker 1: equals the Kingdom's fortune in the balance. So I guess
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  Speaker 1: thekel and paresh the blasted tower the sun the last
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  Speaker 1: judgment equals ruined. Is thy glory and finished. But we
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  Speaker 1: cannot help thinking that this Exe Jesus must have been
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  Speaker 1: very hard work. We could more easily read m NA
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  Speaker 1: to sacrifice to death is folly th h k L.
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  Speaker 1: Thy kingdom shall be fortune, for it is just. And
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  Speaker 1: then the last would be p R s H the
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  Speaker 1: tower of thy glory shall endure into the last day.
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  Speaker 1: There that didn't take two minutes, and Belshazzar would have
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: exalted us above Daniel, the imaginary king, and the imaginary prophet.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Thing Similarly, al God may be interpreted. His folly is justice.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You have to see those la hats upside down, look
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like al.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: They do. Yeah, but AL doesn't that also mean from
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: in Arabic liber al bel legas like Arabic and al
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: is like.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: From could be yeah, Oh, I'm not sure.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: It's interesting AL and L have well again like these Uh.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: These vowel sounds in Hebrew are kind of interchangeable because
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it was originally just a consonant language.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it means the in Arabic the that's.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: That's right, that's what it is. Or by Jetsa, the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: air is his balance. As it is written, God made
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: the firmament and divided the waters which are under the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: firmament from the waters which were above the firm it,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: or by meaning the ox and the goad. He is
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: both matter and motion, interesting ox and the goad. Here
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: we hear append a sketch ms by Fradi p Giving
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: his explanation by tarot et cetera. Of the letters of
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the alphabet spelled in full mystic readings of the letters
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of the alphabet now and they're changing fought again. Yeah right,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: I think it could be different authors. It could be
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: different authors, you know, because he's saying a sketch m
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: asked by Fredi p again, like he's saying by himself,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: as if we should know who that is. Strange. I
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: guess he didn't like saying the word me. That could
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: be it, right, because Zipy have that.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Yo he I mean, I mean maybe you're onto something. Yes,
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: you're probably gonna say exact what I'm gonna say right now.
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: He was on to like pick a word and try
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: not to have a fucking use it again, right.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if.
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: He had any suggestions, but like suggestions that I would
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: he is, like, even use a rumba band and fucking
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: snap it if you fucking catch yourself doing it, So
• 23:22
  Speaker 4: people were fucking deranged and would actually, you know, do
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: all the ship But uh, yeah, I have heard of that,
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: So maybe he was actually doing that at this time.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: Imagine you're writing a book and you're like counting that too,
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: Like I didn't even write the letter.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I mean the word. Oh that could be a tough one, right.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: The whole purpose is to expand your discipline and uh,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: your mind and how you think about things. But he would.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: In book four, it says slash yourself on the on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: the hand or something.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: I forget where he said, but uh he was. He
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: was a fan of using razor blades to enforce the
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: discipline on himself.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Actually goes into the the what's his name, the guy
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: who was into the kids. What was his name? You
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: remember what I'm talking about, the pizza gate.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Oh right, we don't even know. We should say his names. Yeah, right,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I'll phone whatever. His fucking dave.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're brothers who were working chief of staff. Oh Podesta, yeah, Podesta.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: So Podesta held his hand up and he was slashed
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: exactly where Crowley was talking about doing that to yourself.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: Oh and he was the one who isn't he the
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: one who he sent in an email for a th
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: only make favor.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Right, And he was holding up in the picture of
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: fourteen the and the fish, right, So he's into Thalima,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: He's into these symbols. He had fourteen in fish on
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: his hands, and that's how you could tell the scar
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and that would alon with uh what Crowley was talking
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: about book four. So maybe there was some more gematria
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: to that situation. But how would you be able to tell? Well,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I guess by going through seven seven seven we might
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: find something about that. Look for fourteen mid fish everybody,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: all right, so what's that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: This's gonna be a motherfucker if you try to read
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: all that Hebrew.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Well we could just read the English words.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ALP.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: Right, then if you if you, if you don't mind
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: me doing that, I'll take OVA. I don't want you
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: to have to read you just read a lot, dude. Yeah,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: I just wasn't sure how you wanted to do this,
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: all right, So yeah, it goes mystic readings of the
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: letters of the alphabet ALP or ALP. Folly's doom is ruined.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: Then B I guess is b I t H bit bitch?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: You know the Juggler, the juggler with the secret of
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: the universe m G M L Gimel the Holy Guardian
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Angel is attained by self sacrifice and equilibrium. Then you
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: have I think it's Dallas D the gate of the
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: equilibrium of the universe. Note d the highest reciprocal path.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: There you got HH. The mother is the daughter, and
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: the daughter is the mother.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: They have VV. The son is but the son s
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: o N.
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: These two letters show the true doctrine of initiation as
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: given in Libra four eighteen, opposed to Protestant exoterroriism. He
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: got zin I like the zagnules of Zin. The answer
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: of the oracles is always death. All right, Then there's
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: a Chith, the chariot of the secret of the universe.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: There's Tith she who rules the secret force of the universe.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Iv D. The secret of the Gate of Initiation KP
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: in the Whirlings is war.
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: Jus might be lamented l MD by equilibrium and self sacrifice.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: The gate no no i am.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: The secret is hidden between the waters that are above
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: and the waters that are beneath symbol the art containing
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the secret of life born upon the bosom of the
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: deluge beneath the clouds ENVM and the end initiation is
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: guarded on both sides by death SMK self control and
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: self sacrifice governed the wheel.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: See what are they talking about? Self sacrifice is actually
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: like sacrificing yourself.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I think in Crawley's context, he would be talking
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: about dedication and the time spent like he was. He
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: was a literalist when it came to self sacrifice. The
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: time you spent, the blood you spent, all of that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: stuff is else sacrifice.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: And then, well, the reason I'm saying that is because
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: we've even mentioned death a few times. And then again
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: in the next line O I N the secret of
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: generation is death. Like maybe maybe he's trying to tell
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: you that there's fucking death involved.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: pH he was a big fan of going over the
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: barrier again. Yeah, he's talking about the gateway, the balance
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: of the universe.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: And then you have pH the fortress of the most
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: high note, p the lowest reciprocal path. And then t
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: Z d I Z in the star is the gate
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: of the sanctuary. Q VP illusionary is the initiation of disorder. Disorder.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: You have a r I s H was interesting, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: he had Rush liber rash Ri s H in the
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: sun Osiris is the secret of the spirit. And for
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: people who don't know Rush, his liber Rush was actually
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: prayers to the sun four times a day.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: Then you have Shint. Resurrection is hidden in death TV.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: The universe is the hexagram. One thing I just want
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to throw out there and like this is like fucking
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: a hot topic or maybe that anymore. But some people
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: might take like, I don't know, like it's still stupid
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: about it. George Floyd, I do think that whole situation
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: was a total occult symbolism, and I do question and
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get real specific, ye, but if
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: you happen to watch the video, it's more of his
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: shin on his.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Neck than his knee.
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: And I've even wondered if that was something to go
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: along with that, you know what, the guy who's got
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: his hand in his pocket, the whole fucking thing, you know,
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: it's just a lot of weird shit, you know, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: the plus the tattoo and all the fucking, I don't know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: very weird just to throw that.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: How many times did they tell you to bow in
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: these ceremonies?
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: Oh that I was in the oto with or in this.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: All of them, All of these different initiations require some
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: sort of bow. Like you look at the Freemasons. You've
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: got a bow, that's what you got the blindfold on
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: and the thing against your neck. It's all about being
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: down on your knees.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, nice, And we built it at the same time.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: All right, all right over that truly there is no
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: end to this wondrous science. And when the skeptic sneers,
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: with all these methods, one ought to be able to
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: make everything out of nothing.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: That's funny. I was just saying that to you earlier.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: I was like, when people use twenty siphons at a time,
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you're gonna fucking find something. But you know, maybe the
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: cabalist smiles back to sublime retort. With these methods, one
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: did make everything out of nothing.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: To the imaginary.
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Besides these, there is still one more method, a method
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: of some little importance to students of the siphra.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Does northa I don't even know. Namely, the analogy is
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: drawn from the shapes of letters. See I have thought
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that myself too. These are often interesting enough. What the
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: fuck letter is that?
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: That's a I think?
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Olah, for example, is a between whatever the
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: fuck those two little things are making twenty six.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Ain and yod Yeah, thus fuck.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know whatever that those things are now my
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: life twenty six equals.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: That's your hay about heart. They spell it backwards.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, that's right. Yeah equals aliph one therefore
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: Jehovah is one.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: But it would be as pertinent to continue twenty six
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: equals two times thirteen, and thirteen equals a cod and one,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: and therefore Jehovah is two. Then this is an absurdity, yes,
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: but it is also an arcade. Yes, but it's also
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: an arcanum.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. That's the name of like Baker's Yeah, this
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: guy was me bigg into Nobles. I gotta bust this
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: bulls about this.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was getting them on my show. He was
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: asking like after He's like, oh, I've got to like
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: after three o'clock. I was like, you know, because I
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: know he's a Mason too. I was like, all right,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: we'll do it at three thirty. To keep to thirty
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: three for you was a learning.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: You know what you can do to fuck with him?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: You take you take all of Crowley's letters, right, you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: take all of his little letter combination code that we
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: just went through, write those down, and then when he
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: says anything with those letters in combinations.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I went down and the guys very small motherfuckers.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Won't I'm not you know, I'm not actually I'm not
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: hitting on him. I just you know, wouldn't doubt it. Uh,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: how wonderful is the kabala? How great is its secret?
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: How great is its security from the profane? How splendid
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: its secrets to the initiate?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Verily and amen?
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: Yet here we are at the old dilemma that one
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: must know truth before one can, really I want, before
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: one can rely upon.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: The Kabbalah to show truth. That's interesting.
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: That's like when I say, I think at tongs you
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: need to have a magical experience, actually understand everything.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Well, ortistand more. Not everything, but more.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Like the immortal burglar. Bill wouldn't hurt a baby. He's
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: a pal as you can trust. He's all right when
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: you're no.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I'm. He's all right when you're no. I'm. He's all
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: right when you're known. I'm, but you've got to know
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I'm fussed. Like I literally had no idea what the
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: fuck that just said?
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Have no clue.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: He's all right when y e r no, I'm, but
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: you've got to know I'm fussed. I guess maybe I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: just saying it wrong. He's all right when you're.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Alright. I'm just saying it. Retaught it, but it still
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: makes no sense.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: So those who have committed themselves to academic study of
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: its mysteries, have found but a dry stick. Those who
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: have understood favored of God have found therein Aaron's rod
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: that budded the staff of life itself. Yeah, the venerable
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: linglam of Mahasiva. It is for us to trace the researchers,
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the researchers of Fred or p in the Kabbalah, to
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: show how from this storehouse of child's puzzles, of contradictions
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: and and incongruities, of paradoxes and trivialities, he discovered the
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: very canon of truth, the authentic key of the temple,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: the word of that mighty combination which unlocks the treasure
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: chamber of the King. And this following is the manuscript
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: which he has left for our instruction. Actually, if you
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: want me, we could leave it there before we go
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: into the next ship.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, hell yeah. He talked himself up really good.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Like I pretty much sucked his own
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: dick right there at the end.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So we're on page forty three.
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: Oh we write that down page forty three. Uh, tell
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: you the truth of the most part too. I mean,
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: maybe I might jinx myself here, But except for some stuff,
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: I think going forward, at least for me, uh, it
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: should be ten times easier to pronounce it. It'll make more
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: sense as we go across the fucking chart. I think,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: you know so.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, I think what he's doing here is he's
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: dropped all the keys in the beginning part of the book.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: I think there's so much fucking crazy, deep shit in there.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I would even wonder if some of it, like the
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: shit that doesn't sound like it makes sense, is that cipher?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Right, That's what I'm saying. So he's dropped all the
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: information that you can use to decode the rest of
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: the book. And so now he's getting into it. So
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: now these are the ciphers. He was talking about the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: rod of Aaron. He was talking about the Shiva's lingom, right,
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and he's equating these two things as the same thing.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: And so he's obviously making sort of a reference to
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: like the number one or something like that. Anyways, I see,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I see different codes that he could be alluding to.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: But it's interesting.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but some of it.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: It's it's not supposed to make sense because it's got
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: a different meaning that you know, he's trying to him
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: fist into a single paragraph. But anyways, that was fun.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Heh yeah, yeah it was.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: Any last thoughts, I'm trying to think of anything else
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: to promote for the show or anything coming up. Oh yeah,
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: I don't exactly. I'll mention it now. It's so fucking
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: oh wait, maybe I do have it. Yeah, I got
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: the yeadres. Yeah, January thirty first, the Occult Rejects.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: We'll have a table at another event.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: We had Natalie Schmerman on a few times twice, and
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: the second time she came on, she was telling us
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: about a movie that they filmed. Whatever, They went out,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: did investigations and they turned it into a movie. It
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: sounded pretty fucking interesting and the booths was juapidh shit,
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: So I was like, fuck it.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: But it's in Alabama. So January thirty first, at eight
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: fifty seven Main Street. I couldn't tell you where the
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: fuck that is. That's shit my bead.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: When I get more information, I will put it in
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: the show notes.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's.
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: Gonna be called The Vanished para con En premiere. So
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: The Vanished is the movie. There's gonna be a if
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: you go there, I think you do get to see
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: the movie like they're going to show the movie and
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: their speakers, so it should be rather interesting.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I think I could be wrong. I haven't looked.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I haven't even looked at the speaker lineup, but I'm
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: assuming if Jessica Jessica Jones we've also had on the show,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: is also in.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: That movie, I would assume Shaky there as well.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: So I know some people are really into her, Jessica Jones,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: the cryptid Huntress, so you will have her and Natalie
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Smearman that I know of so far that will be there,
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: and I think they will also have paranormal speakers as well,
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: so it's not all CRYPTI so, uh yeah, I figured
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: i'd go, you know, show support and get a table
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: so fanmi feels like showing up check it out. I
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: think the tickets are like literally like under twenty dollars too.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yes, all right, well guys, if you if you don't remember,
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: go back and watch our last interview with Natalie Smaerman.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I was bugged out.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Actually it was wild what she was saying. It is
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: in this movie, So I can't wait to see it myself.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I know that's what I was like.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I'll just a great job yeah, yeah, definitely absolutely. Well,
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: all right guys, uh, we'll see you later. Oh. Also,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: send your emails at the weird, strange, Occult Things that
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: have happened to you to me at Healthless gharant Podcast
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: at gmail dot com and we will read those Thursdays.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Don't forget about that. Thank you flower, and we'll see
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: you again next time.
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Later