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BONUS: South Dakota State Meet featuring Casey Shade from Sioux Falls Roosevelt HS · The Gill Athletics Track and Field Connections Podcast

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  So let's get started right now. All right here today as we're
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  continuing on through the country, we're in South Dakota
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  And that's what we're going to do today.
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  Help me welcome from Sioux Falls Roosevelt High School Coach
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  Casey Shade Casey. How are you today, Sir?
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  Hey, I'm good. It's an honor to be representing
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  South Dakota in this. So yeah.
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  So my name is Casey Shade and I coach at Sioux Falls Roosevelt.
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  This is my 10th year in coaching and my third year as the as the
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  head coach. I also do a program there called
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  the School Speed. We just work with different
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  programs and everything like that but.
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  Before that, I was at the University of South Dakota and
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  actually went through South Dakota as an athlete, too, at
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  Sioux Falls, Washington. So I'm excited to talk about
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  this stuff today. That's awesome, man.
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  What a great school and what a great state.
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  And sounds like we got the right guy.
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  You're you're South Dakota through and through here.
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  Heck yeah. Heck yeah.
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  I love it. All right, well, Casey, thank
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  you so much, man. You know, I'm just so grateful
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  this bonus series that we're doing doesn't happen if I don't
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  have 51 servant leaders volunteering.
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  So just so grateful. Just want to say thank you so
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  much for for being here and helping us schooling us on South
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  Dakota outdoor track and field. Thank you.
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  It's an honor, All right. So some states, and we're
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  learning not many, but some states will have a separate
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  private school organization and separate private school state
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  meet and a separate one for public.
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  Most common, we're finding out everybody just is battling
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  together towards a state meet title.
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  What are we doing in South Dakota for public and private
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  schools? We're we're all together.
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  So I think the private, the private school would be really,
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  really small if they decided to separate.
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  If they were to do that, but Nope, we're we're all together.
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  Doesn't matter if you're public or private.
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  It's more just the, the size of enrollment that you have.
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  Perfect. Yep, that's the most common
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  we're finding. So let's move on to how we
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  divide things up there in South Dakota, typically by enrollment
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  as you mentioned, how many classes or divisions and what
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  what do we call them? So we have three classes, so our
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  smallest class is a Class B. And then we have Class A and my
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  school like Sioux Falls Roosevelt is Class AA, those
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  higher enrollment classes. And that that's really what it's
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  determined by is enrollment depending where you're at.
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  So you know our smaller towns in South Dakota pretty frequent,
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  you know our Class B type of schools.
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  Those class AS are kind of those smaller towns that are bigger
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  towns like Sioux Falls, the different schools we have,
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  Yankton Pier, Rapid City, We're all in the AA.
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  I'm always fascinated, You know, it seems pretty standard to go
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  A, AA, AAA, here we have B. And I was like, where are you
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  going to go from there, man? Because, you know, you can't go
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  C and if you go A, that means only two.
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  So BA and AA. It's just always interesting how
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  we call these things, you know? Oh.
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  I feel confused. When you look at our football,
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  0. Sure.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.
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  OK, Well, let's talk about. So we have three state
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  championships, right? So three boys teams are working
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  to earn a state title and three girls teams are going to work
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  towards a state title. So how do we get there?
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  All around the country, we call them divisionals, areas,
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  regional sectionals, all these different names.
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  What's the first round in South Dakota called?
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  OK. So we actually do not have any
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  more regional meets or any of that.
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  So AA, we never really have before.
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  It used to be an auto standard to get you in, which is like the
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  average 8th place time of last so many state meets And there
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  was a provisional. The other schools could get an
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  auto, the B&A and then they would have their regional meets.
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  But now we've just gone the top 24 entries.
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  So it's not the top 24 marks of the the season, it's the top 24
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  marks that are entered and we use athletic.net for all that
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  and you can have a maximum of three per school.
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  And then you can have one relay at the AA level.
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  We don't have 2014 so we automatically get a relay in.
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  But for those B and and AS they got to be in that top 24 to get
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  their relays in and everything like that.
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  So you're running your entire outdoor season schedule and
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  we're we're accumulating the A descending order list and then
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  presumably at some point whether it's a week before stayed or two
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  weeks, we have to declare and the top 24 declarations get into
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  the 100, the shot put the pole vault etcetera.
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  And it's it's been really good, 'cause we did have some years
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  where at least at the AA level, we noticed this, where where
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  kids wouldn't reach that provisional mark and then we
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  would have like the shot put would have 12 kids in it.
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  And so this top 24 has just really cleaned it up for
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  everybody. And it gets our it really gets
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  the best athletes competing. Not to say those other classes
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  with the regional meet, but you would get some kids in a region
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  that would just be at a disadvantage.
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  If they had a strong region but now we're we're assembling the
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  top 24 field of who's ready to rock'n'roll and go out and
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  compete. Yeah, we have a last chance meet
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  usually the Thursday before the state meet and that gets really
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  interesting because that top 24 can really you can shift.
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  So you can you can be at a kid like in 100, especially in the
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  200 and even the 800 a lot because a lot of those kids in
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  the 16 and 32 are dropping down around the eight.
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  We see some drastic change. In our rankings and everything
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  like that. But it's been pretty cool
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  because we can have a kid in the 400 that's ranked like 50th and
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  with our relays and everything can jump up and and they get in
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  and get that opportunity. We have a couple of states that
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  do this descending order list. Some states are doing like to to
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  to get on that list it has to be in certain meats because of you
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  know you talk talk about wind gauge and you know automatic
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  timing and such like that does South Dakota it's any meet can
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  get on that list or do we have certain qualifying meets.
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  Mostly it just, well, it just has to be a sanction meet.
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  So a South Dakota sanction meet or we can be at a sanction meet
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  outside of our state. In South Dakota, our springs are
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  pretty brutal and so we like to chase warmer weather.
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  We'll head down to Nebraska quite often.
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  We go down there three times to get some warmer weathers or
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  weather meets. It's got to be a 400 meter
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  track, that type of stuff. We have gravitated to having to
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  have automatic timing which has been really nice.
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  It's more of just the argument of consistency, which I think is
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  good especially in the 100 and 200 where it's it's not to say
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  the the guy that works at the bank coming to hand held the one
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  me you know and we got 30 mile per hour tailwind.
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  It just makes it consistent all around.
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  So then when we get to those rankings, it's, it's as fair as
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  it possibly can be. I feel like we're not going to
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  get into it, but I feel like there's a story of somebody that
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  came from the bank to the time one of your meets once and
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  you're like never again bank, man.
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  We're not not having that again. It was always if you went to
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  this certain meet you'd come out with APR, so it was somewhat
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  beneficial when we go to it, but.
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  Yeah. Well I love that you go to
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  Nebraska to chase warm weather by the way that says a lot about
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  South Dakota Springs. I I think it says enough.
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  Well let's get into what kind of bridge towards the state meet
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  itself. But you mentioned this last
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  chance meet so this will bridges into the state meet.
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  You said this last chance meet is on like Thursday.
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  So talk to us how that fits into when is the state meet.
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  Is it always in the same venue? Do all three classes have their
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  state meet the same place? How many days is the state meet?
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  Kind of bridge that last chance into state meet.
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  Yep. So we have that last chance on a
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  Thursday, and then our entries are declared that Saturday.
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  And then it's always that last week of May is when we have it
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  over the holiday. I was afraid your last chance
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  meet was on Thursday and the state meet started Friday.
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  That OK, so there is a week. OK, that's where I was really
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  kind of like bridge that 'cause that seems we have that crazy.
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  Get it? OK, now let's go to the state
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  meet. Yep.
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  So the state meet now, this will be our third year of doing this.
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  We have shifted to a three day state meet.
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  All classes are together at the same venue.
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  We're in Sioux Falls at Howard Wood Field.
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  Yep, there used to be a rotation of two years at in Sioux Falls
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  at Howard Wood with one year at Rapid.
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  Currently with all the classes together, they're trying to
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  figure out if we can make the rapid.
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  Track area work, the parking and everything gets pretty chaotic.
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  It used to be we used to have a two day meet and our classes
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  would be separated on day one. So B would be like a Howard
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  Wood, Class A would be in Lenox, class AA would be in Brandon for
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  the first day and then we all come together for like the
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  Sprint finals and the other distance races and everything
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  like that on Saturday. But.
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  But I'll be honest, it's been a really, really cool experience
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  that we've shifted to a three day because we've seen, you
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  know, you get to see all the best track athletes in our state
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  all in one spot and the stands are just packed full.
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  And so the atmosphere is really cool and and and it's just a
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  great event and the first day I walked in I didn't know what we
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  were going to expect. It was my first year head
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  coaching too. And that Thursday, I was like,
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  wow. Like, typically it's low key.
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  You come in, but now it's just like, wow, the buzz is here.
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  So it's kind of just a real cool deal to have everybody together.
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  I find it interesting how you used to do it, that you'd be all
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  in your separate sites for the Friday and then come to get
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  that's. I have not heard that.
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  That's interesting. Now we're in a three day single
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  venue state meet. When you say 3 day, do you mean
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  like is Class B doing all of theirs?
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  We're given a team title at the end of Thursday night and Friday
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  night. Is Class A and Saturday's class
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  AA? Or are we working towards all
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  the prelims and such and maybe some finals, but on Saturday all
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  three or all six state championships are given out?
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  Yep. So it's all finalized with
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  everybody on Saturday. So we external events, so a lot
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  of our events on the first day are like. 100 hundred prelims, 4
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  by 1 prelims. The 110 hurdle, 100 prelims.
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  We do the four by eight, we do a Sprint medley, that type of
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  stuff, and gravitate it. It's been nice because now we
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  spread it, especially as the the old middle distance runner and
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  me who did the 48 double and the four by eight 4x4.
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  You're not so loaded on day one. It allows those kids to spread
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  out. It was really cool, 'cause we
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  just had Simeon Birnbaum come out of our state and.
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  I felt like it really highlighted one of the best
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  athletes in the country to have that three day meet and to
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  spread out his workload of events as well.
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  I like the I like 3 days, you know, we obviously do it in two
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  days depending on how many classes, but I really like the
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  championship Saturday. Everybody wins there.
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  You know we all have 4 by fours at the end and we give out all
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  these team trophies instead of like you know, Class A wins it
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  on Thursday and that's great because it's still important.
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  But I like the all team titles are winning on one day.
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  That's really cool you guys. Very cool.
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  You know, we we definitely know this that track and field is the
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  most inclusive sport. Tall, short, big, small.
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  There's some place on track and field for you to achieve
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  success. We're learning that a lot of
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  states are adding some kind of adaptive, unified wheelchair
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  events to their state meet. Anything like that going on in
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  South Dakota right now? Nothing currently in South
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  Dakota at our state meet situation, but the unified stuff
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  is really taking off at our Dakota Relays, which is the big
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  invite that like North Dakota schools come down to, South
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  Dakota schools come down to we've added a unified 4 by 1.
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  We have Special Olympics 100 and we have, we have, we're getting
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  wheelchair races too, depending if there's athletes that are
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  interested. When we actually go down to
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  Nebraska at Roosevelt, we've done a great job with our
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  unified program with basketball and we're starting to do it with
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  our track program a lot as we go down to Nebraska and participate
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  in their unified divisions at their meets.
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  So I think it's something that's coming and teams are building
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  more interest in it. It was the first year we did it
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  at our Dakota Relays. We participated.
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  Von Home participated in it. So I think it's something that's
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  coming and I could see in the future here being added to it as
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  well, very cool. And I've been to the Dakota
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  Relays a couple of times. That's a, that's a meet, that's
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  a facility, I love that place and and boy it is Dakota.
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  I mean that's a, you know, that's very a lot of pride right
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  there in the Dakota Relays for that meet.
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  That's awesome. So you have, you know, because
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  we have three classes, we have 3/4 by 1 champions and three
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  girls 4 by 1 champions. Some states, whether it's
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  officially or unofficially, like maybe throughout coaches
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  association we'll do a meet of champions where we gather the
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  the state champions from each event and maybe second or third
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  places and we air quotes here, Find the true state champion in
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  each event, Anything like that. So no real meet it people have
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  tried. It's really never taken off.
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  But what we do is gold medal winner of all classes, so once.
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  Our order goes B and then A and then AA of our events.
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  So like let's say it is the 100. B runs, A runs, AA runs after AA
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  is ran. Then they'll reward the gold
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  medal go of all classes goes to this person.
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  So maybe somebody in Class B ran 10/8 in the 100 and that was the
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  fastest day at that time. They're the all around gold
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  medal winner and that's for relays, field events, everybody.
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  So that's pretty cool. Way cool.
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  Especially I always think it gets really cool at like the
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  1600 time on the final day on a Saturday where it's all the
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  distance kids is usually last event.
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  And I feel like Class B sets that bar and now Class A is like
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  and now I got to run faster than the Class AA is like no way I
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  want to. I'm going to, I'm going to win
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  it. But I want to get that gold
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  medal around my neck too, you know?
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  We started this series to create conversation amongst different
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  States and state associations, create empathy amongst States
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  and intrastate as well. That is super.
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  We've not heard that. That is really cool.
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  So they give, so you're a a Class A state champion shot put.
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  But then they'll take those three and say, OK, well you get
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  the the the bigger gold, I don't know, but yeah, they all get
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  their gold medal, but they get a a special like you are the state
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  champion 'cause you threw farther than anybody else.
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  That's yeah, I can remember back in even and when I ran a high
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  school, we won the four by eight my senior year and it was kind
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  of a bummer because we were separated.
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  But we pay attention to the other sites and see who had the
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  faster times. So we rewarded the gold medal
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  and they would announce those when we had the separate sites
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  before on the final Saturday when we're all together.
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  But now they can just do it right away, which makes it even
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  cooler. Do they have an an?
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  He keeps saying gold medal, but you know the the winner of that
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  hundred also wins the gold medal first place.
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  Is there a special name for this award or just is it a bigger
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  award? Like a bigger like a Flavor flav
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  clock trophy or something? It's a bit, it's a bit bigger,
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  but it's just the gold medal of all classes.
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  So they get their gold medal for winning B or A or AA, and then
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  they get the gold medal of all classes.
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  So really, they'll walk. If they're that person they walk
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  off the stand with with two gold medals.
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  Hey, that's cool because media champs are extremely hard to
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  pull off or timing and things like that.
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  This may be a way for, you know, there may be other states that
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  are listening around going like, OK, wait a minute, That's at
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  least a good compromise to have. That's cool.
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  I love that. That's really good.
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  OK, let's go through some of your events.
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  You already kind of gave us a preview of an event that's not
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  very common, so we'll get to there.
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  Let's go through the different groupings.
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  We know you're doing the 1-2, the four and the eight on the
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  next two. Are you doing the 1632, the mile
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  two mile, the fifteen 3000? What are you doing in those next
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  two events? We keep it simple with just the
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  16 and the 32. Perfect.
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  That's the most common. You're you're in a good group.
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  That's the most common. We're doing the 110 high hurdles
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  and the 100 hurdles for boys and girls, we're doing the 300
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  hurdles. Correct.
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  We know you're doing 4 by 1 and 4 by 4.
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  And if you've listened to all of these, you know my joke that's
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  coming. Because if you're not doing the
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  four by one and the four by four, you're not really doing
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  track, and therefore you're not on this podcast.
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  So we know you're doing 4 by 1, 4x4.
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  You snuck in that. You're doing the four by 8.
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  Yep. Any other relays?
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  We got the four by two, four by two, and you mentioned a medley
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  relay or something earlier too. Yes.
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  So we have the Sprint medley of the 2248.
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  So that's always that's, I mean it really comes down to the 800
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  runner being really strong but that that that's a fun one too.
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  And it used to be when we had it before, it used to be a prelim
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  and a final or this last year we switch it to just a just a final
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  on that first day Thursday. So what I really like about
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  that, if you're a true just 400 runner, now you have another
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  event. You got your open four and your
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  4 by 4, and now you can run the 400 in the medley.
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  Or if you're just that, true 800 kid.
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  Now you have the open 8, the four by 8:00 and then you can
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  run the medley 8. So you have those 3, three
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  events and and I like that we don't do that prelim anymore of
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  that because we're now we're able to showcase those top 400
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  kids, those top 800 kids like Sammy and Birnbaum would run the
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  medley every year with that. So showcased him with that and
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  everything too. So what, what are you calling
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  you call it the Sprint Medley relay or what?
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  What do you? Actually call it, yeah, we call
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  it. We call it the Sprint Medley
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  relay. I know some people the Sprint
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  medley of. The 1124 right and everything
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  like that, but no, we just do the 2248.
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  Got it. Any other relays?
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  Any distance medley, relay or anything?
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  Nope, no. The only time we sneak in the
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  distance medley relay is Dakota Relays added that one this last
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  year. So that's kind of fun.
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  Very cool. That Sprint medley relay, not
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  very common. Only a handful of states.
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  I love that. That's really cool.
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  Let's go over to our field events.
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  We're doing long jump and triple jump for boys and girls.
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  Yes, we're doing shot put and discus, boys and girls.
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  Yep. And we're doing pole vault and
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  high jump for boys and girls. Yes, Any other javelin, hammer,
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  multi, steeple, anything else? We are Chuck and the javelin.
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  Chuck and the javelin. Maybe that's it just started As
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  for AA, as a state event two years ago, basically when we
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  shipped it to the three day meet, it was the first year the
• 18:47
  Javelin was a scored event for AA.
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  This upcoming spring, it'll be a scored event for Class A and
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  Class B as well. So that's what we're kind of
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  working through is, is how do we fit these in?
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  Because we're. Throw the javelin is kind of
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  somewhat where we throw the discus and so that's something
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  the schedule that's been worked out, but it's been a really,
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  really cool event to have when we host meets.
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  It's been really fun. Nobody has been stabbed yet, but
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  it's been it. It's been a cool added event and
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  it gives those athletic kids and just one more event to do.
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  Absolutely love that. Very, very progressive from you
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  guys. I love that very much.
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  Some people we talked about, you know, an unofficial meet of
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  champions. Some states will do unofficial
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  state championship multis or hammer.
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  You know, a week or so after the state meet.
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  Anything like that? Nope, we don't.
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  We don't touch the hammer or the multi for for up here at least.
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  Yeah, up there. That's right.
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  All right, Casey, before we move on to a couple of fun questions,
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  anything that we missed Anything else you can think of that we
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  didn't touch on or ask you, You double up your relay points you
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  you only score 6 points. You the four by four goes off at
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  midnight because that's the South Dakota tradition.
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  Anything that we missed that we should know about South Dakota?
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  No, we're pretty standardized on how we do the points, how we do
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  the events. We just do the 108654321 relays
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  and all individual events so it's pretty basic one.
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  One thing I I did like that we changed that automatic timing
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  you know and and that top 24. But we're kind of in South
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  Dakota we're branching out. I mean this is our third year of
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  the three day meet. Some people are totally anti
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  against it. I'm for it, but maybe it's
• 20:28
  because my kids get to sleep in their own bed and we're here and
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  if we're out in rapid, maybe I would change when I'm watching
• 20:35
  kids now for three or four days, so.
• 20:37
  That's a good point. All right, Casey, help us settle
• 20:41
  an argument, a debate, if you will, at least on your bus rides
• 20:45
  to the track meets. What's your culture there?
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  Do we qualify for state? Do we qualify for the state
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  meet? Are we are we going to states?
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  What are we? What are we saying here?
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  Help us out. We say we qualified for state.
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  And so a lot of those conversation, you know, kids
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  will ask me, hey, is this the time that'll get me qualified
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  for state, you know, and that type of thing?
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  Or when those kids are outside of the top 24 and they're not
• 21:06
  sure and we're going to enter because we'll always enter three
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  kids, no matter if they're ranked 120th or they're, they're
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  in the top 24. And so on that Saturday when I
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  see they make it in, I call, I call them and I say, hey state.
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  That's a good way of asking that question is when you say it to a
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  kid, what are you saying? I.
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  You made it to state kid there. Joey, A good job.
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  All right. I love that.
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  Good. All right, man.
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  Casey, you've done a great job. You've really, I love how you
• 21:30
  said you're pretty straightforward and yet you have
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  the javelin, the Sprint medley. Those aren't straightforward
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  things. That's very unique.
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  I love it. I love it.
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  I love it. So you've been great.
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  We're so appreciative and grateful for you.
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  So you win the magic wand. If you could change one and only
• 21:43
  one thing my friend in outdoor track and field there.
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  For South Dakota at an event, take away an event, Go to a four
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  day meet. I don't know, you tell me what
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  do you think? What would be your opinion to
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  help make track and field just a little bit better there in South
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  Dakota Oh man I would say my one thing and and I'm I'm both I'm
• 22:02
  I'm against it both ways and I'm for it is.
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  I'm born, yeah, but there's part of me that goes, I'd love it if
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  it could be more than just three kids per school.
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  Because what happens if you do have that year where you have 4
• 22:16
  kids in the top eight in an event, let's say it's let's say
• 22:20
  the hurdlers. You got a great hurdler group
• 22:22
  and now you got to tell that one kid, hey sorry, you know you
• 22:27
  would place and state but now I, you know, we can find other
• 22:31
  homes for them with all our relays and everything like that.
• 22:33
  That's the one advantage of that.
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  But it is one of those points where where we've had years and
• 22:37
  Sioux Falls Lincoln has had years in especially the distance
• 22:40
  events or the 400 or the 8 where where we could we could qualify
• 22:44
  five or six kids. But I also understand from the
• 22:46
  standpoint too is, is we wanted opportunities and this gives you
• 22:51
  know some of those smaller schools that opportunity as
• 22:54
  well. Whereas maybe at the bigger
• 22:55
  schools in AA, the bigger schools in A and the bigger
• 22:57
  schools in B would then gain maybe too much of an advantage
• 23:01
  against the competition as well. Well, if you've been following
• 23:03
  along in our state series, you know that that is the number one
• 23:07
  concern easily amongst our high school coaches is how do we get
• 23:11
  the best athletes to the state meet, Whether that means the the
• 23:14
  4th Miller, you know, if you're only doing 3:00, what if you
• 23:17
  have that fourth shot putter? It's it's a little easier with a
• 23:19
  half mile or even a sprinter because of relays and stuff.
• 23:23
  That fourth shot putter, I hope you can throw the discus and
• 23:25
  that's not necessarily a transferable skill there.
• 23:27
  By the way, maybe we have javelin again, not.
• 23:30
  That transferable, but yeah that's a tough one that's that's
• 23:33
  easily the number one magic wand wish is something to do with how
• 23:37
  do we get our best athletes at the state meet and let them
• 23:39
  battle it out there so. Casey, thank you so much.
• 23:43
  Man. This has been awesome.
• 23:45
  We are traveling from Alabama all the way to Wyoming.
• 23:47
  And I tell you what, we are learning a ton.
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  It was so cool to learn about South Dakota.
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  I love the Sprint medley. I love the love uniqueness with
• 23:53
  relays in there. 5 relays. That's a big.
• 23:55
  That's a big deal, man. And of course, my heart as you
• 23:58
  know as a manufacturer here at Gill love that you're doing the
• 24:00
  javelin. Thank you very much for doing
• 24:02
  that. I thank you for being here today
• 24:04
  and just teaching us all about South Dakota.
• 24:06
  Man, this is really good. Thank you very much.
• 24:08
  Hey, greatly appreciated. Now I'm going to go be a true S
• 24:10
  Dakotan and go deer hunting this weekend.
• 24:13
  Exactly, exactly. Casey, thank you so much.
• 24:16
  All right. Thank you.