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How Do We Stop The Invasion? · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Turning the page on the rundown, It is show five thousand, one and
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  thirty three, now into year twenty three of The Morning Show with Preston Scott.
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  I'm Preston. He is Grant Allen. Great to be with you this
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  morning, and I am so delighted to have back on the show as a
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  New York Times bestselling author, director of the Socialism Research Center at the Heartland
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  Institute, and in fact editorial director at the Heartland Institute. But more important
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  than any of that, he loves Jesus and he's our friend. He's Justin
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  Haskins. Hello, sir, I'm doing great. How are you? I
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  love, how I love, how I love Jesus and he's my friend are
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  the most important things. That's that's very true. You did put Jesus first.
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  Absolutely. You might flip it, no, but you got it right.
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  No. Absolutely, Jesus is first. Hey. I was a little
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  taken aback by the latest piece in Newsweek where you're tackling the southern border because
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  we have been talking about the Great reset esg for so long. I forget
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  that your eyes are covering lots of different horizons. So let's talk about the
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  southern border. How did we get here? How did we get to where
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  A buddy of ours on the show, Scott Beacon, he said, more
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  illegals have entered in Biden's administration than forty years of peak immigration through Ellis Island.
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  Yeah, I mean it's absolutely astounding. I think we all know how
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  we got here. This is the easiest softball question of all time. Thank
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  you. Democrats and a lot of establishment Republicans don't want to do anything about
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  border security. And over the past forty fifty years we've seen that play out
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  over and over and over again. The problem has been getting progressively worse.
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  And finally what happened is we got an administration that is so far to the
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  left that they've essentially said, just come on in. We don't care,
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  we don't care anymore. Just come on in. Anyone can claim asylum,
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  and it doesn't matter if you're coming here under suspicious circumstances, it doesn't matter
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  who you are. We will not only welcome you into the country, we
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  will, you know, allow you to go to all sorts of different places,
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  will fly you across the country. We'll do all kinds of things.
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  And I think a lot of people in Mexico and in Central America and South
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  America are and around the world who are coming across the border, because we're
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  finding all sorts of evidence that people from China and other people are coming across
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  the border through Mexico now realize that this could be their last opportunity for a
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  very long time to have this, you know, just walk across the border
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  with no consequences. And so I think that's what's going on here. This
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  is sort of the last ditch f If Donald Trump becomes president, we know
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  a lot of this is going to get shut down, and a lot of
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  other people around the world know that as well, and that's why we're seeing
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  this massive flood that coupled with the radical policies as the Biden administration, it's
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  just been getting progressively worse, and if Biden wins, it's going to get
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  even crazier over the next four years. I think we understand why the left
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  side of the aisle wants to do this. I think we get a little
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  bit of that. Tell me about the right side of the aisle. Why
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  are established Republicans? Is it because they want to turn an eye for those
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  that hire these people? Or what is it? Man? I have heard
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  all kinds of different explanations from people. I think some of it is genuinely
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  compassion. I think they feel bad about the situation. They don't want to
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  just round up a bunch of people who've been living here for years and sending
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  them home. They I think part of it is just it's really difficult to
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  get anything passed in Congress. Republicans couldn't even get Obamacare reversed after they promised
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  for years and years years to do that, you know. So I think
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  there's there's a degree of that. I think that there are some establishment Republicans
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  who have ties with big gigantic corporations and big gigantic corporations, some of them
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  benefit from a legal immigration because i llegal immigrants work for a lot less than
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  than American workers, and so, you know, big agriculture and you know,
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  certain industries like that I think benefit from it. So I think there's
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  a lot of different motivating factors on the right on the left. I think
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  it's just really simple. They want more people to come here, and then
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  they're going to hope that they'll vote for them, which I think is all
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  this is about. Welcome to m a d radio network. Make a difference
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  Radio Network and this is the Morning Show with Preston Scott. Eleven minutes after
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  the hour, Justin Haskins with us from the Heartland Institute. Justin we talk
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  about some businesses, some industries benefiting from this, and when I ment that,
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  I always hear from a friend of the program that says it's time to
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  name names rather than allowing that to kind of be a shadow cast on business
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  in general and industry in general. Is it time to name and call out?
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  Do we know the actual names of the businesses the organizations that are benefiting
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  from illegal immigration and how do they get around you know, the issue of
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  wage laws and paying people under the table and all that. Yeah, I
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  mean, I think that's all. That's a great question. I think we
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  should. I think we absolutely should. I have not done the research to
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  know exactly which corporations are promoting this, but if I were going to look
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  into that, and maybe I will, would I would start with who is
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  giving money to the various causes and organizations that are promoting this ideology, Which
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  corporations are giving money to those causes, which donors and which donors are you
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  know, shareholders of these big corporations, and that sort of thing that are
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  giving money to promote these policies in Washington, d c. And at the
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  state level and all of that. I think usually when you follow the money,
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  you'll find the answer that you're looking for. I think, generally speaking,
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  in a variety of different ways, directly and indirectly. I think corporations
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  kind of all benefit from it in the sense that, you know, regardless
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  of whether you as a corporation hire someone who's here illegally, you might do
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  business with a supplier that does, or you might hire a building company that
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  does, or you might or or maybe you just have customers that do right.
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  And so there's just maybe you just think it's good for the overall economy
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  generally and in your area, and you do you know. So there's so
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  many different factors that relate to this, but I don't think you can say
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  separate that part of it from the equation. I really do think that's one
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  of the most big motivating factors on the right with establishment Republicans. I know
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  that the left has been working so hard to remove the term illegal from the
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  immigration equation. They want us to look at it as if it's just immigration,
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  but it's not. There's legal immigration, and there's illegal immigration, and
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  they've conflated the two, and they do that quite intentionally, and they do
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  it well. So how do we What do you believe is the answer and
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  where does it lie? Does it lie in the states? Does it lie
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  with the federal government? Right? So I believe strongly, and this is
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  a little bit of a controversial view, but I believe strongly that states have
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  the authority to do a great deal on immigration. I would argue that border
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  states have the ability to build whole border walls to stop what's going on right
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  now. I would argue that states have the authority to pass all kinds of
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  laws would remove illegal immigrants from their state and do other things like that detain
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  illegal immigrants. And the reason I believe that is because Article one, section
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  ten of the Constitution says that no state shall, without the consent of Congress,
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  engage in war unless actually invaded or in such imminent danger as will not
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  admit of delay. And another section of the Constitution says that the federal government
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  shall basically protect states in the event of an invasion. So I believe that
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  what we're seeing right now is clearly an invasion. I think we've seen that
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  over the past forty or fifty years. And the reason I believe it's clearly
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  an invasion is because if you look at the history of the use of that
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  word at the time of the Founding Fathers, which is what my Newsleague article
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  is all about, it's very obvious that the word invasion included all kinds of
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  scenarios that would apply to this situation. For example, James Many Madison,
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  who was widely considered to be the father of the Constitution, wrote in the
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  Federalist Papers, which were essays advocating for the passage support of the Constitution,
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  that pirates were invaders. This was an example of invasion, and that he
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  was making a case for why we need to have navy and all this other
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  stuff. Twelve of the thirteen dictionaries that were available at the time included a
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  definition of invasion that was extremely broad and did not apply to just military incursions.
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  The piracy thing was brought up over and over and over again by numerous
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  It was a huge issue in the eighteenth century, as you might imagine.
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  And I don't know how you could make the case that pirates were invaders in
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  the seventeen and eighteen hundreds, but that drug cartels from Mexico are not invaders
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  today, and so I think pretty clearly the federal government is doing is not
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  stopping drug cartels. They have not effected done that because the borders are wide
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  open. Therefore, states have the authority to stop drug cartels. Drug cartels
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  are invaders just like pirates are invaders, and I think it's a pretty open
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  and shutcase. They can do what they need to do in order to stop
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  that. But there were also other things that occurred in the eighteenth century.
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  There were peaceful immigrations between states. So there was a huge conflict between Connecticut
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  and Pennsylvania in the latter half of the eighteenth century where a bunch of people
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  from Connecticut were moving into lands that were claimed by Pennsylvania and they were setting
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  up towns and doing things like that, and the state of Pennsylvania for fifty
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  years argued this was an illegal immigration and all of this stuff into their states,
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  and they specifically referred to them as invaders on multiple occasions. Benjamin Franklin
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  wrote about this, calling them and calling it an invasion. At one point,
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  the Pennsylvania legislature officially declared in a resolution that they ended up sending to
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  Congress saying this was an invasion and it was illegal. Justin Haskins with us
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  for just a few more minutes. So West Virginia is cracking down on major
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  banks. They're the latest state justin to push back against ESG. Are we
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  seeing a bit of a tipping point with what's happened in Florida, Texas,
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  now West Virginia, a handful of other states. Yeah, I think there's
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  I'm hoping that there's a tipping point, you know. I think last year
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  with the law that was passed in Florida with ESG and cracking down on financial
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  institutions and ESG discrimination with banks and pension funds and things like that in the
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  state, I really hoped that this year would be a wave of anti ESG
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  laws, And we saw a little bit of that, but not as much
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  as I would have liked. But I do think that we are reaching that
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  point where states are realized they have to do something or else banks are just
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  going to run wild with this. Other financial institution's insurance companies, they're gonna
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  run wild with it. This year. Actually, Tennessee is on the verge
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  of passing a very very good law. It's probably the closest ones of the
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  one that was passed in Florida of any law that we've seen. Since it's
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  already passed the legislature, it's waiting for the governor's signature if they expect that
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  he's going to sign it sometime soon. So that's really good news on the
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  ESG front. So in America, I do think we are seeing a pretty
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  good pushback in the States. I'm hoping next year we're going to see an
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  even bigger pushback, not only because I'm hoping the election goes well, but
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  also because next year we have some incredible, incredible things happening in Europe that
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  I think are going to require states to really start taking this seriously. The
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  European Union is on the verge of passing its own ESG law, except this
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  ESG law is going to require massive companies all over the world to basically impose
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  ESG on their employees if they do business in Europe. Wow, it's a
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  really crazy ESG laws. There'll be a vote on it this month coming up.
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  Implementation would start over the next few years, and I think that's going
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  to scare the heck out of a lot of people. If it actually passes
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  what about what Mississippi did the Secretary of State there, Michael Watson, basically
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  suing Blackrock and hitting it with a cease and desist order over untrue statements about
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  ESG investments. Yeah, I think this is great in states that can't get
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  bills passed for whatever reason, and there's a bunch of them. There are
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  a lot of ags and others who are putting pressure on big financial institutions,
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  big asset managers like Blackrock to say, hey, look, you can't do
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  this kind of discriminate. In some states, they've started requiring companies like Blackrock
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  to just the right an attestation saying we don't discriminate like this, and then
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  that opens the door to them suing them later on if it turns out that
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  they are discriminating. So really really clever tactics for out of Mississippi. Louisiana
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  has done some good stuff in that same way, and we've seen it in
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  other states as well, West Virginia, et cetera. So there is a
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  lot of progress that's been made, but unfortunately we need a lot more progress.
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  Next year. We have Texas, we have some really big states that
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  are going to be taking this legislation up that either weren't in session this year
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  or weren't doing non financial bills this year, because some states do things differently,
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  they do it every other year or something, And so next year we've
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  got some really big states that are up for grabs, and I have really
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  high hopes that we're going to see some massive momentum in twenty twenty five.
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  Where and when is the vote going to take place? What body is making
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  that vote in Europe? So it's the European Parliament, which is one of
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  the two legislative bodies in the European Union. The Council in the European Union
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  has already approved it, and the European Parliament had already approved an earlier version.
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  So now they're just in the process of reconciling it. And basically,
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  if they don't pass it, the vote is in a couple of weeks.
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  I think it's the twenty fourth of April. If they don't pass it,
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  it will be because it's not radical enough, essentially, and so I think
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  it's going to pass because this is their last opportunity to do it for a
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  while. All right. As always, justin thanks so very much, my
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  best to you and your family and we appreciate the visit. We'll talk to
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  you next month. Thank you, Sarah, think care all righty. Justin
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  Haskins with us this morning on the Morning Show with Preston Scott