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Mutilation Ranch: Colorado Bigfoot, ETs & Cold Case Files with Ed Brown · The Cryptid Huntress

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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good afternoon, everybody. It's the Cryptid Huntress. I'm Jessica Jones,
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  Speaker 2: but y'all know who I am.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Thank all of y'all for being here today. My gosh,
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  Speaker 2: we have a wonderful, fantastic show today with a fantastic guest.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are all love Ed. We're going to sit
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  Speaker 2: down with Ed Brown today, y'all. And if you guys
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  Speaker 2: have not met Ed yet, he's been on the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's been three whole years. I don't know what we
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  Speaker 2: were thinking. I should have had Ed back a lot
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  Speaker 2: sooner than this. But Ed is a part of some documentaries.
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  Speaker 2: One of them, I just watched it last night. It
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  Speaker 2: is fantastic. And he's a longtime Bigfoot field researcher. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into some of his most recent
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  Speaker 2: investigations and his Bigfoot history and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And you guys are going to see that through his research,
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  Speaker 2: he's connecting the dots just like me and my teams
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  Speaker 2: have been connecting the dots with all of this phenomenon
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  Speaker 2: from cattle mutilations to ETs to to the paranormal, to
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  Speaker 2: missing persons, to Bigfoot and Dogman. It's all connected somehow.
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  Speaker 2: And they are showing this in these documentaries that it
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  Speaker 2: is a part of. And so, yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get into that today.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: The links to all my social media over there as well.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just thinking, we've got a huge event
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  Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. And, uh, and I got worried
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  Speaker 2: cause I saw this morning they put rain or shine.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh gosh, it might rain. It's
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  Speaker 2: an outdoor event, but we have a Bigfoot town hall, uh,
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  Speaker 2: in Braggs, Alabama. You guys come and see me over there. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I am one of seven speakers. It keeps saying national speakers. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and so we're going to be, uh, at Cornwallis 1828.
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  Speaker 2: Scott and Sheila Granger of Squatch Fishing Outfitters are putting
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  Speaker 2: this on along with Dent Bell at Cornwallis 1828. This
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  Speaker 2: is a historical area down in Alabama. It's called the
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  Speaker 2: Black Belt region of Alabama. I did a little commercial
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  Speaker 2: for this last night and I said, we're all going
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  Speaker 2: to do a little, we're going to get Judy chopped
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  Speaker 2: by the Bigfoots down there is what I said. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I thought that was funny. But anyways, it's in the
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  Speaker 2: Black Belt region of Alabama. Y'all come see me This Saturday,
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  Speaker 2: all day, and a lot of people are camping out
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  Speaker 2: down there at different campgrounds and stuff. Y'all hit me up.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys are coming down there, y'all want to
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  Speaker 2: come see us. But anyways, y'all come see me at that.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, let's get to our show today, y'all. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so on this episode, we are sitting down with Ed Brown.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to discuss his latest cryptid investigations and his documentary,
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  Speaker 2: Friends in the Sky, the Investigation at Mutilation Ranch. Involving
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  Speaker 2: a retired sheriff's deputy. Who teams up with a psychic medium.
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  Speaker 2: To investigate cattle mutilations. At a Colorado ranch. And ultimately
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  Speaker 2: they uncover Bigfoot. Extraterrestrials. In the mysterious case of a
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  Speaker 2: missing woman. Y'all it's actually really interesting. Super fantastic. And
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit sad as well. But it's really good.
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  Speaker 2: They pose a question. Is this all connected? And I
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  Speaker 2: think it is. Ed Brown is a Bigfoot hunter. And
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  Speaker 2: a cryptid researcher. He's hosted. two popular YouTube talk shows
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  Speaker 2: on the Big Truth channel, and he's a boots-on-the-ground field
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  Speaker 2: researcher who's actively searched across the U.S. for Bigfoot, the paranormal,
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  Speaker 2: and extraterrestrial phenomenon. He's researched with people like Adam Davies,
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  Speaker 2: Russell LaCorde, and Bob Gimlin. He's a published author as
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  Speaker 2: well as a well-known Bigfoot researcher in the communities, and
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  Speaker 2: his goal is to help Create solidarity in the community,
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  Speaker 2: regardless of one's beliefs. You guys can find a lot
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  Speaker 2: of his shows over on Big Truth on YouTube. And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to get into that documentary, of course, today.
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  Speaker 2: And he's done a documentary with Greg Ogles, y'all. Y'all
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  Speaker 2: know I was in one of Greg's last ones. And
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  Speaker 2: please help me welcome to the show, Mr. Ed Brown.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica, man, what an introduction. Hey, it's great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Are you telling me it's been three years?
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  Speaker 2: Three years. I looked it up.
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  Speaker 1: It feels like it was like yesterday. What's up?
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  Speaker 2: What is wrong with us? I know.
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  Speaker 1: I know. Time flies when you're having fun, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: It does.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I know you've been very busy, Ed. First of all,
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  Speaker 2: thank you so much for being here today. It's so
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  Speaker 2: great to see you.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited. When we talked a few days ago, I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yes, I get to talk to Jessica. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: I was excited. Still am.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm more excited to talk to you, actually.
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  Speaker 2: You are okay. I'm a busy lady and I get
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  Speaker 2: out in the field a lot. I do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of boots on the ground investigations around my area in
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  Speaker 2: Georgia and all over Alabama and Tennessee, North Carolina, Florida, wherever,
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  Speaker 2: wherever I'm at. But you, you, you're on the road
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  Speaker 2: all the time. And, and I see documentaries popping up
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  Speaker 2: all the time and stuff. What, what have you been
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  Speaker 2: up to recently?
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  Speaker 1: Recently, well, the last few weeks, I've actually just decided
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  Speaker 1: to take some time off to put the family up
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  Speaker 1: to a cabin and, and relax for a few days. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: the guy came home and just been relaxing for a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, getting things set up to get back
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  Speaker 1: out on the road again. Yeah. So, so, uh, here lately,
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  Speaker 1: it's just been kind of some very much needed downtime and, uh,
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  Speaker 1: get ready to do it all over again. Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Ed, when you go out on vacation, are you still
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  Speaker 2: looking for Bigfoot sign?
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm, I'm, we, we, we go to the
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  Speaker 1: cabin and I'm sitting in there watching TV as if
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  Speaker 1: I was sitting at home, but, uh, at least I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything else. I didn't have to
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  Speaker 1: clean house or nothing. You know, I just, I just
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  Speaker 1: sit there and relax, you know? So yeah, I just relax.
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  Speaker 1: I relax.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Well, I'm sure the Bigfoots were probably looking
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  Speaker 2: at you. They were studying you while you were on
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  Speaker 2: vacation probably.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's possible. We, we were in a, uh,
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  Speaker 1: in an interesting location. We were, um, up in, uh,
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  Speaker 1: dover tennessee we went there for for a few days
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  Speaker 1: uh which is right on the edge of land between
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  Speaker 1: the lakes so uh so it is very possible we
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  Speaker 1: and it was pretty wooded area it was uh out
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere it was kind of nice
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  Speaker 1: so uh it's it's possible i don't doubt it.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that must not be too far from the is
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  Speaker 2: that close to the bell witch cave by chance.
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  Speaker 1: So the bell witch cave is on the east side
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  Speaker 1: of interstate 24 and uh the bell witch cave and
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  Speaker 1: the where we were at is on the West side
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  Speaker 1: of 24. So it was, I would say 75, about
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  Speaker 1: 90 miles, probably from one to the other. So a
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles, give or take.
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  Speaker 2: That's not too bad. I know I've been wanting to
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  Speaker 2: go there. I've not been to the Bellwitch cave yet.
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  Speaker 1: It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a really cool place. I,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll tell you, man, anybody, I think they're, I
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  Speaker 1: think they're tours. I believe are closing up for the season.
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  Speaker 1: either they have, or they're about to one or the other.
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  Speaker 1: So if you, I would give them a call and
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  Speaker 1: try to get something set up. It's pretty inexpensive. You
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  Speaker 1: can take a, you know, a team of four or
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  Speaker 1: five people and you know, it's not too bad. Have
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  Speaker 1: a good time. Check out the old cabin, check out
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  Speaker 1: the cave. And if you're lucky, you might even get Tabitha,
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  Speaker 1: my girlfriend, you might even get her as a, as a,
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  Speaker 1: as a guide, which would be a lot of fun,
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  Speaker 1: you know? So yeah. So yeah, it's a, it's an
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  Speaker 1: interesting place. It's got a lot going on. And I think,
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  Speaker 1: Now they're, I think in October, in a few days,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to start their, you know, their tours where
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  Speaker 1: you get on a wagon and they drive you through
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  Speaker 1: the area, which is pretty cool. And have like a
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  Speaker 1: little haunted fest type thing going on. So it's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. That sounds awesome. Yeah, I follow them.
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  Speaker 2: They've got like a Facebook page and stuff. So I've
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  Speaker 2: been keeping an eye on it and thinking, man, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if next time I go to the LBL,
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  Speaker 2: I might have to take a little detour on the
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  Speaker 2: way home or something and go check it out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely. Definitely worth a stop. Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's, let's get into some of your, maybe not
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  Speaker 2: super recent, but like according to this documentary and stuff,
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  Speaker 2: I know you've been doing some boots on the ground stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You probably get called out to places to go investigate.
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  Speaker 2: I would assume with your background.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny you say that. I was thinking about that
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  Speaker 1: the other day. I remember thinking to myself, like, it's
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  Speaker 1: like most people, you know, you hear people talk about, well,
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  Speaker 1: my area, this and my area, that, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: is my area. That's my, it's like, I, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have an area, you know, in fact, I, I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking like, I live so close to land between the lakes,
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  Speaker 1: but I've never been there to investigate. Everything I do
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  Speaker 1: seems to be out hundreds of miles away and I
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  Speaker 1: got to travel and, but you know, it's okay. And
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  Speaker 1: I love it. You know, eventually I'll get to land
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  Speaker 1: between the lakes. I just haven't yet. Oh man.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'll holler at you next time I head up
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  Speaker 2: that way.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I always keep my trips. I keep them secret until
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  Speaker 2: I go.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: But, uh, but if next time I go, I'll let
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you don't want to kind of, you know, have
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  Speaker 2: a muddy the waters with like what people know you're going,
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  Speaker 2: they could go and try to, you know, sneak up
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  Speaker 2: on you or trick you. And it was kind of weird.
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  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah. We did that. We did that at a, well,
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  Speaker 1: I won't go into a lot of detail. I'll make
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  Speaker 1: it short, but there was a, a place that was
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  Speaker 1: pretty famous and, uh, ran by a guy who was, uh, pretty, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Well known. And the claims were, you know, pretty far
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  Speaker 1: out there. So we, we, I won't say we snuck in,
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  Speaker 1: but we went without telling anyone we were going. And
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  Speaker 1: it was, it was an interesting adventure. Yeah. So, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds fun. That sounds fun. Well, okay. I
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  Speaker 2: want to hear about Mutilation Ranch. Cause this sounds really, this, this,
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  Speaker 2: the name by itself sounds really daunting.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I watched the documentary last night. I thought it
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  Speaker 2: was fantastic. But you guys went out there and did
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  Speaker 2: a full investigation of this place. It's kind of similar
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  Speaker 2: to what a skinwalker ranch would be. And my team
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  Speaker 2: has a place we research. We call it the Skinwalker
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  Speaker 2: Ranch of the South. It's got a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: same activity out there. Tell me about Mutilation Ranch and
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  Speaker 2: how did it stumble across your path?
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  Speaker 1: So, you know, and you mentioned mutilation. you know, the
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  Speaker 1: Big Truth channel on Facebook. And that is actually run
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  Speaker 1: by Dan Lindholm, my brother from another mother grade guy.
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  Speaker 1: And a guy he went to school with is the
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  Speaker 1: is the, you know, the main character in the documentary,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's we're basically following his investigation. So the
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  Speaker 1: two of them talked and, you know, I got on
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  Speaker 1: the phone with Greg and, We talked and it took
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  Speaker 1: a little while to get everything together, you know, at
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  Speaker 1: least a year or so before we actually got out there.
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  Speaker 1: But we put together a small team. And it's funny
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  Speaker 1: because we we knew we knew everything we were going
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  Speaker 1: to do before we got there and then found out
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  Speaker 1: that we didn't know anything we were going to do,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because everything changed. And it goes back to
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  Speaker 1: like following the evidence. You know, we don't. The idea
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  Speaker 1: was to follow his investigation. That was the idea. And
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  Speaker 1: then we did our own investigations as well. And it
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of fun. But the ranch itself is
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  Speaker 1: actually a very interesting place. Huge ranch. It's got a
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  Speaker 1: highway that a road, two lane road that runs all
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  Speaker 1: the way through the property. It's like a mile long.
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  Speaker 1: And in one spot, there's this bridge. and right where
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  Speaker 1: the bridge is. And this is, this is the part
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  Speaker 1: that really caught me in the very beginning, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: even more than the cattle mutilations and, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: other stuff on that stretch of road. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what the time period was now popped my head,
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  Speaker 1: but there'd been like 16 single car fatalities as well as, um,
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  Speaker 1: 16 cattle mutilations, which I thought was very interesting, you know? And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: So that, that's what really caught my attention to begin with. And, uh,
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  Speaker 1: the whole investigation just took a, took its own turn
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  Speaker 1: and turned into a, uh, an interesting trip.
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  Speaker 2: Why, why do you think that number 16 is so significant?
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  Speaker 1: Have you ever thought about that? I, I've tried to
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  Speaker 1: come up with something that would be, you know, synonymous
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  Speaker 1: with it would, you know, would kind of connect the two, but, uh,
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  Speaker 1: I can't figure out what that would be. It could
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  Speaker 1: just be coincidental. But one of the accidents, the owner
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  Speaker 1: of the ranch, Mr. Miller, said that when he looked over,
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  Speaker 1: the car was actually, in his own words, was like levitating.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just went off the road sideways. And
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  Speaker 1: that's an interesting thing. thing because he also claimed that
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  Speaker 1: Travis Taylor, Dr. Travis Taylor from Skinwalker Ranch had visited
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  Speaker 1: the ranch and using, you know, all the equipment that
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  Speaker 1: they have, you know, that I don't have access to,
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  Speaker 1: or even the knowledge of using they, uh, he was
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  Speaker 1: able to determine that there were, there was a spot
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  Speaker 1: on the ranch and this spot seemed to move that
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  Speaker 1: there was no gravity. So that's a, an interesting thing.
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  Speaker 1: And he said, uh, according to Travis, that was, uh,
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  Speaker 1: only the second place in the entire world that he's been,
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  Speaker 1: that they've found that. The first place was Skinwalker Ranch.
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  Speaker 1: Second place, Mutilation Ranch.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no gravity.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little spot that there's just the gravity just
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  Speaker 1: doesn't work. Really? Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: And it actually is like it moves. So it could
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  Speaker 2: be anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Now, I haven't talked to Dr. Taylor about it. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm only going by what, you know, Mr. Miller said,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the ranch owner. But yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: And it makes sense. You know, I mean, I... The
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  Speaker 1: part with no gravity doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that things will levitate before they crash,
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  Speaker 1: you know, that would make a reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting. And it seems like I remember from
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  Speaker 2: the documentary, they're talking about how there was like a
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  Speaker 2: river that's like a dry creek bed, I guess. And
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  Speaker 2: it only has water in certain times because they have
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  Speaker 2: to open up the dam and they let some of
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  Speaker 2: the water out and stuff. But that it seems like
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  Speaker 2: is that where some of the crashes were along that riverbed,
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  Speaker 2: the dried riverbed?
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  Speaker 1: Was it close to that? Yes. Yeah. Most of them
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  Speaker 1: were right there at that bridge that I just mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: That bridge goes right over that riverbed you're referring to.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, most of them were right there in that area. So, yeah, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, the government, good old government came out.
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  Speaker 2: This past week, it was about a week ago, I
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  Speaker 2: did a show on where I brought up some new
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  Speaker 2: documents with the newest UFO disclosure dump, is what I
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  Speaker 2: call it, with the Pentagon, the Department, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: I guess, I want to say the Department of War. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the Defense Department. Yeah, it says the Department of War, okay,
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  Speaker 2: when you go to their website. But they've done that
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  Speaker 2: sixth release. And they had a document on there about Stargate's,
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  Speaker 2: traversing wormholes, stargates, and negative energies. And, and I went
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  Speaker 2: through it and I pulled up charts. They had all
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  Speaker 2: sorts of stuff on there that backs up a lot
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  Speaker 2: of stuff that we've even encountered out in the field. Okay. And,
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  Speaker 2: and my, my thing is if, if they had all
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  Speaker 2: these documents on traversing wormholes and how time travel works,
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  Speaker 2: and that means that they're utilizing it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: They've been using it. And, and it was long in a, the,
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  Speaker 2: strangest thing to me was like oh it's in a
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  Speaker 2: ufo disclosure dump here okay and uh and and i've
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  Speaker 2: had plenty of people that have come in on my
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  Speaker 2: shows and they've said you know they've been abductees and
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  Speaker 2: i'm personally have seen extraterrestrials face to face at least
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  Speaker 2: twice um and um and so where how are they
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  Speaker 2: getting here where are they going and all that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff who sent them okay and uh and and
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  Speaker 2: it comes down to like places like skinwalker ranch and
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: i'm assuming like mutilation ranch have places where they're going
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to be wormholes and they're going to be stargates and
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: portals and things like that. And maybe that's why there's
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: something like if the energies are off there, people are
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: having wrecks and stuff. I wonder if it has anything
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: to do with any of that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. And I think that's very possible. I mean,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: I would, I can only imagine that when you're dealing
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: with the type of technology that it would take to
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: create a wormhole or, or a portal or, or whatever
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: those things might be. the, the energy from that, all
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: it could do is, is affect our, our normal energy here,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you know? So the idea of something like that causing
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a gravitational depletion would, would be, I mean, yeah, it's, it's,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: I guess it's possible. Yeah.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: It could be. Well, okay. Well, this, this, when they
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: went out there and they first started doing research on
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: this mutilation ranch, it really, they got, uh, Is it Dan?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: Was that his name?
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Dan. The one guy is Greg. Greg Feynman is the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: main guy.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, Dan's the friend that came out.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Correct. Okay.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: Well, when he first got called out there, he was just...
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Was he like a MUFON.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: You know, uh, person or he got called out just
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: to go investigate cattle mutilation. Or was this when he
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: was a deputy sheriff? I can't remember.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: So when he was a deputy sheriff, they would get
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: calls due to, you know, mysterious deaths of, of cattle. And, uh,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: you know, they would see, you know, you go outside
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and you see your, you know, your beloved cow laying
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: on the ground with holes in it, you know, you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: call the police. So that's what happened. So he would
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: show up as a, as a deputy, but, uh, they
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: weren't allowed to really investigate as a deputy. They weren't
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: really allowed to investigate what happened. You know, they could
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: only just document it and that was it. So when he,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: when he ended up retiring as a police officer, he's,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: you know, those memories were still there. So he decided
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: he wanted to kind of go into look at him
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a little deeper. So when he started asking around and
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: it seemed like everybody was telling him, go talk to,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you know, Mr. Miller, you know, So, and that's how
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: that ended up happening. He ended up talking to Mr.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: Miller and the rest, as they say, is history. You know,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: the investigation gets started.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So he had no background in like MUFON
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: or any, probably no interest in UFOs or anything. I
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: think that's kind of where I was going with that.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: It's like, he didn't have any interest in any of
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: this stuff until he saw those weird cattle mutilations. And
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: it's gotta be odd seeing that in person for the
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Some of the, some of the things that, that we,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: And I'm trying to remember, I mean, there's so many
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: things that were left out of the documentary just because
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: of time that would have been wonderful. additions. But, you know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: because of, you know, you're making a film and, you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: you want to, you know, keep it at a realistic timeframe. It's,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you know, it's tough, but there were things left out.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: And I can't remember if this was actually in the
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: film or not, but when he was a police officer,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: they were even talking about how, they found a carcass
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: in a tree. So that led them to believe. And
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: of course, something that the ranch owner mentioned on film
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: about a cow had fallen on another cow and a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: cow on the bottom was still alive, but had a
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: broken back and the top cow had been mutilated. So
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: that suggests that that when they're done doing whatever they're doing,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: they just drop them, you know? So, and there's not
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of trees out there, you know? So it
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: would have been just, it's odd, you know, it's a,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it's a very strange occurrence, you know? So, so yeah,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: it's a, it's odd.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: It is odd.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: So was there any, I mean, you got to think
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: at least kind of be, maybe they're getting sucked up
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: by UFOs and then they're, they're, cutting them up and stuff.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: It's like, they're not, whatever kind of surgery that's being
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: done on them is not happening right there. It's being
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: done somewhere else. And then they're being dropped back into
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: the pasture basically. Is that, that what they were finding?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And that's exactly what's happening. And you know, when
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: you see some of these, we'll say, we'll call them
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: wounds of, of the, of the cattle. And we saw
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: like tons of pictures while we were there. I mean, Mr.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Miller has like a book full of just photographs and
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you know, when the eyes are missing and the tongue
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: is missing, you know, you can understand that because birds
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: will go after the soft tissue first, you know, and
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: other animals will. So that kind of makes sense. However,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: there was no sign of disturbance. There was no blood
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: on the ground. There was no, you know, there was
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of things that should have been there had
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: it been animals that weren't, you know, and that's very
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: interesting as well. So, you know, whatever's happening to them
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: is happening somewhere else in their place there, whether they're
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: dropped or placed or whatever, you know, is hopefully we'll
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: figure it out in part two. But for now we,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: you know, we don't know. Oh man.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Well, it's just kind of, I guess it's just kind
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: of everybody, most people think that it's ETs taking them. And,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, I told you before the show, I had
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: a buddy of mine who comes on the show. His
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: name is Jimmy Payne. And he claims to be a
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: former MIB agent. And, uh, and he came on the show.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: We did a full show on, uh, he, he was
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: talking about how LBJ ranch in Texas was a place
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: where MIBs were trained to do cattle mutilations. And, uh,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: and he actually connected it to like the Texas chainsaw
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: massacre and that family, the family, like supposed to be like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to have been something like a real thing
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: that actually really happens what he told me. And, uh, but, uh,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: but anyways, uh, let's just say the best part of
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: that show was just learning about the LBJ ranch. And
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: he was giving us some pretty interesting insight information that
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he could have known otherwise, unless
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: he had actually been there and stuff. And, and so
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: what do you think about that? Do you think that
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: maybe I am such a conspiracy theorist, Ed, at this point,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: do you think that it could be like humans and
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: stuff that could be doing this to these cows or
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: what is, what is your feeling about who's doing this?
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: So I, I do believe that our government is, And
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: one department or another has gone out and conducted experiments.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I do believe that's happened. However, that being said, I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think the majority of them are actually done through alien intervention.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I think that they, I think spacecrafts will, will take them.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: And the biggest reason I believe that it's not that
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: I'm just guessing. The biggest reason I believe that is
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: because of the way they're, they're left. There's no, there's
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: no sign of struggle. There's no, um, you know, disturbance
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of where wolves or coyotes or whatever would have to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: get in there and kind of pull body parts away.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I mean, it's, it's missing
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: all those elements. So if you don't have that, then
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: you have to conclude that it happened somewhere else. And
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: I don't see people picking up cows and running off
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: with them and then bringing them back and laying them
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: down dead, you know? So yeah, that's what I, that's
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: what I believe happens. Yeah.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you, too. I do agree with you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: And I think it's interesting to see the different aspects.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: And with every case of everything that happens out there,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: there's probably a whole lot of different explanations for this.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: And it's just like even with Bigfoot, there's not just
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: one Bigfoot out there. There's a whole bunch of them. OK,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and they all look different. Every circumstance is going to
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: be different, of course. And like I said, being a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: conspiracy theorist over here, you know, you could be taking.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: everything is weaponized too. And so, you know, it could
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: have been that like the ETs were taking the cows
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and then the government or whoever agency decided, Hey, let's
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: do this to make it look like it was aliens,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: you know? So there's always that aspect as well.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: That's, that's one of the interesting things about the documentary
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: is that it's, it's the turns that it takes, you know, when,
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: when we decided to do the documentary, you know, we,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: we were already aware of some things, you know, we
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: were already aware of the, cattle mutilations we were already
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: aware of the missing girl you know we were already
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: aware of those things so we thought that's what we
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: were going into you know but then it it you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: know you start following the evidence and the whole thing
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: took a turn and now this whole documentary is it's
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: not only the mutilations it's the missing girl it's the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the paranormal aspects it's the you know, the psychic ability
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: from Mama Sue, the late John, unfortunately she passed away
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: and we, we, God, we miss her. She was awesome.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I loved her to death.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, did she pass away? Oh no.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: We lost her.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: But she was, she was amazing. You know, and I,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I say this all the time and I'll say it
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: now again publicly, but I, I, while I definitely believe
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: in psychic ability, I do also believe that 99% of
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the people who claim to have that ability do not,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I think very few people have it. And
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I think she did, you know, and, uh, that being said, she, um,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: you know, she, she touched on things and then suddenly
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot comes into it and it's Omar and it's this
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and it's that. And it's like, it's, I, my worried, uh,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Biggest concern when we were editing and getting the documentary
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: together to publish, my biggest concern was, is it too much?
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: You know, is it too many different things? You know,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: but when we talked about it, we realized, you know,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: it's true. You know, you follow the evidence. Whatever happens, happens.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Just document it. And that's what we decided to do. So, yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the sign of good researchers right there, because
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: that's what we do too. You got to have a,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: keep an open mind. We don't discount anything. And even
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't make sense, you still write it down,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: you take note of it, you document it, you keep
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: it there and you put it in the back seat
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: for a little while until you find a place to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: put it, you know, and eventually the whole picture will
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: come into focus. And that's the way we are too, because,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: you know, we went out starting off as Bigfoot field
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: researchers and just a Bigfoot field researcher team. And we,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know. We just, you just, there's an evolution
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: there because you go out looking for Bigfoot and there's
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: so much more out there, including, you know, ETs and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: orbs and missing time and even other cryptids like dog
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: men out there. And, and we're just portals. We have,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: we've documented portals out in the field and stuff.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Wait till you see my third documentary. Oh man. It's, it's,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: it's a, it's a, People are going to, I'm telling
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you right now, people are going to love it. It's
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: going to be amazing. I'm really looking forward. It's a
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: nine year investigation. We've been going out there. Yeah. For
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: nine years, we've been putting stuff together and, uh, it's, uh, it's,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: it's going to be amazing. It's going to be, it's,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: it's being edited now and it's, uh, it's going to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: be really, really good. Yeah.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait to see it.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I can't. Okay. It's going to be called portal Creek
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: and portal Creek. Very well, very well titled.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Oh, well, I've got, I'm going to
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: have to sit down and tell you some stuff one day. Maybe,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: maybe during the show, if it comes up, I will,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: because there, there was a, speaking of Portal Creek and stuff.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, we're going to, I'm going to get into
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit of this like time traveling conversation a
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: little bit with you today in just a minute too.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Because of some of the things that I saw in
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: the movie, when I was walking, when I was hiking
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: in one night, late one night where my team was
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: out at the Met, we have a place called the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Meadow that we research. And, and I was hiking in,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: this was several years ago. It had to have been
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: like five years ago.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: At least.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: And, uh, we're hiking in with two people. And, um,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: and I hear from across the Creek, I hear a
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: woman's voice say time travel, like screamed it out. And, uh, and,
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: and I thought I was hearing, I was like, there
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: is no way there's a woman across that way. There's no,
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: there's no way to get over there. Uh, it's full
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: of snakes and scary stuff and it's a swamp. And
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like nobody to be over there. And, um,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: and the people that were with me didn't hear it, but, um,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: but it took me a couple of weeks where I
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: realized that was my voice. yelling at me from across
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: the creek time travel yeah isn't that wild that is
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: yeah so this kind of stuff does happen i've experienced
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: some weird stuff and.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Sure no i i listen i you know and i'm
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: not you know just on you on your on your
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: uh your point there we were we were at the
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: so the third documentary is filmed in florida all right
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: we had the property and uh we were you know
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the the homeowners had invited some people over for dinner
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: now you know you know you know how it is
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: when when things happen you're generally the only one in
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: your group to see it or hear or experience it
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and it always makes you feel like well i know
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: they don't believe I know they don't, you know, this
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: specific time. And I'm telling you, Jessica, this is this
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: is crazy. We had gone out. I was outside. I
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: went out to the front porch to talk to another couple.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And the three of us are standing there talking. And
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I'm on the front porch with my, you know, my
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: back is up against the pole and they're standing right
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: in front of me. And what seemed like my right hip,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: like right by my pocket, but my right hip, two
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: big flashes of light. No clue what it was. It
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: literally lit up the entire front porch area, you know?
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I looked down like, what in the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: world was that? And they're like, I don't know. And
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: she said, maybe it was your phone. I'm like, no,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: my phone's in my back pocket. So I pulled my
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: phone out to show them that I'm like, and I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: pull everything out of my pocket. I'm like, I don't
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: have anything, you know, craziest thing, but they were there.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I had witnesses who saw it, you know? And I'm like, no,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: thank you. Thank God. Somebody finally saw something that I saw,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you know, but it's a, It's, it's, I mean, it's a,
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: it's a, it's a crazy world. We, we know so
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: little of what we think we, what we think we know.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: We don't know anything. Nobody does.
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know nothing about nothing. That's what I tell everybody. And,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: and I, as long as I've been researching.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: You just, and if anybody says they got it all
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: figured out, they don't.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: No. That's the last person you listen to. You're right. Right.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Right. That's right. Well, let me take a quick commercial
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: break because we've got some super chats in here. Thank
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: you so much, Internet, for your support. I really appreciate
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: you so much. And also, Maureen and Gus, thank you
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: so much for the super sticker, too. I appreciate your support.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Y'all are the best. OK, thank you all so much
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: for being here today.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: You know, I've had instances where like I've been able
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: to see personally, like with experience that not everybody that's
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: going to be standing around me is having the same
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: experience as me because I believe that we're all on
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: different frequencies. And we're all in different vibrational frequencies. And
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: so like my son and I had an experience where
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: we were watching orbs. His dad, my son's dad, my
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: husband at 10 couldn't see these orbs with his eyes,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: but he could see them through his phone. He was
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: recording them. And that's where I realized my son and
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I could both see them. My son's following them with
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: his finger and saying, mom, ball, ball. And so we
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: saw them, but he couldn't. So I was like, oh, wow.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Not everybody can see what I see.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Now we have it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and maybe it comes from, like, I guess
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: it just depends on what you're looking at, what kind
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: of experience you're having, whether you're going to be in
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: a higher vibration.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I did.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: A show on Monday about how there were some KGB
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: documents that were kind of leaked that classified shadow people
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: in the hat man as extraterrestrials, and I was thinking, man,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: you kind of have to be in a lower vibe
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: to see that, you know, like a lower frequency, I think, right?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Well, that's a great point i know i mean i
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: think that's a great uh that's a great topic you
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: know i mean because i i've i i have some
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that as well of course you know me
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: i got thoughts on everything yeah yeah i uh that's
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: a that's a that's a very good very good topic
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to to talk.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: About yeah oh you can do a documentary on shadow
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: people and the hat man you.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Can't you you really you know you really can and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: it's you know perception i i talk about perception a
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: lot in fact i One of my favorite quotes was
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: from a guy I used to work with. And even
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: though the context of the quote at the time meant
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: nothing to what I use it for today, it still applies.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: But he said, he goes, Ed, let me tell you something.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: He said, perception is greater than reality. And I'm like, huh.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: So I still remember that quote. It's one of my
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: favorite quotes ever. But it just means what you perceive
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: something to be to you is your reality. No matter
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: what I say or what is actually the truth. It's
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: your truth. And that's all that matters to you. You know,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and that's sometimes your perception isn't reality, but you don't
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: know until you investigate it. You don't know until you
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: find out. That's true.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: We all we all live in our own realities. That's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: what I like to tell people.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: My grandmother used to talk about perception all the time, too.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: She spoke at big events and stuff when I was
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: growing up and she was kind of a community leader
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: and stuff. And she would always talk about perception, how
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: important it was to, you know, perception, you know, fake
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: it till you make it, she'd say. Amen. Yeah. So
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: act like you know what you're doing. It's all going
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: to work out for you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: And so, yes, a tidbit of info and some good
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: advice from old grandma.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: But, but, but, okay. So I wanted to kind of
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: go back and let's talk about the mutilation ranch a
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: little bit more because, you know, there's been a lot
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: of trauma on that land apparently. With the car accidents
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: and potentially bodies, missing people out there. There's a whole
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: lot of different, you know, ways we can go with this.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Because I've been talking about the missing people in our
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: national parks and stuff and where are they going. And
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: I connected that recently and I've always connected it with
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: like portal activity and stuff potentially. And how the government
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: has declassified all those documents. And we got stories to
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: back all that up where people could be being taken
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: into these portals and stuff. but something else I want
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: to talk about is the trauma of the land. You know,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of activity on like civil war battlefields
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: and stuff.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and it's a variety of activity and it's
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: not just like ghost cryptids. You know, we, we have a,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: a battlefield here in North Georgia, South Tennessee, Chickamauga.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Sure. Battlefield.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and there's old green eyes. One of my
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: favorite cryptids.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Or demons. I don't know what it is, but, uh,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: But stuff like that, you know, things can kind of
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: manifest through the trauma in the land, I think. Or
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: maybe the land needs blood sometimes to manifest things. And
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Could that be kind of what's going
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: on at Mutilation Ranch, maybe?
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: So that's a great question. And I agree. the ranch itself,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: there isn't a, a lot of documented history on the
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: ranch itself. You know, it's a, it's been a rancher's
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: ranch for, for a long time, as far as I'm,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm aware. However, you know, you've mentioned earlier,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm not saying time travel, but you know, you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: talked about time travel a moment ago, you know, and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, so let's, let's just take that concept for
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: a sec, for a second. If, if there's a property
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that bad things are going to happen, you know, I mean,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: when does that history begin? Maybe, maybe now is the
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: beginning of that property's history in 200 years, they're going
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to be saying, you know, 200 years ago, this girl
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: was murdered and she was, you know, whatever, you know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: so this is creating that history is what I believe,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I don't know that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: the history of the property is why things are happening,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: but I think it's creating the history of the property
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: and and making it more susceptible, I guess. Okay.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Well, why, why did Gary, it's scary, right? Why did Greg,
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: oh my God, I keep getting his name wrong.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's wrong with me today. He won't care.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Greg, I'm so sorry. I watched the
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: movie and I loved it actually.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: I watched part of it twice actually. And I'm bad
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: with names, Ed.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It's okay. As long as you get mine right, we're fine.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: No, I was about to call you the wrong name
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: on purpose and I decided not to.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: That's a little taking it too far.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But okay. So why, why did he decide to call
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a psychic in?
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Because that's, I actually am super impressed with that because
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I've helped do some cold case work and stuff myself
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: with my, with my remote viewing team.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: This was an impressive, this is impressive to me. What
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: happened and why did he call in the psychic?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: So I think to answer that question, I have to
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: first explain that Greg is very, very detailed, right? I mean,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: his notes on his investigation from when it started is
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: absolutely by far the most detailed notes of any investigation
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: I've ever been a part of or ever seen, you know?
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: And it's because of his background. You know what I mean?
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I mean, he creates his own forms just so he
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: can fill them out, you know? And it works great.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: And it was great. What he recognized was things are
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: happening that he didn't understand. And the only way he
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: could understand that is to bring someone a part of
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: the team who can fill him in on those things,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you know? So... kudos to Greg for, for looking ahead
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and thinking that far ahead. And that's exactly what he did.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I believe anyway, is I think that, uh, I think that,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I think it's because of his, his background, he understood
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: that he needed more than just physical boots on the ground,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: you know, that stuff. I think he needed that extra.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: He recognized it. So kudos to him for that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. Well, I can appreciate that. Okay, big time.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: And I think there's just a lot going on there.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And he had that little, it's almost like a, I
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: want to say a ghost box. He called it a
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: portal device, I think. And he was using that kind
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: of stuff. He's very much into the paranormal side of this,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: I think. And that's how a lot of us started out,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: especially in the Bigfoot world. I used to take my
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: ghost hunting equipment out in the field when I was Bigfooting.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: And I still have my K2 meter and stuff like that.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: It's very useful because all these phenomena do kind of
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: cross over, I think.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. A hundred percent, a hundred percent. I won't even,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: I won't even, I'll talk for the next three hours.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Let me start on that stuff. I'll just, I agree 100%.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Well, well, they started picking up on some, some voices
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and things like that. I want to, how did the
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: missing person come into all of this?
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So when they were, when they were doing their
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: investigation on the ranch and, and again, you know, Greg's
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: idea was to, you know, basically put some something that
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: would show up under a dark light you know on
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the cow so if something touched him it would leave
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: a handprint or it would leave a an image you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: know that they could see with the dark light with
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: a black light okay which was a great idea by
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the way i mean it was a lot of cattle
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: to do that too but it was a great idea
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: and uh while they're out there and they're doing this
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: she starts picking up on a on a on a
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: female um spirit basically you know and suddenly names start
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: coming out you know and the names correspond with actual
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: people and and it was really interesting and again i
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: i don't remember in the documentary if we went this
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: detailed into it or not but the the psychic was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: mama sue was able to pick up the spirit of
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the girl got names of the got the name of
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: the person who was posting her disappearance on facebook which
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: is crazy Then was able to talk to the girl
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and found out exactly where she was missing, where she
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: came missing from the intersection, what it looked like. And
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: we did the research. And by God, in that town,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: it was in Arizona. And I won't go into names
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff, you know, obviously for
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: obvious reasons. But in that town, there was a missing
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: girl by that name at that time. the right age, everything's,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: everything's right. Everything she described. I went to Google earth
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and I, and I said, I done a three 60
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: and looked all the way around everything that was pointed
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: out by the psychic who knew nothing of that area,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: by the way, was correct. Greg even called the sheriff's
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: department there or the local authorities there. And you know, they,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: they told him that nothing that because there was a
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: psychic involved, that nothing they had, nothing he was giving
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: them was actionable, even though everything, everything was lining up. So,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you know, we, we feel like we do feel like
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: our next step is we have to go out and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: do a, a, a detailed search and try to find remains.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Then I think that that's, that's got to be the
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: next step. Oh yeah.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: It's actually quite tragic. Well, you're talking about what happened
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: with the lady getting, abducted. I mean, it does delve
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: into the human trafficking issue that we have across the
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: world right now, especially in the United States. And, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: so there's that aspect of it. And, and maybe her
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: body being there, pieces of her body, at least, I
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: know I'm not gonna give too much away, being, being
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: there at the ranch. And, and so that's how all
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: this kind of starts intersecting, okay, with the paranormal, the
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: cattle mutilations, the UFOs, and, and Mama Sue started channeling
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: the grays and stuff and like ETS and how you,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: would you like to talk about.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Why they were? Yeah. Yeah. She, she, not only that,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: she was also picking up on why they were doing it. And,
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: and as crazy as it sounds, it makes sense. You know,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: they're trying to create life, you know, they're, they were
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: taking the cows and taking their blood basically to try
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: to use their blood to create life, you know? And,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: and I, you know, I, I don't know. I don't
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: know how all that would work. I'm not a scientist
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: or anything, but the thought is interesting and it's actually plausible.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: When you say yourself, why would that happen? Why would
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: that happen? You're asking because nothing comes to mind, but
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: when something as crazy as it sounds pops up, it's like, huh,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: that does make sense. That would be a good reason.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Well, have you ever looked into human mutilations? I know
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: that's kind of gross, but, you know, there have been
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: plenty of humans that are mutilated just like cows and stuff.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, it even dates back to, what was that?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: The hiker, the Russian hikers in the Ural Mountains.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Dalitov Pass. Dalitov Pass. Yes. Yeah, in Russia. Yeah.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: Some of them were actually mutilated like cattle.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And I, and I, and it's funny because I,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: you know, I hear the story and I've read the
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: story and I've read books on the story and I've,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I've really delved into that quite a bit. And while,
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't believe it was a Bigfoot creature
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: that did everything personally, I believe that the Russian government were,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: were working on a new test and the hikers were
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: in a spot they shouldn't have been. Exactly. Exactly. they
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: heard the avalanche coming and uh cut themselves out of
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the tent trying to get away they didn't even have
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: time to put clothes on some of them you know
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: um some of them survived that first onslaught but i
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: i do think it goes back to that we were
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: talking about a minute ago the soft tissue you know
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and uh i think that the birds would have taken
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: advantage of that soft tissue even on a human body
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: and uh the injuries that were um on the bodies
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: would definitely be comparable to being rolled over in an
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: avalanche you know um so so i i i had
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that's just what i believe happened and i and i
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: don't know there there's a lot of stories of lights
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: being seen there's stories of a bigfoot doing it there's
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: stories of this and that and i i just uh
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: i just think that sometimes the the the actual truth
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: is simpler than creating stuff.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: You know yes well yeah And, you know, I actually
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: have always, well, I did a show about this a
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: long time ago. I think that they were being made
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: examples of, too. And maybe some military people came in.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: They say that actually some of the last four that
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: were found, because they were found in different stages.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I guess there was an avalanche or some kind of,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: some of them were buried under snow. Okay, the last
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: four they found. And it said that they had injuries consistent.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: of being in a car accident or being dropped from
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: very high up in the air down to the ground.
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: And that one girl, the one lady, her tongue was removed.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: They didn't say it just came out. It was removed.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: That's true. Wording is important. Yeah, exactly.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: You got to pay attention to the little things.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Now you got me wanting to start all over again
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: with Donald Trump Pass and go, wait a minute. You're welcome, Ed.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. Now you got another rabbit hole.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks. It's just what I need. I know, right?
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. That's a, that's a good point. And, and,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: you know, and, and who knows what really happened? I
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just, uh, you know, trying to follow
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: the evidence and, uh, that, that those injuries that I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: read about with the exception of the removing of the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: tongue are, you know, very, uh, probable in the tumbling snow. And, uh,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: if you've ever heard an avalanche, it sounds like a
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: freight train coming at you. And, and, uh, it would
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: scare someone and they would have to feel like they
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: were in a hurry. And some of the, and one
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of the women, by the way, was found wearing clothes
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: from one of the other victims. So they, they believe
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: that he died. She took his clothes to try to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: stay warm. And, and that's why she was wearing his clothes,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: you know? So, and it ended up, and if you
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: follow it that way, it does make sense. And it's,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: it's a. Yeah. Walk, remove your tongue.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Well, you're welcome. And I was thinking, well, I was
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, being dropped from the air. And
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: these cows obviously are being dropped from the air.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: After they're being they were I mean, they had been
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: some of them have been dead for a little while
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: by the time the dead got there. Right. And and
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: in the documentary, there's actually pretty good video of some
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: of the actual cows that were out there. They were
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: a little crispy. They're a little sun dry, I think. Yeah. But,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: but he had not like moved them or anything. They
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: had not decomposed as much as I thought they would have.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: Right. Right. Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: That was unusual, wasn't it?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the injuries were, there was always something odd
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: about them too. Like the one that was missing just,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: you know, you have to understand that when, when a
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: body decomposes, it expands, you know, and it can rip
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: skin and things like that, you know, it happens. And,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: but there's a, one of them, there was a big
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: piece of leather missing in the back of the, of
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: the cow. And it was almost like a perfect square,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: you know, with cornered edges, but it was, uh, that
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: was pretty weird. You know, the, uh, the, the one, um,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: how do I say this? The one where the anal
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: cavity was, was very much missing, you know, um, that,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: that was a very odd injury as well, you know? So, and,
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and the, rips and the cuts were very, you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: almost like lasered, you know, they weren't, they didn't seem
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: to be ripped out. You know, there wasn't, it wasn't
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: the stretching. It was taken, you know, there, and there's a,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: there's a difference. So it's a, it's interesting. Yeah. Yeah.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: There's some kind of scalpel.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: My friend Barry talks about all the time. I can't remember.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: It's some kind of like, I want to say like
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: a frequency scalpel or something. I can't remember what he
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: calls it, but that may be what they're using. And
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: of course my MIB friend said that it was, you know,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: some kind of, technology that the government had their hand
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: on and stuff but um but the government gets a
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: lot of their stuff their technology from the ets.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely yeah absolutely and i i believe that wholeheartedly
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and and i do believe and i as i said
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: this before and i'm gonna i'm gonna reiterate this i
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: do believe that the government has been involved in some
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: of these problems i just don't think it's only the
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: government i don't think the government could could do that.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: Many you know i I agree. Well, I don't know.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I don't know nothing about nothing. This
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: is for entertainment purposes only.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: That's right. That's right. That's right. It's just my opinion.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: Mine too. Mine too. One more commercial break. Catherine, thank
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: you so much for that super sticker. I appreciate your
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: support so much. Thank you.
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of the ETs and stuff, I would really
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: like to talk about some of the messages that Mama
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Sue was getting, uh, from, from some of the ETS
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: that she was tuning into. Cause well, actually before we
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: go to the ETS, I got something else I want
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: to ask you about the Bigfoots.
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: What's going on with the Bigfoots out there? Cause we
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: hadn't even mentioned that yet.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: So when, when we were out there, we didn't see
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: or have any, like when I was there, I'll put
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: it that way, any Bigfoot experiences or activity or even
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: any evidence. But when, when the, when they were filming
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: their own stuff, you know, getting their teams documented, there were,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: you know, when, you know, when they're sitting in the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: car and they hear, you know, certain sounds and, and
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: audio signals and things are happening, you know, it's a,
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: it could be, it could be a little traumatizing and,
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, as well as I do, Bigfoot
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: can be, you know, they're everywhere. Like you said, you know,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: if you're, if a bear can live, so can a big,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: You know, it's, it's that simple. And there, there could
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: easily be bear in that area. It's, I mean, Colorado,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: come on. Yeah. Oh yeah.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: There's bears. There's bears just about everywhere these days. Seems like.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Okay. So.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: All right. So they got Bigfoot out there now, but,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: but see. The guys were asking her to ask it
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: questions like, are you interdimensional? Right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot interdimensional. I thought that was pretty brilliant.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: I think that's important.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Those are the right kind of questions to ask. And
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: what did the Bigfoot say? Or Oma, or whoever.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: She was talking to. I'm trying to remember the exact
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: sequence of all those questions. I do remember her asking
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: those questions on film. And again, I wasn't there. And
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: you've got to remember, I've seen 10 times more film
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: than 100 times more film than what was actually on
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: the video. Oh, yes.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: Long story short, she said yes.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's what she said. So I know that they,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, I believe they were saying that, yes,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: they were in contact with the Greys, which, you know,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Greg and his team feel that the Greys are good.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You know, they're not evil Greys like, you know, they're
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: made out to be. And that they were in contact
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: and that they were working together You know, and that
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot was interdimensional and that, you know, could go from
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: time and space to time and space. So I know that.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: But as far as more detailed, I don't really know
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: off the top of my head, you know, without going
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: back and looking at things. Oh, yeah.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was really interesting because when they
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: were out there, I don't know if you were there
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: or not. You weren't in the camera if you were there. OK,
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: but and I know you do a lot of behind
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: the camera work, I'm sure.
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: Right. On this one, while we were there, I'm only
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: in front of the camera. You only see me, I think,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: twice in the entire documentary. So I tried to stay
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: out of the way. The one with the orb that
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: floated through, I had no choice because it went right
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: over me, which was amazing. That was a great piece
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: of footage. And then at the very end, I basically
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: placed an order, if you will. Oh, yeah.
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about when you guys were in the
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: house and the orb shot out. That was cool. That
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: was cool.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, that was it. And I think if there
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: was one change I could make to the documentary, I
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: would put like another five minutes into that piece of footage.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Because to me, it was an incredible piece of footage.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: And we talked about it later. You know, lens flare
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: could have been an issue. There were other things that
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: could have been an issue. But to me, it seemed
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: to move very independent of the camera. You know, so
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting. We weren't even doing an
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: investigation at the moment. It was very impromptu. We were
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: standing there and Mama Sue and Dan both got dizzy
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: at the same time. And of course, we walked Mama
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: Sue over to sit her down in the chair just
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: to get her off her feet. And someone said, well,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: pull out cameras. Like, okay. So everybody just started pulling
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: out cameras. And then During that interaction, we were doing
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: some EVPs. We were, you know, talking to, you know,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: trying to get some, and we were getting some answers,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: by the way. And Mama Sue screams bloody murders, like
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: something's coming after her. And she claimed that something came
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: from the corner of the other room right at her.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: And according to her, it had, you know, big red eyes.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: And it was like, you know, like coming at her
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like this, you know, and it scared her. And she
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: runs over to Ryan Singer, who was holding the camera
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: that caught the footage. As he turns, seemingly this orb
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: is going from where she was back towards that same
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: corner that she said something came from. I just happened
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: to be in the way and it kind of comes
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: right over to me and it just kind of goes
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: straight up over me and then back down and right
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: back out. So that was a pretty wild piece of
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: footage and my favorite part of the whole documentary. you know,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: it gave me a chance to be in it. Yeah.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Actually.
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: It's better. It went over you than through you, I guess.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like a, like a jet
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: airplane going over a mountain. I mean, it literally got
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: close and it just turned direction, went straight up right
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: over my head and down the other side and gone,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: you know? And, uh, I, I am not a very big, um,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: orb kind of guy. You know what I mean? I think, uh,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: orbs there's too many other explanations lens flare insects dust
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: breath water droplets there's so many things that can cause
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: what people think are orbs you know so i'm very
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: skeptical about them but it's just my own personal opinion
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: that was an orb it had a consciousness to it
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: it really did it made a it made a decision
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: to change course and go up and over over me
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: as opposed to around me or through me or anything else.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: It literally changed course and went over me. And, uh,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I just don't think there's anything else that could have
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: done that. So, yeah, I thought it was an interesting
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: piece of footage.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: What, what does your gut tell you? Do you think
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: that was a spirit? Do you think it was an ET?
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Um, so my, my gut tells me that it is, um,
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: so in order to answer that, let me just back
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: up just real quick because I, so I, I believe,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: and this is my own gut, I think that in
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: this case, the Bigfoot, the Greys, the interdimensional beings and everything,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I personally think it's all one thing. I think it's
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: telling you whatever it thinks you want to hear. Perfect example,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Bigfoot didn't show up in this story until Dan was there.
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: Dan is a Bigfoot guy. That's when Bigfoot jumps in.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: The point that is, If I can tell you, if
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I can make you think I am whatever you're afraid
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: of or whatever you're interested in, if you're afraid of
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: ghost kids, I can make myself a little two-year-old or
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: a three-year-old girl with long, dark hair or what's scaring you.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or if I want you
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: to feel, I can make you think I am a
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: 70-year-old woman. Hi, honey. They're going to show you whatever
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: they want you to see. And I think that's what's
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: happening there personally, even though we don't really talk about
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: it in the documentary. I will say that that is
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: my own personal opinion, that these things are all one thing,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: rather it's demonic or, and I'm not saying it is,
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying rather it's demonic or spiritual or extra
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: dimensional or whatever it may be. I think they're all
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: one thing.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I like that answer actually. And coming
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: from a fellow Bigfoot field researcher, okay, like, I mean,
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: both of us, we've been in this long enough to
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: like understand we really don't know a whole lot, but
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: we have our opinions on stuff.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: And, uh, and I'm coming to a similar conclusion myself, Ed,
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and I've been talking about this on my shows and
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: I know I sound crazy. I think that there, some
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: things are just holographic and stuff and they can be
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: whatever you want. And, uh, you know, I, I, we got, uh,
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the last time I went to the LBL, my friend
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: and I got ambushed at two in the morning. I
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: talk about it a lot now because it was so weird.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: I invisible entities that were on that were bipedal. They
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: surrounded us for an hour to an hour and a
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: half throwing rocks and pushing our vehicles. And so it
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: was just wild. And it wasn't showing up in my
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: night vision. I couldn't there was nothing there, but they
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: were standing right in front of us. And and I
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: was like, well, could this be a ghost or. is
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: it Bigfoot cloaked? I think it was humans wearing cloaking material.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could have been that too. It could
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: have been anything. We just don't know.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's, it's one of those, um, sometimes the right
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: answer isn't that easy to find, you know, and that's
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: just the way it is. Yeah.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Well, the problem with us, with me and Matt, my
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: friend Matt and I, uh, and there were, there were
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: more people there with us, but, um, but he and
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: I were the only ones that were up around the campfire. And, uh,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: the problem with us is like, whatever it was, was
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: trying to scare us out of there. And we're just
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: not scared. We're not going anywhere. We went and grabbed
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: our devices and we stood back to back. We didn't
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: know if we were going to survive the rest of
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: that night, but we weren't, we weren't that scared of it.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: We were just, you know, we were, we were trying
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: to figure out what it was and I guess kind
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: of collect data on it and to survive it, whatever
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: What we were doing. That's, that sounded very reminiscent to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Adam's experience, you know, you know, to a point. Yeah. Oh, really?
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Well, well, I have to talk to Adam then.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk to him because yeah, it was,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: it was, it was really cool. The next day it
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: was really cool, but while it was happening, it wasn't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: very cool. It really wasn't very cool. But it's like,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: this is why I came here. I kept thinking in
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: my head, I was like, this is why I came here.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: I wanted, I wanted this to happen.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: I just didn't know it was going to be this intense. But,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: but that's the thing. Like a lot of people, if you're,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: if you're a big footer, you're going to just assume
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: those were big foot. Right out there. And if you're
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: out there looking for dogmen, you're going to assume it's dogmen.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: And if you're looking for UFOs, you're going to think
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: that it's aliens. It just depends on your perception.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Right, Ed? Absolutely. And I say it all the time
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: when I give presentations and things of that nature. I
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: say it every single time. If you go out looking
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: for evidence of a bear, you're going to find evidence
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: of a bear. If you go out looking for evidence
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: of a Bigfoot, you're going to find evidence of a Bigfoot.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: You're going to find evidence of whatever you're looking for
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: because psychologically you're hyper attentive to that genre or whatever
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: it is you're looking for. You have to, it's okay
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: to be hyper attentive, but turn off that. It's a
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: one track mind thing. Turn that off because not everything
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: you see is going to be Bigfoot. Not everything you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: see is going to be a ghost. Not everything you
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: see is going to be, you know, stay attentive, stay alert.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Just turn off that. Turn off that one track mind spark.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Turn that off because just follow the evidence. Whatever it is,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: it is. I say it. It's like, you know, I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I don't personally. believe that bigfoot can cloak and things
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like that i there's some things that i just don't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: personally believe i've never experienced it that doesn't make me
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: right it just means that's my opinion you know i
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: think it should be investigated and if somebody believes that
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: bigfoot can cloak and by god to all by all
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: means go investigate that and find out you know do
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: it you know people out there getting mad because, Oh,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you believe that you're stupid, you know, blah, blah, blah. That's,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: that's horse trash. You know what I mean? I was
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: going to say something else. That's horse trash. And, uh,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: you know, I get frustrated at people getting mad at
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: people and arguing because of only because of their beliefs.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: And it's like, who cares? Who cares what somebody else believes?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm friends with people who believe things that
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that doesn't make me right. Doesn't make
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: them right either, but it's, Exactly.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: Well, that's why I like to bring people with different
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: opinions and different viewpoints on my show so that we can.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: And I'm not telling anyone they should believe what any
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: of us say. You know, make your form your own
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: opinions on this. But, you know, I like to.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: Bring out a tangent.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I know. I got you excited. I did. I have
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: a tendency to do that with people because you know what?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: You and I both are very, you know, we're passionate
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: about this. Yes, we're passionate. I'm passionate, too. And and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: the things that I like to do are bring out
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: like all the different angles of this and like talking
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: about the cloaking and stuff. I mean, people say, well,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Bigfoot's interdimensional. Well, what in the heck does interdimensional even mean? Like,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: what do you mean they just disappear? They could disappear
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: through a portal or do they change their vibrational frequency
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: or do they just go outside of the light range
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: where us humans can't see them anymore? Or it's our eyes.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: It's not them.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: It's us.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: You know, that kind of stuff. But I mean, we
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: can talk about that stuff in circles all day because like, I, I,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I always bring these things up and I love it.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: I did want to bring this comment up from my friend, Barry.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Barry heard me say that comment about the scalpel. And
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I said, my friend Barry has a scalpel he talks about,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: and I think it's a frequency scalpel. He said, it's
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: called an acoustic scalpel that leaves no cauterized material, also
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: known as ultrasonic or harmonic scalpel. I was close.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So it works on vibration. Is that the idea? Yeah. Okay.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: I guess so. It's ultrasonic. And, uh, and I think
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: that's cool because every time we bring up these cattle mutilations,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: he does mention that, uh, that scalpel, that's something to
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: look into for your next documentary.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah. Yeah. We, we do plan, we do plan
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: on going out there and, and, uh, picking up kind
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: of where we left off, but I know that he's
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: still working. He's still doing his investigations. Uh, and, and,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: but I do want to go out there and actually, uh,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: spend some time and, and, bring in, you know, I
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: hate to say it, but the truth is, you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: bring in cadaver dogs and, and, uh, see if we could, uh,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: you know, in fact, some, uh, you know, some of
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: your remote viewing friends might be able to help with that.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: You know, who knows?
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. I'll help with that.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Sure.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: Uh, we would love that. I have a whole team
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: of remote viewers, actually. I got a lot of friends
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: that do that. And, um, yeah, we, we actually have
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: worked with law enforcement in the past and, uh, and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: sometimes when they run out of options, that's what they
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: like when, when, And I tell this to people sometime,
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: you know, like I've I had a very well-known gentleman
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: who looks into the missing people in our national parks.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: And somebody wrote into him on his show and was like, hey,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: the cryptid huntress was given some remote remote viewing targets
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: on the missing persons clusters in national parks. And this
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: was her data. And, you know, these people are being
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 2: kidnapped and taken to a facility or underground. They're being
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: experimented on and disposed of. And he went nuts and
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 2: like told people not to listen to me and stuff.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: And that's fine. But here's the thing. First of all,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: I didn't ask him or tell him. It's none of
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: his business what I do, honestly. But when you have
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: a missing person, a missing person in your family, a child,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: a parent, a loved one, spouse, sibling, I would exhaust
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: every option I had, including psychics and remote viewers to
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: find that person. And when it comes to things like
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: all these missing persons that we have at these national partners,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: don't you think that people who are like, at the
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: forefront of like, you know, exposing all this, I think
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: that they would use all the options, like exhaust all
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: the options with all the different avenues to find out
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: where these people are going and where are they, you know,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: instead of arguing about it.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I think I know who you're talking about.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: And if it, if it is who I think you're.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Talking about, you know, I heard some, some.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: Things about him as well that he probably wouldn't want to, Oh, no.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: Hey, we're not here.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: It's okay.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: Don't mention it.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Don't mention it.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: I'm not mad at the guy. I love his research.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? But he kind of like
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: defamed me a little bit on his show and was
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: not very nice. I was his biggest fan, just saying.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in his opinion,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: just for the record. Oh, okay. Thank you. Anyway, go ahead.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: But we're talking about the missing people, and there was
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: a psychic brought on to this team. Greg brought the
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: psychic in. And, and I think that's, that's great. She
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: was able to connect with these, with this woman that's there.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: It's actually, I think it was multiple women or was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: just one and they got the name kind of confused,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: like Monica.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was one woman. Yeah. It was
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: one woman, but the first name she got was actually
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: the name of the person posting it on Facebook, not
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the person. It's not the victim itself, you know, and herself,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: I should say. And then later, once they found that
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: post about, you know, the missing people in that area,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: they were able to realize that the person they were
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: talking about was actually this person, you know, and then,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and then it all went from there. It all rolled,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: rolled pretty nicely. Oh, wow.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: Well, it seems as though you guys had, they had
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: some help from the ETs too, with a lot of
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: this information and stuff. And it got kind of dark
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: towards the end there. I'm just going to say, I'm
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: not going to give it away, but it got a
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: little bit dark because it was like, first of all.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: Guess we can kind of bring this up. It seems
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: as though the ETs, the grays that you guys were
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: dealing with out there, we're kind of bringing everybody together
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: on purpose through like elements. I know this sounds kind
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: of weird, but maybe even causing some of, is it
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Greg's or Greg, right? Some of Greg's problems, like health
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: problems and stuff to like get them out there. So,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, it sounds kind of weird for some people,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: but I believe it.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: Almost like they're guiding you together.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. And if in fact he is chosen, then why
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: not give the person you choose more opportunity to get
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: the answers?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: It's wild thinking about, you know, cause I mean, a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: lot of people look at this from like a religious
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: background as well. You know, you mentioned that earlier and
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: it seems as though it kind of goes into the
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: end times. That's something that I bring up on my
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: show a bit because we're talking about from a cryptid
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: standpoint and, and all of the uptick, I believe in
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: like some of these dog man sightings and Bigfoot and stuff.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: And some people think that we're living in revelations right now.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: And and so I don't know, it kind of it
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: kind of progressed into that in this documentary a little bit.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, you just follow the story, you know, and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: that's kind of where the story went. And it's and
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: it's a good story. You know, it's it's it's OK
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: to say, you know, it's time to get right. You know,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: it's time to to, you know, to do what you
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: need to do to get yourself in a position to
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: go where you want to go, you know, get freed up. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, so,
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: you know, the stories, you know, the, the message is good. And, uh,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: whether you, whether you believe in God or not, you know, it's, uh,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you know, the, you know, I, I tell people, cause
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I have my own beliefs, you know,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, I, I do believe in God, but I
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: have my own, I'm not a very, I'm not really religious,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm, you know, I do believe And I tell
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: people all the time, someone will say, well, I don't
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: believe in God. You know, that's crazy. And it's like, well,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: even if God isn't real, aren't the rules that he
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: put in place, aren't they at least make life a
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: little more enjoyable? You know, it's still a good list
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: of rules to follow. You know, it's a good lifestyle.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: I have a question for you. Have you ever had
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: what you would consider to be an alien abduction experience
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: or have you ever seen any ETs yourself?
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: No, I've never had that experience. I've seen things in
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: the sky that I can't explain. So, you know, by
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: all rights, they are unidentified flying objects, but I don't know.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I've never seen anything up close. I've never had an
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: alien experience. I've never been abducted that I'm aware of
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: or anything like that. I know people who, and they
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: have been, but I'm not one of them now. Mm-hmm. Wow.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: You know, because what I'm kind of seeing through pattern
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: recognition here is people, you know, I've had encounters with
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: ETs up close before, at least twice. And it happened
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: after I started doing Bigfoot field research. And here's something
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: that's really interesting, too. You're going to like this. So
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: when I was younger, I would wake up at night
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: and there'd be ghosts in my bedroom, like people that
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: were solid, just like us. wearing like Victorian era clothing
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: and they'd be talking to me telepathically.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: And I'd wake up and I'd be like, what is
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: going on here? These people are talking to me and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: their mouths aren't moving. And, uh, and so, and they
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: would just give me messages and stuff. And, and let's
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 2: fast forward about a decade or two after that. And, uh,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: and I'm waking up and this is after I had
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: started doing the Bigfoot field research and I was having
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: missing time incidences. We were having orbs and triangular crafts
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: floating over our heads and stuff. It was just wild
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: while we're out in the field. even portal activity and
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: all that. And I'm waking up, same scenario, but instead
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: of the Victorian era clothing people standing by my bed,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 2: I have ETs, grays. And they're speaking to me exactly
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: the same way that those people were. And I started thinking, Wow.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: You know, I think what happened, what had happened was,
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: is that when I was younger, what had happened was,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: I think that they were, I think they were probably
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: ETs all along, but they were being projected to me
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: as something that was more like a ghost, something that
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 2: I could understand and not be scared of.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that's very possible. Yeah. I think that's,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and I think that's exactly what we were talking about
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: earlier about the, you know, all these different things are happening.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: I personally believe it's all one thing. thing whatever that
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: thing is i don't know but i think that it
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: has the ability to make you see or think you're
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: seeing whatever you're whatever it wants you to see so
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: yeah i i believe that well that's interesting that's.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: Good do you think we could live in a holographic universe.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: There's a rabbit hole yeah yeah yeah there's a How
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: long is this show?
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: I know, right? We could go on forever. No, I'm
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: just kidding.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, is it possible? Yeah. I mean,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: there are things that are happening, you know, that defy explanation.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: And you can't deny they're happening. You know, I mean,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: you know, shoot, think about it. 30 years ago, if
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: you were Catholic and you thought UFOs were real or
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: aliens were real, you were going to hell. You know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: that's just the way they believe. Now, even the Pope
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: says it's okay. It's okay to believe in aliens. It's okay.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: You know why? Because the time has changed. You know,
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: we're seeing them. We're getting, you know, the governments are
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: getting involved. You know, it's becoming not so much like
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: in Bigfoot, for example, usually it's people like you and I,
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: you know, who are doing the investigations. And there's a
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: ton of people out there who aren't trained to collect
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: evidence and things of that nature, you know? And, you know,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: So when they come in and I get so frustrated,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: I just went off track. See, here I am, the
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: passion again. But gosh, I literally lost where I was
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: originally going.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Well, we're just talking about being a holographic universe and
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: just having the government releasing the information on ETs and everything.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Yes. So it's making it more mainstream is what was
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: my point. Yes.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 2: Well, the Catholic church, you know, actually with some of
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: their robes and some of this, what do you call them?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Sashes and stuff. They have, they have like crop circle
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: ETs and stuff on there. Like some of the petroglyphs
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: are on there. Why, why is that in that odd?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's a, it's
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: something to think about. Absolutely. You know, yeah.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: Well, they, they also have reptilian snake robes. amphitheaters and
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: stuff too or whatever. Concert halls, whatever that is. I digress.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: It's a strange world. It is a strange world, isn't it?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: What do you think about the government and the U.S.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: government releasing the information on aliens that exist that have
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: been confirmed out of crashed spacecraft and things like that?
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: I think they said it was insectoids. Which, Mama Sue,
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: by the way, encountered one of those. Insectoids, reptilians, greys,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: and the Nordics, I think, or tall whites or something
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think my personal opinion is they
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: had to. You know, I'm not, we'll say, proud of
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: them for doing it. I'm saying, yeah, they had to.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: When they start shooting down UFOs in Alaska, and I'm
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: sure you heard about that, right? You know, it goes
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: all over the world, you know. Uh, it's, it's been
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: a little while back now. It's probably been seven or
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: eight years ago, but yeah, they shot down a couple flying, um,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: we'll just say UFOs in Alaska. And, uh, and yeah, they, uh,
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, well, you know, people know about it.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: So I guess it's time to, you know, we can't
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: hide it anymore is their thought, you know? So yeah,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: I think that that's why they're releasing stuff saying, okay,
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: we're going to show that we're transparent, you know, by
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: doing something we have to do that's, which is silly,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: There are aliens among us. I like to say, Hey,
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: there are people that come into my chat rooms and
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: stuff during the shows that have confided in me outside
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: of the shows that they actually are like werewolves and
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: things like that, you know? And, and so we do,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: like I said, we live in an interesting world amongst
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: a lot of diverse, different races of people and creatures
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: and whatever. Yeah.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yes.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I think that there's, there's probably more hybrids out
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: there as well. You know, I come from a, I'm
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: not saying I'm one.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that, but I know.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: But my, well, I don't know. I don't know anymore.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know anything about, I don't know nothing about nothing. Remember? But, um,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: but I, you know, my great grandmother and my great
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: aunt had an ET abduction experience. I think now they
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: didn't attribute to that. They said that, um, a light
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: came down over their car and they had missing time
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: while they were driving down the highway. And they, they
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: came to, and they were like a County over and
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: it was like an hour, something later. And they were
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: 20 miles down the road. They didn't know how they
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: got there. They said it was angels that took them
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: out of harm's way. That's what they told everybody when
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: they taught, they wouldn't talk about it.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: I will tell you, I 1 million percent believe that.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: And I, I had a very similar experience that, To
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: this day, still, still, I can't understand it. And it's,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I don't mind talking about it, but it's like hard
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 1: to talk about because I can't express things the way
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: I want to, you know, and because I don't know
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: what happened, but it was, it was, I'll just say
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: I should be dead right now. And my, and I,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: I personally believe that I died and that my consciousness
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: just went to a different ultimate, you know, universe, you know,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: just went to a different, you know, person, you know
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And I, I truly believe that. I truly,
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: truly believe that.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: Ooh, you know, I had a really interesting conversation about
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: trauma in relation to like experiencing trauma in relation to
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: the paranormal experiences that we have. And Katie page and I,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: a long time ago had a really good conversation about that.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: And we were talking about the, a lot of us
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: that have like, that are really in tune to the
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: paranormal and the supernatural around us. We've had a lot
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: of trauma in our lives. I mean, who hasn't, honestly?
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying. Who hasn't? But some of us have
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: had more than others. I think. And, uh, and so
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: I wonder if there's a connection with like us being
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: able to see that and, and near that near death
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: experiences like you've had, I've had several myself, Ed, uh,
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: I should not be here right now. I should not.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: I think I've died many times.
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: I believe the same thing. I believe you died many times. No,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: I believe I have. I have died many times. It's
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: like Quantum Leap. What is that? Quantum Jump or Quantum Leap,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: whatever that show was.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that?
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: That was a good show.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: Love that show. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: That's my last story in my life.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know why they ever took that off the air.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: That show could have gone on forever.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: It was too much disclosure, probably. Time travelers and all that. Yeah.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Art imitates life sometimes. Yes. Maybe that's the truth. You know,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine that came on the
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: show a while back named Tom Springer. Tom came on
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: and he he was actually he believes that he has
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: a walk in soul in his body. And and that's
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: a walk in where, you know, he was he went
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: through a lot of trauma. And in the military, he
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: was a sniper. And he came up. He came home.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: I guess he was overseas. Came home. He's really depressed.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: And I don't I think it is his soul. the
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: way he described it, I think it was like his
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: soul just couldn't want to be here anymore. You know,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: it had enough. So there's almost like an agreement with,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know where it depends on what you believe in. Okay. But, but,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: but there was an agreement to where another soul would
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: take over and finish out his mission here on this earth. So,
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: so he believes that. And I've talked to many people
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: who believe that they probably have a walk in soul
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: in their body. So I, I find it fascinating that,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: All this stuff. But I don't know. I don't think
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: I've had walking souls, but who knows? Who knows?
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: It's the first time I've heard of that. Yeah. So
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't have an opinion on it yet or anything
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: like that. But if all this other stuff is true,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: like I do suspect, then why would that not be? Exactly.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Why is that not possible?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: That's right. Well, you do paranormal investigations, too. And I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: know you've got another documentary.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: Our mutual friend, Mr. Greg Ogles, Mr. Moist himself.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Mr. Moist himself.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Greg, I was in Greg's documentary about the missing
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Dennis Martin case. And he interviewed me about that. Well,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: you just did another documentary with him recently.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Tell me about that. Where did y'all go?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we did. Basically, it was it was Adam Davies.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 1: It was Melissa Adair. Natalie Spearman and of course Greg
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 1: and then myself and Tabitha Moore and we were we'd
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: gone to three different locations in three different nights and
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: these were all three paranormal hot spots and the idea
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: of the documentary is that you know Melissa who was
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: a little skeptical of the whole paranormal aspect of things
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: we wanted to give her an opportunity to experience something
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: and we'll say it was a lot of fun and
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: I would say she did. Oh man.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Where were y'all at? It looked like you were at
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: an octagon house or something.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: One of those. We were, we spent one night. It's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: in Kentucky, but we spent one night in the octagon hall,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: which is in Franklin, Kentucky. Um, then we went to
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: the Thomas house, which is a really weird name here,
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: but red boiling Springs, Tennessee. Um, and that was, that's
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: an interesting place. I've been there several times and I've
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: had some pretty cool experiences there. So we went there.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: And then we also went to a place called the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: night house, which is in, it's also in Kentucky. Oh,
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 1: what's the name of that town? I can't remember the
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: name of the town, but yeah, it was in, but
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: it was also in Kentucky. So we went to those
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: three locations. We three nights, one night, each place and
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: had a, had a really good time. Everybody was great
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: by the way.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Well, was it, did you spend the night
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: in those places? Like stay there all night or?
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, close. Yeah. You know, we will see
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: the Thomas House, we did. The Night House, I think
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: they did. I think, you know, Tabitha and I left
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: when the shoot was done, and I think the team
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: stayed there overnight. You know, the stars of it, I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: think they stayed there overnight. And so, yeah, but the
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: Thomas House, no, we didn't. Or, I mean, the Octagon Hall,
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: we did not spend the night, no. Oh gosh.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: What's the scariest place you've ever researched in?
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. You know, that property in Florida probably
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: has had, um, I've had a couple of experiences that probably,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: you know, I, I'm not too afraid to say it
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: and say it, you know, like, wow, like you, I
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: don't run from anything, but it doesn't mean I don't
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: get scared. And I've had some experiences there that, yeah,
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: that was, uh, uh, pretty terrifying, but I, I actually,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I guess the thing that scared me the most was
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: probably the, the two bluff charges, one in, one in, uh,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Washington at the Brown property, uh, Sarah and Jonathan Brown
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: were the, the, um, what is that? Uh, Harbor, the
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Grace Harbor video was taken. I was on their property
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: and went out there. We were hanging out and he
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: got a bluff charge there and then had another one
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: in Oregon. And, uh, that's probably the thing that scared
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: me the most. Yeah. So yeah. And that's, those are terrifying. Terrifying.
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: What was it, like an alpha Bigfoot or something? What
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: do you think that was? Bigfoot?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: All I can tell you is when you hear it,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: it sounds like... The first time it happened, I truly,
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: truly believed that when we turned around and looked to
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: the left, because it came from our left, both times
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: from the left, oddly enough, but when it came at us,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: I truly, truly believed I was going to look up
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: and see a moose running at us through the woods.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: That's what it sounded like. I mean, it was... branches
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: being pushed and, and like falling things fall. It was
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: absolutely insane how loud it was. And I, and you know,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: in fact, Sarah Brown was to my left when that
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: happened and she grabbed my arm so tight that I
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: still have fingernail marks in my arm. And that was
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: years ago. No, I don't really have that, but it was,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: it was, it scared the bejeebus out of us. That's
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah. It was scary.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, that sounds like a good time. I mean, probably.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And the, and the other one, I was
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: by myself, actually, I, I, we were on an investigation
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: with other people where there were two other people there,
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Dan Lindholm and, and this, uh, film guy. And we
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 1: had gone, I had, we caught something on FLIR that looked,
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been a squirrel fall. I knew,
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: but it was something in this tree. That was just
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: like really weird. So I'm like, well, I'm going to
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 1: walk over that way. I didn't take a flashlight. I
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: had no weapons. I had nothing, nothing on me whatsoever. Uh,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: The only thing I had on me was a walkie talkie.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: That was it. And they were telling me, well, the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: film guy was telling me, it's like, you know, go straight,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: just go a little bit to your right, go straight,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, this and that. And I go into this
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: clearing and it's a really long story, but I'll make
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: this just this part about the bluff charge. But I
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: get into the clearing and I am literally standing in
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: the pitch dark with no flashlight, no, absolutely nothing except
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: a walkie talkie. and it happened again, something came running
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 1: at me towards the woods. And it's like, as soon
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: as it gets within view, like where I could see it,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: it just stops. So I never saw it either time. Um,
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: I was, I was talking about that in a, in
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: a presentation and Dr. Pyle, Dr. Robert Pyle, I don't
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: know if you know him or not. Super, super nice guy. Um,
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: he was, uh, he was the inspiration of the movie. Um, uh, Oh,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: the great divide, you know, the, uh, that's his life story.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: That's a true story. So anyway, he was listening to
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: me in this presentation and he says, he says, now, Ed,
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: I have a question. I said, all right. And he said,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: did you, did it like huff? And did you, did you,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: did you, no, he said, he said, could it have
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: been a bear? And I said, well, usually when a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 1: bear or an animal comes, actually you hear them, you know,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: you hear the noises and they want to scare you.
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. And I said, there was none
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: of that. There was no sound other than the trees
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: and stuff being, being pushed aside. It was, it's pretty crazy.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: It's scary.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: Oh, that is, that is kind of scary. That's very
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: scary actually. And I actually, okay. So I had an
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: incident up in North Georgia one night. I had a
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: couple of friends with me that I'd taken up to
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: one of them, a really good spot. We have a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: lot of Bigfoot activity and, and we got out of
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: the car, got out of the car. We're just kind
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: of like hanging out and, you know, it's a place
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: where I've always had activity. And I don't think that
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: the Bigfoots out there like that I had strangers out there.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: And you know how that works. You know, you get
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: to kind of know your areas and the Bigfoots know.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: You, I guess.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know them very well, but they know me apparently.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: And so we got out there and at some point
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: we were seeing like orange orbs or like orange flashes
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 2: of light going through the trees. We called them orbs
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: because they did kind of look like orbs. But my
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: buddy Matt saw them go behind me and then I
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: was watching behind him and I saw some go in
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: the tree line. And right as this one yellow orb
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: kind of goes through the trees, I hear a hoof.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: It was like a growl and a huff at the
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: same time, but we had not heard anything before that.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: We didn't hear anything after that. And we immediately thought,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 2: I knew it was probably a Bigfoot because it happened right,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just was right there where the Bigfoots
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: are always at. And, but we turn on our flashlights,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: which we never do because we thought it could be
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: a bear. It sounded like it could be a bear,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: but I don't think it was a bear, Ed. There's
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: no way that was a bear. We ended up, almost immediately,
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 2: it started raining really hard for, it came out of nowhere.
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: It's like we were being forced out of the area.
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: Huh. forced out have you ever had that happen i've
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: had the oddly enough the exact opposite you know where
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: uh yeah with dan and i went to a place
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: in oregon that i'm convinced anyway that no one had
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 1: no one's walked on that property ever in that piece
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: of land at any time ever moss was like this
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: thick it was like walking on a on a mattresses
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: you know it was like insane and uh something seemed
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: to keep luring us farther and farther in, you know,
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: we would hear something, we'd go look at it and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: then go a little bit further and then a little
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 1: bit further, a little bit further. So yeah, it was,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: so I've had the exact opposite happen. That's just trying
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: to bring us closer as opposed to pushing us away. Yeah.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Oh, wow. That's wild. Well, I mean, we've, I've been
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 2: lured into places too.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I've, I've, I've had a lot
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: of experiences, but That was one of the strangest ones.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 2: And there was a lot of other activity included with that, too.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: It wasn't just like Bigfoot. When we were leaving, we
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 2: had like an owl that swooped down in front of
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 2: the car. And it looked like we were going to
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: hit the owl. And it turned sideways, slow motion, and
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: stared at all three of us.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: Slow motion. It was weird. It was so weird. We just, oh, man.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: That is weird.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: It is weird. It's like a, another mutilation ranch. I
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: don't think anything's been mutilated up there. Not that I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: know of, but, uh, at least we made it out
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: of there. We made it out of there alive. As
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: far as I know.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, thank you. I'm glad you did.
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: Oh man.
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Hey, you and I are still ticking. We're still kicking.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: We're still here. We're still, well, I mean, I'm getting old.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: I always say I'm getting old.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: Okay. Trust me. I'm, Oh, yeah.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: But hey, you know what? Do you have any more
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: things planned? I mean, I've got more plans to get
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: out in the field all the time. There's no stopping me.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 2: I'm still going to be out there. What about you?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: You got more stuff coming up?
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah. I mean, we do plan on getting back
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: out to Colorado and doing a part two for the
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: Friends in the Sky. And it's going to probably start off...
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: in the past again and put in some of the
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: things that we've, that we wish we'd had time for
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: in the first one and then go into, uh, the, um,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: the investigation or not the investigation, I'm sorry, but go
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: into the, uh, looking for the, you know, the remains. Uh,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: we feel like that's something that we, we really have
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: to do, you know? So, um, we, we, we're going
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: to make plans for that. We haven't set a date yet,
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: but that's going to be on the agenda. Um, you know,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 1: I've got, uh, Gosh, what have I got coming up here? Man,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be speaking at a conference in Indiana
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: for Greg Yost, his conference in Indiana. That's going to
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. That's coming up in February.
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: Really looking forward to that. But yeah, so, you know,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: stay busy, stay busy. And I'm sure I'll be out
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: doing some investigations from time to time and doing this
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: and that and keeping my hands dirty. Got to do that.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Well, I have your, the video is up
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 2: on the screen right now.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 2: This is the, I'm going to say a flyer for it,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 2: but okay. Let's see. This is on, what website is this?
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: This is with, oh yeah, Big Truth.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: That's on Big Truth, yeah.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: That's on Big Truth. So you actually have, you have
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of interviews on Big Truth, don't.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: You, Ed? Yeah, I talk to a lot of people.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: You do.
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: Sit down with Ed Brown, y'all. Y'all go check out
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: his playlist.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Yes. I noticed you made that connection there in the introduction.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: That was great. I loved it.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: I had to. I had to. Of course, I got
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: to sit down with Ed Brown. You're very well known
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: for that, actually. And you've done some fantastic interviews. You've
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: interviewed some of the biggest names and the best researchers
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: out there in the Bigfoot field.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I won't say, I think everybody is the best researcher.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: I truly do. I mean, you know, unless, as long
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 1: as you're going out and you're looking, then... You're important.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: You know, what you find is important and what you're
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: doing is important. You know, I don't necessarily care much
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: for the opinion of the people who sit at home
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: and do stuff on Facebook and say, oh, well, you know,
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: I'm an investigator. Well, what are you investigating? You know,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: you see it all the time. But anyway, yeah, I digress. See,
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: you get me going again. I know.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: Listen, I feel the same. You and I have the
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: same opinions on this stuff, okay? I feel you. See,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: I do interview. I interview a lot of people too, okay? But,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I'm just... I don't know. I I've been
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: a researcher for so long. It's you know, on an
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 2: actual like research teams and stuff. And so I don't know.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: I think that that gives, gives us also an edge
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: when we're interviewing people because we can, we can relate
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: to everybody we bring on our shows for the most part. Right.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: Sure. And it's funny because when I first started doing
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: sit down with Ed Brown, I was always, I always
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: had like a list of questions that I was planning
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: to ask, you know, and then it just, it just
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: didn't at one point I was just going, man, I
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 1: just don't like it. So I just started doing it
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 1: all off the top of my head, you know, like
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 1: wherever the, I would ask one question and then the
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: conversation would take off and you just, it just leads,
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, it is. And I actually love that
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: a lot more. And Bob Gimlin is by far my
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: favorite person in the entire world. I actually put that
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: on Facebook one time. I said, you know, I'm going
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: to go, I'm going to go see Bob Gimlin, my
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: favorite person in the entire world. And my daughter got
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: on there and she said, dad, what about your kids?
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: And I said, sweetheart, we're, we're talking about Bob Gimlin here. So,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: so yeah. So yeah, I had a lot of fun
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: with that show. And I, I, I have a feeling
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: it's coming back. So just, I'm sure. Yes.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 2: You're, I mean, you're really good at interviewing people and
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 2: stuff too. So definitely. What makes you bring that back up?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: Well, because. I'm kidding.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking. And you're an inspiration. Are you trying
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: to interview me?
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: Well, thank you. I was changing.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 2: You're not grilling me today. I'm grilling you. I'm just kidding.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to have to have you on as one
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: of my first guests, I guess.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: I would love that. You are under my interrogation today, Ed.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: I'm game. Bring it on.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: Getting interrogated. Yeah. Who sent you?
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: Okay. That's right. Where were you?
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 2: I know. If y'all can't tell, if the audience can't tell,
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 2: we always have a lot of fun.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: I have fun when Ed's here, y'all. And yeah, we're
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 2: going to have to get out there and do some
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: boots on the ground stuff one day. I want to
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: go out and do some investigating with you.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: We'll do it. We'll plan on that. Okay. Well, in
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 2: the meanwhile, where can everybody find you, Ed? This has
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 2: been absolutely wonderful. Where can they find the videos and
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 2: the documentaries? Spill it.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: So Friends in the Sky is actually available now on Tubi. Um,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: so you can watch it for free, uh, with commercials,
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: of course, but that's all right. You know, that's how,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: that's how they pay for their, their time. Um, definitely
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: looking forward to, we want people to get on and
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 1: watch it and, you know, give us a thumbs up and,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 1: you know, let us, let, let us know you enjoyed it. Uh, um,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: we have, uh, the awakening, which is the documentary with
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: relic films and with Greg Ogles and, uh, that one's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: going to be, I, I believe it's October 28th. It's
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: going to be the premiere for that one. And it's
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: going to be an online premiere, which is awesome. So like,
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: I think it's like just a couple of bucks. You
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 1: can get on and watch it, you know? So, and
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know how much it is by the way,
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying a couple of bucks, but that's going
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun. Yeah. That one's going
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: to be, uh, that one was a lot of fun.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: And then we do have another documentary. As of now,
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: it's going to be titled Portal Creek Investigation. Portal Creek,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: I believe, is what we're going to go with. But
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: that one's, again, it's a nine-year investigation. It's got a
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: ton of things happening in it. I don't know how
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: he's going to fit everything in there. No, he can't.
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: The things that we've seen and had happen there was
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: absolutely mind-blowing and really looking forward to that one. So,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: so yeah, any of those is going to be a
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. And again, let us know
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: you like them and you can find me on Facebook.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: It's a very common name. It's Ed Brown, but you'll
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 1: see like just half my face and all black behind
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: me there. That's a, that's who it is.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: You say you have a common name. My name is
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: Jessica Jones.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: Okay. So I feel you.
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 2: I feel you.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: And my sister's name is Jennifer. Okay. So you can see.
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 2: The most common name you can have from, yeah.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: My family does.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 1: Yes. So what do they call your sister then? Other Jennifer?
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: No, she's just Jennifer. She didn't get, she I'm the oldest. Okay. So,
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 2: so I got the nickname.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 2: So, but, but yeah, well, okay. So you can find
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: the awakened film that, that documentary is going to be
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 2: on relics film media. That's Greg Ogle's website or his
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 2: YouTube channel.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 1: And uh roku and fire oh.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 2: Good well it's also on his youtube channel but y'all
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 2: can find him on yeah that's right roku i forgot
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: they're on roku now that's wonderful and um but then
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: also of course friends in the sky you guys can
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 2: find that all over as well is that on roku
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: as well or.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: No as well it's on to be there it's on
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: a couple other locations too but i'm not real familiar
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 1: with I know it's some YouTube thing that you can,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: like a pay-per-view type thing on YouTube, which I just
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: tell people, go to Tubi. It's there. It's fun to watch,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: and it's a good watch.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: And also on Big Truth on YouTube. That's where I
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: had that. that pulled up, y'all, so you can find
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 2: it there as well.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably just the commercial, but who knows?
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Maybe Dan got it somehow. Maybe Dan put it up
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: on his YouTube. I don't know.
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: I watched it through YouTube last night. Okay, I don't
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: know if it was on your channel or it was
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 2: on another channel, but I found it on YouTube. Yeah,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: that's where I found it, so I don't know.
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: I should have looked to send me that link. I'm
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: curious now. Really?
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I'll send it to you after the show.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: Okay. Sweet. Yeah.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: That's where I found it.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: So, all right. So in, in your interviews, you can
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: find those, those are on big truth on YouTube.
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 1: So if you guys want to go see some of my, yeah,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 1: big truth, one word, big truth, one word. Uh, yeah, that's, uh,
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: and it's not just my stuff. It's also follow some
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: of Dan's investigations, uh, uh, out in the woods and, and,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: you know, some really good, good research videos, uh, the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: best before and after comparison pictures I've ever seen Dan,
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 1: Dan put out there. It's absolutely amazing. In fact, I'm
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: going to post that on my Facebook today. I think
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: just going to go in there and find that and
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: post it on my Facebook because it's amazing. It's a
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 1: really good, it's crazy. Sweet.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. I capitalized the T in truth. It's really
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 2: not capitalized y'all. I just did that so you could
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: see it's two words, but it's one.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: So, so big truth on YouTube. And so, Ed, thank
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: you so much for being here today. And thank you
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 2: for sharing all the information on Mutilation Ranch with us today.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: That was wild. Thanks for having me on. Of course.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: As always.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: You're welcome anytime. You're welcome anytime. And I want to
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 2: say rest in peace to Mama Sue. Oh, man, that's
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: so sad.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: She was honestly, I didn't know her real well, but
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: I knew her well enough to know that she was
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: an amazing woman. She's going to be greatly missed. She
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: is greatly missed. It's not going to be. She is
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 1: greatly missed, definitely.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm glad that she got to be a part
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: of that documentary before.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And she got to see it before she passed
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: away as well. So she got to see the, before
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: it actually came out and Tubi and all that, she
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: actually got to see it before she passed away. So
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: we're very, we're very happy about that. Oh my gosh.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: I love that. And, and the information, but the information
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 2: that you put out in that documentary is so important
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: and it does connect the dots. And that's what I'd
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 2: love to do here on my, my channel, the Cryptid
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: Hunter channel. I connect dots. We all connect dots over here. And, um,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: and I, I commend you guys for, for putting that
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 2: out there to the public, even when you thought it
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: might be a little too much, it's not, it's what,
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: it's what the world needs right now.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: You go where it's at. That's right. You film what's happening. Period.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: That's right. Well, Ed, please come back and see me. Okay.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. Anytime.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much. All right. Perfect.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: All right, everybody. Well, thank you all so much for
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: being here today. I want to thank everybody who gave
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: super stickers, of course, uh, this afternoon and for all
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: your support in Geneva, Maureen and Gus and Catherine, thank
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: you guys so much for your support. And thank you
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: to all my moderators for being here today. And you guys,
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: please come back and see me tomorrow night, 8 PM.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: We'll have a remote viewing show for you guys live.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: All right, y'all have a great day. Everybody, please stay
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: safe out there. Keep your head on a swivel and
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: don't live in fear.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: See ya. Thank you, Ed.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 1: Bye y'all. Thank you. Thank you.