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Alexander Zverev Defeats Flavio Cobolli for His First Grand Slam Title _ Roland-Garros 2026 · Bleacher Report

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  Speaker 1: The burden has been lifted, the questions have ended, and
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  Speaker 1: the title that always felt just out of reach is
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  Speaker 1: now in the hands of Sasha Svera, a moment many
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  Speaker 1: thought would not come. It was a draw that opened
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  Speaker 1: up wide as the week went on, and he really
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  Speaker 1: never falters, finding his way back. In the fifth set,
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  Speaker 1: you can see that emotional relief Kaboli.
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  Speaker 2: Standing behind him.
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  Speaker 1: But this moment, this moment belongs to Verev. There's a
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  Speaker 1: moment that he will cherish for quite some time. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: just outside Musketeer Square and is opening up now, But
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  Speaker 1: it was packed moments ago, and I'm joined by the best.
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  Speaker 1: I got Isner, Query Stevens, I got Jim Currier, Adam Lefko.
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  Speaker 3: Here.
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  Speaker 2: We are awaiting him.
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  Speaker 1: Any moment, Sasha Verev, we will talk to him, but
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  Speaker 1: we captured some of those biggest moments to relive.
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  Speaker 2: How and why Shah.
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  Speaker 4: This chant in his highlights. We're starting right in the
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  Speaker 4: fourth set. This is where everything took place. That was
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  Speaker 4: a set point for Kapol.
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  Speaker 2: He kind of.
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  Speaker 4: Missed time that jump, but he bounced right back the
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  Speaker 4: next set point on Zverev. Sert comes up with this
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  Speaker 4: four hand of the line to take that four set.
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  Speaker 3: I thought he might have celebrated a little too much
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  Speaker 3: at the end of that four set, because he seemed
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  Speaker 3: a little bit when if this returned by Zverev in
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  Speaker 3: the first game in the fifth set to get the
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  Speaker 3: break was the excellent The excellent turn has short of
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  Speaker 3: forced that mistake from Koboli, but this break point right
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  Speaker 3: here to get it back to deuce and eventually able
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  Speaker 3: to consolidate this break and go up to zero, I
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  Speaker 3: think that definitely settled it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that second game is Verev up and break.
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  Speaker 4: He started that game double fault, double fault, was able
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  Speaker 4: to climb out of a hole with that backhand like
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  Speaker 4: we saw him, it was off to the races. And
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  Speaker 4: this was also a massive point right here. This is
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  Speaker 4: for Koboli to get on the scoreboard at three one.
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  Speaker 4: S Vern showing off the defensive skills and there were
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  Speaker 4: a couple of missed overheads late in this match that
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  Speaker 4: didn't work out well for Koboli.
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  Speaker 5: Ya.
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  Speaker 3: Kaboli actually throughout this match sort of struggled with this
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  Speaker 3: with his overhead, but credit to Zverev, his fitness and
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  Speaker 3: his wheels deep in this fifth set looked so good
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  Speaker 3: calmest a carbon copy of that last point we saw
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  Speaker 3: on match point. Boom, there's the elation, there's a relief crout.
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  Speaker 3: Sanders verebehog what a moment it was.
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  Speaker 1: So did you think he had it after losing the
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  Speaker 1: tiebreaker of before now?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: I thought Koboli was going to be able to ride
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  Speaker 6: it from there. I mean even when Coboli played that
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  Speaker 6: shockingly for game to open the fifth set.
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  Speaker 2: Like Zam said, Zverev was super shaky.
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  Speaker 6: In his first service game had the break point, he
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  Speaker 6: had an unforced error on top of the double faults.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the match summaries.
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  Speaker 6: Vereb always serves great high first serve percentage.
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  Speaker 2: The double faults they didn't cost.
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  Speaker 6: Him, thankfully, and he was able to just manage his.
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  Speaker 2: Way once he got that lead.
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  Speaker 6: You could almost see in those two break points, including
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  Speaker 6: the championship point, the pure determination that Zverev has. You
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  Speaker 6: can talk all you want about the numbers, but I
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  Speaker 6: think that was an illustration of just how determined Sloan
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  Speaker 6: he was to get that title today.
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  Speaker 7: He was absolutely determined, and we saw it, the nerves,
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  Speaker 7: everything that went into it, the emotions. You could see
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  Speaker 7: that his body was just so hence, and there was not.
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  Speaker 7: It wasn't because he wasn't in shape. It was just
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  Speaker 7: simply because he was so stressed out. He wanted to
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  Speaker 7: win so badly, and both guys did. And again after
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  Speaker 7: the fourth set, I was like, oh, it's definitely turning
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  Speaker 7: the other way. That was a little bit scary, But
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  Speaker 7: I think for him, he probably just in his mind
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  Speaker 7: was like I lost a set and he.
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  Speaker 2: Just flushed it.
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  Speaker 7: And that was clearly what we saw. He started off
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  Speaker 7: amazing in the fifth set and he just say rock
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  Speaker 7: solid from there on out, not a ton of emotion,
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  Speaker 7: not a bunch of screaming, just literally solid and he
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  Speaker 7: just played and losing a tie break is not something
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  Speaker 7: he has done.
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  Speaker 2: He won twelve in a.
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  Speaker 1: Row twenty here at Rolling Garos. What a performance from
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  Speaker 1: Flavio Koboli, also stepping up his level when it mattered.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he didn't go as down the line as much
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  Speaker 1: as we thought he would. But you guys commenting on Zverev,
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  Speaker 1: the amount he was sweating, you went, this is uncommon.
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  Speaker 1: Him cramping, that was uncommon. It kept feeling, oh no,
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  Speaker 1: here we go.
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  Speaker 2: And yet he battled all of those deeds.
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  Speaker 4: You could see the sweat stain on his shirt the
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  Speaker 4: entire fourth and fifth set, and the end of that
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  Speaker 4: fourth obviously so stressful right the way it played out,
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  Speaker 4: But after he lost that four set, the runway then
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  Speaker 4: extends a little bit. In that fifth set, he did
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  Speaker 4: seem to settle himself. Luckily for him, he got the
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  Speaker 4: break out of the gate and he didn't have to
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  Speaker 4: go through another stressful situation really, and it's that next
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  Speaker 4: service game right after that. But then after that he
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  Speaker 4: was pretty steady and pretty calm throughout the rest of
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  Speaker 4: that fifth.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he just stayed so composed as we
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  Speaker 3: talked about after that fourth set, and as Jim said,
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  Speaker 3: this was a huge pivotal fork in the road moment
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  Speaker 3: for him. If he unravels in that this set, he
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  Speaker 3: may never recover. But credit to him, he kept it
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  Speaker 3: together mentally. Then his body started to cooperate as well.
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  Speaker 3: Once he kind of kept together minutally, got sort of
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  Speaker 3: rid of that nervous energy he was experiencing in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth set.
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  Speaker 1: Any questions about the pills that he was given there,
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  Speaker 1: the way it was delivered, or is that just hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're delivering some electrolytes to our player.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, they looked like those little energy tablets
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  Speaker 6: that a lot of the European players have, like little
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  Speaker 6: sucrose tablets, a little sugar pills.
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  Speaker 2: Effectively, he definitely for the moment, was hurting.
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  Speaker 6: It's pretty unusual to see someone from the team leave
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  Speaker 6: the box and come court side, but there's nothing untoured
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  Speaker 6: about it. It's obviously you know that the trainer could
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  Speaker 6: have taken them and handed them to them, which is
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  Speaker 6: what I was expecting to happen. That was the only
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  Speaker 6: odd thing was that the trainers didn't intervene. But you know, Zverev,
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  Speaker 6: thankfully for him, in that fifth set, his body seemed
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  Speaker 6: to relax, and maybe it was the lead that allowed
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  Speaker 6: him to relax because we we I think we all
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  Speaker 6: agree we've seen him play a lot. He plays as
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  Speaker 6: long as you want, and he doesn't cramp. This guy
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  Speaker 6: is incredibly fit, knows how to manage his energy levels
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  Speaker 6: out there. But stress is a debilitating factor and we
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  Speaker 6: saw I think both of them. I think we're dealing
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  Speaker 6: with that because they both came in very fresh. You know,
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  Speaker 6: well he didn't even play a semi final, so but
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  Speaker 6: the energy, mental energy that you can spend that I
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  Speaker 6: can sap you pretty quickly.
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  Speaker 1: It was an incredible moment for him to overcome all
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  Speaker 1: of those emotions. It was incredible to think of all
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  Speaker 1: the years past, what he had to have on his shoulders.
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  Speaker 2: To eventually lift that trophy. And the man is joining
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  Speaker 2: us now.
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  Speaker 1: Sasha Zverev, congratulations on this slam. I have to ask
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  Speaker 1: you four years ago on this play, you suffer that
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  Speaker 1: ankle injury. Two years ago you had the finish line
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  Speaker 1: in your sights and Alcoraz able to take it.
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  Speaker 2: But today today you hold that trophy. What does it
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  Speaker 2: mean to get it done? On Shatrie, I mean's the world.
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  Speaker 5: As you said, this court has been with some of
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  Speaker 5: my most special memories, but some of my biggest heartbreaks.
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  Speaker 5: You know, laying on the floor with seven broken ligaments
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  Speaker 5: and you know, two fractured bones, and then also losing
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  Speaker 5: the final two years ago here against Carlos. These are
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  Speaker 5: all tough moments that that that you remember. And I
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  Speaker 5: felt like throughout to two weeks I was managing my
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  Speaker 5: emotions extremely well. I was playing well in important moments.
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  Speaker 5: I felt like today I didn't. I was a lot
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  Speaker 5: more nervous. I feel like the match was a lot
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  Speaker 5: more up and down from my side, But at the
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  Speaker 5: end of the day, the most important thing was the
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  Speaker 5: fifth set, and I won that and I'm happy to
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  Speaker 5: be holding.
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  Speaker 6: This Sasha Jim Currier here, I want to know about
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  Speaker 6: the emotional journey within the match for you there. All
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  Speaker 6: players have lots of conversations with themselves during the quiet
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  Speaker 6: moments on the court, especially after the fourth set.
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  Speaker 2: What did you have to tell yourself to get through
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  Speaker 2: this match? And congratulate kind of by the way, thank you? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what kind of helped me.
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  Speaker 5: It kind of helped me mentally that I was cramping
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  Speaker 5: a bit, and I was cramping because of emotional effort.
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't cramping because of physical effort. I haven't cramped
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  Speaker 5: in probably ten years. And I was very nervous. I
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  Speaker 5: was very kind of tightened up. And then once I cramped,
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  Speaker 5: I relaxed and that helped me and I feel like
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  Speaker 5: I played better in the fifth set. I played more free,
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  Speaker 5: I played more aggressive, and yeah, today I actually think
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  Speaker 5: that I wont be goow of the cramps.
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  Speaker 7: Pay Sash and grads.
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  Speaker 2: It's Sloan here.
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  Speaker 7: I had a question about the fourth set. So you
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  Speaker 7: haven't lost a tiebreak here in forever losing the fourth
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  Speaker 7: set and a tibreaker going into the what was your
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  Speaker 7: mindset and how did you reset yourself?
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  Speaker 5: It really helped me that he left for bathroom break
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  Speaker 5: and I kind of had five minutes because my legs
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  Speaker 5: kind of you know, it's it's got better. It was
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  Speaker 5: not cramping as much. And then, as I said, I
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  Speaker 5: was a lot more relaxed. I was a lot more
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  Speaker 5: free in my head in the fifth set than I
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  Speaker 5: wasn't an entire four set. And yeah, again, I think
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  Speaker 5: I played probably my best set of the final, which
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  Speaker 5: was my fifth set.
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  Speaker 4: Sasha, Sam here, well done, congratulations. When that final overhead
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  Speaker 4: went long, off Sam, Sam.
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  Speaker 5: Quarry, Sam query, why are you on this channel? You
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  Speaker 5: got like all champions and then you got Sam Querry?
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  Speaker 3: What is he doing?
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  Speaker 2: John? Is there a champion? Wow?
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  Speaker 4: My question is when that final overhead went long, did
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  Speaker 4: you feel more relief from within or more excitement?
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  Speaker 5: First of all, I'm very happy that I'm holding this
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  Speaker 5: because you said old never will. So thank you very
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  Speaker 5: much for your confidence. Just for the people that don't know,
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  Speaker 5: we have a love hate relationship with Sam and and
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  Speaker 5: and I actually I actually love it.
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  Speaker 2: I enjoy it.
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  Speaker 5: So I love giving you a hard time, but no,
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  Speaker 5: I was I was kind of in a state where
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  Speaker 5: I was ready to keep playing, funny enough. But then
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  Speaker 5: I saw my box and they all raised their hands
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  Speaker 5: in the air, and I was like, Okay, it's over.
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  Speaker 2: I I won.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a Grand Slam champion, And yeah, I was relief.
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  Speaker 5: It was it was all the emotions that all came together.
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  Speaker 3: Alex Is John here, congratulations, tying to you John anytime.
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  Speaker 3: I love this guy, seriously, congratulations an unbelievable effort out
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  Speaker 3: there today. How is this win going to affect your
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  Speaker 3: freedom as a player going forward the rest of your career?
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  Speaker 6: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's definitely a huge stone that kind
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  Speaker 5: of is back, you know, gone from my from my shoulders.
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  Speaker 5: I do feel like now looking back, if I probably
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  Speaker 5: would have lost this final up, maybe would have never
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  Speaker 5: won him Slam. But now that I've won this, it
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  Speaker 5: kind of changes. I feel more free. I feel like
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  Speaker 5: I've done it and maybe in a way I can
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  Speaker 5: enjoy these Grand Slams more. Maybe I can enjoy these
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  Speaker 5: finals a bit more, play my best tennis, and hopefully
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  Speaker 5: this is just the start.
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  Speaker 1: The first German Man to win a major since Boris
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  Speaker 1: Becker thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 2: Sasha s Verev, congratulations.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you guys, thank you very much, well done.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Notes for Sam Sam, I still love you.
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  Speaker 2: Don't thank you. It's easy.
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  Speaker 5: I love you when I'm holding this.
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  Speaker 2: But I still love it.
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  Speaker 6: Now Yasha has won a major, he can't come on
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  Speaker 6: your podcast, So.
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  Speaker 2: I think the.
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  Speaker 1: Most interesting line he said there was I won this
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  Speaker 1: because of cramp, and I think that had a double entendre.
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  Speaker 1: He won it because it freedom up tonight, and you
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  Speaker 1: want it because Yanic cramped about.
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  Speaker 2: A week and a half ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from the moment tonight,
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  Speaker 1: but it's so interesting that cramping, which made us all
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  Speaker 1: nervous there in the green room, it freed him up.
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  Speaker 2: How does that happen? Why does that free up a champion.
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  Speaker 6: It's like if you've got a bad problem with your
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  Speaker 6: ankle and you bang your thumb, you're not thinking about
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  Speaker 6: your ankle anymore. He had a head problem, and now
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  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, he's thinking about my body in
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  Speaker 6: my legs, and can I actually move around and do
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  Speaker 6: the things instead of oh my god, why can't I
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  Speaker 6: move around and do things, So in a way it
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  Speaker 6: was the perfect distraction for him to get free and listen.
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  Speaker 6: I hope he is free the rest of his career
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  Speaker 6: to play the way that he wants to. And I'm
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  Speaker 6: glad that in many ways that stone is off of
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  Speaker 6: his back, because that would have been a tough one
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  Speaker 6: to lose.
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  Speaker 4: It was also interesting he mentioned that Koboli after the
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  Speaker 4: fourth set took a bathroom break. It gave him five
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  Speaker 4: minutes to sit on the bench recollect his thoughts. Because
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  Speaker 4: Coboli had all the momentum, all of that. I was
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  Speaker 4: actually surprised Kabuli went to the restroom, right, You think
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  Speaker 4: he'd want to sit down, wait for the court to
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  Speaker 4: get cleaned up and get back out there as soon
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  Speaker 4: as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a little bit of treatment too. I
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  Speaker 2: think they're in the course of that five minutes. But
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  Speaker 2: perhaps when Koboli was gone, you know.
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  Speaker 3: It just but most importantly right here, yes, most importantly,
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  Speaker 3: more than his legs, he collected his head and then
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  Speaker 3: that allowed his body to free up in that fist set.
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  Speaker 1: What'd you think of our interviewer from there? Other than
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  Speaker 1: the shots, it's Sam.
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  Speaker 7: Other than the strays that Sam.
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  Speaker 2: No it's great.
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  Speaker 7: I think obviously when you win, you can, you know,
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  Speaker 7: say and do whatever you want.
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  Speaker 2: So Sam was just bi gladly whatever he wants to
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  Speaker 2: me today.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, But no, I think obviously, emotionally today it
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  Speaker 7: was tough, and I think as a champion, when you
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  Speaker 7: get to the other side, you're happy, You're excited, like
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  Speaker 7: that is the stone off of his back, and you
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  Speaker 7: can only be happy for him because you know, everyone's
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  Speaker 7: been in a situation where you've been trying to win
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  Speaker 7: a tournament and it's just so stressful.
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  Speaker 2: You can't even play.
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  Speaker 7: Your everything's cramping, your body's tense, your mind's tense, everything
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  Speaker 7: is tense. So to get over that hump today, I
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  Speaker 7: think is incredibly special for someone who has been so
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  Speaker 7: consistent and someone who truly does deserve.
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  Speaker 6: It, someone that John and I saw at Saddlebrook since
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  Speaker 6: he was nine years old, eight years old, watching him
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  Speaker 6: play with his mom while his brother Misha was practicing.
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  Speaker 2: With you or even at times with me. Totally.
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  Speaker 3: I've been practicing with Alex since he was thirteen or
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  Speaker 3: fourteen years old. It was evident from an early age
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  Speaker 3: that he was a prodigy. He was so good from
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  Speaker 3: the back of the court. He has spent so many
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  Speaker 3: hours on the court. This guy would practice in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: do his weight. I'm talking about fifteen years old, and
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  Speaker 3: then he would hit from six to eight pm, five
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  Speaker 3: days a week at Sadurbrook in.
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  Speaker 2: Tampa, Florida. He was he's just been an absolute war first,
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  Speaker 2: he's so deserving of it.
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  Speaker 6: And there's his mom in the blue there holding the
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  Speaker 6: trophy as well with their puppy. That's she goes out
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  Speaker 6: and walks the dog during the match. That's how she
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  Speaker 6: deals with the stress.
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  Speaker 2: The long four hour walk today. Right, isn't that cute?
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  Speaker 2: That is pretty cute, Okay, But.
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  Speaker 1: My other question is is you know he jokingly takes
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  Speaker 1: shot to his father and his brother Nisha, and his
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  Speaker 1: daddy can't get rid of him. Right, twenty nine years
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  Speaker 1: with his father and his brother.
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  Speaker 2: How tight is that relationship? How unique is this situation?
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  Speaker 6: It's super tight, but you know it also comes with
• 13:51
  Speaker 6: some interesting variables, right that it's not always comfortable. It's
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  Speaker 6: not always easy to know where the line is between
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  Speaker 6: family and the coaching relationship. But Misha, his brother especially,
• 14:02
  Speaker 6: was responsible for changing the service toss and making his
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: serve what it is today. It was always really good.
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  Speaker 6: The first it's even better, and the second serve, even
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  Speaker 6: though today it had some troubles, it did a little
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  Speaker 6: bit better than probably it would have been twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 6: So he's made lots of games with them, and there
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  Speaker 6: have been lots of pundits who've said, you need.
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  Speaker 2: To bring it outside people.
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  Speaker 6: There have been times that he has done that, but
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  Speaker 6: ultimately he went back to the family and it is
• 14:26
  Speaker 6: a big win for a family who's given everything for
• 14:29
  Speaker 6: their two children.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: He's always had the big serve, he has always had
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: a beautiful backhand. Now he has a Slam championship trophy
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: in the bookcase that he could look at as a
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: reminder of all that he's accomplished.