Latest / Brian Thomas / Congressman Warren Davidson joins the show this morning
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The talk station.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Seven oh five, the fifty five parised talk station Happy Thursdays,
- 0:22Speaker 2: last Friday Eve looking forward to the return of iHeartMedia
- 0:25Speaker 2: aviation expert Jay Rally eight thirty looking forward to talking
- 0:28Speaker 2: about Senator rand Paul at bottom of this hour. And
- 0:30Speaker 2: I am always excited and polase to welcome with the
- 0:32Speaker 2: fifty five krsee Morning show. Congressman Warren Davidson, Welcome back,
- 0:35Speaker 2: my friend. Pleasure having you on the show.
- 0:38Speaker 1: Brian's always an honor, great to talk with you.
- 0:41Speaker 2: Let us dive on into Well, we're still in a shutdown,
- 0:43Speaker 2: said a voted again said no. Democrats are insisting that
- 0:46Speaker 2: we extend the COVID area era, basically premium supplements covering
- 0:52Speaker 2: the American taxpayers covering the cost of the Obamacare premiums,
- 0:56Speaker 2: which was successfully expanded the program. They doubled the size
- 0:59Speaker 2: of the Obamacare folks during COVID nineteen. But that was
- 1:03Speaker 2: the predicate for allowing these supplements. COVID nineteen. Oh my god,
- 1:07Speaker 2: we're all going to die. Businesses are shut down. People
- 1:09Speaker 2: need relief. Let's give them free insurance, which isn't really free. Well,
- 1:12Speaker 2: that period of time has gone yet the Democrats and
- 1:15Speaker 2: an obvious effort to get everyone under one size fits
- 1:18Speaker 2: all medically run government healthcare or government run medical care.
- 1:23Speaker 2: They're fighting and that looks like they're going to die
- 1:26Speaker 2: on this hill? Or are they? Congressman Davidson, what's your
- 1:28Speaker 2: assessment on this? I know you had some very strong
- 1:32Speaker 2: words about the Continuing Resolution which kept the Biden era
- 1:35Speaker 2: funding levels to try to get this through. So where
- 1:37Speaker 2: are we on this, Congressman Davidson, Yeah, I mean.
- 1:41Speaker 1: That's basically it. Democrats could have chosen to just keep
- 1:44Speaker 1: the funding level that they helped implement. I mean, this
- 1:47Speaker 1: isn't like a partisan funding bill. This was the Republicans
- 1:52Speaker 1: had the House, the Democrats had the Senate, Joe Biden
- 1:55Speaker 1: was the president, and this is the same policy, same
- 1:58Speaker 1: funding level the pass at that we haven't passed a
- 2:01Speaker 1: different funding goal. We've had lots of debates about it.
- 2:04Speaker 1: But that's the whole point is we could continue having
- 2:07Speaker 1: the debates and call the votes on other policy issues
- 2:11Speaker 1: with a government that's open, or we could have this shutdown.
- 2:14Speaker 1: And you know, Democrats decided that they were going to
- 2:17Speaker 1: hold their votes and not supply the seven that you need.
- 2:20Speaker 1: In the Senate, we passed it out of the House
- 2:22Speaker 1: because we just need a majority, and a majority of
- 2:24Speaker 1: the Senate's passed it. You've got fifty six Senators that
- 2:26Speaker 1: say yeah, let's keep the government open, so that's bipartisan,
- 2:30Speaker 1: but you need four more Democrats frankly, to join and
- 2:33Speaker 1: say let's keep it open. And realities, we know we
- 2:35Speaker 1: need less government, we need a budget that balances. Democrats said, no,
- 2:39Speaker 1: if you don't give us a one and a half
- 2:40Speaker 1: train dollars that we can spend on our priorities, which
- 2:43Speaker 1: includes he'll care for illegals, includes you know, COVID plucks
- 2:49Speaker 1: ups for Obamacare, which never worked in the first place.
- 2:53Speaker 1: It was failing in twenty twenty one, and they used
- 2:55Speaker 1: COVID as a pretext to flood it with even more cash.
- 2:59Speaker 1: And now it's expiring, and they're like, oh, well, maybe
- 3:02Speaker 1: if we subsidy it more, it'll keep you know, we'll
- 3:05Speaker 1: reach this magic tipping point where somehow it'll be affordable.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And it's like, no, you know, I'm almost tempted to say,
- 3:11Speaker 1: you know what, you should triple them, because just to
- 3:15Speaker 1: prove the point, the subsidies aren't lowering the costs, not
- 3:19Speaker 1: helping people get lower health insurance. Now it benefits to
- 3:23Speaker 1: people to get the subsidy for sure, but for the
- 3:25Speaker 1: broader average consumer, it's raising the premiums and the quality
- 3:31Speaker 1: of care since Obamacare hasn't done better. Health outcomes haven't
- 3:34Speaker 1: done better since Obamacare was worked. So when are we
- 3:37Speaker 1: going to finally concede that Obamacare didn't work? And Democrats
- 3:41Speaker 1: want to shut the government down over that and other
- 3:43Speaker 1: priorities they've.
- 3:44Speaker 2: Got, Yes, they do. And you know it's funny because
- 3:47Speaker 2: the premiums going basically going directly to healthcare providers like hospitals.
- 3:52Speaker 2: I mean, the American people aren't seeing any of that.
- 3:54Speaker 2: So it is it is continued to sport. But it's not.
- 3:57Speaker 2: They haven't gone away. I think that's really critical point here.
- 4:00Speaker 2: It's not. It doesn't become free just because the government says, well,
- 4:03Speaker 2: now it's free. They're not providing health care for nothing.
- 4:06Speaker 2: The American taxpayers covering the nut of the premium. That's
- 4:09Speaker 2: your one point five trillion dollars right there, basically, or
- 4:11Speaker 2: maybe hundreds of millions of dollars, billions of dollars anyway, Yeah.
- 4:16Speaker 1: That portions hundreds of billions. They've got all kinds of
- 4:18Speaker 1: other stuff. In there. They want to restore USAID funding,
- 4:20Speaker 1: which we intentionally turned off. They want to restore our
- 4:24Speaker 1: funding for NPR, which we intentionally told them to go
- 4:27Speaker 1: fund themselves. And you know, all these things they want
- 4:31Speaker 1: to relitigate that we've already had the votes on, and
- 4:33Speaker 1: they just want to use the government shutdown as extortion.
- 4:36Speaker 1: So you know, I hope we put single things in there,
- 4:38Speaker 1: Like you know, right now, you know, we've got essential
- 4:40Speaker 1: people working, and you know that begs the question why
- 4:43Speaker 1: do we have non essentially? But if you say, all right, well,
- 4:46Speaker 1: these people are so important that they need to keep working,
- 4:49Speaker 1: why isn't the payroll clerk that pays them so important
- 4:52Speaker 1: that the payroll clerk keeps working? So we can put
- 4:55Speaker 1: some line at them bills on there so that it's like, Okay,
- 4:58Speaker 1: if you don't want to fund the government all the way,
- 5:00Speaker 1: could we at least fund the payroll clerk so that
- 5:03Speaker 1: our troops can get paid this month.
- 5:06Speaker 2: That's a good idea, Congressman Davidson. But now, what of
- 5:09Speaker 2: the concern that I have that Republicans now seem to
- 5:14Speaker 2: be maybe wavering a little bit headline Wall Street Journal
- 5:17Speaker 2: Republicans cautioned White House on inflicting shut down pain, referring
- 5:20Speaker 2: to Donald Trump's comment earlier this week about the Office
- 5:23Speaker 2: Management and Budget compiling a list of folks that will
- 5:26Speaker 2: be fired or departments that will be permanently closed. He
- 5:29Speaker 2: did suggest that was coming our way in a matter
- 5:31Speaker 2: of four or five days. Now we're down to maybe
- 5:33Speaker 2: three or four days for that. But isn't that something
- 5:36Speaker 2: that we kind of want out of this shut down?
- 5:39Speaker 2: An opportunity to reduce the size and scope of government,
- 5:42Speaker 2: which some of these wavering Republicans are saying, well, wait
- 5:45Speaker 2: a second, that I'll give the Democrats a win in
- 5:47Speaker 2: the who's responsible for this shutdown argument? Aha? See, the
- 5:51Speaker 2: only pretext for this is Republicans want to cut out
- 5:54Speaker 2: the government and oh my god, people are going to
- 5:55Speaker 2: die or whatever. But I don't care. I would think
- 5:59Speaker 2: you could wear that as a badge of honor. Yes,
- 6:01Speaker 2: I did shut the government down for the purposes of
- 6:03Speaker 2: getting it smaller. We campaigned on doing exactly that.
- 6:07Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. Look, I voted for the CRS
- 6:09Speaker 1: so we could keep having this debate because frankly, I
- 6:12Speaker 1: want the outcome of a smaller government. So you know, okay,
- 6:16Speaker 1: if we're going to have a revote, and I can
- 6:18Speaker 1: take credit for helping get RUSS vote to power to
- 6:21Speaker 1: start aligning a budget with our priorities. Well good, that's
- 6:26Speaker 1: exactly what we've been fighting to do. With the appropriations process.
- 6:29Speaker 1: It's broken, and so all you've really got left is
- 6:32Speaker 1: executive power. And you know, the administration put out a
- 6:35Speaker 1: budget earlier this year. I would be surprised if they
- 6:38Speaker 1: don't start doing basically what they said they believe the
- 6:41Speaker 1: budget should look like, and they send over, you know, ideas,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and then Congress just well, yeah, but we can't do that,
- 6:47Speaker 1: and they never get around to doing it. So, you know,
- 6:49Speaker 1: RUSS voted at offstin management and budgets, got the task
- 6:52Speaker 1: of saying, look, I have to follow the law. I
- 6:55Speaker 1: have to pay people that we're considering essential. You know,
- 6:58Speaker 1: the prisons guards at the federal prisons, they're going to
- 7:01Speaker 1: have to show up to work, keep the prisoners locked up.
- 7:03Speaker 1: The FAA is going to have to work and keep
- 7:05Speaker 1: the planes in the air, et cetera. But there are
- 7:09Speaker 1: agencies that they said, for example, we don't think we
- 7:12Speaker 1: need as many IRS agents. So they're talking about for
- 7:15Speaker 1: a lowing or eliminating a substantial portion of the RS.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I think forty six percent. I want the whole place closed.
- 7:22Speaker 1: But you know, it's a good start to get rid
- 7:24Speaker 1: of forty six percent of it.
- 7:26Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more. It seems to me that you know,
- 7:28Speaker 2: a lot of jobs out in the world are threatened
- 7:30Speaker 2: by artificial intelligence, Congressman Davidson, isn't that sort of a
- 7:33Speaker 2: role that artificial intelligence may be able to fill quite nicely?
- 7:36Speaker 2: It is just dollars and cents and calculations based upon
- 7:39Speaker 2: an obscenely thick and fat tax code.
- 7:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, the tasticulously complex. That's why we
- 7:46Speaker 1: need a different way to tax people and get rid
- 7:49Speaker 1: of the income tax, which also serves as a giant
- 7:51Speaker 1: surveillance tool. It's pretty nosy all the things that you have
- 7:56Speaker 1: to disclose in it. But anyway, it is one hundred
- 8:00Speaker 1: percent right. For more automation and more tech and the
- 8:03Speaker 1: innovation that can happen there is going to eliminate a
- 8:06Speaker 1: lot of jobs in terms of compliance. But in the meantime,
- 8:09Speaker 1: when we're operating the government, look, we've got tons of agencies.
- 8:12Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at HUD for example, housing
- 8:16Speaker 1: an urban development, they had like forty four percent coming
- 8:20Speaker 1: into the office period, not like every day of the week,
- 8:23Speaker 1: but like coming into the office period. There's still This
- 8:27Speaker 1: is when I was talking with Secretary Fudge before the
- 8:30Speaker 1: current administration. You know, Marcia Fudge, a former member of
- 8:34Speaker 1: Congress from Cleveland area here in Ohio, became secretary of
- 8:38Speaker 1: HUD and she's like, look, you can't get all these
- 8:40Speaker 1: people to come in. COVID is long since gone, and
- 8:43Speaker 1: they still couldn't get people to show up to work.
- 8:46Speaker 1: You've got the same dynamic and IRS, same dynamic and
- 8:48Speaker 1: Social Security administration. So a lot of these people that
- 8:51Speaker 1: haven't come into work, the Trump administration has already tried
- 8:54Speaker 1: dealing with them. They've offered buyouts, They've done all kinds
- 8:57Speaker 1: of things. There are lots of positions like that we
- 8:59Speaker 1: can say, you know, maybe we just don't need all
- 9:01Speaker 1: these people.
- 9:03Speaker 2: Congressman Warren Davis, one more question on this shutdown we'll
- 9:06Speaker 2: address before we take a break and bring it back
- 9:08Speaker 2: and talk about an amazing development yesterday regarding peace in
- 9:11Speaker 2: the Middle East. There was a floated around proposal which
- 9:15Speaker 2: is widely described as bipartisan, extending these tax supplements, these
- 9:20Speaker 2: credits that were COVID nineteen era related for one year,
- 9:25Speaker 2: sort of as a way to kick the can down
- 9:26Speaker 2: the road, so we'd have a new expiration date for them.
- 9:29Speaker 2: But is that something that you would be willing to
- 9:31Speaker 2: go along with, because I think it's a step in
- 9:33Speaker 2: the wrong direction.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Personally, No, the status quo is completely broken, and I
- 9:39Speaker 1: don't think it's a good idea to extend them for
- 9:41Speaker 1: one month. Personally, I think we should have already repealed
- 9:43Speaker 1: Obamacare and gone on to a more market or oriented approach.
- 9:48Speaker 1: But if we're going to do a dime for these
- 9:50Speaker 1: COVID era plus ups for Obamacare, I hope we triple them,
- 9:54Speaker 1: ten x them. Whatever proof once and for all that
- 9:57Speaker 1: subsidies don't work, and it proved that, Okay, we can't
- 10:01Speaker 1: arrive at a crash site. People act like money is
- 10:04Speaker 1: irrelevant and we can just print it. Well, you don't.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Can you not connect the dots that the massive spending
- 10:11Speaker 1: causes inflation? And they're like, oh no, it's corporate greed,
- 10:14Speaker 1: And you're like, the companies always want to make money,
- 10:16Speaker 1: but when you spend massively more money, it causes inflation.
- 10:21Speaker 1: And we're seeing that in the areas that you subsidize.
- 10:24Speaker 1: The most like education and healthcare. You get the most
- 10:27Speaker 1: inflation and in the economy when you spend massively more
- 10:31Speaker 1: two trillion more than we then we generate in revenue.
- 10:37Speaker 1: You're dumping two trillion extra dollars into the economy every year.
- 10:41Speaker 1: How do you not have inflation? And for some reason
- 10:44Speaker 1: people can't do this cause effect relationship. It's mind blowing.
- 10:47Speaker 2: That's a failure of the US education system. I would
- 10:50Speaker 2: argue anyhow, will continue the Congress More and Davidson. Peace
- 10:54Speaker 2: in the Middle East, the concept within our reach. Maybe
- 10:57Speaker 2: seven sixteen fifty five KC detox stations US above KS
- 11:01Speaker 2: the talk station Brian Times with Congressman Warren Davidson followed
- 11:04Speaker 2: by Senator Ran Paul Bottom of the hour, Congressman Davidson,
- 11:08Speaker 2: A wonderful revelation. Yesterday Hamas and Israel agreed to Phase
- 11:12Speaker 2: I guess they're calling it Phase one. A lot of devils,
- 11:14Speaker 2: devil in details, a lot of things to be ironed out,
- 11:16Speaker 2: but a remarkable advancement toward peace between Israel and Hamas,
- 11:21Speaker 2: the terrorist organization Israel's agreed to withdraw. There's some question
- 11:26Speaker 2: marks about where the lines of withdraw are going to
- 11:28Speaker 2: be drawn. And who's going to be providing sort of
- 11:30Speaker 2: a peacekeeping force there. But I guess the Egyptian border
- 11:35Speaker 2: Rafa is now open, which allows Palestinians to exit the
- 11:39Speaker 2: area and allows for if food deliveries to be brought in.
- 11:43Speaker 2: This seems to be a huge accomplishment. Congressman Davidson, what's
- 11:46Speaker 2: your perception of where we are on this look?
- 11:49Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump has been very clear that his
- 11:52Speaker 1: goal is peace. He wants people to stop dying. He's
- 11:55Speaker 1: been very active on the world stage, and what a
- 11:58Speaker 1: great use of America's influence around the world and Donald
- 12:01Speaker 1: Trump's personal role in it. And it's been amazing to watch.
- 12:06Speaker 1: He's been incredibly effective. No, I mean, no one really
- 12:11Speaker 1: believes there's going to be peace in the Middle East.
- 12:13Speaker 1: Whenever you starts working on it, you're like, well, okay,
- 12:16Speaker 1: why don't you tilted some other woodmill. This is a
- 12:19Speaker 1: very entrenched conflict, and it's amazing to see that he's
- 12:22Speaker 1: brought the parties together to get to a point where
- 12:24Speaker 1: they're close to peace. They're agreed to do it. Now
- 12:28Speaker 1: let's see if they actually do it. And you know, exchange,
- 12:31Speaker 1: you got to give up the hostages and you've got
- 12:35Speaker 1: to stop. You know, Hamas cannot govern Gaza. That's the
- 12:39Speaker 1: base thing for Israel and then for you know, the
- 12:42Speaker 1: people of Gaza. All Right, if those things are met,
- 12:44Speaker 1: then Israel can start pulling troops out of the Gaza area.
- 12:49Speaker 1: And if it changes, well, then okay, then it's all
- 12:51Speaker 1: back on. But hopefully peace we'll get there. I've spent
- 12:55Speaker 1: a lot of time praying for this peace and it's
- 12:57Speaker 1: just terrible to see what's going on. War's a thing, well.
- 13:01Speaker 2: And part of me wants to believe the Democrats are
- 13:03Speaker 2: actually quite upset about this, in spite of the fact
- 13:05Speaker 2: that it's going to lead to maybe fewer deaths and
- 13:07Speaker 2: maybe even a broader piece like the Abraham Accords we're
- 13:10Speaker 2: bringing around. Can you imagine that extending throughout the entire region. Hey,
- 13:14Speaker 2: let's live together independently, but play together nicely for the
- 13:17Speaker 2: purposes of everybody's economic benefit. What an odd concept that,
- 13:22Speaker 2: But I thought it was wonderful that all of the
- 13:24Speaker 2: parties to these negotiations, from Hamas to Israel, to Cutter,
- 13:28Speaker 2: to Egypt to Turkey, all much to the chagrin of Democrats.
- 13:32Speaker 2: Giving Donald Trump specific praise for his efforts along these lines.
- 13:36Speaker 2: I mean, as much as I have no value in
- 13:39Speaker 2: the Nobel Peace Prize ever since Barack Obama got one
- 13:42Speaker 2: for doing literally nothing, but this makes Donald Trump really
- 13:46Speaker 2: quite eligible, if not well deserved, of a Nobel Peace Prize.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what makes them lose their minds over it.
- 13:53Speaker 1: I mean, You've got people trying to overdose on talentled
- 13:56Speaker 1: just because Donald Trump pointed out that talent all themselves,
- 13:59Speaker 1: and Harvard did a study that said, hey, taking tell
- 14:02Speaker 1: it all while you're pregnant could be bad for you.
- 14:05Speaker 1: Talk to your doctor. And so there are people that
- 14:08Speaker 1: are literally going to the ICU because well, to own Trump,
- 14:11Speaker 1: I have to do this. And so now you see,
- 14:14Speaker 1: on the biggest world stage possible, Donald Trump getting a win,
- 14:19Speaker 1: which is, you know, win after win after win in
- 14:22Speaker 1: all kinds of areas. They just can't stand it. And
- 14:26Speaker 1: even if it meant more war, they would be like, well,
- 14:29Speaker 1: but Trump can't succeed. I think one of the funniest
- 14:31Speaker 1: things I saw was, you know, kind of one of
- 14:33Speaker 1: those Babylon D type headlines is Federal judge rules that
- 14:37Speaker 1: Trump cannot does not have the authority to facilitate peace
- 14:41Speaker 1: in the Middle East. You know that this is the thing.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Anything to stop Trump is basically the only thing that
- 14:46Speaker 1: the Left stands for.
- 14:47Speaker 2: These days, no question about it. Well, and the other
- 14:50Speaker 2: component of this that remains a mystery to me because
- 14:52Speaker 2: as we see all these pro Palestinian and pro Hamas
- 14:56Speaker 2: agitator agitators tearing up college campuses and overrunning city, I
- 15:00Speaker 2: didn't see any reference to the question of a Palestinian state.
- 15:06Speaker 2: Does this have any open sort of least wiggle room
- 15:10Speaker 2: for that to be brought about. Is that something that
- 15:12Speaker 2: wasn't touch by this. I didn't hear any. I didn't
- 15:14Speaker 2: really quite read anything which definitively answers that question. Congressman Davids, Yeah.
- 15:19Speaker 1: That was very intentionally not included in this because there's
- 15:23Speaker 1: just no way that there's going to be a discussion
- 15:25Speaker 1: about that that involves Hamas. And so the condition is
- 15:29Speaker 1: Hamas can't govern in Gaza, and then there's a lot
- 15:32Speaker 1: of rebuilding that needs to take place before that's even ripe.
- 15:37Speaker 1: And there are a lot of people that are pushing
- 15:38Speaker 1: for it, including some of the European Union, Democrats, radicals,
- 15:43Speaker 1: campus folks in particular that you're talking about, and you know,
- 15:47Speaker 1: the ten to seven massacre when hamas you know, went
- 15:50Speaker 1: out and massacred innocent civilians in Israel. A lot of
- 15:55Speaker 1: what their demand was is a separate state. I mean,
- 15:58Speaker 1: you can't reward that massacre, the ten seven massacre with
- 16:04Speaker 1: talking about a separate Palconian state, but you can restore peace.
- 16:08Speaker 1: And so it looks like they're well underway towards that
- 16:11Speaker 1: and hopefully it continues.
- 16:13Speaker 2: Amen to that, Congressman Warren Davidson, I certainly appreciate your
- 16:16Speaker 2: willingness to join my listeners of me and have a
- 16:18Speaker 2: discussion on these important issues, and I truly appreciate you
- 16:22Speaker 2: and your standing on these matters As an elected official.
- 16:24Speaker 2: We need more people like Congressman Warren Davidson, and I
- 16:27Speaker 2: want to thank all of your voters for putting you
- 16:29Speaker 2: in office, and hopefully we'll have continued great relations with
- 16:32Speaker 2: you here in the fifty five Garrissey Morning. Should Congressman Davidson.
- 16:37Speaker 1: Yeah, always an honor. Thanks Brian, God bless you and
- 16:39Speaker 1: all your listeners. Thank you.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Right back at you. Coming up next, Senator Ran Paul