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  Speaker 1: How different does the process leap up for you this
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  Speaker 1: year compared.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe last year?
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  Speaker 3: A little less frantic, I guess you'd call it in
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  Speaker 3: terms of just how fast everything happened last year and
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  Speaker 3: getting not just the scouting staff onboarded, but the coaches
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  Speaker 3: then onboarded to new procedures and modes of operation. So
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  Speaker 3: I think just some of the familiarities really helped. Just
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  Speaker 3: the flow and the way that we operate on a
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  Speaker 3: day to day basis, the schedule, the routine, what the
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  Speaker 3: coaches expect. That's been very clear and concise throughout the process,
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  Speaker 3: and I think it's just allowed us to maybe get
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  Speaker 3: to different or deeper dialogue, maybe a little bit quicker
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  Speaker 3: on some of the guys that were really honing in on.
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  Speaker 1: For both of you, how just how different is it
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  Speaker 1: than actually knowing your roster and have spent time with
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  Speaker 1: these guys you kind of know what's it.
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  Speaker 2: How's compared to last year where it was kind of
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  Speaker 2: getting in.
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  Speaker 1: That's the most helpful piece, I think, being able to
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  Speaker 1: accelerate a lot of conversations where at this point in
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  Speaker 1: time last year we were in true discovery mode, right
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  Speaker 1: we were learning on the fly, and now we get
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  Speaker 1: to leverage all the information and experiences that we've had
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  Speaker 1: with everybody on our football team up to this point
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  Speaker 1: as a part of our decision making, and it just
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  Speaker 1: it allows those conversations, like Liam said, to be a
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  Speaker 1: bit deeper and get a little bit further into it
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  Speaker 1: at more efficient manner.
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  Speaker 4: Tremon, who saw it was we count Ford was that
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  Speaker 4: to get buttoned up right now?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a pretty important piece. You know.
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  Speaker 1: He he's somebody that I think, by season's end, and
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  Speaker 1: I shared with the majority of you in the in
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  Speaker 1: the room, that he was somebody we wanted to align
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  Speaker 1: ourselves with beyond just the contract that we had at
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  Speaker 1: the time. And you know, his commitment to our football team,
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  Speaker 1: his commitment to his teammates, it seeps out of his
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  Speaker 1: soul and it was very easy to see what his
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  Speaker 1: his piece to our puzzle meant and the scheme fit
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  Speaker 1: the priorities that we have on our defense.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it just all really matches up in a
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  Speaker 2: real way.
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  Speaker 1: And glad that he was able to earn himself that
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  Speaker 1: opportunity and know that he's going to take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't take it for granted, and he's the type
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  Speaker 1: of human being that you feel comfortable making a decision
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  Speaker 1: like that about and really excited for really the evolution
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  Speaker 1: that we'll see moving forward with not only his usage,
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  Speaker 1: but that entire defensive front and those guys behind him
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  Speaker 1: as we get into year two of the system.
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  Speaker 4: A tight end you met Bretton obviously established, But as
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  Speaker 4: you look at the draft, how much do you have
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  Speaker 4: to project whether a guy knows not a blocker.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one. It's like what you're projecting
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  Speaker 3: with both HY and F. It's like, okay, what, why
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  Speaker 3: has enough athletic you know, movements and athleticism and hands
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  Speaker 3: and ball skills and feel to be able to run
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  Speaker 3: the route tree? And then what F Essentially with so
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  Speaker 3: much of the spread offense and some of those guys
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  Speaker 3: not being in a lot of those situations that you're
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  Speaker 3: projecting a little bit, can they do it?
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  Speaker 2: Can they block?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe at this second level and linebackers safeties? What do
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  Speaker 3: those matchups look like for the player that we're talking about,
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  Speaker 3: And so, yeah, there's a little bit of a projection,
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  Speaker 3: especially at that position because you're seeing so many different
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  Speaker 3: ways they're being used. And then you look at how
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  Speaker 3: much the tight ends were used or the extra alignment
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  Speaker 3: were used in the NFL this year at the Y position,
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  Speaker 3: but also what the F and the or the U
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  Speaker 3: could be in some of those multiple tight end personnel groupings.
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  Speaker 5: You have a good idea in terms of it seems
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  Speaker 5: like you guys are operating from a position of strength
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  Speaker 5: in terms of the health of the roster, but you
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  Speaker 5: still have eleventh picks. Are you happy with the positioning
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  Speaker 5: that you guys have put yourselves in going into your
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  Speaker 5: two Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it because you know, those those
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  Speaker 1: slots that you're thinking about are more contributing slots, and
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  Speaker 1: when you're talking about first year players, typically that's the
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  Speaker 1: expectation is finding a way to contribute and offer a
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  Speaker 1: positive impact, and you know it can be a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more challenging on the early end of a season
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  Speaker 1: as a rookie or even towards mid season to really
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  Speaker 1: feel that come to life, and in the instances that
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  Speaker 1: it does, that's great, but usually that's above the expectation,
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  Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about pick fifty and beyond, right,
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  Speaker 1: which is where we find ourselves at this point, excited
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  Speaker 1: about building off of last year's crop, knowing that it
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  Speaker 1: was just south of eleven picks a couple in undrafted
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  Speaker 1: college free agency that we're able to find their place,
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  Speaker 1: but look forward to to sort of being in familiar
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  Speaker 1: territory this go around and being able to leverage prior
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  Speaker 1: experience with navigating the waters here in about a two
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  Speaker 1: weeks time and.
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  Speaker 2: Have some fun with it.
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  Speaker 1: All the best available player approach, do you limit that?
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  Speaker 2: Is it best available player? But if this happened or
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  Speaker 2: this guy's.
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  Speaker 1: Around, Yeah, I think you'd like to say, it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be best player available, and you got to it's
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  Speaker 1: going to always going to come with a little nuance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you're going to compare across positions and where
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  Speaker 1: there's a clear visual for contributions and a vision from
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  Speaker 1: our coaching staff to seeing that player's skill set come
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  Speaker 1: to life, and you would typically appreciate the fact that
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  Speaker 1: could come to life sooner than later. Uh. And all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff has to be weighted against each other. So
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  Speaker 1: when you got two light players and one position allows
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  Speaker 1: maybe in an earlier rung way, you'd lean towards that direction,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not so black and white, uh all the time.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's that's the type of dynamic. You would
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  Speaker 1: want to be able to walk in at each pickpoint
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  Speaker 1: with the idea that, hey, we're not pigeonholed to one
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  Speaker 1: or two positions, but we have all of them where
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  Speaker 1: we feel comfortable taking a shot if the right player,
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  Speaker 1: the best player presents themselves.
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  Speaker 6: Eat Yeah, James, how hard is it to balance that?
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  Speaker 6: So piggyback off that a little bit, to balance that
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  Speaker 6: getting a guy for an immediate impact that doesn't have
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  Speaker 6: the buzzer up signed with looking at another position where
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  Speaker 6: this positional value where your roster was pretty set, but
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  Speaker 6: you got kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of look down the road of right and he has
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  Speaker 2: more blue sky as the player.
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  Speaker 6: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's hard to say it's some black and white answer.
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  Speaker 1: It's typically gonna come with a lot of layers to it,
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  Speaker 1: and ultimately you gotta make what you feel like is
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  Speaker 1: in the best interests of our our team in the
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  Speaker 1: now and the team for the future. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But we're ready to go win.
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  Speaker 1: Some football games, and whoever can help us do that,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna try and go ahead and add to the
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  Speaker 1: to the fold.
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  Speaker 6: Quick follow up, as far as tramps hunt, without getting
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  Speaker 6: too far into it, is he tracking to be ready
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  Speaker 6: to go for whatever timeline.
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  Speaker 2: If you guys have established.
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  Speaker 1: For him to be a full go yeah, he'll be
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  Speaker 1: in all for all intentsive purposes, a limited participant throughout
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  Speaker 1: the off season program with eyes on return to play
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  Speaker 1: at full tech and training camp.
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  Speaker 4: And we appolished you enoy evaluated the as of players.
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  Speaker 2: Good question, as good as your tight end question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's I've always enjoyed watching tape, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I've watched a lot of evaluations of when my dad
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  Speaker 3: was recruiting, uh, the three players in New York, New Jersey,
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  Speaker 3: Rhode Island, Massachusets, Connecticut, watching all positions, and you you're
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  Speaker 3: you gain an appreciation for the game as much as anything,
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  Speaker 3: and so you gain an appreciation for all that comes
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  Speaker 3: with it. Now, is it easier or more fun to
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  Speaker 3: watch some other positions at times that have a ball?
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  Speaker 3: You know, usually I tend to lean that way, but no,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's cool to see the impact and effect
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  Speaker 3: that the other side of the ball has, what that
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  Speaker 3: player can maybe do to help truly our team, not
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  Speaker 3: just in defense, but also on teams and special teams,
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  Speaker 3: and what that looks like and trying to have an
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  Speaker 3: open mind to some of those nuance is that a
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  Speaker 3: defensive player could possess a little bit more or different
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  Speaker 3: value than a tight end right or a different position
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  Speaker 3: that we're talking about on offense. So I've actually come
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  Speaker 3: to enjoy it. I found that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: ways obviously that you can impact the game without touching
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  Speaker 3: the football and having an impact on every single play.
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  Speaker 3: The most fun, as boring as it is, no kidding,
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  Speaker 3: the most fun.
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  Speaker 2: About watching film with Liam Right.
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  Speaker 1: So when I'm just doing it by myself, I'm focused
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  Speaker 1: in on typically a single player going from one play
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  Speaker 1: of the next.
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  Speaker 2: In large part just evaluating what that guy's doing.
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  Speaker 1: When you start bringing a coach's lens into the conversation,
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  Speaker 1: they start diagnosing scheme across all eleven on offense, how's
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  Speaker 1: that matching up against what we're getting in the look
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  Speaker 1: from the defense, and then three minutes later.
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  Speaker 2: We're moving on to the next five.
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  Speaker 1: It's a it's a classic, but you get a PhD
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  Speaker 1: every off season of trends schematically when you start diving
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  Speaker 1: in with our coaching staff on a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: draft work and free agent work. So that's always a
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  Speaker 1: level up for our scouting staff, analytics staff that are
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  Speaker 1: in on those conversations and get an idea of some
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  Speaker 1: of those layers that you may not otherwise keep top
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  Speaker 1: of mind unless you're focused on the schematics.
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  Speaker 2: When he's sitting Yes, absolutely not. I get the process
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  Speaker 2: of it a slower tick. I don't have to be
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  Speaker 2: so rapid fire. No, it's good.
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  Speaker 1: I get to take a pause a little bit and
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  Speaker 1: think about it differently.
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  Speaker 3: Just gets a little drawn.
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  Speaker 6: James is the discoursing connection with Liam and Canon Brant
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  Speaker 6: with the asist inclusions.
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  Speaker 2: Guys are really going to be day to day with you.
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  Speaker 2: That's a critical piece, you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's as I think back to our opening dialogue as
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  Speaker 1: to taking the position, me sitting at the podium with
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  Speaker 1: Tony and Liam, Sean, Mark and TK. Pure collaboration was
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  Speaker 1: what came to mind and our decision making Without it,
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  Speaker 1: it becomes very challenging to showcase a clear visual for
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  Speaker 1: how a player is going to fit our environment, how
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  Speaker 1: a player is going to fit into our team or
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  Speaker 1: a position group.
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  Speaker 2: So I think in order to come to that conclusion,
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  Speaker 2: we've got to have a lot of back and forth.
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  Speaker 2: We got to have a.
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  Speaker 1: Lot of insights being brought to the table and see
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  Speaker 1: where it is that we have alignment and where we don't,
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  Speaker 1: and in the instances that we don't, we keep watching more.
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  Speaker 1: And if we're unable to find a common space, which
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  Speaker 1: we are in some instances, you got to move on
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  Speaker 1: to the ones that you can and be okay with
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  Speaker 1: whether or not the players that you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: find success elsewhere, knowing that, hey, it just wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to be a match for us, or it wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to come with clarity, And when it isn't, it's hard to.
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  Speaker 2: Try to say, like, let's force this. You feel me
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  Speaker 2: on that? What are the challenges of having to wait
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  Speaker 2: until fifty six?
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  Speaker 4: You never seen, never moved out? Are there challenges that
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  Speaker 4: come with that? And it will be an excruciating first
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  Speaker 4: round to sit through knowing.
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  Speaker 3: You don't have that if you don't have that option, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: a lot longer before.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there is no doubt about it. We have waited longer,
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  Speaker 2: There's no doubt.
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  Speaker 3: But we were having a blast.
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  Speaker 2: One oh four was our first.
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  Speaker 1: Pick, so we at least get to cut that in
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  Speaker 1: half a little bit, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: So there's what do we got two weeks one day
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  Speaker 2: for now? So that's two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it will until our pick yeah for now, right,
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  Speaker 1: So that kind of thing you always.
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  Speaker 2: Have, the you're always gonna stay agile, and so you're
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  Speaker 2: never bored.
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  Speaker 1: You're always thinking through what might we be able to do?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that mental gymnastics certainly is an engaging element.
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  Speaker 2: Regardless of where your first pickpoint is. Do you not
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  Speaker 2: do moss badly? No, we do scenarios.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we walk through, Hey, if this pot of players
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  Speaker 1: is there, which one do we feel most comfortable targeting?
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  Speaker 1: Knowing that at our next pickpoint or our next few pickpoints,
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  Speaker 1: these are the players that we feel like, maybe in scope,
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  Speaker 1: how do we feel about the combination of these different
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  Speaker 1: players together? So on and so forth. So yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: working through that a little bit. And obviously that stuff
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  Speaker 1: on draft night, there's no telling. All it takes is
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  Speaker 1: one team to take a player that you want and
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  Speaker 1: you're moving on to the next that you were eyeing up,
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  Speaker 1: and that may in fact alter what you do at
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  Speaker 1: the pickpoint behind it and the pickpoint behind that. So
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to chop through that a little bit as
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  Speaker 1: best we can.
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  Speaker 7: So how much do you track tendencies of other teams?
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  Speaker 7: And like the perceived needs maybe of those teams that
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  Speaker 7: are ahead of you in the draft. Do you do
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  Speaker 7: more of that when you have a pick this late
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  Speaker 7: Yeah than like obviously last year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All teams, just like offenses and defense throughout the years,
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  Speaker 1: have have typical tendencies that they they lean into and
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  Speaker 1: they break those tendencies, uh, which is always fun. And
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  Speaker 1: we try to to do the same and be aware
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  Speaker 1: of our own uh.
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  Speaker 2: So that they can't totally be leveraged against us.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, I I think that is a very, uh,
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  Speaker 1: very important piece to our our mapping of where we
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  Speaker 1: might need to get ahead of somebody or uh be
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  Speaker 1: able to jump in the draft or feel comfortable if
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  Speaker 1: we were able to move back a certain amount uh
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  Speaker 1: that we're not at risk for losing out on a
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  Speaker 1: couple players that we want to target. So that's an
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  Speaker 1: important piece to that strategy, is being in tune with
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  Speaker 1: uh a lot of those elements from.
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  Speaker 2: Each club or even trees of decision makers. Scenario plus
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  Speaker 2: draft gets here. How many different scenarios do you think
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  Speaker 2: you'll run through? You have to run more than the
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  Speaker 2: second round at fifty six. I don't know that it's
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  Speaker 2: anymore as much as it is.
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  Speaker 1: You probably hone in on your hot list and then
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  Speaker 1: you're you're pretty refined at that point. We got a
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  Speaker 1: really intimate and detailed understanding of who and what we
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  Speaker 1: want those types of elements.
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  Speaker 2: So it trims the list a good bit. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: While there's two hundred and fifty plus picks, it's nowhere
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  Speaker 1: close to us saying these are our priorities. Two hundred
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  Speaker 1: and fifty plus, it's a lot i fewer and farther between.
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  Speaker 1: So it allows us to, even if we were picking earlier,
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  Speaker 1: kind of focus that conversation a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: But you do find out how you like people over
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  Speaker 3: here by going through those scenarios.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he's gone, who you take? Who's gone? We take?
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  Speaker 3: You know, going through that process, find out who people like.
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  Speaker 1: You just took this guy right now, you're probably not
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  Speaker 1: taking this guy right at this slot?
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  Speaker 2: Are you cool with that? You know?
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  Speaker 6: Does it help you're you're evaluating guys that were coming
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  Speaker 6: out of high school when you were coaching college because
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  Speaker 6: I assume you don't get that look as much college
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  Speaker 6: football right now? And follow it up, have you got
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  Speaker 6: to convinced Pacific that I've take eleven off?
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  Speaker 2: Trust me? That that answer.
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  Speaker 3: If they don't play hard, it's hard for for Tony
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  Speaker 3: to get around that regardless of position, which I really
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  Speaker 3: tackle at a high clip.
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  Speaker 2: He's We're working on him. No, he's doing I.
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  Speaker 3: Appreciate that about about Tony, you know, and because it
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  Speaker 3: becomes it's our cultures, you know, it's what we want
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  Speaker 3: to be is physical and tough, and that that can't
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  Speaker 3: be something that we uh sacrifice. And then to to say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of players that are coming out that
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  Speaker 3: I've recruited, you know, intimately in terms of being in
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  Speaker 3: their houses and so coach them in college. A number
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  Speaker 3: of guys that we've evaluated and then also been in
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  Speaker 3: some of their homes or at camps and seeing those
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  Speaker 3: guys and so yeah, that's a cool part is to
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  Speaker 3: see the evolution of those guys and to know maybe
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more of the background on some of
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  Speaker 3: those players that I was fortunate enough to be around
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  Speaker 3: in the SEC and a lot of guys that went
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  Speaker 3: other places that we had on visits right or that
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  Speaker 3: I went sought off campus. So I really appreciate that part.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that was the best part I thought about
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  Speaker 3: recruiting in college was like going in the high schools
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  Speaker 3: and seeing the players and seeing them in their environment
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  Speaker 3: and meeting the coaches and their teachers. So it's it
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  Speaker 3: brings back some memories, Yeah, for sure.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously very connective the process. What was it for you
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  Speaker 2: kind of seeing James and Scott department in that element
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  Speaker 2: the year. Yeah, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's you're in the last so much in
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  Speaker 3: football during the season, right with your coaches and whether
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  Speaker 3: that's schematically personnel, you know, fundamentally technique, but also philosophically,
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  Speaker 3: so you I get a new perspective, or not a
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  Speaker 3: new perspective, but just a different lens of culture, of
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  Speaker 3: belief of exactly what we're hunting up in that alignment,
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  Speaker 3: showing up of core beliefs and what you believe in
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  Speaker 3: as an evaluator and as a coach and as a personnel.
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  Speaker 3: So it's really cool to hear different perspectives from some
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: of the guys in the room that we're sitting there
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: watching tape with and.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: You know seeing that.
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: But a lot of the times it's it's very much
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: in alignment, which is fun.
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  Speaker 4: The strongest strong.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard to say.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I think the good part is based off of where
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: we're mapping things out. There's a lot of deaf positions
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: that we feel like we're going to address.
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, uh.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Beyond that, as it always seems to be the case,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: is when it comes to the rush. There's a a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: good chunk of defensive ends in this cropping comparison to
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: maybe some of the others, which I think will make
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: for an exciting first round cause typically when you can
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: rush the passer, there's there's gonna be ah a priority,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: a premium.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: It's placed off there, James.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Many believe that defensive tackle is the l weakest position.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Who maybe with with quarterback in this year's trapped and
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: they say that they're very good against the run, but
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: they don't create any pressure inside. He's that agreeable. Are
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: there complete defensive tackles in this rap? You know?
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I think it's always there's no reason to think that
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: guys that we might label is incomplete become complete by
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: the time their NFL career is over. There is development
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: that occurs and surprises people. It's why Day three and
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: undrafted college free agents become Pro bowlers in all pros.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: So to cap that as a concrete sort of outlook
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: is hard to do. I think there will be plenty
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of people that four or five years from now surprise
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: a lot of the remarks or counter a lot of
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the remarks that can be said. But to that end,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: it's typically the case that the guys on the inside,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: they tend to do a pretty good job at holding
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: up against the run more than they would.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Rush the pastor that's typically the case.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: So it's actually more abnormal to be somebody that's sacking
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: the QB at a regular tick on the interior. So
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: by default it's typically going to be the way you
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: describe the inside of the defensive line. So I think
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: there's plenty of reason to think that over the course
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: of the next four years, some.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Of these guys are going to surprise. The narrative.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Defensive tackles the extra lawns. A guy that requested their.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Treasers like somebody who you guys might pick up a
• 18:57
  Speaker 7: phone on and see what the ask the price.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Or that's something we've we've gone into and obviously he's
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: under contract with them, so not not at liberty necessarily
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: to even talk about it.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: When you get the players that your.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Would you want your initial message to be, you know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: you're you're chomping at the bid, especially after going to
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the owners meetings and and talking some smack and having
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: some fun. But also it just feels a little bit closer,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: right as getting the guys back in the building and
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the entire messages. We're attacking this offseason and we're attacking
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: the details. We're attacking our relationships, We're attacking our communication
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: because there's gonna there's new, there's change, there's different communications
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: and relationships that need to be blended and matched and
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and you know, pouring into each other. Uh, from a
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: detail standpoint, I think that's gonna be key and critical
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: and getting better with less time. I think I mentioned
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: that last week is we had We're fortunate last year
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: as a as a first year staff to have an
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: extra week, right, and we maximized the entire offseason with
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: less time as a coaching staff and with the players
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: being extremely dialed into everything that we're trying to improve
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: on those areas I talked about of stink, you know,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: that we need to work on, and then continuing to
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: focus on the fundamentals and techniques in which we always
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: want to coach. But we're attacking everything that we're doing this.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Offseason well, Basel and Laquin had did some really good
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: things as rookies. What are some elements of their game
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: that you're excited to see improve in the year two.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you look at what two showed in
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: terms of getting downhill on it inside the tackles, that
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: really wasn't as much on its tape in college. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: think we can do a better job of giving him
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: some opportunities a little bit more that that fittest skill
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: set as well in college and get him going in
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: some of those instances as well in the past game
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: in the screen game, and I thought he did a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: great job. I know he had the one fumble against
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: the Colts, but ball security was something that we you know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: honed on a lot and we really tried to work on.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And that wasn't just with him, that was with the
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: whole group. But okay, now it's like year two, let's
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: go be more creative, you know, like a now you
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: learn ball security at a premium and what we're looking
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: for the standard. Now let's go take it to the
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: next level. And then Lequin, I think showed so much
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: in terms of the toughness, physicality, the care factor. Third
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: now runs that he was good at really good at
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: for us, you know, I know he had sixty catches
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: or so in college, and so that's an area I
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: think we can continue to lean into him as well.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Jeez, which scout on your staff has no filter?
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'd like to think that we're in a spot where
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: everybody's in that bucket. We try to cultivate the.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: We got. We cultivate the water.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Cooler conversations right, to make it less a boardroom style
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: more of Hey, if you were just catching me at
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the water.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Cool what would you what would you bring to the surface, right,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: what would you talk about? And make it sound like
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: that not a buttoned up.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: Report reading right, Because I do think it's very important
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to get to the actual sentiment and the root of
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: how you're feeling about a player, a dynamic position conversation,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: all those types of things without trying to work around
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: your real, real feeling on it. And sometimes the idea
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: that hey, I got to be buttoned up or filtered
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: can get in the way of the root coming to
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: the top of the conversation or the unfiltered sentiment coming
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: to the top. So we've tried to get to a
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: place where everybody fits that that mold and I think
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: it's it's starting to show itself less where it's any
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: one individual, and it's actually in a very positive way
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: unfiltered James, are you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 7: Able to uh tide for a sword ga, be able
• 23:17
  Speaker 7: to gauge if you're a lot higher on a prospect
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: if you think around the league, maybe t is an
• 23:22
  Speaker 7: if so, how do you kind of gauge when to
• 23:25
  Speaker 7: select that player?
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: As a question, Uh, I think it's h It does
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: become apparent in the instances where let's just say, the
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the world is saying a player is going early, but
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: you don't see the vision for how they would fit here,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: as being we just don't like them as much as
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: as maybe the what you would label mock draft world
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: is saying in the flip side of that, don't see
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: this guy anywhere yet, there's a lot of appreciation in
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: some instances. What we'll really focus on is taking players
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that we feel have a very clear fit within the way.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: We operate, regardless of what that might mean in terms
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: of the outward perspective.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Right, it's what fits us at what makes sense to us,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, if they help
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: us win football games, that's a win.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: For the Jaguars. I mean you don't care about the track, right,
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: you know, typically typically it's not the spot we put
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: the energy in. Right. I wasn't good with grades even
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: back in elementary school, So why be good at him now?
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: You know it's wins and losses?
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: Is a local quarterback, you're how about you think his
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: experience in different schemes, big games will help him find
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: out home.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you look at his you know, production and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: different things that he was asked to do at Georgia,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: both underneath the center, the shotgun turning his back to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: the defense, making I guess you'd call it, you know
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: NFL throws like from a route tree standpoint and from
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: a timing and rhythm standpoint. I think he's been really
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: well coached. And then you go to Miami and you're
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: operating a little bit more shotgun spread. So now you're
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: seeing a little bit more of the baseball shortstop. I
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: don't know if he played baseball, but like spit whereas
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Georgia more play action under center, let the ball get
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: down the field a little bit. Now you're able to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: maybe see some of the short, shorter, intermediate, different window
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: throws that he was able to make this year. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: so I remember watching him in pregame in twenty three
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: when we were at at Georgia. I was watching the
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: throwerball pre game. I was like, dang, dude, that thing's
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: coming off his hand pretty good. So havn't been able
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: to meet him or anything like that, but I think
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: he's got a shot.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: Former coaches, I wait, your coach summer wrong? And I
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: didn't really make the connection Caleb last year. Yeah, but
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: does does knowing? Not necessarily because the coach is your friend,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: but yeah, the expectations and the workload that are put
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: on how the player responds to it, does that track
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: or does that really help make decisions on how guys
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: are gonna respond once you get into your program.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, like we I think our scouting staff and they
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: gather so much information from the the university or at
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the school, the director of ops, the athletic trainers, the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: the strength and conditioning and the coaching staff. Right, you
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: have so many different resources and so to be able
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: to call the head football coach that not just because
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: of the head football coach, but because we have a
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: shared interest and value of standards and of uh how
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: to coach and how to go about things, and what
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: a player can and cannot take in terms of coaching,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: and how they handle coaching right, and how they receive information,
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: how they best learned. I mean, those are really important
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: conversations when it comes to some of the information that
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: we're gathering. And look, you try to gain as much
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: but also not try to make too many phone calls
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: that you're you're maybe muddying the waters. But I think
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: some of those those guys that you're really close close with,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: like John and you know Brad White for instance at
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Florida last week or two weeks ago, whatever it was, Yeah,
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: you're able to have some real conversations and and get
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: real intel that way.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: Thank you,