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Chuck & Buck 5-7 hour 3: Is a 6-man rotation the answer? Sup!?!? Does the punishment fit the crime? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning. It is Chuck Powell and Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 1: with you here on this Thursday, gorgeous Thursday morning here
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  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Oh man, just set your eyes on it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: chat with Chris Daniels. You know, we got to find
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  Speaker 1: time to talk to Chris Daniels when we don't have
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  Speaker 1: breaking news on the Sonics, because he gets gobbled up
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  Speaker 1: by everybody in town. And so I Ashley and I
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  Speaker 1: are like, well, let's get him during a dead period
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  Speaker 1: and he can just kind of reset everything with where
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  Speaker 1: the Sonics are and we'll probably talk about a few
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  Speaker 1: other things. He's just a charming man.
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  Speaker 2: He really is a treasure.
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  Speaker 1: He's a treasure. So we'll talk to him today at
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  Speaker 1: nine o'clock. We still have the ABC's of the m's
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  Speaker 1: coming your way and sup. That's right, people, SUP at
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty, So get your texts in on any questions
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  Speaker 1: sports world or otherwise. We'll do our best to answer
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  Speaker 1: the mon Honestly, we'll do that at eight thirty. But
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  Speaker 1: I want to talk right now about apparently the million
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  Speaker 1: dollar question in town about the Seattle Mariners. And it's
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  Speaker 1: a great question. It is a great debate. There are
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  Speaker 1: opinions everywhere. I love it, and I love it, and
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  Speaker 1: then they're really knowledgeable people and they're all coming from
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  Speaker 1: it from different directions. It seems strange that we have
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  Speaker 1: an eighteen and twenty baseball team that can't hit an
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  Speaker 1: eighteen and twenty baseball a superstar in Cal Rawley who's
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  Speaker 1: bat in one seventy. Yeah, I mean we have a
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  Speaker 1: lot of problems on this team. We got a bullpen
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  Speaker 1: that's down two big arms. We've got, you know, a
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  Speaker 1: team that can't hit left handed pitching.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a problem.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there are all we have. A shortstop can't
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  Speaker 1: defend to his left or right. I mean, we've got
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  Speaker 1: a lot of weird you know, a third basement that's
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  Speaker 1: not healthy. Hopefully he'll be back tomorrow, but there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things to actually, I don't know to
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  Speaker 1: worry about, but there are a lot of problems right
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  Speaker 1: now with this baseball team. Eighteen and twenty baseball teams
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  Speaker 1: has its problems, and yet the hottest debate is about the.
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  Speaker 3: Strength of our team because people want to focus on
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  Speaker 3: the positives.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing, the one thing that for most nights
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  Speaker 1: we can count on, is our starting pitching. And yet
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  Speaker 1: it's the million dollar debate here in town. What are
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  Speaker 1: we going to do once Bryce Miller is healthy? How
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  Speaker 1: are we going to set the rotation going forward? You've
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  Speaker 1: heard my thoughts. They certainly they don't change that. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they've remained the same through this entire process of asking
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  Speaker 1: this question. But certainly I'm taking the input and maybe
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  Speaker 1: I position my opinion a little differently from day to day.
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  Speaker 1: But I've been asking all of our experts this week.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't put Bill Krueger on yesterday just so we
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  Speaker 1: could get his opinion on this topic. But on Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: we had Ryan Healy TV guy, handsome young man, dapper, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he's doing a great job for us on a
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  Speaker 1: weekly basis, And so I asked him what this team
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  Speaker 1: should do once Bryce Miller returns healthy and ready to
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  Speaker 1: go with its starting rotation.
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  Speaker 4: I think someone or something is going to get disrupted
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  Speaker 4: during this and if the if the main goal that
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  Speaker 4: everyone can agree upon is health and longevity through the season.
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  Speaker 4: And reminding all five plus now you know Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 4: coming back, all six of those pitchers, that the health
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  Speaker 4: of this rotation is going to lead this team to
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  Speaker 4: the promised Land. I think that they can rally behind that. Also,
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  Speaker 4: I know this pitching staff does a tremendous job of
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  Speaker 4: filling up the strike zone and especially strike one, keeping
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  Speaker 4: the pitch count low. And he saw, you know, Logan Gilbert,
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  Speaker 4: who even gave up a couple of home runs in
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  Speaker 4: the sixth last night to be able to he was
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  Speaker 4: in that halfway through that sixth inning with eighty pitches
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  Speaker 4: like he's starting to look better, and we don't see
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  Speaker 4: a lot of Mariner's pitch that are walking the house.
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  Speaker 4: Castillo has had a couple of starts this year where's
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  Speaker 4: looked like that. I think they can get behind it.
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  Speaker 4: If health is the road to the World Series, then
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  Speaker 4: they're gonna get behind it in adjustice to their routines accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I thought that he answered the question. I
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  Speaker 1: should have set that up a little bit better. He's
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  Speaker 1: talking about what they can get behind is the six
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  Speaker 1: man rotation. He thinks that's the answer, and you could
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  Speaker 1: tell there was a little sucking through the teeth there
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  Speaker 1: his pearly white teeth for television. There's a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of that. I think they can get behind it. I
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  Speaker 1: think there was some sucking of the teeth there on
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  Speaker 1: Ryan Healy, but he believes that as difficult to question.
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  Speaker 1: This is that the six man rotation is the way
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  Speaker 1: that the team can go, and I do see some
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  Speaker 1: benefits to it. Number one, Yeah, an extra day rest
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  Speaker 1: in between. Right now, the Dodgers are using a six
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  Speaker 1: man rotation, and for the most part, it is to
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  Speaker 1: protect the health of Shoe a Otani who's had a
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  Speaker 1: couple of arm surgeries, Tyler Glass now, who's always hurt. Now.
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  Speaker 1: They also know they're going to get into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's no surer thing in sports than the
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  Speaker 1: Dodgers may get it into the playoffs. So they get
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  Speaker 1: to baby their way through the season. I mean, they're
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  Speaker 1: not even going to pitch Blake Snell it sounds like
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  Speaker 1: until August, even though he could be back sooner. But
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  Speaker 1: they don't need to rush because they know they're going
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  Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. They want to make sure Blake
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  Speaker 1: Snell's at his best in the postseason. But so there
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  Speaker 1: are different reasons, but they're going with a six man rotation.
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  Speaker 1: The Dodgers kind of know what they're doing, right They're
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  Speaker 1: pretty good organization right now. Yeah, and so there are
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  Speaker 1: some benefits to maybe giving a little extra rest to
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  Speaker 1: all of the guys. Also in a time, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be permanent. Temporarily you're down two of your
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  Speaker 1: best relievers. Theoretically, if you are giving your starters an
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  Speaker 1: extra day rest in between starts every single time through
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  Speaker 1: the rotation, then shouldn't that suggest that they might be
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  Speaker 1: able to go longer into games and.
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  Speaker 2: That's the key for me. That one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if George is going consistently through seven innings, does
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  Speaker 1: he now with an extra day rest you can count
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  Speaker 1: on to consistently go through eight innings, maybe even a
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  Speaker 1: complete game. Imagine Bunting's back. Maybe complete games will come
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  Speaker 1: back next.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of such things.
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  Speaker 1: So that's another possibility, is that you save your bullpen
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  Speaker 1: a little bit, because in theory, your starting pitchers with
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  Speaker 1: an extra day rest might be able. You might be
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  Speaker 1: able to push him past eighty eight pitches, like George
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  Speaker 1: came out of the game in his last start after
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  Speaker 1: just eighty eight pitches and seven innings. So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: an idea. So there are merits. There are merits to
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  Speaker 1: a six man rotation. Also, you don't have to hurt
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  Speaker 1: anybody's feelings, right, At least Castill gets to stay in
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  Speaker 1: the rotation. Bryce gets to join the rotation. You don't
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  Speaker 1: have to take Emerson Cock out of the rotation. You
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  Speaker 1: certainly aren't going to touch Wu or Kirby or Gilbert,
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  Speaker 1: so no hurt feelings, right, All six guys get to
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  Speaker 1: be part of the team, get to be in the
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  Speaker 1: boat rowing one alongside another equal strength I mean they
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  Speaker 1: always talk about a fist is stronger than five fingers.
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  Speaker 1: Imagine how strong a six fingered fist is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, my name is a Nhiko Montoya. You
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  Speaker 2: kill father.
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  Speaker 1: The sixth finger? Antony Alfonseka had six fingers on each hand.
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  Speaker 1: Hell of a typist.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, extra words.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh. Absolutely, that sixth finger makes a difference. So
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  Speaker 1: I see the merits that said. I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: do it because I think there's a downside to that
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  Speaker 1: as well. These pictures, and I think ours modern day
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  Speaker 1: pictures more so than ever, and maybe Mariner's modern day
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  Speaker 1: pictures even more so than anybody else's, are such slaves
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  Speaker 1: to their routine. And I point this out a lot
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  Speaker 1: to Bucky. He never buys it. Why is it every
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  Speaker 1: time there's a rain delay, we have a crappy outing
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  Speaker 1: from our starter, like they are so grinding on their
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  Speaker 1: routines that man, you throw just a little bit, You
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  Speaker 1: delay a game an hour and you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: get the same picture that day.
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  Speaker 2: Or you start the game and then stop it and
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  Speaker 2: ask him to come back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, forget about that, forget it. Yeah, you might as
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  Speaker 1: well ask him to invent time travel.
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  Speaker 2: Good during the delay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So what happens then if every single time through
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  Speaker 1: the rotation these guys are out of the routine that
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  Speaker 1: they've established so far. Luke Arkins not a smart baseball guy.
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  Speaker 1: My friend Luke Arkins text me during the show yesterday
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  Speaker 1: when we were discussing this with Bill Krueger, and said,
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  Speaker 1: what I don't like about a six man rotation is
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  Speaker 1: those things that are sure like the Emerson Hancocks and
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  Speaker 1: the George Kirby's right now, know, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take I don't want to delay their starts by another game.
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  Speaker 1: I want our best pitchers pitching as frequently as they
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  Speaker 1: possibly can. And if you now they're now you're pitching
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  Speaker 1: seventeen percent less. Now you're getting to your starting pitchers,
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  Speaker 1: your best starting pitchers, you know, seventeen percent fewer times
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  Speaker 1: through the rotation. And so I think that's a great
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  Speaker 1: point that why do we want Luis Castillo pitching every
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  Speaker 1: sixth day when he's struggling and you know, making sure
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  Speaker 1: he stays in the rotation. And now we're doing it
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  Speaker 1: at the risk of the guys that actually are pitching
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  Speaker 1: great and we would like to actually see more of.
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  Speaker 1: But can't. So I think that's a great point. So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: there are merits to just about every argument when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to this, but you also have to make a decision.
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  Speaker 1: And my decision is I don't like the six man rotation.
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  Speaker 1: That's also Bill Krueger's belief as well. We had Bill
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  Speaker 1: Krueger on yesterday. He does not like the idea of
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  Speaker 1: the six man rotation either. As a matter of fact,
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  Speaker 1: he thinks they've got to make a decision on one
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  Speaker 1: of the six dudes going to the bullpen. And here's
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  Speaker 1: Bill's idea.
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  Speaker 5: Well, sometimes when we played the old game of musical chairs,
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  Speaker 5: the music stops and you don't have a chair, and
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  Speaker 5: it's not fair. He's had a year of injury, and
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  Speaker 5: talking about Bryce Miller, by the way, well, someone that
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  Speaker 5: was near his draft class is zoomed ahead of him
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  Speaker 5: and belongs in the rotation. That's Emerson Hancock. He's not
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  Speaker 5: leaving the rotation. He's pitching too good. He's made some
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  Speaker 5: nice adjustments. He's arguably our best starter right now based
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  Speaker 5: upon this simple size.
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  Speaker 1: And that's horribly exciting.
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  Speaker 5: When we start talking about why to be excited about
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  Speaker 5: miror or baseball, that's one of them. Okay, So if
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  Speaker 5: it were me, and it's not, I'm your armchair guy,
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  Speaker 5: I got no pressure. I would put him in the
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  Speaker 5: bullpens because he could be a guy in the middle
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  Speaker 5: of the game that could really.
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  Speaker 1: Help this team.
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  Speaker 5: They're short in the bullpens.
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  Speaker 1: They're short.
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  Speaker 5: They're short anyway. Even with their their their quartet down there,
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  Speaker 5: they need another arm if they're gonna READI compete the
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  Speaker 5: way the baseball's play, the way the Mariners play it
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  Speaker 5: close to the vests kind it into pieces. Even with
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  Speaker 5: our starting pitching. Albeit Gilbert went six oh by the way,
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  Speaker 5: he won the game. What a novel thing. And you
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  Speaker 5: kept your pitch count down you won. Yeah, that's how
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  Speaker 5: you win. Keep your pitch count down.
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  Speaker 1: That's more.
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  Speaker 5: Pitching innings and staying in longer is more important than
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  Speaker 5: how many strikeouts you get my opinion. But getting to
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  Speaker 5: your point, I put him in the bullpen. I think
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  Speaker 5: he could be a real weapon. He certainly replaces he
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  Speaker 5: could replace Brash. Maybe not Brash because Brash has been
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  Speaker 5: there and done that. But you're gonna put ninety eight
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  Speaker 5: with some equipment down there. And a guy with a
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  Speaker 5: cool is a cool customer, and he's relieved before. That's
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  Speaker 5: where I put him. It's a hard conversation. It's a
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  Speaker 5: hard conversation to tell him that he's not going to
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  Speaker 5: be in the rotation. But you're gonna have to say, look,
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  Speaker 5: we have a championship quality team here. Do you want
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  Speaker 5: to contribute to being a championship team. You're never going
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  Speaker 5: to be lost as a starter. We still believe in
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  Speaker 5: you as a starter. But right now, that's where we
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  Speaker 5: need you. That's the conversation for me, That's that's where
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  Speaker 5: I'm headed.
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  Speaker 1: Bill Krueger with us yesterday and again we had a
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  Speaker 1: great conversation about the entire pitching staff yesterday with Bill
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  Speaker 1: if you want to check it out at ninety three
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  Speaker 1: to three KJR dot com as well. Here's what I
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  Speaker 1: like about the argument from Bill, even though I don't
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  Speaker 1: agree with it, here's what I like about it. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's right about Bryce Miller. Bryce Miller has such
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller has such a quiet confidence. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: don't you know the Hannibal Lecter line that his you
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  Speaker 1: know pulse never got above you know, sixty beats a minute,
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  Speaker 1: even when he was eating the man's liver. Yeah or no,
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  Speaker 1: it was his tongue. Yeah, even while he was eating
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  Speaker 1: his tongue. Also, yeah, Bryce Miller kind of has that
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  Speaker 1: hannibal lector kind of almost sick coolness about him that
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  Speaker 1: Clint Eastwood, I'm getting ready for a gunfight, and yet perel, peril, peril.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get rattled. You might get rattled. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna get rattled. So he probably has the perfect
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  Speaker 1: makeup for a closer, just how cool a customer he is.
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  Speaker 1: And he also has the stuff that he could be
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  Speaker 1: a terrific reliever, and I do. I brought this up
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  Speaker 1: long before we had Bill Long that maybe while Bryce
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  Speaker 1: is ramping up, you know his pitch count, and he
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  Speaker 1: just had another start last night. If you like his stuff,
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  Speaker 1: you like where he's at, then maybe he could do
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  Speaker 1: that here and fill in once or twice a week,
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  Speaker 1: pitch a couple of innings out of relief, then get
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  Speaker 1: some extra work in the bullpen so that you are
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  Speaker 1: extending him and you are still getting ready hit for
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  Speaker 1: him to join the star rotation. But why waste that
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  Speaker 1: in Effett and Tacoma when we're down a relief pitcher,
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  Speaker 1: And maybe he could fill in for Matt Brash. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: not on an every other day basis, but maybe twice
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  Speaker 1: a week, two innings at a time. We could see
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  Speaker 1: some Bryce Miller in some high leverage situations. I know
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  Speaker 1: he can handle it. I know his stuff can handle it.
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  Speaker 1: So I get the merits of that. That said, I
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  Speaker 1: just don't want to play this game, not with this season,
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  Speaker 1: not this year. This is not about anybody's feelings. And
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  Speaker 1: if Bryce Miller can have a hard conversation about you
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  Speaker 1: know what, we're gonna put you in the bullpen because
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  Speaker 1: it's best for the team, then so can Luis Castillo.
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  Speaker 1: No why, I mean, I get that he's the senior
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  Speaker 1: member of the team, but he's also pitching the worst.
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  Speaker 1: I think Bryce, I think they all felt Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 1: after what we saw at the tail end of last year.
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  Speaker 1: Once healthy, this is one of our big this is
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  Speaker 1: this guy's gonna have a great year this year. And
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  Speaker 1: I still think he's going to be very effective for
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners this year as a starting pitcher. So okay,
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  Speaker 1: I get the merits while he's transitioning back. Maybe he's
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  Speaker 1: the guy so that it's an easier conversation, But I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why you couldn't have the same kind If
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo is the veteran, is the big brother, is
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  Speaker 1: the leader, shouldn't he want to do what's best for
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  Speaker 1: the team. And I just think right now, at this
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  Speaker 1: stage in their careers, Bryce Miller is a better pitcher
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  Speaker 1: than Luis Castile. And I will give you more evidence
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  Speaker 1: on that. They felt that way about Luis Castill and
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  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller last year. And I know Bryce Miller didn't
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  Speaker 1: have as good a season as Luis Castile, but when
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  Speaker 1: we got to the playoffs, who was pitching in the
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  Speaker 1: big moments? George was getting all the big assignments. Who
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: wasn't available, but it was No one was turning to
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  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo in a big game, and yet Bryce Miller
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  Speaker 1: pitched some of our biggest games that we had. They
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: had plenty of opportunities of throwing Castillo, making him the starter,
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  Speaker 1: game one starter right out of the bat on two
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  Speaker 1: different series. They didn't go to him. They were already
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  Speaker 1: losing faith in Luis at the end of last season,
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  Speaker 1: and their faith with Bryce was growing at the end
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  Speaker 1: of last season. I just think Bryce Miller is the
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  Speaker 1: better pitcher. And I'm not gonna sit here and protect
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  Speaker 1: people's feelings this year we're gonna play the best guys, period,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a five man rotation so it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: affect all pitchers negatively, is the better way to go.
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  Speaker 1: And if we do have to make a hard decision
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  Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks, unless there's something about
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  Speaker 1: Bryce in his rehab that the Mariners don't like and
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  Speaker 1: that they want to see a little proving ground, I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: am going with let's have an honest conversation. Who are
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: our best five pitchers? Write him down, put them on
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: the board. That's who we're going with right now. And
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: whoever's on the outside looking in we'll have to have
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: a difficult conversation with. But they're all great teammates, they
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: all love one another. They will all understand. And it's
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: not a death sentence be cause Steele can go to
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: the bullpen as a long reliever for a little while,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and if there's an injury or if he proves, hey,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I'm pitching better than Bryce right now, we'll flip flop him.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: We'll make the change if we need to make the change.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not making any decisions this year based on hurt feelings.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: My decisions this year twenty twenty six Mariners baseball are
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: who is the best man for the job, And to me,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: it is Kirbie, Gilbert Wu, Hancock and Miller.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: And that's the thing that bothered me. I think too
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: with the idea of just sending Miller straight to the bullpen.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Is he's coming off a rehab start, he shouldn't lose
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: his job to just the idea of, well, these guys
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: are already here, they've already been starting. Now if he
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: wasn't going to be pitching, or if if all five
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: of the guys that are currently out there right now
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: we're pitching, like Brian Wu or Emerson Hancock, well obviously
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: Miller goes to the bullpen. I'm with you, Yeah, but
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: they're not. And there is one glaring person who is
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: not pitching that well. And so that's where it's like, well, yes,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: in theory, you would love it if they were all pitching.
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: Is great, and that the easy thing is to send
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: Miller to the bullpen. Done, you're coming off your rehab.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: This is the way it's gonna go. That's the eat
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: that would have been so easy. But you can't say, well, sorry,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: because you're coming off a rehab. We don't want to
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: hurt someone's feelings. We just want to put you in there.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: It's gonna make it easier for everybody, because that's not
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: best for the team. And if you are really trying
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: to win a World Series, you have to be doing
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: what's best for the team regardless.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we're running away with it, then that's
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: another thing. Yeah, but we're still trying to figure out
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: how to win this year, right, I'm when it's it's
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: World Series time, Yeah, there is no messing around. And
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the day that Cold Emerson's better than JP Crawford at baseball,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he's going to be our starting shortstop.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: And I think it's going to happen this year. So
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: that's just the way I want them to operate. I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: said this earlier in the week, and for the very
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: first time, I'm getting the feeling they're going to go
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: six man rotation. And I don't have anything to back
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: that up.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I went to the yard two days ago with Softy.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk to Jerry, didn't talk to Justin, didn't
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: even talk to a PR person. Yeah, Softy and I
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: didn't even discuss it in the stands. I didn't talk
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: to Devish about it, didn't talk to Jude about it.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: I didn't talk to Kramer about it, so I don't
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: have This is just a feeling. I have a feeling
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they're going to go six man rotation temporarily and then
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: just let the season take care of it. You know,
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: there probably will be an injury. Yeah, yeah, there probably
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: will be some sort of injury that might take care
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: of it. And then, as Ashley brought up, I thought
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: this was a great point. If you do go to
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: the six man rotation for a little while and then
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: you get stuck in the six man rotation because you've
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: been doing it longer than you were expecting, which would
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: be a good thing. It means all six guys are
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: healthy and all six guys are performing. If by chance,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: somebody went down and you didn't want to risk going
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: back to the five accordion style.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I don't want, is back and forth,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: right if.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: You But if you didn't want to go back and forth,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: sounds like Kate Anderson's ready to be a major league
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: baseball pitcher, and that's your reason for calling him up
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and putting him in the six man rotation now that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: you have established But that's just not what I would do.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think there's too much risk to the continuity, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: rhythm of a baseball season and to a group of guys.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And I love them. I think they're all outstanding people
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: and outstanding pitchers, all six of them. And yet I mean,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I forgot what I've got the point that I was
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: gonna make. But I mean, I love them, but you know,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: they've just got to perform. I forgot the point that
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I was gonna make.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: Yeh shit that way, but I do agree to yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: because it's you want. Ideally, Yeah, they're all performing excellent.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: We're in a winning situation.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: You just the six man rotation makes me nervous as well,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: because you are relying on.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: All six of them to all be really good.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: All right, coming up next four nine four five to one.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Your questions on the text line, they start with SUP,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and then you direct them at one of us, and
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: you can ask us anything you'd like, you know, and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I will answer honestly because I'm that kind of dude.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: You can do it on the YouTube chat too.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, four nine four five one are on the YouTube
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: chat as well. It's time for a round of SUP.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Right here on Chuck and Buck in the Morning Sports
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. I'm gonna give you,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you overnight to think about it. I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: do this for Ashley and Bucky as well. Send him
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a show text the day before. These are some of
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the things I'm thinking about. So do whatever you want,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: come up with ever, whatever you want to whatever take
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: you have sup with misleading underwear, want everybody to think
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: about that. I'm just looking at just I don't know
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: why it came up on my timeline because I'm not
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: looking at anything that has underwear on it. But there's
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: this advertisement for some men's underwear that you put underneath.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: It's like a T shirt you put underneath, but it's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: got muscles built into it. Oh yeah, and so it
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: looks like you have muscles that you really don't have.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: And I would put the push up Brawl in the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: same category here. I mean, we're if you achieve what
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you're striving to achieve by looking more fit than you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: actually are, then you're gonna have to take that off
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: at some point. And how much of a tool are
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: you going to look like when you really don't have
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: muscles underneath there?
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the same thing.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: That happens with women and the face filters and all
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: the makeup time you put on on Instagram videos and
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I'm like, well, yeah, you look real pretty, but you
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: don't look at all like yourself.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: How does that not burn you?
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And you can't? Yeah, you can't. You're not going to
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: wake up in the morning looking like that. So what
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: do you tell the person you meet?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, think about it. I want to talk about that tomorrow.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: What do they want to talk about? Let's play a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: round of sup?
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: All right, here we go. This is from the two
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: five three Sup Chuck. Yes, you are the Mariners manager.
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: What do you do to light a fire under these guys?
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: They appear hungover to me. Sometimes they need a spark.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I think I think number one, one hundred and sixty
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: two games, you can't play it with your hair on
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: fire all the time. Number two, I think when you're
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: not hitting, it kind of looks to us like there's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: no life in the team. And then when you're not hitting,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: there's no life in the stands, which I think we
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: read into that as well. I don't think that it
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: happens all that frequently that we're not seeing a great
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: effort on the field, but I will admit I do
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: think there's sometimes that they have kind of looked distracted,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: not focused. I don't think it's an effort thing with
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: these guys. Sure there's somebody that probably should have ran
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: out that ball. I thought Julio loafed after a ball
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to center field that went through his legs the other day.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: There's that occasion, and that drives me nuts as much
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: as it does every other fan out there. But I
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: think that they are guilty of lack of focus at times,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: and that's hard to maintain for three hours a night,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: over one hundred and sixty two games, playing almost every
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: single game. But I at least want my manager, if
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: I'm the manager, I want my manager to acknowledge it
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and not get to the post game and just blow
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: it off like that's baseball. Nope. I want my manager
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: to say, we weren't real focused out there tonight. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: we look sloppy, We look we sloppy, played a sloppy game.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: It's not acceptable. Those guys know it, and yet we
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: can't keep we can't play that way.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're still not throwing anyone under the bus.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: We owe each other more, we owe the fans more
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: that that's unacceptable. Yeah, just that, that's what I want
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to hear out of the manager. I don't want to
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: see him shrug his shoulders and say that's baseball. That's
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: what I don't want to see. I agree, Even if
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: you don't believe it, Even if you do think that's baseball,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: and it's hard to hustle one hundred and sixty two
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: games a year, I at least want to hear that
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: it bothers my manager that my team played that sloppy
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: that day.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: From the two oh six sut Buck Buck Buck Buehler,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: we've got from Dustin suck Chuck, with whom was the worst,
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: slash most awkward radio interview you've ever had.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Oh boy, that's a long list. That is a long list.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the time that. Oh gosh, it's right
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: on the tip of my tongue. Okay, I'm one that
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: I know of, Carmen Electra. Okay, because and this was
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: so unfair. I should have never done it. But when
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you did, I did a Morning Zoo type show like
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I wasn't Howard Stern. I mean, we weren't that, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: it was you know, we were supposed to be Edgy.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: That was the idea behind it. And I wasn't real
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: good with celebrity interviews. I usually kind of like crossed
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: the line. And I asked Carmen Electra. I told Carmen
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Electra that I liked her better with Rodman than I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: did with what's his name, navarro Y And that's a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: horrible thing to say to somebody. It's really a horrible thing.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: And she did not react well. I also interviewed Jessica
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: Alba one time, and she was on with that comedian
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: they did a movie together, Dane Cook. Yes, And I
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: asked Dane Cook and I used the phrase something about
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a hot piece of ass, and she took offense to it,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and it really made the interview uncomfortable. But I've got
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to give it to the interview with Dave McGuinness, which
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I just talked about not long ago, the late Dave McGinnis.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I love Dave McGinnis, but I tried to make a
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: joke right about how many Leonard Davis was one of
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like seventeen kids when the Cardinals drafted him. Yeah, And
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I said, who's his father, Sean Kemp, Yeah, And Dave
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: did not like it, and it was very uncommon, very awkward.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put those three out all right? All right?
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Uh sep, Chuck.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: You are always making movie references. You seem to really
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: like movies. So what is the best movie ever made?
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: This is from seven too?
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's easy. Silence of the Lamb.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, you do it? You do like Silence
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: of the Silence of the Lambs.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, how much better can you get than that?
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Like the acting, I've seen it, so it's got to
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: be good.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: The suspense, it was interesting. I mean there was there
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: wasn't one dead moment in it. Every moment mattered in
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the movie. It was never boring at any moment during it. Yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, how do you not love Silence of the
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: Lamb's greatest movie of all time?
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: That is a good one, all right? Uh sup Chuck?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: From the two five three?
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: If the Astros requested fair market price return for Jordan Alvarez,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: would you see the Mariners make that move?
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I don't have anything. I mean, of all
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: the Astros who are not repugnant, yeah, it's sign me up.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Jordan Alvarez. I don't think they would trade him within
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: the division. But yeah, I said this yesterday. I think
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that the Astros are going to do a fire sale
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: at the trading deadline this year. I think they see
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: the riding on the wall. Their time is passed, and
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: they're a team that has used rebuilding as well as
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: anyone in baseball history, and I think they're ready to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: do that again. I think Jordan Alvarez is going to
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: get traded. I don't think they'll trade him to the
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Marrin probably not, but yes, I would be all about that,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: and I would give up because he's under controller like
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen million dollars for the next three years. That is
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: a bar gun. Yeah, so I'd give up a lot
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to get Jordan Alvarez.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed from the two five to three step Ashley,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: if you had a clean shot at Matt Stafford as
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a linebacker and you knew it would be a fifteen yard.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Penalty, would you take it?
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Great question?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mike wants to know sub Chuck, I have a non.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Sports related question for you regarding your Friday martini nights.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Are you a gin or a vodka guy? I will
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: let you know he does say. If you don't say gin,
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I'll be very disappointed.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: You're going to be disappointed. I think that tastes like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: a Christmas tree.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I don't want to drink a Christmas It depends on
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: the gin empress gin very light, very fresh, very delicious.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Now I will acknowledge from his area of disappointment that
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: I did not know this. I thought it was always
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: vodka martinis, and then after becoming a bit of a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Martini drinker, then I found out that Noah, real Martini
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: is a gen Martini. It is so vodka is kind
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: of the copy cat. So I will acknowledge that I'm
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: drinking the copy cat, but it's still a Martin. But
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I just love vodka so much more than Jin. And
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: so not only am I a vodka guy and never
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: a gen guy, ever a Jin guy. Chopin vodka is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: my I always get to ask that and then everybody's like,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: oh fancy, Like, no, you can get it as normal. Yeah,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: grocery store. It just has a fancy name named after
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: a pianist. Yeah, it's not that big a deal. But
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I had to do that because it was like the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: most recommended gluten free. They all are pretty much gluten free, yeah,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but Unicorn is Celiac, so we had to find the one.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: She was most comfortable with.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: And now it's the only one I can Everybody has their.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: So chopin of vodka martini barely dirty three blue cheese olives. YU.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna get through these next too quickly.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: This is they're both for both of us. Okay, so
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: both of you. Who is the best athlete among kJ
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: R personalities from the two O six I this is
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: a good question, because I'm gonna I guess I have
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: to go Anders.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: He plays soccer.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: There's no way it's Anders or.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Travis plays soccer because they actively like play a sport.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: You mean, like right now, they're like in the best shape.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: That's not how I'm is.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: The best athlete our personality?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: U see? By far? It's not even close.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I would actually probably say me because I tread. I
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: used to tread water for hours at a time.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, that's conditioning. Yeah, you're right, No, that's not athleticism.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Athleticism is that you pretty much can do like anything athletically.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be second swim and Bucky did play basketball,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: didn't he? Uh?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's just he's he's powerful and uh and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: and great hand eyes.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: I took it as now and I didn't know who
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Anders wouldn't beat Bucky at anything anything, There's not one thing. Well, okay,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: running long distance running. He'd beat him at a long
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: distance running. Yeah, that's it.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, interesting all right?
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: And then this one, uh sup Chuck supash This is
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: from four to two five. How does it feel or
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: how does it feel to work with Dick Fane. I mean,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: the guy has made a bajillion phone calls in his life,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: including the very first phone call in eighteen seventy six
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: to Alaska to go over small box scores, and he
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: also owned a pager. It must be like working with
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: the most interesting man in the world.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: It's like working with Ben Franklin.
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: It is the inventor of all things.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, do I want to have phone sex? Maybe?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Am I touching myself right now?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: No?
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Have I thought about touching myself the entire conversation?
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: How do you think I got these kids?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: All?
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Coming up next a conversation that we had yesterday about
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: fram Or Valdez, and now we have new information, so
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: we'll follow it up with what we feel about baseball's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: punishment of Valdez. Yesterday on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: three kJ RFM, weird is reporting and it's strange to
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: see from ESPN. Saw that for the first time today
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that is weird. I didn't realize he started his new
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: job just yet. He is reporting that Aaron Rodgers is
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: visiting the Steelers this weekend and is expected to sign
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: with the Steelers. So finally our national nightmare few comes
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  Speaker 1: to a close here. Also, I would like to I'd
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: like to update something from the from the previous because
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: I think that there there is a different I think
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: there is athleticism and then there is skill, and then
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: there is conditioning. And I think we're getting that confused.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: So from an athletics standpoint, I put Bucky one. I'd
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: put myself too. I played. I know, we joke about it.
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  Speaker 1: If I played. I got recruited in three sports coming
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  Speaker 1: out of high school. I'd put Fame third, and I'd
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: put Kid fourth. I would go from a conditioning standpoint
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  Speaker 1: like Bucket and I would be last. I'd put Kid one,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Anders two, Fame three because he still runs every day,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: and I guess Travis, but I'd a little dark horse
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  Speaker 1: Greg with all of his hiking and his skiing and
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  Speaker 1: push ups and everything, and then unique athletic skill, this
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  Speaker 1: is where I put you at. I'd still put Bucky
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  Speaker 1: being able to hit a baseball as the most the best,
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  Speaker 1: most unique skill because he become a professional at Then
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I'd put you kid because of his running ability, because
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: apparently he's very fast. And then i'd put Greg because
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: I think that he could probably like shoot the eye
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  Speaker 1: out of a sparrow with a gun. So that's that's
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: my that's my list. I think there's a difference. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you know, when I think of athleticism, I think of
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: like Jim Brown, Like Jim Brown would show up and like,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: what is what are you playing out there? It's called lacrosse, Jim,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it. You're a football star. I'd like
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  Speaker 1: to play. Oh Jim, come on now, this is a
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  Speaker 1: different skill set. Oh gosh, you're the best out here.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: You know that. That's that's what I think of with
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: of athleticism. And so, yeah, Bucky's pasted it. But he
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: was a All state swimmer. Yeah, could have been a
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: football player, didn't want to, could have probably could dunk
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  Speaker 1: a basketball at his size. So yeah, yeah, that's that's
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  Speaker 1: how I got it. All Right, we're gonna have Chris
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Danielsong coming up at nine o'clock. But yesterday we had
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: a conversation about Framber Valdez, and a little different one
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  Speaker 1: than I think other people probably had throughout the country
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  Speaker 1: about it. I don't like Framber Valdez, and I think
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: he should be punished. And I don't like throwing at hitters,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: especially when you're throwing at them because they're hitting you.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's a cowardly thing to do. But there
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: was I tried to point out yesterday a little more
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: than met the eye, and he found out after having
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: given up seven runs in the game and couldn't figure out,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: why are they hitting me so hard? I'm a really
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: good pitcher. He found out that they were stealing his signs,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and so he then waited for the guy that he
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: knew was stealing his signs to come up to the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: plate through at him. So I wasn't in any way
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  Speaker 1: saying Franber Valdez shouldn't be penalized. I was just saying, yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: don't act like the Red Sox or some great victim,
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: because if I was pitching and I had some and
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  Speaker 1: I gave up that many runs, and I was embarrassed,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and I saw my era go from all star caliber
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  Speaker 1: to five on the scoreboard and three innings, and I
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: found out that they weren't doing it on their own merits.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: They were doing it because they picked up on some
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: tells and were relaying pitches. I'd throw it somebody, that's fair,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I would. But he ends up getting five games, and
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: it's the type of slap on the wrist that I
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: kind of expected. Frankly, it really isn't a suspension at all.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: When you're a starting pitcher, you get a five game suspension,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: you only play every five days.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like they're saying you have to miss
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: fire starts.
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  Speaker 1: No, all he's gonna do. All they're gonna do is
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: just they're going to find a point in the season
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: where we'd like to give frambur an extra day's rest,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: probably when they activate Troy Milton from the injury list,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and then they'll just back him up a day. They'll
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: announce to the world we're going to serve the suspension now,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: they'll back them up a day, and it's not really
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  Speaker 1: a punishment at all. Against the Detroit Tigers, he'll lose
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: some money. He's making forty million, yea, he'll be okay,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: but at least you sent the message like, we don't
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: do this anymore. This is you know, we we've at
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: least gotten out of Caveman baseball days, and we don't
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: throw it at guys intentionally just because we're angry at them. Yeah.
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: And I think that's the interesting thing that comes out
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: of this whole thing again, which we kind of talked
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: about yesterday, is that baseball has a punishment for throwing
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: it batter intentionally and hitting them, But they don't have
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: a punishment for relaying the pitch that the guy's gonna throw,
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: or whether you're stealing the grip from the pitcher or whatever.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Tell maybe the catcher is doing and you're reeling it
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  Speaker 2: back to the batter.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: There is I mean, they don't consider that illegal unless
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: you're using trash cans.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, so clearly they want to stop one thing,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: they're not concerned about stopping the other.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Well, they can say that it's not illegal, but it's
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: never ever made a picture happy.
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  Speaker 3: I Will.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Will Middlebrooks was on the call for the Red Sox
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: as a former third baseman who, by the way, pulled
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: a Russini before Mike Rabil ever did, and so Will
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Middlebrooks was on the call on that game, and he
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of people were wearing them out on social media,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: and he said that there's nothing wrong. That's been around
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: forever is stealing signs and relaying them to teammates. That's
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: part of the game. Well, throwing at people was also
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: a part of the game at once upon a time too.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that throwing at someone is.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: Right, right, it's just the way they do it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: And I think that there is a gap between what
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you're saying and what you're doing. But don't like you
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: were doing anything above board. I don't think stealing signs
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: should be part of the game. And I know that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: it is, and I know there's no way of getting
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: around it, but I don't like that it's part of
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: the game. And as a pitcher, I hated if I
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: thought somebody was getting a leg up because they were
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: seeing signs and if I found out that I was
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: giving up that many runs and that's the reason I
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: was getting Yep, I'm throwing somebody. Sorry, I'm throwing somebody.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: So framber Valdez got suspended five games, great little slap
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: on the wrist for him. We don't want to see
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that anymore. We sent the message to the average baseball
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: fan that we're not going to allow that anymore. But
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think only getting five games was a recognition of,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: you know what, you kind of had a common browball.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's true, absolutely, And they did
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: have it coming. I get it. Yeah, I just don't
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: like Framber Valdez, so I think he's even a bigger
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: than others.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: He's a he's a douche, all right. Chris Daniels is not,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: and he's going to join us next on Sports Radio
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  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KJRFM.