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#161 - Philthy Rich · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, big episode. We got our guy Filthy Rich
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  Speaker 1: interview with Filthy rich Yo Bootleg cap Podcast special guests
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  Speaker 1: in here, one of my first guests on the show ever.
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  Speaker 1: He's officially back. Man first, Yeah, I think you were
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  Speaker 1: like in the first like six or seven episodes when
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  Speaker 1: we were doing the chairs in here, Filthy Riches here,
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  Speaker 1: what's up man, chilling chilling man in town for to day?
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  Speaker 1: You are in town for the day. Is this new
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  Speaker 1: jewel where you got? I don't know, I've been having
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  Speaker 1: for a while. It's some serious change. You have serious
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  Speaker 1: one side of my boy WIFFI Wiffy made both of these.
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like the actual links those diamonds
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  Speaker 1: are like those are those are serious? That's not no
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  Speaker 1: normal shit. I won't do nothing normal around here. Nothing normal. Man.
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  Speaker 1: You got the new album out, Motivation purses great title.
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  Speaker 1: I do feel like you've probably been the source of
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  Speaker 1: motivation and inspiration for a lot of people in terms
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  Speaker 1: of just being an independent boss, being a businessman, being
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  Speaker 1: somebody who has done you know, when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: just longevity in the rap game, not a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people have longevity, and a lot of people can support
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  Speaker 1: themselves for the amount of time that you've been able
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  Speaker 1: to do. So, you know, like you gotta know how
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  Speaker 1: to rap, hustle, rap, hustle, break that down doing like
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  Speaker 1: everything that comes around rap, if it's versus, if it's videos,
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  Speaker 1: if it's you know, different people endorse you. Like you
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  Speaker 1: got to know how to really get off your ass
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  Speaker 1: and get to it. Like a lot of people just
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  Speaker 1: be content and just sit back and you know, like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: so really I kind of like I've seen Gym. One
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  Speaker 1: night we was out Jim Jones, okay, and he was
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  Speaker 1: like he had like three different shows, did like four
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  Speaker 1: verses in one night, Like one guy was like for ten, ten,
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  Speaker 1: twenty thousand. The other guy went over there and had
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  Speaker 1: like sety five hundred, Like he wasn't turning down nothing,
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  Speaker 1: just getting it, running it over there, not saying that
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  Speaker 1: he was doing the same amount of work for the
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  Speaker 1: for the lower but he wasn't turning down nothing. So
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  Speaker 1: you got to get up and rap. Hustle. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think like if you're independent and you know, there's definitely
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  Speaker 1: like there's a way to just super monetize what you're doing.
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  Speaker 1: And then you know, we're rapping, all types of different
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  Speaker 1: things come like Chelsea just hit me right now, a
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  Speaker 1: real bull woman to do something like a freestyle on
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  Speaker 1: the block and they supposed to be paying me for
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  Speaker 1: it or whatever. Then I just started doing the cameo
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  Speaker 1: thing to where you do all you go on cameo
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  Speaker 1: and people can like yo if they want to. You
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  Speaker 1: even want to do a drop for you or like
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  Speaker 1: a happy birthday for So it's like so many different
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  Speaker 1: opportunities that rap bring to you that you can you know, hustle. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think that a lot of artists leave money on
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  Speaker 1: the table. A lot of people because if you're just
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  Speaker 1: depending on I never wanted to do that at first,
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  Speaker 1: like the shout out stuff, right, I never did it.
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  Speaker 1: And one day I'm like, man, let me see, I
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  Speaker 1: think I made like three thousand and one cameo now cameo.
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  Speaker 1: I just started talking about just off my own, Oh
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  Speaker 1: got you got your are you're talking about like if
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  Speaker 1: someone like says, hey, Phil, I want to pay you
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  Speaker 1: pay my shot out my store. And at first I
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  Speaker 1: never was doing that shit. Like I've seen a lot
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  Speaker 1: of rappers doing that shit through the pandemic. Boo's he
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  Speaker 1: be doing that ship. I'm like, man, let me see.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody was like, hey, man, I give you five hundred,
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  Speaker 1: post them the story for me my cash efter to me.
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  Speaker 1: He synth it and I posted. I'm like, oh there's
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  Speaker 1: something here. Yeah, But I never they been asked me
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  Speaker 1: to do I give you two thousand to post me
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  Speaker 1: on your page. I'm like, hell, now you posted on
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  Speaker 1: my page. I just think that there's like a stigma
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  Speaker 1: that I think is probably like not accurate in terms
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  Speaker 1: of like, you know, I think there's certain artists that
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  Speaker 1: like that might not make sense for if you if
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  Speaker 1: you're like the Weekend or you're like but if you're
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  Speaker 1: an independent artist and you're should be doing it, you
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  Speaker 1: should be running it out. Man, Listen that it was
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  Speaker 1: good lucky right now, and I already got like two
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  Speaker 1: of them already seen. Well, think about it. You just
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  Speaker 1: said you got, uh, what's the most amount of money
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  Speaker 1: you've gotten for a ig shout out on the story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I just towist five hundred, So five hundred bucks. For
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  Speaker 1: people who don't know, five hundred dollars is if a
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  Speaker 1: million streams is four bands five hundred dollars, my math
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  Speaker 1: might be fucked up here. Five hundred bucks is is
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  Speaker 1: that one hundred thousand streams? I don't know about this thing,
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  Speaker 1: but feel me like you got to do like a
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  Speaker 1: serious chunk of streams to make five hundred money, because
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  Speaker 1: I know when day may like like three g's just
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  Speaker 1: like on some back, I'm like, damn, you have to
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  Speaker 1: do it. By everybody coming to meeting, Well, you would
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  Speaker 1: have to do almost a million streams on a record
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  Speaker 1: to get that, to get that money, And that was
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  Speaker 1: what people. It's really a matter of using the music,
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  Speaker 1: using the catalog to open up all this other revenue.
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  Speaker 1: At first, I started like at two fifty and then
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  Speaker 1: I went up to like five and then obviously using
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  Speaker 1: the wrap money, using all of that to just launch
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  Speaker 1: other businesses. Like we were just talking you breed dogs,
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  Speaker 1: about the dog, I did a breathing yesterday and today,
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  Speaker 1: h I got puppies. I be doing dog shows. They
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  Speaker 1: pay me to do dog shows. I host, judge all
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  Speaker 1: types of shit. But that come from being a rapper.
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  Speaker 1: How long did have you been doing the dog the
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  Speaker 1: dog breeding. I think I got my first dog that
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  Speaker 1: I started doing the breathing with probably like just maybe
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  Speaker 1: five years ago. Serious money, man, serious money, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of responsibility. Yeah, I had, like I had
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  Speaker 1: a whole kennel. I built the whole kennle. I spent
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  Speaker 1: like two fifty like the house the backyard, and I
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  Speaker 1: built there like like a house in the backyard, and
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  Speaker 1: that had like sloughs and eat inside of the house
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  Speaker 1: with the drains where they pissing ship and go down
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  Speaker 1: to the sewerd and wash out marble floor ac unit.
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  Speaker 1: How water heat dogs are living better than some dudes
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  Speaker 1: for sure, living better than a lot of people. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean because I know it's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money involved, so you got to take good care of him. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 1: with the dog thing, it's like like you said, you
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  Speaker 1: got to take good care of him. It's a messy
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  Speaker 1: it's a messy thing. You got to make sure, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'll be trying to convince my wife. I'm like, babe,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, because we got the plug. It's the
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  Speaker 1: main objective though, it's the longevity We're gonna get this money.
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  Speaker 1: You will have to clean some dogs. Ship. I might
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  Speaker 1: have to drink off a dog, you know, every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while. But when you stud your dogs, do
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  Speaker 1: you manually? I've never done it. You have to ask
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  Speaker 1: that question. Happens at the veat. That happens, so you
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  Speaker 1: take it to the vet. So my boy they do it,
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  Speaker 1: does it himself, and he says it's better than the VAT.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. They take the
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  Speaker 1: female and they take the male. The male smells there.
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  Speaker 1: They do it right there and then they do it
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  Speaker 1: like that. I've never done it. I never will do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean, I guess, like whatever downside to like
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  Speaker 1: going to the vat, Like, to me, the real downside
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  Speaker 1: you just don't want to pay the money. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: real downside is jerking off your dog, Yeah too, but
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  Speaker 1: I just feel like, you know, it's always cutting corners
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  Speaker 1: me paying the vet to do it and then they
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  Speaker 1: I've also seen people at home they take the seamen
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  Speaker 1: man I didn't win, swear and they put the dog
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  Speaker 1: of everything? Wit stop shot? So what kind of dogs
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  Speaker 1: are you doing? English? English bull dogs? Now, I've had
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  Speaker 1: two English bull dogs. My first English bulldogs really didn't
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  Speaker 1: have any health problems. My second one day, but I
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  Speaker 1: always would hear you know, I got my bulldogs like that.
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  Speaker 1: They always have health issues. They exotic, so that's why
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  Speaker 1: you can't even breathe them like normally. Also, yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: also can't fuck like that can't swim. They can't. They
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  Speaker 1: a pool. You swam. But with that being said, probably
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  Speaker 1: not the best idea, yeah, because they get tired, they
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  Speaker 1: have breathing problems, they have small trachyas. Sometimes they can't
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  Speaker 1: eat like bigger food. Gotta make the food soft and
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  Speaker 1: slobber a lot. Yeah, Well mine don't really slabber like mine. Listen,
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  Speaker 1: I let him out running back in the case. They
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  Speaker 1: they they're good. I used to take my dog to
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  Speaker 1: the parliamentute heat too long. Yeah no, I have man
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  Speaker 1: rest in peace to my guy already gold. Yeah that's
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  Speaker 1: happened to my dog. But yeah, no, they they're very
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  Speaker 1: they're they're short of breath. That's I had one that
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  Speaker 1: was like I ain't never had one like him before.
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  Speaker 1: This guy he's chasing the basketball, jumping in the air.
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  Speaker 1: He was. That's how my dog was. He was crazy,
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  Speaker 1: like I've never had an English woodog like him before.
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  Speaker 1: He was. He was different. What other like, uh, business ventures?
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  Speaker 1: Do you you know? You got your your your your
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  Speaker 1: emerged merch. I had a clothing I mean salon, but
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  Speaker 1: I ended up giving to my godmother because due to COVID,
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  Speaker 1: trying to work or whatever. So but I'm launched in again,
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  Speaker 1: but just online. Same thing. I had to clothing store,
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  Speaker 1: still have a model company in the Bay Area, like
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  Speaker 1: ten females for like music video shit artists that want
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  Speaker 1: a lot of big rappers that used to come in
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  Speaker 1: they do fashion shows, video shoots. Everything that's good money. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: They're only doing only fans manages. So like, uh, like Tiger,
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  Speaker 1: who else did we have up here? Who's doing that? Oh,
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Adam twenty two does it, but he's not a rapper,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: So blue Face blue Face perfectly. That's what so blue
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Face does is so he has like an OnlyFans but
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: he don't fuck on there. He just it's like a
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: reality show. But then he manages girls. Tiger manages girls too,
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: So essentially Tiger's on there fucking okay, But Tiger will
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: have like a girl signed and to his agency and
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: then he promotes them and then he gets a piece
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: of their only fans. Adam twenty two is doing the
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: same thing, okay. Adam twenty two said he's got like
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: a top five earner on only fans that he gets
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: a chunk of I'm like Jesus, it's like kind of like,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: so what is he like invested into her or is
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: he just promoting her? Promoting her? It's kind of like
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like digital pimp remember remember the eight Bone
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: I need to get into it, the MJG album Space
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: age pimping. That feels like what they were talking about.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: They need to give my grills on my get the model,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: get them to get them, get the filthy models and
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: get them all on only fans and just get your percentage.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Is only fans still popping out? I thought that shit
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: was like it was supposed to go away, but they
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: realized that if they did, if they got rid of
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the adult content, that their business would be over. And
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: so it's still lit. Yeah, but they're not paying like
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: they used to. Like take that. I don't think they
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: think they take longer to pay out. Yeah that I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: don't know. But at the end of the day, and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: hear about it here and there, I was gonna doing
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: a long time ago. Not me on there fucking or nothing,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: but just like showing my lifestyle like just so much
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: it had in my phone where they was like, oh,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you got to get contracts from these girls and you
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: gotta have them sign off on this, and you can't
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: post that ship. Just like going out to the club.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Bitch is dancing, tworking, fighting, It might be a threesome
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: bitches or bitches might be fucking each other whatever. You
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You know what? You know what
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: I do? Uh DDG does who's a rapper. But he
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: also he started as a YouTuber, so d d G
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: on his only fans pretty much just a giveaway game.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: So he'll be like trying to teach you how to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: go viral on YouTube, like like Batman Kevo. Yeah exactly,
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: shout out to him, similar to that. Yeah, they pretty
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: much like you just go on there and like giving
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: out gaming. Yeah, I feel you got a lot of
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: game to give out, Yeah for sure, but you could
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: sell it, yeah, sellers. You got to know how to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: market it. You just gotta know how to market it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: I mean marketed with some hosts to you know what
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, figure it out. You got ten chicks. They're
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: called the Filthy Models. That's teen Filthy ten Filthy team,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Filthy Team Filthy. I like that. What was the name
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: of the Do you remember the team of models that
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: were based in Miami in the early twenty tens that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: were lit as fun Are you talking about something. Angels,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: tazzs angels, tazzas angels. That was what happened to that ship.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: What happened to Taz. Did anybody ever see him? Yeah?
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: I think so. I thought he was like incognito. I
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: don't know, but I just remember everybody was all these
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like random ass chicks were moving about like the same thing,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like somebody just had some females like model. Prior to
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: only fans, imagine Tazz's angels be running it up on
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: the internet. My sure goodness, he'd have been killing it. Man.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: That was way before. Only fans who got on the app.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: You got ice wear Vessel on the project SETI Hendrix
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: SETI Hendrix af and pays my artist tutor bands of
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Skinny t Rich the Kid dear my hit. I got
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to look and see do you pay for features at
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: this point? No, it's all of that's. I feel like
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: if someone that I feel like that would be the case.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: There's certain artists that like, I feel like it's got
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to be a respect thing. Yeah, for sure. For sure.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I have before in the back in the day when
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I didn't just trying to rap and hey man, I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: want to hear you on my song type shit and
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: not knowing who you are, you not knowing who I
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: am type shit. But you know that comes to say
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: like that's being biased because you know niggas buy features
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: for me all day. That's true. So yeah, I think
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: it just also depends. Like if you got a deal
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: on a Drake feature, you be like, yo, it's something different,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: But at this point certain features worth paying for. Yeah,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they end up being relationships later on and the features
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: end up being you know, triple double whatever type shit.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you it just all
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: depends on how the ship, how it was handled. That's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: some real ship. Man, Who are you like right now
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: just on some fan ship, like outside of your crew,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: your label? What is the music you're listening to that
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: you enjoy? I really just only listened to like all
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: my artists are so many of them, you feel me?
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: So we always uh critique and everything. I've been trying
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to like drop something every month from the label, like
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: on some real master Peat type shit, like like a
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: tape every week running it up. Yeah like that. So
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that's how what's this April March? It's about to be April, yeah,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: so we already said for April we're working on May
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: now in June. So but other than that, like I listened, uh,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I've been listening to I was. I was real big
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: on baby Money out of Detroit before you got de
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Troy is going crazy man, baby money hard. You know,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: I fuck with the whole Detroit sound right, Yeah, I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: feel like yeah, we always talk about it on the show,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: like how Detroit and the Bay has like a real
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: connections honestly obviously dope game wise, you know all of that.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, You know, I just I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: love the culture. You know what I'm saying. I love
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the food, the strip clubs, the jury, the good money hustle.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: You feel me all that ship. You know, I really
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: be out there so I can relate to that ship
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Detroit to vibe give don't get it twisted, don't twisted.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, we gotta go to the Triple Change immediately.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: We gotta go to Detroit soon, and we're gonna be wherever.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Wherever the ship's popping off at is where we're gonna
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: be at because we gotta go shoot with like three
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: or four artists out there, like go see there where
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: they grew up and ships. So we're gonna be in
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: the in the thick of it. We was in. I
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: was like stuck out there for like a week in
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: the snow. I couldn't leave, like no flights, like the
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: snows like oh wow, like blocking the doors. What area
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of the bay are you from? Oakland Seminary East Oakland? Yeah,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: we were in. We were shooting some ship in Balletjole.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I won't say with who, but uh, it was hot. Man.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: You won't say with who. No, I'm wonta say with
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: with with which are just because it didn't work out.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But we pulled up in the in the Crest right
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: off the freeway SLB. No idea you said the Crest
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: ship was hot. Let's just say sh it was hot.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: I mean the Bay hot period, just like Detroit, like Balao, Richmond,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: San Francisco, Oakland, all that ship turned up. Yeah Bay
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: right now. I feel like the Bay right now is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: kind of like nationally got a really bad rap because
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: when we see a lot of the smash and grab ship,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: when we see a lot of the you know, homeless
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: fools going up into the Walgreens and just filling their
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: bag with ship and walking, it's all because you know,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Like I'll go there once a month,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: you know for Empire ship and the Walgreens like in
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the city and the CBS is are closed them. Ships
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is just but I don't think it was like a
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: bad rap, Like I feel like, well no, because I
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: think in the city of San Francisco they got that
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: law that they can't stop you and the cops will
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: prosecute you or arrest you you if you shop lift
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: under one thousand dollars. So that's why. So all the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: petty staff ship, so you'll see all these dudes going
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: in on their bikes just fucking rolling up in the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: fucking CBS did like a smash and grab out here
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: for like they did at Beverly Hills five million or
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: some shit. Yeah, that ship was crazy. Did you see
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the video? I just heard about it. Oh the videos crazy,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I'm like, damn, he's doing that ship everywhere.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I was at the smash and grab ships everywhere. Was
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that a jeweler in Vegas and they told me that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: they just came in there and did that ship there too.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: That's where it kind of sucks, like if you're in California,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: like because you can't really like you know, some people
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: pull some ship like that in Florida, they getting smoked
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: by the owner. In California, you probably if you shoot
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the guy, you're probably gonna go to jail before he
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: goes to It's crazy, like that's just the gun license ship,
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: the gun loass. And I think it's gonna I think
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: it's gonna chill out man, in Cali because I feel
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like people are starting to realize. I think they was
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: doing all that shit because like the like they was protesting, right,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: m hm, it was just protesting for some somebody somebody
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: got killed or something. Well there was the George Floyd
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: protest in June, or they were doing all that shit.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Could of that too. Yeah, it's been crazy, man. Cali's
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: been a crazy place the last couple of years. And
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: then Yo, So you know the one thing about the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Bay too that everyone is that's synonymous with the Bay, right,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it's bipping. Bipping is kind of like there's you'll go
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to the Bay and there's people who just leave all
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: their windows down. Not even when you leave the window down,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you know, like don't come through the window. But I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: saying they'll leave the windows down because they're like I'd
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: rather you just come into my car and see there's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: nothing in here. Then you break my fucking window and
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I have to replace it. Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah it
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: actually happened to me, not to meet personally, but rock
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Nation had came to Oakland. They were trying to sign
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: me and the guy had I had wanted to get
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: something to eat and I told him like be cool
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: like and they went up the street when got something
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to eat and like when they they walked in the store,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: they hit the ship. It's crazy, crazy like but a
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: lot of rappers though, like they come out there for Empire,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: they always get their ship hit, like a lot of
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: rappers and they jury took out there and all type
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of ship. I think it's very easy to spot a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: rental car. I mean if you're in that profession. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: if you're in that profession. If you are, you know
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: what a rental is just crazy because we we were
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: just driving the other day with downtown Oakland were like,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: that's the Bippers right there and they's driving around in
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: the cars just doing the circles. You could just you
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: could just know that you know what they're doing. Yeah,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy, like was it? Because you know I
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: feel like bipping in the bay is kind of like
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: you know, niggas normal money off that it's just normal.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of like when we think
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: of like people people like people get money in the streets.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: That's rich off that. That's what I'm saying, like crazy,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: like motherfuckersn't called me with all type of ship before,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and I'd be like, a motherfucker left this in the
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: car like who? It's almost like opening a fortune cookie,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: like who, you never know what you're going to get
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: ship in their car? Like that's crazy. I would never
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: leave this shit without saying, obviously, what's the craziest thing
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: you've heard? Someone getting out of someone's car? That's like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: what the fuck? Someone left that two hundred thousand like
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: faux five, watches, purses, all type of shit, like can
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you imagine leaving? I was like, damn, who the fuck
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: is this? Like is this like owner or something? Someone
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: left two hundred k in their car one thousand? I
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: know some rappers from Prey and got ribbed too. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: when I rib got bipped too for the jury, I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: got hit in Burbank. Someone followed me from the bank.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: I stopped at a UPS to get something notarized, and
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I had fifteen bands under my seat cash and they
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: took that ship. I was sick. Waitit wait they bipped
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, but I don't understand why people leave
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: shit like that in car. Well, bro, imagine I'm in Burbank.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It don't matter. I'm keeping my shit on. So this
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: is where I'm at. There's the UPS store. I park
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: like right there, right, I'm in and out. You thought
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: she was in it. They was in and out. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: get on my true detective ship. I figure out that
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: they followed me from the Bank of America. So before
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: I went to Bank of America, or after I went
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to Bank of America, I got gas, so I fucking
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: paid the owner of the gas station to give me
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the footage to see the car that pulled in behind
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: me and waited and followed me out. So I had
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: like a steal of the kind of car. I fucking
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: found their trash they threw away. They threw away McDonald's.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I tried to get the plate number, but I could
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it was too blurry. Bro, I was all my ship
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: though I sent. I had a homie in Chattanooga who
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: works at a CSI thing. I sent him to McDonald's
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: trash from the fingerprint. I'm like, bro, because I'm thinking,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get this money back. I'm not gonna
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: deal with the cops because they ain't gonna do shit.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, don't let me find out who these
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: people are. It's bad for them, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And I just I was, man, I almost had these motherfuckers. Bro.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I was so, oh, you ain't supposed to be Yeah,
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: never again. But I think though, if they followed you
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: from did all that, then they probably was just on
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: trying to bip you know what happened, That's what I'm saying.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So that's a whole lot so once I couldn't figure
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: it out. The cops they said that a lady followed
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: me out of the bank. A lady was like she
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: was like she kept like resetting herself on the line,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: because you remember during COVID the bank lines are crazy.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: So the late there was a girl in the bank
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: was just watching to see who was walking out with money,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and then she followed me out. They got in the
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: car and then followed me out. I didn't even really
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: go to the line you call like order money and shit,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: like that yeah. Well, really what happened was I went
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: there to get to open a business account, and I
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: brought the money to open the account. We're supposed to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: open an account for a publishing company. But my writer,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: who I was opening with, oh the bank money. So
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: they're like, if he's going to be on the account,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: we can't give you the account. If I pull up
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: with fifteen banks and I'm like, well, shit, I got
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: all this money on me. Can I just deposit this
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: into my account? She's like yeah, but you just gotta
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: wait in the line. And I was like, man, fuck
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: all this. Man, I like, I ain't waiting this fucking line.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I fucking never again did that before too, but I'm
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: kind of like cool with the people now, so never again. Man.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: We got to stop the interview right now. Listen, man,
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  Speaker 1: get back to the interview. What else I mean? Obviously,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: you know, with you and the label, like having ten
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: or twelve artists, a lot of people to look over
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: a lot of people's lives, a lot of careers. That's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: why I've been kind of like trying to fall back
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: from me doing the music so I could like folcus
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: on a lot of responsibility, a lot of bandwidth. Sure,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: how are you dealing with all that? Man? I ain't
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: gonna It's been easy. You know. We just had f
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: D weekend in Vegas. I have run out this big
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: old mansion or whatever. It's like twenty one rooms in it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: We got a lot of work done. A lot of
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: artists came, producers, engineers, shot a lot of videos. It's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: been doing different little things like that to where I
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: could like sit down and really be hands on with
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: everything and you know, and explain how this should worked.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: But it's really been easy to keep it real. It
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: ain't been too hard, like probably just like one artist
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: here and there. So yeah, no, I know, I just
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: know because you know, I work with artists, and I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: know it could be a lot. Yeah, it can be.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: It can't be. But you know me, like, I've been
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: doing this shit for so long, so I know how
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: to like you know what I'm saying, like, and you're
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: not doing it by yourself. You got you got a team,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, me and Chelsea. Yeah, shout out to Chelsea.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Me and Chelsea that's who you know who who helped
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: me with everything, and also my caraman Seem Colux. That's dope. Yeah,
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: they just did shout to Empire. The documentary that they
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: did about you was it last year? It came out
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: last year. Philip Beasley album. Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that was
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: dope to kind of just see like kind of behind
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: the scenes, like different side of You. It was a
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: lot more that we didn't use. I think we're gonna
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: do another one, but yeah, I just did that. Like
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I was kind of like transition. I was really trying
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: to fall back on doing the music myself because I
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: want to be able to give my artists in the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: label hundred percent. How many albums do you have in
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: your catalog that are on Spotify right now? We lost count, Like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: give me like a over one hundred, over one hundred.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: I think I dropped twelve tapes in like one year
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: to see if I could do it, and those are
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: all on the DSPs. Jesus man, those twelve that came up,
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: that was all on Empire. So I've been putting on
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: music like oh wait, so when you have that much catalog,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: because you know, I always try to tell artists if
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna stay independent, Like a lot of time, artists
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: overthink shit, yeah they never put music out, or they
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: overthinking and they sit on their hands too long. It's
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: like to me, I'm like, yo, run it up, because
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that's your residual income. What has been your biggest check
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: off of your catalog in a month you've done off
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: of streams? If you don't mind, I don't want to
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: be in your pots. Seventy five thousand. That's great, man,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: that's amazing. Seventy five thousand. And it came. I remember
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: I first got my first five g's and then because
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: I used to just put out just mixtapes, I used
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: to just run my mixtapes through Empire. Before I was
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: that Empire, I was dealing with urban life at right back,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: and I uhould just be twenty thirty fifty and then
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: uh and then god, he starts seeing the numbers. It
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, we need to do an album. This
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: before I even did this is the first album I
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: deal with Empires in twenty sixteen. Real Niggas back in style.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: So it's like, hey, we need to do a single
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and then and then based the single round the album.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: This is before I did the album, like we need to,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: we need to, we need to get it going. So
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I made that single make a Living with Sue, and
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: then I finally did the album. Other than that, I
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: was just running tape series some city money man's neighbor starts,
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just running through them, doing millions of views on the
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: videos and all the type of shit. So shit. And
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I think also back then, like YouTube paid a lot more. Yeah,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the YouTube money was great back then. Yeah, it was
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: a lot different because the other what was dope about
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: back then was if you had a distribution deal, they
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: didn't touch your YouTube money, so you were getting the
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: YouTube bag over here and then the iTunes over here.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: But now it's all all combined into one, which I'm like, damn,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: because that YouTube money was great yea, so it paid
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: way better than the streaming shit. So that's how that
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: used to work too. So I mean, you know, that's
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: why I'm able to be you know, like I get
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: paid twenty a show still to this day. You know
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, we're turning ten to fifteen a verse.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: That's big. So you go to a city post up.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: I'm in the city. If you got your bag right,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: come get the verse you No, I'll add this show
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: in KC. Not too long ago. Shit, before I even
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: got in the club, somebody was in the front waiting
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: to averse. So when I'm backing up, security like, hey,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: this guy right here and talk to you, like, what's up.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to do it verse, I'm like, okay, cool.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: He asked me the price, gave me the number. He
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: didn't even go on the show. He left when you
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: go get the bag together, told me to pull up
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: on him when I was doing with the show. I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: ended up pulling up on him after I was done
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: with the show. So manyo, I had a meet and
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: greet that day the show the verse and then missed
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: me doing the verse with him. Someone else came and
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: did a verse with him in a video all in
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: one night, so I didn't get back to the room
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: till like like six in the morning. Jesus just ran
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: it up. Not all that should like that be Boosy
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: be doing it ship like that, and you know just
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: on the road is running that ship up type of
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: ship yeah, Boozie is he don't get for sure, He's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: a real rap hustler, fucking rap hustling for real. Who's
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: somebody who inspires you because you're such a boss you
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: do your entrepreneurial ship. But who's an artist or just
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: someone in the game that's inspired you a lot that
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: you get more from. I fuck with Meek Tough, I
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: fuck with little Baby Tough Ross. I fuck with anybody.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: I fuck with anybody that's like, you know, aspiring. You
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. People I can relate to. People
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I can see you know that been through something and
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: really you know, living a dream and and you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: happy where they are in life type ship, you know
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, taking care of their family, putting they
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: niggas in position, you know what I'm saying, and just
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: motivating them a person to go harder, you know what
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, And never being content with it. That's what
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Like I don't even check my bank account. I will
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: not like, I will not look at it. Why because
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to know what. I don't want to
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: know because I don't want to be content because if
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you see it, you might be like I could chill out.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I don't want to do it, like you have someone
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: checking your bank account for you. I have accounting the
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: doing it now because and then every time something gets spent,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: it sends me a text I got you, But I
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: don't never want to know what's in it to where
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: I just be like, okay, I got five mill I
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: can just relax. No, I don't never like I get
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: mad if something like I don't even check the receipt
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: like oh yeah, I got they give me a receipt,
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: I won't even look at it like they asked me
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to receet. I say, no, that's funny. Yeah, Like I
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: don't want to be like, oh I could just sit
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: back and do nothing right. I just feel like at
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: that time being, if you do it, then somebody else
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: can come in and take that spot. Like I always
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: just want to work, keep working harder and harder and harder,
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: and never I figured out. I figured out, But I'm
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: not just I won't do it. Uh. You obviously went
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: through one of the more in my opinion, dope rap
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: beefs recently because you guys kept it on our own record,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: are you and Masie? It was bothly. That was like
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: three years ago, two years ago. I don't know that's how,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: but it was to me, it was like dope because
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: it reminded me of, like, you know, just some ship
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: that I grew up on, people keeping it up, putting
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: dope songs out. Yeah, because I feel like nowadays, man,
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: like we saw King Vaughan, you know that ship with Kwondo.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think he had a rap beef with what
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It wasn't even like that's the
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: weirdest thing about out the Dirk and Young Boy thing.
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you guys aren't even from the same city.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: I'm so confused. This is strictly some hip hop shit.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I think that shit was like over a bitch or something,
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: But I just thought it was dope. That Like, I
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: feel like you guys did that shit the right way
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: because you guys have mutual homies. You guys got mutual business,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and you guys had obviously a disagreement and it ended
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: up on record and it was what it was and
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: everyone moved on. Yeah for sure. You know me, I don't.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I don't hold no grudges. I ain't mad at nobody,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I've been doing my thing.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Fel'm continued doing my thing, you know, So I don't
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: wake up every day thinking about, you know, the past
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: or anything else. I'd be focused on the future. It's
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing, man, when you like see some of
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: these younger artists who you might fuck with. I feel
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: like recently we've just seen so much bullshit going on
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of just people keeping one foot in, one
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: foot out on the rap shit. And you know, we
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: see people losing their freedom pou shisty, we see people
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: losing their life. We see a lot so much going on, Like, like,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: what would be some advice you would give to some
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: of those younger artists who maybe haven't I tell my
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: artists all the time not to even make this record,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: not to even fall into the negativity, and understand it's
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: come with the music game. Everybody not gonna like you.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a lot of people from your past
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: to remember or I remember he wasn't doing this. I
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: remember he didn't have this like hater type shit. You
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: get what I'm saying. So it comes with it. You
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: gotta have tough skin for it. And if you ain't
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: ready for hate, you ain't ready for success. But then
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: also you got to understand too when you when you
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: coming from the hood or the trenches, and you give
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: these kids money. I never had money before. And they
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: also had this streat mentality, Like it's like they feel
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: like they can't be touched and don't really care about
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: the certain things that they should be worried about until
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: later on, you know what I'm saying. So that's like
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: why I never choose to like pop ecstasy or appeals
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and shit like that, because a lot of people from
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: my neighborhood used to get high and then they wake
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: up not knowing what they did. Ter on in the
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: interrogation room. Wow, you know what I'm saying, they'd be like,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: what the fuck happened last night? So like, and I
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: knew a lot of people from my neighborhood lost their
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: mind like early, like like young dudes like twenty years old,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: like smoking crack now because he donet pop the bad
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: ecstasy pill and fucked him off. And this was like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: a fly nigga that used to hoop and get good
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: grades in school, you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, man,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I don't never want to play with myself like that,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because I've seen how you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: just like how they doing it right now, how they
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: pressing up the pills which they found the all type
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: shit like that people dying like this was back then,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Like you know what I'm saying, This was the heype
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: movement days when Nigga's popping six exit pills losing their mind.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, hell nah, Like you
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: never got down with that, shiit? No? I never. I
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: only think I ever did was smoke with you. Sip sirr?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: That was it? Do you still say it? Nah? I've
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: been stopped alone time ago. Was that hard to stop?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Because I know some people say it's pretty tough to
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: get off? No, it wasn't hard. My whole thing I was.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I was amusing, I was getting too high. It wasn't
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: hard for when I kicked it. It was like I
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: damned her, like not paying attention when I would be
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: doing that. Damned there probably sip a brick in the day.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because I used to. When
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: I used to buy a pint. I used to have
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: like the twenty ounce cream sodas and I pour like
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: a four in there in each one of them, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I done drunk like four of them, and I'm fucked off,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, not even knowing. I shoot
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: a video. I actually I shot a video. Somebody came
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: in town paid me for a verse in the video.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: I shot the video. I drunk one right here doing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: this scene. One at this scene, one at this scene,
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: one of this scene. That's the whole brick. Yo. That's
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: crazy because I'm not even paying attention to what I'm
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: doing it. So it's so good. But you know they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: say something that something that's that good, ain't that's too
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: good for you? So when they I woke up, you know,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I woke up fucked up one day and I was like, man,
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: if I make it, man, I'm done. And I just
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: been done ever since. Damn. Yeah that's good man. Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, the lean thing is like I'll,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's something that people really enjoy, but
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: it's also like it's like your body dependent on it,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: and it's just like if you're drinking a good ass
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: soda and you just keep drinking that ship over and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: over and it's gonna keep drinking it, but you're not
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: knowing that the sugar or whatever, the caffeine or whatever's
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: fucking you up. You don't even realize it until Yeah,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: that's real ship. You talked about the rock Nation ship.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I remember hearing about that. I think I think you
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: told me about it before. What what made you initially
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: not want to sign shout out the rock Nation? Who's
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: trying to sign you? Earl damn okay? Fuck with dang
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: still to this day, and its not necessarily him is
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: the one who who wanted what they wanted, but he
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: was the one who brought the situation, you know, together.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: But they just wanted to my past catalog and the
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: masters and it's a super now and that's what the
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: mind you just was right before COVID. So if I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: would have did that, I was just been paying them
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: for nothing. So they wanted so they wanted to sign you,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: and then all your catalog they want to come bring
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: it over, and that's fucking crazy. And it was just
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: saying like we're gonna build this and we're gonna tour
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: with this person and all that and all that, and
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm like, man, we can start
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: from here, Like if you want to start from new
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: music going for I can't do it back. Luckily I didn't,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And shout out to like
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: I said, shout out to rock Nation for the opportunity.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: But they do a lot of artists like that, and
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: they was naming off all the other artists that got
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the same type of deals and this is and this. Yeah,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: but that's not that's not a good deal, not at all.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, especially not for independent artists that's
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: been living off music to where now I gotta wait
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: for y'all and I gotta get it's like, damn, y'all
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: don't have nothing to do with these albums. Yeah, why
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: would you add all that red tape right right right
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: after that, I mean right after that pandemic, So it
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: wouldn't it wouldn't have been no shows, no nothing. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: would have just been it would have been stuck because
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: you can't just drop when you want now. No, not
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: even that, Like the whole thing was they were going
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: to put me on tour. I'm supposed to be doing
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: this and doing that, but all that was shut down
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: to the pandemic. So I wouldn't even getting no money.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: I should be giving you all money for free, thank god.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: That Yeah, yeah, you would have just been Yeah, where's
• 45:21
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  Speaker 1: the interview. Yeah, any artists, if you have catalog and
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  Speaker 1: you try to sign a deal, and now it's different
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  Speaker 1: if they just say we just want to distribute it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, because that's a different situation. But if they're like, no,
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  Speaker 1: bring bring your catalog over to our label, that I'd go,
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  Speaker 1: go fuck yourself. The short to understand too. So how
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: I look at it as you know a lot of
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: people that complain about the artists putting out too much music.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not signed to a record label, so why would
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  Speaker 1: I not put out as much as you I can?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Because that's where I get paid from. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: numbers game, man. Yeah, So if I'm getting paid whatever
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting paid off each album, why would I not
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  Speaker 1: keep dropping the numbers game? Like when you're on a major.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: They want you to drop an album, then tour a year,
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  Speaker 1: and then come back and dropped in because they putting
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  Speaker 1: the money up before you and and everything else. Yeah,
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: they can tell you what song they don't want on here,
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: what picture they don't want. I done heard artists like, okay,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: they want me to sign over here, but they wanted
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: me to take off my tattoos or cut my drade
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: like that. They want to control you because they putting
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: the money up, So they want you to look a
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: certain way, they want you to wrap a certain way.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: This is what they feel will work. I feel like
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: artists nowadays are at least becoming more transparent and understanding
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: that they might be in shitty deals inventing that. You know,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like we've seen me, we've seen yg. We've seen a
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: lot of people be like, yo, I didn't get no
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: money off my music. Because what happens is you take
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: the advance, and that has to if you take if
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: you get a million, that's just an easy number to
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: work with. A million dollars on a major label, you're
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: probably only owning seven to twelve percent of your user
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: so much just to get that million back, because they go,
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: you got to make that ship back over ten times
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  Speaker 1: before you recoup. It's like, bro, that's hard to do.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: So that's where all the other things and endorsements and
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: everything else come in. That's what they're living off of
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: in the shows and shit. Yeah, but when that shit
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: drives up, that's where you would see these artists during
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the pandemic like, man, fuck my label, I ain't see
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: no money since. And then they get back trapping again,
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: and then they get caught up. Nah. I think that's
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: really what COVID did, was it made y'all realize, yo,
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: know all these motherfuckers for the most part, you know,
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: and these are good guys that fuck with a lot
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: of them. But when you take that easy upfront check,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: you're signing off on a lot of bullshit in that deal. Yeah,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I mean you got to make that. Fuck it, make
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that given. Tell you a friend what they want back,
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: and and I don't feel bad. And if you're not
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: able to make that back, bro, I don't feel bad
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: because you signed the fucking deal like you, we're talking
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  Speaker 1: grown ass men. You signed a contract like you either
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: you needed the money, you don't took an advance before
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: took advance. But it's different. I feel like it's it's
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: different splits. Yeah, it's different, but you can't sell your soul,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And it took an advance before,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: but I made mine back I recouped, So yeah, that's
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: how it works. So now a lot of them take
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: the advance. Imagine if you get off. Imagine if you
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: only get eight percent, how hard it is to recoup that. Now,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: if you do like a distro situation and you got
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: an eighty, twenty, sixty, forty, ninety ten, whatever, it's a
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: lot easier to recoup. But if you have eight percent
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: out of one hundred, that means ninety two pennies of
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: every dollar goes into the labor's pocket and only eight
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: cents And you don't get the eight That eight cents
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  Speaker 1: goes towards your balance that you oh, that you oh
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  Speaker 1: even go in your pocket. It does not go on
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  Speaker 1: your pocket. You gotta fuck forever to pay that shit
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  Speaker 1: up forever. You gotta be fucking the weekend or somebody,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You gotta be drake like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's like good luck,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think people understand like when you
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: look at you know i'd be looking at people's numbers
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: except be like, Okay, if he did twenty million streams
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  Speaker 1: times twenty times four thousand, I mean shit, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, I mean, that's cool money, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But like you know, like how
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  Speaker 1: are you? What's your overhead? What's your overhead? A lot
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  Speaker 1: of these you gotta understand too. A lot of these
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  Speaker 1: rappers like that's all they ever did was rap, so
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  Speaker 1: they don't have many really other hustles or whatever. So
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: like if they get that money and fuck that money off,
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: it's over. And it happens more often than not, especially
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  Speaker 1: your first deal. Most people's first deal is all bad.
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  Speaker 1: Go buy chains, call, bring all the homies on the road,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: all of all the drugs, all this shit. Man, you
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  Speaker 1: are you pretty? Like you? Do you travel deeper? Like
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: did you move around with a lot of people or
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  Speaker 1: like like home or are you talking about like out
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  Speaker 1: of town? Let's say you out of town. Like for
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: my writer, it's like four rooms and five flights. That's
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, that's not bad. I recently tried to
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: book an artist for a show or for a club,
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  Speaker 1: and they wanted fifteen flights, and I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: this isn't gonna work. Guys. You know I've seen some
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: shit like that. I got booked for a show with
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: the artist before, and that niggashit was crazy. It was
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  Speaker 1: like he wanted twenty five chicken wings, fifty lobster tails.
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  Speaker 1: He wanted like some crazy shit. Didn't even eat none
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  Speaker 1: of it. That's how it came and came there and
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  Speaker 1: counted it like he came to the He came there
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  Speaker 1: and counted this shit like I didn't book him. I
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  Speaker 1: was on the show with him, but the guy was
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  Speaker 1: telling me, like his writer, how crazy shit was. But
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you know, if you the promoter, you agree to I
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  Speaker 1: That's real up to you. There it is, man, all right, Well,
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: look the album is out motivational purposes. Uh talk about
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the April slate of your artist that you got dropping
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: so April first, I'm Friday. Next Friday, we got to
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  Speaker 1: the bands dropping HBO two. I met him nice guy,
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  Speaker 1: Funny Guy, Skinny te just drop, just bangs, just drive.
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  Speaker 1: We got Loso, we got a little Steve, we got
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: a little Tray, we got Rascal Fetti. He just dropped
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  Speaker 1: you know, we got my nephew, he twelve years old,
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  Speaker 1: Jay Money. Oh ship, Yeah, he just dropped the t
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Are you helping him? Right? No? He writes his own ship.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Everything is got videos, he do everything and so he
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  Speaker 1: he went of a cond that's fucking that's lit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So we're just working man. We just I'm about to
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  Speaker 1: drop a fo D compilation album on May knife. It's
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  Speaker 1: called The Infrastructure fifty Rich Presents fo D. So I
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: like that. That's the next big move for everybody. Got
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: the whole label on there. So and then from there
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  Speaker 1: we just just pushing out tapes. I think Skinny and Steve,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, Skinny and Steve got an album coming out,
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: Stuck on Seminary for Tutor and Skinny got album coming out.
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  Speaker 1: we got we got slowly on the album too, on
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  Speaker 1: the FOD infrastructure. So uh, lots at a lot of
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: good lots. It's gonna be a busy year. Yeah, it's
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: never not a busy year for you. Got to man,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: your calmest year in the last ten years where you
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: were like like where you put out the least amount
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: of music maybe last year. Last year it was like
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: two tapes, maybe three, No, it was three. It was
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: a it was a Philip Beasley and I had a
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: group album with Tutor and then solidified, So it was
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: only three tapes that year. Most people can't get three
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: tapes out in their whole career. So other than that,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: everything else been turned up there it is, Man, appreciate
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