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Ohtani 50/50 · The 3-0 Take

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Three O Take, where we talk
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all things Major League Baseball.
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Here's Kyle Corwin and Nate Reyes.
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It. All starts right now.
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Welcome back to the three O take presenter by Sea Kick.
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This episode 469 I'll be your host Kyle Corden.
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I'm here with my Co host Nate Reyes and Nate
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KC Tony. K go, the vocals warmed up.
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I was going to say, something real big happened this evening.
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Huge. Monumental.
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Perfect timing. He's looking out for us.
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Hey I. You know, I was actually
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thinking about it tonight. I think I actually owe you for
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this, You know, You know, it's crazy.
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It's crazy the way that kind of works sometimes, No.
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So a little quick run down here. We apparently our Internet cable
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got severed underground on like while we were out of town last
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week. Throw them under the bus.
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So I get help. No, I don't, I don't know who it
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is or who is responsible entirely.
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I have, I have, I haven't an inkling, but I, I'm, I don't
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know entirely. Anyway, new neighbors, we were
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on a some they're going to be knocking on on our door here
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tomorrow. Anyway, could not record on
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Sunday like we usually do Sunday night.
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So we had to push it to Monday meeting.
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We had to push our usual Wednesday recording back to
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today, Thursday night, right? So then Nate hits me up today
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and goes, hey, I want to be home from work a little early.
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Why don't we hop on a record? And I was like, all right,
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sounds good. And then some, some scheduling
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things popped up and we said now we're just going to have to go
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with the original plan record at night.
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And then Shohei Otani shows up on the scene and says, boys, I
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gotcha. I know you guys were talking,
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planning on talking about some teams that have maybe clinched
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or or punched their tickets to the postseason, but I've got a
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better story for you, arguably the best story at this point in
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time, at this point in the season that you could possibly
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run with. We could argue.
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We could argue that. And boy did he do it.
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It. I mean, what the Unicorn thing
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gets thrown out there a lot. The the greatest of all time,
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the greatest we've ever seen gets thrown out there a lot.
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But like, at what point do we look at what Shohei Otani's
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doing and in the more importantly, in the way that
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he's doing it and go this just truly might, like, we quite
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literally may never see a guy like this again.
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Because to do what he did to, to establish the 5050 club in the
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way that he did it, nobody does that.
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The only person in baseball that's doing that is Shohei
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Otani. I'm convinced I'm people may
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disagree with me. I I'd like to see it otherwise
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because I I don't think it's possible.
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I mean, now, now it's, it's a little more possible than it's
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ever been. I'm First off, I'm not going to
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be in the camp that just tears down what we just witnessed by
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just slapping the it's because of rule changes on this.
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But I think because of the rule changes, it now opens up
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opportunities for other players like this.
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However, like you said, Unicorn dude, like he's he's not he's
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not normal. This is not normal.
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This is insane. It's insane that he has affected
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the game in this way. And I think you have amazing
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players that come through. You have generational talent
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that comes through. You have players that become the
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face of a franchise for decades, sometimes or maybe even forever.
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You have players that come through and they win multiple
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MVPS. You have players that win
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multiple championships. You have players that can do one
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category really well. It's super, super, super rare to
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have a player come in and change the way baseball is played
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throughout the world at different levels.
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You see what I'm saying? Like what he's doing is
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inspiring other two way players in a way that we haven't seen
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before. It's inspiring 5 tool players.
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It's inspiring coaches to be accepting of these talents and
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not making players choose one or the other and bail on the other.
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That to me is what has to be part of the greatest ever
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conversation in argument. And and you can't compare him
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the way you compare other players because of how different
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he is. So are we going to look at
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numbers at the end of this and say that he holds all of these
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records at each one? I don't know.
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Most likely not. But at the same time, like we
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are going to be able to look at what he has done for the game as
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a whole. And I don't know, dude, like I
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you got to go back to like people like going through the
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the frontier, you know, in the different ways, right, Like the
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way Jackie Robinson went through it in certain ways, the way
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Willie Mays went through it in certain way, like certain
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aspects of the game or like those guys are at the top of the
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mountain. But sometimes we'll go twenty
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30-40 years before seeing it again.
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And we're we're witnessing it now.
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We're seeing it now. And I'm not just going to sit
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here and like, I feel like it's strange to dumb it down to 1
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great season and just like compacted into a 5050, yeah,
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that's fantastic. Like that, that's amazing to see
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and watch. But like, it has to be a part of
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the rest of the argument. The rest of the conversation is
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everything else he's doing for baseball.
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Then the way it just ripple effects across this game, like
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whether you're a Dodger fan or not, whether you're, I don't, I
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don't know anyone that's not a show hey fan.
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But whether you're a show hey fan or not, you got to, you got
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to accept that dude, do you like you got to take that in?
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I love Aaron Judge. I think Aaron Judge is super
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dope and I love watching them all the time.
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This is just different. Well, you you talk about what
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the conversation is going to be after show.
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Hey, calls it a career. I think with the shift in
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narrative, the shift in focus, emphasis on players who are
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eligible for the Hall of Fame or just have, have, have put forth
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a body of work that's worth admiring whether or not they're
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eligible for the Hall of Fame or not.
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If, if they've put forth a career that's like, wow, that we
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need to really talk about that. There's been a, there's been a,
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a, what I think is a pretty significant shift in looking
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more so less at the career as a whole.
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Because you see how that affects a guy like Andrew Jones where
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it's like, well, you have to take the whole, like the, the
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whole time he was on the ballot, you, you look at that and you
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go, well, I mean, he, he stuck around for too long.
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So there's been a shift, I think in in the minds of the voters,
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in the minds of baseball fans and and just the baseball world
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in general of looking at these these peaks, if you will, or
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like the like five to seven years of like what their
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dominance factor looked like. Shohei is going to be in a
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league of his own when it's all said and done.
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I mean, nobody's doing this. And to go back to the game
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tonight, sit in case you're just now catching up. 646, three home
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runs. I I was even unaware that he had
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he, he hit the third one. I thought it was like, oh, wow,
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he, he snuck in, he snuck in that 50th in the same game
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because he hit 49 and they're going, wow, is he going to do it
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tonight? He seems pretty locked in.
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He's like, yeah, I got 50 and then I also got 51 for you.
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Still in the chamber. 2 double SA single, ten runs batted in,
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four runs scored and two stolen bases to give him the keys, the
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only keys to the 5151 club at the end of the night.
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I think I saw it was 17 total bases.
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Is it is that is that correct 17 total bases and for those
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keeping track at home, if this still matters to you, it well,
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at least for the the point structure in our fantasy league,
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which is has now come to an end. But out of curiosity, I just
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went back and checked it what his number was today, a 33 point
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day for Shohei Otani. He's giving you like no hitter
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perfect game numbers just for a for a night out at the plate.
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That's that's what he gave you in terms of the fantasy value
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today. But just, I mean, just an
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unbelievable feat. And I'll be honest, like the
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5050 is, is certainly impressive and I'm I'm not going to take
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anything away from that. But to me, the more impressive
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thing here is just that it's another addition to his already
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mind blowing resume. Like this is just another thing
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that he can, he can add to that he another notch in the belt
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that he can, he can take ownership of.
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And like I said, maybe even more impressive than that.
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You take it up another level. It's just the ways in which he
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does these things. Like we go back to the what was
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it? It was the the 4040 when he made
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that official. That was the walk off.
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Is that a walk off Grand Slam? It was, was it?
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I don't think it was a walk off, was it?
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I'm was it a walk off? Was it was it a walk off, home
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run or maybe walk off? I'm 99% sure it was walk off
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Grand Slam. It was a for sure a Grand Slam,
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but I don't think it was a walk off.
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I thought it was. I thought it was in the eighth.
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I'm like 99% sure as a walk off Grand Slam.
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I thought it was. I thought it was in like the 7th
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or the 8th. I honestly can't remember.
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Because I remember Jose Siri. No, it was a walk off Grand
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Slam. It was a walk off Grand Slam.
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Dang dude, that's that's just sick.
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I mean, that's what I'm saying though, who?
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Like this is unfathomable. You lose track.
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You lose track. It's hard to like, remember all
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these things like. That right there goes to show
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you just how frequently and and with what pizzazz he does this
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with. He's yeah, he notched the 4040
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club with a walk off Grand Slam. And we're struggling to remember
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it because the 5050, the way in which he did, he notched the
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5050 staring us right in the face and we're trying to
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remember how he did what? Guy's a a freak, man.
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It's insane. It is it is insane.
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And when you, if you were who, if you're listening to this, I'd
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like to think you're watching some highlights or seeing TikTok
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videos of tonight's performance. The purity of a hitter.
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When you're watching, it's like laces a ball to right field for
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a single, a rising line drive off the wall for a AA inside
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out, double to left center, a home run to left, a home run to
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right, a tank job to deep right field.
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And I know it's against the position player.
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I get it. Hey, it counts in the book.
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It does in the book. That's a 9098 mile an hour
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heater. That's right.
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Yeah, dude, it's, it's really, really fun to watch.
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It's it's crazy when you hear the best players in the world
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saying, no, no, he's not, he's not like anything I've seen
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before. It's crazy when you have riders
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who've been covering baseball for 30-40 years.
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I mean, like, I haven't seen this before.
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This is this is a different thing.
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I went to the I told you I went to the All Star game in in
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Denver a few years ago and. I remember you texting me.
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He was in that Home Run Derby too, and when he was taking BPI
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was up in like deep. I was up in like third deck,
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right field by all, like the bars and stuff.
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And I was like, I can hear the difference from here.
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It's just a little different. The way his balls are like whoa,
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easy. The way.
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The way. The way the BP what pause?
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Big pause. Big pause.
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Dude, I, I mean, I know this on me.
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I know like everybody, their mother right now is Glaze and
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Otani and we're just another, another cog in the machine
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that's like. That's on me.
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What are we doing? The way the way the baseballs
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were hitting the seats and like hitting the crowd, it was like,
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no, that's just, that's just not the same as everybody else.
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Unbelievable, unbelievable. It gave it gave me and I think I
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think this game is better for a multitude of reasons, but it
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gave me like just like the the exclamation point of how when
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Jeter got his three thousandth hit as a home run and it was a 5
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for five day. Like that's how I remember that.
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Like I remember 3005 for five, it was a home run.
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That picture right there off of David Price.
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This gives me that same thing was like, oh, so he did 50 for
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50, never done it before. And he did it on a night where
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he went 6 for 60 and he had three jacks.
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Oh, seventeen stolen stolen total bases with two stolen
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bases on top. Like stolen bases, Yeah.
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That it's just, it's too much. This is too much.
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There's not enough room in the newspaper, in the box score for
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all this stuff. This man's different fun to
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watch and the. Same, the same guy that you're
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describing right now is a guy that we have the fortune of
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watching every single night and has the potential.
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It obviously doesn't do it do something like this every single
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night, but he's the type of player that has the potential.
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If he if he was clicking on all cylinders, could could do this
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night in and night out. Yeah, that's the kind of player
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he is. It's just it impossible to wrap
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my head around. I'm a little I'm struggling with
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the idea that baseball fans in Miami knew that this was on the
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brink and didn't fill that stadium.
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Up well that tells you what you need to know about Miami.
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I know I'm sure it's it's I swear it's it's always something
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with every fan base. It what is it with Miami?
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Because in in Saint Pete, it's the it's the bridge.
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What is it with Miami? Is there like is there like a
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hot dog vendor on the corner that's a little extra pushy that
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causes people to be late into the ballpark?
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It's something with every every fan base of what the every fan
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base. I should say not not all of
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them, but every fan base that struggles with attendance.
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There's always a fall back. So what is it with Miami?
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Because you make a great point this everybody knew this was on
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the verge of happening. And the fact that, I mean, I'm
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looking at the episode graphic right now that I've already
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created, there's a lot of blue in just that that image that I'm
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looking at. So like.
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And Dodgers fans are everywhere. I would venture to say 98% of
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the people in the ballpark were Dodgers fans and I'd like.
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To think that if if I was, if I was a Marlin fan and your season
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is is done, like I'd still want to go watch the Dodgers, I'd
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still want to go watch Mookie, Freddie and Otani.
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I mean, the the, the pay, the payroll that the Dodgers are
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sporting right now is probably the entire value of the Marlins
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franchise since they became a franchise.
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So like, yeah, that's a lot of star power.
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Maybe take it in. They chose not to.
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That's fine. Get out of there.
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No, that's your response. For Get out of Miami.
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No, you said that about the white.
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Sox on the Portland. No, because then if they have
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problems with the tenants, you're going to say we'll move
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them to Portland and it's just going to be a constant merry go
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round of. Go to West Virginia.
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Let's not do that. Anything else on on Otani, we
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got to talk. Just you mentioned Dodgers,
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Dodgers fans, they've got some additional good news.
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It's a big night. Big night for the Dodgers
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clinching their ticket to the postseason.
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Something we obviously knew was going to happen this this late
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in the game. But it it always hits a little
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different. Even if you're expecting it, it
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hits a little different when it becomes official.
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You start seeing those, those little tiny letters next to your
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team's name and the MLB standings.
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It's a it's a beautiful thing when a when a team can finally
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stop. Take a breath, reflect on, even
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if for a little bit, reflect on the season that they have.
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They have put together the body of work that they have put
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forth, even with the team that's as loaded as the Dodgers, You
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know, good, good for the Dodgers.
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Be able to make it official tonight.
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Just a big night for Dodgers fans.
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Big, big night. Yeah.
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I, I remember for like a week, people were talking about like
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who the Padres are going to get them, the Diamondbacks could
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catch them, and that was it. And it was, it was just like for
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a week, that was a conversation. It wasn't a conversation for
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months. There was a little bit of a
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skid, other teams got hot and then that was it.
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The Dodgers just kind of put an end to that conversation.
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And I get it. I understand Dodgers fans.
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Trust me. I'm just like you.
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This doesn't really matter that much, right?
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The trophy is the only thing we care about.
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That's what we got to stay focused on.
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I understand that. Do you guys even, you mean the
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Yankees fans? Do you even remember what the
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trophy looks like? I don't, Personally, no I don't.
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I haven't seen it in a. While no, I was just, I was just
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kidding. No it wasn't.
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It wasn't a dig. I was just genuinely curious.
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Something with flags, I don't know.
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So yeah, it's. It's a good thing.
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It's a good, it's a good thing that they have this.
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It's a good thing that they can figure out a way to try and get
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healthy, do what they need to do to somehow get pitching geared
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up and get In Sync. So yeah, good for good for the
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Dodger Blue faithful. Let's let's shift gears here to
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one of their NL counterparts, who were actually the first team
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to clinch a division, in fact, the only team as of right now,
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correct? Yeah.
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Really. Pretty sure.
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Please hold. Yeah, only team as of this
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moment to have clinched vision first, first and only let.
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Me just because of how bad. My, I, I wanted to take a minute
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to just talk about can we, can we speculate a little bit, sure,
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a little bit as to what's going on in the mind of Craig counsel
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right now? How do you mean?
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Just being a little being a little pissed, being a little
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bitter. Look at how this is panned out.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, I understand that.
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I get that. I think, I think he went to
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Chicago knowing it was going to be a little bit of a work in
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progress, right? You'd like to think so.
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I no, I hear you and I'm not I'm not.
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First of all, I'm not like anti Craig counsel here.
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I just thought this was an interesting talking point given
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the way things have developed have developed.
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I'm not against Craig counsel. I've I've said for years now
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that I think he's one of the the brightest baseball minds in the
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sport. I'm just saying it regardless if
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if he's abiding by the whole trust, the processing with the
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Cubs and he it's a work in progress.
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Regardless of all of that, it still has to sting when you have
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the team that you jump ship from in your division, go on to win
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that division and do it in such a dominating fashion.
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They're 10 1/2 up right now. I mean, I don't think it was
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that when they clinched a few nights ago or a couple nights
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ago, but like, that's got to sting a little bit.
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I mean, they didn't miss a step with Pat Murphy, it seems.
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Yeah, yeah. And honestly, you know, I was
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reading some commentary on that whole thing.
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Good on Pat Murphy. I mean, I know, like if there's
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an opportunity for you to be a big league manager, that's going
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to become your priority. But like, if you're Pat Murphy
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and maybe you didn't entirely feel ready to take that on it, I
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don't I I don't know what was going on there.
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You could have very easily went to Chicago with counsel who you
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were. I think it was his bench coach,
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right? Could have easily went to
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Chicago with him and had it made in the shade and been you could
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have continued to stay under one of the the the best minds in
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baseball and just continue to do what you had been doing.
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He did have an interim manager stint there briefly.
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I don't even remember who with. But yeah, it's like good on Pat
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Murphy for for staying put and staying with with your guys and
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seeing it through. And we'll see how October shakes
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out for him. But this is a heck of a start
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for them in that journey. It's kind of wild thinking back
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to a year ago when like, everyone's freaking out,
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including us, when they traded Josh Hader and you're just like,
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what? What's going on?
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What are they doing? Well, that was.
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What's their What's their direction?
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Was that only? A year ago, wasn't that.
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Two years ago? I thought it was last.
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No, that was a year ago, wasn't it?
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I thought he got traded to the Padres last year.
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I thought it. Was right.
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No, you're right. Yeah.
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And like, you know, Devin Williams is in the clubhouse.
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He's like, yeah, like, I don't know.
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I don't know, man. Like I'm kind of lost.
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Like, there. It was interesting.
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It's been an interesting ride. Christian Yelich, like, started
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to come back. Now he's not around like you.
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You've you've got a quiet, sneaky assassin and Willy
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Adamus. We had a pitching staff who is
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doing extremely well. You've young promising names
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like Jackson Cheerio and and William Contreras are going to
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like, I think going to go on to do some things in the middle of
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that lineup for a while. It's it's strange and I think
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it's just like randomly got here, especially for like us
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fans who may not be locked in the Milwaukee Brewer baseball
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throughout the year. I don't know if it's, I don't
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know if random is the right. Word.
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I'm not, I'm not saying like they they I'm not saying this is
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like a a blind squirrel finds a nut every once.
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In a while you're saying for like non Brewers people it just.
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This is like this is we just ended up here like all of a
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sudden. Yeah, that's fair.
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They're clenching the division and we're currently at a double
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digit lead. And I get it, like the central
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is bad. I get that.
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I can understand that argument, but like, Dang it, dude, like we
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got to we got to talk about the fact that they're they're like
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top three in pitching across multiple categories.
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I think they have. I think they're fourth in team
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ERA as of yesterday at A365 and then offensively they've made
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improvements from last year. Big time.
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To where they were. It's always been the issue.
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They were like bottom third, even bottom of the barrel in
26:14
certain categories. This.
26:15
I think they've snuck in the top top 10.
26:18
For this year, yeah, they entered yesterday ranked 4th and
26:21
run scored and 11th in team OPS, which I know probably is going
26:25
to adjust by the end of the season, but I mean, they've made
26:28
they've made strides. It's impressive.
26:31
It really is like I, I know I've spent the last few years, if if
26:35
you've been listening for a while, you know, I'm never
26:38
really super impressed by the Brewers.
26:41
I think this is like a new age. This is a new, a new like fun
26:47
swagger with some of these names that you're like, OK, these are
26:50
guys that are going to be here for a little bit and props,
26:56
props on them, dude. Props on them for hanging on to
27:00
a Willy Adamus. Props on them for, you know,
27:03
handling this division. This you still got to as bad as
27:06
the division can be, still got to go and handle your business.
27:09
And they did. So despite what happens this
27:14
this postseason, if it's if it's a run, if it's an early exit, I
27:20
think this is a good pat on the back situation for the Brewers.
27:23
I think this is something you can take into the to the
27:26
offseason. Be like, hey, free agents, like
27:28
we're starting to play some ball over here.
27:30
Like we got a little something going.
27:32
And Brewers fans, you know, there ain't much else going on
27:37
in in Milwaukee, you know what I'm saying?
27:39
Like, you know, Jordan Love just went down for the Packers.
27:45
They don't know what's going on there.
27:47
It's really cold. You got a lot of cheese going
27:52
on. You just, you got a lot of
27:53
casseroles being passed around tapioca pudding.
27:58
What do we do? Why don't we just pull up a
28:01
chair and watch some? Brewers postseason baseball.
28:05
Hey, I'm really glad you mentioned that, that bit there.
28:09
I think you said something the effect of like it's time to turn
28:11
the page or something with these Brewers.
28:14
I was quite, I'm glad you brought that up because I was
28:16
quite literally thinking about that this evening where I was
28:19
like, you know, there's certain teams in baseball and I'm sure
28:23
if you're listening or watching you there, you probably have
28:27
like bits or narratives in your own mind that could maybe use
28:31
some refreshing. But I was literally thinking
28:32
this this evening where I'm like, you know, I think it's
28:35
time that we revisit some of our talking points that have that I
28:43
would almost argue have gotten stale, not necessarily because
28:47
of us, but just because of the way things have gone with those
28:50
teams or players. And like for the Twins, for the
28:54
longest time, for example, it was like year after year, I just
28:58
got tired of saying having the same conversation with you of
29:00
like, OK, they're going to make the playoffs, but then they're
29:03
just going to fall flat on their face.
29:04
And then it's like, OK, well, they finally got the they, what
29:07
was it last year? They finally won a game.
29:09
And it's like, whoa, OK, maybe we maybe maybe turn in and turn
29:13
into another page here with the Twins.
29:15
The Brewers are one of these teams where I'm like, OK, I
29:18
think with the way that they develop and this is
29:21
accountability. I'm not going to sit here and
29:23
play revisionist history. We, you said it yourself, you
29:26
and I both have been like pretty down on the Brewers.
29:30
But I think it's time that it's like you have to look in the
29:34
mirror and go, OK, based on the way they develop, based on the
29:36
way they acquire pieces and even sell off pieces that further
29:42
enhance their product moving forward, albeit over a longer
29:46
stretch of time. It's time we look at a team like
29:50
the Brewers and go, OK, it's time.
29:52
Maybe it maybe not fully or maybe not this second, but maybe
29:57
sometime soon we can lay to rest the like, hey, the Brewers are
30:02
just like a a flash in the pan, quick exit from the postseason
30:07
because they who knows, they might do something a little
30:09
different this year or next year or or beyond.
30:12
So get this. Build on it.
30:15
Yeah, I hate, hate when teams do this and they're like, we were
30:21
just few games away, let's just run it back with the same
30:24
roster. Let's not do anything to
30:26
advance. I hate that.
30:28
Well, let's just do this. Build on it.
30:30
You mentioned hater, you lose hater you.
30:32
We talked Craig counsel, you, Craig counsel walks out the
30:36
door, you lose Corbin Burns. It's like this, this division
30:41
clinched being the first team or the only team as of right now to
30:45
have the division clinched. It's it's kind of confusing
30:49
honestly. Like when you take into account
30:52
those those pieces that they have lost over the last year
30:55
too, the fact that they're here. And I think you said it best it
30:59
we just have, we're here. It just happened and we're here.
31:02
That's the best way to summarize it.
31:04
Got to this destination and look like this isn't like the last
31:07
team clinching. This isn't the last division
31:10
that's been decided. This isn't going into the final
31:13
like the last two or three games of the season.
31:16
This is the first team to clinch by double digits.
31:21
I mean, where? Where are they at right now?
31:23
84 wins. 88 and 6588. Wins 88 wins, maybe a 90 win
31:31
team in Milwaukee like, you know, demand a little respect.
31:36
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
31:38
OK, with this time to turn a page in Milwaukee, I think,
31:42
well, not in Milwaukee, but for the people that we're we're
31:48
ragging on the Brewers for the last handful of years, I think
31:50
it's time. I think it's time we look at
31:53
them through a new lens. Moving, moving.
31:57
Along rowdy, by the way, that's going to get.
31:58
That's going to get rowdy environment.
32:00
I want to touch on that at the end, if we have time, moving
32:04
right along here, Let's talk Yankees.
32:07
The Yankees have solidified their spot in the 2024
32:13
postseason. And they did it.
32:15
I got to say, the, the way the fashion in which they did it,
32:20
Like, come on, come on, Mariners.
32:24
If it's a guy, if there's a guy like me that's watching, hate
32:29
watching, admittedly, at least at least go down in a little bit
32:36
more of a respectable fashion instead of whatever Julio
32:39
Rodriguez was doing at third base.
32:43
I've yet to get the camera angle on that.
32:45
I don't know what happened because the bat got launched and
32:47
then the bat got. Launched and then.
32:49
Zoomed in on the bat and stays there.
32:52
OK, so so here's here. Oh, so you haven't seen the
32:55
other? You haven't.
32:57
Seen the other angle I've gotten, every video is the same.
33:00
So what happened is it was a Rose Arena launched the bat, the
33:05
bat goes fine. Naturally, swinging miss strike
33:08
three back goes flying up the third baseline.
33:12
And naturally, Julio does what all of us would do, kind of like
33:16
shies out of the way, make sure he protects himself.
33:19
Totally understandable. But then he just forgets that
33:22
there's a baseball game going on and it's like, I'm just going to
33:24
hang out here and and make my way back to 3rd when I'm
33:27
comfortable and and and ready to do so.
33:30
And then meanwhile Austin Wells is just lacing one down a third
33:34
base. Oh, you're out.
33:36
Threat eliminated. Sick.
33:38
Pretty sure it was what 21 at that point.
33:45
This was the 9th. No, I'm I'm like 99% sure it was
33:48
the 9th because this wasn't this their last day BI think anyway.
33:53
Not important. It was the 8th or 9th
33:55
essentially eliminated their chance of of fending off the
33:57
Yankees for delaying the inevitable.
34:00
I should say for for another day.
34:02
It, it was just a very, I don't know, not a very respectable way
34:08
to hand the Yankees their their clinch.
34:10
I'll just say that, but less about the Mariners, more about
34:13
the Yankees here. What do you think right off the
34:19
top here for the Yankees? What do you think about Jazz's
34:21
comments saying that we're going to go win a World World Series?
34:27
Who's this guy? I think he is Joe Namath.
34:28
They're. Giving me help, man, I hate to
34:30
say it. They're giving me hope.
34:32
They're giving me hope. Look, I'm not, I'm not an idiot.
34:35
I'm not sit here. I'm not going to sit here and
34:38
say this team doesn't have problems.
34:40
They have problems. They have a lot of they have a
34:43
lot of fundamental problems, lot of base running problems, some
34:49
questionable defense at times. The offense can get anemic at
34:54
times, but in a year where we're not seeing anyone specific team
35:01
get dominant, it is a lot of who can get hot, I think.
35:07
And that's always kind of the cliche story about the
35:09
postseason, right? Who's hot, who's healthy?
35:12
Let's ride, right? But this is a team that like
35:17
when when they are clicking, there's a reason why they're
35:22
going to be around that 9495 wins when it's all said and
35:27
done. Like this is a pretty good ball
35:29
club and this is a good roster. And you're talking about an
35:33
historic offense between Soto and Judge, numbers that we
35:38
haven't seen since, you know, Mickey and Maris.
35:40
I mean statistically one of the best duos.
35:43
Right. Any of us have ever seen.
35:45
So, you know, don't get me. Don't get me wrong, I have
35:48
concerns. I have question marks, but I I
35:53
have hope. I'm I'm feeling it.
35:56
I'm getting a little excited. Hey, Speaking of being excited,
36:01
I love the fact that all y'all are hanging out in the chat with
36:04
us. Drop quick, quick little
36:08
homework or something for you. Drop in in or out in the chat.
36:12
If you're watching on on live stream, if your team is still in
36:17
the hunt or if you're already looking ahead to 2025, want to
36:20
get a a pulse of of what we're dealing with there.
36:24
But anyway, the Yankees are to your to what you were saying
36:30
they they do have problems. The the reality is though, is a
36:35
lot of the teams that are either currently in or fighting to get
36:40
in, they all have problems and a team that we're going to touch
36:42
on here in just a moment. The the Orioles, I mean, they
36:44
got a whole lot of problems, but what is it?
36:51
What element like if you had to pin it to 11 specific thing for
36:56
the Yankees, it's giving you hope.
36:58
I'm going to I'm going to eliminate the cop out answer of
37:00
like Judge and Soto, because as great as they've been, they're
37:03
not going to they're not going to take you to where you would
37:06
like to see this team go single handedly.
37:10
But if there was 11 facet of what the Yankees are doing right
37:12
now, for those of us who aren't Yankees fans, who who aren't
37:17
locked into the games every night, what what is one reason
37:23
if you had to give that would have you putting them in the
37:26
World Series or even winning it? Like what is it that they're
37:28
doing? It sounds kind of cliche, but I
37:36
feel like they're in every game. For the most part, they're in
37:40
every game. They have a chance in pretty
37:44
much every game. You're watching an Aaron Boone
37:47
who is welcoming some some change.
37:53
I think he's OK with making adjustments.
37:57
I think we're seeing his hand almost be forced in certain
38:03
ways. Like Austin Wells.
38:06
I'm I'm just going to sit here and say I think deserves to be
38:10
in the conversation as a top five catcher in baseball with
38:13
what he's doing framing wise. If you look at framing
38:16
statistics, if you look, if you look at throw downs and what
38:21
he's been able to bring offensively moving in as a lefty
38:25
in the four hole behind Judge, it's it's opened up a lot.
38:30
It's really lengthen that line up out.
38:33
It allows guys like Jazz and and Rizzo to be in that like bottom
38:38
third area and just kind of hang out and be forgotten about.
38:43
Like the lineup has gotten long and Jazz and you know, honestly,
38:51
I think Jason Dominguez and like there's just there's
38:54
athleticism. There's a little bit more speed.
38:58
Nestor Cortez has actually been really good for like the last
39:01
five, six starts. Luis Heel really promising
39:06
watching Luke Weaver move into the the back end into the closer
39:10
role for now, since Clay Holmes is kind of scuffled.
39:13
Like there's been adjustments that have been made that I think
39:17
it's cool to see instead of just let's just roll out the same
39:21
thing and have the same comment every time.
39:25
That that Clay Holmes nuke that he gave up in Seattle to tie the
39:30
game, that was the most predictable situation ever.
39:33
Yeah, man, yeah. No, but you bring up a good
39:36
point. But yeah, all all very valid.
39:39
And that would I could understand if you're a Yankees
39:42
fan, why that would give you hope, especially at a stretch of
39:46
the year, meaning the postseason, where that is a very
39:51
important factor. That's a very important element
39:53
that if you, if you're unable to bring to the table, you're not
39:56
going to stand a very good chance because those games, if
39:58
you've watched playoff baseball for any stretch of time, you
40:01
know that those games, I feel it's probably not accurate, but
40:05
I feel like more often than not or like neck and neck for the
40:10
most part because every at bat, every half inning, every inning.
40:15
Is is like a a chess game within a chess game to where you can't
40:20
let the opposition get too far out in front, you can't let
40:23
yourself get too far behind. So if you're a team such as the
40:26
Yankees, as you're saying, that's able to find a way to
40:29
stay in it for 7-8, even 9 innings, chances of you finding
40:37
success are are much greater at that point.
40:40
And they're at a spot where I genuinely think I can look
40:43
around the starting lineup and say you're going to give us
40:45
something positive today. You may you may be struggling in
40:49
certain areas. Volpe has been really tough at
40:53
the plate, but he's excellent defensively.
40:56
Rizzo, same story. Glaber opposite, struggling
41:00
defensively, but has been great in the leadoff spot in front of
41:04
Soto. Like you have excellent defense
41:07
out of Verdugo and left, even though it's been terrible to
41:10
plate. Like there's just there's
41:13
aspects of really good something being brought to the table by
41:17
each guy. Each guy is being productive.
41:19
So yeah. You mentioned Soto, just a quick
41:21
note here. Very.
41:26
Can I just be honest? I've, I've really tried hard to
41:30
fight the whole like I still love Juan Soto because he's he's
41:35
a Yankee now and it's just really hard for me to accept
41:37
that. But I'm at a point now where I
41:40
admittedly, I just don't care. Like I, I love watching this guy
41:43
play and I the fact that he did what he did, it's similar in to,
41:49
to show what we're talking about with Shohei earlier in terms of
41:52
doing what he does in the way that he does it.
41:56
His 40th home run, which I'm sure you you now know at this
41:59
point was also the 200th of his career and oh, by the way,
42:06
officially gave him a home run in 30 out of 30 ballparks.
42:14
I mean, that's say what you will about Soto, say what you will
42:18
about the Yankees, that is insane like that for.
42:23
He's 25. He's. 25 years old and for
42:26
somebody like me who loves like round clean numbers and and
42:30
simplicity, the fact that he did the fact that he did 42130 out
42:38
of 30 on the same swing, that's nice.
42:44
That's a thing of beauty. That is the thing of beauty.
42:47
But yeah, you you brought up the more important point and it's
42:49
the fact that he's 25 years old and he has 200 career home runs.
42:54
So just just trying to read the room here.
42:58
Safe to say we can put to bed the whole walk merchant
43:01
narrative. Yeah, he's 25.
43:05
Yeah. 25 and has 200 career home runs, right.
43:12
And what cracks me up about people is I, I, I put out the
43:18
post about that feat or, or that home run and, and what that,
43:22
what that did for him. And my caption, it was a tweet
43:26
that I put out, took a screenshot of it and then posted
43:29
it to our, our podcast page. And my, the caption I put for
43:33
the podcast pages, people still call them overrated.
43:36
And then not even to my surprise, I knew I, I kind of
43:41
figured this was coming. You have people rewriting
43:44
history who, who on earth is calling him overrated?
43:47
Like that's a, why are we making this narrative up?
43:50
And I go have do people even pay attention anymore or is is
43:57
everyday people just wake up and it's like the men in black,
43:59
everything just gets wiped away and then they're going, OK,
44:02
well, what do we what, what, what narrative are we going to
44:04
push today because. Men in Black for Halloween one
44:06
year. Five year.
44:08
Excellent. I I know for a fact, and if
44:11
you've been paying attention at all to Juan Soda's career and,
44:14
and the path that he's on, he is just been followed by this
44:20
insane narrative that he's overrated.
44:22
And then all he does is collect walks and all he does is is.
44:25
I read those comments. I don't know why people are
44:28
acting like they're not out there.
44:29
There's those comments are out there for sure.
44:32
Just insane. Yeah, incredible player.
44:35
I it's so cool to be able to watch him all the time.
44:41
It's so cool. We have so much talent in the
44:43
game right now. Speaking of which, Cleveland
44:47
Guardians, a team that started off with a great deal of promise
44:55
and hit a little bit of a slide but has since returned to the
44:59
conversation, the national storyline.
45:02
They were the second American League team qualifier for the
45:06
postseason, following suit of the Yankees.
45:09
They clinched their spot Wednesday.
45:15
And I'll tell you what I know, I know we're talking a lot.
45:18
We got a lot of manager talk going on tonight, but Steven
45:21
vote, I don't know if you saw that video from the other night,
45:24
give it to him you. I talk on this podcast a lot
45:31
about players, managers and the importance I personally believe
45:36
that that role has in the game. And I tell you what, Stephen
45:43
Vogt is a player's manager if I've ever seen one.
45:46
This guy loves his players. And that video I was just asking
45:49
about, he's there. I don't even remember what what
45:52
the question was in relation to, but he's getting choked up
45:55
talking about like how much how much he loves his players and
45:58
how much they love each other. And I know, I know that that's
46:02
not exactly groundbreaking. Like we've we've, we've seen
46:04
that before. We've heard that before.
46:07
But the fact that he's doing this from like from the jump, he
46:16
followed, he follows in the footsteps of Terry Francona, one
46:19
of the games best, in my opinion, one of the game's
46:22
greatest managers it's ever seen.
46:26
And he's again, to use a phrase I used early in the episode,
46:31
didn't miss a step, didn't miss a step.
46:35
The Guardians, even with their their intermittent slides that
46:40
they've gone on, I don't think there's been much of a question
46:46
as. To.
46:47
What this team is bringing to the table and I've seen I will
46:52
say I've I've I've been tracking what the guardians fans have
46:56
been saying and they're they're a little bit in the mode of just
47:02
eternal despair because that seems to be the only mode that
47:04
they can really find or the only gear that they can really find.
47:07
But I, I don't know, man, it's this could the Guardians to me
47:16
are a team that we could very easily see get bounced their
47:23
first series. But in the same way, could he I,
47:27
I feel like we could easily see them in a World Series.
47:31
And I, I shouldn't say that it's I shouldn't say I shouldn't say
47:34
that it's likely. I'll just say that I, I wouldn't
47:37
be surprised with the makeup of this team with, like I said,
47:40
with Steven, Steven Vogt at the helm, I don't think it's going
47:44
to happen necessarily, but I'll just say I at this, at this
47:47
stage of the game, I wouldn't be surprised.
47:49
Yeah, it's really, it's really strange.
47:51
Like you look at all the things they do well and you're like,
47:57
yeah, I can I can get behind this.
48:01
And for those teams that are that close and when they can
48:08
look at like a true leader, that's my guy fighting for me
48:13
type manager. It does stuff in the postseason.
48:18
Like it it gives teams like this.
48:21
We're not out of the fight underdog, whatever.
48:24
We are like, you know what I mean?
48:26
Like we're we're just we have a chance.
48:28
We always have a chance. It just it gives me that vibe.
48:34
They have an historic run happening in Class A at the back
48:41
end. Like I think he's for sure the
48:44
best closer in baseball. So if you can get to, and we
48:48
talked about this before, like you're talking about now, a
48:52
postseason game turning into 7 innings, potentially maybe 6,
48:57
when you start working backwards, it makes things
49:00
interesting. They're pesky.
49:03
They they steal bases, they hit behind runners, they do hit and
49:09
runs. They play really solid defense.
49:12
They they don't, they're a team that doesn't really beat
49:15
themselves. They're very fundamentally
49:18
sound. Are there more talented rosters?
49:21
Sure, absolutely. But you have a team that's going
49:26
to say, hey, you got to beat me, I'm not going to lose.
49:31
You got to beat me. That makes.
49:35
Things interesting they they have 42.
49:39
I had to look it up to be sure. 42 come from behind wins this
49:43
season. That's what he does, dude.
49:46
There's a comfort in that spot, right?
49:49
There's a comfort in that spot. I think it's been over a year
49:52
since they've lost a game after leading through 8.
49:56
That's what I'm talking about Class A doing.
50:00
They, they have a, when you have a team that's comfortable
50:04
managing in a way and and playing a game behind and
50:09
understanding that they're still in the hunt no matter what, like
50:12
that's a scary thing. They're dominant at home.
50:16
That's a very good team. That's what I talked about last
50:20
week with the power rankings and being nervous about a team.
50:23
I I wouldn't want to mess with the Guardians dude.
50:26
That's hey, tip of the cap to you.
50:28
That's, that's a good call. Might.
50:32
If I were to rearrange my list, I may.
50:34
I might. Sneak them in there, right?
50:36
The more we're talking about it, I'm I'm I may have to have them
50:38
on my list, but no, like you were saying about the Yankees
50:40
and and you as a fan watching them night in night out, feeling
50:44
like they're always in it it. This team truly is.
50:48
It's on paper, it, it's been proven.
50:50
The proof's in the pudding. They're they're in it, They're
50:52
going to, they're going to give, the Guardians are going to give
50:57
you a fight, win or lose. And it seems based on the amount
51:01
of come from behind wins they have that they're going to
51:03
figure out a way to win more times than not.
51:07
But it goes back to what I said about what you were saying with
51:10
the Yankees. That's it.
51:11
That's in a vital asset, a vital way of playing the game that if
51:20
you can bring that to the postseason table, that's worth
51:24
its weight. In Goldman, like you, you, you
51:26
talk about talent. We've seen we've seen talented
51:29
teams fall flat on their face. But if you've got a beyond the
51:32
talent, if you've got a makeup like a, a never say die makeup,
51:38
that's that is crucial and that it to kind of put a bow on it.
51:43
That's why I said I could easily see this team just because it's
51:46
the guardians and it's it's no knock against them.
51:50
But like the, the track record is there.
51:53
I could easily see them getting bounced their first series.
51:57
But because of what we've just talked about, I could easily see
51:59
them somehow ending up in the World Series and it it wouldn't
52:02
even surprise me at this point. So yeah, good on the guardians,
52:06
man, that that'll be a fun team to watch.
52:08
I, I, I think truly once, once the post season gets going,
52:14
A-Team, that's a. Little.
52:17
A little. Shaky, a little shaky.
52:20
Kind of on the flip side here, I'm switching scripts, the
52:24
Baltimore Orioles. And look, I know, I know they
52:28
had a big time walk off win today.
52:31
Anthony Santander with I believe a two or three run home run that
52:36
got out by mere inches, which I think just speaks to the the way
52:43
things have been going for the Orioles.
52:44
It's like not even their walk off win can be convincing.
52:48
They've been on the slide. They've been on the slide as of
52:50
late. Prior to the day, they were 4-9
52:53
in their last 13, which is just not what you want to hear this
52:58
close to the end of the regular season.
53:02
Their odds during that stretch, their odds to win the American
53:07
League East went from 48% to 5%. And their offense has been
53:13
horrendous, in fact, league worst and all of baseball during
53:18
that stretch. And their bullpen just the same.
53:24
And this is all capped with the DFA of Craig Kimbrell, which if
53:31
you ask any Orioles fans and you talk all the time about how good
53:35
friend of the show Ryan Ripkins, his his, his people, his
53:40
following majority Orioles fans have have made their way into
53:44
your feed. So you're seeing a lot of
53:45
Orioles content right now. You ask any Orioles fan, they
53:50
they were ready for this. They had been clamoring for this
53:53
for some time, and it finally happened.
53:58
Yeah, man, it's tough. I I think the timing is a little
54:01
weird for it. I get it.
54:03
I get that this was like the last straw.
54:08
It's just it's it's very I think when you're coming down the
54:13
homestretch this way and we're talking 1012 games left kind of
54:17
thing, when you're coming down the homestretch, it's almost
54:22
like a all right, boys, like let's lace him up, let's get
54:29
after it. We're tired.
54:31
This is a long season, let's go get her done right.
54:35
And for this, it's like even with how tough he's been
54:42
performance wise, like you're still losing a brother in the
54:46
clubhouse when you're in, it's almost like a a kick when you're
54:49
down kind of thing. I think if you were going to do
54:52
this, I would have liked to seen this done maybe 3-4 weeks ago
54:57
just to give the team enough time to kind of gather around
55:02
this, all right, this is who we've got.
55:03
This is what we got to do, right?
55:06
And now it's like, OK, we're, we're a week and a half out and
55:10
like, OK, like this is who we have now.
55:13
And you're kind of scuffling a little bit.
55:15
You're saying goodbye to a guy like it's, it's just a little
55:18
weird. They seem uptight to me.
55:21
When I watch them play, they seem uptight.
55:24
I think you have certain, certain guys that when you watch
55:31
them play, they're stoic. Gunner Henderson is stoic.
55:38
Adley Rushman, stoic. Jackson Holiday stoic.
55:43
Cedric Mullins stoic. I think that's good to have in a
55:49
clubhouse, obviously, and I love that you and I love that you hit
55:52
a home run, you put your bat down, you trot.
55:54
It's business as usual. There's something swaggy about
55:57
that in its own way, but there's almost like there's not a whole
56:01
lot of and I get it. Losing is not fun, but you got
56:04
to have a couple guys in the clubhouse that can like loosen
56:08
it up a little bit and relax, right?
56:10
Like the the guy that always comes to mind for me.
56:14
And again, as a Yankee fan, like, sorry to hate me if you
56:16
want, but I think of like Nick Swisher, you know what I'm
56:19
saying? Like, I get it, there's only so
56:21
many Nick Swishers in this world, but you got to have
56:23
certain guys like that or they're like, let's like loosen
56:26
up a little bit. Let's go have some fun.
56:28
Let's just remember that we're playing a game and like, let's
56:31
just go get it done and and enjoy it.
56:34
And I feel like there's not enough of that in the clubhouse
56:37
with them. I don't know why I can't explain
56:40
it. I don't watch them every day.
56:42
Some of you are probably listening saying you're an
56:43
idiot, but like that's just from an outsider perspective.
56:46
That's what I'm witnessing. No, I mean that.
56:51
I think you're right. I mean, I think you watch any,
56:53
you watch an Orioles game at any point, and you could probably
56:56
gather that same summary, if you will, of of those players and
57:03
the way they go about the game. And that certainly has its
57:06
benefit got to have. Wells like that, you got to have
57:09
some guys like that. Got to have guys like that.
57:11
But to your point, like when when the going starts getting
57:16
tough and, and you, you start pressing as an individual and
57:23
then you look around and remind and, and you're, you're reminded
57:26
of, Oh yeah, everybody else in this lineup and in this dugout
57:30
is sort of like me in this way. And they're also pressing and
57:34
you have nobody to look to to loosen things up a little bit.
57:37
And some sometimes you have the benefit of looking to your
57:41
manager. I don't know what kind of role
57:42
Brandon Hyde plays and like, I don't know what he brings to the
57:44
table and trying to loosen things up, but I feel like he's
57:47
sort of in that same. Boat, I think he's I feel like
57:50
his job's on the line a little bit this offseason and he owes
57:53
it. Yeah, yeah.
57:54
So I mean it, if they don't really have anybody to look to,
57:57
I don't, I don't know how how you loosen things up.
58:00
I think I saw that they tried changing like their walk up song
58:03
or something. And there's maybe even maybe
58:07
even saw a tweet about some little dance thing or something.
58:09
I don't know. I I don't know what which of
58:11
those things happened or didn't, but it sounds like they're
58:15
trying. But it's something honestly.
58:19
And it, this thought just came to my mind, and this is coming
58:24
from personal experience, albeit at a, a much lower level in
58:27
baseball. If you, if you look around your,
58:32
your, your clubhouse, your dugout and call it 90% of the
58:38
guys in there are pressing and they're all stoic like you were
58:41
saying. And you got nobody to turn to.
58:44
Sometimes the best antidote for that is if one of those very
58:48
guys just completely breaks character.
58:51
Yeah, true. And just cuts loose and you're
58:54
going holy cow, if we've got this guy, if we've got Cedric
58:58
Mullins of all people, who's just a pros pro going about his
59:03
business everyday, win or lose, if we've got him going, OK,
59:07
guys, we're we're showing up to the ballpark in, I don't know,
59:13
ladies underwear. Not that they would do that, but
59:15
if you, if you have him being the, the, the voice to, to put
59:21
that out there or to suggest changing things up a little bit,
59:24
you go, OK, we don't have a Nick Swisher in the clubhouse, but if
59:28
one of our own is is suggesting this, maybe we can just take a
59:31
deep breath and hit the reset button.
59:33
And, and honestly, you can see it from either either part of
59:38
the spectrum. It can either be the funny let
59:41
loose or it can be like, you know what?
59:44
Show me some freaking emotion, snap.
59:47
True. Go break a bad over your knee,
59:50
go throw a Gatorade cooler. Just like show me something like
59:55
there's some type of release, whether it's anger, whether it's
59:59
laughter and joy, like just show me something like, and I know
1:00:04
there's a lot of fans on Twitter that are saying that about
1:00:07
Brandon Hyde. Like it's been weird.
1:00:09
Like there's moments where he should be freaking out that he
1:00:11
doesn't. He doesn't do anything.
1:00:13
And like then you, if a player, if a player is starting to freak
1:00:16
out, he'll like. Pull him back and like not let
1:00:18
him do it. They hit strange.
1:00:21
They hit the walk off today the and and to use the word you use
1:00:24
release. They mentioned that very word
1:00:26
multiple times as like as the OR after the walk off happened like
1:00:31
wow, like what a release that must have been for this team,
1:00:33
that clubhouse. I'm watching Brandon Hyde in the
1:00:35
post game presser and my man's just like sitting there and I'm
1:00:38
not I'm not here slander Brandon Hyde.
1:00:40
I I'm I think I've documented on this podcast.
1:00:43
I'm I'm a supporter of his makes some questionable calls at
1:00:47
times, but who doesn't? But he's sitting there in the
1:00:49
post game presser and he's just like business as usual.
1:00:52
Like not didn't even seem to be even breaking a smile.
1:00:55
And I'm like, dude, your team needed this.
1:00:57
I mean, you're going to be in the playoffs, but like you
1:01:00
desperately needed this, this win and most we're getting out
1:01:04
of you is just like a a couple canned responses.
1:01:07
I don't know, it just seems. Weird.
1:01:09
Something different dude. Like just just mix it up a
1:01:12
little bit. Show me, show me something real,
1:01:15
show me something human. Don't be so robotic going
1:01:18
through it. Like even if it is answering
1:01:20
questions in a funky way or, you know, wearing a wig in the
1:01:24
clubhouse or you just something silly, dude.
1:01:27
Like all this team needs is like, hey, I lost a bet in
1:01:32
college football and now I have to dress up like an idiot
1:01:34
because I made a bet with so and so, right?
1:01:36
Like that's all this it's takes. It's just something little to be
1:01:40
like, let's take the story off of how much of A scuffle this
1:01:45
has been for two months. You know, they're fine.
1:01:50
This this team is fine. Like, they're good.
1:01:52
They're talented enough to succeed and do well in the
1:01:56
postseason. I think they will be OK.
1:01:59
But man, like, relax a little bit, dude.
1:02:03
This is what has me a little nervous about the number of
1:02:06
props that teams use at times. You know, there's a lot of props
1:02:11
going on. I think you can't overdo it.
1:02:15
And sometimes I feel like they've they've overdone it.
1:02:17
Just the just the hair. I don't know, that's just me.
1:02:22
That might be a little little hindsight, little revisionist,
1:02:25
because that's like we were fans of what they are doing.
1:02:28
I like some of it, but if we're doing too much of it, then it
1:02:31
just gets awkward and weird. And then these stoic guys are,
1:02:35
you know, taking shots out of the out of the Dong bong or
1:02:39
Homer hose, whatever they call it.
1:02:41
And they just, I don't know, it's it's not hitting the same.
1:02:46
And then you're, you know, you can't ditch the the because the
1:02:49
fans love it. It's just you put yourself in a
1:02:51
weird spot. Well, Speaking of all that kind
1:02:56
of along those lines, let's let's kind of wrap up here.
1:03:01
I'd put out a tweet, I want to say yesterday talking about or,
1:03:09
or posing the question rather what we think.
1:03:14
And I, I know that like year to year, it's pretty consistent.
1:03:18
Like it takes a lot for, for I think the, the quote UN quote,
1:03:21
like playoff atmosphere, power rankings, if you will, to
1:03:25
change. Like it takes something drastic
1:03:27
has to happen. I feel like for it for that to
1:03:29
get shuffled around too much, but just looking at at what
1:03:33
we're dealing with at this point in time in terms of who's in the
1:03:37
postseason, who's again in the hunt, in the mix, could possibly
1:03:41
end up in the postseason. What atmospheres are we thinking
1:03:46
based on the way this year has gone?
1:03:48
Again, sometimes it takes something changing for for these
1:03:53
rankings to shift. I'm not sure if maybe you feel
1:03:58
like something has happened to where you feel like a team is,
1:04:01
is bringing a new energy to the postseason this year or could
1:04:04
bring a new energy to the postseason this year.
1:04:07
Because I think you're going to have your you're going to have
1:04:09
your staples, you're going to have your Philly.
1:04:11
They're going to be just insane. I've I've been getting a lot of
1:04:16
feedback and I've I've seen it on, you know, like on TVI
1:04:19
haven't seen a person, but like San Diego is going to they're
1:04:24
going to bring some juice. What do, what do we think are,
1:04:29
do you think there's any surprises that we're going to
1:04:32
stumble upon this offsea or this post season in terms of maybe
1:04:37
some electric atmospheres? I think, I think Milwaukee, I
1:04:42
said it earlier, I think that's a that's a fan base that like
1:04:45
it's, it's indoors, it's it's somewhat of a smaller stadium,
1:04:49
it's a smaller park. I think it I think it'll get
1:04:53
pretty rowdy. The tough thing is that like
1:04:56
it's hard to measure this right. Like some people measure
1:05:00
rowdiness with like hostility, right?
1:05:04
And you know, you're going to have your hostile environments
1:05:06
in Philly and New York and then you're going to just going to
1:05:09
have like Milwaukee. I don't, I don't think they're
1:05:12
going to be like necessarily angry or yelling at other fans
1:05:17
or throwing beers at other fans the way we've seen before.
1:05:20
Hey, Corbin Carroll, you got a nice swing there, eh?
1:05:23
Yeah. No.
1:05:24
Why they Canadian? Why?
1:05:25
That's like Canadian, I don't know.
1:05:29
I don't know why I made those poor Midwesterners Canadian.
1:05:32
Yeah, but that, you know, they, they're out there with their
1:05:35
tapioca pudding. Yeah, yeah, they're I just, I
1:05:39
think it's it's a hungry fan base and and they're and they're
1:05:44
good sports fans. These are good sports fans in
1:05:48
the Midwest, man. So I I think it's a little bit
1:05:51
different when you're talking hostility.
1:05:53
Yeah, I mean, I think Philly New Yorker like to that just other
1:05:57
players are hearing things that they normally never hear.
1:06:01
You know, opposing teams are dealing with stuff that they
1:06:03
normally don't need to deal with.
1:06:07
But I'm Milwaukee just gets me. It's me going a little bit.
1:06:12
Same thing with Cleveland a little.
1:06:13
Bit, yeah, yeah. I could see that a little bit.
1:06:20
Check out the the the centrals. You know the centrals are.
1:06:24
I'm going to need, I'm going to need Baltimore, the team we just
1:06:29
talked about. I'm going to need them to figure
1:06:31
it out over this, this final remaining stretch and then I'm
1:06:37
going to need them. I'm sorry, but I'm going to need
1:06:40
them to be handed a couple night games because speaking, speaking
1:06:46
from personal experience, you and I were at that ALDS and
1:06:50
granted the the Rangers just handed it to them, but like it
1:06:53
just I mean, you and I talked about it on the drive home after
1:06:58
both games. We're like, there's just
1:06:59
something about this, these couple visits, these post season
1:07:04
games that we were at that just didn't really hit.
1:07:06
And I, and certainly part of that is the fact that the home
1:07:09
team Orioles didn't didn't have much luck, but there was just
1:07:18
not even just Camden. I think across the board, day,
1:07:20
day, postseason baseball is just tough.
1:07:23
And I think Philly really benefits from that.
1:07:25
Because I feel like, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, if, if
1:07:28
somebody's watching or listening, like 90% sure that
1:07:34
majority of Philly's games were, were at night.
1:07:38
And I just feel like that's, that's, that's something that
1:07:40
really I'm not, I'm not saying if Philly played during the day
1:07:44
and I know they have had day playoff games recently, but I'm
1:07:47
not saying if they played in the day that that just completely
1:07:49
revokes their like what I would dub them as like top playoff
1:07:54
atmosphere. I'm not saying that I would do
1:07:55
that. But like, it's, it's certainly
1:07:58
an advantage when you're just constantly in in prime time and,
1:08:02
and your fans can just let it eat as as the clock ticks closer
1:08:08
to midnight. Like there's, there's something
1:08:10
about that. I don't feel like the Orioles
1:08:11
really got that benefit. Yeah, that's fair.
1:08:14
But I feel like going back to the original point I was making,
1:08:17
I feel like Camden, should they figure things out and and the
1:08:22
they can get those vibes back. I feel like that might be a that
1:08:27
might be a a spot to keep an eye on.
1:08:32
Yeah, yeah, I, I'm just, I'm just worried about how they feel
1:08:36
about their team at the moment that is like this.
1:08:40
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I just don't know how much
1:08:42
there's a combination of like there's this perfect cocktail of
1:08:45
like hostility, the ballpark, the fan base and like the hope
1:08:53
of it is this our year all kind of mixed in together and there's
1:09:00
only a couple teams that check those boxes.
1:09:04
It's fair. I don't know what the Orioles
1:09:05
do. This year at least, yeah, I
1:09:08
mean, it's it's fair. This, this last month for them,
1:09:11
has really done a number. Yeah, and, and there's also
1:09:14
like, I think there is a correlation with football, oddly
1:09:17
enough. I really do.
1:09:19
I think there's a correlation with like, you know, like you
1:09:21
look at the Tigers, like the Lions run that city, the Lions
1:09:27
run Detroit, and Lions fans are like, all in, like they were all
1:09:35
in last year. This team is finally getting
1:09:38
over the hump. They're good.
1:09:39
And then it's like, I don't know, the Tigers are still
1:09:42
young. They're just sneaking into the
1:09:44
wild card. Yeah.
1:09:46
I mean, I don't know. I think I'm going to go to the
1:09:48
Lions game instead or I'm going to stay home for that, you know
1:09:50
what I mean? It's just like, it depends.
1:09:54
It depends How hungry is that fan base?
1:09:57
What else is going on in that city?
1:09:59
What do you got going on in Milwaukee?
1:10:01
What what happens out there? Brewers.
1:10:04
Postseason baseball Brewers. Postseason baseball.
1:10:06
You know what I'm saying? That's what you got.
1:10:07
I'm cooking this up, honestly. I'm manufacturing.
1:10:10
I tell you what, I I did not have Nate becoming just the the
1:10:15
biggest hard O Brewers fan. Yeah, you're welcome.
1:10:17
Seemingly overnight. I did not have that on my bingo
1:10:21
card, not going to lie. Yeah.
1:10:24
But I love it. I'm I'm liking it.
1:10:25
Hey, you know, you're you're practicing what we were what
1:10:28
we've been preaching or what I've been preaching is, is
1:10:31
turning the page. You know, let's let's refresh
1:10:34
some of our narratives and talking points around some of
1:10:37
these teams. And you've literally done that.
1:10:39
You've literally done that with the Brewers.
1:10:41
It's very true. We kind of did the same thing
1:10:42
with the Orioles, but in the negative sense.
1:10:44
Yeah, kind of raising some, some questions there, but yeah.
1:10:50
I've also been up since 4:30 so I don't know what I'm saying.
1:10:52
I couldn't forget it all by tomorrow morning.
1:10:55
Who knows? It's been mostly coherent, OK,
1:10:59
to your credit, to your credit, you didn't turn Wisconsin people
1:11:05
into Canadians on this. That's.
1:11:07
True. That's true.
1:11:08
That's tough look. I've got that.
1:11:10
It's a tough look, Yeah. I don't think they probably
1:11:13
aren't thrilled with that. They're so close, you know,
1:11:17
like, come on. Yeah.
1:11:19
I mean the dialect is like the accents by the way, right there.
1:11:23
Same thing with the Chiefs. I feel like the Chiefs are kind.
1:11:26
Of no, let's not. We're not.
1:11:28
We're not the Royals a little bit.
1:11:30
We're not going to go. We're not going to start
1:11:31
slandering the Royals and saying.
1:11:33
That. No, no, no, no, no.
1:11:35
Something about the ballpark, like Kaufman, doesn't get me
1:11:38
fired. Up.
1:11:39
No, stop. You know, stop.
1:11:41
We're not going to slander the Royals the same way we just did
1:11:44
with the with the the Orioles, all right?
1:11:47
Not going to do it. We're going to get out of here
1:11:49
on a positive note. What's a royal anyway?
1:11:55
Like the title? Last thing I got before we get
1:11:58
out of here. Royalty.
1:12:01
I made such an effort last episode to avoid it that we
1:12:05
actually just forgot it all together.
1:12:09
I my heart kind of sank when I was editing the episode last on
1:12:14
Monday. I was like, Oh my gosh, I I kind
1:12:17
of ran with that bit a little too strong and we just didn't
1:12:20
even talk about it. But for those wondering about
1:12:22
our bet from this past weekend or it was an ongoing bet from
1:12:28
the previous series, but the Yankees Red Sox matched up in a
1:12:31
four-game series two weekends ago.
1:12:36
I don't know what day it is. Sure, I.
1:12:38
Don't even know what month it is.
1:12:41
Who are you? No, the what are we?
1:12:45
Doing. Why am I sitting here talking to
1:12:49
the microphone? No, the Yankees took three out
1:12:52
of four and I think the bet was who was going to have the better
1:13:00
record between the two remaining regular season series.
1:13:05
Yeah, as best as 7. Yeah.
1:13:07
So it was a little bit of an ongoing bet there.
1:13:10
And counting, the Yankees won five of those.
1:13:13
Yeah, Yankees cleaned up and saw the losy the the loser of the
1:13:17
bet. How much do we want to reveal
1:13:19
here? Like I don't want to.
1:13:21
I, I wish I kind of put this in like the stipulation of the bet,
1:13:26
but I'd like, I'd like a tweet. I'd like a tweet about it I
1:13:30
think just to get like a clear. Just in you mean in the in the?
1:13:34
Well, look, I mean, when you're, when we're looking at the
1:13:37
cropping of our video here, we're not going to get, you
1:13:41
know. I'm going to have to like stand
1:13:43
up for that episode or something, or however many
1:13:46
episodes. I think we got to make some
1:13:47
adjustments just to make sure it's it's visible.
1:13:50
So I, I think I would like a tweet.
1:13:53
I think I would appreciate a tweet.
1:13:55
I would love for you to wear it to the office one day.
1:13:57
Well, I'm not doing that. So basically, if you have no
1:14:00
idea what I'm talking about, the loser the bet has to wear a
1:14:04
rather embarrassing shirt. There would there would have,
1:14:06
there was an option for me and an option for you.
1:14:09
Your options not going to see the light of day given that you
1:14:12
won the bet. Mine's going to be the one.
1:14:14
I crafted it myself and you got to admit like it.
1:14:17
It is very, very well put together shirt and it's one that
1:14:22
I'm not going to be proud to wear, but I'm going to have to
1:14:25
wear that for a number of episodes.
1:14:27
I don't remember what we decided, I think it was like.
1:14:29
I thought it was 10. I thought we said ten.
1:14:31
Yeah, yeah. 10 between the end of the season and opening day.
1:14:37
So yeah, that shirt will make its debut.
1:14:41
I we save that for the offseason.
1:14:43
Soon, I hope. I don't know, That's up to you.
1:14:45
Whatever 10 episodes you want to get in, my friend.
1:14:47
I'll save it for the offseason. We'll see, yeah.
1:14:52
Man, I want you to throw that thing on just for one second.
1:14:56
The first day you get it. Just give me one in the regular
1:14:59
season I got to. I'll get, yeah, I'll get you
1:15:01
some, I'll get you some. And then I also have to make a
1:15:03
donation in my name. That's right, I forgot about
1:15:07
the. Yankee, the Yankees Foundation,
1:15:09
which I'm, whatever I'm, I'm more than happy to do that.
1:15:12
Was I would I would love a tweet about that as well, but.
1:15:14
That was that was a positive twist.
1:15:16
I don't really care that that's that's for a good cause, but the
1:15:19
shirt is going to be what what what gets me in trouble.
1:15:23
But. Sure, it's awesome.
1:15:25
I can't wait for you guys to see it.
1:15:27
It's so good. I hope they print it.
1:15:29
I like legitimately, I hope they didn't look at that and go like.
1:15:33
This is the creepiest thing ever.
1:15:34
We can't do this for a variety of reasons, but anyway, that'll
1:15:38
be that's on its way hopefully soon and we'll make its debut
1:15:42
soon. But other than that, I think
1:15:44
that's all we got. Good stuff, everybody.
1:15:46
Let's have a good weekend. Let's get out there.
1:15:49
Look, it's Friday. Soak this in.
1:15:53
That's huge. That's.
1:15:55
Huge sorry to those of you who are like watching and it's like
1:16:06
midnight basically and you just put your kid down to bed and
1:16:11
just woke him up. Sorry about that.
1:16:13
I'm not. But it's Thursday, which
1:16:16
basically means it's Friday, and which, as you know, means it's
1:16:20
the weekend, so. That's right.
1:16:23
Good stuff everybody. Excellent job today.
1:16:26
We'll see you guys Sunday. What was the real quick did did
1:16:29
we get, did we get any the comments about like being in or
1:16:33
out or their teams in or out? Some Yankees, some Dodgers fans.
1:16:36
That's. Good, that's good.
1:16:38
We got people that still have a positive outlook on life as of
1:16:42
right now. That's true that that number is
1:16:43
going to dwindle as as each day passes.
1:16:46
But shout out to those of you who still have a reason to to
1:16:52
get up in the morning for your baseball team.
1:16:54
It must be nice because I don't know what that's like right now.
1:16:56
So. Tough whether your team is in,
1:16:59
whether they are out, whether you don't know or not.
1:17:02
Don't go chasing curveballs. We love you all as always.
1:17:05
Looking forward to talking more baseball with you guys soon.
1:17:07
Until next time, stay filthy.