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Patriots Unfiltered 11/16: Midseason Awards, NFL Week 11 Picks, Bye Week Ponderings · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: That was definitely the meanest that you've ever been.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, sorry, sharp tongue.
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  Speaker 1: I apologize. So we used to say, you know, Belichick
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  Speaker 1: and Brady each made the other Greaterick and mac each
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  Speaker 1: made the other. Do you continue to be mean?
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  Speaker 4: You could drop?
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  Speaker 1: Would you say the players had bounced in their step?
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, No, talk about a game where you're gonna
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  Speaker 6: look and be looking at silver lining, like like, do
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  Speaker 6: we want to lose?
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  Speaker 5: What team wants to lose?
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  Speaker 6: More?
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  Speaker 1: First, overall, First.
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  Speaker 4: Make Jack Jones has just recently started acting.
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  Speaker 1: The intimation there that he's trying to shoot his way
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  Speaker 1: out of town.
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  Speaker 7: I'm not sure if he knew what he was doing
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  Speaker 7: there or not, but Fred always knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 4: Wrote something onlines. Are we being a little bit too
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  Speaker 4: tough on macs?
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  Speaker 3: A little tougher?
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 1: at Jillette Stadium, and we're following up on a very
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  Speaker 1: lively Catch twenty two. Yes, yeah, you guys bicker like
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  Speaker 1: you're married. Well, that's the that's the allure of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's the show.
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  Speaker 4: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: That's the show.
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  Speaker 6: No, it's good, good stuff, but only about running backs.
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  Speaker 6: I was captivated while you were sitting in the dark.
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  Speaker 1: I felt more like a captain. But no good stuff
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  Speaker 1: Catch twenty two. If you didn't catch it live, you
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  Speaker 1: We'll be here for the next couple of hours. It's Duce,
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  Speaker 1: it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, Matt and Nabooth and
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  Speaker 1: it's Thursday. It's a big show, Pitt's Day.
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  Speaker 5: The Queen will be down for the last hour to
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  Speaker 5: make her picks known to her to her subjects.
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  Speaker 4: Lash not quite as good this week, queen, So I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if she'll be around.
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  Speaker 5: We'll have to see a little bit of I think
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  Speaker 5: she's aware I asked her to you I wouldn't laugh
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  Speaker 5: too loud. Well, hey, I was under durest during the
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  Speaker 5: club show.
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  Speaker 4: You were fine and.
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  Speaker 1: The club show, the club.
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  Speaker 5: Club, the club Show. I watched a little of the
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  Speaker 5: the video that we got. So there is some secret
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  Speaker 5: video out there for all the people.
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  Speaker 7: I keep on we'll get it pictures and videos of
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  Speaker 7: our time in Germany.
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  Speaker 1: Release it as one off, so if we can do it, can.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe clip some out of it. I mean, Paul dancing
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  Speaker 5: on the table was crazy. He just got up and
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  Speaker 5: started working it and we were all like and he
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  Speaker 5: just had to move.
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  Speaker 1: So the shirt off, the nipple clamps, it was great.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, and we tried to see what we could do
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  Speaker 6: with that because we're all putting together a sort of
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  Speaker 6: a Germany trip wrap up. Yeah, and there's clips that
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  Speaker 6: we put in from Patriots House. How but it's hard
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  Speaker 6: to get anything without music.
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  Speaker 5: Well, let's tease it Friday seventh. I was just gonna say, yeah, YouTube, Facebook,
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  Speaker 5: and then it'll be on Patriots dot Com. But the
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  Speaker 5: full wrap up video behind the scenes of yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe just a little glimpse with some of our content
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  Speaker 5: team got to see some football things that they haven't
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  Speaker 5: really ever gotten a see before.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, so if you're wondering what it was like
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  Speaker 1: in Frankfurt, tomorrow, seven o'clock Eastern is the worldwide pressure
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  Speaker 1: the worldwide premiere of our trip to Germany and like
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  Speaker 1: du said, behind the scenes stuff, So that'll be seven
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  Speaker 1: o'clock tomorrow on all Patriots channels.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just say to like, you know, everybody
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  Speaker 5: knows what the game was, but it didn't do justice
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  Speaker 5: to what an awesome time it was there and just
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  Speaker 5: for Patriot fans to gather in the middle of Germany
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  Speaker 5: from all over Europe and and you know, just that
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  Speaker 5: was that was the best part. And that's the stuff
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  Speaker 5: that will show. And you know, we know what happened
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  Speaker 5: in the game and all that. We don't need to
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  Speaker 5: go into that, but but it was it was a
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  Speaker 5: great time.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. All right, So what are we doing here? What
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  Speaker 1: are we talking about? I thought we're doing radio show,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, no, I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean it seemed like there was anything, uh newsworthy now
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  Speaker 6: from the time that we signed off yesterday, quieting down.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the players are off today tomorrow through
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  Speaker 1: the weekends. It'll be a bad thing. It'll be back
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  Speaker 1: on Monday. Like, yeah, I agree, Paul, it's probably a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We had locker room yesterday and you know you heard
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  Speaker 5: it was an interesting few of those guys. Yeah, go ahead,
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  Speaker 5: you can jump in on some of those guys.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I felt like the bye week. I mean that's
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  Speaker 7: for sure, Like just there was card games going on.
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  Speaker 7: There was like one of the tables in there was
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  Speaker 7: I turned a different.
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  Speaker 1: Way and I was like, guy in the corner playing
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  Speaker 1: a piano.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, And I was like, what's going on here? Like
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  Speaker 7: you walked in, it looked like a cyclone had just
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  Speaker 7: been through the locker room. Like everything was all out
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  Speaker 7: of place and in different spots. And it definitely had
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  Speaker 7: that that bye week vibe. And I was I was
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  Speaker 7: cautious about saying that because at two and eight, you know,
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  Speaker 7: you know, want to like highlight that they are kind
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  Speaker 7: of loose, But at the same time, that was that's
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  Speaker 7: the vibe.
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  Speaker 4: That was what it was, like, what are you going
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  Speaker 4: to do?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Whatever? Did any of the players share their plans
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  Speaker 1: for the.
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  Speaker 7: Bye We Yeah, a lot of a lot of guys
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  Speaker 7: going home, you know, wherever they call home, you know,
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  Speaker 7: for for the weekend, spend time with family.
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  Speaker 1: I heard this morning on the Rich Hill Show and
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  Speaker 1: uh Greg Greg Hill. Oh, he was talking about going
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  Speaker 1: to Disney World with his kids, know, his significant other.
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  Speaker 4: Oh right, I don't think it has kids, right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been excited himself. I get a Mickey Mouse hears.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: We actually saw them walking around Germany on Saturday after
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  Speaker 7: the players were off, you know, from meetings and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So yeahs a good guy. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 1: players like try to go back to the alma mater
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  Speaker 1: sometime and show up on the sideline a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of a lot of college football games.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know it must be a big thing that
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  Speaker 1: it's like coming, you know, thanks, going back to your
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  Speaker 1: high school game after you When Paul goes back to
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  Speaker 1: his high school in high school, the statue, it's like
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  Speaker 1: they carry him in like Cleopatrick.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he's back.
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  Speaker 5: Who left Gorilla left. No, he's in the b U
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  Speaker 5: Baseball Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: It is, he really is.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know why you guys have to make fun
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  Speaker 6: of it. The fact is that actually a fact want
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  Speaker 6: of Famer sitting there.
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  Speaker 4: That's me.
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  Speaker 5: Now for now, Baseball.
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  Speaker 7: I'll be in the you know, Writers Hall of Famer someday.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of those clinic.
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  Speaker 4: That that's a good question for d and the answer
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  Speaker 4: is now.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Eight five five Pats five hundred is the
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  Speaker 1: the email address.
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  Speaker 5: I'm hearing a little from Jack Jones out and the Raiders.
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  Speaker 5: He said, you know, kind of played it close to
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  Speaker 5: the vest as I'm I'm not I'm not gonna say.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure he would.
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  Speaker 5: You don't know what he's gonna say. But curious how
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  Speaker 5: that's all gonna work out and what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 5: And is he now suddenly going to stay on the
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  Speaker 5: straight and arrow with the Raiders in Vegas or is
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  Speaker 5: this gonna be kind of a tryout and maybe fade.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I'm still trying to wrap my head around
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  Speaker 6: the fact that he brought guns to the airport in June,
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  Speaker 6: and somebody locally is insinuating that he started to act
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  Speaker 6: out when it when Josh McDaniels got fired and Antonio
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  Speaker 6: Pierce took over. Yeah, like that, I like someone's really
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  Speaker 6: and they were doubling down on it yesterday like.
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  Speaker 4: Andy gresh No, he was talks, he talks. I mean
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  Speaker 4: he's talking about it on the air.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, people know who I'm I'm referring to, and listen,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not here to tell anybody, you know, keep your
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  Speaker 6: takes to yourself.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's the business.
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  Speaker 6: That's But I just don't know how you can make
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  Speaker 6: the argument he started to act out when Josh McDaniels
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  Speaker 6: got fired.
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  Speaker 4: Now did he know that?
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  Speaker 6: Did he know that that Peters was was going to
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  Speaker 6: take over and probably would claim him? Maybe maybe he
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  Speaker 6: figured his old coach would claim him if he was available.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think just took the pouting to a new
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  Speaker 5: level and really disengaged.
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  Speaker 6: It's just it amazes me that you could make the
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  Speaker 6: argument that he started to act up at that point.
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  Speaker 6: This is just if we were talking about this and
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  Speaker 6: Catch twenty two at the end. Just I think a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people make the bill, should we should the
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  Speaker 6: Patriots keep bill?
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  Speaker 9: Or not?
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  Speaker 7: About just about Mac Jones? Like this stuff with Jack
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  Speaker 7: Jones and J C. Jackson and Trent Brown like it's
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  Speaker 7: all of it, like it's the whole thing has fallen apart,
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  Speaker 7: like they have that's just the stuff we know, right,
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  Speaker 7: And they have no there's no moral compass on this
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  Speaker 7: team anymore, Like there's no there's no rules like what
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  Speaker 7: this ten years ago? Never it's never would have flown,
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  Speaker 7: you know, I think about it.
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  Speaker 6: It's like we go back to those guys that they
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  Speaker 6: used to sign that were troubled, and they would give
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  Speaker 6: a second chance to Corey Dillon.
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  Speaker 4: Good example, right.
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  Speaker 6: Comes in, they trade for him, has a huge year,
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  Speaker 6: they re up, he starts doing what he did in Cincinnati,
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  Speaker 6: and it wasn't long he was gone. Now, this is
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  Speaker 6: a guy who ran for over sixteen hundred yards and
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  Speaker 6: nine thousand touchdowns and was a huge part of the
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  Speaker 6: offense for a team that was absolutely dominant to win
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  Speaker 6: the Super Bowl, and they didn't let him like spoil
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  Speaker 6: the rest of the batch. Well, he wasn't around that
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  Speaker 6: much longer. It was like a year and a half
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  Speaker 6: or something like that.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: And again, you know, they got Maroney in the first
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  Speaker 6: round shortly thereafter and said we got to get rid
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  Speaker 6: of this.
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  Speaker 1: We've had the conversation a few times now the locker
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  Speaker 1: room culture, you know, Corey Dllon comes into it and
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  Speaker 1: goes like, yeah, it's not going to be tolerated here,
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  Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, they've had enough of the situation.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not as strong as it's not as strong
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  Speaker 1: a locker room as it has been. And you know,
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: so if you're a guy that has screwed around the past,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: you find out pretty quickly. I can't get away with
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: that here, not not forget about my coach. My teammates
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  Speaker 1: aren't going to allow that. The best guy on this
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  Speaker 1: team isn't going to put up with it, Tom, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Tom Brady, That's not the case right now, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I think every team, good or bad, have these
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  Speaker 1: things that happen. You've got fifty three guys plus that
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  Speaker 1: circulate in and out of your locker room throughout the season.
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  Speaker 1: Things are going to happen. It's just it's just inevitable.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're a good team and you're managed well
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  Speaker 1: within the lot, some of a lot of things don't
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  Speaker 1: see the light of day, you know.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's the absence of someone like Willie mcginnison.
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to like trash Jawump Bentley, Like, I
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  Speaker 5: think that those guys are good leaders and that they,
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  Speaker 5: you know, send the right message David Andrews Tetrick wise,
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  Speaker 5: but I just wonder how much of it is the
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  Speaker 5: vacuum at the quarterback position and that you know, there
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  Speaker 5: isn't really that strong alpha quarterback that everybody kind of
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  Speaker 5: believes into kind of rally around on both sides of
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  Speaker 5: the ball to really set the tone at the top.
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  Speaker 5: But it's you're right, though, It's just you can't. They
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  Speaker 5: don't have a lot of star players who are totally
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  Speaker 5: committed and making the big plays and the ones that
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  Speaker 5: like William McGinnis would hold everyone accountable, but he'd go
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  Speaker 5: out and play hard. And you know, I mean, again,
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  Speaker 5: I don't want to get into saying I'm saying that
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  Speaker 5: Bentley doesn't, but you know what I mean that there's
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  Speaker 5: a difference.
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  Speaker 1: And even the position coaches. Adrian Clem's a young guy,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the Stephen and Brian Belichick are young. You know,
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of young position coach guys, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember when Ray Hamilton was a position coach
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  Speaker 1: and he sugar bear, Yeah, I mean he would you know,
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  Speaker 1: like if you were aligneman, like you didn't screw around
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  Speaker 1: with him.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, like Pepper Johnson.
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  Speaker 1: Pepper Johnson, you didn't screw around with these guys. Romeo Crenell.
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  Speaker 1: You wanted to do well from him for him because
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  Speaker 1: you loved him.
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  Speaker 10: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like same thing with Dante in that presence, isn't there.
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  Speaker 4: Coaching staff is a I think a big part of this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they've lost a lot of good coaches and then
• 12:10
  Speaker 6: good coaches that replace those good coaches, and even in
• 12:13
  Speaker 6: some cases other good coaches that replaced the guy that
• 12:15
  Speaker 6: replaced the guy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you're just down to a bunch of
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  Speaker 4: young in And I'm not saying they're not good coach.
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  Speaker 1: Or they don't be great coach. We don't know yet.
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  Speaker 1: But when you're a you know, a player, you see weakness,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're like, I can get away with this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I mean you think about Josh mcdaniels's last staff here.
• 12:33
  Speaker 7: It's not Josh McDaniels obviously is the big name, but
• 12:36
  Speaker 7: they had Josh McDaniels. They had Mick Lombardy coaching the receivers.
• 12:39
  Speaker 7: They had Bo hart Agree coaching the quarterbacks. Who's now
• 12:41
  Speaker 7: the OC with the Raiders. Instead of Josh McDaniels, they
• 12:45
  Speaker 7: had Carmen Brisilla coaching the line, like they had all
• 12:49
  Speaker 7: these guys, Nick Keyley coaching the tight ends that had
• 12:51
  Speaker 7: been here, that were experienced coaches that I just had
• 12:56
  Speaker 7: been there.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Nick Keyley was on like the twenty fourteen staff as
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  Speaker 7: like a low level assistant. You know, like these guys
• 13:01
  Speaker 7: went back aways with his team and we're in the pipeline,
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  Speaker 7: and now you just have all these guys that are
• 13:06
  Speaker 7: just kind of coming up and coaching, you know, Vinnie
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  Speaker 7: Sinceri or Adrian Clem, I don't know, we.
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  Speaker 4: Know Ross Douglas.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of guys that it's their first real
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  Speaker 6: experience and they're already position coaches, Whereas, to Evan's point,
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  Speaker 6: the guys that were first year position coaches had spent
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  Speaker 6: years in the system as coaching assistants before they got
• 13:29
  Speaker 6: you know, the actual job of wide.
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  Speaker 4: Receivers coach or whatever it was.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so you guys think it's you know, the locker
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  Speaker 6: room stuff, policing the locker room like Fred was talking about,
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  Speaker 6: do you think that what might make that a little
• 13:40
  Speaker 6: bit harder now was like sort of the offense defense dynamic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think just losing in general, and you
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  Speaker 5: just you know, everybody kind of feels crappy when you're
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  Speaker 5: losing and you start to just you know it's not working.
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  Speaker 5: You're not maybe not resentful, but you're looking at other
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  Speaker 5: guys being like these were not going to be together.
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  Speaker 5: You know, just there's just bad vibes. It continues to
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  Speaker 5: spiral on itself.
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  Speaker 1: The message sched the message gets lost because all right,
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  Speaker 1: you know I'm not seeing any results. You know, the
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  Speaker 1: message resonates when you know you start getting results and
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  Speaker 1: the players say, all right, I listened, I did what
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  Speaker 1: he said, and look what happened. I'm playing well or
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  Speaker 1: the team's playing well. But when you're not playing well,
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  Speaker 1: those messages, you know, sound really hollow.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I mean I played on I think
• 14:23
  Speaker 5: one one or two bad hockey teams over high school college.
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  Speaker 5: But I just remember that one in high school was
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: like where it was just couldn't wait for it to
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: be over. You know, you just you're sick of these guys.
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  Speaker 5: You're kind of like bickering a lot with each other.
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  Speaker 5: It's just bad vibes that didn't exist. Maybe necessarily at
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  Speaker 5: the beginning of the season, but as you lose more games,
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: you get more frustrated. You point fingers at oh, he's
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: not doing this, he's not doing that. You know, this
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: guy's getting favoritism. Like it's just that's what losing does.
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  Speaker 5: It just it makes everything worse.
• 14:52
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of reports last
• 14:54
  Speaker 7: couple of days that Mac has lost the locker room,
• 14:58
  Speaker 7: that people don't believe in Mac anymore in the locker room,
• 15:01
  Speaker 7: and to that point, like that twenty I think was
• 15:05
  Speaker 7: Andrew Callahan right that reported that, like which side of
• 15:08
  Speaker 7: the locker room are you pulling?
• 15:09
  Speaker 10: Right?
• 15:10
  Speaker 7: Because if you're pulling a lot of defensive players, then
• 15:12
  Speaker 7: I can understand why a lot of those guys are
• 15:14
  Speaker 7: probably looking at it, like why it brought up. We've
• 15:16
  Speaker 7: been good for two years or at least you know,
• 15:19
  Speaker 7: a team that's representative on defense for two years, and
• 15:22
  Speaker 7: we're losing games because of the other side of the ball.
• 15:24
  Speaker 7: And you have guys that are veteran players, guys that
• 15:27
  Speaker 7: are playing through injuries, you know, guys that are banged up,
• 15:30
  Speaker 7: and they're all going out there and holding the Colls
• 15:32
  Speaker 7: to ten points. And then he can't even make a
• 15:34
  Speaker 7: throw to win a game at the end of the
• 15:36
  Speaker 7: game where he's guys wide open. It's only human nature,
• 15:40
  Speaker 7: you know, we're we're I'm saying, I'm out on Mac Jones.
• 15:43
  Speaker 7: I can't even imagine what some of the guys in
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: the locker room, feeld.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about that Callahanton, because I
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: had somebody and this is kind of like, you know,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: inside journalism talk, but I think it's interesting. I hope
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: somebody came to my office today and said a person
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: should a writer should never use an unname source in
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: an opinion piece.
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: I tell Aaron to grow up.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Only in a in a reporting I said, what's the difference,
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: I said, you form your opinion based on sources. You know,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: what's the difference whether it's an opinion piece or it's
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: a beat piece.
• 16:18
  Speaker 11: You know.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: But I get frustrated with that.
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: A lot of people think like that, I'm just joking around, obviously,
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: but but no, a lot of people think that the
• 16:25
  Speaker 6: whole thing about you should never use an unnamed source.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: That's like, well, you have to absolutely, absolutely, yeah, but
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: you just have.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: To vet your sources and make sure. Now, in this case,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: if only one person is saying that Mac lost the
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: locker room. I'd like to ask a couple other people,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you know, because now I'm basing my opinion on only
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: one other opinion.
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: And that's you know, that's the whole all the presidents meant.
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: You know, Yeah, the two you know, two sources.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Sources.
• 16:51
  Speaker 5: That's what struck me though. It's just like eighty eighty percent.
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: You're putting that number on it, like, yeah, how.
• 16:55
  Speaker 6: Can I possibly that's what someone told him, right, That's
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: what I always say, like, don't put numbers on it,
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: because now it's like an exact number, and that's something
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: that people can I didn't give his story.
• 17:05
  Speaker 4: But I heard him talking about it with Fred Fred
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: on the Touch or not fredru.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: That would be about forty guys. Yeah, I don't believe
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: in Max.
• 17:12
  Speaker 6: I think he said that that's what he was told,
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: is that it's about eighty twenty right now of guys
• 17:17
  Speaker 6: that have that he's lost. It does seem like a
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: high number to me, but you know, I don't know.
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: I look at you know, Mike Giardi has sort of
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: talked about there are a lot of people that were
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: sort of out after the New Orleans game and couldn't
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: understand why he was continuing to get chances, which is
• 17:34
  Speaker 6: why I don't think there was a sort of a
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: line of thought that Bill taking him out. I think
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: Mike Reese said this on the Sports Hub on Tuesday
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: that it was an emotional decision, very unlike Bill to
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: make an emotional I don't think it was emotional at all.
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: I think he gave him chance after chance after chance,
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: and finally I was surprised it took as long as
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: it did. You know, we were sort of wondering after
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: the New Orleans game. He started getting questions after the
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: New Orleans game, is either starting quarterback moving forward? So
• 18:05
  Speaker 6: I don't think this was like a rash decision based
• 18:07
  Speaker 6: on one pick.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Well do you guys? Well no, I definitely don't think
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it was based on one pick. But in that moment,
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: you have one drive left and you're gonna pull out
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the backup. Who's cold? Been watching the game for fifty
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: you know, fifty eight minutes? Who's cold?
• 18:24
  Speaker 10: You know?
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: So I could see you you give Mack that last drive,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: he doesn't do it, and then he doesn't start the
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: next game. That would make more sense, But.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: Couldn't you make an honest argument.
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: Who do you think had a better chance of making
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: that drive, Zapi or Mac and saying Zappy, No, Well,
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: I think because I don't think I can't get any
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: chance of driving.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Actually I don't. I don't know. I think you could
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: make the argument either way.
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: The way that he came off the field, you guys
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: never would know this better than I would. The way
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: he came off the field, I would have said, there
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: is no possible way this.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: But I getn't if I'm Bill O'Brien or Bill Belichick
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: said hey, put your head up, you're gonna have one
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: more chance. Yeah, you're gonna have one more chance.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: I'll take my chances with the other.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. No. But I could make the argument either way
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: that you give him that last chance, and then if
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: you figure out for the Giants, who's your starter.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: I think it could have gone. You could look at
• 19:17
  Speaker 7: one of two ways. Either you know that way. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 7: think it is a good argument. But I also think
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: at some point you have to send a message to
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: the rest of the team like okay, like enough is enough,
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: Like we're not gonna keep on running this guy out
• 19:29
  Speaker 7: there that clearly can't get the job done, and let's
• 19:32
  Speaker 7: at least see what somebody else can do. And I've
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: been against putting Zappie in the game more than anybody probably,
• 19:37
  Speaker 7: but at that moment, well, how fair?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: How fair was it?
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: It wasn't It wasn' fair to Zappi, But I think
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: that it was more than fair to Mac. Yeah, I
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: think he had got more than more than enough chances.
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: Do you think it's significan yesterday that they had Mac
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: at the top of the reps or do you think
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: that that's just we don't want to upset the apple
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: cart before the weekend.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I think, to me, correction mode, that's saying we haven't
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: made a decision yet, so we're gonna stick with what
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we have and then we'll see next week. Yeah, get back.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that.
• 20:07
  Speaker 7: I think that it's you know, we were at semantics
• 20:10
  Speaker 7: debating this on catch twenty two. I think it's way
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: more of a story if we were out there yesterday
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: and daily Zappi was taking first.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: And now you've got a whole week of that before
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they get back here. Right, Yeah, yeah, you know so,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I think, and.
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: Then the locker room was probably only like seventy two
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: you know, don't don't ask me to math.
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: No, but I mean we got issues. We got problems.
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: You know, it's not that we can solve them. That's
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: not going to be for our tailors, you know.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And we're playing a team that is equally in trouble,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you know, a week from Sunday, and it's going to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: be a fascinating game, not from a standpoint of good football,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: but just dynamics, you know.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: Boy, But if it's like the game of the year,
• 20:52
  Speaker 7: what if it has come out of it it's like
• 20:54
  Speaker 7: a thirty eight to thirty.
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: Five, five three, five to three?
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: Can you I guess you can score five?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, can can you see any way that that
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: would be possible?
• 21:02
  Speaker 9: No?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, unless the Patriots defense just gives up, which they
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: haven't given any indication yet that they are going to.
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: But did you watch the Washington ya at all?
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, I think I think the Patriots defense.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Has held The defense has been fine, has held up.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: The defense is fine, it's fine. I just think that.
• 21:24
  Speaker 7: Just looking I get it, like we all are probably
• 21:26
  Speaker 7: looking for cracks and looking for for quit in this team.
• 21:30
  Speaker 7: They've you know, going back to the Washington game and
• 21:33
  Speaker 7: even going back to Miami game.
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: The amount of mental.
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: Errors that they've made the last like three or four
• 21:38
  Speaker 7: weeks on defense is telling like they I could have
• 21:41
  Speaker 7: used to count on like one hand over a three
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: week span, how many times they like busted a coverage?
• 21:47
  Speaker 7: Where are they just one guy was in there in
• 21:49
  Speaker 7: the wrong coverage and it was a completely wide open receiver.
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: That's now happened like a handful of times. You know
• 21:55
  Speaker 7: Jalen Waddle on the touchdown the wheel route last week,
• 21:58
  Speaker 7: where you know the guy drop the ball down the
• 22:00
  Speaker 7: sideline as another busted coverage. The Commander's game, the cross
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: body throw by Sam Hallell across the field, that was
• 22:07
  Speaker 7: another busted coverage. Like you're just talking about plays like
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: that where mentally it doesn't seem like they're as locked
• 22:14
  Speaker 7: in as they know.
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: The tackling I thought was really especially the Washington game,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: and it wasn't just guys are missing in the open field.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: It's like they have them and then they're just sort
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: of like shrugging you off, like that that quarterback.
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: That quarterback runs it's promising, promising to diving, diving for
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: his shoulders.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: But I don't but I.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: Don't believe that effort. I mean, we're taking the totality
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: of the ten games. I don't believe effort has been
• 22:39
  Speaker 6: a big problem.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: So no, you know, over the years when we had
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: the newspaper, we used to do the mid season awards,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: you know, because the buye usually happened. You know, let's
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: let's go through that exercise. And I know it's we're
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a little further than halfway, but you know, we're kind of.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I chose to do them in the notes for the league,
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: not only because.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know with two and eight, so two and
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: eight it's tough, but you know, let's go, let's go
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: down the line. So so far, Rookie of.
• 23:05
  Speaker 7: The Yearnzales, Yeah, tomorrow Douglas, I agree, I don Gonzales
• 23:11
  Speaker 7: would have been, but yeah, you get.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Hurt if you don't play it. I say, you.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Guys are probably still that's that would be my pick.
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: But I think he's like long term. I mean, I
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: love Pop Douglas and I think he's he's a piece
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: of the puzzle. But I feel like Gonzales is like,
• 23:23
  Speaker 5: that's like you have an actual protection star player.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, you do, but he didn't learn it this year. Yeah,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can't make the club from the top, right,
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So he played.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: It's one of those two three and a half. Yeah,
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: and the other guy played nine.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Defensive player of the half season Christian Barmore.
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: That's a good one. That's a good one. Yeah, really
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: coming on, I mean, I don't know. Yeah, I was
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: gonna say Peppers, I would say I would kind of
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: say bar Moore though, I mean, I think Peppers has
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: been good, but I just think.
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: Bar Moore is for the same Jabi Peppers over there.
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: But for the same reason. Though, I think this is
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: a guy you really need up front. I think he
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: can really make an impact. I mean, Bull Peppers, I
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: really like him.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Pick how much?
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: How much impact does he make per game?
• 24:04
  Speaker 12: Like?
• 24:04
  Speaker 5: I like his attitude and all that, but I feel
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: like Barmore can you know, really have a presence in
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: an area.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That he offensive Player of the half season of the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: off season geez.
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: Shot, I don't know, Henry or pop shot.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: David Andrews.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: That's a good safe pick.
• 24:19
  Speaker 7: All of the chaos, David Andrews has been steady.
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: I know he's hurt now, but I think Douglas but
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I think he played enough where I give it to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Kendrick Bourne one.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: No, Yeah, I don't Okay, I had a couple of
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: good games here or there, but I'd probably go Douglas
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: over him, just because I would Douglas.
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: He's rising. But I get why I haven't said David Andrews.
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think if they didn't have him, it
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: might it might completely be off.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: The righty and for his leadership too, you know. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, what is some of the brown category brown?
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: How about come back play? Now Paul hates that one
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: come back player to come black player of the half season.
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: Oh it's not Phil O'Brien.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's a coach, Mike right, coach right, comeback player of.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: The who's come back?
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to think.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: I mean Michael when you he wasn't really gone last year.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: He was gone one game.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe we don't have one, you know,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: so yeah, everybody's kind of back. What's the play of
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the hof season?
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: Off the field goal Miami? Yeah, it was a great player.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: I was.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: I wasn't even being ironic, Okay, all right, I.
• 25:37
  Speaker 7: Would say the play that the season was Kendrick Bourne's
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: touchdown in Week one because at that moment, the offense
• 25:45
  Speaker 7: looked like, okay, we got.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: That's the high watermark for the offense. It goes back
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: to back drives in the second.
• 25:51
  Speaker 7: Literally the most aesthetically pleasing play Dyve ran all year.
• 25:54
  Speaker 7: It happened in Week one.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: For me, you know, because of like how we felt afterwards,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: was the Kasickie catch for the touchdown.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: It's not a great play, but just a great result.
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: I get it, and it was a great result. I
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: just felt like the season was over by that point.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: I know the path was open for a lot, but
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: it wasn't for me. It was open. It was wide open.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I mean I kind of lump all that like door Field,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: want you in the face.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: The Remondre run, the Hunter Henry third down pass, and
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: then the touchdown. If you all connected those, I mean,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: that's probably the best sequence, but far and away.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, there is no second for the best sequence,
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: win whatever you want to say everything.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that fourth quarter of the Bills game.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: What about the worst play of the off season?
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: That interception last week, no question, that's the worst player
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: of the last half cent.
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh geez, yeah, I don't even know what would
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: be what would be second?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to choose from, but I'm
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: not nothing really like rises. Well maybe that Mac throwback
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: across you took the words, but the second one, which
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: against Dallas. Expand upon that thought, Michael, I'm sorry, I'm
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: going to need more information.
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh man, that throw back across his body. But
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: it's like, I mean, look at the theme of it though,
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: it's just these mistakes that like you just can't hand
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: for quarterback.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Like what's the headline of the half season the end
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of Bill Belichick and Mac? The end is Bill's future? Yeah, yeah, and.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: Now the end is near. Yeah, the end is here,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: not near.
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: Any other categories you want to do, I mean they're
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: probably negative ones.
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: I mean, there is there an m VP of this team.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: I don't know, Yeah, I don't.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: I mean that one.
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: I might say Peppers, like for the send you would
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: have Nickymore.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I might.
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: I might say Peppers. Just because he's brought you like him.
• 27:52
  Speaker 5: I love him more than I like him.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: He is a good dude.
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: He's a good guy. I mean, I want to make
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: fun of you, but he's a good I mean, I
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: I also just am speaking to the loss of Judon
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: was like monumental for off the field entertainment. And I
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: feel like Pepper's has at least given us a little
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: bit of just you know, personality and you know, some
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: fun and you know, and some hard hits and all
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: What does that mean from No Socks?
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, so he's such a jerk. So he claims
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: that you you might not remember this seven because you
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: were probably like two. There was a game that the
• 28:28
  Speaker 6: Patriots lost to Pittsburgh on a Saturday night in Foxboro,
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: the Old Stadium. They had the game at the end,
• 28:34
  Speaker 6: they were trying to get a couple of first downs.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: They threw a screen bled Soe threw out against Pittsburgh.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: Kevan Henry picked it off and they ended up winning,
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: a really bad loss for the Patriots.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: And No Socks says, that was the only throw we
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: ever saw that was worse.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And I was like.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Defensive lineman picking off a screen pass. Like screen passes,
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: you don't look at your target, you know, run the
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: play and you.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: Just throw it.
• 29:02
  Speaker 7: Not supposed to be there, it comes. Here comes the
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: Drew defense.
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: I could give you eight hundred picks by Drew. There
• 29:09
  Speaker 6: were a lot worse than that. One's Drew a lot
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: worse because he threw.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: A lot of picks for for many teams.
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: He did, You are correct, But anyway, Matt has been
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: busting my balls about that particular throw all week, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: he keeps sending me into orbit with it.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to look it up.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: What was young Ryland's best field goal of the hot season?
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I knew it. It was here.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: There was a fifty was that buffalo?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: I think it might too many? But a great kick?
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: That was?
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that one went threw the uprights, it was perfect.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Split the upright.
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: Bearinger's best punt to get.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Back, yeah, I did. It's too far.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: He doesn't now kick his coverage though.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: So if anyone wants to add to what we've said
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: or come up with their own category.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: Let's play nice, all right, don't be too mean, you can.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: How about the forty something yard play to Douglas in Dallas?
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: There was for like, there was like the best play
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: kind of thing.
• 30:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, except two guys ran into each other.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Don't with details the hair the sixty four yard run
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: for ven So that was a good.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good one. Yep.
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: You when I called him gone gone upon the handoff
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: being completed, he is gone.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: He was good run. I was like, she's gone.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: I think for a long time that I can't remember
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: a running back on this team running for that long
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and not getting caught from behind.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the like Lagair Blunt twenty fourteen, maybe against the cold.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: So the long ones, the whatever game in Buffalo, the
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: wind Oh right, har Harris had a long one, Right.
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: I have kind of one. Just who are you most
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: disappointed in?
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, let's let's start the list. This is the most
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I think, well, Max up top, most disappointed. I'm disappointed.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of cameras.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: You're not mad at them?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Juju Juju, Yeah.
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: Because I didn't think Juju was an upgrade over Myers,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: and you were still disappointed. But I didn't think you
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: thought it would be about even man, I thought it was.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: I thought it was a wash at best, and if
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: and if he didn't fit in, it could be worse.
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: I didn't think it was going.
• 31:22
  Speaker 9: To be this.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, now it's like, how do we get out of it?
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: I'm most disappointed in Bill O'Brien.
• 31:26
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was where I was, because when you start,
• 31:29
  Speaker 7: even though I knew it wouldn't be great, I thought
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: it would at least be NFL caliber, and he's got
• 31:38
  Speaker 7: to take some of the blame for Mac falling apart.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, he does.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: How about Thornton, Oh, that's another good one.
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I had any hope.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: That's why, Like you know, when you start saying some
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: of these guys, that's kind of how I like, I'm
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: not all that disappointed in Mac and and I would
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: put Thornton close to that because I wasn't really expecting
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: this huge meteoric rise.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: Okay, so, but they have been disappointing.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Here's the next category. Biggest surprise, Now Tomaria Douglas. We
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: saw he's by far, but we saw things in training
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: camp that's like, wow, they're using them a lot. Okay,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: so let's let's eliminate him because like we were seeing
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: indications that this guy might be someone that they're gonna use.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Who else, Like once the season started, who's been your
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: biggest positive surprise?
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: I Mean, this isn't a sexy one, but I'm kind
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: of surprised that guy and Godshaw have played as stout
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: as they could and they haven't really fallen off as
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: far as run defense.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: I kind of thought this year that like this could
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: be when it finally turns with them, and you know
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: it's not enough. You can't just have good run defenders.
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: But I'm they've they've played hard, they've played well. I
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: don't think they've really you know, a couple of instances
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: they've gotten run on, but but they haven't gotten run
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: over much this season, So I good for them. I mean,
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: I was looking at we got to rebuild those guys,
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: and I mean I think god shall be here a bit.
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: But but they played, they played pretty well.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Minus Pepper's again, Yeah, I think he's one, yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: The highest graded player on defense.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: The p f F. Okay, it's almost like.
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: You can watch for a while.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: For a while, Jennings was trending for me, but he's
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: kind of fallen off a little bit.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: Surprised me too, Jennings has been pretty.
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think he's just confirmed to me that he
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: could be what I thought he was, which is a
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: good strong stout And you're not going.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: To get much more on him.
• 33:26
  Speaker 5: But look, I said i'd be able to bring him
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: back as death count absolutely counts.
• 33:32
  Speaker 7: Has he done enough because I mean he qualifies, like
• 33:37
  Speaker 7: in terms of like I'm not talking about it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not talking about statistically.
• 33:40
  Speaker 5: I would say, no, Okay, I think he does.
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: I will accept the ruling. Yeah, I will not.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I think he's gotten a few teams on a few times,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: but it's not like he's a dynamic piece that every
• 33:50
  Speaker 5: week is going to be involved.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: In because they don't feed him.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: On the disappointment one. On the disappointment when we kind
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: of left out even though he was also involved in
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: the best play for me, it was Kiki, Like I
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: thought we'd see a little bit more disappointing.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, good, good one.
• 34:07
  Speaker 7: I thought about that with this about Kasiki, and not
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: to like blame everything on Mac, but like the seems
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: just are not open for this quarterback.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: It's not he's just.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Stopped doing it. How many stopped doing it? But he should,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah he should. He cannot throw that pass and my guy,
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: but on this since he.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Was a rookie.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so that's tough. That always, But that's a that's
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: a good one.
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: Like we'll go back to what we thought, you know
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: heading in and you know, I may have been you know,
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: critical of Juju for Myers, but I was not critical
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: of Kasiki for John who and I said, no, I
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: can see I'm with the fans on this one. I
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: think that's an upgrade. It hasn't been. He's the same
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: as John O was here. Yeah, he's kind of a non.
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: Factor and June you look it's it's it's Jen.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I like ju jus that all right, let's open it
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: up to the callers. Well, art with Alan in Canada
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: on the ACE ticket hot line. What's up.
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a first time, long time.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 35:11
  Speaker 12: I usually take the drive down nine hours from where
• 35:14
  Speaker 12: I live and I go see a Patriots game every year.
• 35:18
  Speaker 12: This year I had the unfortunate circumstance to come and
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: see the Saints.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: So you're looking for your money this season?
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I had fun, but you know I've seen better games.
• 35:33
  Speaker 12: Looking at the reality of where we are, I think
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: last game is the perfect game if we could have
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: the same scenario for the rest of the year, meaning
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: that the defense is playing somewhat well, knowing that we
• 35:48
  Speaker 12: have good players coming back, and the offense is in
• 35:54
  Speaker 12: reality good enough to be in there at the end
• 35:58
  Speaker 12: of the game and then ash and burn at the
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: last second and lose the game. Basically, that's what I
• 36:04
  Speaker 12: want to see for the rest of the season, because
• 36:08
  Speaker 12: you know, there's no hope in this season and at
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: least with this type of game that we just had.
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: At least I watched the whole thing when I came
• 36:15
  Speaker 12: and seeing the Saints. You know, people were leaving at halftime.
• 36:20
  Speaker 10: So.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there would have been people leaving at
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: halftime that.
• 36:26
  Speaker 12: We have a home that we can actually win a
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: game and then still lose it and get a good draft.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I want to have my heart. I want to get
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: I want to heart ripped out everybody. I still lose it.
• 36:35
  Speaker 7: Part of it that that's taking one on one right there.
• 36:38
  Speaker 7: Enough hope that I know we got something with the
• 36:40
  Speaker 7: roster that isn't completed.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I get I get Allen's points.
• 36:44
  Speaker 6: I just would say, like, can we play a little
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: bit more of an entertaining kind of game, Like do
• 36:49
  Speaker 6: we have to see more of Bryce Barrener.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Than anybody else?
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Because this is what Bill wants like I would want.
• 36:54
  Speaker 6: I would like to think you can find a way
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: to lose a game. You know, I don't know twenty
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: four twenty one, so at least you have some offense
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: like twenty seventeen, seventeenth thirty.
• 37:06
  Speaker 7: Don't get, don't get this game in Germany is exactly
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: how he wants to play football, Like.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: If I have to watch that game eight more times,
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, I don't know if I'll make the
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Giants game might be Yeah, the Giants game unprepared for.
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I actually think the Patriots are.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Gonna kill them als in Wisconsin? What's up?
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Al?
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: Hey, how you guys doing all right?
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've got to thanks.
• 37:27
  Speaker 13: I'll try to be quick with it. The first thing
• 37:30
  Speaker 13: is a challenge callers. You're gonna call and talk about
• 37:35
  Speaker 13: Drake May and Caleb Williams. Come with a take, not
• 37:39
  Speaker 13: just hey, who do you guys want? Drake Way, Drake May,
• 37:43
  Speaker 13: Caleb Williams because I can't hear that.
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Oh neither can we.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be man.
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: The second thing is maybe talking to your phone, you guys,
• 37:57
  Speaker 11: what do you guys.
• 37:58
  Speaker 13: Take out of the.
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: Bill?
• 38:03
  Speaker 13: I haven't even decided on where he's going to be
• 38:05
  Speaker 13: max If I'm a player and.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I see that, like, yeah, whose report was that?
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Said it? It wasn't a report. Since walked it back
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: because I think I.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: Think he has sort of gotten a lesson about journalism
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: a little bit, like you can't just say things.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw San Diego or Chargers.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Well Gary Myers, who had a report a couple of days,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: you know, it's he's followed up with this whole thing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: And I gotta say, I think Gary meyers initial report
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. I think I think
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: that's exactly what what did that say? It said that,
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots, this is going to be it.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: The Patriots are going to continue to pay him, and
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: if another team comes calling, there'll be compensation that the
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Patriots will ask for.
• 38:56
  Speaker 7: Uh, but that this is it so basically like he'll
• 39:00
  Speaker 7: step away from coaching like Sean Payton.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he'll still be under contract. He'll be paid.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: But you know, I thought, for me, the first thing
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: I thought it was Bill versus the Chargers social media
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: team would be just.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: World war even thought of it.
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: And I don't you know, I don't like to advocate
• 39:22
  Speaker 6: for people losing jobs, but house, if he got that
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: job and I was on that social media team, I'd
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: be punching up the old resume.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: But if your Bill, and like, you know, do you
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: come into a new situation like that.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: And say I don't have time. I got two years here,
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: I just gotta I just got to get Justin Herbert
• 39:46
  Speaker 5: to play you know, sound football.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: So fred, I want to go back to the Gary
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: Myers thing. So do you think.
• 39:55
  Speaker 14: So?
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: Do you do you think that Bill wants to coach
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: next year?
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: I do?
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: Do you think that?
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: Let's just play it out and so he's going to
• 40:08
  Speaker 6: step aside or he's not going to force Robert to
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: fire him. He's gonna say I don't want to coach.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like he's gonna do what Peyton did. I know,
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: but I don't want to coach you, right, But you
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: know right, that's what Peyton did. Peyton wanted to keep coaching.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: He didn't want to He didn't want to continue to coach.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Just like you can't force somebody to make you work,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: you can't force somebody to fire you. Like if they
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: say we're not firing you, you're just not going to
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: coach anymore, that's okay.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: But if if Bill wants to coach, then you have
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: to fire him, is my point?
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: No, you do, yes, you do. You just take away
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: his responsibilities.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: Then you have to pay him. That's breach of content.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: They are going to pay him, But why his job
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: is going to be to go to anti they are
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: Pay if he wants to continue to coach here, right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: and they don't let him do that, Yeah, then you
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: fired him, but not if you're still paying him. So
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: then you're telling him he can't coach anywhere else.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: No, unless they give compensation. Correct.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't see that all happening now.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: The question now, but it's a good question because what
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I was thinking this out, how much how much compensation
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: can you demand before the league steps in and says, whoa, whoa, whoa,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: you're being unreasonable. This guy has a right to work.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: You know you're asking and I'm just gonna throw out
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: a number just to be crazy. But you're asking for
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: four first round picks. That's unreasonable, and you're you're barring
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: this guy from his livelihood even though you're paying him.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: He wants to work, and you're not allowing him because
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: four first round picks is not reasonable the league. I
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: think in this case when it was Parcels going to
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the Jets from here, and I think the league determined
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: what the reasonable compensation would be, but I think the
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: Patriots would have to abide by it.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: But what I'm asking, what if he wants to coach
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, you know, not an option.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Not an option, then then you can't stop him, and
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: you can't demand compensation.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I think you can.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: They're breaching the contract Fred Parcel.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: It was the same thing with parts.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Parcells didn't want to coach the Patriots.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: But he wanted to coach elsewhere, right.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: And Bill doesn't in this scenario. This is hypothetical, I know,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I think though, just just like a coach doesn't want
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to coach anymore, a team can say we don't want
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: you to coach anymore, but we're gonna pay you.
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: So that right, But then you can't have both.
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: But if he wants to continue to coach the Patriots
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: and you won't let him, that ends the contract. That's
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: firing him, so you don't have to pay him, mate,
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: but he gets to go wherever he wants. Now, I
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: think you're probably right. I think Bill, this is kind
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: of on you know, hasn't really been talked about. As
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: part of this is how much does Bill want to stay?
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing.
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: Maybe he doesn't want to stay anymore either, So in
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: that case then you could do what friends.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: And I I think that you know, maybe it is
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: brinksmanship on both sides parts. But if the you know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like I'm sure that the Crafts know whether Bill wants
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: to stay or go, Yeah, and they're probably strategized like
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: he wants to go.
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: You think they've had conversations about this already. Yes, I
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: don't know.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know either.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Why do you say yes?
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: Because I don't.
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: I learned with Brady the hard way that none of
• 43:25
  Speaker 7: this stuff happens overnight at good point.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: And I just think that.
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: Brady, I think knew that twenty nineteen was his last
• 43:34
  Speaker 7: season with the Patriots, the.
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: Entire year, and he told us that in the summer. Yeah,
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: And I think that it's the same with Bill.
• 43:42
  Speaker 7: And in some ways that almost makes me feel better
• 43:45
  Speaker 7: about what's happened, because the only explanation I can have
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: of why he just let this whole thing just crumble
• 43:51
  Speaker 7: to the ground is because he wasn't trying to be.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: But let's just let's play you know, strategy here, and
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: let's say Paul's correct, A team can't stop a guy
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: who wants to coach. But let's it but without firing, right,
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: without fire. But let's say Bill, Let's say the Chargers. Okay,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: just to name of team. Let's say Bill wants to
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: go to the Chargers. He's already even had backdoor conversations
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers like yeah, I want to go coach you.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: But he doesn't want to go in in his first
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: year not having that first round draft pick that the
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: Chargers would have to give up. So he plays brinksmanship
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: with the Crafts and said, no, I want to stay,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: you know I And like, how, like I.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Really think he's going to get a first round pick.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Huh.
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: That's what my question is, just what is a realistic
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: conversation for this.
• 44:38
  Speaker 7: I don't know if he will get a first round pick,
• 44:41
  Speaker 7: but that I'm holding a hard line on that. If
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: I'm Robert Kraft, like, I'm not giving him up.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: But that's part of the brinksmanship that Fred's talking about.
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: You can do that, then you run the risks and
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: saying Okay, I'll stay. Yeah, but you don't want him
• 44:53
  Speaker 6: to stay.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Right, You don't want him And that's why, to Evan's point,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I think maybe it's better to just get it out
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: in the open with the guy, right.
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: And I think that's what all of this stuff is
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: an effort to do I think that, you know, like
• 45:05
  Speaker 6: to your point, you think Gary Myers might have it right, Well,
• 45:09
  Speaker 6: I don't think Gary Meyers just pulled it out of
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: the air. I think he's probably talking to some people.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think maybe it's better that they did
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: already have that that talk.
• 45:19
  Speaker 5: So, Paul, you're not gonna let me imagine a fantasy
• 45:21
  Speaker 5: LAMB where we get a first round pick for Bill Belichick.
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: No, I have no idea. Maybe they will.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: I mean I find it maybe the Chargers because that
• 45:29
  Speaker 6: will probably be around twenty, So I mean, maybe that
• 45:32
  Speaker 6: could happen, like the Bears ain't given you one now, but.
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: The Commanders would be around the same, like fifteen to
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: twenty probably where they're going.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: I just think that I told you my sources in
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: Washington say that Washington is not interested in Bill. I
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: don't know if that's true, but you know, with my source,
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say sources.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I only had one with the with the Belichick from
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: the Jets to hear Belichick didn't want to coach there.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: They wanted him to, but he said, I'm not coaching
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: for you with parcels. Both parties didn't wanted parcels didn't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: want to coach here anymore, and the Crafts didn't want
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: him to coach here anymore either, but they wanted compensation.
• 46:07
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, right, I think I think that is the precedent.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: I was thinking a lot about it last night. And
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, but don't you just
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: like I feel like it's going to be yourub Mayo, Like, right,
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: it's got to be your Mayo.
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: I'm not saying I'm I'm you know, one hundred percent Condonia,
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: but like.
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: I would certainly say that that's what the indications look like.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I'm Here's the thing.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing is, you know we talked about, well,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots never fire a coach in mid season,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: but teams do that, and they have done that, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: just one of the reasons they do that is so
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: that they get ahead start on the off season. You know.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: So I would imagine that if if it is the
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Craft you know, uh, endgame to have a new regime,
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: they got to move fast. They got to move fast
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: because you got the Senior Bowl and the you know,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: you've got to have people in place that are going
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to go and start that scouting process leading up to
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: the draft. You can't wait around, I think it, and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: that might be the quickest way to get going.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: So and I also will say, like some of these things,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: there's two different things.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I agree with you.
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: The bet the faster you can do it, the better.
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: But that's why a lot of these teams that make
• 47:19
  Speaker 6: these transitions keep the scouting department in place. And Belichick
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: himself did it here. Bobby Greer didn't get fired until
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: after the draft, so back in two thousand, because all
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: that work and all that prep is done by those
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: guys that are in personnel.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: I think Macro will still be here too, you know,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and he may go after the draft if you know,
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: they want to clean it all out.
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I I agree. I always thought it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: was interesting that we have Matt grow and Elliott Wolf.
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: I figured by now Elliott Wolf would be gone to
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: another team, you know.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I was also I was thinking, like, who
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: does Bill take if he were to go to the Chargers?
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: Did like well, but but but but seriously though, like
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: and I thought about that, But you know, these are
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: both two young guys with young families that are this
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: is all they know is living in New England. I
• 48:08
  Speaker 5: mean it's not just like all right, Steve Bryant, we're
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: going to like it's a that's a hard that's.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: A hard see like the l a thing for that,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: Like it just doesn't strike me as.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Like and I just the charges only because that was
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: the number one he sets the number one on that
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: list and his follow up story he mentioned the charge.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I saw the tweet.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: I just like the fit of what they have there,
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: of what that team's kind of persona is. And it
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: feels like if Bill Belichick, and I'm talking about the
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: proverbial Bill Belichick, not Bill Belichick right now, like could
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: come in and and still discipline into a team and
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: get them all, you know, like they do anime to
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: kick a field goal, it's going to be anime. Oh boy,
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: oh boy, fire the But I thought the same thing too,
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: Fred that you said where it's like, if he goes
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: to a new place, does he have time and the
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: energy to do everything that he's put into place here
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: in terms of having everything under his thumb, Like do
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: you have that mental capacity now when you've got to
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: go into a new team and like you got to win,
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: like you got you can't just come in and spend
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: your your half your first day, like going through like
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: the social media productions and being like this isn't gonna
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: work for me now, you know, Like it just seems
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: like I don't know, it's gonna be hard for him.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: I can't see the Chargers and and you know, we
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: could all be wrong. Maybe because it doesn't want to
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: coach anymore. Maybe the Crafts pay him, you know, out
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: of contract as thank you for your service. Yeah, and
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 49:26
  Speaker 7: I think I can't see the Chargers for two reasons. One,
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: I think if you're the Chargers, you have to get
• 49:33
  Speaker 7: an offensive minded head coach for Justin Herbert because you
• 49:37
  Speaker 7: just did it with a defensive guy and it's it's
• 49:39
  Speaker 7: not good enough. He's good enough, but the rest of
• 49:42
  Speaker 7: it's not good enough. And I still don't know if
• 49:46
  Speaker 7: the spanis Is are gonna pay him, right, And so
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: if the Crafts are still paying Bill, then maybe, but
• 49:53
  Speaker 7: if you're trading him, then you're not still paying.
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: But that's probably yeah, and that's probably only for a
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: year or anyway, right, even if you didn't trade for.
• 49:58
  Speaker 7: The Spaniss are not paying him twenty five million dollars
• 50:01
  Speaker 7: a year to be your coach.
• 50:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the other The thought I kind of
• 50:05
  Speaker 5: came to to a Mayo is he's kind of a
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: good steward to get you over the post Belichick hump. Now,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: I know everybody wants to hire the hot new offensive
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: mind that it's going to be the guy who partners
• 50:16
  Speaker 5: with a quarterback and takes you back to the promised
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: they Okay, well I got something for you. Is that realistic?
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: So Drodmeo is the head coach, which I think is
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: going to happen too. Yeah, yeah, I think that Josh
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: is coming back. Josh McDaniels is not getting another head
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: coaching job.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: Now, I really hate it.
• 50:32
  Speaker 5: Would Bill take Josh with him at a newsplace.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Maybe.
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you're if you're the if you're
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: worried about the offensive coordinator cares al that we've had
• 50:44
  Speaker 7: the last couple of years.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: He's not getting a third head coaching job.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: He could end up being like the offensive coordinator for
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: the Steelers that was there forever, Like.
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: He could be here for like the last time when
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: he got fired by the Broncos. Is here for ten years?
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: You know, And I think that Gerrod Mayo as the
• 51:01
  Speaker 7: head coach, Josh McDaniels as the offensive coordinator that still
• 51:06
  Speaker 7: keeps the fingerprints of what was successful here, but it's
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: a different sort.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: Of guy running the show. And I'm I'm with Paul.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: I don't really like it because I would rather just
• 51:16
  Speaker 7: start start anew But I think that starting a new
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: for the Craft might be a little bit too risky.
• 51:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just I wonder, you know, if if
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Bill might take Steve, you know, would take Steve to
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: be his defensive coordinator somewhere else, and it.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Can take Steve wherever, you know, and then Steve and then.
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: Gira, you know, maybe it's de Marcus Covington.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: You know, I just how would it all fall out.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: The defensive coordinator here? I could see that, yeah, Or Patrick.
• 51:41
  Speaker 5: Graham, Patrick, I just trying to make peace, trying to
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: make peace with with the Mayo of it all. And
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: I think that's just where I arrived, was like, you know,
• 51:49
  Speaker 5: is it realistic?
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Spread Mayo too things.
• 51:54
  Speaker 5: Let's just keep Mayo on the side for the second
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: and talk about the best. But you know, a few
• 52:00
  Speaker 5: years like and and he's the one who gets a
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: past Bill, and we get some drafticks, we start to
• 52:05
  Speaker 5: acquire talent. Now maybe Mayo gets to a point where, hey,
• 52:08
  Speaker 5: three four years in, it's it's not you're not getting
• 52:10
  Speaker 5: to that next level, and then you need to make
• 52:12
  Speaker 5: that offensive move finally. But I think I'm just.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Trying in my heart to make peace with that move.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Obviously I like a lot about it, but there's all
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: we all there are things we don't like about that
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: move too. But I think it could work in a
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: way if our expectation wasn't that this next coach is
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: going on.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Josh came back, you know, because we look at his
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: failures as a head coach and we have to separate
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that from his successes as an offensive coordinator. And he
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: dealt with the greatest of all time and the great
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and had a great relationship with Tom Brady. It wasn't
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: like contentious, don't talk to me, I already know you don't,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: can't teach me anything. They got along really well. And then,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: as much as we know that it wasn't as good
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: as some people thought that first year with Mac.
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah it was fine.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: That was fine.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: Fine, it's fine.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Thing that books me though, that's not scares me, But
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: that's because Mac wasn't good, right.
• 53:05
  Speaker 5: The thing that scares me.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: Is everybody else not good enough that he's coached either
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: except for Brady because he's never really had a great
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: offense with that I know.
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: But he was also the quarterback by Brady maccas had.
• 53:15
  Speaker 6: What about when he was a offensive coordinator for the
• 53:17
  Speaker 6: Rams and they had a historically bad offense, the bad situation.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: The other thing that scares me with him is the
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: Raiders players this year. The reports coming out that they're like,
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: we have this old offense that they don't want to modernize.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: They want to keep doing it the way they've been
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: doing it for.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Twenty where they said about him here when he left.
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, that's the people that that's you know again, I
• 53:35
  Speaker 6: don't often talk to people because you know, people don't
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: talk to me. But that's what they said about They
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: needed to That's why they tried to change things.
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: But they didn't do it right. I was poor judge,
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: but that's why they wanted to change.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: But your offense is your quarterback. So weren't there reports
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: that Josh McDaniels really like Lamar Jackson when that draft
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: came out.
• 53:59
  Speaker 6: And can you but you imagine all those guys like
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield. He liked Baker Mayfield, Like, we don't just
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: put the one that won the MVP, but you also
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: liked Tim Tebow.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't.
• 54:11
  Speaker 7: I don't love it like with josh I don't. But
• 54:14
  Speaker 7: at the same time, I think with Girod Mayo, I
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: do actually like a lot about Gerrod Mayo. I love
• 54:20
  Speaker 7: a lot about you, and I think that he is
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: what we talked to him, you know, in the offseason
• 54:26
  Speaker 7: after the draft, and I remember him talking about how
• 54:30
  Speaker 7: more involved he was with the draft. He actually went
• 54:33
  Speaker 7: out to Oregon and had a private meeting with Christian
• 54:35
  Speaker 7: Gonzalez before the draft that nobody knew about, and those
• 54:39
  Speaker 7: types of things, and just listening to him talk about
• 54:42
  Speaker 7: the college game, like he he recognizes I think where
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: the winds are blowing in football, that football is now
• 54:50
  Speaker 7: about speed, it's about space, It's about scheming guys into space.
• 54:54
  Speaker 7: Like even though he's a defensive minded head coach, I
• 54:57
  Speaker 7: think that he would still have that that to be
• 55:00
  Speaker 7: innovative on the offensive side of the ball and to
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: recognize that. So maybe josh isn't the right guy for
• 55:06
  Speaker 7: him to be the coordinator. But the only reason why
• 55:08
  Speaker 7: I came up with Joshua just because he's not going
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: anywhere if you hire the Josh is definitely a candidate,
• 55:13
  Speaker 7: if you hire the next Brian Dable or something like that.
• 55:16
  Speaker 7: In a year or two, he's just gonna get a
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: head coaching job and then where you So look.
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: At it this way too, okay, So like this is
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: why you can't dismiss Josh and stuff like this. Gered
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: Mayo has been an NFL coach since I think nineteen.
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, five years, I know.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: So what does he have to fall back on to
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: put a staff together? If everybody goes right and then Josh.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Comes back with Briscilla with McK lombardy.
• 55:40
  Speaker 6: Maybe that's a way to get a staff sort of compiled.
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: But I don't think it's ideal. I don't think it's ideal.
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: And it's not anti Josh because you guys know, you
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: all know I like Josh Suaw. I just feel like
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: it might be time for a fresh offense too, like
• 55:57
  Speaker 6: just in general, let's just do things differently, I understand.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: But that also means a fresh quarterback too, right, Well,
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: Think that's I agree with you. I thought that was
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: like a call him deductive proofs.
• 56:10
  Speaker 5: And my son's geometry had to help him.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: The other night, given new quarterback, I thought that was
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: I am one hundred percent with you with the new offense,
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: and I would love to see them do it. I
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: just it has to be the head coach then, because
• 56:22
  Speaker 6: the guy's just gonna leave and you're gonna be in
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: the same situation that you were with Mac where you
• 56:27
  Speaker 6: have no offensive coordinator.
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: And so then if if it is the head coach,
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: and that's all well and good. If I if I'm
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: the crafts if they hire let's just use Ben Johnson
• 56:36
  Speaker 7: because that's the name everybody wants to talk about. They
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: hire Ben Johnson, I'm going to Gid Mayo and I'm saying,
• 56:42
  Speaker 7: we didn't forget about you. We're gonna make you defensive coordinator,
• 56:45
  Speaker 7: and we're gonna pay you like a defensive coordinator, and
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: you're it's gonna be your show on that side of
• 56:49
  Speaker 7: the ball. I just I want Mayo here to run
• 56:52
  Speaker 7: the defense because I think the defense is still a
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: really good defensive system and I don't want to uproot
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: the defensive system and change it.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: Compell like that. I like that too.
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: I like keeping him around. You get a new co coach,
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: new offensive.
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not easy, and I'm not like it probably
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: sounds like I'm being critical of some of the suggestions,
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: and I don't.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: I don't mean to be.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: It's not an easy situation that the Crafts are going
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: to be in. I do think it's hard to take
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: twenty plus years of something that works so well and
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: then have to figure out do I tweak it?
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Do I change it? Do I blow it up?
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: And start all over that what pieces to it? It's
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: not easy to figure out exactly what the course of actions.
• 57:29
  Speaker 5: What are the important pieces that would be best?
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 57:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I would also just love if I was the
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: Crafts and if Macro was like seriously in consideration to
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: stick around as GM Director of Player Personnel. You got
• 57:42
  Speaker 7: to call him into the office and be like, all right,
• 57:43
  Speaker 7: show me your draft, right, Like what in twenty twenty two?
• 57:46
  Speaker 7: What would you have done if it was because this right?
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: Because if twenty twenty two he said, oh, you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: I would have taken cold strange and I'm out right,
• 57:55
  Speaker 7: you know, you have to prove to me that that
• 57:57
  Speaker 7: was actually a bit.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I wonder if that conversation hasn't already taken place, because
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: if you're the craft aren't you like curious as hell
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: to have known who wanted who the last four years.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: The code red, you know, especially that twenty twenty tour.
• 58:12
  Speaker 5: I mean that one has been.
• 58:14
  Speaker 4: Like we talked about, we take him down to his
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: dark place. No, no, thank you, Please don't go there.
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: Every time I go to that like Pro Football Reference
• 58:21
  Speaker 5: where it's Patriots drafts history happy and they have like
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: the weighted averages of like their career.
• 58:26
  Speaker 7: Like that's like, oh, missus in a sunk place again.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: I tried Pro Football Reference. We tried to pull him out,
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: got a draft.
• 58:34
  Speaker 12: Good.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: He's surfing those sites again.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's a fascinating conversation. And you know, I
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: imagine a lot of people. I can't believe you're having
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: this conversation with most it's listen, it is.
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: Out yeah, I mean two and eight guys.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is out there. And I think I think
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: it's appropriate to be just speculating. I mean, and that's
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: all we're doing, by the way, Yeah, we're just speculating.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: We don't have any inside information. I say that before
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: when we get into these topics, we're just going by
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: what everybody knows. We have nothing inside anyway, but we
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: do have Paul's launch, So we're gonna take a break
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after that.
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  Speaker 4: What's up everybody?
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 8: Patriots Special team captain Matthew Slater addressed the media yesterday.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what he had to say.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: Probably do a lot of self scalt, try to get
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 10: myself physically as ready as I can to finish the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 10: season a strong.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: Do you approach it like a time to get away?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: Or is it like staying here and oh no no.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 10: With four kids and two of them in school, there's
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 10: no time to get away.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 17: So yeah, do you feel like the FIB week is
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 17: coming out a good time for you guys, given you know,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 17: you guys are two an a can refresh and refocus.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think it's a good time for a lot
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: of reasons what you mentioned, and I j I just
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 10: think you know, we've played a lot of football and
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 10: guys are certainly feeling it. So it's good physically, it's
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: good mentally with the way things have gone this year,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 10: so hopefully we can make the most of it.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 17: We'll get to you the confidence that you guys can
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 17: come back, you know, stronger and you know, finish out
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 17: the season strong.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean faith.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: I mean, uh, if you don't have faith in what
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: you're doing, why are you coming in here every day?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 10: And for me, you know, I still have faith in
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: the people in this building, our process, the people leading us.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: I have faith in a lot of things.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 10: So sometimes you have to have faith even when you
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 10: haven't seen the results that you would have liked.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, but that's that's life, right, So it's just
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: part of it.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: What's your advice fellow captain, team leader, the a guy
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: like Mac going through what is going through right now.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 10: The questions whether or not just remain as positive as
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 10: possible and ignore the voices and opinions that are not
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 10: gonna impact your day to day living, because Lord knows,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: there are a lot of them out there, but most
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 10: of them don't really matter. So be positive, continue to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 10: say true to yourself, your process, and that that goes for.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: All of us, not just him.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 9: When you have.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 18: In Germany where you come home and everyone's talking about
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 18: the quarterback, quarterback quarterback as one of your leaders, kind
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 18: of thoughts that you have on that or is it
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 18: one of those things, like you said, where you just
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 18: tell everybody to just keep going.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I've never been the quarterback, so I'm
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 10: I don't want to speak for him. I can under
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 10: I can see and understand how that would be very challenging,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 10: especially with the way things have gone this year for
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 10: our football team. So again, I think, as much as
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: you can, you have to limit those voices and you know,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 10: continue to take advantage of the opportunities that lie ahead
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 10: of you. You know, live your professional experience with a
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 10: lot of gratitude, and that should be the foundation from
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 10: which we're all working as gratitude. You know, we have
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 10: a great opportunity to play a game we love, so
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 10: never lose sight of that.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: And you know it's challenging.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 10: I'm sure it's challenging for all of us, but you know,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 10: just gotta keep going.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: Opportunity.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: How much do you kind of.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: You kind of make a season?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 10: Absolutely, I mean, look, that's the exciting thing. You know.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: You hope you can uh change the narrative of our
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: of our story and and how that story ends. And
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: you know, we we have a say in that, which
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 10: is a beautiful thing. So hopefully we can do the
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 10: things that we need to do to start getting some
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 10: of the outcomes we'd like to see. And you know,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 10: you know, you never know what can happen. So we
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 10: just got like I said earlier, we just got to
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 10: keep the faith, keep going.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Is it important guys just photograph?
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 10: I can't speak for the team, it's not, but it's
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 10: not important for me. I just come here and do
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 10: my job, keep my head down. And you know, those
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 10: are decisions that I'm not involved in and and they
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: don't impact you know, what I have to do personally.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: Leaderships.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: You know, picked up a lot.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: You know, I Uh, I think eventually I I'll look
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: back upon this season and be grateful for Uh. I've
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 10: said it, you know, several times throughout the course of
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 10: the season. But you know, it's easy to be a
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 10: front runner and leave when things are going well, and
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 10: uh to encourage and build up and lift up and
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 10: and work hard when things are going well. But when
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 10: they're not, I think it really tests your character and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 10: it tests your conviction. And you know, I think the
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 10: things that I say I believe in and want to
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 10: live out, you know, they've been challenging to do this year,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 10: you know, staying positive, UH, continue to encourage. But I'm
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 10: learning what that looks like under these types of circumstances.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 10: And I think it's gonna serve me well, you know,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 10: in the future as a husband, as a father, because
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 10: that's how life is. Right, nobody's life goes exactly how
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 10: they envision it, their twists and turn.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: So it's been good.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 16: When someone accidentally threw away the school play costumes, oh no.
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  Speaker 4: And Now great moments in.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: History. Maybe I'm over.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: That's going around too, that's going around too. What the
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 5: picture he postedfuge? He posted a picture and it was
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: him like smiling and if you look close, he was
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: at Giallette Stag. Was this Brady Brady? The picture he
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 5: posted was him from the Tampa.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: I didn't I didn't look at the thing.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: I know you didn't.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I was asking, was on part of this thing printed
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: in more trees than anybody I've ever seen? Will you
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: file that right?
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: We're just talking about how you know when when we're
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 6: doing the show, we should reference your phone and just
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: look on.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: Radio the animal there, Eric think about that. My second
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: question is whether you guys think that's another great moment
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: from all right back here and Patriots Unfiltered. We're joined
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: by Alex Francisco because it's PI Day. How you doing, Alex?
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  Speaker 19: I'm doing okay?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 19: Good? Not great?
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  Speaker 4: She's here early.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't know about I I'm.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 19: Like two and a half hours of traffic. We need
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 19: Where are you coming from West Springfield?
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: What's going on over there?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Normally would be like two hours on the big Is
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: the Big E happening?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 19: If you told me there was a tech car pile
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 19: up on the mass Pike today, I would believe you.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 19: With what the traffic?
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Really, where's everybody going?
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: I hope everybody's demonstrators blocking the bridge for calling for
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: a ceasefire the.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Bu bridge, right, yeah, but that's not affecting her.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, crap, that's that's my alma mater. The first thing
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: that puffed up.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 19: If you're listening, the first.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: Thing I thought is I wouldn't have been able to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: go to class because that was the bridge I had
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: to get to class over.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 5: It feels like you pull those days like once every
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 5: two months, all of a sudden, it's just a log
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 5: jam on.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 7: Next week should be better because everybody's off for Thanksgiving
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 7: one Almost every.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 20: Month, Duce gets a text, Heyduce, my e t A is.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 5: Three hours from now.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 7: I think I have a bad You need to closer.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 5: I know you just have a commute off.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Paul and Alex nothing, So I'm gonna put you on
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: the spots like Alex. In the first half of the show.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: We did some mid season awards. I don't want to
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: go through every category, but give me your best play
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 20: It might be one of them during the Eagles game,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 20: but I think just the implications of Jasicki's game winner
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 20: against the Bills this spot.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 19: I would say that one.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, and give me your biggest surprise player not including
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the Mario Douglas and your biggest disappointment.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 19: Okay.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 20: Maybe this is recency bias, because Tavia, I think has
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 20: been He was pretty well like stringing some really good
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 20: games together, all this craziness.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so's man's playing football, nodding in approval.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 19: Yes, disappointing. I mean juju, I would say another one.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 5: That good job, Al, you nailed it.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 4: You're nailing it.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Good, good, stuffy among them. Yeah, so we did that.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 7: Okay, I got one more. How much did the Celtics
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: miss market? Smart at nine and two zero?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 5: Not at all? I like this guy, what is it? Drew?
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: It's just true. It's just true, unless you're.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 19: I loved Marcus.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: But I mean, we haven't had.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 19: I supposed to do.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 7: We haven't had a chance to talk any Celtics really because.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: You know, this is the Patriots.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 5: Celtics dot com.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, we.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 7: Have to talk about a good team in town. So
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 7: we talked about this yesterday.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: It's going to start a new podcast, Catch ten. It's
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: gonna have the All ten View of basketball, start a new.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 4: Thing that actually does exist, does it? It does.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: It's a small board that.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: View for Don't ask me. I don't know.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: They're all in the bunch.
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 20: That's been really trendy on Twitter though, amongst like sports
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 20: social media teams.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 5: Have you guys seen all the the hockey team camp.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: We're going to have that too. From the lighthouse.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 4: We need somebody to highlight.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to the phone.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 7: Did you bring did you bring this up to Maz
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 7: about his his little.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Put another one out? I forgot. I have to me
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: and him?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: Did me and him have beef?
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 5: Now he's starting to he's starting in frinch upon Evans.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: You need to get out of get off of film. Twitter,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: go back to complaining about.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: How did he get the one?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: He was highlighting windows, he was highlighting open receivers.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 7: Somebody said he's a gadget guy. Somebody clearly does the
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 7: editing for him. Some interurn was like, I'll do it, Towny.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: Let's get to the phones. We gotta hurry because it's
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: picks day. Eldridge is in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 9: Heyling?
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: All right, yep, hey fella.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 12: Yeah, with you complete duo.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 9: I don't want Mayo. If the coach Daniel come in
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 9: and get a new quarterback and get a new office
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 9: calling like Ben Jonson or Banry or whoever, you know,
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 9: if he had to go to a college coach, get
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 9: them too, just rebuild it over and just start from there.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 9: Because to go take another five years, so you might
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 9: well just do it.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I would write the first time completely redo.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that, and I don't think it
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: has to take that long though.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: I think if you do it well, get some thanks,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: some some smart picks, and some good fortune, I think
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: you can turn it around.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 5: Do you guys know the story of how Robert found
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 5: Pete Carroll? Like, how did that come about?
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: They did? They were looking at a lot of people
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: and they talked to Bill Walsh, and Bill Walsh was
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: a big advocate, and I think they listened to Bill Walsh.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: I just learned something. Yeah, so I never heard that story.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 7: Tom Pelisaro does that annual list of like rising head.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 4: Coach in candidate.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 7: Three Patriots coaches on that, so he did it. It
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 7: came out yesterday. So here are some of the offensive names,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 7: because we're all on the offense. Thomas Brown from the Panthers,
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: who's been on this list before. I think I'm not
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 7: sure if I'm hiring head offensive coaches from the Panthers.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: A guy that they've gone back and forth with Reich
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 6: who's calling the plays and now it's back to Raik.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: Yes, this is a good one, though, Brian Callahan from
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 7: the Cincinnati Bengals.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Good offensive line guy. Yeah, who I think.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 7: Deserves a lot of credit for for their offense is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 7: on this list. Luke Getzi with the Bears, which I
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 7: think is hilarious. I wouldn't touch that with a ten
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 7: foot poll. Ben Johnson from the Lions obviously, Brian Johnson
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 7: from the Eagles, quarterbacks guy from the Eagles.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 5: A lot of basic name guys on this list, John Callahan.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 4: Mike Kafka from the Giants.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: So William Smith, our very own Megan O'Brien and has
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 6: been texting me a little bit about Kafka. She you know,
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: went to school with him and she's very high on
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 6: Mike Kafka.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 7: Yep, w w's we'll scroll past Grod Mayo on the list. Uh,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 7: Kellen Moore from the Chargers.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I was wondering about Belichick if he, you know,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 6: like that whole Chargers thing, like we're Kellen Moore would
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: fit in.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: So this is an interesting one too.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: Drew Petsing from the Cardinals, the Cardinals offensive coordinator who
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 7: has somehow made that offense from what my guy, somehow
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: made that offense relevant here. So here's another really big
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: name that that a lot of people are starting to
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 7: pay attention to. Now, Bobby Sloak from the Texans, the
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 7: offensive coordinator from the Texans, who obviously has C. J.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 4: Stroud playing.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: And I saw something on on the Twitter machine yesterday
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 6: that had that old Washington coaching staff and it was
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: you know, Shanahan, Mike McDaniel, there was someone else McVeigh
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: and Bobby Slowick like they.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Were all in the staff together.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Matt was his face, so tight pants, young guy
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: in tight pants, like Felger says, that's what.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: That's what, that's what.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: So that's Bbby Slowan's It's just so funny though that
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: we're so just shaking head coach starve that. You know,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator has some success and all of a
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: sudden he should be a head coach. You know, it's
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: a totally different job.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: So it doesn't mean it's going to be a success now,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 6: I know, But that's how it works. You're coordinator, you
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 6: have success, and you become a head coach.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 7: So Frank Smith from the Dolphins, he's the Dolphins offense
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 7: to your.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: Category Johnson, Brian Johnson.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: Brian, I think you guys will know this guy. Press
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: Taylor from the Jaguars, offensive coordinator for the Jaguars, and
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: the last one here I think is also interesting because
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 7: I believe he was here for a minute Shane Waldron.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: A minute.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, so those those are the offensive coaches on
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 7: that list, but obviously we know Ben Johnson, Brian Callahan
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: from the Bengals.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: I think is interesting and slow I think is is
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: really interesting.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 5: Okay, what's interesting because all those guys would be first
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 5: time head coaches and the two guys that have hired
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 5: are both second time coaches.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 7: Yeah, correct, true, but where was Pee before this?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Jeffs Jets really let them make their mistake somewhere else
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: and then hire them. It's could be a philosophy.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: They were ten and one in ninety four and finished
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: ten and six and missed the playoffs, I believe, or
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: if they didn't, if they made the playoffs, that got
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 6: knocked out right away.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 4: But they were ten and one.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: One of the only reasons I remember I had his
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 5: football card, like I just remember it. Pete Carroll is
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: one of my you know, just yeah, remember seeing him
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 5: in the Jets. Nimm Let's go to John in l
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 5: A on the Ace ticket hot Line.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: Except John Johnny guy, all right, how are you hanging in?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 12: Man?
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 10: So?
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 21: Uh, I've been thinking it's way past time to start
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 21: collecting talents. I'm like, I know that phrase from early
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 21: in the Dynasty, and that's great, but I think we
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 21: can all agree with time select talents. And I keep
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 21: thinking about the It's like what you guys are just
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 21: talking about before Paul had.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: To eat, expect more from.
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 21: Me, Like, oh, this guy was available, but actually, like,
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 21: these are the guys that like to you guy writers
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 21: thought that's probably who we could take. That's the Patriots
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 21: guy in the first couple of rounds, and combining that,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 21: the core could be Debo, George Pickens, Keith Jacobe, Devin Lloyd,
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 21: Juwan Bentley, Christian Moore, Yon White, Kyle Duggar, Christian Gonzales,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 21: Jonathan Jones, Michael Lender.
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, this is not like high in the sky.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 21: This is like easily what it could have been if
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 21: Robert Kraft had said, you know what, let's not have
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 21: a a scouting department. Let's literally just go with what
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 21: the mock draft website say.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 4: And I think that's because we're all genius. We're all
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: smarter than everybody else. I'm wondering if.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 21: You guys think that's a good I mean, obviously that's
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 21: a better core, but is that a good enough core
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 21: if you get the quarterback, which obviously is a huge gift.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'd have to look at the whole core mentality.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 4: It sounded like a bunch of names, like I don't know, I.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: Think they're all good players, but I think mixed in
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: there you need a couple difference makers, you know, I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: think that.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 7: But I think what his general point, though I actually
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: kind of agree with, which I think is what his
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 7: general point is is yeah, sometimes and it's not about us.
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 5: Being smart than the team.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 7: I knew you were going to say that, no if
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 7: he didn't say, But my point is that sometimes I
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 7: think that teams outsmart themselves and like just what they
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 7: can say. Like Christian Gonzalez, even though he got hurt,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 7: Christian Gonzalez was a consensus top twenty first round pick
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: type of guy. And it's not a mistake that when
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: he got on the field with the Patriots that he
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 7: looked like he belonged in the NFL right away. And
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 7: sometimes when you go into the draft and you take
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 7: your coal strangers and you take these guys off the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 7: beaten path, and that there's a reason why nobody had
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 7: Cold Strange in the first round, and that I think
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 7: that's sometimes it's especially in the first round, to just
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 7: go with one of the like consensus top guys, like
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 7: to forget about the mock drafts, like just even in
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: the league, like around your peers.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 7: And you don't have the rams laughing at you on
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 7: draft night about drafting a guy three rallies.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: Did it?
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they were laughing at I don't really think it did.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: We were laughing at.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Us, just laughing all right, John, Thanks, thanks for the
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: coll Let's go to Dan and Florida.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: Hey.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Dan, Hey, you help me go on guy?
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 22: Hey, So I just want to give you guys my
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 22: take on the staff. Oh, regards to what you guys
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 22: were talking about earlier, I think the most appealing and
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 22: ideal staff going forward would be the clean house in
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 22: the front office. Bring in Adam Peters. He's very successful
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 22: with the forty nine ers that obviously, it's just seen
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 22: the forty nineers have.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 12: Put together as stellar roster.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 22: I think Mayo should stay, but I don't think he
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 22: should stay as the head coach. He should definitely stay
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 22: as the DC. I think that would be great. You
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 22: bring in Ben Johnson, who I think is one of
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 22: the top offensive mind is offensive minds out there, and
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 22: then you have to fire Joe Judge and Camra cor
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 22: because they spend so much money on special teams and
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 22: the special teams look like a giant disaster. It looks
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 22: like a dumpster fire. So those two gotta be out,
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 22: and they got to find somebody that can replace the
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 22: special teams. But I think that's the most ideal staff
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 22: to bring in. If Robert Kraft is very adamant about
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 22: going back to the Super Bowl, Okay, realistically?
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah right, thanks for the call. Trent writes in says
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: I'm disgusted with my fellow Patriots fans, and that's some quotes.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: Bill is the right man to lead the organization through
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: a rebuild. He's done it twice already in two thousand
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: and twenty ten. Mac is clearly not the guy. So
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: wouldn't firing Bill be like cutting off your nose to
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 1: spite your face? Why fire a proven coach just to
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: hire someone new. What if they draft a true starting
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 1: quarterback but the quarterback is paired with a coach who
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: isn't a fit to carry Bill's rings. Then we are
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: back at square one again. Firing Bill now would be
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: like firing him after the nine season he lost the team,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: can't reach the young guys anymore, etc. But the Craft
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: stuck with him and he brought three more championships home. Evan,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: you are wrong more than anybody. Yesterday you finally admitted
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: the twenty two draft class as a bus, and you
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 1: even said we all knew it was going to be
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: a bus from the start when the draft was fresh.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: Nobody was pounding the table for Matt grow harder than you.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Evan also said tons of teams have traded up to
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: the number one draft spot without tanking or selling the farm. Okay,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: name three.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 7: The Carolina Panthers last year traded up from eight to one. Also,
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 7: if you really want to know my thoughts on the
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty two draft class, I believe my reaction to
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 7: the cold strange pick still lives on on Clennis's YouTube.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 7: So why do you Why don't you go look at
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 7: that and maybe revisit your entire email?
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm wrong more than anybody.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: So first of all, we're comparing the rebuild from going
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: ten and six and losing in the playoffs to being
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: two and eight.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: That's the same thing.
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: Also, like he did it before, but as long as
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: Tom Brady was still on the team, there was no rebuild.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 6: Well, that's the other thing. And I totally recognized that
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: there's a line of demarcation where they had to sort
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 6: of reset a little bit, and they did have a
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 6: dip in nine to ten, you know.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 1: And then they made the Super Bowl and eleven.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean in ten they went fourteen and two,
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 6: but they just weren't They weren't that good and that
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: was proven out when they got knocked out.
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: Of the playoffs, but worse fourteen and two ever, Right.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And that's something that like, that's something that like
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: Brady would say, like, you know, he probably would have
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: said that like ten years later when he actually did
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: say it when they were eight. No, I just don't
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: think that that's the same as bottoming out rebuild when Okay,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: we're not quite as great as we used to be.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 6: We're just really good now we're not great. That's not
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: the same as what they're doing now.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think even in two thousand and one
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: that the rebuild, like they were surprised that they had
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 5: success like they.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 6: Did, And can I give you, like my number one
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: reason why I disagree with that you're comparing him rebuilding
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: when he was like fifty as opposed to seventy two,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: Like it's a big difference. It is, I know what
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 6: makes me sound like an ageist, and I shouldn't be
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: throwing those kinds of stones since I'm old. But I'm sorry,
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: I don't have a lot of faith in a seventeen
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: year old, seventy two year old guy being able to
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: turn it around.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: That's a good point, Jared and Rhode Island says, I
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: don't understand the conclusion that Mayo is going to be
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: the de facto head coach of Phil Leaves.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: I'm not familiar with de facto.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with teams that usually fire the head
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: coach and replace him with an underling. Why is there
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: so much confidence that the logical replacement for Bill is
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: Girawed love the show. Thank you guys for being the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: one redeeming quality of the twenty twenty three seasons.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 4: I didn't say it was logical.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 5: Craft's comments last year at the owner meeting was you know,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 5: talking about I mean.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: We think it's kind of what I mean might be
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: a done deal.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: What are they grooming him for?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 1: Then?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 5: Like what was all that, like, you know, reaching out
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 5: to try to keep him here? And I mean, we
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: haven't really seen a noticeable change on the outside so far.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: It seems exactly like it's been for jirob Mayo. But
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 5: there was a lot of talk last offseason. I just
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: think you read what the Crafts have been saying over
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 5: the last couple of years and what they've done to
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: retain Jiraw Mayo, it would seem like they have some
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 5: plans for him. Maybe it's just a fit some coordinator,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 5: which I would probably prefer, but I think, you know,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: I just I think he's a good guy. I think
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 5: he has the right temperament to you know, everyone just
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: assumes the next head coach is going to be the
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 5: one to take you back to the promise land. I
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: don't know if that's necessarily the case. You might just
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 5: need a guy who rights the ship, who starts the draft,
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: some talent who starts to build a new core, and
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 5: then unfortunately, maybe that guy has a little bit of
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 5: a stumble, and then you bring the new guy in
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 5: and then art the pieces are in place, and now
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 5: we're going to the next level.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 7: I also just think with again, like it's easy for
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 7: us to sit here and say just completely wipe out
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 7: the last twenty five years of what's been successful and
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 7: start completely new with a new offense and a new
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 7: like a whole new philosophy, which is probably what this
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 7: team needs to an extent. But I do feel like
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 7: Gid Mayo is kind of like middling it a little
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 7: bit where he is a younger guy, he is maybe
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: a little bit more savvy with the times, but it's
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 7: still got some Belichick Patriot dynasty mystique.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, we should probably note this show because I feel
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 5: like if if when they too, if that's if this
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 5: word to happen, I think you get like Evansting, we
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 5: have our thoughts out there already now and how we
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 5: feel about it.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not ever really a fan of that.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: You don't like receipts?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 4: Snope, Mike's in New York?
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: What's up, Mike?
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 5: CVS receipts over there?
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like you're in a bayo, are you conducting?
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Are you you know a traffic cop? Or what are
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: you doing out there?
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 12: I'm right in New York?
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 5: Oh, oh that's not a buy.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 11: You do you guys think that?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: What's the probability we think it's gonna happen? Pretty good.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 11: Part the reason I asked because that will be one
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 11: year after Brady retired and Crabb bet on Belichick. It
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 11: was a bad bet because Brady played for three three
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 11: more years and won the Super Bowl.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 13: I think it was a bad bet.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 12: What do you guys say?
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: I don't think it was a bad bet. I think
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 4: it was a bad result.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I mean I thanks Mike. I think he's
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 6: absolutely right. You know they bet on Belichick being around
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: longer than Brady and more effective than Brady.
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 6: Don't think it's like I look back at it to
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 6: twenty twenty high sight, I don't think it was a
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 6: dumb move. I think you logically look at a guy
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 6: in his early forties playing quarterback. How many years is
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 6: he going to continue to play at a super Bowl level?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 6: And the coach had so shown no signs of slowing down,
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 6: like they gambled on the coach, and I would say
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 6: that they lost. Yeah, they lost the gamble, but I
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 6: don't think it was a bad one.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 7: Isn't it easier to just replace the quarterback than to
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 7: tear down the entire organization?
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Theoretically, yes, yeah, theoretically yes, you know, whatever, yeah, whatever,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: I know, just whatever.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 4: We always resignation to that side.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Just look at the Tom Brady years with such fondness
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 1: and just wishing most.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: Of us do retired of paying for one person here,
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 7: like you bring up a tray after or something.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: The one thing that all this has shown us is
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 1: the value of Tom Brady.
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 5: You know, and how special that whole run was.
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: I mean his legend only grew as a result of this.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean just how hard it is. I mean
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 5: even just watching other teams right now, you know, trying
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: to get to that level of success.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: It's below bills, unreal.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: Alex, let me ask you this, what did you think
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 6: when Brady left? Like what were your thoughts?
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 20: Devastation one, But I like everyone was like, okay, we
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 20: still have the greatest head coach of all time. And
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 20: I thought that Brady might go win. But I think
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 20: he'll eventually see maybe the grass isn't always greener. It's
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 20: really hard to sustain success, which I think he maybe
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 20: did see after winning the Super Bowl with the box
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 20: and not going right back.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 19: To the super Bowl.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 20: But I still never anticipated. I mean, this season is
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 20: just absolutely inconceivable to me. Going back to me on
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 20: March seventeen, twenty twenty, the day Brady left, if you
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 20: told me we would be here?
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 4: Had the date right?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: If you told me that we would.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 19: And seven like, I don't know. I tried to be
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 19: as hopeful. Yeah, you're right. I tried to be as
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 19: hopeful as I could. All see, there were the last
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 19: couple of weeks.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: There were some listeners to this show that did think
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: we were going to completely fall off the cliff when
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 1: Brady left, And you know, I argue, like, why does
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 1: that have to be the case. We know it's not
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: going to be as good? Well, why do we have
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: to just I was with you terrible?
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 7: But they didn't completely fall off a cliff immediately.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: It didn't right away.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 9: It was.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 20: So crazy to me that we're even having this conversation
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 20: all on really like it seems a general consensus that
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 20: Bill Belichick's going to be gone next year.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 7: I do, like I am obviously very much out on Bill,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 7: but in the in his one defense, I think this
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 7: season probably would have looked a lot like last year,
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 7: if everybody had stayed healthy where it still wouldn't.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 4: Have been good, but they would see that they would
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 4: have been gardner.
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 7: But I'm just saying, like I'm it still wouldn't have
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 7: been good enough, but they probably would have stumbled to
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 7: like seven or eight wins and maybe been in it
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 7: until late December early January.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: If they stayed completely healthy and all the other teams
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 6: got all the injuries that they got, then I would
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: agree with you. But like if they like I'm not saying, sorry,
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: if Aaron Rodgers doesn't get hurt, they'd be one in
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 6: one in nine, right, But I'm not saying completely healthy.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 6: I'm just saying you don't lose your two best players
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 6: on your roster. Like there's a difference between being completely
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 6: healthy and losing that.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: Point.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like you don't have to score as many. I
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 4: just find it hard to believe.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 1: You only had to score eleven last right, really.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 20: Devastating injuries to the defense, but we're seeing defense is
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 20: like really.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: All we have to hang out?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: You know?
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 6: Does would you allow Buffalo to say if we don't
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 6: lose you know, Milano and Trey White, we don't lose
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 6: that game.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: With the Patriots.
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 7: Maybe I don't know. I'm just saying, but I'm sure
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't. I'm just saying so last year, and to
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 7: put you know, Fred here your point. Last year, the
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: defense literally scored points for the offense, right, Like, you
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: cannot rely on that, but I can count on the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: defense making plays to put the offense on short fields
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 7: like that, that that should happen consistently.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 6: I don't think you can rely on turnovers consistently. I
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 6: think they're they're very much an unknown variable. Well, I
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 6: think they vary from year to year. I always look
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 6: at the teams when you go into the playoffs, the
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 6: teams that have had great plus minds, you know, with
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: the turnovers and not just that, but like Evan said,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: the scoring, and I bet against those teams in the playoffs.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 6: I feel like when you do that, and that's how
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 6: you got thirteen and three or whatever. Pall it takes
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: is one game in the playoffs where you don't get
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 6: it when you lose.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: When Paul says he bets against him, he just yes,
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 1: it's metaphor for it.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 7: My point was, like Alex is just saying that you
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 7: can't you couldn't imagine to in eight and either could that.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 6: I couldn't have either because I thought that at the
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 6: very worst, they would just be to think I'm really
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: I am negative and I don't ever think of that.
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 4: But I don't don't you don't hurt of that.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 7: But but you said seven wins was their ceiling, right, Yeah,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 7: And I don't necessarily disagree with that.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: They're not going to get to seven wins.
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 6: But when if everything fell into in other words, if
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: they stayed healthy, everything fell in place, but everybody was
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: hurt close the other teams got hurt, and you didn't like,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 6: maybe you could win seven games.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 4: That's how I felt about this team.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: I don't, but I don't necessarily disagree with that. If
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: they're two and eight, Paul, like there, I thought the
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 7: win four games, that's going to be a lot.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 19: I didn't think the offense could get worse than.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 6: I didn't think that I would. I would that's I
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 6: didn't think the offense could be worse than it was.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 5: And my question is just I think we all kind
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 5: of agreed that, like six, I feel like we said
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 5: a lot. Six six wins feels like the floor for
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: this team. Like he's too good a coach to not
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 5: get them six wins? Why aren't we the six wins
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: this year?
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 6: You know, yeah, I would have said, it's like, see,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 6: I would I know you think I'm probably lying, but
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: I'm not either for it because I think there's some
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 6: teams that they could beat, just like the last couple
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: of games they played, they.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 4: Could have won. That would be a big mistake.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: No, I understand that that's a different argument, But like
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 6: I look at the ten games they've played. If you
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 6: would ask me before, and I do this all the time,
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: I told you the who was the team they played
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 6: before the Saints, the Raiders, the Commanders, and the Colts
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 6: heading into the season, that would have said, you'll go
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 6: two and two in those four games?
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: Right, they went on four.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: However, I would have said the Bills is a loss
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: and the Jets is a loss until Aaron Rodgers got
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: so kind of had them at two and eight ish. Now,
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 6: where it's way different than I thought, is what Alex said.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 6: I didn't think it would look like this. I didn't
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 6: think Mac would look like this. Even though I'm not
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 6: a big believer in Mac, I didn't think he was
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: capable of throwing interceptions like he did on Sunday was
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: I guess that's maybe more Maybe that's we're probably more
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 6: similar than the win.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: It's that time of the week when we got to hurry, Paul.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: What happened last year?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 4: Angry?
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 9: Uh So?
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: Not surprisingly, when trying to make picks in the midst
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 6: of a disco tech it didn't go great for really
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 6: anybody really why uh So, Paul and Fred showed their
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 6: their veteran savvy. You know, they fought through it. They
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: wait for Paul and Fred eight and six, the best
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: of the week. Evan seven and seven, good job, perfectly mediocre,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 6: Mike and Al like six and eight.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 4: That's what the regular games by.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: Horrible.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll get back to you, okay. Uh Paul and
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 4: Fred also seven to five and two. Make the money
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 4: with the with the number Evan six, six and two.
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 4: I'll take it. Alex three, nine and two.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: Give it to me. Give it to me.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 4: You're worse than three and what?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: What?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 10: What?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: One?
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 4: One eleven?
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 9: Two?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 4: Fred?
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 6: My, you know, the records only go back so far
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: because basically the records are only in my head.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 4: As you know, I do not recall a week that bad.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 1: I congratulations from.
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 19: The papers, came to play international so.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 4: Here we are. The standings are as follows. Alex.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: Alex maintains her lead despite a tough commute here. She
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: wasn't able to get as dulled up as she normally
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 6: does when she comes.
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 19: In with her crown, so much more prime maintenance than I.
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: Am ninety six and fifty four for Alex, Paul ninety
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 6: two and fifty eight, uh, Evan eighty nine and sixty
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: one coming back, Fred eighty eight and sixty two, deuce
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: eighty seven and sixty three.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 7: So you know, the battle for third place is pretty
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 7: pretty tough there.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 4: It's pretty pretty.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: Tight to.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 4: With a spread.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 6: Paul seventy five, sixty eight and seven, Alex and Fred
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: seventy two, seventy one and seven, Evan sixty seven, seventy
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: six and seven, and Mike after that one and eleven
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 6: sixty four, seventy nine and seven seven pushes last in
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 6: ten weeks. By the way, Mike, you're gonna start to
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 6: start adding half points to all the spread.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: Its gotta get rid of pushese. You're all right, let's
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: get into it because you're gonna watch football tonight on
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: Prime Video eight fifteen. Good game. The five and four
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: Bengals are at the seven and three Ravens. Little little
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: news the Cincinnati Bengals social media had to delete a
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: tweet that showed Joe Burrow with something on his throwing hand.
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 19: He had a little sling brace or something coming off
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 19: the plan.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 20: I get so frustrated with how everything we do has
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 20: to go through so many approvals. But then I see
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 20: something like that and I'm like, good, that's why we
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 20: get it. I understand, right.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 4: Baltimore by three and a half.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 5: Should I do the George Costanza and just do the
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: opposite of what I think other than this, Well, that
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 5: is information that is useful with with Joe Burrow, and
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 5: it's a tough division battle.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: Doesn't Lamar own the Bengals.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 5: I believe Marlon marlowns the Bengals.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Baltimore.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna correct.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna lay the points. I'll take Baltimore at home.
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 19: I'm also going to take Baltimore at home.
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 20: Especially now I feel reassured when A picks with I
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 20: don't know after last week.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 7: I am also gonna take Baltimore at home. But I
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 7: think it's a three point game. Right, you said three
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 7: and a half.
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna take the Bengals. I guess too. So
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: what does that mean?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 6: He's taking fred three and a half points spread, He's
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: taking the point, taking the hook, the good good, taking
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: the hook.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Cincinnati outright.
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: All right, you're gonna take Cincinnati outright? Yeah?
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: I think they need to bounce back.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: Trader.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I forget the rules for.
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 19: Today.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: Oh that's true.
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna go Ravens both ways here they.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 4: I'm a little worried about that injury that I didn't
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 4: know about.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Sunday at one, the six and three Cowboys are
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: at the one and eight Panthers.
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: Dallas by ten and a half, ten and a half man.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 5: Last week, I laid those points, and that was stupid.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: Took the points.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, I'm gonna take down.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's why he went one and eleven.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 5: Probably I'm gonna lay the points as well.
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 4: I I'm taking Dallas both plays. Yeah, I just don't.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: Dallas is so immature. Tempted to take a points, but
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 4: I can't. I can't do it.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 5: Insult. I guess are so immature. I'm so mature, making
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: fart noises on the field.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 1: Grow up.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 4: I will take Dallas.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 7: I like when I make Alex crack up by singing
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 7: Pops random current.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: You think there's any chance the Panthers could be a destination?
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 4: Yes on my list?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, because of my leper Yeah, I think big pockets,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 6: deep pockets.
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 19: I should say break reporting.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, thank you Savage. I will take the Cowboys.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: I will take the Cowboys as well. One o'clock six
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: and three Steelers are at the six.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: And three Browns Uh Cleveland by one. I believe D
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 4: t r. Will be playing quarterback for.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 5: The brownstr.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: For those of you who don't know, I didn't ye
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: by I mean any good.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: He's a rookie.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: He's a good rookie.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: Man.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 5: gonna take Itsburgh on the road. Somehow they keep finding
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 5: ways to win game. Actually right, God, it's tough, because
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 5: I do think it's got you good d Pittsburgh take
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 5: the upset film. Really second guessing myself on all these
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 5: I'm going to take.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 19: The Steelers too.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 5: That's a coin flip for me, though, careful, don't have
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 5: too many similar picks to me and end up in
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 5: the basement.
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 19: No, we're bouncing back.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm also going to take the Steelers.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 7: I just like them in that spot against a rookie quarterback,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 7: I think that they could take care of business.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 5: Bitiness.
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd probably be a low scoring, tight game the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 6: way the first game was. But I'll I will take
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 6: Pittsburgh as well.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, if Watson was playing, it's a whole
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: different ballgame, and I'd picked the Browns. But I can't
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 1: see Tomlin, someone of his ilk los into a rookie
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 1: quarterback being thrust into the game like the way he is.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to take the Steelers. One o'clock, three
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: and seven Bears are at these seven and two Lions.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: What was it I heard of a college came looking
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: for Dan Campbell to in Texas, A and m Yeah,
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: it came looking Yeah, he said no.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so the Lions are favored by seven and a
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 6: half Lions. But I did find that interesting though, Fred
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 6: I agree.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 5: I will I will take the Lions, and I will do.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: The points.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 19: Lions Lions with the spread.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 5: How did you remember the first Pittsburgh Cleveland game? That's
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: just stuck in my head.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 4: Right, it was a Sunday night game.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like the first one you go to bed
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: after the first series.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know stuff.
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 4: I just I have memory. I don't know.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: Like twenty five years ago, Fred hired me to come
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 6: working for an NFL team, and I thought it might
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: be a good idea to watch the NFL.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 4: I don't know. I thought that was good.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 5: You know, catalog every game that's played and be able
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 5: to recall it at any given moment.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 6: I've told you we have a million times. If it
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 6: had any value whatsoever, it wouldn't be stuck in my head.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: Cleveland value here? Who started for Cleveland that game? Was
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: that at Watson?
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 4: Watson? Yeah, we all, we all have strains. At least
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 4: we had a late fumble costs Cleveland. Cleveland was winning
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 4: our whole game.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: I remember that entire I barely remember the Patriots games.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 4: Okay, well that's bad. I'll take the Lions both ways.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: So Justin Field's back in this game, right, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: I'm still gonna take He's not perfect. I'm gonna take
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 6: Detroit both ways. That's the number seven and a half.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about taking the hook, but I'm not
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 6: going to I'll do it.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I'll take those points. Fearless Lions win, but don't cover.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: One o'clock. The four and five Chargers are at the
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: three and six Packers.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 4: This could be a big week for Fred.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: By the way, there's no Patriots game from automatically to
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: give us a loss. Yeah, let's see here the lack
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: by three at Lombo.
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: It's kind of a tough one. I kind of lost
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 5: track at Green Bay, but I watched a little. Yeah,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 5: I'll watched a little of the Chargers. I'm gonna just
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go quarterback. I'll take the Chargers.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 19: Yeah, Chargers to win, Chargers to cover.
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 7: I am also gonna I guess I'm gonna take I
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 7: don't know. Normally I would take the Packers because of
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 7: the weather and the Lambeau and the l A thing.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 7: But I'm going to take the Chargers. Think they're a
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 7: better team.
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Chargers too. I I like
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 6: the way their offense looked last week. I'm sorry, you
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 6: guys probably don't know. They played Detroit last week and
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 6: they lost forty one thirty eight.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, but I like the way that Herbert.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: Touchdowns Keenan Allen in Austin Eckler. There's a couple of
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: obscure players, but you might want to.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 4: Pick them up for your fans.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 5: I did see some of that game.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 4: Actually I missed that one. Well good, you guys were
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 4: actually in Germany. I'm gonna catch you.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: Some good Herbert QB. Square.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: I was watching Cocaine Bear. Cocaine Bear.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's only one answer here, and that's the Chargers.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: Sunday at one, the two and eight Cardinals are at
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 1: the five and four Texans.
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 4: Imagine the Texans are hosting the Cardinals with a chance
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 4: to go six and four. Big game, Houston five, big game.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Kyler Murray's back, and I think I'm going to
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: take Arizona here, bringing Houston back to earth a little bit.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 4: Is that your hard or your head?
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Neither?
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: It's my apathy.
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 4: Big game for the Tank. Oh, I see what you're saying.
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: I was like, what would the heartbeat anti?
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 8: C J.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 4: Stroud because you don't want them to be good?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: But that makes sense. You're right, there's a window, and my.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 20: Intuition says to pick the Cardinals upset as well.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: But but Deuce is losing and you don't want to
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: be tied.
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 19: To Texans to win and the Cardinals to cover.
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope your intuition is right.
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 7: I'm going to take the as much as I want
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 7: to take the Cardinals for the tank. I am going
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 7: to take the Texans both ways because I think Kyler
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 7: gives gave them a boost last week, but I don't think.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 5: It diminishing yea turns.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I am going to roll the dice and take
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: Houston as well. I think that they show some maturity
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 6: and handle that big win and build off of it.
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 6: This is one of those spots that red flag you know,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 6: a team it's probably not that good yet, and they're
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 6: hosting a team that qute unquote they're supposed to beat.
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna roll the dice.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd love for the Cardinals to pull this off,
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: you know, get that third win, but I can't do it.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: I gotta go with the Texans. Sunday at one, the
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: three and six Titans are at the six and three Jaguars.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: Another big one for the take.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacks by seven mm hmm. Tennessee's nipping at our heels.
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna take I know I'm gonna take jack
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take Jacksonville to win, but I'm gonna take
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 5: those points. I think it'll be close.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Jacksonville, Tennessee.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I think Jacks win, Titans cover.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take Jacksonville both ways, and I think that
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 7: the Titans side Ryan Tannehill ask for his release today.
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: What a baby?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think that one.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'll take Jacksonville both ways too. I think they
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 6: bounce back from their terrible performance against Theiners.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 1: Jaguars a kind of weird this year, So I'm gonna go, uh,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: Titans to cover, but Jaguars to win. Sunday at one,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: the five and five Raiders are at the six and
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: three Dolphins.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: Miami by thirteen and a half.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 5: Oh boy, love, I really, I really want to see
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: the Raiders lose, but I'm gonna take the point. I'll
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 5: take Miami to win, but I'm gonna take those points.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 5: I think the Raiders are showing some fight and they'll
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 5: find a way to maybe keep it a little bit close.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 19: Yeah.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 20: I also regretted giving the favorite a team points when
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 20: these spreads are like this. So I'm gonna pick the
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 20: Dolphins to win the Raiders to cover.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm gonna take the Dolphins to win, Raiders to cover.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 7: It's too big a spread.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna lay the points. I'll take Miami both ways.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 6: Coming off a bye at home, I think the offense
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 6: gets back.
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: Ah, I'm gonna take the Raiders to cover in this game.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: Although thirteen and a half, but it's in the roads.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: It's really ten and a half. So yeah, I will
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: I will definitely take the Raiders to cover. Yeah. Sunday,
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: at one latt of one o'clock game, the two and
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: eight Giants are at the four and six Commanders. Giants
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 1: looking ahead, maybe the toilet the draft.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: Washington by eight and a half.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I just I think the Giants are probably the
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 5: worst team in the league right now, and I'm gonna
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 5: take Washington and I will lay the points.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 19: I hope that same it range true and we play them,
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 19: but I will also take the Commanders.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: Do you I'm gonna take the Commanders, but I think
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 7: that the Giants cover for some reason, because it's division game.
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: In those games are Tommy DeVito, He's still filing for
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: exactly what Evan said. I will take the points, Washington
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 6: will win. I'll take the say ten and a half,
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 6: Paul eight and a half, eight.
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 19: And a half, Tommy living at home.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the commanders both.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 4: Ways, Butcher mac Jones wishes he still lived at home.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: Commander, I'm sorry what commanders both ways say that? Now
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 1: we've moved to four oh five, The four and five
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: Buccaneers are at the six and three forty nine Ers.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: Just a joke, ef. San Francisco by twelve twelve.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 5: That's a lot of points, Jerry. I'm gonna take San Francisco,
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 5: but I'm gonna take those points because I think I
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 5: think Tampa's showed a little bit of fight, a little smunk.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 19: Niners win. I don't know what do they know? Niners cover?
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: What are the shops now?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 9: They?
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 4: What do they know? Fred?
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: They know something.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers both ways. I
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 7: just think they're a wagon me too.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, forty nine ers both ways. I think they had
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: their little mid season hiccup, and I think they're back
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: for twenty five. The four and five Jets are at
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: the five.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 4: And five Bills, Buffalo by seven.
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 12: Wow.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 5: All right, I'm gonna take Buffalo at home, but I'm
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 5: gonna take those points for the Jets. I'm not sure
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 5: how they get them, but divisional game, Buffalo seems off.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 5: They got a new offensive coordinator. I just I think
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 5: it'll be a close game, but I think Buffalo.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 19: Win unless Steph Diggs demands his release in.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 1: The next We can only hope. I'm gonna pick Buffalo.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: Would you.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: Wouldn't.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 7: I will take the Bills, but the Jets play the
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 7: Bills tough. This is one game that Josh Allen can't
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 7: figure out. So I'm gonna take the points for the Jets.
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, and I'm really surprised that Mike didn't
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 6: say the Jets own.
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that Buffalo. They do own Buffalo. So I'll take.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: Buffalo to win the game. But the way they're playing,
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 6: I'm not laying a touchdown anybody. I'll take the jetsformation
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 6: took the points. You you got it picked the same.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: Way I did.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Wrong new OC for the Bills.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: Joe Brady just talked, Yeah, but the jelly lighting for
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: Bills dot com.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: Jets play them, Josh Allen game is McDermott's job is
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 1: very shaky. Yeah, that's why that getting redder and redder,
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 1: just like his face.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: Will take the Bills, but not to cover. I will
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 1: take the Jets to win by less than what that
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: point spread is. So what do you happen?
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 4: Are there only three four o'clock games?
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: Is that what you have?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 5: One?
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: Two, three? That's correct?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: Thanks?
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a terrible way to make a bad red
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: zone for a bye week.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, that's dirty, San Francampa's not.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 4: Oh it's bad. Uh.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: The final four to twenty five game is the six
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: and three Seahawks at the three and six ron.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, which one owns?
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: Which?
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 4: Because there is a.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, somebody owns somebody.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 4: Well, the Rams won at Seattle in Week one.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 5: Can't help them, I can't help I think DK Metcalf
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 5: caught that big third down pass across the middle that
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 5: you know he's shuck.
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 4: Thet tackle was a really anoid scheme.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: You know what hurt? Red zone has just switched off
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: from the Buccaneers game and they went to this one.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 4: And what what what hurt me is we played it
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: for twenty five that week too?
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: So how about these being paid to our game?
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 5: It's like, what was this spread?
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: One?
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: Seattle by one one?
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 5: I'm going Seattle, Yeah, Seattle.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 19: If Seattle lost at home the first meeting.
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 20: I think they avenge themselves, Seattle Avenge Avengers.
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with the I'm gonna go with the
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 7: Seahawks too. I just think they're a better team.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know why. That's all I got.
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're probably right, but I have this abnormal fixation
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 6: that Fred makes fun of me about with Matthew Staffords.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: Who I'll take the Rams?
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Is he playing?
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 4: I think so? With one arm?
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 5: Yeahs.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 4: These things are just limiting.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: Seahawks are very quiet six and three.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 4: Just you know, I just you don't hear a lot
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 4: about I gotta give Pete Carroll credit.
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: I mean we always talk about Tomlin. Somehow he finds
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 6: a way to win these games and keeps them relevant.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: I think Seattle kind of stinks and and they just
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: keep winning games just like that, just like Tomlin.
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Seahawks both ways. They cover
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: the one point? Why is there ever a one point?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 19: What's the point?
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the point?
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 5: That could be friends for gambling book names.
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: What's the point point?
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 4: What's the deal with one point? What's the point?
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: You got a better game? You should have more than
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: a point let's see a twenty on and be sure. Uh,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: the six and four Vikings are visiting the four and
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: five Broncos.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 4: Of course, Denver by two and a half.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: It just like their tenth home.
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 4: I know that's every year, every year, every year they
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 4: just want at Buffalo.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: The other night they did.
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take Denver at home. I
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 5: just they're they're tough there no matter what.
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: So okay, I.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 19: Don't want to, but I'll also take Denver at home.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: It's a tough one.
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm gonna take Denver as well. I think
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 7: Denver I don't think they're good, but I think that
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 7: Russell Wilson is at least playing okay, last couple of weeks.
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 4: Nice, and I think their defense is play.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: I mean, they were absolutely embarrassed obviously the first few
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 6: weeks of the season, but they've played pretty well for
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 6: a month. I keep waiting for this like Minnesota thing,
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: like come on, they can't just keep winning a guy
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 6: who's been there for twenty minutes.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 9: But they do.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 4: But I'm gonna pick against him again. I'll take the Broncos.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton's bought himself another year.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, when you give up that much, I
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 4: thank you. Yeah, I don't think you don't want to.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 1: Kind of kidding, but yeah, I'm gonna take the Broncos
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 1: to win this game at home where else? Monday night,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: eight fifteen.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: Fred on Christmas Eve. Oh big surprise. We're sitting here in.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 1: Denver making us go to Denver eight fifteen, ESPN, ABC,
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: ESPN two, ESPN plus, ESPN Deportes.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 5: Yes, Taylor Swift for the NFL.
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: This is a actually eighty one Eagles at the seven
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: and two at Taylor.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: Apparently the parents are meeting.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 5: She's coming in from Rio. Introduce you to the parents
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 5: taking the private plane right into Kansas City from Rio.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 4: After she is did you ever have any bad experiences
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 4: meeting the parents for the first time.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 5: It's only happened a couple of times A little bit yeah, actually, yeah, yeah,
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 5: there was something going on with the Dad's.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 4: A little bit a little late in the show to
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 4: get into this, delve into this.
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 5: I also met like I've also met one of the dads.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: And then dad was like and I was like, oh,
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 5: nice to meet you, and he goes, yeah, I bet
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 5: it is, like like I said, something like like as
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 5: if there.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Was something that that had like that I shouldn't have
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: liked meeting. I don't know.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 7: I heard about you do, so I mean, why would
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 7: the dad be happy to meet you? Let's be honest.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm just being a problem to date my
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 4: daughter over last night.
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 1: The problem is when he was fifteen, he looked exactly like.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 4: How older.
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 6: Anyway, Kansas City is favored by three, and this is
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 6: did they do something specific this year trying to give
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 6: the Monday night games a few more games.
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 5: Like this this one?
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 6: I don't know, as usually this would the Sunday night game,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 6: right and the Minnesota Denver would be the Monday nighter.
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe ESPN bitched and they said.
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 6: Enough because this is a good matchup Philly Kansas City,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 6: and everybody would have thought it was a good matchup,
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 6: you know back in May when they.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 4: Three Chiefs by three.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna take get three.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: So it's a push.
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the Eagles. I'm gonna take the Eagles.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 5: I think they just they got a little more. They're
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: playing better. Love Kansas City. I think they're a really
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 5: good team. But I think Philly has just got a
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 5: couple more pieces.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 19: Right now, I'm actually taking the Eagles to Travis Kelcey
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 19: on the plane back and forth South America.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 5: He's not locked in.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 4: She's running to him like she's.
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 1: Is that the most performative? Was that the most performative
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: thing you've ever seen? She just wrapped herself around him.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 19: Chiefs engaged in like next year.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: I think I can't wait for the album when he
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 1: breaks up with her, I know, but I can't.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 5: Wait for the Chiefs fans who are going to like
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: like hate her forever.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: You know, like that's gonna start.
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  Speaker 7: That's what's happened to your girl with job, Yeah, Hale Steinfeld,
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  Speaker 7: they really are.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: It's happening.
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  Speaker 5: I know what we saw it with Gazelle. The same thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And just for the record, she like if she ran
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: to me, it would give me.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 5: The instantly, like like, be an adult, your dog ran
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 5: to you and jumped on you.
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  Speaker 4: He's a dog. It's different. I want to have that
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: run to me. I know, run, She's only months away
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  Speaker 4: from me.
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  Speaker 1: Dogs can embrace those. Women can't be an adult.
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  Speaker 6: Sixteen adult?
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  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: I it was like just like I came back from war.
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  Speaker 4: It was like one of those surprises. There's no way
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: that she didn't know he was there.
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: She was singing, like putting his name in the song, right,
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 1: so performative song.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 5: A guy from the Chiefs.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah if I was.
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  Speaker 7: If I was, I'd be like, I'm out, yeah see goodbye.
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  Speaker 19: Yeah, he has like billions of reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Be good, like he's got his own right after the
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 1: swift money.
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  Speaker 5: If I was on the Eagles and we beat him
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 5: and they were talking that karma is a bitch, and
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 5: then I just walked away.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 4: You know, here's your did you take anybody?
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 7: You guys are Yeah, I can take the Eagles. I
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 7: just think I I didn't know the Chiefs. The Patriots
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 7: have had years like this too, where they're good.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: But not as good as they normally.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: But just like the record, you can tell by the
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 7: eye test that there's just something missing.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: I would agree with that.
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 6: However, I'm still going to take Kansas City. Coming off
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 6: the buye at home big game, everybody's focused. Andy read
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 6: off a bye is like undefeated. That's a good and
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 6: you know tell.
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 1: Me and I agree with Evan about the Eagles like
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: they're eight and one, but it doesn't seem that way.
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 4: Like he was talking about the Chiefs. I think they're
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: not about the.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, you're still I mean the Eagles are slow start.
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 5: I think the Eagles are starting to find there their mojos.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Eagles. But the chief defense
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: is playing really well. I think you know.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: That's why McDuffie.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm switching. I'm going with the Chiefs.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: I just talk myself into it.
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, now I have cross ups.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Chiefs defense bottles up hurts, and this.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 4: Is when my integrity is called into question. What did
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 4: you scribble out there?
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 19: You should have someone notarize it.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why it's chalk. You have an a racer.
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 1: You can erase chalk. You know.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 7: Oh, it's not gonna apparently that No one knows what
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 7: that means. No, what's chalk.
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: Chalk is when something is gonna happen, you believe it's
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's chalk. That's what I learned from Dan Lipschat.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 5: Isn't you a chalk talk guy?
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 4: I am a chalk talk guy.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it for this show. We actually didn't
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: have to hurry because we don't have catch twenty two
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: breathing down our neck.
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 7: That was and we also don't have to pick the
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 7: Patriots game.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 4: It's not just that that was recorded before.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: So if you want to catch catch two after three,
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 1: you can do that next week. We'll be back regular
• 1:59:17
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• 1:59:22
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• 1:59:25
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