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Episode 236: Sateda (SGA 3.04) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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Get into Gate episode two hundred and thirty six. Back in the Pegasus Galaxy.
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My name is Mitch, joining me the Gibsons, Brendan, Hello there,
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and Maddie Hello, Satata Satita Satita. Okay, I'm the first time
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here and just I mean they said it in the episode. Sure, well,
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did you guys when when we rocked up? Sure? Did you know
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what I'm saying? Did you hear me like that was missing the name of
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Adam? Believe you? Yeah? No, well never I do believe.
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I don't care. But did you hit Just before we hit record? I
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I started chuckling to myself. I went to say something. I'm like,
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I'll save it because as I sat down on the chair about to hit record,
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I'm like, oh, yeah, I didn't watch the second half of
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this episode. Oh I was watching it today? Was it? Three?
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Star is furious right now, he's just switched off. He's gone to the
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next episode. In fairness, I didn't start the episode and went, yeah,
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I watched it, but then have proceeded to admit that I didn't pay
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attention to it. I'm fline out admitting that I was at my kid's swimming
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lessons and I was just watching it on my phone. Watched the first twenty
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minutes or so, so I've seen half the episode. And then I thought,
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that's right, I'm gonna you know, my night tonight. Right.
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I had to go and do a thing for work, and then I was
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going to get here with like half an hour spare because of and then work
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got delayed and I got hit ten minutes late. So well, let's do
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this synopsis and all that stuff, and then we're gonna do something unprecedented.
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We're gonna do a live reaction, Brandon, if you can bring it up
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on your phone. I think we need to show Mitch just that. You
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know the scene I'm talking about in the alleyway and the Yeah, yeah,
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we're gonna do a live reaction. Okay, yeah, I can do that.
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We're just gonna watch it, guys, and then we'll get me right
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back. Okay, yeah, all right, so punch out the old Okay.
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After a group of people capture Ronan and give him to the Wraith,
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he becomes a Runner again, but this time he's left on his home planet
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Setita, where the Stargate has been disabled. When you say that it was
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written by sorry, written by Robert C. Cooper directed by by Robert C.
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Cooper. We're gonna double robertson Cooper Boys. Hello, I'm Robert Cooper,
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an executive producer, a co creator, a writer, director. What
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else did they do? But enough about me? Again? Something about you?
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Yeah, he brought that, he brought it back, but enough about
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me? Oh my god. There was a cut in there saying it that
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is that is just a little snippet of the gold that I have for you
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guys for this episode. Who does he do it with? Who else?
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Is that some nobody? He's a friend of his from that he's known for
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one hundred years. That was like the director of photography or something like that
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on the episode. I don't know the real director. Yeah. Well,
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I mean he just basically spent the entire of saying, well, this is
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the reason you're really talented, Robert is because of this, and blah blah
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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. How much would he actually love if
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he could be there himself as a director speaking with himself as a writer about
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the episode. Means, if he could bar himself from last week and just
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be talking to himself, WHI was gonna say the audio commentary, Robert Cooper
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to this guy is Michael to doctor Beckett. Basically like this guy just wanted
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to suck Roberts dick so hard. He wants a job, obviously wants some
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jobs. He doesn't get paid for the for the audio commentary, just the
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ad work. Yeah. Does he explain how the Wraith exploded and was standing
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right next to him running away from the bomb and then there's there's an external
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shot of the whole building exploding and then he just has a shod in his
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leg. No, but he does. He does talk about it. He
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does literally what happens. He does talk about how he thinks that really appreciated
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this episode because it got them, letting them do some quote unquote serious acting.
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No, he survived that with just a cut. Hasn't escaped yet.
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No, that's fire escaping out the door and every window. Explain that Cooper
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and scene an idiot twenty six minutes. Cool thing, cool thing. So
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this episode was a costume he s teat it was like a nineteen eighties action
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movie with the kinky leather play arm cuffs. That was like the shoulder pads,
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I like the weapons. Oh yeah, that was the something got later
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on, but like when when you see him in the episode, he's just
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got like the the leather from the from the wrists to halfway up his bicep,
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which is obviously hiding the the elbow pads for all the stunt work that's
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going on. But yeah, and then the obviously gets the sett and armor
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later on that he pulls off the dead body and just has just just shoulder
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to half bicep exposed. And j Kkeb's not gonna like me either. I
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was phone watching a lot during this episode because it's so poorly written. You
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can't blame me. It's funny. I'll have to reach. I really enjoy
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this episode. It's just like a fun popcorn action I actually only like the
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last twenty minutes believe it. Yeah, but yeah, oh read you.
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Some reviews reminded me b there scathing and also incredibly excellent. Actually yeah,
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it's just either it's either ten stars or one star. Great. Yeah,
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I'll give the first three quarters one star. And the well at the part
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where he goes he says to Shepherd leave when Shepherd comes to rescue them,
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and he's like what, and then there's like twenty one Wraith downstairs and he
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goes and fix them all up. Yeah, it's it's amazing. No,
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my, my, you don't see enough of it with that. I do
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love the scene, and they use it for the opening credits moving forward,
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where Ronan's walking down the hallway and there's just the explosion behind that creates this
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silhouette. But my favorite scene in this whole episode is actually earlier on when
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they're being held captive on the planet where he'd where Roan had been to before,
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and he has the knife up against the guy's throat and then like you
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think we're not going to and then he throws that guy away and holds the
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knife up to his own throat and has that a mate Like, that's some
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it's just some intense acting. Probably I've seen him, Yeah, yeah,
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I think. I think that monologue he's given there, it wasn't a great
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monologue, but his commitment to it and the intensity I believed every single word
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he was saying, and that he would actually just get the monologue jam that
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knife into his throat. It was that moment where, because that was still
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very early on, like it was the setting ten minutes, the setting up
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of any episode. Really, they find some trouble on a different planet.
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But that moment I was like, oh, hang on, is this episode
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four. That's what money means when he says every episode four is a Rona
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thing. He was introduced episode four last season. This one's a rone Oh
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well, yeah, there's gonna be a Ronan episode. I did misspeak.
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So it's last season. It was episode three, and I'm not gonna watch
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it. This season is episode four, then episodes and then seasons four and
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five. It's backed episode three. Right, Let's pause for fifteen minutes and
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let Mitch watch the end of this. It's just still good, just for
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just from the part I think where he's like, let's go kill some ree
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Yeah. Beckett's like yeah, even though last week Beker was like, oh
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no, they're human. I'll show him the grenade over the shoulder. Yeah,
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the thirsty tailor. That's like my favorite tailor scene of all time,
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which I only just discovered that today, which is after the thing. So
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maybe I was already hard from Roanan throwing the grenade over his shoulder and then
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you get titsm gie there and you're like, oh wow, still hard,
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Like didn't lose it. We watched didn't lose it. We watched a very
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different episode. All right, did you watch that? We're going to watch
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We're gonna watch this twenty two minutes. Man, this is like two minutes
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after I would have stopped her. Oh slow mo grenade over the back.
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Shit, yeah, let's do it. Wait for it ten hard. Yeah.
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They're acting like two friends that have decided to start dating and are just
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trying to find that spark, even though they absolutely know that it's not there.
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It's really that's yeah, brutal, not feeding on her extra christy,
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yeah, extra crispy. Oh that was fun. The tally where whatever whatever
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Taylor said she got, Shepherd was like, Taylor got eight, I got
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nine, Rodan got the rest. Yeah, because it was kind of like
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Lego ass and Gimli. Yeah to roll over there, it's all that counts
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as one. And then because yeah, Shepherd said I got six, how
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many did you get? And she goes, I got eight, and he's
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like, oh, Rodney, I got nine, eight, I got nine
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the rest twelve, which's unusual because I don't really remember him doing that before.
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Yeah. But then, yeah, the thing I have is with Beckett,
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it's like, well, two episodes goes like oh eighth deserve to land
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because they're a human and now he's blowing them up. Here's some here's some
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little presents for you, Brannan. The audio commentary on this was absolutely delightful.
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A little bit of trigger about this episode. I turned in the script
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and uh, I remember Brad right coming to me, and you know,
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he, even though we both co created, you know, the series and
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we're both executive producers, runs Atlantis on a day to day. I was
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running as I knew that I was going to tax his overall budget by doing
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such a big episode, and and I figured he would be like, are
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you crazy. We can't afford to do this, It'll put us in a
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huge hole at the beginning of the season. And in fact, he came
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in and he said, I love the script. I think it's a very
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important story for the team, and we should try and do all of it
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and do the best you can as a director and take your producer hat off
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and put your director hat on. That was great. It was very encouraging
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and support of Brad and I did and spent more money than we had ever
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spent on an episode. Now, some of the trivia I've read says,
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excluding the pilots, so you can potentially exclude Rising and Children of the Gods.
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But aside from those, this episode costs more money to make than any
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other Heroes, more than Here Is Lost City costs work any of those episodes
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does full circle full circle where they can blow up the freaking Aberdose pyramid.
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This episode costs more money than any other episode of stargeting. There's lots and
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lots of holes in it, especially in that first to thirty minutes, but
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that last ten really made up for it with all that, and it wasn't
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like, because you can have action movies cool, but you have to have
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it. I kind of liked that he was killing them off camera and down
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the biggest plot hole. I really enjoy this episode. It's just like it's
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a fun popcorn action movie and just Ronan being bad us. It's you know,
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it's Carl Drogo before he was Carl Drogo. The one the one plot
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hole for me is that Rodney taps into the Runner tracker and they detect seven
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signals. Yeah right, they never do anything with that. Hey, if
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this runners pretty cool, maybe we should get some more or just be good
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human beings and save these people who are being hunted by the Rake or that
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was play over their one line where McKay goes, well, we don't even
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know, we don't know what these tracking signals are. You tapped into the
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runner signal you found Ronan on Seteita, what is it going to be?
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Three runners? And then his favorite pets? Like what else? What else
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do you think he's putting tracking sign in youth bibles? Yeah? And at
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no point do they think, oh, I wis should we say these people
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will be maybe we could have a whole team of runners that could just wreck
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shop. Yeah, that's so true. And and it's not like they would
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tag anything that's not of interest to them, right, So it's kind of
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like, even if it's not a runner, something of some of interest,
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it's kind of like Colonel O'Neill adding those ancient gates, it's going to be
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something different correct or something of interest. Yeah, and they don't do anything
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about it. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, massive loopool even if something
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they investigated down the track. But as as as we've all said, obviously
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Cooper answers to nobody, No, you're right, always said that stylistically,
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I mean everybody sort of I think felt I got to do things that other
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people maybe didn't feel the freedom or liberty to do. Because I'm also the
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executive producer, I really only have myself to answer to, and as making
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mistakes or not or going outside the normal box of how we shoot an episode,
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I know the crew was kind of like, hey, wait at we
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don't usually do this? Are we allowed to do this? Is this?
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Is this a stark in Atlantis? Is this right? It felt like,
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you know, Robert, it felt like a feature film. People would tell
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Satita's stories of that there were veterans of a battle and I mean physically it
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was the hardest thing I've ever done. They then compared it to what's that?
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What's that war movie with the dude from Superman Deliverance? What is which
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Superman? Superman's dad? What's his name? They then compared Robot coppied best,
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like seriously and then I got one more for you here, hang on
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before we play that. Yeah, we just like seriously, say what the
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was he saying that? Like? Can we talk about that for a second
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because I have a real issue. It's almost like a comedy skit. It's
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like that plan That's a Saturday Night Live skit. Yeah, there's a podcast
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with two comedians called Pussies, and they're like woke men. Oh yeah,
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well this podcast for women about women by men. To me, this is
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between two ferns. But they're taking himself serious. Yeah exactly, I just
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want I was already laughing at something he'd already said, yes, and I
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just love that. Yeah. Well, you know, we don't usually do
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this? Are we allowed to do this? Is this? Is this a
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star Atlantis? Is this? Is this even a shell? Robert? This
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is like, this is so amazing. I don't even think I'm incredible because
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because you see, Robert is normally the show runner of SG one and Brad's
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the show runner for for Atlantis, so they don't normally do this kind of
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stuff. Right now, Robert's going to come over and spend all the budget
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and make it a good show. Oh quit, dude, we have like
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five more grabs. You know. I actually ended up. I don't know
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if I ever told you this. A couple of weeks after we finished shooting,
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I had lost my hearing in one ear. For still managed to do
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the number of explosions and the number of explosions that we had. It was
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it was actually quite frightening. I was phone, wasn't I was frightened,
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but I didn't let anyone see it. Yeah, they're like, Robert,
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aren't you scared? I was, but I said no, everybody else all
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of it. Are you scared? The the armory and all the safety people
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said you need to put on headphones or ear plugs with all these explosions,
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he said, and I said, no, I'm the director. I don't
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do that. But we don't do that. In s G one, director
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Robert Wood executive producer wouldn't direct director and execut produced Robert Cooper wouldn't, but
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noble leader Robert C. Cooper would press play, press play. The other
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thing is it's like the cast and crew going, you said that we can't
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do this until you come on set, and then of course you can.
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Yeah. The guy who you were allowed, the guy who directed Camelot,
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Oh, sorry, Crusade, And then he comes in there went, we
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can't do this. It's like, we don't usually do this. And then
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he comes to get the crew, like we don't usually do this. Yeah,
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Like this is you're amazing, so talented that you have your talent.
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Don't you see that I'm wearing two hats to cover my bald spot and hide
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my hoble phones. Right, it was. It was actually quite frightening.
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I was. I was on the phone and couldn't figure out where my phone
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wasn't working, and then switched ears and said, well, wait a minute,
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this is not my phone, it's my air. All the explosions are
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going off and you're standing there, everyone's ducking and with headphones on. Robert
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with no headphones on. Well, you know, I felt a certain hero.
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I think people felt like I was trying to be the noble leader.
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It's like Zach Allifanakis, except not except he serious. He's serious, he
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with all, with all heart and genuineness, just called himself, didn't say
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that he was to say. He didn't say he was the noble and he
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said he he felt like the crew felt that he was being the noble leader
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by not wearing headphones during explosion. Wait, look at this dunk were in
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head Did you tell him to hear? But yeah, he goes not don't
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need it? Okay, his mate there, who's in a blow up.
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He's an ego. Yeah. All the rest of the crew were like running
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and ducking and diving and hiding, and Robert standing there without the headphones like
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Robert with honey. Ronan was the personification of that silhouette moment. That's what
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Robert was doing. But standing still, that's really hot would at one point,
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I don't think I felt feel hot. I don't think I put it
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in there. But at one point he goes like you could tell I was
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like the kid that never got played with at school. So I had I
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had all the toys in the sandpit. We're still starting, We're only halfway
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through this GRAB. I was still getting through this grab right, well,
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grab just lose now we resume back to the Noble Leader Grab five Part three.
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In those situations, but I was just so caught up with it.
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I was having so much fun. I mean, I think I think people
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recognized that I was a kid in a candy store, that I was running
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around probably having the most fun I've ever had in my entire life. And
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I feel as though that that spirit was infectious. I mean, whether the
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crew is normally like that or not, or whether they just respond to being
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put in difficult situations and enjoy the challenge. I mean, I think to
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a certain extent, maybe what a day to day basis the crew can get
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bored being down over and over again, and this was something different. I
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mean, it was big and it was a challenge, but it was also
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something a little different. Oh my god, it's amazing how he thinks people
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think of him now constantly. Let me blow your mind. Let me blow
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your mind. Everything that you've just heard in all of those grabs, that's
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all contained within the first eight minutes of the commentary. I've still got three
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more grabs gone. It's not even possible, Like I seen to be serious.
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He is can't be serious. He is a four foot man, eight
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foot full of shit. Like, what the hell? It's just at the
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end there, he's like basically said, look, people get bored on this
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show, and occasionally I have to selflessly come in and just save the day
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and just write an exciting episode. And like people aren't They're like, I
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don't care whether you're Delaase or would. People aren't capable of directing what the
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ship that I am writing, So I have to come in and direct my
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vision. He spent the first minute saying, I'm the co creator and writer
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of this show. Yeah, then he sang enough about me. The crew
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were getting bored until he comes in and writes a different episod. Bro,
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They've been making everything you've been you've been asking them for for the last ten
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years. Water clown and absolute clown. Listen to this cinema very T if
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I can for a moment back to my film school days. I'm not I
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don't want to sound too pretentious. Sorry, so you don't want to say
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two pretentious, but you start that with cinema very t. That might be
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another grab water. My neck hurts. Oh. It was just honestly intense
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and cringe. It was one of the hardest commentaries to joke. That sounds
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like the most fun one you could have possibly know. It's great because he
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yeah, I've cut out and and the other dick just giving him a full
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becket. Well, mister mccuaif just jacket off, let's just knock him out.
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Let's just let's just don't believe it. There's a couple of long ones.
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He will see how we go. Yes, we had a little bit
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of an incident on set where me, being somewhat non traditional in my thinking,
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decided he's a maverick. He is asick, he's a man of he's
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a man he's been to film school and directed one episode of Stargate SG one,
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we say in film school, yeah, particular scene and rather than traditional
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coverage, essentially sorry, twelve seconds and he's a traditional twice four masters and
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hope that that all cut together. Typically I I essentially I crossed the line
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in terms of traditionals. We don't replay it. He's actually exciting, hey,
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filmmaking. And and Brenton literally and figuratively, yeah, And and Brenton
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said, you can't do that. You have to cover it from over here.
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And Nathaniel sort of quietly standing off to the side, you know,
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muttered, well, you know, Stanley Kubrick did it in full metal jacket.
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And Breton went storming off to the monitors. Well, you know you're
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not Stanley Kubrick, and this is your full metal jacket. And you know,
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it was funny because I think when I finally moved around to the other
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side and shot the coverage through the door, the Woody Allen coverage, as
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I called it him some wood Woody Allen and Danley was just walking in and
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out and no pants. You were you were like, oh, I get
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it. I think this will work. Now. It makes sense makes sense,
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Robert, It makes sense. Wow, full metal jacket. He reckons,
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this is full metal jacket. There was metal and a jacket. Yeah,
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a metal jack meets a Woody Allen film all the time. Oh,
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then let's just jump over to Hey, I need a break. Just let's
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just jump over to im IMDb dot com. Oh shit. Four out of
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ten weakest episodes so far in the series. This episode is boring and his
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only purpose seems to glorify the silly character ronandex come down. Lots of shooting
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and silly lines, mostly for ronandecks. Next one. Five out of ten
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for the meatheads. When when comparing this episode to the next episode, Progeny,
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it fails miserably. In fact, they don't even look like the same
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show because obviously Roberts and Maverick. Yeah, I mean you wouldn't know.
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But the crew were like, how does he do it? Yeah? The
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crew were like, dude, can you do this? Can you do this?
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Every week? Daddy? That was just so happy for him to be
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there this episode. He means when he says the word cinema, So this
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is cinema. Very take obviously, this is what it means to be with
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the genius. This is what I'm feeling. This episode focuses on Ronan.
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Unfortunately, since the character Ronan is a caveman meathead, it can't do anything
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but be mindless action. Some like that to each his own. Me not
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so much. There is a reason. There is a reason Rodney called Ronan
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a caveman, and in this ridiculous, mind numbing episode it is in full
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display. I have no problem understanding it needed. It is needed for the
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Ronan worshipers. I may not be one of them, but I know they're
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out there, although some say differently. Sadly, we didn't learn anything new.
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Ronan had a wife, so what does that change? Nothing due just
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an excuse to have an action episode, and a poor one at that.
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I'm so glad Ronan's wife is dead. She was a dumb bitch. She
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could have got off the planet. And she's like, no, I need
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to go to the hospital, and he's like, dude, there is like
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at the hospital, there will be no hospital. Yeah, you don't even
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understand what this. I've actually learned history. I don't know if I let
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women do school in Setita only well. I think she was a doctor or
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a nurse or something. She was some kind of you know, medical you
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know what I mean though, like how she gets a pass, you can
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live and I'll live also because I know where to hide. Yeah, he's
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also like, I got you on an escape ship and it's like, well,
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the escape ship's going to need skilled people keep this. But she's alive.
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He's like, he's you can take care of you. You're a doctor.
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You could be totally on that. Yeah. I do like the idea
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that he's like if I get you, if if I escape with you and
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I get you off this planet, I will know that I've succeeded because because
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I got whereas She's like, if we get away from here, I will
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only think of the people that I left to die. So I actually I
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do like that different but I don't get it. But that's like when like
25:52
when he comes in the second time, see I told you, so let's
25:55
go, and she's like, what about this girl? What about every well
25:57
adopt her, let's go. Yeah, like what about that like throws on
26:00
his Shoulder's like, let's let's go all these other people. I can't carry
26:04
everybody. I'm very strong, but not that strong. What did he do
26:07
with that little girl? Once his girlfriend got he just like down from one
26:14
I'll be back in guaranteed her all. I've just tossed her like I just
26:19
didn't even think about it. It wasn't even like this bitch. It was
26:23
just like, why am I carrying this thing? Yeah, and just literal,
26:27
literal dead weight. Yeah, maybe that little girl saved his life.
26:34
Shield got all the debris shrapnel. Yeah, that's why he only got trapped
26:41
on the leg because he went, Yeah, he didn't have anyone to use
26:44
as the human shield. But yeah, he gets shrapnel in his leg.
26:48
He's pulling it out and then against the I think that that Wraith, it
26:53
seemed to me like he was trying to make him a king Wraith or something
26:56
weird, because he was in charge of an entire height in the order coming
27:00
to he references. Maybe it was something in Rising or maybe in the the
27:03
end of last season where they say not all hives have queens like they're and
27:10
yeah, so the subtext was, oh, this is a hive without a
27:15
without a queen, and he's the head hon show. Interestingly, that actor,
27:19
maybe he's like a runner guy. Yeah, he as enjoys the hunting.
27:23
He enjoys hunting the Runners and stuff like that. That actor that played
27:27
the big you know, Uber Wraith is actually the guy who played the Cold
27:32
Warrior. He's the guy in all the Black Dan Payne who does a lot
27:37
of that. He was also the the Ashrak in season six with the invisible
27:41
Ashrak on the other side or wherever it was. Yeah, whenever they need
27:45
a big guy like that, yeah, they get in Dan Payne. He
27:48
did a lot of stunts and all that kind of stuff on the show as
27:49
well. I actually feel like it's kind of out there reference, but he
27:53
looks like a jew Lock from the Ewoks saw those cartoons or them movie,
28:00
kind of like weird looking jew Lock. Yeah. They were the bad guys
28:06
in the Okay. I as a kid, I always thought that e works
28:11
were just baby wookies. Well yeah, totally little pig nose. They're actually
28:18
Via Kong Jesus Christ. No, no, well that's that's true. Yeah
28:25
in America is the Empire. Yeah that was I mean the whole rebels and
28:29
yeah, rebels as well, the rebels and the Empire. Yeah, like
28:33
that was his thing for that war. And he managed to hire some midgets.
28:37
That's great. Yeah, Yeah, of course he's forward thinking, is
28:41
you know, thinking about I mean they're so woke in Disney. They can't
28:45
even do seven and Snow White and seven D Walls without They couldn't even hire
28:48
little people. Oh look, if only they if only they had Robert C.
28:52
Cooper, just so they could do some really serious acting. Oh no,
28:56
oh no. So Tita is a bit of a sequel to an episode
29:02
I wrote last year called Runner that introduced Jason Momoas you know, I really
29:08
wanted to expand on that character, tell us a little bit about his backstory
29:15
and the world he came from, and give Jason a chance to do a
29:18
little more serious acting. It's not going to be anything for hospitals, Wayna,
29:26
just giving Jason Momos, I mean you can't. Some of the lines
29:30
was corny as like even that said in those reviews those guys don't like action,
29:36
which is fine. I love Ronan and I love was one of the
29:38
best characters in Stargate history, and and he just killed it. I don't
29:45
think it was the writing. I think it was just it's Jason. Yeah.
29:48
You could give a lot of those lines to another actor and they would
29:52
have fallen even more flat than Like I said that before. If you kill
29:56
him before I do, I'll kill you. Oh yeah, okay, but
30:00
what if he kills you that was my Joe Flanagan, then you kill him.
30:04
I mean, that's just some fantastic writing right there. That's that's brave
30:07
heart. If it sounded like an al Capone, if we're saying it sounds
30:15
like it starts to look like an eighties action film, that line sounds like
30:18
it's out of an Expendables film. Yeah, yeah, definitely wasn't film Metal
30:23
Jacket like yea out. There were a couple of things I did like though.
30:32
I mean, I like the episode in general. Robert Sea Cooper Controversy
30:34
noted Robert Sia Cooper. I loved the Wall of Mist the video was playing
30:42
screen, Yeah, because it's like I went, I went to Disneyland last
30:45
year. They kind of do that. Now. There's a whole show called
30:48
World of Color, and it's like you go to California Adventure and there's just
30:52
all these massive fountains like shooting up, you know, water, like three
30:56
stories high and then projecting like Disney movies on it, and they're doing it
31:00
to music and sound and it's all this like moving water and all that kind
31:03
of stuff, and it's really fucking cool. So Yeah, I really liked
31:06
that. And then the little mitchwe get this reference. But the little balls
31:10
that were flying around sort of filming everything I saw, some of that kind
31:12
of remind well, know that they kind of remind me of like a Keno
31:17
from a universe. Yes, so I wonder if this was kind of the
31:21
the idea of that or in universe. In the universe, you can be
31:23
like, oh, well, if Keno's are an ancient thing, and then
31:26
the Wraith know about the ancients, maybe they you know, they've used Keno
31:30
technology to make those little ball things. The one thing that I will never
31:34
ever ever accept is that moment where the long haired Wraith beams down and he's
31:41
wearing those fucking goggles for no reason, because the scene after that is they
31:51
do the predator ripoff where it is the whole and that's a cool fight with
31:55
Ronan a predator vision. But when the Raith gets to the doorway of the
31:59
dark room, he takes the fucking goggles off, so he literally didn't use
32:04
them. He beamed down with the goggles, walks to a room, took
32:07
the goggles off, looked at the clear knockoff of an ancient life science detector.
32:13
Attached to his arm then walked in and then you saw his eyes glow
32:17
and that's when he had the predator vision fight with Ronan. Oh really yeah,
32:22
so the goggle I had to go back and watch it again, Yes,
32:24
because I was the point of the goggles and okay, I thought it
32:29
was for the for the for the predati vision fight, but no, he
32:34
went when he gets to the doorway of the room, he takes the goggles
32:36
off and they do it close up with his eyes and like the color of
32:39
his eyes glows, and that's the Wraith naturally seeing, you know, the
32:45
spectrum or whatever. And then Shepherd walks into that Ratus bug cave. Yeah.
32:50
Yeah, weird vision. Yeah, like the heat vision, you know
32:53
whatever, and then they have and then that fight looked cool the way it
32:57
was filming and stuff was all choppy and predatvision and stuff like that. From
33:00
like those stupid swimming goggles with girls the point that guy had to wear them
33:04
for like two days. Yeah, and they had to make them. Someone
33:07
had to go and buy swimming goggles then attach Wraith go to them and tailor
33:14
them to that and Raith's skull no reason, like those one of the swimm
33:20
goggles because they connect up at the back. They strapped. They didn't just
33:22
go over his ears, they strapped all the way around the back of his
33:24
head. Yeah, I know, but I'm just saying it's like they ripped
33:28
off those old two thousands speed YEA glasses and put some elastic round. Yeah.
33:37
And also like this is the most we've seen, Like I guess it
33:39
has to be of the Wraith hunt when they go after a runner, right,
33:44
Like I was, I don't know, I was a bit disappointed.
33:46
The fact that they just go down he straps on his I mean, goggles
33:50
is one thing. But the fact that he's just like a oh, he's
33:52
there, like on his watch and like that's not a hunt. Yeah,
33:54
you're just gonna find him. That's that's That's fine, my arfine bro.
33:58
Like that's I'm not a tech genius. I'm not a CIA surveillance operator because
34:02
I've got fire my iPhone. Oh it's in that building a couple of streets
34:06
away where I was for lunch today. Like I expect him to go down
34:08
the wraith. They're a bit analystic, like tracking smells something like that,
34:14
like go to familiar locations or something like that. Like I was actually kind
34:17
of pissed off when he walked to the room and he's like, oh,
34:20
he's right behind this door, Like that's yeah, you don't hunt use the
34:23
blood like track Ronan's blood if you're a predator and he's your prey. Yeah,
34:28
he was bleeding. That's why I'm like, you might't want to wrap
34:30
that up because he's going to track you. Yeah, you want to see
34:32
a race, no need touch their finger that and lick it and get Yeah,
34:37
it's fresh, he was here, I can taste the fear. But
34:42
then also the tracker on his forum, it was literally it was literally the
34:45
ancient life Stigns detector like it was the gaffer table on it. It was
34:50
the exact same size. It was that same blue light with the square grid
34:52
on it and the little dot going. And it was like, bro,
34:55
we know Wraith can't use those. So it's clearly just like yeah, it's
35:00
instead of making the goggle prop, maybe make a different life signs detective prop.
35:04
I mean obviously it's tracking the tracker, not the life signs, but
35:07
it's like, make a different prop for the Raith and don't waste time and
35:09
money on the goggles. That's why this episode costs so much money, or
35:14
even you know how they have those kind of wraith USBs. Just strap you
35:19
know those purples. Yeah, just strap one of those to his risk and
35:22
kind of get it to get it to light up when he's close, you
35:25
know, or a little like three D display that pops up or something like
35:29
that. But even if you didn't want it, as like Mitch is saying,
35:31
more Hunter things, Yeah, me, now I need to use my
35:36
senses. Yeah, I mean there's yeah, there's a lot of plot holes,
35:40
but it kind of the action redeems just pure. It's yeah, it's
35:45
Jason Mama. It's one of the reasons like I fell in love with Ronan
35:50
Dex as a character because, to be fair, like in the last if
35:53
you think about it, he's been on the show a year now, Yeah,
35:57
and he hasn't really had a lot to do. I didn't actually know
36:00
he was that good of an actor. Yeah. Yeah, that that scene
36:02
in the cage with the with the knife to his throat, I bought every
36:07
second. I actually thought it was going to be like Core and four point
36:09
zero. Yeah, yeah, the rth Bringer. Yeah, it's like Jesus,
36:15
there you go again. Yeah, and yeah I did like moments where
36:20
it's like where even the dude had a cane and a limp, Yeah,
36:25
like yeah, but yeah I did, like you know towards the end where
36:31
it's like where is like, no, you can't save me. I made
36:35
a deal with those people and Taylor's like the Wraith didn't hold up their side
36:37
of the plan. They killed that. It was actually hoping she was bluffing
36:43
leave because didn't they go back and everyone was dead? Didn't they go back
36:46
to track him and they you want to have been doing something? Sorry?
36:52
Sorry three star taking. This is a grub Ze Cooper episode. Yeah,
36:54
dull until there was one. I hate to bring this up because it's you
37:00
know, one of the weird scenes. But there's the moment between cold Will
37:04
and Weir where cold Will got really mean to Weir and I don't know why
37:08
about he didn't want to go about leaving someone behind. Look, you know,
37:19
I want to help, but I will not put my crew and the
37:22
only ship that we have in this galaxy at risk for one man, one
37:24
man who isn't a member of the US military. Say that he's a member
37:28
of my team and he deserves the same respect as anyone on his expedition.
37:34
We don't leave up people out there, Colonel not if there's any chance,
37:37
don't preach to me about leaving people behind. Doctor Weir youldn't know Shiites what
37:42
does that mean? Though she doesn't know ship But I'm just see there was
37:45
that long pause where there was like it was a moment between cold Will and
37:49
Weir where he's like, don't you preach to me about leaving people behind?
37:52
And I'm like, was that a throwback to like some not or something like
37:57
that? But that was the difference. That was John on, Like,
38:00
that was John that did that. We wasn't there. Remember there was that
38:04
colonel that came back and goes, you, sir, aren't going to be
38:07
the game. His name was Colonel Flattop from the siege. Yeah, he
38:14
was pissed off and then he turned around but nice by the end. After
38:17
he got sucked off by a race. That's how I'm coining that from now
38:21
on. Yeah, getting sucked off by I thought, But yeah, I
38:25
guess it's kind of like I'm a military man. I've I've lived this life
38:30
forever. You've just come in two years ago that you it was, don't
38:37
you talk to me about okay, Yeah, to me, it was more
38:40
and fastist on the wrong side. Yeah, no, just because there was
38:44
where they just they paused and there was a good three or four seconds there
38:46
where it was just coldwell and we are It was like I've seen each other
38:50
back and forth, and I'm like, what is he referencing? Like,
38:52
yeah, just John, give it to you. Then she could get a
39:00
little breathy. Sometimes she can get a little breath in. Speaking of John,
39:09
I think this might be the first appearance of his leather jacket. Did
39:13
anyone else notice? Very cool? Yeah, because it was cold on that
39:16
planet, right cold on the ship when Taylor came up, because he was
39:20
around a jacket. Then when he was drinking out of his little Yeah he's
39:24
in his little sippy cup. Yeah, she didn't care, she was She
39:27
didn't. Obviously she doesn't feel the cold. She probably does, but it's
39:30
like I need to I need to get something through it. I don't think
39:32
I need all of his attack. I couldn't see nipples in your mind.
39:37
You could, yeah, yeah, spoiler for Mitch. But it's like,
39:42
you know, I think Rodney doesn't get like his version of that leather jacket
39:45
to like season four or five or something like that. You know, oh
39:47
yeah, just I think for the rest of this season, like everyone else
39:52
is wearing just their normal Atlantis sort of mission jackets, and John's rocking around,
39:55
they get a jacket cooler. Reminds me of Patrick Stewart when he suddenly
40:00
so he's suddenly got a different uniform from everyone else on the entire ship on
40:02
the Enterprise for no reason. I mean, how many are we getting away
40:07
with? Last couple of weeks have been I don't prefer the buttons a week
40:10
on this smitch, Yeah, we're going to get people riding in look last
40:15
week that that's too. It was kind of counteracted because it became a topic
40:20
and that I was just playing tennis with you know, watching and I'm like,
40:23
you know, what is it? Equally, I didn't bring it up,
40:25
that's true, So there was no that's three saying it stuffered too much
40:30
trouble. Well, yeah like that like that one person said, any opportunity
40:35
I don't take to get my microphone turned off is wasted. So yeah,
40:38
but yeah, we touched on it before I did. Also, like the
40:42
I mean, you guys were obviously ogling over Taylor's boobs during that scene.
40:45
But I did like the stuff where she was finishing his sentences in a funny
40:49
way, like, oh, you don't have social skills friends, Yeah,
40:52
that kind of stuff. But then it was kind of nice for John had
40:53
that memories like you guys are my family. Yeah. Nothing, I wouldn't
40:58
do full diesel. Yeah, verbally because yeah, because obviously, you know,
41:05
I've always said Atlantis is kind of the fast it's SG one on fast
41:07
forward, and it's like we're in season three now, which is kind of
41:12
the equivalent of season six of SG one, So it's yeah, it's it's
41:16
good for them to vocalize the fact that we're firmly you know, and they
41:21
actually do sort of love and care about each other friends. Yeah, he's
41:24
not a loser rough childhood. Yeah, I just I just deliberately avoid people
41:30
by flying helicopters in the most remote parts of our world. Yeah, I
41:35
mean it was annoying that we're not annoying, but I was like, it
41:37
was unfortunate that he only had that conversation with Taylor, and you know,
41:40
he didn't have that like Ronan McKay weren't part of that conversation. Yeah,
41:45
yeah, back it, but another time, Yeah, maybe maybe it would
41:49
have been nice, you know, in that end scene for it almost to
41:52
sort of come back there or something like that, when Ronan's hugging and stuff
41:54
like that seem to be moments like and you know, Ronan say thank you,
41:59
He's like, well that's what I do for family, yeah, or
42:01
something like that. Maybe that would have been too maybe, you know,
42:05
because of Robert see Cooper, two men can't actually talk about their emotions and
42:07
show affection to each other, barely stand next to each other. That's what
42:12
That's why Taylor had to have the cans out more than usual for that episode,
42:15
because John was being vulnerable and the only way he can do that is
42:19
with a woman not working. Cast was like, how come it's so cold
42:22
in here? John gets a jacket. I'm like, I'm a renegade.
42:25
What are you saying? Yeah, tits out? I mean people say I'm
42:30
like coolbrick and and I don't. People say I don't say this. I'm
42:36
repeating what I've heard people tell stories about the week we spend filming this episode.
42:40
People tell stories like they were on Apocalypse Now. But you know,
42:45
I don't do that. I I lost my hearing because I'm too stupid to
42:50
wear ear plugs to imagine, I thought my phone was broken, honey,
42:55
I can't hear your honey. They didn't know. I'm an idiot. They
42:59
didn't have and it was weeks later, so he probably just didn't clean his
43:01
ears, probably had nothing to do. Yeah, he would be. He's
43:06
to look his breastings. They didn't have headphones, they only had ear plugs,
43:09
and ear plugs going to your ears seemed gay because it was something going
43:14
into a hole in my body, and that just seemed gay. Chean,
43:20
chean. I thought that was you. I can't Yeah, I can't.
43:23
I can't not hear that anymore. She is breathy. I'll give I'll give
43:27
you that. She is breathy. Hey, I just wanted to talk some
43:31
start, you know how, I'm fascinated with the fact that everybody has their
43:36
stargate, just the traditional way in the ground, face up. The only
43:40
time it's different is like a space gate. Well, the only one we've
43:44
seen is two thousand and one where they're using it to kind of drive the
43:49
harvester. Yeah. I just think they should do more of that. Like
43:52
even if planets like Setita, who clearly have some technology, should be able
43:57
to and if they're not smart enough for or good enough to make an iris,
44:01
at least hang the stargate up like a meter from the ground, so
44:07
if a dart comes through, just crashes into the dirt. Now we're going
44:10
to make a rifle with three barrels. Yeah, and we destroyed three ship,
44:15
two ships, but they were just small ships with the darts. I'm
44:20
like, yeah, so there's an easy way to avoid that. Yeah,
44:22
it helps because we have it next to like a huge wallah. Yeah,
44:27
I mean there was that line where he's like he's easily come back and forth.
44:30
Yeah, I mean there was that line where it's like, oh,
44:31
you know, some planets have been obliterated from space by their city side ships
44:35
blah blah blah. But it's like the whole point of Wraith is they cut
44:38
the food. So it's like they're not going to obliterate you from space if
44:43
they want food. And it's like if the darts can't get you from the
44:47
stargate, they have to they're gonna have to try a different way. They're
44:52
gonna send them, maybe send hives down, Maybe send darts down from the
44:54
hives. And it's like that buys you an opportunity to maybe that. I
44:58
mean, I know they say, you know, they leave the gate running
45:00
so that you can't dial out an escape, but it's like it was a
45:04
pretty built up society. Like compare them to the Ethosians with huts and making
45:10
soup. These guys have you know, entire metro things, you know,
45:15
their tanks and all that and body armor and that kind of stuff. Then
45:19
they're probably more advanced than the Jeni. Yeah you would think, well,
45:22
yeah, I mean look at that, you know, I did like the
45:24
moment where it's like they kind of tied up a few knots in that.
45:30
There was the flashback where Ronan was fighting with the guys like I'm out of
45:32
Amma, when he's like two blocks down there's a storage facility blah blah blah
45:37
blah, And he cut to Ronan going to that storage facility to you know
45:39
and opening up all the things. You're getting weapons. So I think that
45:43
times were we're going where do you know rule the weapons were? You work
45:45
for military house. But it's like, yeah, if they could have all
45:47
those kinds of weapons, well, they do pretty kind of voiceover of the
45:53
Prime Minister or the President or whatever they called him. It said, it's
45:57
been two hundred years since the last culling, so oh, I miss that.
46:00
It gave them good opportunity to kind of build up there. Yeah,
46:05
I just feel like, you know, probably what industrial level I guess you
46:08
would go. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, I feel like there
46:15
should be some way that you have the stargate facing a wall and then if
46:22
you want to use it, you can still go, but at least the
46:24
gap between the wall and the stargate should be like a dart length because those
46:30
things can fly through as long as it's a coouced length away, and then
46:34
that ship's just going to plummet right into that. And a lot of the
46:37
times they cult through stargates, it's not like they they bring a hive to
46:43
every time they cull, correct, They just gate in and cull like a
46:45
light culling. Yeah, well that's it. I mean, you can you
46:47
can gate somewhere in a minute, but it might take days or months to
46:52
get a hive to get to that planet. So it's like, if you,
46:57
yeah, if you're at that level of development, have yeah set up
47:00
like that to notice like, okay, these darts have come through, They're
47:05
not we know then that there's a hive that's going to be on the way,
47:08
and it gives them advance warning. It then gives them a month or
47:12
whatever to start evacuating people through the Star game. Yeah, exactly, you
47:15
know, or going into like the Jani managed to hide underground from the race,
47:22
you know. Yeah, I know you're right, or even just lay
47:24
it flat. I mean, I get it. Some of them use it
47:27
for trading and they probably don't want to kill like other travelers who come to
47:34
trade with them. And half, yes, well your idea to be stuff,
47:36
you know, five ten meters away from a brick wall. Yeah,
47:38
like a dart's going to come through and just just canooe. Yeah, absolutely,
47:44
No, that's a fantastic Never I've never actually thought of that. That's
47:45
a fantastic idea. I mean I've thought of hundreds of different things you could
47:50
do with that gate that they never do. Yeah, it's just always in
47:52
the pedestal or in the ground. The only time we see it is in
47:55
that episode two thousand and moment the Harvester. That was actually maybe not the
48:00
only time, but definitely that I can well where it was intentional, Like
48:02
I think the first time was like back in Robert Cooper's first episode First Commandment.
48:07
Yeah, it lay down. But the other one with the dug that
48:09
was tribal, that was you know, that wasn't intentional, that was just
48:14
it had fallen over and that was the other one was where they I think
48:21
the gate was on was facing down and then hundred days where it got hit
48:24
by the comments. Yeah, that was one of them men. The other
48:27
one was the they that was built into the wall. Remember that was built
48:35
There was another one where it was laying down and then like that it made
48:37
the last dug out for them. That's what I remember. Yeah, that
48:39
was that was when I got hit by the media when Jack was stuck on
48:44
that planet. And then they sent Tilk through with different one. That one's
48:47
facing up. No, that one was facing down because remember till the Kowoush
48:52
created the dugout for it and then he had to shoot the cable through and
49:00
was hanging by the cable. Uh. The other one was when was it
49:06
the Carter episode where she remember she was on the planet being hunted by the
49:08
Carl by the Carl Warrior. Could have been was it that one? Yeah?
49:13
Yeah, because yeah, because they that created a little dugout for them
49:16
and then Tilk and Jack Yeah inside that yeah, because they have a little
49:20
ladder. Yeah yeah, yeah, because that was after the self destruct,
49:23
not like intentional a lot of the time. No, that was all situational.
49:28
Yeah, And we were the only ones with an IRIS I think,
49:31
was it so car might have had one once, that one with that beam
49:36
shooting at it something like that, and then yeah, the only other ones
49:39
we've had of I think the Atlantis Tolan had a shield. Did the Tolan
49:44
have a shield or a or a IRIS or something? Because I remember they
49:47
built their own stargate when they when they got to like Utulana or whatever it
49:51
was. I don't think they did. Yeah, well I guess it was
49:52
off the grid so that yeah, yeah, but yeah, I just feel
49:58
like they could use it. Yeah. You think if your entire society was
50:01
built around the fact that you get cold over a few hundred years, Yeah,
50:06
yeah, you think to shoot down to dot it's like, bro,
50:09
yeah, do something better straight up against the cliff like it should be in
50:15
a bunker. Well, obviously, you know, the Citetons aren't as smart
50:20
as me. So I mean not to sound pretentious, but you know,
50:25
I'm obviously very smart. Well, I don't think I'm smart. People around
50:30
me seem to think that. Every I mean I look around, it's like
50:32
Trump. Actually, I just I unintentionally people are like, oh my god,
50:38
it's a genius. Oh my God is a genius. They give me
50:42
a budget. I hear restrictions. I don't deal with restrictions. I want
50:45
to think I have the box. I don't even think about a box.
50:49
I think it would be more of a circle, no hard edges. I
50:51
only think about boxes because they're thinking about two men being together as gross.
50:54
That's disgusting. So it's only about boxes for me. That is some of
50:59
the I mean, that's your best work. That's some of his best works.
51:02
Wow, that would have been very painful to edit that. I appreciate,
51:06
appreciate God yea as that was. It was very entertaining for me to
51:09
listen to and just be like mind blown, like he was actually genuine every
51:15
single thing. The fact, how many times did he mentioned how the cast
51:20
was so amazed. Boy was right there with him, just que all over.
51:25
I didn't see noble leaders. Somebody said it on the I just I
51:30
just heard someone heard them, did Yeah, yeah, he heard them noble
51:35
leaders. You know, who are you again? I mean, I mean
51:39
the cast at the end of the season, and we know that Robertson doesn't
51:44
associate with the crew of course, or pay for drinks. We know that
51:49
he's not paid for and the crews be just like the drinking game they could
51:55
play, just telling stories about the ship that he What I love is that
52:00
he suddenly, you know, compared it to like Apocalypse Now, and it
52:06
was like, if you watch Upon Down, well, no, no,
52:07
there was the part that I cut out is the really yeah? As well
52:10
as that, Yeah, they said there was a part there where he says
52:14
like people were telling war stories of the week they took to film Setita.
52:19
People were telling war stories the same way people told war stories of Apocalypse Now.
52:22
And to me, it's like, well, what's old mate, who
52:25
was in Apocalypse Now? Yeah, Marlon Brando, I'm like, well,
52:29
to me, Robert ce Cooper's Marlon Brando of the Stargate universe where he was
52:32
just he was a nightmare on that on that shoot. Yeah, he was
52:37
three hundred pounds overweight and refused to lose weight to him in the dark,
52:39
yeah, because he wasn't And then he was just reading his lines on a
52:44
on Q cards off screen. Still good, stuck to people's faces. Still
52:49
actually not bad performance, I mean, not his best. It's a boring
52:52
movie. Yeah, watching There's the Jungle bits are good. When you get
52:58
to him, it's like, yeah, I was very bored during that film.
53:00
I'd rather go watch hot Shots. I don't think I've seen hot Shots.
53:06
I haven't seen either of them. Yeah, Apocalypse now ortch No,
53:09
I know you didn't get into the Reducks when they read no least. I
53:17
have seen hot Shots part Yeah, yeah, but see never the first one.
53:22
So I'll just go to fury if I won a good war movie.
53:28
I'm not a qubic fan either. I've realized too, Like I didn't think
53:31
I was until I watch Shot. That movie is good. Oh yeah,
53:35
that's what we talked about that a while, didn't we. I haven't been
53:37
back to see that in a while. I watched. I mean I only
53:38
watched two thousand and one Space to See for the first time, maybe five
53:42
six years ago, and I think I don't think it holds up to now,
53:45
but I understand it was big for what it was. I think I
53:47
watched in the two thousands when I was seventeen. I was pretty bored.
53:52
I don't think I've met it through clockwork Orange, and I definitely didn't make
53:54
it through full metal jacket, you know me with like the military, I
54:00
like, if I can't make it through the first half of the like Captain
54:04
America or sorry, the second half of the Captain America First Avenger film,
54:07
there's no way I'm making through a full metal jacket. I do want to
54:09
see Spartacus. I want it's supposed to be good. SPA didn't last week
54:15
he is talking about that's right. Last week cam Mitchell said, all right,
54:22
Spartacus to bar Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a great little
54:27
gig the way he was dressed. Yeah. No, but like iron Ball,
54:31
No, iron Ball, Spidacus, Barry Lindon, whatever that movie is
54:39
Orange, it was a double Doctor Strange Love. Isn't that a Bond film?
54:45
No? No, there's a that's what Apocalypse Now is kind of like
54:50
Doctor I mean I didn't I haven't seen Doctor Strangel. But isn't that a
54:53
weird dude in the jungle wearing a hat or something? No, isn't that
54:59
the only doctor moro? Oh okay, that's what the cat people. Hey,
55:02
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55:12
Kubrick films not on the list. Maybe that's the next one. We'll listen.
55:15
We'll list our favorite Steeley Kubrick films. Yeah, good, listen our
55:19
favorite films. I'm actually listening to. My favorite Steeley Kubrick film is Setita
55:23
on Stargate Atlantis. I was listening to a podcast. The title was,
55:30
was Kubrick Actually good? Right? Listens to podcasts nor nudes? Actually just
55:39
wrapping up the audio commentary, I found my own bit man tapping joint and
55:47
and had this to say about Robertson Kuber. The directing made me sick.
55:54
Thank you, Amanda, slow clap it out for I mean, I've been
55:59
waiting for you. That's that's why he's the glue people, this is why
56:02
Mitchell's You guys don't understand an old clag over here. That's gee, got
56:07
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