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Giannis "Hurt" And Wants To Be Traded? CP3 Sent Home? Tomlin Done? · Fanatically Speaking with Kent

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on social media. That's not what I do. The first
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know, just inept offense, inept defense, special
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teams, you name it. I'm going to turn into Oprah.
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This game, whatever, whatever's going on, right?
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They double Homer. And he's like, told you that.
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Why are you always knocking down people? Listen,
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that. You need the highs and the lows. So I do
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that, yeah. I'm trying to be the voice of reason
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here. I am what I am. What's up everybody welcome
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to another episode of fanatically speaking I'm
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Kent the co -host and promoter I Am log off the
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log off legend the hater of all things social
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media I am the co -host and producer of the show
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and today's episode we are hitting on some current
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event hot topics three guys who are I would say
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legends and They've got some decisions to make
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their organization's got some decisions to make
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or they've already made the decision and we want
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to hit on them yeah yeah we do and you're right
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i think all of these guys are well respected
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all three of them and we were actually talking
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about this a little bit before we uh kicked off
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the recording all three of them fully respected
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take their sports incredibly serious their career
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is incredibly serious serious and Or I think
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it's fair to say team first guys Is that you
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think that's fair to say? Oh, definitely Yeah,
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okay. Yeah team first guys hard workers, you
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know just like so and we'll stop we'll stop bearing
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the lead Who do you want to start off with because
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we I mean I think we can go in any direction
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with this So we can start off with with whoever
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you like Let's just start with with Yannis Sure,
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let's start with Yannis Because I think I think
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we'll lead into the more juicier one Because
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it's a whole nut. No, let's go. No, let's do
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it. Yeah, Yanis It had been talking to all season
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probably for the last year or so The Bucks are
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they gonna trade Yanis? Does he want out and
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he stayed pretty loyal? You know, he stayed with
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that team He was proud of himself with the Bucks
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leading them to a championship the team that
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drafted them He said he doesn't want to go join
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super teams, things like that. And he's been
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a man of his word. But sometimes it comes to
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a point where the organization just isn't going
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anywhere. And it's just not, you're kind of wasting
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a superstar's career. And it's not helped to
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get Doc Rivers, it didn't help getting Damian
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Lillard. And then this year we talked about it
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at the beginning. What did we think the Bucks
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were going to do? They had Miles Turner, Cole
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Anthony. They went out and got Kyle Kuzma last
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year. And it's really not helped. Now we find
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Giannis on the shelf. He's going to be out in
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probably a month. And this happened immediately
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after the story came out that they were going
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to, they were pretty much talking about working
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out a deal, figuring out his future. Yeah. And
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so when you talk about figuring out his future,
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There were some theories and, you know, concepts
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that had been kind of thrown around, whether
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or not he was demanding a trade, whether or not
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he was requesting a trade. Head coach, Doc Rivers
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came out and said that Giannis had not, you know,
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demanded a trade. He put that on the record.
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And then, like you said, immediately after those
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reports and everything come out, he goes down
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with a non -contact injury. That if we're going
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to be honest looked a little suspect It just
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it didn't look like a normal injury, which I
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think kind of adds fuel to the fire But the interesting
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thing that I've always heard now and I actually
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like this about the NBA No secret. I love the
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NBA basketball favorite sport. I love it, but
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it's got more conspiracies around it than any
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other sport like a lot of conspiracies and It
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seems like there's always a hidden story or hidden
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something behind what's taking place with a story
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that comes out or some spat between players or
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organizations. And the interesting thing is I
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want to see Giannis do well. And he's always
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one of those guys. And I've actually heard Charles
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Barkley say this. He gives 100 % effort. Two
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guys, Russell Westbrook, And Giannis always give
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100 % effort every night. They're not out there
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half -assing it as players. They don't cheat
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the fans in that regard. So I'd like to see Giannis
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do well. I don't know where I want him. I don't
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know if the Bucs are actually gonna move him.
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I don't know what type of trade packages they'll
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get for him. But, you know, having him injured
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complicates things further. But I feel like the
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injury actually serves him a benefit because
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it gives a stretch of time. for teams to be able
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to actually put forth packages together so that
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if they are going to make a trade with the Bucs,
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you know, the Bucs may be able to get the best
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offer. Yeah, I think right now it's like way
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early, even though probably any team would be
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ready to jump at the chance to get Giannis. But
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then some of the teams they've named, some of
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the players, it's like, do you want to mess up
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the chemistry of your team? Again, even though
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it's getting Giannis, it could possibly get Giannis
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on your team. But I think that month, Will like
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you said give the teams chances to get their
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packages together But also see where their teams
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at a whole nother month first of the year closer
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to that trade deadline They'll be about a month
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away from the deadline at that point So there
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again midseason is normally when teams make trades
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when you're talking about. Okay, where we at
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where we going You'll have a better idea of who's
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in contention and is our team working? Is it
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not working? And can we add Yanis not for this
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season but for the future too? All right, and
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I'm gonna push back a little bit or something
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you said I don't if I'm trading for Yanis, I
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Don't give a shit about chemistry go get that
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guy. We'll figure that out later I don't want
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to hear anything about team chemistry and I don't
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Hit he is such a high -level talent that you
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can't even if you do feel like it's going to
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obliterate your team chemistry, having him in
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your locker room, having him on your team is
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a much greater benefit as a basketball team as
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we know that one dominant player can shift the
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face of a, it changes the trajectory of your
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franchise for the next, you know, five to seven
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years as he did for Milwaukee. And he developed
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into that. He was a skinny kid coming into the
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league. Oh, yeah, nobody knew. He started playing
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basketball late. Yeah. Like like he's rounded
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out into a super, super high end player. And
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the other thing is I think one of the bigger
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questions is, are you going to be able to trade
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for Giannis and not take his brother with him?
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Is he going to have to have his brother on the
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team, too? I don't think I don't know that I
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don't know he has to. I mean, from what I've
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seen, has he played a season without his brother
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being on the roster, ever? I'm not sure, but
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I don't know, man. I don't know if they've got
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the LeBron -Bronnie relationship. From what I've
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seen and from what I've heard is the Nasus who
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we all know not to be a great basketball player.
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He keeps getting some NBA contracts, man. He
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stays on that Bucks roster. It might be, hey,
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he don't cost a lot. So I mean, you know, why
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not? Again, if you get Yanis, I don't think the
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other team cares. Fair enough. Yeah. But still
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a roster spot. Yeah. And if you're a team, and
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if you're a team that is legitimately trying
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to compete for a championship, that roster spot
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could matter. It could be the 15th guy. I mean,
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okay, I'll give you that. But we'll, you know,
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we'll see, we see a lot of teams where when,
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when you look at teams that win championships,
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they are complete. The only reason that 14th
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and 15th guy could be there is because one through
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13 super strong. Um, so just to kind of put a
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bow on this, I know you've heard some of the
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rumors about where he's talking about being traded.
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We talked about There was some rumblings about
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him being traded to the Knicks. That was actually
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last year. So there are some rumblings about
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the Knicks wanting to make some moves. Have you
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heard anything that interests you or do you have
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a team in mind that you would like to see Giannis
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play for? So I've seen some of the mock trade
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ideas, right? They've come out and it's Atlanta.
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It's New York. They named the Spurs. Because
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again you you have to have and the Warriors Because
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you have to have the capital and I'm sorry you
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said you said the Warriors one. Yeah, I've seen
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that I'm trying to think I think there was a
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fifth one And I'm just drawing a blank at the
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moment on it And these are all just projections
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these are all just hypothetical like yeah the
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Rockets Okay, and again and again some of these
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teams are having to give up a star player that
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they have now Some some it's draft picks obviously
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is gonna be huge in any honest deal. I Mean,
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you're probably yeah And again, we go back to
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why the Bucs would make this deal one the franchise
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at the moment's going nowhere They don't hold
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any of their own First round picks for like the
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next what four or five years? Yeah, and they
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are they are really strapped with the salary
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cap. They have not done a good job financially
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to Set their team up for success to sign even
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though they did sign miles Turner. They really
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Probably shouldn't have but they did And that
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again and that's the thing. It's been poor. It's
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been poor It's been poor management and and then
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of course the Dane contract You know, they were
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able to get Dame and trade him to Portland, but
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there's still a salary cap offset. I want to
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say it's something to the tune of like 20 million
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a year spread out against the Milwaukee bucks
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cap throughout the rest of the life of the contract
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just to get him out of the building. So there's
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dead cap hits and, and, and this is where I was
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saying to think the stuff about his brother.
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This is where this stuff matters because not
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only are you taking up a roster spot, that's
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an extra 20 million that you can't pay somebody
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else. Yeah. But the NASA ain't taking up that
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like I don't see the I'm just not that concerned
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about it I mean only because again, can you name
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the number 15th guy on an NBA team and tell me
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what he does besides cheer? No, I can't but When
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when you're a serious NBA franchise and it's
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funny that you said that because there were two
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teams, key teams that I had in mind that you
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didn't even mention, all right? And there's a
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lot of reasons for that. One of them is the Miami
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Heat. And I love that move because we were talking
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about serious NBA franchises. Name one that's
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more serious. You know, Pat Riley does not play
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those games. And I think him coming in, I think
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he embodies, you know, there's a lot of heat
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culture talk and, you know, just how serious
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they are as a basketball franchise and all that.
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But the one thing they do is they draft incredibly
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well and they develop talent. And they are creative
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enough in that front office to where they can
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make these types of moves to trade for a player
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like that. Obviously, the best example was, you
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know, the Wade, Chris Bosh, LeBron, you know,
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super team. Right. But The other thing is, is
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when we talk about a team that it's easy to just
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make the trade, the easiest team to make that
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trade is OKC. Oh, yeah. We've had this. We've
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had the conversation before about all as talented
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as they are and the great chemistry that they
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have as a team. But they've got great players
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on great contracts. And they've got every NBA
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pick for the next five years that Milwaukee would
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love to have. So. They could write up a draft
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sheet right now. I'm sorry. They could write
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up a trade sheet right now and send it over to
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Milwaukee and say, you're never going to get
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anything better than this. And just think about
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it. You could give up Chet Holmgren who's similar
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to Giannis in a lot of ways lengthwise, just
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length, height, defensive, you know, not as great
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as the offensive player, not as dominant, but
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he's got a lot of upside. Throw him into it,
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throw in some of those other guys. throw in some
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picks you get Giannis and you pair him with the
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rest of that squad they're all serious about
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playing basketball and I mean people think the
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OKC is scary now put Giannis on that team yeah
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when you were saying earlier about chemistry
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I was gonna I was gonna bring up OKC that obviously
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we talked about them they have all these picks
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and but would they want to mess up that you know
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but they got their championship but then it is
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that chemistry like would they make that trade
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to say, we have a good thing going. We have this
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deep roster of talent, but I would, and I'm sorry,
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I'll go back to it. The Miami Heat as well was
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one that I thought of as well, because they're
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always involved in big names, right? So my take
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on - Their name is in every big trade. Yeah,
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and I agree with you. I would trade Chet Holmgren
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for Yanis in a heartbeat. Heartbeat. in a heartbeat
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and those two first rounders this year I would
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give them oh we got this oh yeah trade them to
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milwaukee don't need them uh it's a hole so the
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thunder heat I think our our two teams definitely
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would be uh involved in this because here's what
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I think too though if Yanis is going to get traded
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he's going to have a say where he goes and we
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can blame we can bring up the Atlanta Hawks and
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we can bring up some other teams I don't think
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Giannis goes to, I think he has to be, I think
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he's gonna need to be traded to an organization
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that knows how to win, that is well run, like
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the Miami Heat. So when you start talking about
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teams like that, because I saw something about
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the Charlotte Hornets, right? It's like Giannis
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is not coming to Charlotte. You know what I mean?
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Even though they could put together probably
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a pretty good package with picks and young players.
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But again, probably not as good as package as
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these other teams. But again, when you talk about
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teams and organizations, of all those teams we
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just named, when you go from ownership to management
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to culture, then you are talking Miami Heat,
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OKC, San Antonio, and probably Golden State.
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Those four, I don't even put Houston in that.
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Do you agree with that? I don't think you just
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trade Giannis to the team that has the best offer.
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I don't think you do Giannis that way. If you're
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gonna mutually decide, hey, this is best, the
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next team he plays for I think has to be a well
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-run organization. You're not sending Yannis
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to Charlotte. You're not sending Yannis to New
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Orleans, Washington. You know what I mean? I
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know. I'm a pro player guy, okay? I exude that.
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It comes out of my pores. I don't give a shit
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where Yannis wants to go, man. He doesn't have
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a no -trade cause. If I'm the Bucks, we just
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went over how this situation is screwed. Yeah.
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their organization has not been run well the
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last, since they won their championship, it has
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not been run well. They kept a lot of older guys.
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They kept, I feel like Lopez played on that team
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for a decade. It hasn't been run well for them
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to be able to have growth in the future. Giannis
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was their centerpiece, we knew that. But when
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it comes to what's best for my organization,
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I gotta take the best deal. I gotta take the
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best players, and I gotta take the best packages.
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And that just comes down to, I mean, I hate to
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say it comes down to draft picks, but it does.
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Because anything can happen with a player that's
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in the league. You need that potential. Draft
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picks are cash in a lot of ways. Where a current
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player on your roster, or a current player that
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you trade for is somebody that's on credit. If
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that makes any sense. I don't know if that's
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a fair comparison. What I would do is if I'm
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Milwaukee I go to him and say hey, here's what
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we're gonna do. We're gonna move you I Don't
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know where we're gonna trade you to But we're
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gonna re up to for another deal. He's got three
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years left on his deal 22 28 29 he's a unrestricted
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free agent so starting next year he can sign
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an extension I sign him to an extension that's
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negotiated with another team and move him. So
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that way he's locked in, he gets all his money,
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his contract's guaranteed, and you can move him
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somewhere where you can get the best package.
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Now, I don't see a bad team just trading for
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him. We don't see horrible franchises trading
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for superstars. So it would be someone who is
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a competitor to be able to compete. for a championship
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we saw it with phoenix phoenix competed for a
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championship for a couple years and then they're
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like let's make the kd move and it didn't work
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out so give me but like atlanta give me the best
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deal atlanta i don't see atlanta making that
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move i don't think they've got enough there's
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too many other good teams I mean, I could see
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Boston making that move. If I'm Boston, I'm kicking
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in every door I can to get young. They should,
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but they want to cut, you know, they're trying
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to cut salary. But Atlanta, you know, what I've
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heard is, you know, and again, the Bucs, again,
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they'll take on expiring contracts, too, because
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then that sheds cap. So the Atlanta package that
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I saw was obviously they own the Pelicans first
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round pick because the Pelicans make bad trades.
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And that could end up being the top pick. The
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whole Derek Queen trade last year's draft. They
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moved up eight spots and gave up this year's
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first round pick. So, you know, a Trey Young,
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Porzingis, that pick and some other first round
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picks. Now, again, the Thunder have some really
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good picks too. The Spurs have good picks and
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young talent. Those three teams have really good,
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I mean, they could put together a really good
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package. When you're talking draft when you're
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talking draft picks Plus talent because I don't
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think the bucks are just gonna take picks like
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they're gonna need like hey Give me a reason
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give our fan. You know that they're gonna have
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to do a rebuild but expiring contracts a young
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player or a Trey young who only has a few years
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left and then the draft picks All right, and
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so sports business nerd comes out of course you
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can't just trade for picks and we talked about
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this before the con the salaries have to match
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the money has a match and and even though picks
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have a value they don't have the value of a 40
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50 million dollar contract so when you look at
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the hawks who are the highest paid players on
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that team trade trade and the highest paid player
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that i'm sorry trade down right there you go
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So, when you're looking at that roster and you're
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looking at who makes what, their second highest
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player is Christophe Sporzingis. And again, he's
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expiring. There you go. Expiring. You got Jalen
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Johnson. Yes. So, I mean, so it helps. But the
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other thing you just said is you still, you want
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a player that's got talent. I mean, people, I
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think people thought that Kristaps Porzingis
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would have been what Jan has turned into. I remember
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New York people, oh, oh, KP's gonna be, and then
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he turned out, bleh. But it's a hard conversation.
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We'll have to see how things play out. But for
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me, if I'm the Bucks, I take the best that I
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can get. You gotta give me something that works
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for me for the next five to 10 years. that I'm
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able to turn this franchise around, it ain't
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about Giannis. He's got his championship, he's
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got his contracts, he's got his money, and he
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has a reputation that is respected. That is hard.
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He's got all three of those things. He stuck
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it out as long as he could, and I don't have
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a problem with him leaving. But I can't just
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take a bad deal just to make him feel better
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so that he goes someplace that he's happy. I
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can't do that. I don't think it's taking a bad
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deal. And normally I agree with you that the
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team, especially when guys like Kevin Durant,
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demand James Harden demand trade every year,
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when they start, you know, they come up and do
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that, then I am all about the team saying, look,
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I'm going to trade you wherever I want to trade
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you. I think, I think this is a little bit different.
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I think Giannis has earned a little bit of respect
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from Milwaukee Bucks to not just send him to
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anywhere and they still get a good deal. But
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I see. And I, and I agree with you, but I know
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what you mean. Yeah, and and I don't see him
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and like I said just to be clear I don't see
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them trading him to a bad franchise No, I just
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don't I see them trade trading him to a a competitive
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Franchise that has the ability to compete for
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a championship with that acquisition of Yanis
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That's what that's how I see it. Just visually
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in as I'm as I'm thinking about it don't I don't
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think they would do that I think I think one
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more thing I'm just gonna say yeah the more I
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think about that okay see again I would trade
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I would make that trade it like I said in a heartbeat
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in a heartbeat got one loss right now they might
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go undefeated if they had you know I'm not even
24:19
joking I'm not even joking yeah and I'm with
24:21
you and just think about it dude like you can
24:23
he could play I mean, he could play 28 minutes
24:28
a game because he like just crazy, just crazy
24:33
stats, crazy metrics. They're they're so, uh,
24:39
so deep. A honest SGA combination, man, is dead.
24:43
It is illegal. Because like you said, Chet Holmgren
24:47
is a good player. I'm not going to, you know,
24:52
he's not a superstar. I don't know what you call
24:55
him. But yeah, you switch out him and Yannis
24:59
and yeah, just forget about it. OKC's already
25:04
unstoppable. And Yannis, I want them to do it.
25:10
Yeah. And by the way, I love this. It's fun to
25:13
think about, man. We'll see how things play out.
25:16
And if I'm OKC, I get on the phone. Oh, yeah.
25:20
And I give them, I say, listen, take what you
25:25
want. You know who are not going to give up,
25:27
they're not going to give up SGA. You know, I
25:29
don't see them give up, you know, giving up one
25:30
of the Jaylins, you know, but I think Chet, Chet's
25:33
absolutely on the table. Chet, I think the Bucks
25:35
would be happy with Chet. And again, they have
25:38
two possible lottery picks from other teams this
25:41
season and then whatever else picks they have.
25:44
So, and again, if you ever trust the team to
25:47
make a trade and it work out, it's the OKC Thunder.
25:55
This person that we're gonna talk about next
25:58
is in a situation and his name's come up in the
26:01
past few years as well about switching teams
26:04
Being fired so it's not a player. It's a coach
26:08
and again in the news lately is Mike Tomlin and
26:11
the Pittsburgh Steelers Okay, and I Do you mind
26:18
if I lead off on this for can I go first on this
26:20
one? Full disclosure before the season started,
26:27
and I have the proof, I said to you, do you remember
26:32
what I said about the Steelers record? And I
26:35
got laughed at. You said that it would be below
26:37
500 for the first time in Tomlin's career. Mike
26:41
Thomas career. I said this before the season
26:43
that's out of your hate now It was it was mostly
26:47
fueled by my Aaron Rodgers hatred Yes, and and
26:51
by the way in he I mean we talked about it in
26:53
the last episode like this is what Aaron Rodgers
26:56
does Aaron Rodgers He could take a blowtorch
26:59
to your locker room throwing people under the
27:01
bus He doesn't like to take accountability for
27:03
the things that he messes up That's neither here
27:06
nor there but I kind of felt and I saw this coming
27:10
and this is where I'm gonna try to be careful
27:14
about how I frame this because these type of
27:19
topics bother me in a lot of ways. A head coach
27:25
with the resume of Mike Tomlin shouldn't be disrespected
27:32
in the manner To where they grasp at the straws.
27:36
They bring in Aaron Rodgers Hall of Fame level
27:38
quarterback With an injury history into that
27:42
historic franchise, you know, he gets injured
27:45
Their season starts. It looks as if right now
27:48
is gonna, you know go downhill But the thing
27:51
that bothers me the most is that the second he
27:55
slips Now they want to get rid of them Name a
28:00
more stable organization that you would want,
28:02
if you were a fan, that you would want, the Steelers
28:05
have a competitive chance every single year.
28:08
And then the second they slip up, it's like,
28:11
oh, we gotta get a new coach. Who are you gonna
28:12
get better than Mike Tomlin? Who? Who are you
28:16
gonna get? And not only who are you gonna get
28:19
that's better than Mike Tomlin, who are you gonna
28:22
get that's gonna fix all the issues that you
28:24
have with your roster? Who are you gonna get
28:27
that's gonna... Make you more competitive in
28:29
a crazy competitive division Who else are you
28:34
gonna get that's gonna fix the problems that
28:37
exists within the Steelers locker room and win
28:41
games on the field I Don't To me it would be
28:47
a bad short -sighted decision and it and I feel
28:52
like it's one of these things that's talked about
28:54
because it's so controversial. Like it's such
29:00
a lightning rod of a discussion that I feel like
29:06
the only reason that it's brought up is because
29:09
it has some strong talking points to it. I don't
29:13
think it's legitimate. There's nothing other
29:15
than the speculation that says that the Steelers
29:20
want to move on. from Mike Tomlin by the way
29:23
who is what their third head coach in that franchise's
29:27
entire history yeah like it's dumb like he's
29:31
not i mean we've been talking about this dude
29:33
we've been getting rid of Mike McDaniels in Miami
29:36
for weeks and he still has a job now Dolphins
29:40
are playing a little bit better but we all know
29:43
that he's not a great head coach Tomlin's a great
29:46
head coach And you guys want to get rid of him
29:49
for who, for what, for why? Make it make sense
29:53
to me, Kent. Please, I'm lost on this. Like I
29:57
mentioned, it's come up the past probably few
30:00
years. And there's been times where I kind of
30:04
get on board and I'll be like, maybe it is time.
30:07
Sometimes teams, franchises need a new voice.
30:11
But as you mentioned, you know, you got to like,
30:13
where are you going to find a better coach than
30:15
Mike Tomlin? Again, never having a losing record.
30:20
But I think it's, I forgot how many years now
30:23
though in a row, it might be close to like 10,
30:25
they didn't even one like a playoff game. So
30:29
you gotta say, okay, historical franchise and
30:33
you're kind of not 500, but you're average, right?
30:42
So. Is it time for a new voice? Is it time for
30:46
a new just direction? I don't you know, I'm not
30:50
saying it is but the talk is to talk right and
30:54
especially every time they They have a lot of
30:56
talent. So every time they're not playing as
30:58
well as they should Then it goes to the coach.
31:01
Why is the defense this way? Why are they not
31:03
winning? You know, whatever whatever now again
31:06
give Tomlin credit Since Roethlisberger they
31:10
have rotated quarterbacks almost like the Cleveland
31:14
Browns, right? They try to plug people in there,
31:18
Mason Rudolph, and then they had, you know, they've
31:21
had their Russell Wilson, Justin Fields, now
31:24
Aaron Rodgers. And I'm sure I'm missing somebody
31:27
they had in the past. I think in the off season,
31:30
they were looking at Sam Darnold. I don't think
31:32
that would have helped them. So I will say this
31:37
though. So Adam Schefter put out this week. Kind
31:41
of after all the discussion on the morning shows
31:43
and during the week that the Steelers are not
31:46
going to fire Mike Tomlin But they have a decision
31:49
to make next year after the season contract He
31:52
has two years remaining on it 26 and a team option
31:55
in 27 So they have to decide whether to pick
31:59
up his option by March 1st So they'll have meetings
32:05
all that fun stuff I'm in agreement, and I think
32:08
Rex Ryan said it on Get Up, if Mike Tomlin, the
32:12
Steelers, decide to move on, he will have a job
32:14
tomorrow. And that's what we're saying. We're
32:19
having a fun conversation saying, should they,
32:21
shouldn't they? And if they do, then where would
32:23
be a good spot? Where would it be a good spot
32:25
for Mike Tomlin? And right now, the current openings
32:28
are gonna be the New York Giants, the Tennessee
32:34
Titans, right? And if I'm missing somebody, I
32:38
apologize. I think those are the two teams that
32:40
have fired coaches during the season. If we look
32:46
at the Steelers, I'm gonna look at the Steelers
32:49
record and then I'm gonna go look to see if there
32:50
are any other teams. So the Steelers are six
32:52
and six, is that correct? And they still have
32:57
the Dolphins. Let's see, they have the Ravens,
33:05
I'm sorry. Then they have the Dolphins then they
33:09
have the Lions the Browns and the Ravens again
33:12
This the Dolphins should be a win The Browns
33:20
is a divisional game. It's going to be at Cleveland
33:22
So who knows? What Cleveland Browns team you
33:26
get what defense comes from that team and then
33:29
again the two Ravens games is going to be a battle
33:32
That could be a that could be either I don't
33:35
think they win both of them. I think they split
33:36
it or they lose both. And I don't think they're
33:39
beating Detroit. I didn't want to interrupt you,
33:47
man. To me, it doesn't matter if they lose every
33:52
single game the rest of the year. Let's say they
33:55
L the entire, the rest of the season. You still
33:59
don't get rid of Tomlin. Yeah. To me, Tomlin,
34:03
okay, and you are, from a basketball perspective,
34:06
I know you love your Hornets, you're a Spurs
34:08
fan. To me, Tomlin is in Greg Popovich territory
34:12
as an NFL coach. It's harder to win games in
34:15
the NFL than it is in the NBA period. but I'm
34:18
just going to rattle off something about Greg
34:20
Popovich because we never heard this shit about
34:22
somebody getting the Spurs getting rid of Greg
34:25
Popovich. Greg Popovich had to have a stroke
34:28
in order for the for him to step down as the
34:31
head coach. They haven't won a championship since
34:33
2014. Last time the Spurs won a championship.
34:37
This is their resume since that championship.
34:40
2015 lost in the first round. 2016 conference
34:44
semi -finals lost in that. 17 lost to the conference
34:47
finals, 18 lost in the first round, 19 lost in
34:51
the first round. And then every year since then
34:53
they've missed the playoffs. And no one said
34:55
get rid of Greg Popovich. Why? Because you knew
34:57
that dude was great. You knew that he was the
35:00
linchpin within your organization. And to get
35:04
rid of him would have been blasphemous. And that
35:06
was a gentleman that we know is much longer in
35:09
the tooth. He was an older, older man. And you
35:13
never heard, hey, let's just get rid of Greg
35:16
Popovich. Now, of course, Popovich won way more
35:19
championships and he coached, but he also had
35:22
way better players. I think the problem that
35:27
Mike Tomlin has is that he has mastered the art
35:31
of getting the best out of what he has while
35:35
being above mediocre. And it's unfortunately,
35:41
it's going to work to his detriment in a lot
35:43
of people's eyes. To me, I'm like, I would love
35:45
to have a team that's competitive every year.
35:48
So you have one bad year and now you're going
35:50
to get rid of the dude. Like it's just, it's
35:52
dumb. And, and I, and I'll, and I'll say this,
35:55
like it's, there's been some years where they've
35:56
missed the playoffs. I get it. But I mean, I'm
36:01
looking at it since 2014, just random. Year because
36:06
I guess well, I'll pick 2014 because that's the
36:08
same as um as popovich Yeah, okay. So I mean
36:12
so that one two three. I mean They've made the
36:16
the playoffs eight years Since 2014 Like they've
36:22
made they've made the playoffs. They may miss
36:24
it this year. So they've had a shot He's been
36:26
it's hard to make the playoffs, man We see good
36:29
teams and good franchises miss the playoffs all
36:31
the time and this guy keeps them competitive
36:34
without a quarterback. Yeah, I know. I mean,
36:38
after Ben Roethlisberger, they should have fallen
36:41
off a cliff. It's hard to find good starting
36:43
quarterback talent. And when teams have them,
36:46
they don't give them up. I get it. And he's still
36:50
able to find ways to win games. So even if they
36:52
were to lose out the rest of the year, go ahead.
36:54
You know what, Steelers, if y 'all want to get
36:56
rid of them, if y 'all want to try something
36:57
else, good luck, because you're not going to
37:01
find somebody as solid. And as consistent as
37:03
Mike Tomlin is, and everybody wants to get Ring
37:06
happy, and they want their team to be in the
37:07
championship every year, only one team can win
37:09
a Super Bowl every year. And they're in a stack,
37:13
and he's playing in the AFC during the Mahomes
37:17
regime. Come on, man. It's just, it's not going
37:21
to happen. Like it's hard. It's tough. Everybody's
37:24
going to take L's, but I just, I'm sick of the,
37:27
Hey, let's rush to, to fire guys. And it's like,
37:30
okay, well you got to fire. Hey, I got a nice
37:32
car that runs. Not the best car in the world,
37:35
but it's got some decent miles on it. My tires
37:37
are good. The engine's running great. And it's
37:39
like, Oh, okay. You're going to sell that car
37:40
and go get what? Yeah. I would compare it to,
37:45
you know, when the Eagles got rid of Andy Reed.
37:50
and Tomlin obviously has been in Pittsburgh longer.
37:55
But the one good thing, like I said, I agree
37:56
with everything you said. I'm not saying to get
37:58
rid of Tomlin. You know, he's never flamed out.
38:04
Like Andy Reid crashed out in Philly. Like it
38:06
got bad. Like it just flamed out, crashed, and
38:09
then they were like, okay, it's Tom. Belichick,
38:13
flamed out, crashed in New England. Ego got in
38:18
the way with ownership, things like that. I don't
38:21
see that with Tomlin and the Steelers. Like I
38:25
said, I agree 100 % with you. It's fun to think
38:29
about if they would let him go and then what
38:32
team would be best, like I said, because I know
38:34
it would be in a heartbeat the next day someone
38:38
would hire him as their head coach. Yeah, I don't
38:44
think the Steelers have a coaching problem. I
38:46
think they have a, you know, getting the right
38:52
talent problem. Like, you know, like, the GM
38:55
or whoever is making these decisions, why are
38:58
you not going out getting a younger quarterback?
39:00
Why didn't you draft Shador Sanders? Why didn't
39:03
you? You know what I mean? Like, things like
39:05
that. Like, and I know he has a say in it, but
39:09
it is kind of like, okay, you gotta get a quarterback
39:12
to win in this league. You can have this defense.
39:17
Like I said before, you got to have more than
39:19
one receiver. So, you know, add in Thielen. Let's
39:23
see if that helps him the rest of the year. And
39:26
again, yeah, I'll take it every day. Being competitive,
39:30
being around a winning record, you'll take that
39:33
every year. You'll take that because again, like
39:35
I said, he makes something out of nothing. And
39:39
again, like Schefter said, they're not going
39:41
to fire him. He's got at least a year, two years
39:44
left. So we're just, you know, a lot of times
39:48
this stuff comes up and it's something to talk
39:51
about. I figured we would join the party and
39:53
talk about it. You know, they got to, they got
39:56
to feel airtime on the network. So, you know,
40:00
it helps. It's just talking points. And it helps
40:02
us on this episode of our podcast. It does and
40:07
I'll I'll end it on this because you you you
40:11
typically don't have Freudian slips like this
40:13
I don't think you could have used a worst name
40:16
than Andy Reid That was a horrible horrible because
40:21
well one because Andy Reid only had one bad year
40:25
at the end in Philly One bad year and then the
40:28
Eagles moved on Again still one bad year left
40:35
and then probably probably after leaving the
40:41
eagles and going to Kansas City made the Super
40:45
Bowl I'm sorry made the playoffs two out of the
40:47
first three years and then only all he did was
40:50
win his division every year since 2016 go to
40:54
five Super Bowls and win but I think it so okay
40:56
but it could be a good I think it is a good comparison
40:59
because if Tomlin if the Steelers would be like
41:02
Philly and get rid of could be great for Tomlin.
41:06
He very well. It could be great. It could be
41:08
great. He could go to a franchise and turn them
41:11
around and have the run of Andy Reed. Like again,
41:14
you put Tomlin on the New York. He put him on
41:16
the New York Giants coaching that team. The talent
41:21
that the young, the young talent. You know what
41:23
I'm saying? A team like that. If the Steelers
41:26
would be dumb enough to get rid of Tomlin, he
41:29
could go on that run. Hold on. And that's my
41:33
because if Andy Reid didn't leave the Eagles
41:37
in shame, he didn't leave the Eagles in shame,
41:41
the Tomlin one feels differently. And again,
41:44
like I said, if the Steelers get rid of him,
41:47
if the Steelers move on from him, fine. It will
41:51
be the dumbest mistake that they made. Because
41:54
I could see him going somewhere, you let your
41:57
riches leave the door, walk out the door and
42:00
go somewhere else. and enrich someone else and
42:03
turn someone else around. And by the way, I mean,
42:05
I would like that. That's a Cinderella story
42:08
for me, man. If that dude ends up going to the
42:10
Giants, it makes New York football relevant.
42:13
Dude, I mean, imagine if he turned the Jets around.
42:16
Yeah. Oh, imagine if he turned the Jets. They
42:20
need a quarterback. I understand that, but I'm
42:24
just saying, if he's able to turn things around,
42:29
you know, it would be incredible. So, I mean,
42:32
we'll have to see. Nobody thought Mahomes was
42:33
going to turn into this. So Andy Reid got lucky
42:35
in a lot of ways. The Chiefs weren't good and
42:39
they made the, you know, he immediately made
42:42
the trade for Alex Smith. Again, went and got
42:44
a quarterback and then again drafted Mahomes
42:48
and Drafted my homes and then and then and then
42:52
and then pulled and then pulled him to the side
42:54
and was like yeah, man we're gonna take this
42:55
young kid and just and just Destroy everybody
42:58
in the playoffs for the next decade. So yeah,
43:01
I mean good for them, man I I hope it things
43:04
works out well for Tomlin. I really do that would
43:06
be a great and I think is it I don't think he's
43:08
going anywhere, but Yeah Let's see. Yeah, we'll
43:12
see how it plays out Let's talk about cp3 back
43:20
to the NBA and that great another I don't even
43:24
know they're not a great franchise but But cp3
43:28
Chris Paul is a legend. Yes, Chris ball is a
43:31
legend one of the greatest point guards of all
43:34
time and Or so how do you how do you how are
43:39
we gonna describe this because they the Clippers
43:42
sent him home? From a game there. There's all
43:45
these reports and Again, it's a lot of speculation
43:51
which seems to be commonplace in the NBA where
43:54
there's not really a concrete Hey, this is exactly
43:58
what happened. Here are the facts that we know
44:00
We know that Chris Paul has not played a lot
44:03
for the Clippers We know that Chris Paul has
44:05
not been playing well for the Clippers and we
44:08
know that There was a report that came out, I
44:11
believe it was Chris Haynes, I think I sent that
44:13
to you. Chris Haynes reported that he had requested
44:16
to have some conversations with Tai Lu, their
44:18
head coach, who, by the way, who quietly was
44:23
implicated in another gambling scandal, but somehow,
44:28
you know... He can still coach the team. It's
44:30
weird. He's connected to everybody that was involved
44:34
in that scandal. A lot of those guys. Everybody
44:36
that was involved in that scandal. And they just
44:39
allow him to stand on the sideline and coach
44:40
those games like nothing ever happened. But he
44:45
requested a conversation with Ty Lue, and that
44:47
was rejected based on the reports. And then they
44:51
ended up sending Chris Paul home. In the middle
44:53
of the night. Those are facts that we know. Like
44:56
two o 'clock in the morning, right? Two o 'clock
44:58
in the morning? Yeah, two, three, two, three
45:00
a .m. in the morning. They in it from Atlanta
45:03
sent him home. So now Chris Paul is one of those
45:09
players that has a reputation of taking the basketball
45:12
craft very seriously. I respect that because
45:16
we see a lot of guys disrespect the NBA in a
45:19
lot of ways. And I'll give credit to Michael
45:22
Jordan. He says it that he feels like he's from
45:27
a different era where he wanted to go out and
45:30
that one guy that's way up in the 300 section
45:33
that hates his guts, that's the guy way up there
45:36
that he wants to shut up. I feel like Chris Paul
45:39
is like that in a lot of ways where this is something
45:42
that he loves and he has a passion for the sport.
45:45
that is rare for a small point guard like that.
45:49
We saw how he's turned franchises around. We
45:52
saw what he did at OKC. It was amazing. I want
45:57
to see how this thing is going to play out. It
46:00
stinks that he announces that this is going to
46:03
be his last season. And then within a matter
46:05
of days, this is what comes out about him. When
46:09
you saw the news, What was kind of your first
46:12
reaction like what hit you the hardest when you
46:15
caught this about CP3? That again, the Clippers
46:20
are involved in something negative this season
46:23
That doesn't really have to do with basketball
46:27
it well it does and it doesn't right it's how
46:30
Chris Paul went to the Clippers because I think
46:33
he knew it was gonna be his last season He had
46:36
a lot of success there. So he wanted to end with
46:39
the franchise that We could probably say he had
46:42
the most success, right? Make some may argue,
46:45
you know, New Orleans. That's fair But the Clippers
46:48
was the one where he I mean, I mean listen know
46:51
if you if you could say I mean I say I Would
46:54
say that Chris Paul is the greatest Clipper ever.
46:57
Yeah. I mean he made that franchise relevant
46:59
along, you know, but So yeah, so when you say
47:03
they just sent him home Because they can't was
47:07
they they can release them. They can't trade
47:10
them Yeah, so they still have them but yeah,
47:15
I mean it's it's kind of disrespectful And I
47:20
know we talked about well, did he request it
47:23
did this happen to this blah blah blah But to
47:28
do a guy like that And we talk about a franchise
47:32
and we talk about respect and legends and guys
47:35
what they've done for your franchise It's kind
47:38
of it kind of struck me too that they would do
47:40
Chris Paul this way But like you said they're
47:45
standing behind Talu and they're standing behind
47:49
Kawhi Leonard You know, it's kind of they are
47:53
and scandal and Chris Paul is just trying to
47:56
say hey guys like You know, he may not be producing
48:00
on the court. But again, he's a 47 year old point
48:02
guard We know that, we know that his time is
48:06
done. Yeah, with bad knees, with bad knees. We
48:08
know that his time is coming up, right? But,
48:13
the way this franchise has been this year, and
48:15
he's been there, and he's probably seen firsthand
48:18
the outcome or the fallout from the scandal with
48:25
Kawhi, all the rumors about that. But think about
48:30
this too. Like you said coming from another era
48:34
different type of player Is there I mean think
48:40
about Chris Paul these guys weren't on the team
48:43
when he was a Clipper he comes back and he's
48:46
with Kawhi play every other game Leonard and
48:52
James Harden Who James Harden is balling and
48:58
I've never questioned James Harden's effort maybe
49:01
on defense But he's balling, you know what I
49:04
mean? But again, like I always said though, how
49:09
are you gonna win with guys who are losers? Like
49:13
James Harden, again, he doesn't win. You're a
49:17
franchise who's never won. And again, CP3 is
49:21
kind of in that category again. But again, at
49:24
least I respect his game, right? I mean, he plays
49:26
the game on both ends of the court. He's a leader.
49:31
and he was trying to give some advice. And there
49:35
was another video I saw recently, and I didn't
49:37
tell you about this earlier, and it was someone
49:41
was videoing a practice, and James Harden, Chris
49:44
Paul's talking, and I think it was Chris Paul
49:46
wanting to tell James Harden they wanted to name
49:48
the play. Well, then Ty Lue's going over the
49:52
play, and Harden's like, oh, well, you know,
49:54
CP3 said this. Ty Lue's response was, fcp3 This
50:02
is what we're doing So lack of respect I'm kind
50:08
of surprised from Lou Apparently, you know Maybe
50:13
they just don't get along. You know, I don't
50:15
know what it is. But again, I just go back to
50:18
The franchise that was my first initial thought
50:21
was another Another negative story about the
50:25
Clippers It's only at the you know was it November
50:28
at the time December Yeah, so it's like man the
50:32
season is literally like a month and a half and
50:36
the Clippers have Nothing good going on If it's
50:41
not kawaii Steve Ballmer this whole that whole
50:44
thing now you got the scant You know tie loose
50:47
somewhat connected to the gambling They suck
50:50
and then you say Chris Paul all these things
50:54
going on but We're going to kick you. We're going
50:57
to send you home because we don't want to hear
50:58
from you. So now and I'm going to play a little
51:03
bit of devil's advocate here because there had
51:06
been some, a lot of the whispers about Chris
51:08
Paul and him calling guys out in the locker room.
51:12
And, and I respect that because he's naming names
51:15
and it was all done internally. None of these
51:18
things came out about Chris Paul until after
51:20
they sent him home, which is one of the glaring
51:23
points that I want to make. So if it was such
51:26
a problem, we know how NBA locker rooms work.
51:29
You just leak a little something to a reporter
51:31
if you want to sully a guy's name to try to get
51:34
ahead of the story. But the other interesting
51:37
thing about this is the Clippers organization
51:41
as a whole, and I know that you said it was kind
51:43
of a different, it was a different roster at
51:45
the time when he played there, but the Clippers
51:47
front office was the same post Donald Sterling.
51:53
So when Steve Ballmer and everybody came in they
51:55
knew what type of player they were bringing in
51:57
and honest like Chris Paul's Chris Paul He's
51:59
always been like this. This isn't new, right?
52:01
So if anybody knew what type of player they were
52:04
gonna bring in that could disrupt the flow in
52:06
the chemistry It's like you bring in a vocal
52:09
undersized Hall of Fame point guard when the
52:14
best player on your team is a Quiet forward that
52:18
stays injured who has allegedly been taking money
52:21
off the books because he's got this special,
52:23
you know, cutaway deal with the owner. You brought
52:27
this guy in willingly. You didn't have to sign
52:29
him. You know, maybe you thought Chris Paul was
52:32
gonna come in and be quiet. You thought Chris
52:34
Paul was gonna come in and be okay with mediocrity.
52:37
You thought that Chris Paul was gonna come in
52:38
and not call people out. And we can sit here
52:41
and talk. And I understand the thing you're saying
52:42
about Talu and all that. But I'm gonna say, let's
52:45
just say that. Let's take whatever the negative
52:48
press has been about Chris Paul. Let's take it
52:50
and put it at 10. Let's put it at its absolute
52:53
worst. He still doesn't deserve this. Period.
52:58
Because the one thing that we know is that And
53:03
this is a guy who, I mean, wasn't he like the
53:05
head of the players association? Like he's been
53:08
a basketball first guy his entire career. And
53:12
now all of a sudden, you want me to think that
53:14
he is the problem? You want me to think that
53:17
he's the bad guy in this when he's never shown
53:20
it? And like you said, Kawhi Harden, Steve Ballmer,
53:27
Tai Lu, those guys have, let's just say, questionable
53:33
characteristics about them at this moment. We
53:37
can talk about Harden and his lack of effort
53:39
on the court, him crashing in games and poor
53:42
fitness. We could talk about Kawhi, you know,
53:45
constantly being injured, cutting side deals
53:48
with the owner. The owner, same thing. Billionaire,
53:51
all the money, all of that scandal. And then
53:54
Talu literally in gambling involved scandals.
53:58
But you want me to think that Chris Paul is the
54:00
issue. Hell out of here. And I see a lot of former
54:03
players, namely, I see Kendrick Perkins trying
54:06
to get the buzz and, you know, saying the stuff
54:08
that CP3 was warned about, you know, have his
54:12
behavior in quotes. He never went into specifics.
54:16
Tell me what CP3 was doing. What? Because he
54:18
wants a higher standard as a basketball team.
54:20
Something's wrong with that. Y 'all got a problem
54:22
with that. Hell out of here, man. You know what,
54:26
maybe all of this worked out for the best, because
54:29
I don't think, I think, and maybe you were trying
54:32
to say this, Kent, and maybe I kind of took this,
54:35
I grabbed this flame from you. But what I think
54:39
you were trying to say is, is no matter how this
54:42
washes out, this still makes Chris Paul look
54:45
better than the Clippers ever will. Yeah, they're
54:49
trying to make him look bad. And by the way,
54:52
Lawrence Frank, Tai Lu, when they get on a microphone.
54:55
Oh my god I forgot about Lawrence Frank. I forgot
54:58
about that asshole. They're lying out their teeth.
55:01
Basically anytime now I see this is how I feel
55:04
about the Clippers. Steve Barmer used to be the
55:06
fun owner and you're like oh yeah man I like
55:08
that guy. Now when he talks I don't believe him.
55:11
You roll your eyes. I don't trust him. When Kawhi
55:13
talks I ain't trusted that dude in a while but
55:16
you know I don't trust him. I don't believe what
55:19
he says. Because he's just denying everything.
55:21
Now, Ty Lou, I feel different about him, Lawrence
55:24
Frank. Because like you said, I don't come out
55:28
of this thinking negatively about Chris Paul.
55:30
And I've not always been the Chris Paul guy.
55:33
I'm not a huge fan. Even though he's from North
55:37
Carolina, I respect his game. I respect everything
55:39
about that. He's just not been my guy, right?
55:42
I mean, I just haven't. And I agree with you
55:45
there. And I was an anti -Chris Paul guy for
55:47
a long time. I don't trust guys that hit guys
55:50
in the nuts consistently. So I'm with you, but
55:53
I mean, I got the cape up for him. This is one
55:58
of these moments where everything that preceded
56:02
Chris Paul as a professional basketball guy gets
56:08
to, I don't care how stink this situation is,
56:11
man, the 20 years before covers all that up.
56:16
And you're not gonna lead me to believe that
56:18
they've got the super team Avengers over there
56:23
and Kawhi Balmer, Lawrence Frank, Ty Lou and
56:25
James Harden. And then all of a sudden, those
56:28
guys are pristine, but not Chris Paul. Hell out
56:31
of here, man. It ain't gonna work with me. And
56:33
I'm glad it's not gonna work with you either,
56:35
but it doesn't make a lot of sense. And maybe
56:37
this works out for the best. I hope they do let
56:40
Chris Paul go. And maybe, you know what, maybe
56:43
send him to New Orleans. Maybe send him back
56:45
to Charlotte and let him get that love and let
56:47
him get that admiration in his final season that
56:49
he deserves. He deserves that and it stinks that
56:53
they kind of took the wind out from under Chris
56:55
Paul. I don't like it, man. It's a terrible -
56:58
Yeah, I would love for him to come to Charlotte
57:02
and give some of his knowledge to LaMelo and
57:07
these young guys. Know that you know he knows
57:10
he's not going to play a lot and produce a lot
57:12
again. This is final season so yeah rather than
57:16
New Orleans because He may get he may get a huge
57:19
headache down there too with you know the things
57:22
they do But Charlotte at least I think is building
57:27
a better culture organizationally and they're
57:32
in Charles Lee with the team and the young group.
57:35
So, yeah, I would rather him come to Charlotte,
57:37
finish out at home in North Carolina rather than,
57:42
you know, plug on to another team. You know,
57:44
I don't think he's ring chasing or nothing like
57:46
that. He just wanted a nice sendoff, man. And
57:49
the Clippers screwed that up. And I think you
57:52
mentioned, like, do they, you know, man, do they
57:54
even retire his number now? Will it take years
57:56
to mend this relationship? But it depends on
58:01
who's in charge and who's in management. Yeah,
58:05
and I don't I don't see it and if I'm crisp again
58:07
Chris Paul's gonna be fine. I'm pretty sure this
58:10
hurts I'm pretty sure this stings and the the
58:14
smear campaign that they put out Against him
58:16
trying to make him look like the bad guy in this
58:18
situation. I think it's just I'm kind of grasping
58:21
for straws. I Think this ends well for Chris
58:25
Paul and hopefully he gets to send off that he
58:28
deserves. I hope so All right, that's another
58:31
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