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World Series Game 6, NFL Week 9, Cyclone preview with John Walters & Tom Kakert talks Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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All right, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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football Friday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller get it going for the next couple of
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hours as we return to Iowa based programming AT2O clock off the
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bench. The boys by the way in are in
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Ames Rally House for Sean and Lucas today.
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They're at the Rally House and Ames from 2:00 until 5:00.
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That's where they're at every Iowa State home football game
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weekend. Rally House in Ames.
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Trent Condon and Ken Miller with you here until 2:00.
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Here's what's coming up on our program.
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We will talk Iowa State with the voice of Iowa State, John
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Walters, our first guest today. He'll join us at about 12:25.
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We'll preview the Arizona State Gameboy.
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You see Sam Levitt now out for the year.
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Oh, that's a blow. Yeah, Eddie, a little inkling
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and I'm sure there's plenty of cycling.
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Well, Nate, yeah, there's no maybe here.
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No, it's off the table. He's done for the year now.
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I get it though. I mean, it's such a drop off
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between him and Sims, it really is.
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So we'll talk to John Walters about football.
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We'll sprinkle in some basketball as well when The
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Voice joins us at 12:25. Then Tom Cakehard, we'll talk
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Hawkeye related topics with Tom. He will join us at 12:40, kind
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of speculate as how the rest of the football season was.
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Go get some basketball in there as well with Tom. 1:00 Bama,
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Bob, Trent and I have way too many games than we'll ever get
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through on the list of games that we hope to opine on today.
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We'll do that at 1:00. And then at 1:30, we'll head to
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Las Vegas, catch up with her friend Mike Palm, the Vice
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President of Operations at Circus Sports will go behind the
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counter with Mike Serkis. I'm guessing a lot of sports
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book operators are rooting for the Blue Jays to get this bad
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boy over tonight. And as World Series shifts, Game
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6 winner go home for the Dodgers.
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They're not going anywhere, Trent.
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I think that they win tonight behind Yamamoto.
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And the reason I say that for a couple of reasons.
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First of all, Yamamoto. And they can't be as bad as far,
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I mean that 4 pass balls. 4 pass balls.
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On what night was it? Wednesday?
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Wednesday night, the Oscar Hernandez turns a single into a
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triple. You know, as that ball gets past
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him as Varshall's rounding the bases.
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They were their own worst enemies, and I got to think
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that's going to happen. I also think that the rest is
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going to do wonders for Shohei Otani because he was on fumes.
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Yeah, yeah, you could day off, even with the long road trip
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heading back to Toronto. He needed that.
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We talked about him trying to steal a base.
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He saw that when he got on right away.
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What is that? Game five and there's nothing
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there. I took a couple of bluff steps
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and that was it. Now he's also pitching and maybe
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that was something to try to conserve as much energy energy
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as possible. Do you go back to the same game
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plan you had though? Just don't give him anything to
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hit. I would, yeah, I would.
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Yep, I absolutely would. That would be how if I was John
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Schneider High. I will handle it.
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Do you have a feel for this game tonight?
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It's just not my, you know, negative.
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My team's going to lose. That's not how I'm approaching
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this. I I really believe that the
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Dodgers will win tonight and then all bets are off tomorrow.
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I like Gausman. I do too, I like him a lot.
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Now. I like Yamamoto better.
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If you would have told me certainly back 1/2 week ago
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before the three games in LA, that I would get the Dodgers in
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a Game 6. Yamamoto.
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Yamamoto, with what we've seen at him against Gausman and all I
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get is plus 123I, I, I can't take that price with the Blue
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Jays. I would have to have my number
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said plus 141 or better is when it'd be bet on and that's not
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even close to that. So if I had to make a play, it'd
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be on the Dodgers right now. I I like the Blue Jays.
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I just don't like him at the price in the market, right?
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Now, no, I'm with you. How long can bets be as bad as
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he has been in the batter's box? I just I refuse to believe that
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this is the Mookie bets. We'll see.
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I think it I think it's bodes well for the Dodgers tonight.
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And then we go to Game 7 tomorrow night and I have no
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idea who's going to start. They haven't named, they haven't
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hinted. I'm guessing, you know, the
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Dodgers are playing that close to the vest that they don't want
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to, you know, bullet well, they've already named their
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starter, you know, get a little ahead of themselves.
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Got a game to win here tonight. I don't know.
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I don't know if that's behind it or what's behind it, but we'll
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see. Going to be a fascinating game
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tonight. And there's really, with the
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exception of, I mean, we, you guys have high school football
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tonight, Where are you going to be?
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I'm going to be out of Valley Prairie.
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Kyle Knox Prairie Hawks come to town to take on the tigers and a
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special Halloween edition, as it'll be the black and orange
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against the black and orange. Love it and you can hear that
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game on the Bull, our sister station, 96 point. 7.
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Nope. 9. Yep, 96.9.
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Also going to be on the call with CISN.
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So if you're watching the broadcast tonight and going to
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be up in the booth tonight with Dominic Daphne, former Valley
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star, played in the NFL. I remember that.
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And now trying to work the Packers, right?
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Yes, he was with the Packers and now getting into the media game
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a little bit. He's been doing a number of
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Valley games. He's a Valley grad and going to
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be doing the game with him this evening.
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That's awesome. How long has he been out of the
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league? This is I, this is the first
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kind of full year. Maybe this is the first year
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that things all right now it's time.
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But a real job. Got a cup, got a cup of tea and
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good guy. I'm excited to work with him
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this evening. Good stuff.
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And of course, the crew will be here.
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Joe Stacy and company, they will have football Friday night.
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They'll be fanned out everywhere.
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This will be the penultimate show for them as they have the
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quarterfinals next week before the scene shifts to the Dome and
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the way we go for that. All right, so that's how we kind
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of see the at least I see game number six tonight.
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Let's get to what we saw last night.
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And this was just a an awful Dolphins football team.
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What has happened to Miami Dolphins?
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And there's going to be no change at the head coaching
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position. They fired the general manager
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today. I get it.
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They're they're going to let him finish out the year, finish out
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the season. The new GM will then be
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entrusted to hire a new coach and get an entirely new regime.
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But at this point, if you're a Dolphins fan, you have to be
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wondering what your team is going to look like come Tuesday.
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And I'm not sure what I mean. Obviously there are some parts
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to that team that would be that would find that could find their
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way to other teams rosters, but that is bad, bad football.
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And I'm not sure too is ever going to be the quarterback that
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many of them. I mean, Justin Herbert went
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after Tua. I I know they get a lot wrong.
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It's it's the draft is imperfect project.
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But man, oh man, he just looks broken back there.
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And I just wonder if it's his, all his concussions that he's
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had. It's kind of an easy leap to
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make. You know, when we've seen this
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guy and how diminished he is. Remember this team two years ago
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was outscoring everybody. They're putting 70 on the.
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Board didn't They score 70 against Denver.
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Is it? Yes, it was against Denver.
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Yes. This team was the talk of the
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league and Mike Daniel and looking goofy over there.
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But hey, he's got this team and here we are today.
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He is a dead coach, dead coach Walker, play out this string.
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You know, one guy I was wondering about is watching a
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chain. He's good, isn't he?
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He's a good player. You know, we've heard so much in
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the connections with Bruce Hall, and I know it's also our market.
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Bruce Hall being an Iowa State guy, he's from that area.
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A ton of things make sense. But if that's off the table or
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they're asking too much a chain in that Kansas City offense, you
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talk about something that would pop.
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Well, that's what that's to me. Once Simmons comes back for the
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Chiefs, they're they're they're a glare, not glaring weakness.
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But the one area that could use shoring up to me is the running
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back position. I really like and we've talked a
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lot about Burchard Smith. I think there's is he though, a
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between the tackles, certainly for this year he's not that.
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Guy, isn't he you? Like Smith, there's something
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special there and with the Kansas City and the way that
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they're built, I think he can be a really special back.
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A guy that, you know, catches 70 balls out of the backfield, runs
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for 800 yards, averages, you know, 5 1/2 yards per carry.
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And in a more limited role, I don't think he's rushing for
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1500 yards or anything like that, but he's more of a gadget
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kind of guy. But he works for with what they
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are and and I like the upside of him.
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But for this season, I think they need more.
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They need something there. They've got, I mean, obviously
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the receivers are as good as they got.
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All that speed that they've got now.
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Kelsey, well, nowhere near what he once was.
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He's still, he's still a good tight end.
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He gets behind you, you forget about him.
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The defence is solid, kicking games are solid and obviously
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Andy Reid's an elite head. Coach and this might be the best
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defence that they've had in this run, might be when they hit into
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consideration when they're healthy.
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Yep, this defence is special and you can't say that about
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Buffalo. You can't say that.
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About Do you have an opinion on the game or are you going to
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make that part of your pick I. Won't I would lead in Kansas
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City. I would, but it's just a lean.
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That's a that's a heck of a late afternoon time slot game.
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What's it going up against? It has to be one of the few in
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that in that 320. 5 So there's just three games.
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Yeah, there's there's two other games that are.
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PU yes. Jaguars, Raiders and Saints
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Rams. Good God.
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So if you're in the Las Vegas market, obviously you're stuck
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with that and likewise with LA, the Saints and the Rams.
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But yeah, So what do we get off? That'll be our late game on on
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CBS is they have the double header.
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Fox has to give us Minnesota Detroit, right?
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Fox single in our market. Now this is not all markets, so
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we will help out the whole state of Iowa.
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It's not, so it's not. Across the board?
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Not across the board. In Des Moines, Cedar Rapids and
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Quad Cities markets. You will be served up Carolina
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Green Bay. Come on while our friends, are
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you kidding me out? West in Sioux City they will be
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Minnesota Detroit along with my friends up in North Central Iowa
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also will get Minnesota Detroit. Which is the game that the
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entire state should be. Getting yes, absolutely.
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What? What?
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What am I missing? I don't know.
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Two division teams, Vikings, Packers.
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We've talked about it before. It's splitting hairs, at least
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in this market. That's a miss.
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That's a miss. That's a miss.
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Fox 17 here. Fox 2848 over in Cedar Rapids
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and the Quad Cities. I don't know who their Fox
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affiliate is. Regardless, I'm.
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La Porta, Jack Campbell, David Montgomery are all in that game.
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Who am I missing And? There are some fringe Lions fans
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around too, but they're. So are there any Carolina fans?
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No, the answer is. Absolutely not.
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It's a divisional Game Boy that's a swing and a missed Fox,
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that's a big swing. If I knew who was decision, I'd
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call him. Out used to be Wilson, right?
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Yeah, used to be. We used to yell at that guy all
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the time. I don't know who it is now, but
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man oh man, get your head out of you assuming that it was your
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choice. Now you might have been force
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fed right, but if you had to ultimately make the call let
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somebody else do it because you're embarrassing yourself
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that's ridiculous. Caroline and green now look I'm
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not I'm going to turn on my YouTube TV and watch it so we
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will get the game. But for of those that don't you
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should have Minnesota, Detroit. Here's the bad news.
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We don't have it on KXNO this week on Sunday because we've got
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wild hockey coming up at 2:45. So the conflict we will drop the
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puck. So sports bars Here's.
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A A potential swing and a miss in our market.
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For what? What week?
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For this one for the early window on CBS.
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OK, Yeah, we didn't do that, did we?
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So we will be served up here in the.
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Way. Here are the choices, right
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Bears. Bengals, Chargers, Titans.
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No chance. No chance.
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Falcons, Patriots. No way.
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Good game, though. Maybe Niners, Giants, Colts,
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Steelers. So if there's one local tie,
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it's the Bears and it's the Bengals, and that's probably
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what we're getting. Eastern Iowa will.
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Or Cedar Rapids Quad Cities markets in Eastern Iowa.
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Yes, you will get that here. So if they're picking the best
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game, it's I don't like this, it's called Steelers.
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Yes, and that's what we'll be getting.
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Yeah. Bad work.
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Yeah. KCCI Reister, you had to talk to
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your bosses. You had a chance to show the
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bears. Change it.
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Yeah. Fix it.
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Come on. I know it's not Roy Reister's
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choice, but no, Scott, you're getting a text.
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But what's the kids name that moved Jeff to Dubaugh?
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Maybe he was in charge and they forgot.
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Yes, been working for like 2 weeks.
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You can't put this one on him. No, I'm.
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Just saying maybe he was getting the first side that was part of
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his duties. And since he's low, I'll just
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take whatever you want. I'm surprised by that.
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I have two. I think we had a couple of
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misses here in the local market. All right, Arizona State and
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Iowa State. How does Arizona State look?
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They're they defending conference champions and they
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had a wonderful running back in scataboo who was just
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otherworldly at the college game, right?
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Obviously Sam Levitt. Tyson did not play last year.
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I don't think he'll play tomorrow.
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Levitt being out. If Iowa State doesn't win this
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football game tomorrow, then red flag should go up.
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Oh, no doubt. Then they're nowhere good, as
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good as even Cyclone Nation believed that they were.
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I. Look at this game and what's a
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realistic game plan for Arizona State?
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I mean, I, I think they're going guys, they're running back.
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Brown and I like, you know, the army trains for two.
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He's decent as a #2 we know Sims can run.
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We go old school here. This is zone read left, right up
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the middle. I mean, you're going triple
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option. Let's Sims try and beat you with
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his arm. He won't.
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I think the game plan for Arizona State is we got to run
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the football 4550 times that. That's what we're going to do.
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We're going to heat clock. We're going to go that
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direction. That has to be the path for
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Arizona State and that's the only path because Jeff Sims
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throwing the football is not a path.
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No, it's a path for interceptions.
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It's a path for awful throws. That's the path that you get
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with Sims as a QB throwing the ball, as a runner.
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He is dangerous. So lean into that.
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That's the game plan. Play up front him.
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To throw the ball, make him throw the.
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Ball and make Dominic Orange have to sit out there and if
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he's going to play and if he's he's going to go well, he can't
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go for 22 snaps. We're going to run the ball at
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you all day long and we'll see how depleted Dominic Orange is.
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If he's able to go what that's going to look like that front
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and all those linebackers and on and on and on.
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That has to be the game plan. Will it do it?
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Who knows, but I think that's the only path for Arizona State.
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This feels like a get right. It really does.
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I mean, it's it's setting up very well for them.
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Get bowl eligibility, then you know what, let the chips fall
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where they may. I think it's a the longest of
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long shots that there's still a potential to get back to the
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conference game, championship game, but all you can do is win
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the ones in front of me. I know it's cliche, but start
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tomorrow. Start tomorrow and John Walters,
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more on Iowa State coming up. We'll get to Tom Cacard on the
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Hawks as they head into their bye week.
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Was there an injury, Trent, that you're aware of with Iowa that
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that this is a bye week that you know, might get whoever this
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person might be back on the field, 'cause I'm racking my
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brain, I don't know. I think Bo Stevens, who left
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early in the day. He did leave early now what you
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mentioned. He did come back apparently, but
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limited getting him. You know, dunkers been banged up
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throughout the year. The offensive line really
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outside of Lauke and Jones, I think has been pretty banged up
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throughout the course of this year.
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So those would be the two big ones.
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So Stevens and dunker up front. But Stevens.
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Was the only one that actually missed time out of that, right?
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And like you said, he did get back in the game.
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Running back wise, they look to be good there got to see jazzy
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and Patterson back out there and another I guess week to men now
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for that yes and now Vanderzee goes from playing what was it 25
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snaps in the game? Now I'm doubling or making 45.
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I think that's another way to get there for.
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Gronowski just to have a week off.
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Vanami didn't start the game. That's right.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Michael Burt got his first career start at the tight end
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position. He large has been banged up too,
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so there are a number of guys that have not debilitating that
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they're going to be. Out, but maybe not difference
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makers, right? Just depth pieces.
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What's what's Brevin Doll's status?
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He's been in and out. He was on kickoff team, had to
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sit out, didn't travel. He's he's been really banked up
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and he's been that forgotten guy in that running.
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Back he has, hasn't he? As we see in the ascension of
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Xavier Williams, of course, what we've seen out of McNeil in the
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little glimpses that we've got, has he?
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Played in four games yet, by the way.
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Well, doll's already, no? Mcdeal.
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McNeil. I think so, yeah.
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I think he's played, yeah. Everyone, maybe except for one.
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So his red shirt has been burned.
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All right, John Walters, he'll join us next.
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More on Iowa State. We'll get into the football.
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We'll get into basketball with John.
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Miller and Condon talking sports with you on Des Moines sports
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I'm Miller Cohn to 1225, the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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Wherever you're listening in the state of Iowa, grateful that you
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are, Trent and I take you until 2:00.
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Let's get John Walters, the voice of Iowa State.
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He'll be in the booth tomorrow, noon kickoff on the Iowa State
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Radio Network. They'll get underway, I believe,
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at 10:00. AM I right, John Walters?
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You're correct. It's going to be a little bit
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different for us. Not used to the new picks, but I
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I kind of like. It I do too.
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I'm with you. Gives us a little bit different
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look with noon kickoff speaking a different look.
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Arizona State's going to have a different look as opposed to the
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team that you saw last year at the in the in the conference
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championship game. Obviously, Scatterbooth moved
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on, but Sam Leavitt, such a heck of a quarterback, such a
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terrific competitor, and now out for the year, going to be a
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different Arizona State team that makes the way to Ames,
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John. Yeah, I would have probably
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picked them to win the Big 12 Conference, you know, going into
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the season, based on Scataboo being a huge loss, no question
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about that. But they brought back pretty
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much everybody else and a lot of talent on both sides of the
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ball. And you know, they're still
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having a Goodyear, but obviously the injuries have hit them just
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like they've hit Iowa State. And you know, for Levitt and
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then maybe Tyson to be out tomorrow, we'll see on Tyson.
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But those are those are your best players, you know, and
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that's when it's hard. And obviously for Iowa State,
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it's been their best players. You know, I mean, John says
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Williams and Jeremiah Cooper reach preseason all Big 12
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selections and Dom Orange has been in and out of the lineup.
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He was a preseason all Big 12 pick, but he played real well
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last week. But, you know, both teams have
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been hit hard by injuries. Both are still having pretty
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good years. Not maybe the year they had
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hoped for in terms of competing for the Big 12 championship.
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But actually, Arizona State's still very much in it because
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they're such schedule softens and they could certainly get
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into a tiebreaker. And so I'm sure they still feel
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like they have a pretty good shot.
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And I was statements win out and then hope that there's carnage
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that happens. And in this league you just
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never know as week to week it is a different kind of league.
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You know, going through this now for the second year with the
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team team league, the newbies in there, you got a nationwide
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conference that goes along with it and and all these teams kind
19:31
of playing on the same level. Is is it been enjoyable for you
19:34
in just this week to week, not just watching Iowa State, but
19:37
seeing what's happening in this conference football wise?
19:39
Is this is as wide open and as entertaining of a race year
19:43
after year as as maybe we get an old college football.
19:46
No, I think that's true. It it is the most entertaining
19:49
and unpredictable conference thing, you know, still here we
19:52
are in November, right? And almost, and you can still
19:56
throw a blanket over 5 or 6 teams and say they got a chance
19:59
to get to the Big 12 championship game, a legitimate
20:01
chance. And so, yeah, it's fun when it's
20:04
wide open and a great race. And, you know, even a team like
20:09
TCU that you know, probably isn't going to get there, that
20:12
they are on any day capable of rising up and beating somebody.
20:15
And there's so many teams in this league that are in that
20:18
category and so. I love it.
20:21
I do think it's very entertaining so many close games
20:25
that come right down to the final minutes.
20:27
And it is one of those leagues. I call it the you know, don't
20:32
put down your remote league because you know you're sitting
20:35
there, you come across one of these games and you're usually
20:38
going to stop right there when you're channel surfing because
20:41
there's usually some drama and some entry coming down the
20:43
stretch these games and I really enjoy that.
20:45
I love watching all the games across the league and as you
20:48
mentioned with the time zones, you know you you can watch it
20:50
from the minute you wake up in the morning.
20:52
So you go to bed at night and and be entertained by Big 12
20:55
football and I think it is entertaining.
20:57
Will McLaughlin, John, the start that he was having gets BYU is
21:00
unfortunate. He got a little bit banged up
21:02
and now I'm not sure whether he'll play or not tomorrow.
21:05
But boy, McLaughlin was art to a start against BYUABYU team that
21:09
struggled early, got it going late.
21:10
But McLaughlin may be a big reason for those early
21:13
struggles. He was all over the field when
21:14
he was in there. He was and and we've been
21:17
waiting to see that Will McLaughlin, you know, and, and
21:20
to get that kind of pass rush and to have a couple sacks
21:24
within a few minutes, that was just awesome and unfortunately
21:27
got hurt on the second stack. Hopefully he'll be able to get
21:30
out there and play tomorrow because he really does bring
21:32
something to the table. He's a dynamic player that can
21:35
get to the quarterback and create some havoc.
21:37
And I was state needs to be able to create more havoc with her
21:40
defense. And obviously you're trying to,
21:42
you know, bandage up some of the spots on the back end where
21:45
you've got to play really, really the young guys.
21:47
But you know, if you can get to the quarterback and get a little
21:49
bit of pressure, it certainly opens up the possibility of
21:52
creating a turnover. And something I was states
21:54
struggled to do, they've only forced 1 turnover in the last
21:57
three games. And I think they've got to get
21:58
back to, you know, forcing one or two a game.
22:01
It really would give their offense a short field and take
22:05
some pressure off them if the defense is able to force some
22:07
turnover. So I'm hopeful that I would say
22:10
will be able to force a turnover to tomorrow against them and
22:14
Arizona State. We talked about it earlier,
22:16
they're going to run the football.
22:17
How about the Iowa State running game, the return of Carson
22:19
Hansen? You know, him and Abu are just
22:22
completely different type of guys.
22:23
I mean, the way that they run, the way that they're built, you
22:25
got the East West, it's the Thunder lightning and we've seen
22:28
that plenty of times in the past.
22:29
Just getting Hansen back there, not just what a good running
22:31
back he is, but having that compliment to Abu, Sama Reelix
22:35
feels like it. It's taking this run game to
22:36
another level. I love where the Iowa state-run
22:39
game is right now, and that sounds funny to say with a
22:42
three-game losing streak, but in those three games I would say
22:45
it's averaged 196 rushing yards a game.
22:47
So that hasn't been the problem. And Abu Sama is running it with
22:51
authority. Carson Hansen's running it with
22:53
authority in the offensive line is really run blocking better
22:57
than we've seen in many years. And I think Ryan Clinton's done
23:00
a tremendous job with that group and they're a veteran group.
23:03
You know, they've got 3 seniors on that offensive line and so
23:07
it's not a total shock. They're doing some good things.
23:10
But you know, Trevor Bohr, I think that guard really has made
23:14
a difference since he came back from injury in that rush
23:17
offense. And, and that's something that
23:20
you can kind of hang your hat on.
23:21
So I'm real hopeful that Iowa State will be able to run the
23:23
football well tomorrow. I take a little pressure off
23:25
Rocco back and ball control a little bit.
23:29
I think Arizona State, as you mentioned, is going to be trying
23:31
to do the exact same thing. Sims has thrown 31 passes,
23:35
touchdown passes in his career. So it's not like he's he can't
23:38
throw and he has a ton of experience, but he's definitely
23:42
a run first type of thought as far as the defensive
23:44
coordinator. I think John Haycock will look
23:46
at him as a run first threat. And so, you know, can Iowa State
23:50
slow that run game down? They have a very good running
23:52
back in Brown. You know what?
23:54
Maybe hold him under 150 yards rushing like he did against BYU.
23:57
I thought Iowa State did a ton of things well against BYU and
24:01
really came out of the Kate great.
24:02
And I thought they were well on their way to a terrific win.
24:05
But you can't lose the turnover battle for nothing again
24:08
tomorrow and and expect to win. So that's really what it comes
24:11
down to. But I think the run game helps
24:13
you in that effort to ball control a little bit.
24:15
John Walters is our guest. John, I don't want to put you on
24:18
the spot. I'm going to ask you this.
24:19
BYU and Cincinnati, they're both 5 and O Iowa State has played
24:23
both of them. Of the two, is there one that's
24:26
more likely to win a Big 12 championship?
24:28
Bachmeier looked unbelievable. Sores being been great.
24:32
Where? Where are you as far as the two
24:33
unbeaten teams in the conference?
24:37
Yeah, they're they're definitely in contention along with Texas
24:39
Tech and and a handful of other teams to certainly Houston has
24:43
been playing great too. I think if I had to pick between
24:48
those two, I'd pick BYU over Cincinnati, but not by its own.
24:52
Cincinnati's really kind of won me over here in the last few
24:54
weeks. I, when I was state lost to him.
24:57
I wasn't sure that they were that great, but they've proven
25:01
to have done a really good job since then and they continue to
25:05
run the football really well. Sorsby's having a great season,
25:09
but I like that BYU team and I think Kwani Sataki really has
25:13
something going there. And they seem to be one of those
25:16
teams that takes advantage of others mistakes and that's what
25:19
they did. I mean, you know, I would say
25:21
made the mistakes, but BYU was there to take advantage of it
25:24
each time and they won points off turnover 17.
25:26
Nothing, you know, in a 14 point win, that's a pretty big deal.
25:29
So I like the way BIBYU has kind of been opportunistic.
25:33
I like their defense, and Bachmeier has proven to be a
25:36
really good. I mean, what he's doing as a
25:39
freshman quarterback is really, really impressive.
25:41
Yeah, he's going to be, he's going to be a handful, John, in
25:43
this conference in the years ahead.
25:45
John, we're at the crossover season.
25:47
Love this time of year. College basketball officially
25:49
starts next week. Couple of exhibition games
25:52
already under the belt for the Cyclone men.
25:55
It's a busy time. I know for you there's sometimes
25:57
that you have to miss games because of what's going on a
25:59
football, basketball wise, but you look at this group but a lot
26:03
of intriguing freshmen, Phil said.
26:05
A little bit. Tori has kind of been the talk
26:06
here of these last couple of weeks, but he's not alone.
26:09
Tell us a little bit about those youngsters and what you've
26:11
learned here as they get ready for the start of the year.
26:14
Yeah, I really encouraged by the freshman.
26:16
You know, I know Jamari and Bateman has struggled.
26:18
He's over 7 from the floor and the two exhibitions, but he'll
26:21
break out of it. I mean, I've seen too many
26:22
practices where he's been really good to think that he won't be
26:26
good. Now.
26:26
It might take a little while, but Torre has been just
26:29
tremendous and, you know, he's such a aggressive defender.
26:33
And I think when you get Torre and Lipsy and Bateman all in
26:38
there, I think Iowa State's going to be able to create a lot
26:41
of turnovers. They had 14 steals against
26:43
Northwestern and you know, the offense isn't perfect, but if
26:48
you can get 10 or 12 points a game off run outs from that
26:51
defense, it really puts you in a good spot.
26:53
So I think this is going to be one of those kind of typical TJ
26:56
Otzelberger teams that's really going to ball pressure and get
26:59
out and transition and run. They're going to be a lot of fun
27:02
to watch and, and I think those freshmen are going to be a big
27:04
part of it. Dominique Dominic has played a
27:07
he is going to be a very good player at Iowa State and he's
27:12
just very talented around the basket, does a lot of really
27:15
good things. And I think over the course of
27:17
the season you'll see his role increase and he's going to be a
27:20
very good player this year. But it'll probably take a little
27:22
while for both him and Bateman to really make a huge
27:25
contribution. Love what Dominic Nelson did the
27:28
other day, really looked good and he's an energy guy, you
27:32
know, and you love having those energy guys off the bench.
27:34
I've State had that with Rob Jones.
27:37
They headed in a different way with Curtis Jones and I think
27:40
they found another energy guy off the bench, Dominic Nelson.
27:42
So I like this team a lot and I I think it's going to be a lot
27:46
of fun to watch. They're not going to be perfect,
27:48
but there might be a bump in the road along the way.
27:51
But that's not not unusual with the schedule they're going to
27:55
face. They're going to face some
27:55
really good teams out of Vegas. They're going to face
27:58
Mississippi State here in about a week.
28:00
So they'll get tested plenty and I think they'll be ready for it.
28:04
I'm excited about this season. Vegas is Saint John's and
28:07
Creighton correct? Most of the two we know for
28:10
sure. The third team, that'll probably
28:11
be a pretty good team. There's eighteen teams out there
28:15
and they're all pretty good. So you're going to get 3 really
28:18
impressive games out in Vegas, plus Iowa, plus, you know,
28:21
Mississippi State plus Purdue. So it's a good non conference.
28:25
Schedule, I'll see. Plus Purdue.
28:28
Yeah, that Dick gets a little. Deep there, yeah.
28:32
Good stuff, John. Thanks for doing this.
28:33
Appreciate it. John Walters, we'll talk to you
28:35
down the road. Thanks, John.
28:37
Thanks guys. And I, I apologize on the behalf
28:40
of the people of Story County for getting in the left lane.
28:45
See you later. Goodbye.
28:47
Take care of John. That's funny.
28:49
Good for John. Or from a few people on that
28:51
one. Apparently, you're not alone for
28:52
your Anthony. Brother, I'm telling you, they
28:54
think they own the left lane. Get the hell over.
28:58
That's funny. Well done, John Walters, and
29:01
more importantly, thank you for listening.
29:03
We'll take your time out. Tom Caker will join us next.
29:05
We'll switch from the clones to the Hawks as they get there by
29:08
week. Oregon's off this week, too.
29:11
Ducks are off, yes. Ducks are off, too.
29:14
Oh, it's a big spot. Drinks Hawk conversation next.
29:18
Miller and Condon talking sports with you on the Iowa Sports
29:21
Radio Network. I'm Miller Condon.
29:25
Welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network.
29:28
Trent and Ken with you until 2. Bama.
29:30
Bob, Trent and I will go around college football.
29:32
Kick off the one O clock hour. Mike Palm from the Circus Sports
29:36
out in Las Vegas joins us at 1:30.
29:38
Our picks. Got any extra college games?
29:42
Always. Can I borrow 1?
29:44
Maybe because I but but we're still going head to head.
29:47
You're worried about those buffoons in the after us.
29:49
I'm I'm worried about tracking you down.
29:52
Well, that's well, well and good.
29:53
I just, I, I'm all for Friday. I've not won a Friday night game
29:59
and the only game I've got, I kind of like North Carolina
30:02
tonight. Do you defense is improving?
30:04
That's exactly where I'm going, but I'm not sure I'm going to
30:06
end up there. Anyways, let's talk to Tom
30:08
Caker, hawkeyereport.com Hawks off this week.
30:12
Tom Trenton, Ken, thank you for coming on.
30:14
Before we get into football and other topics, etcetera, somebody
30:18
called me during a break, asked me to ask you.
30:20
So I will get this out of the Ray White now, right now,
30:22
because I don't want to forget Lewis and Bourne when it comes
30:26
to women's basketball recruiting.
30:27
Where is Jan Jensen and company on Lewis and Bourne?
30:31
Are they any of them close? Do you feel better about one
30:34
than the other? Where are you?
30:37
Probably feel better about Jennica Lewis than I do Jorn,
30:41
but Jorn's still taking. Bjorn OK, Thank you.
30:44
Yes, yes, she's still taking visits and Jennica was in last
30:51
weekend and I I've always felt like she's going to end up in
30:54
Iowa City. I think it's Iowa and Notre Dame
30:56
right now for her. Those soon be the top 2.
31:02
But Bjorn's just, you know, it's hard to read her because she's
31:07
still taking visits. So but I this is my gut feel but
31:12
they end up with both yes. I don't think they'll miss on
31:17
both though, if that makes sense.
31:19
Does make sense, no doubt. You know, Ken, post something
31:22
earlier. I want to get your perspective
31:24
by you're playing such good football.
31:25
Probably doesn't come at the most opportune time, but some
31:28
guys banged up. We saw both Stevens leave the
31:30
game. I know dunker's kind of been
31:32
dealing with some things throughout the course of the
31:33
year injury wise. Is there anybody else health
31:36
wise getting the back and maybe this bye week does come at a
31:39
good time. I'll force some guys that are
31:41
injured. Any names pop into your head?
31:44
You know, the one thing that's interesting, interesting to me
31:47
is when Jaden Harrell gets fully healthy and I, I don't think
31:54
he's that far away from being fully healthy and he may be
31:56
fully healthy by next week. Does he get his job?
32:00
Back or or or is. Or is Wally Pip in in play?
32:05
You know, and it's perfect. That's for us old people.
32:10
We're making Wally Pip references.
32:11
Yeah. Montgomery's not Lou Gehrig.
32:14
No, but. Feels like he has been an
32:16
upgrade from what we've seen from Harold.
32:17
Yeah, yeah. And.
32:19
What about Cam bug? Well, and the defense is playing
32:21
better. Tom, I think the team is
32:25
improving. I really do.
32:26
And it's a fair team. So here we are.
32:30
I would have, you know, middle of September, somebody was look,
32:33
the Hawks just have everything still in front of him when we
32:35
turn to calendar November. I said you're nuts.
32:38
There's no way in hell this team, this group, you mean to
32:41
tell me no way. Well, I was wrong or would have
32:43
been wrong, Tom, because they're still look, the USC game is
32:47
going to be difficult, right? I'm not saying it's going to
32:49
happen, but it's still there in front of them and the team, as
32:52
you mentioned, the defense getting better.
32:54
I think the entire team is getting better, Tom.
32:58
I do too. I think they're just they're
33:00
it's a classic parents team. This team reminds me so much of
33:05
minus, you know, heaven if they would have had Caleb Johnson to
33:09
fill in the Sean Green role reminds me so much of that O
33:13
eight team where you had just a lot of new guys that were in
33:16
different roles and, you know, they kind of stumbled out of the
33:20
gate and had a couple losses and and then they by by the middle
33:27
of the year and on the way to the end, they were playing as
33:30
well as anybody in the country that, you know, they were just
33:33
really playing at a high level. And it almost feels like this
33:37
team is a mirror image of that in some ways, that they've just,
33:41
they figured things out, they've come together, they've
33:43
coalesced, and now they're really who are playing their
33:48
best ball right now. Playing at a high level Oregon
33:51
will come to town. We'll talk more about that game
33:53
next week but I mentioned it yesterday one of the most
33:56
befuddling controversies I've ever seen from apparently a very
33:59
thin skinned fan base out there in the Pacific Northwest upset
34:03
it Phil Parker's comments saying that they're well funded to
34:06
equate this to what Mike Gundy was talking about before the
34:09
game against Oklahoma State is just absolutely crazy.
34:12
You deal with everybody in your guys's network at on three.
34:15
Are Oregon people just that dumb?
34:16
Are they that weird? What's going down there?
34:18
With the Ducks, I think some other places have made that
34:22
comment or other coaches or somebody's made some other
34:26
comments to them. And so they've gotten
34:27
extraordinarily thin skinned about it.
34:31
And you know, it's it's interesting.
34:35
Just I was like, that's what you're going to get upset about.
34:38
You know, after he said all kinds of glowing things about
34:44
about the Ducks and about the program and you know, kind of
34:47
started out Dan Lanning and the whole bit.
34:50
I mean, he's going to and they are well funded.
34:53
Guess what? And guess what, if if Iowa was
34:57
in that situation where they had we're well funded like that,
35:02
Iowa fans will be saying you're damn right we are.
35:05
We're proud of it and we're happy about it.
35:07
We love, we love our Phil Knight or whoever who it would have
35:10
been that that did that. You know, why not?
35:14
That's it's part of the game. And they look like it's an
35:16
insult, like, oh, we're not good.
35:19
We're just well funded now. You got your, you can afford to
35:22
get good players and that's part of the game.
35:26
Who's the best team in the Big 10?
35:27
Tom, Are you convinced it's Ohio State?
35:29
I'm. Not really.
35:33
I'm not either. I'm done doubting Signeti.
35:35
Yeah, me too. He's the bully.
35:38
Yep. You know, he's just.
35:41
He is, yeah. He just, he goes out and just
35:48
demolishes everything in front of him.
35:50
Yeah. And I was giving him the best
35:52
game. Iowa should have beat.
35:53
Yes. Yes, let's be honest.
35:55
They should have beaten them. If Gronowski doesn't get hurt,
35:58
they probably win that game. Right.
36:00
And screen pass. Who's now your #3 quarterback,
36:05
right? Exactly.
36:07
Yeah, because, you know, and Tim Lester said it after the bye
36:10
week, that's a touchdown if he believes it.
36:13
Because Logan Jones and and one of his running mates, one of his
36:17
other offensive lineman, were clearing the path.
36:19
They were looking for somebody to block and there wasn't
36:21
anybody. Yeah, it was that and and I'm
36:24
sure look at the all 22 where where he could see what was in
36:28
front of that play and there was nothing there.
36:33
Nothing apparently. And and yeah, just think about
36:37
that for a second where Iowa would be.
36:39
Unbeaten in the Big 10, yes. And we'd be having a lot
36:43
different conversation, Tom, out of that group.
36:45
Iowa, we know, has to run the table to be a playoff team.
36:48
Michigan has to run the table. That means beating Ohio State at
36:51
the end of the year. USC has to run the table.
36:53
It starts this week against Nebraska, beating Iowa and of
36:56
course, the UCLA at the end. Washington still has a path
36:59
here. Of that group teams Washington,
37:01
USC, Michigan, Iowa who do give the best chance of running the
37:05
table and becoming potentially that 4th College Football
37:08
Playoff team. A great question.
37:11
Have to look at the schedules. I know USC has to play Oregon
37:14
yet, too, I think. So that's a that's a stumbling
37:18
block for them. Perhaps, you know, it might be
37:22
Michigan. Just do it again.
37:26
Because they live rent free in the heads of the folks in
37:30
Columbus right now. And there's I don't care what
37:34
the Ryan Day can can prance around all he wants.
37:37
It's, it's rent free right now there.
37:41
So yeah, I, I would guess Michigan probably got the best
37:44
shot of running the table and doing Iowa just because of the
37:49
history of lack of success on the on the West Coast.
37:53
You know, it's hard to hard to envision that, but it wouldn't
37:57
surprise me because you know what the Achilles heel of that,
38:00
of that USC team is, is physical football.
38:05
And that's been kind of their bugaboo.
38:07
That's what Notre Dame did to them.
38:09
They got physical wisdom. And so we'll we'll see, We'll
38:13
see. Got to play the games.
38:15
But yeah, that's what I would. I would, I would probably get
38:20
Michigan. Do you, do you like USC or
38:22
Nebraska game? Do you have a feel for that one
38:24
tomorrow? Hawks will see both of them in
38:25
the next few weeks. I know I've got that.
38:28
I was. I told somebody this morning I
38:30
was like, I'm pretty excited to watch that game just because I
38:34
always got both of them the next month.
38:36
And so I can get a feel for both teams.
38:38
I think USC is going to beat them.
38:41
I just, I don't think Nebraska is any good.
38:43
I think they're soft football team and and I think Lincoln
38:47
Riley's a better coach than that rule.
38:49
And I think there's going to be some Nebraska fans probably
38:52
complaining on Saturday night, Sunday morning about we extended
38:57
this guy well. We can definitely hear that, no
39:01
doubt. Hey, Tom, over to basketball.
39:03
It'll start officially next week.
39:05
Got a first look last night, not last night at the women's team
39:08
in their exhibition win on the men's side.
39:11
Pretty soft schedule to open things up.
39:13
Take us back to a week ago, they take on Texas Tech and that
39:16
scrimmage sounds like I will. Lost by about 10 not shooting
39:19
the ball very well in the two exhibition games.
39:22
They're not you know, I 4 of 27 in the first one against Slew
39:30
and then I know they were one of fourteen in the first half
39:33
against Texas Tech. Now Texas Tech's really good.
39:38
We should qualify things by saying that that they are a
39:41
really good top 10 ish team in college basketball this year.
39:46
So it's not like they lost to a bad team and that, and I heard
39:50
it was really competitive, but I was started out shooting poorly
39:54
and, and started slow and, and just could never catch up, so to
40:00
speak. So yeah, I, I think it's got to
40:05
be a concern going into the season how this team shoots the
40:07
basketball because you've got in the game today.
40:10
I don't care who you are, you got to shoot, you got to make
40:12
shots from the outside. That's just part of the game.
40:15
And so they've got to, they got to figure this out and watch,
40:20
they'll come out against. Bobby MO on Tuesday night and
40:23
probably go 10 of their first 12 and roll, you know, just that's
40:28
just how this game works, but I'm anxious just to see him.
40:32
I just really am. I just want to see what this
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looks like and get a feel for this team because right now
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we're kind of fine blind. You know, we think we know, but
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we don't. We don't.
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And it's, you know, in McCollum. He even said I didn't know how
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it was going to work bringing 4 guys over from Northwest
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Missouri State last year and the Drake and worked out well.
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And he's like, hey, I'm just going to double down in some
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ways on it and bring 6 this time because I feel like it'll work.
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OK. We're going to find out, you
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know, and if it works, boy, it's going to be fun.
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If it doesn't, then you got a reset.
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You really got to reset. Tom Caker at hawkeyereport.com.
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Tom, enjoy your weekend off. We will speak with you next
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Friday. Thanks for everything, Tom, as
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always. OK.
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Thanks guys. Hawkeyereport.com for Tom Caker,
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part of on three media Bama. Bob Trent and I will take a look
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at college football. We come back Mike Palm still to
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come, our picks as well. Miller and Condon talking sports
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