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The Late Debate | 1 July · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Welcome the Late Debate.
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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining us on the Late Debate. I'm
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Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Liz Storer and Caleb Bond coming up.
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Speaker 2: You've heard of people having a swear jar. Will some
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Speaker 2: woman's come up with a misgender jar and being with her?
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Speaker 2: I think that relationship will last long. We'll talk about
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Speaker 2: that a little later and show you the jar. Plus
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Speaker 2: when we look at the papers, big tech companies have
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Speaker 2: been given six months to come up with a way
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Speaker 2: of preventing children from accessing pawn online or else. And
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Speaker 2: a paramedic crashes his ambulance after an eighteen hour shift.
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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the pressure on our emergency services people
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Speaker 2: a little later as well. But first, the Victorian government
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Speaker 2: has launched a new campaign lecturing women on the need
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Speaker 2: to be nicer to transgendered women. Now, the advertisement ostensibly
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Speaker 2: is about tackling discrimination against transgender people, but it's a
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Speaker 2: fact to tell women that they need to be responsible
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Speaker 2: for making men feel safe and included.
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Speaker 3: Let's play a little bit of that commercial.
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Speaker 2: I want to start with you, what did you think
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Speaker 2: when you saw that commercial. You've got a woman in
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Speaker 2: an elevator who obviously feels threatened by clearly a biological
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Speaker 2: man who.
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Speaker 3: Towering over her, and she walks out.
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Speaker 2: Apparently it's wrong for a woman to go with her
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Speaker 2: instincts for personal safety.
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Speaker 4: I can say I found this so infuriating because if
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Speaker 4: the Victorian government wanted to do an honest version of.
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Speaker 5: This ad, they would have had a mother and her.
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Speaker 4: Little daughter in the bathrooms looking up and realizing there
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Speaker 4: was a man standing there in a dress. If they
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Speaker 4: wanted to make an honest version of this, they would
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Speaker 4: have showed the women who have been injured because they
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Speaker 4: were involved in this. No, no, we have to pretend
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Speaker 4: that this man is a woman because he's playing on
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Speaker 4: our team.
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Speaker 5: Those are the kinds of things that would have been
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Speaker 5: included in this ad.
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Speaker 4: I do not believe for a single second in twenty
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Speaker 4: twenty four that people are treating transgender people in their
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Speaker 4: everyday lives. You're at the supermarket, say, any different than
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Speaker 4: anybody else.
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Speaker 5: The only friction.
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Speaker 4: That arises when it comes to trans people and trans
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Speaker 4: rites is when you are asking women to give up ground,
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Speaker 4: whether that's our change rooms, sports, making us basically deny
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Speaker 4: our god given instincts and just go.
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Speaker 5: Don't go on your gut feeling.
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Speaker 4: Here, ladies, you give up your rights for a handful
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Speaker 4: of deluded men.
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Speaker 5: That is what that ad is essentially saying.
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's never blokes who have their rights encroached on.
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Speaker 5: It's always women. And like I say, if.
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Speaker 4: They were honest, how about the scenario where a man
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Speaker 4: rocks up to kindergarten to pick up his five year
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Speaker 4: old and one of the teachers is dressed in drag.
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Speaker 4: Those are the situations in which there is a friction
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Speaker 4: in society. I believe that's a healthy friction. It should
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Speaker 4: not be discouraged. And who is the government to tell
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Speaker 4: us who to like, who to dislike, who to distrust?
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Speaker 5: We saw this during the pandemic. The government loves to
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Speaker 5: tell you.
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Speaker 4: How you should be thinking or feeling about certain people.
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Speaker 4: Ninety nine times nine is not even a thing. Ninety
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Speaker 4: nine point nine percent of the time they are completely.
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Speaker 5: Wrong, and people or to go with their gut instincts.
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Speaker 4: I don't care how you dressed. If you want to
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Speaker 4: wear a dress, power to you. And it depends on
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Speaker 4: the context and the vibe I'm getting off you at
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Speaker 4: any given point in time, which will dictate how I
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Speaker 4: behave toward.
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Speaker 6: Anyone, and what problem does the Victorian government think they're
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Speaker 6: actually solving here, Like transgender people make up such a
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Speaker 6: small portion of the population that they think it is
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Speaker 6: worth spending shed loads of money.
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Speaker 5: Making out and love to know how to say that.
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Speaker 6: You know you must treat a certain class of person
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Speaker 6: in a particular way. And of course at the end
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Speaker 6: they show the example of the transgender woman going to
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Speaker 6: play the sport by which the state government is telling
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Speaker 6: you that if you feel uncomfortable about a biological male
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Speaker 6: playing against you on the football field or playing with
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Speaker 6: you on the football field, maybe if it's on your team,
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Speaker 6: you don't mind so much because it might give you
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Speaker 6: an advantage.
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Speaker 1: So we're all all fine and dandy there.
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Speaker 6: But if you are on the football field with a
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Speaker 6: biological man as a woman and you feel uncomfortable about that,
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Speaker 6: that there is something wrong with you that you must
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Speaker 6: be re educated. And of course the tenor of the
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Speaker 6: advertisement is the unsaid says a lot right.
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Speaker 1: And people make conscious or.
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Speaker 6: Unconscious decisions all the time that perhaps follow along those lines.
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Speaker 1: And so let's say, as a.
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Speaker 6: Man, I am walking on a footpath at night and
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Speaker 6: a woman crosses the road to walk on the other
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Speaker 6: side of the road because she's conscious of the fact
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Speaker 6: that she's on her own and I am there as
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Speaker 6: a man. Now, the unsaid there is that I'm a
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Speaker 6: potential rapist, and I know I'm not a potential rapist,
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Speaker 6: but we acknowledge that she's done it for her own
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Speaker 6: safety because she felt uncomfortable. And so what the state
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Speaker 6: government is saying here is that if you feel uncomfortable
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Speaker 6: in a situation and you make a decision for yourself,
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Speaker 6: that is a bad thing. That the unsaid that you
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Speaker 6: are saying is a bad thing. Well, in most situations,
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Speaker 6: we just acknowledge that, you know, sure that person was uncomfortable.
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Speaker 6: I'll just get on with my day.
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Speaker 2: And as Liz said, no one argues that people shouldn't
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Speaker 2: be allowed to live their lives the way that they
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Speaker 2: want to live, the way they feel comfortable. And genderness
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Speaker 2: for her for a very small percentage of the population,
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Speaker 2: but it's a very real thing, and they deserve our
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Speaker 2: understanding and our respect. But this goes beyond that, and
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Speaker 2: it starts to push people to accept things they not
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Speaker 2: i e. Biological men and women's sports. You notice doesn't
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Speaker 2: show any tackles, no shows the team that she's part
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Speaker 2: of being really happy, but I'm not so sure the
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Speaker 2: team we're all that excited, especially when they're being cut
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Speaker 2: off by ambulances.
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Speaker 5: The whole ad.
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Speaker 4: Is about think about how you're making a trans person
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Speaker 4: feel well. That goes both ways, doesn't it, Because these
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Speaker 4: men donny address and expecting me to come to the
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Speaker 4: party and be.
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Speaker 5: Like, oh, you're one of us. No you're not.
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Speaker 4: You don't care about how I'm feeling. I'm really uncomfortable
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Speaker 4: because you're in my bathroom. Thankfully that hasn't happened yet,
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Speaker 4: because God only knows what would transpire in that bathroom.
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Speaker 4: But it doesn't go both ways. Everyone's being taught no,
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Speaker 4: no coddle to this.
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Speaker 5: I keep saying, man, because it usually is male.
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Speaker 4: This person's delusions and everybody else just suppress your feelings
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Speaker 4: about this. And it's like, well, why isn't that person
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Speaker 4: worried that they're making everybody else uncomfortable. That girls are
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Speaker 4: missing out on scholarships, girls are missing out on opportunities
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Speaker 4: to compete in state championships and others because they're being
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Speaker 4: robbed by biological males. Girls are being made to feel
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Speaker 4: very uncomfortable in their bathrooms in their change rooms.
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Speaker 5: They don't care about that.
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Speaker 4: So how about this go fifty to fifty both ways.
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Speaker 4: There's quite a few unisex options nowadays when it comes
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Speaker 4: to toilets. You can believe whatever you want to believe
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Speaker 4: about yourself, but I am not ever going to be
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Speaker 4: forced to buy into somebody else's reality at the cost.
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Speaker 5: Of my own.
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Speaker 2: The other irony about this is it's only a few
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Speaker 2: weeks ago that State MP Tim Richardson was appointed the
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Speaker 2: first ever Parliamentary Secretary for changing men's behavior so that
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Speaker 2: Victoria could be a safer place for women and children.
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Speaker 2: And then next minute we've got an advertisement that encourages
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Speaker 2: women to ignore their instincts for survival and for women
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Speaker 2: to allow biological men to play sport with them. And again,
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Speaker 2: we're not having a shot at transgendered people, even go.
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Speaker 3: As far as calling them. Many of them.
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Speaker 2: Really do feel the way they feel, but it's about they're.
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Speaker 4: Trying to I believe it's a delusion, and I'm allowed
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Speaker 4: to believe that, and I'm allowed to say that.
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Speaker 5: You don't have to water down my words. If I
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Speaker 5: get in trouble, Mac, I get in trouble.
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Speaker 6: But it's the principle of the message that it's sending.
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Speaker 6: It's the same as you know, it's mother now gets
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Speaker 6: scrubbed from medical journals, and it's you birthing parent, and
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Speaker 6: it's chest feeding as opposed to Breastfeeding's not delusional behavior. No, no,
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Speaker 6: I'm not arguing about that point. I'm making the point
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Speaker 6: that what this does as with that, is it says
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Speaker 6: that you have to readjust your.
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Speaker 1: Life for me.
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Speaker 6: Right, instead of acknowledging that you're not in the majority
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Speaker 6: and we don't have to readjust the entire world for
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Speaker 6: you, you're saying, no, no, you must readjust the world for me.
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Speaker 1: It's selfishness, right, And in.
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Speaker 6: These cases, no one cares really what you want to
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Speaker 6: do with yourself. No one cares. Get on with your
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Speaker 6: life and let me get on with mine. Let's go
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Speaker 6: to the US now, where, of course, we saw the
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Speaker 6: debate on Friday. I'm sure you saw it as well. Now, look,
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Speaker 6: we're not going to pull it apart piece by piece,
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Speaker 6: because we spent plenty of time doing that on the weekend.
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Speaker 6: But it's interesting to see some of the fallout and
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Speaker 6: where things have gone after the debate. Now, of course
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Speaker 6: you saw exactly how the president performed formed on Friday,
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Speaker 6: and his team went into overdrive on the weekend to
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Speaker 6: try and fix up the miss that he had created.
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Speaker 6: His team was on the phone basically the minute he
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Speaker 6: walked off the stage, calling up as many supporters as possible,
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Speaker 6: calling snap meetings with his staff as they were on
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Speaker 6: the phone to Chuck Schumer to see what everyone thought
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Speaker 6: about it, because they know exactly how badly this has
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Speaker 6: played out. We will give you a little reminder of
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Speaker 6: how things went on Friday morning. So we haven't got
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Speaker 6: that grab just yet. But when you look at Biden
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Speaker 6: and the way he performed on the weekend or Friday,
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Speaker 6: for US, there is no way now that he can
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Speaker 6: be the candidate. He just can't write unless the Democrats
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Speaker 6: want to lose that election, because as I said on
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Speaker 6: the US Report on Friday night, he lost the presidency
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Speaker 6: on Friday morning. Now, whether they're means that he loses
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Speaker 6: the presidency before November or he loses it in November
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Speaker 6: is somewhat immterial. But he lost the presidency in.
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Speaker 1: Some way or another.
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Speaker 6: If they're not doing something now to get rid of him,
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Speaker 6: there's something wrong.
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Speaker 5: But I think this was it is the purpose of it.
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Speaker 4: There's a reason why this was the earliest presidential.
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Speaker 5: Debate debate in American history.
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Speaker 4: You don't have it this far out to an election.
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Speaker 4: You wait until things are a lot hotter, maybe a month,
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Speaker 4: maybe a couple at a stretch where here in well,
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Speaker 4: it only just went July. This was June, and they're
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Speaker 4: having debates to decide who you're going to vote for
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Speaker 4: in November. And I said this months ago when the
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Speaker 4: Dems did this dramatic one to eighty, No, we're not
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Speaker 4: going to debate. No, we're not going to have a
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Speaker 4: presidential debate all of a sudden, Yes, yes we are.
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Speaker 4: I said, there's only two reasons why they would do this.
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Speaker 4: Number one, because we're going to see the Manhattan Project
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Speaker 4: of pharmaceutical stimulants and everyone's going to.
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Speaker 5: Be like, oh, actually, wasn't that bad. I think he's
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Speaker 5: up for a vote or option number two.
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Speaker 4: And this one always had my money was that this
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Speaker 4: was deliberate. The whole idea was to do it this
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Speaker 4: early so people could watch him crash and burn, and
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Speaker 4: the Democrats would have the justification to do a ditch
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Speaker 4: and switch with quite a few months out to the election.
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Speaker 4: As opposed to if they'd done it in normal presidential
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Speaker 4: debate time, that would have been a very very dire situation.
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Speaker 4: So they make sure the debate happens in June. And
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Speaker 4: despite all the CNN being a very friendly network for
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Speaker 4: the Democrats, all the bits and pieces that were put
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Speaker 4: in place, there was.
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Speaker 5: A two minute delay.
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Speaker 4: What do you need a two minute delayed?
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Speaker 5: What were you antssipating could happen.
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Speaker 4: While the debate was underway? It was he maybe going
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Speaker 4: to collapse or something. I mean, for those not in media,
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Speaker 4: a two minute delay is that is that is you're
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Speaker 4: preparing for potentially armageddon. So despite all of that, Biden
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Speaker 4: still couldn't do an even average job.
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Speaker 5: It was genuinely painful.
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Speaker 2: You mentioned how early the debate was in terms of
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Speaker 2: the month June, but it was also late because it
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Speaker 2: was nine o'clock at night, wasn't it, Which clearly Joe
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Speaker 2: Biden is not performing at his premium that late in
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Speaker 2: the evening.
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Speaker 3: He's normally in better. It was certainly late in the evening.
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Speaker 6: I saw a story today that said he apparently is
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Speaker 6: like tuck it out after four pm.
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Speaker 1: The poor back, yeah, I mean will broken.
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Speaker 4: That is performance wasn't a setup, which I believe it was.
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Speaker 2: Most of his poor performance was because he had a cold.
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Speaker 2: It must have been the mother of all man colds
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Speaker 2: to produce that before and he was.
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Speaker 6: He was up fine and dandy the next morning with
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Speaker 6: a teleprompter, performing much better.
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Speaker 1: He sounded totally fine.
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Speaker 6: So if it was if he had a cold, that
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Speaker 6: was why he sounded so cropy, that's crap.
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Speaker 1: And did you see today they're now.
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Speaker 6: Claiming that it was because the CNN makeup artists had
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Speaker 6: done him up too pale or something and that made
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Speaker 6: him like he was sick.
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Speaker 1: Like they're looking for every excuse.
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Speaker 3: That The problem is, we've all seen it. We've got
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Speaker 3: to clip here.
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Speaker 2: We'll show you the one from twenty nineteen where Biden
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Speaker 2: is debating, and you can all see the comparison for
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Speaker 2: yourselves and the deterioration in just a short space of time.
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Speaker 3: Have look at this.
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Speaker 6: I continue to think we have to make fundamental changes
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Speaker 6: in civil rights, and those civil.
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Speaker 4: Rights, by the way, include not just on my African Americans,
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Speaker 4: but the LGBT community.
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Speaker 7: He wants to get away with it yet rid of
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Speaker 7: the ability of medicare to own for the ability for the.
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Speaker 3: So there you go. It's plain for all to see.
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Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter how the Democrats try to spin
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Speaker 2: this man, flu bad makeup artist, whatever you want.
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Speaker 3: But it gets even worse.
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Speaker 2: Right, Not only does that debate performance demonstrate why he
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Speaker 2: should not be present again, but they're now meeting at
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Speaker 2: Camp David, and he's getting advice from among people like Hunter.
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Speaker 3: Biden is there. He's got the family advising.
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Speaker 5: Him on what he should do.
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Speaker 1: Get on the drugs. That's that's the advice. Dad wants.
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Speaker 1: Some men that'll get you going.
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Speaker 4: The buddy, you got plenty of powder, which the White
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Speaker 4: House at one point tried to convince us was soaring powder,
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Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 5: Like the wood chips that you get.
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Speaker 4: But yeah, no, apparently Hunter Biden is a prolific carpentine.
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Speaker 2: Do you remember they were saying that the problem's unfair
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Speaker 2: to Biden because everyone set such a low bar for
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Speaker 2: him to jump, and they were complaining the bar was
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Speaker 2: so low, like he's just got to show up and breathe.
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Speaker 3: Well, he couldn't even jump that.
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Speaker 6: I know, I know, Will he was barely breathing, right,
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Speaker 6: but I couldn't get over Nancy Pelosi then coming out afterwards,
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Speaker 6: and you saw it with your own eyes what happened
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Speaker 6: at that debate. You know Biden is utterly demented. His
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Speaker 6: brain is mashed potato. We can all see it. So
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Speaker 6: Nancy Pelosi comes out and says, perhaps it's not Biden,
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Speaker 6: we should be worried about that. There's another man with
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Speaker 6: dementia that's a bigger threat.
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Speaker 8: My people are very much Biden, Kamla Harris, and this
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Speaker 8: is an opportunity for Joe Biden to go out there
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Speaker 8: and show he has the stamina and the rest. And
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Speaker 8: by the way, while the press and for some reason
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Speaker 8: they don't, there are a healthcare professionals who think that
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Speaker 8: Trump has dementia, that his collection, his thoughts not go together.
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Speaker 3: Amazing.
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Speaker 1: No, Trump's got demitia. Trump's got to don't worry about Biden.
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Speaker 2: You know who this selection is going to be between
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Speaker 2: the Republicans and the dementia credit.
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Speaker 5: Ready to get that one from?
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Speaker 1: Can I say that? How can you say that with
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Speaker 1: a straight face.
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Speaker 5: With Nancy Pelosi?
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Speaker 1: I said, true, true, true.
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Speaker 6: And there are when I wondered whether Nancy Pelosi is
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Speaker 6: all there herself to me right, And she's just as
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Speaker 6: ancient as Joe Barden is well.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think even Jill is showing signs of dementia.
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Speaker 2: I mean, do you remember after the debate and she
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Speaker 2: says that Joe, he.
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Speaker 1: Did so good. No no, no, no.
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Speaker 2: Question, the wait, and then she says to the crowd,
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Speaker 2: and what did Trump do? Just after she's told absolute
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Speaker 2: porkies because he knows he didn't do great. She knows
17:25
Speaker 2: he didn't grow great. We all know he didn't great.
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Speaker 2: And then she goes, but Donald Trump lies. She's just
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Speaker 2: lied to her husband about his performance.
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Speaker 6: That's not a sign that she has dementia. That's a
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Speaker 6: sign that she's desperate to continue living in.
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Speaker 1: The White House.
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Speaker 6: And she's popping out her husband every single day to
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Speaker 6: try and keep him in the place, because you look
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Speaker 6: everywhere he goes. Now he's holding her hand, he's leading her.
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Speaker 6: She waves to the public. She is the public face
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Speaker 6: of that marriage because she wants to stay in the world.
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Speaker 2: Right after the debate, Donald Trump just exited the state. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: and Biden, I timed it was twenty seconds. It took
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Speaker 2: him to get down three steps, Liz with Jill holding
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Speaker 2: his arm.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was all on display.
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Speaker 4: And I'm surprised that any elder abuse advocates haven't come
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Speaker 4: after Jill Biden. She has done this for years now,
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Speaker 4: and the Democrats are.
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Speaker 5: Kind of being forced to wake up.
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Speaker 4: And smell the kibble and admit that they can smell
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Speaker 4: the kibble. Even the lefty media in America having to
18:29
Speaker 4: admit after Friday's performance, I.
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Speaker 5: Can't believe it.
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Speaker 4: Maybe there's some truth to these dementia rumors.
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Speaker 5: The guy is not okay staying in the States.
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Speaker 4: Now, we all know that the DOJ, the Department of Justice,
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Speaker 4: has been investigating Boeing over a well litany of offenses.
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Speaker 4: There were the fatal crashes of twenty eighteen and twenty nineteen.
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Speaker 4: No survivors on those two planes killed over three hundred
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Speaker 4: and sixty people. Well, the FEDS are finally taking them
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Speaker 4: to task, and this is no small thing given Boeing
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Speaker 4: has massive contracts with both the Pentagon and NASA. Now,
19:10
Speaker 4: what happened was they were given a bit of a
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Speaker 4: deal back in January twenty twenty one, whereby they weren't
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Speaker 4: going to be prosecuted for those entirely full planes that
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Speaker 4: hit the ground and killed everyone on board. This deal
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Speaker 4: protected them from criminal prosecution in connection with those crashes.
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Speaker 4: Now prosecutors are alleging and this is why Boeing's getting
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Speaker 4: looked into again by the DOJ. The prosecutors are alleging
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Speaker 4: they broke that deal.
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Speaker 5: Boeing had a good deal, they broke it.
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Speaker 4: So now the DOJ is saying, well, we can prosecute
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Speaker 4: you for basically, I would call it the mass murders
19:53
Speaker 4: of over three hundred and sixty innocents due to Boeing's negligence.
19:59
Speaker 4: Here's this last month when the CEO of Boeing gave
20:03
Speaker 4: a well I guess he had to, didn't he A
20:06
Speaker 4: big sorry to the family members present as.
20:11
Speaker 5: This is all being looked into.
20:13
Speaker 7: I would like to apologize on behalf of all of
20:18
Speaker 7: our Boweing associates spread throughout the world, past and present,
20:24
Speaker 7: for your losses their dog, and I apologize for the
20:29
Speaker 7: grief that we have caused, and I want you to
20:32
Speaker 7: know we are totally committed in their memory, the work
20:36
Speaker 7: and focus on safety for as long as long as
20:40
Speaker 7: we're employed by Boeing.
20:42
Speaker 5: So again, I'm sorry.
20:45
Speaker 4: Boeing is once again being offered quite the sweetheart deal
20:48
Speaker 4: by the FEDS. They say, hey, if you guys, plead
20:51
Speaker 4: guilty to fraud with regard to these two plane crashes.
20:56
Speaker 4: You've gotten till Friday to basically take the plea. Now
21:00
Speaker 4: only knows who whether Boeing will.
21:03
Speaker 5: Take this or not.
21:04
Speaker 4: It seems like another ridiculously good deal from the Feds.
21:09
Speaker 4: And of course the families of the victims of these
21:13
Speaker 4: two plane crashes are very, very angry about it. There's
21:16
Speaker 4: a quote from the mother of a woman who lost
21:18
Speaker 4: her twenty four year old daughter in the twenty nineteen crash.
21:22
Speaker 4: She said, we are upset they should just prosecute. They
21:25
Speaker 4: are saying, we can argue to the judge. Of course
21:28
Speaker 4: they should be prosecuted. This is an absolute no brainer.
21:32
Speaker 4: And also, why have we heard nothing else about the
21:35
Speaker 4: two Boeing whistleblowers. One showed up dead in March while
21:39
Speaker 4: he was in the middle of testifying against Boeing. He'd
21:42
Speaker 4: worked for them for over thirty years. He finally got
21:46
Speaker 4: his day in court prosecuting these guys and playing his
21:49
Speaker 4: part holding their feet to the fire.
21:51
Speaker 5: He suddenly showed up dead in his own vehicle.
21:54
Speaker 4: Shot parked in a car park somewhere before he could
21:59
Speaker 4: go back and testify the next day. Roll around May,
22:03
Speaker 4: another whistleblower. First one was John Barnett. Second one was
22:07
Speaker 4: Joshua Dean. He was absolutely fit and wonderful, his family
22:12
Speaker 4: and friends say, and then died suddenly after two weeks
22:17
Speaker 4: of being diagnosed.
22:18
Speaker 5: With a mystery illness.
22:20
Speaker 4: Now, of course I can't cast aspersions here, but to me,
22:24
Speaker 4: that sounds incredibly suspicious. These guys were speaking truth to power.
22:31
Speaker 4: Then he said of John Barnette that he made a
22:34
Speaker 4: lot of powerful enemies.
22:35
Speaker 5: Obviously speaking out as he did for so many years.
22:38
Speaker 4: This thing was finally coming to a head, and two
22:41
Speaker 4: of the main whistleblowers, one dies in May shot and
22:44
Speaker 4: the other from a mystery illness when two weeks two
22:48
Speaker 4: weeks prior, he was fighting fit.
22:51
Speaker 6: There's two possible reasons that they've offered this plea bargain.
22:54
Speaker 6: One is that they just really can't be stuffed going
22:57
Speaker 6: through a trial and all the expense that will come
22:59
Speaker 6: with it, so they're just like, we want.
23:01
Speaker 1: This off the books.
23:02
Speaker 6: Please just play guilty so we can get this over
23:04
Speaker 6: and done with, which is a total disservice to the families.
23:07
Speaker 6: The other is that Boeing has for a long time
23:10
Speaker 6: had significant contracts with the Pentagon and the defense force
23:13
Speaker 6: in the United States. So the federal government of the
23:16
Speaker 6: United States itself has a bit of egg on its
23:19
Speaker 6: face and has to think seriously about the safety of
23:22
Speaker 6: the people it is putting in these planes. It has
23:25
Speaker 6: been buying planes from them for so damn long, So
23:30
Speaker 6: the quicker they.
23:31
Speaker 1: Get it out of the way, the better it is
23:33
Speaker 1: for them.
23:34
Speaker 6: But the only right thing to do in this case
23:37
Speaker 6: is to prosecute it, to go to trial, to bring
23:40
Speaker 6: out all the narali details, because you can have your
23:44
Speaker 6: investigations in terms of what's been happening in the US
23:46
Speaker 6: at the moment, but once you get in a courtroom,
23:49
Speaker 6: you can really get down into the nitty gritty of
23:52
Speaker 6: what has been going on in those factories. That's when
23:55
Speaker 6: we're really going to hear the serious stuff, and that's
23:59
Speaker 6: what we need to here. So I wouldn't be surprised
24:01
Speaker 6: to see Boeing plead guilty and try and get rid
24:03
Speaker 6: of it.
24:04
Speaker 1: But they just can't be stuff doing it, and it's
24:06
Speaker 1: a joke.
24:07
Speaker 2: And the decline of Boeing, which has been a great
24:09
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a classic American company, right, but in
24:12
Speaker 2: order to cut costs rather than producing all of the
24:15
Speaker 2: plane components themselves, whether it's the tail, the fuselage, the
24:19
Speaker 2: landing gear, the flight controls, they're all manufactured by different companies.
24:23
Speaker 2: In fact, there's more than six hundred companies, thirty five
24:26
Speaker 2: of which are in China that are making components, and
24:29
Speaker 2: so they outsource the manufacture. These six hundred companies ship
24:33
Speaker 2: the components to Boeing who then simply assemble the planes.
24:37
Speaker 2: So you can imagine trying to do safety standards and
24:40
Speaker 2: inspections on components coming from six hundred and more different
24:44
Speaker 2: companies and then add subcontractors to that. But they've gone
24:47
Speaker 2: that way to try to reduce costs, but of course
24:50
Speaker 2: that's increased massively the potential for things to go wrong.
24:54
Speaker 2: And the accusation is with the seven three seven Max aircraft,
24:58
Speaker 2: one that crashed in Ethiopia, the other one in Indonesia.
25:01
Speaker 1: And within five months of each within.
25:02
Speaker 2: Five months of each other, and that Boeing committed fraud
25:06
Speaker 2: or conspiracy to defraud the government by misleading them regarding
25:11
Speaker 2: safety inspections. If it was just that, maybe, but as
25:14
Speaker 2: you've pointed out with these whistleblowers, there's been so much
25:17
Speaker 2: since then, not least of which doors being blown out
25:20
Speaker 2: of planes, a wheel coming off a plane at Atlanta Airport.
25:25
Speaker 3: And so on and so forth. Boeing have a lot
25:27
Speaker 3: to answer for.
25:28
Speaker 4: They do, and I'm sorry that they've been offered this
25:31
Speaker 4: sweetheart deal. Of course they'd be nuts not to take it.
25:34
Speaker 4: They've got until Friday to make a decision. But it
25:38
Speaker 4: certainly isn't fair if, like the government knows you have
25:41
Speaker 4: all these massive contracts with us, We're just going to
25:44
Speaker 4: give you a good deal.
25:45
Speaker 1: Let you off the hook again.
25:47
Speaker 5: I mean, why were they offered that in the first place.
25:49
Speaker 6: I mean, it can jeopardize the contracts, but still I
25:52
Speaker 6: think it probably saves face a little bit for the
25:55
Speaker 6: government because the more they go through a trial where
25:58
Speaker 6: they point out all the errors that Boeing is made,
26:00
Speaker 6: then the question start being asked, why have you been
26:03
Speaker 6: buying military planes from them for so long?
26:05
Speaker 5: Right?
26:05
Speaker 2: And the other thing is the financial I mean in
26:07
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one is when you mentioned they're offered that
26:09
Speaker 2: first deal, it was a two hundred and forty four
26:11
Speaker 2: million dollar fine. But victims of the flights that crash
26:16
Speaker 2: they reckon they could get twenty four billion.
26:18
Speaker 5: Dollars, so they should be entitled to it.
26:20
Speaker 4: Absolutely they should be entitled to it, because even years
26:23
Speaker 4: prior to those crashes, guys like John Barnett and others
26:27
Speaker 4: were trying.
26:28
Speaker 5: To blue the whistle.
26:30
Speaker 4: They were still working at Boeing at the time, but internally.
26:34
Speaker 5: They were like, hey, guys, this isn't working.
26:37
Speaker 4: In fact, John Barnett one of the stories that he
26:39
Speaker 4: did get to tell was that he would send emails
26:42
Speaker 4: to his superiors about the negligence that was happening on
26:45
Speaker 4: the floor, saying, you know, the deadlines are too quick.
26:49
Speaker 4: The guys are just slapping these things together because of
26:53
Speaker 4: the operational standards, they're just.
26:55
Speaker 5: Not being met. And he said that they would never
27:00
Speaker 5: write back.
27:01
Speaker 4: They would always come to him and speak to him
27:04
Speaker 4: in person, so there was.
27:05
Speaker 5: No pay portrayal.
27:06
Speaker 4: And I guess even then they can just argue, are
27:09
Speaker 4: never really saw his emails?
27:11
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, did you send me an email? John?
27:13
Speaker 4: These guys knew what was going on, and that's where
27:17
Speaker 4: surely this becomes some sort of a manslaughter case, because
27:20
Speaker 4: it's like, you knew you weren't doing due diligence and
27:22
Speaker 4: hundreds of people to climbing aboard your flights every single day.
27:26
Speaker 3: Well, let's go to Europe.
27:27
Speaker 2: Where elections are taking place and Conservatives keep gaining momentum
27:31
Speaker 2: as the public pushes back against mass immigration. After the
27:35
Speaker 2: first round of voting in the French parliamentary election national Rally,
27:39
Speaker 2: that's the right wing party or the Conservative Party, I
27:42
Speaker 2: should say, they're leading the polls, getting thirty three percent
27:45
Speaker 2: of the vote compared to the left wing New Popular
27:48
Speaker 2: Front party twenty nine percent, and Emanuel Macron's own party
27:53
Speaker 2: got only twenty percent of the vote. The irony there
27:56
Speaker 2: is that, of course Macron called for this early election
27:59
Speaker 2: hoping that people would try to counterbalance a big Conservative
28:03
Speaker 2: win in the European Parliament. It's ironic that he's done
28:06
Speaker 2: this while these soccer is on because talk about own goals,
28:09
Speaker 2: He's now pretty much guaranteed that his centrist party won't
28:13
Speaker 2: have power in parliament, and by the time the Olympics
28:16
Speaker 2: rolls around, Liz, there could be a twenty eighty year
28:19
Speaker 2: old prime minister in France.
28:22
Speaker 5: Indeed, Lapenn's what do you call them? The don't know
28:29
Speaker 5: when you have a youngling that you've raised up yourself.
28:31
Speaker 3: Mentor no protege.
28:33
Speaker 4: Yes, that's well, you were useless.
28:37
Speaker 6: But didn't know where you were going.
28:40
Speaker 3: I'm not Richard here incredible, clearly, I am.
28:44
Speaker 5: Thank you should be incredibly exciting.
28:46
Speaker 4: I just couldn't believe learning how complex the French I know, yeah, yeah,
28:50
Speaker 4: the fact that they're like oh la Penz Party has
28:53
Speaker 4: wiped the floor with them. But this is just the
28:55
Speaker 4: first round, and then a week later, if in your
28:59
Speaker 4: seat you've got over fifty percent of the vote, you've
29:01
Speaker 4: got the seat.
29:02
Speaker 5: It's all over, red rover.
29:03
Speaker 4: If you got under a twelve point five you don't
29:06
Speaker 4: make it to the second round. So if nobody got
29:09
Speaker 4: over fifty percent in that seat, then everyone who got
29:12
Speaker 4: twelve point five percent or above is back in the running,
29:16
Speaker 4: and everybody in those seats has to go back to
29:18
Speaker 4: the balls the following week to pick a winner out
29:22
Speaker 4: of who's left.
29:23
Speaker 3: Sorry, can you explain that again?
29:26
Speaker 1: I can explain it very quickly.
29:27
Speaker 6: It's why preferential voting is a good sister, I entrusted.
29:32
Speaker 5: The friend to come out with this.
29:34
Speaker 4: But the pollsters are saying Le Penz Party the National
29:38
Speaker 4: rally could get up to two hundred and eighty seats.
29:41
Speaker 5: The complication is they.
29:42
Speaker 4: Need two hundred and eighty nine to get majority government,
29:47
Speaker 4: otherwise they'd have to make some sort of a deal
29:50
Speaker 4: with the lefty dregs who have also run and got
29:54
Speaker 4: a foot in the door, but not nearly as many seats.
29:57
Speaker 3: The amazing part of it be very interesting.
29:58
Speaker 2: They said they could get two hundred eighty seats going
30:01
Speaker 2: into this, let nine more than that, Yeah, but they
30:03
Speaker 2: only started with eighty eight or eighty nine seats. So
30:06
Speaker 2: you can see the push towards the right and towards
30:09
Speaker 2: conspiracy absolutely, and of course people on the left don't like.
30:13
Speaker 3: It at all.
30:14
Speaker 2: Here's some of the reaction on the streets of France
30:16
Speaker 2: after that vote. Again, and here I was Caleb thinking
30:36
Speaker 2: it was the right wingers who called all the violent, nasty, nasty, devastation,
30:39
Speaker 2: nasty black lives matter.
30:41
Speaker 1: That was all false, wasn't it.
30:43
Speaker 6: And you made the point before about what is Macron
30:46
Speaker 6: playing at here? And I think this is probably Emmanuel
30:50
Speaker 6: Macron's version of David Cameron's Brexit moment right where he
30:55
Speaker 6: tried to set the thing up to fail so that
30:58
Speaker 6: he could then say, well I did and it didn't work,
31:01
Speaker 6: so we can't talk about this anymore, right, But this
31:04
Speaker 6: is the great swifty that he can start to pull
31:06
Speaker 6: with this diabolical system that they have in France where
31:11
Speaker 6: you kind of get a read on where the election
31:14
Speaker 6: is going on the first weekend, which then tells you
31:17
Speaker 6: how to campaign in the lead up to the second weekend,
31:21
Speaker 6: and so traditionally what has happened in France is that
31:23
Speaker 6: people have sort of ganged up in a way to
31:27
Speaker 6: stop the Marine Leapen and her mob from being able
31:32
Speaker 6: to form any kind of great numbers. But now that
31:36
Speaker 6: they know that they did so well, they polled so
31:39
Speaker 6: well in the first round, they're going to be doing
31:42
Speaker 6: everything they can over the next week to make sure
31:45
Speaker 6: they can reverse that come next weekend. So it's almost
31:50
Speaker 6: like your opponents are given a window into how good
31:54
Speaker 6: you are, so they know how to change their campaign
31:57
Speaker 6: to screw you over in the lead up to another election.
32:01
Speaker 6: In what world is that good democracy? I just don't
32:05
Speaker 6: understand it.
32:06
Speaker 2: The other interesting thing about this is we've got another
32:09
Speaker 2: key Western nation in France that will probably end up
32:12
Speaker 2: with a hung parliament.
32:13
Speaker 3: That's what they're suggesting.
32:14
Speaker 2: They don't think anyone's going to get enough to govern
32:16
Speaker 2: in their own right right at the time, where we've
32:18
Speaker 2: got China, Russia, North Korea, the ayatol In. We've got
32:23
Speaker 2: trouble all over the world, and France will likely have
32:26
Speaker 2: a hung parliament, a prime minister and a president.
32:29
Speaker 3: Who are politically opposed.
32:30
Speaker 2: So you've got domestic chaos when we need Western countries
32:34
Speaker 2: to be strong and united to ward off the threats
32:37
Speaker 2: that are.
32:38
Speaker 3: You just get on the horizon ball.
32:39
Speaker 5: That's a necessary up evil. It's a something. France is
32:44
Speaker 5: in shambles. I've been there several times. I have friends
32:47
Speaker 5: who live there. They themselves are Frenchies, and.
32:50
Speaker 4: They've told me for years the deterioration of their nation
32:54
Speaker 4: just unfolding before their eyes, years in, year out.
32:58
Speaker 5: And this is hence the uprising.
33:00
Speaker 4: So even if it doesn't in a hung parliament, even
33:03
Speaker 4: if things do have to be messy for a little while,
33:06
Speaker 4: it's worth it. This is the sorting of the wheat
33:09
Speaker 4: and the chaff.
33:09
Speaker 5: This is the French.
33:10
Speaker 4: He's rising up saying we don't like what our country
33:13
Speaker 4: has become. And if that means voting for La penn
33:16
Speaker 4: I mean thirty four percent of the national vote on
33:19
Speaker 4: round one, that is incredible.
33:22
Speaker 5: Well done to them.
33:23
Speaker 6: And look, you know, as I said before, I'm not
33:26
Speaker 6: that crash hot on their voting system over there. But
33:29
Speaker 6: there are a few things that the French do well.
33:31
Speaker 6: They do wine really well, they do cheese really well.
33:35
Speaker 6: And you can argue about how good their cars are.
33:38
Speaker 6: I think their cars are good to look at, but
33:40
Speaker 6: they don't operate all that well. One thing that France
33:42
Speaker 6: I don't think is known for is speed boats. But
33:45
Speaker 6: you know, if you're a trade in Australia, you're probably
33:48
Speaker 6: know about speedboats.
33:49
Speaker 1: Get it out there on the weekend.
33:50
Speaker 6: Well, you know who else is getting speedboats? People smugglers. Yes,
33:54
Speaker 6: people's smuddlers who are bringing people or trying to bring
33:58
Speaker 6: people to Australia. Most recently they've been trying to get
34:01
Speaker 6: on to Christmas Island. Reportedly, what is happening is that
34:05
Speaker 6: the border force is rounding all of the people off
34:09
Speaker 6: the boat that they were trying to get here on.
34:11
Speaker 6: They then go and destroy that boat. They didn't put
34:15
Speaker 6: them on a speed boat and say jetsoff back to Indonesia.
34:19
Speaker 1: Boys, have a good time.
34:21
Speaker 6: Have a look at one of these boats and you'll
34:24
Speaker 6: see the people milling around it. They alleged when they
34:27
Speaker 6: got back on shore to Indonesia that this boat was
34:30
Speaker 6: given to them by the Australian Border Force. It all
34:43
Speaker 6: looks like quite a nice boat to me, probably a
34:45
Speaker 6: lot better than the one that the people smugglers were
34:48
Speaker 6: using in the first place. The reporting on this today
34:52
Speaker 6: in the Australian Dahlan's one of the blokes who was
34:56
Speaker 6: on that boat. He told Indonesian police that they were
34:59
Speaker 6: held at sea for eleven days on the Australian Patrol
35:02
Speaker 6: vessel before being transferred to a quote unquote speedboat and
35:05
Speaker 6: told to go back to Java. Local said this type
35:08
Speaker 6: of speedboat was uncommon on the southern Java coastline, although
35:12
Speaker 6: boats like it were used in other parts of Indonesia
35:15
Speaker 6: for fishing and diving tours. So we've come up with
35:17
Speaker 6: this ingenious plan that if you try to come to
35:21
Speaker 6: Australia on a rickety boat, we're going to take your
35:24
Speaker 6: rickety boat away from you and destroy it, and then
35:27
Speaker 6: we're going to give the people smugglers a you but
35:30
Speaker 6: speed boat to go back to Indonesia to pick up
35:33
Speaker 6: more people.
35:34
Speaker 1: So they're going to do.
35:36
Speaker 5: Has confirmed this right?
35:38
Speaker 1: Well, where would they get the speedboat from.
35:41
Speaker 4: I'm sure that there could be an old mate watching
35:43
Speaker 4: tonight being like what media boat I've got to visit
35:47
Speaker 4: the marina.
35:48
Speaker 1: That looks a lot like my boat.
35:51
Speaker 5: But but this has not been confirmed. We are taking.
35:55
Speaker 2: The dell Arm's word for it exactly.
35:57
Speaker 4: So I don't know what to make of this, but
36:00
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past the government because the last.
36:03
Speaker 5: Thing they need right now is stories of.
36:06
Speaker 4: More people rocking up and then everyone goes, oh, borders
36:10
Speaker 4: a week under Labor, and again and again and again
36:13
Speaker 4: it goes. So they don't want that story hitting the
36:16
Speaker 4: newspaper one more time. So I wouldn't put it past
36:19
Speaker 4: them to be like, okay, we're handing out speedboats from
36:21
Speaker 4: now on.
36:21
Speaker 3: Exactly why we complain.
36:23
Speaker 2: We've been telling the Labor government to be tough on borders,
36:26
Speaker 2: turn back boats instead of Tony Abbott, who gave them
36:28
Speaker 2: a lifeboat which with a little diesel motive will take
36:31
Speaker 2: them forever to get back. Governments like get on a speedboat,
36:34
Speaker 2: get out of here a stove.
36:35
Speaker 6: So because you can't take that lifeboat back to Australia
36:40
Speaker 6: like you're essentially if you're a crackhead and I'm like,
36:43
Speaker 6: you've got a dodgy myth pipe, I'll take your myth
36:46
Speaker 6: pipe away from you. Here's a better myth pipe, like
36:48
Speaker 6: we're saying to the people smugglers. You come over in
36:51
Speaker 6: a rickety boat. He is a better boat, so you
36:53
Speaker 6: can keep doing your job.
36:54
Speaker 2: I did not understand that frustrations bid love and he
36:58
Speaker 2: really actually offered it to his fan. We're going to
37:01
Speaker 2: go to a break. When we come back, we'll look
37:02
Speaker 2: at what's making news tomorrow.
37:04
Speaker 3: That's coming up in a moment.
37:10
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back. Let's take a look at what's
37:12
Speaker 2: making news tomorrow. So you hear it here first. Don't
37:14
Speaker 2: have to buy the paper tomorrow. We'll tell you all
37:16
Speaker 2: about it.
37:17
Speaker 1: Hang on, James, James, Jamps.
37:18
Speaker 6: Don't discourage people from buying the papers. You know, the
37:21
Speaker 6: news court papers pay me to write for them, right.
37:24
Speaker 1: I want you to buy the paper. Please buy the paper.
37:27
Speaker 3: And so you don't have to it. Oh no, I
37:29
Speaker 3: actually did say that. Just read the paper. Canst do?
37:32
Speaker 6: We all part of the one company here. Let's all
37:35
Speaker 6: just look after each other, especially my paypack it. Let's
37:38
Speaker 6: go to the cans post tomorrow where it says meant
37:41
Speaker 6: a given six month deadline, social media companies have been
37:44
Speaker 6: given six months to come up with enforceable codes to
37:47
Speaker 6: protect young kids from pawn after research found children as
37:51
Speaker 6: young as eight are unintentionally seeing graphic sexual content while
37:55
Speaker 6: scrolling on the apps. Look, I think we probably already
37:58
Speaker 6: knew that kids looking at porn on social media, but
38:03
Speaker 6: something absolutely has to be done about it because it
38:06
Speaker 6: is a free for all and Facebook not quite as much.
38:10
Speaker 6: But I have noticed X of late is pushing through
38:14
Speaker 6: a lot of particular promo stuff like only fans models,
38:18
Speaker 6: and this kind of stuff is a bit more of a.
38:19
Speaker 4: Larsoose just ads, Caleb. So what does that say about it?
38:23
Speaker 6: No? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, here we go.
38:25
Speaker 1: I knew Liz was going to go, do you know.
38:26
Speaker 5: Because we all know how the market.
38:28
Speaker 4: I've never seen an only fans out on my ex feed.
38:31
Speaker 2: Well, the bottom line is it's way too trying to.
38:38
Speaker 3: Get back to the topic.
38:39
Speaker 2: The topic is that it's way too easy for kids
38:42
Speaker 2: to stumble across porn. The only surprises they haven't done
38:46
Speaker 2: anything about this years ago, because this is not a
38:49
Speaker 2: recent problem, which is why everybody for a long time.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, which is why once again I call complete bs
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Speaker 4: on this.
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Speaker 5: They're saying, oh, it's so bad for kids, selfish state.
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Speaker 5: We've known this for as long as social media has existed, Oh,
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Speaker 5: kids are accessing pornography.
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Speaker 4: It was over three years ago that it made headlines
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Speaker 4: that the average age of exposure to pornography in Australia is,
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Speaker 4: to our shame, nine years of age.
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Speaker 5: And you want to act shocked about it in twenty
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Speaker 5: twenty four.
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Speaker 4: We have known this has been going on for forever,
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Speaker 4: and this is they've been going very hard on this
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Speaker 4: because they're all right, well, we've got to protect children,
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Speaker 4: and as I keep on saying, no reasonable person is
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Speaker 4: going to disagree with that. But the only way to
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Speaker 4: do it is the real agenda that they're pushing, and
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Speaker 4: that is some sort of digital idea that you will
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Speaker 4: need to prove when you jump online that you are
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Speaker 4: over eighteen or whatever age restriction maybe on that site.
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Speaker 4: Facebook already tries to check your age, but of course
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Speaker 4: kids can lie just as easily as adults. If you're
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Speaker 4: accessing some sort of material or even ordering booze on
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Speaker 4: and it comes up saying are you eighteen, anyone can
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Speaker 4: click yes, I'm eighteen.
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Speaker 5: And that's the end of it.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just believe there is a very different
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Speaker 4: agenda to this because every single thing that they come
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Speaker 4: out with arguing for these protections for children. Has been
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Speaker 4: the case for countless years now, and you have had
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Speaker 4: mountains of research and you have done absolutely nothing about it.
40:24
Speaker 4: But all of a sudden, just weeks after you pass
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Speaker 4: your digital identity bill, it's the talk of the town
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Speaker 4: and we never see a front page without it. It's
40:34
Speaker 4: been weeks and weeks and weeks. Gee, I wonder why,
40:38
Speaker 4: all of a sudden it's top priority. Let's go to
40:41
Speaker 4: the front page of the Herald's Sun now. Paramedic near miss.
40:45
Speaker 4: A paramedic is lucky to be alive after crashing down
40:48
Speaker 4: an embankment in the Hume region following an eighteen hour shift.
40:53
Speaker 4: The worker had endured a shift from hell, having worked
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Speaker 4: from seven am until one well sorry, one third thirty
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Speaker 4: am the following morning.
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Speaker 5: When he fell asleep at the wheel on Thursday.
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Speaker 4: Thank goodness, he and everybody else is okay.
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Speaker 5: But this is just going to be what's.
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Speaker 4: Happening when you're overworking paramedics, staff and all manner of
41:17
Speaker 4: other stuff. As medicos, you just want to be glad
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Speaker 4: it didn't cost someone their life, because even if you're
41:22
Speaker 4: trying to focus on you're at the scene and you're
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Speaker 4: trying to help someone or you're measuring out a dosage
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Speaker 4: of something.
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Speaker 5: Goodness knows what can happen when you're sleep deprived.
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Speaker 6: And I'm surprised it's taken this long for something like
41:36
Speaker 6: this to happen, because it's not new that nurses and
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Speaker 6: paramedics are put under a hell of a lot of
41:41
Speaker 6: pressure over very long shifts.
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Speaker 1: And I suppose there's always been an.
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Speaker 6: Attitude within the industry that it's like, well, I had
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Speaker 6: to do that when I was earning my stripes as
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Speaker 6: a nurse, and therefore the rest of you should have
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Speaker 6: to go through that as well, because that's just how
41:58
Speaker 6: it's always been.
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Speaker 1: But it shouldn't be that way.
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Speaker 6: I mean, these are the people that we entrust to
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Speaker 6: look after others at some of the most vulnerable points
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Speaker 6: of their life. I mean, you know, if you're having
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Speaker 6: a heart attack and the paramedic rocks up, you want
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Speaker 6: to know that that person can look after you to
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Speaker 6: the absolute fullness of their ability. Or if it's your
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Speaker 6: dad who's having a heart attack, you want to know
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Speaker 6: that the person who's rocking up can do it to
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Speaker 6: the absolute fullness of their ability. They are paid not
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Speaker 6: a great deal of money, worked like absolute dogs, and
42:30
Speaker 6: then we wonder why they drive an ambulance off the
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Speaker 6: road at one point thirty in the morning after working
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Speaker 6: such an extreme shift.
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Speaker 1: They deserve better.
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Speaker 6: It's indicative of a totally broken since the Victorio government
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Speaker 6: ever fixed it.
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Speaker 2: And the Victorian government would have the money to fix
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Speaker 2: it if they weren't so busy producing those antidiscrimination ads
42:48
Speaker 2: for transgender people. Let's go to the front page of
42:51
Speaker 2: the Career mail. I'm in exile ALP senator rogue. Labor
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Speaker 2: Senator Fatimir Payment says she will consider her future after
42:59
Speaker 2: being suspended from the party indefinitely by the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 2: She went on to say she'd lost all contact with
43:05
Speaker 2: her caucus colleagues after the PM's edict, making her feel
43:09
Speaker 2: quote unquote I've been exiled. Well, she kind of exiled
43:13
Speaker 2: herself by crossing the floor and then going on the
43:17
Speaker 2: ABC to say she would do it again. She also
43:21
Speaker 2: complained that she's been kicked off the Labor caucus WhatsApp
43:24
Speaker 2: group says that she's been made to feel intimidated and
43:30
Speaker 2: like they're trying to bully her out of the Labor Party.
43:33
Speaker 2: So yeah, didn't want that long togo straight to victimhood.
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Speaker 6: What do you think they're doing, Joe Biden over there
43:42
Speaker 6: with your brain capacity?
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Speaker 1: Seriously.
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Speaker 6: I noted the comments today of Matt Canavan which were that,
43:48
Speaker 6: you know, most Labor MP's are just lemmings who conformed
43:53
Speaker 6: to the party. Whatever you think of what she's done,
43:56
Speaker 6: she's at least someone who stood up for her values.
43:58
Speaker 6: And I take his point on the only problem is
44:02
Speaker 6: that when you sign up to the Labor Party it
44:05
Speaker 6: says very clearly on the form that you have to
44:08
Speaker 6: conform to caucus's view.
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Speaker 1: So if you want to be part.
44:12
Speaker 6: Of the club, you have to adhere to the rules
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Speaker 6: of the club. She's broken the rules of the club.
44:18
Speaker 6: If she had any honor whatsoever, she would resign her
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Speaker 6: membership of the Labor Party and sit on the cross
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Speaker 6: bench and do what she wants.
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Speaker 1: She would die on this hill that.
44:28
Speaker 6: She is so desperate to die on an issue.
44:31
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with Australia.
44:32
Speaker 6: But of course, if she leaves the Labor Party then
44:35
Speaker 6: she ain't going to be on a scent ticket in
44:36
Speaker 6: a few years time. She ain't getting no lea.
44:38
Speaker 4: This is why it was so stupid of her to
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Speaker 4: do this because you're entitled to your beliefs right, But
44:44
Speaker 4: you know that crossing the floor equals expulsion.
44:47
Speaker 5: So if you genuinely believe in your cause, you want
44:51
Speaker 5: to take the call. You want to fight for what
44:55
Speaker 5: you believe in.
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Speaker 4: So your little moment of crossing the floor just lost
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Speaker 4: your cause. A sitting senator, I just don't see how
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Speaker 4: a smart person thinks that that is actually worth it,
45:07
Speaker 4: as opposed to I will do as i'm told. I
45:10
Speaker 4: will not cross the floor, but I will fight for
45:13
Speaker 4: my cause and what I believe is right every day
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Speaker 4: in this parliament, and that is that is far more commendable,
45:20
Speaker 4: I mean, regardless of increase. Obviously I don't agree with her,
45:23
Speaker 4: but that would be far more useful if you want
45:30
Speaker 4: to fight.
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Speaker 2: For it, and praising her for standing for her principles.
45:33
Speaker 2: As you pointed out, the first principle should be honored
45:35
Speaker 2: to the thing that you signed up for, and if
45:38
Speaker 2: she really was a person of principle, then she would
45:41
Speaker 2: cross the floor and take whatever's coming. Not then claim
45:44
Speaker 2: I'm a victim, I'm being intimidated, I'm being bullied, I've
45:47
Speaker 2: been exiled.
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Speaker 3: I don't think she deserves an she's or praise at all.
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Speaker 6: She's put herself up as the martyr and then complained
45:54
Speaker 6: about the fact she's been martyred.
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Speaker 1: Now, when you're the.
45:57
Speaker 6: Martyr, you'll mean to be proud of it that you've
46:00
Speaker 6: I'm the right thing, that you've.
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Speaker 1: Gone against the grain that I am doing. I'm doing
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Speaker 1: it there for the rest of you.
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Speaker 6: And then she's like, oh my god, I didn't know
46:08
Speaker 6: that there would be consequences if I margined byself. It
46:11
Speaker 6: makes no sense whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: Well, we're going to go to a break when we
46:15
Speaker 2: come back. A swear jar you'd be familiar with that,
46:18
Speaker 2: But what about a misgender jar that's coming up in
46:21
Speaker 2: a moment?
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, all right.
46:25
Speaker 2: So there's this woman who decides that she's going to
46:28
Speaker 2: be non binary, but her sorry, their partner keeps.
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Speaker 3: Mis gendering them. So she's they have come up with.
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Speaker 2: A jar whereby the partner will have to put money
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Speaker 2: in it every time he miss genders his partner.
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Speaker 4: Here it is, I recently came out as non binary
46:45
Speaker 4: to my fee ink and he's having a hard time
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Speaker 4: switching my pronouns.
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Speaker 1: Let's see if there's helps.
46:53
Speaker 3: This just goes to demonstrate that not all red flags are.
46:55
Speaker 4: Red, mate, run wait until she's asleep, grab the ring
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Speaker 4: off her finger, and just get out of their hair.
47:02
Speaker 2: I reckon that was the first red flag? Or do
47:03
Speaker 2: you reckon they were earlier signs.
47:05
Speaker 5: I'm sure there were earlier signs.
47:07
Speaker 4: The fact that she was comfortable enough to enforce this
47:10
Speaker 4: in such a way that he had to pay the
47:12
Speaker 4: financial penalty for not calling her. They them, they then, right,
47:18
Speaker 4: I mean that's that's one of the easier ones than
47:21
Speaker 4: the z's.
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Speaker 2: Someone said regarding the partner, buddy, that jars not for money,
47:26
Speaker 2: that's for your masculinity.
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Speaker 3: It's gone put up with that.
47:30
Speaker 6: That well, okays to be a glaton for punishment, right,
47:32
Speaker 6: Like he's one of those ones that you know when
47:34
Speaker 6: your mate gets a girlfriend and you're a bit like,
47:37
Speaker 6: we're really not.
47:38
Speaker 1: Sure about it.
47:38
Speaker 6: So you take him to the pub and you stage
47:40
Speaker 6: an intervention and you're like.
47:42
Speaker 1: Mate, she is bad news. You have to get rid
47:45
Speaker 1: of her.
47:45
Speaker 6: And then he's like, no, she's the best thing that
47:49
Speaker 6: ever happened to me.
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Speaker 1: No, just get the hell rid of her, mate.
47:52
Speaker 6: Let's go over to the UK before we go, By
47:56
Speaker 6: the way, what is a fianc I assume it's mean
47:58
Speaker 6: to be fance. Look if he's been called a fianc,
48:01
Speaker 6: I'd be running for that reason alone. Let's get to
48:03
Speaker 6: the UK before we go now, of course, the UK
48:07
Speaker 6: election is on Friday Australian time, and you can watch
48:10
Speaker 6: all the coverage here on Sky News. Laura Jays will
48:13
Speaker 6: be live from the UK to give you all the latest.
48:16
Speaker 1: But the ads are really ramping up.
48:18
Speaker 6: The campaign is ramping up in the dying days of
48:21
Speaker 6: the campaign. And have a look at some of the
48:23
Speaker 6: ads that have been running on the newspaper websites in
48:26
Speaker 6: the UK over the last few days. The Labor Party
48:28
Speaker 6: has essentially taken over every news website in the UK.
48:33
Speaker 6: And apparently the way this transpired was because we know
48:37
Speaker 6: there's this scandal about all these people in the Conservatives
48:40
Speaker 6: going off and betting on when the election was going
48:42
Speaker 6: to be held because they had prior knowledge and Labor
48:45
Speaker 6: had noticed the betting markets coming in before the election
48:49
Speaker 6: had been announced, so they went off and bought all
48:52
Speaker 6: the ad space for July the fourth and the lead
48:54
Speaker 6: up to it because they worked out on the basis
48:57
Speaker 6: of the betting market when the election.
48:59
Speaker 4: Was going to have just saved their money because they're
49:02
Speaker 4: going to win in a landslide. They should have let
49:04
Speaker 4: the Tories bankrupt themselves in the last week of campaigning.
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Speaker 5: Because nothing is going to save the Tories.
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Speaker 2: Now, that's it from us, but stick around. Coming up
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Speaker 2: in just a moment is the Reader Pennehey Show.