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Lord Mayor Kon Vatskalis is calling for additional police resources in the wake of the Biz Secure business security upgrade announcement · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Con joining me in the studio. He's back the Lord
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  Speaker 1: Mayor of Darwin conbat Scarles.
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning key. They were the time we complain about
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  Speaker 3: the weather's to hot, and today we'll.
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  Speaker 2: Go it's lovely.
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  Speaker 3: I've enjoying it back in fashion.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you're called you need a jumper, otherwise you'll
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  Speaker 2: get a cold. That's what I tell my King of jumpers.
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  Speaker 3: Since nineteen eighty I keep wearing them now.
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  Speaker 1: Corn, firstly, I do want to ask you about We
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  Speaker 1: know that the Northern Territory government announced a number of
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  Speaker 1: different measures yesterday in an effort to try and curb
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  Speaker 1: some of the concerns that we've got around crime and
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  Speaker 1: anti social behavior. You and I have spoken about this
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  Speaker 1: issue so many times over the course of this year
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  Speaker 1: and in previous years, but certainly it's been a real
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  Speaker 1: issue this year.
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  Speaker 2: Corn. Do you think that these measures go far enough?
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  Speaker 3: I have to tell you Katie that a week after
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  Speaker 3: she was chosen to be the Chief Minister, Natasa Files
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  Speaker 3: wrung me. She told me she knows we've got a
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  Speaker 3: problem with crime and she wants to do something about it.
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  Speaker 3: So seven July, all the mayors and President in another
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  Speaker 3: territory will meet with the chief means to discuss this
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  Speaker 3: same issue, which is really really good.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got amazing happening.
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  Speaker 3: On the other thing is my friend the Lord Mayor
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  Speaker 3: of Perth, because the zembulance. He sent me an email
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  Speaker 3: the other day bragging to me that the WA Police
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  Speaker 3: allocated one hundred and twenty five police officers to patrol
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  Speaker 3: the Percy BD because they had the same problem. I
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  Speaker 3: don't ask for one hundred and twenty five. Twenty five
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  Speaker 3: would be really good to see in the streets. I
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  Speaker 3: know the police hierarchy believes in task force, but I
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  Speaker 3: give them a hint. A task force that will be
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  Speaker 3: very popular is the community policing task force. Police on
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  Speaker 3: the streets, you can do anything you like. You can
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  Speaker 3: actually put locks and everything else. People if they want
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  Speaker 3: to break in, they will break in, we know that one.
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  Speaker 3: But if the police is around, people think twice before
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  Speaker 3: they do that.
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  Speaker 1: So con by the sounds of it, you feel as
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  Speaker 1: though you know, putting in those extra security measures like
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  Speaker 1: securing your business a band aid solution, and you're actually
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  Speaker 1: calling for additional police.
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  Speaker 3: You do that when you try to stop something happening.
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  Speaker 3: But if the police on the streets will make sure
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  Speaker 3: they will not happening because there would be around, and
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  Speaker 3: you don't do stupid things if you know they're going
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  Speaker 3: to be twenty or thirty people patrolling the streets of
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  Speaker 3: Darwin and they're more likely to catch you. We've seen
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  Speaker 3: it before. I've seen my time as a member for Casarina.
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  Speaker 3: I've seen my time as a member of the Legislative Assembly.
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  Speaker 3: Every time that policemen were on the streets, we didn't
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  Speaker 3: have the problems with gangs and everything else. It's simple solution.
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  Speaker 1: Con It seems like they're trying to juggle a lot
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  Speaker 1: of commitments at the moment, the Northern Territory Police. But
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's a big call for the Lord Mayor
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  Speaker 1: of Darwin to be saying we need more police on
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  Speaker 1: the streets right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, have you seen policemen in the streets, because I
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  Speaker 3: saw the segues for a few times and then they disappeared.
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  Speaker 3: I'm calling that one because every resident in down telling
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  Speaker 3: me that they don't see police in the streets. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if I'm blind and I can't see blue,
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  Speaker 3: but I haven't seen blue for a long long time
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  Speaker 3: in the streets I mean, it's a common sense. You
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  Speaker 3: put troops on the streets, all of a sudden things
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  Speaker 3: go quiet.
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  Speaker 2: I know that.
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  Speaker 1: I think i'd seen on Channel nine News last night
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  Speaker 1: when the new Chief Minister was talking about this topic.
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  Speaker 1: She had said that we're managing the very valuable resources
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  Speaker 1: that we've got. And that's why I think they've got
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  Speaker 1: this extra funding for private security and a couple of
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  Speaker 1: other measures.
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  Speaker 2: That's not enough.
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  Speaker 3: When I was in Litative Assembly, we had one of
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  Speaker 3: the biggest numbers of police per capita in the territory.
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  Speaker 3: Now I've got even more. Those days we had policy
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  Speaker 3: on the streets, Now we've got more policeman. How come
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  Speaker 3: we don't have police on the streets. It's a question
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  Speaker 3: that we asked, not only me, You're going to ask
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  Speaker 3: people out there. They will tell you exactly the same question.
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  Speaker 2: We hear.
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  Speaker 3: It is somebody is either deaf or somebody says that
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  Speaker 3: I've got my own ideas. Well. Good, I'm glad you've
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  Speaker 3: got people got ideas. But one of the things that works,
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  Speaker 3: and we know it works because she tried and tried
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  Speaker 3: and proven work, is community policing. The interesting thing is
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  Speaker 3: it's not meant that's saying that a policeman telling me
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  Speaker 3: that one that the only way to address the current
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  Speaker 3: situation is community police.
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  Speaker 1: So you reckon we need community Do we need a
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  Speaker 1: community policing unit that is out on the streets.
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  Speaker 2: How many police are you talking?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I can't tell you because if i've I tell you,
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  Speaker 3: I'll probably ask for a lot. But I mean again,
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  Speaker 3: when we had the segues of the mall, there was
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  Speaker 3: no trouble on the mall. We even police themselves admit
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  Speaker 3: we've got four thousand visitors from outside Darwin that they
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  Speaker 3: caused mayhem. Well we've got four thousand visitors. Where are
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  Speaker 3: the policemen on the streets?
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  Speaker 1: Well, contact Scarala see go Obviously the mayor of Darwin
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  Speaker 1: calling for community policing unit within the within the top
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  Speaker 1: end again and wanting some troops, more troops on the ground.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to that community policing unit, con do
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  Speaker 1: you reckon what kind of a difference do you think
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  Speaker 1: that that would make right now to some of the
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  Speaker 1: issues that we've got with crime and anti social behavior?
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  Speaker 3: Well, look when the look we've got a problem. When
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  Speaker 3: the hospitality industry asked to improve the BDR, when in
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  Speaker 3: the beginning they were totally against it. Obviously themselves know
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  Speaker 3: we've got a problem. These are the people they sell alcohol.
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  Speaker 3: They know we've got the problem. They ask for improved vida.
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  Speaker 3: So you can imagine then how the situation is. Four
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  Speaker 3: thousand visitors and a lot of them are here having
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  Speaker 3: a part of time.
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  Speaker 1: And the police have confirmed that the large majority of
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  Speaker 1: them have gone back now, so I reckon that there's
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  Speaker 1: around a bit undre one thousand that are still in town.
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  Speaker 1: We know that we've got some from morning and it
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  Speaker 1: is you know, luck, You and I again we've spoken
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  Speaker 1: about on numerous occasions.
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  Speaker 2: It's obviously had an impact.
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  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the BDR con Do you
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  Speaker 1: reckon it is time for a review or do you
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  Speaker 1: think that may be.
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  Speaker 3: Talking about it before we talk about the whole measure
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  Speaker 3: software of alcohol red used the time that the alcohol
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  Speaker 3: outlets are open and use the BDR to find out
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  Speaker 3: the people they actually buy alcohol to sell a secutive supply.
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  Speaker 3: If somebody turns up and buy seven bottles of bandy,
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  Speaker 3: come on, he's not going to drink it, He's going
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  Speaker 3: to flog it off. We know that one well, make
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  Speaker 3: the BDR able to identify this one to raise a
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  Speaker 3: red flag if the same person buys this conques and
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  Speaker 3: don't give me the bullshit about privacy. This guy's breaking
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  Speaker 3: the law. It's like a thief calling prophecies. You don't
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  Speaker 3: arrest me, you don't. I'm not going to tell you
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  Speaker 3: where I am because it's privacy. No, you break the law.
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  Speaker 3: There's no privacy there.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you're fired up about it this morning, Coln, and
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  Speaker 1: rightly so. You know, it's something that we've all been
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  Speaker 1: talking about for such a long period of time. I
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  Speaker 1: think we all just want to see some change in
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  Speaker 1: this night.
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  Speaker 3: Just convey the feeling of my constittions. It's not my
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  Speaker 3: only feeling, my personal feeling. It's what people telling me
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  Speaker 3: out in the streets now about the roller doors. Oh.
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  Speaker 3: The argument is it's been instructed to us by the
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  Speaker 3: national laws. I remember when they came to us. Is
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  Speaker 3: you have to have all your roofs black. Really in Darwin,
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  Speaker 3: black roofs in the houses. It might work in Victoria
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  Speaker 3: because you want to keep your house warm in the window,
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  Speaker 3: you put a black roof. In Darwin, you have an oven.
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  Speaker 3: So we argue about it, Okay, so we can still
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  Speaker 3: argue and I say we can still argue because I
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  Speaker 3: was in Perth a few months ago and surprise, surprise,
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  Speaker 3: Cafeterias restaurant the hard roller doors. How can major problem here?
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  Speaker 1: But it's not problem in Western in other places, well
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  Speaker 1: even in Ella Springs, you know they've got roller door there.
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  Speaker 1: I think that it is definitely time for a rethink
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  Speaker 1: on this roller door situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Go back and think about do we do things right?
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I'm doing and probably you heard that.
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  Speaker 3: Actually I'm reconvening the tree committee. We're planting a lot
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  Speaker 3: of trees for the past four years. Now have we
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  Speaker 3: done the right thing? Do we put them the right place?
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  Speaker 3: To We'll put the right trees. So I'm coinite calling
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  Speaker 3: back the committee to heavy look what we've done, to
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  Speaker 3: tell us what we've done it. We've done it. Probably
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  Speaker 3: we've done it. Well, can we do it better? If
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  Speaker 3: we make a decision, it doesn't have to be the
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  Speaker 3: same decision for ten years, go back and have a
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  Speaker 3: look at it.
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  Speaker 2: So com when are you reconvening that tree committee?
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  Speaker 3: It's already started and we're putting out the same present.
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  Speaker 3: I asked for the same player to be there because
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  Speaker 3: we want the corporate knowledge and certainly the communit community
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  Speaker 3: is invited to invited and will be invited through the
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  Speaker 3: media to actually put that.
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  Speaker 2: Let us know when that happens. I do want to
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  Speaker 2: ask you.
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  Speaker 1: I've had a couple of people get in contact with
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  Speaker 1: us about some concerns around the Soup kitchen. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that they sort of pop up in different locations and
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  Speaker 1: now are there to obviously feed the homeless. What is
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  Speaker 1: the situation here or what's the problem?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I think it's admirable that people actually take time
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  Speaker 3: of their life, their busy lives to actually go out
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  Speaker 3: and provide food for people who actually the struggling. The
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  Speaker 3: only problem we've got is where you're going to do
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  Speaker 3: it and how you're going to do it. There are
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  Speaker 3: a lot of public spaces in the territory and in
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  Speaker 3: Darwin that will be used by different groups. One of
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  Speaker 3: the things you have to do by legislation, if you
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  Speaker 3: want to be in a public place to do an event,
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  Speaker 3: you have to apply for a permit today.
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  Speaker 2: So is that all the issue is here?
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  Speaker 3: Well, there's no permit at the moment. Yesterday I met
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  Speaker 3: with representatives of the super Kitchen and I highlighted them
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  Speaker 3: what they have to do. I even told them that
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  Speaker 3: selected a location. If that's not team suitable, council officers
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  Speaker 3: will be very happy to work with you to find
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  Speaker 3: another one. Councils support any activity to support homeless. We've
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  Speaker 3: got our own outreach program. Two people. Council employees go
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  Speaker 3: out every single morning six o'clock, met with homeless, meet
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  Speaker 3: with people in need, tell them to where to go,
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  Speaker 3: what to to find services, refer them to services. So
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  Speaker 3: we're doing already something. Now.
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  Speaker 2: The hind with them is that they just need.
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  Speaker 3: We had the Hindu gentleman who was driving his van
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  Speaker 3: around fitting the people. Never had the problem with them.
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  Speaker 3: We had the super kitchen down at the doctor's galley.
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  Speaker 3: There was no problem with that one. The proposal is
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  Speaker 3: to put one in the esplanade. Will tell us exactly where.
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  Speaker 3: But you have to apply for a permit and fulfill
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  Speaker 3: the requirements of a permit. So it's it's it's proper
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  Speaker 3: and legal, cover yourself and country has to cover itself
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  Speaker 3: to public liability events that might take place. Weddings another
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if we're asking the glendee and Indiant middle
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  Speaker 3: to actually apply for a permit. I think that's fair
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  Speaker 3: enough for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you've got to apply for a permit, even if
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  Speaker 1: I think I've applied for one before to have a
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  Speaker 1: kid's birthday. Just at each point at one of the
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  Speaker 1: barbecues there, you know, you do have to apply to
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  Speaker 1: have a you know, a permit at those different locations
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  Speaker 1: so we can.
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  Speaker 3: Clean up the place before you go and clean it afterwards.
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  Speaker 3: Necessary the issue of public ability to come to us,
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  Speaker 3: because if you do something there don't have your permit,
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  Speaker 3: then how you're going to coverage something goes wrong.
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  Speaker 2: So the issue is just purely a permit.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly what you want to do, apply for a permit,
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  Speaker 3: and if the place you suggest it's not suitable for
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  Speaker 3: various reasons, we will work with you to find a.
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  Speaker 1: Suitable place conjust very quickly because we have just about
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  Speaker 1: run out of time. But I know that you did.
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  Speaker 1: There was a delegation to Indonesia. It was all about
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  Speaker 1: sort of looking at our workforce shortage that we've got
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  Speaker 1: here in the Northern Territory and whether we may be
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  Speaker 1: able to bring people across.
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  Speaker 2: How did it go.
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  Speaker 3: We are a sister city with den Pasar, and it
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  Speaker 3: was an initiative by the city of den Pasar because
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  Speaker 3: they've got workers that don't have tourists, and we have
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  Speaker 3: tourists who don't have workers. So we are at a
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  Speaker 3: delegation there and the Chamber of Commerce, the hospitality industry,
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  Speaker 3: the Agricultural Association, ENTG, the university and the private training
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  Speaker 3: providers came with us. It was a very very good delegation.
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  Speaker 3: We're welcome with open arms because they need to actually
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  Speaker 3: have people employed. We brought with us the person who's
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  Speaker 3: responsible for the migration program here in an auitary to government,
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  Speaker 3: and yesterday I spoke to Luk Costling and I said
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  Speaker 3: to him we did a bit now trying to bring
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  Speaker 3: workers to Darwin. The commas do their bit and actually
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  Speaker 3: find out what stops workers coming under the current migration
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  Speaker 3: provisions make them easier for balley people to come here
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  Speaker 3: the way you did for the Pacific Islanders to come
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  Speaker 3: to pick up fruits.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let us know how it helps. We're very keen
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  Speaker 2: to find out.
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  Speaker 1: Combat Scalus, Lord Mayor of Darwin, good to speak with
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  Speaker 1: you this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for you Tom, good morning, thank you