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Hutton & Withrow: Jared Stillman Speaks Out After Tennessee Titans Revoke His Media Credential | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 2: little bit scarred by last week, but you know what
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  Speaker 2: they say, Hutton. Week zero doesn't really count. That's not
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  Speaker 2: going on my permanent record that I got one out
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  Speaker 2: of three right in my parlay. Why?
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  Speaker 3: Because we didn't know anything about those teams, right? It's
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  Speaker 3: week zero. It's too early.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I have a little something for you. It's week one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know anything about these teams because they haven't
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  Speaker 3: played yet. But guess what?
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  Speaker 2: We're winning this week, baby.
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  Speaker 3: We're all winning.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, we don't know much about these teams, but we
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  Speaker 1: know who they're playing. We know these teams who they're playing.
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  Speaker 2: We know who they're playing. We know that Colorado in
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  Speaker 2: those practice videos– look like a 1A high school football
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  Speaker 2: team in Idaho with their size. They're not a big
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  Speaker 2: football team. Georgia Tech, physical with Brent Key. Georgia Tech
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  Speaker 2: will physically pound the hell out of Colorado on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 2: Give me Georgia Tech minus six and a half against Colorado.
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  Speaker 2: That's the opener Thursday night football in college in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: Give me Georgia Tech at home minus six and a
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  Speaker 2: half Give me Alabama. I think they're going to do
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  Speaker 2: a lot in Keelan Russell's debut. I know that everybody's
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  Speaker 2: talking about the heat in that game. It's going to
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  Speaker 2: be very hot. It's going to be very hot everywhere.
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  Speaker 3: Middle of the day. It's an 11 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Kickoff central time against East Carolina. I like Alabama to
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  Speaker 2: win and win by four touchdowns or more. They're a
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  Speaker 2: 27.5 point favorite in that one. And Jacob Lutz.
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky Wildcats. Will Stein's debut.
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  Speaker 2: Kenny Minchie, a player I highlighted as one I'm.
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  Speaker 3: Anxious to see.
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  Speaker 2: Hutton, shockingly, this is the fourth smallest line of the
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  Speaker 2: weekend in In the SEC. 23.5 against Youngstown State. Youngstown State,
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  Speaker 2: a good FCS program. But do you know what Kentucky plays?
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  Speaker 2: They play in the Southeastern Conference. It's not FCS. It
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  Speaker 2: is a home debut for Will Stein. He is going
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  Speaker 2: to look to impress. He's going to do a lot
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  Speaker 2: with Kenny Minchey and his offense. Give me the Wildcats.
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  Speaker 2: Minus 23.5 to route Youngstown State and Will Stein's debut.
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  Speaker 2: So again, parlay. Georgia Tech minus 6.5 on Thursday. Alabama
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  Speaker 2: minus 27.5 Saturday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Kentucky minus 23.5.
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  Speaker 2: That game at noon Central time, 1 o'clock Eastern on Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: Chad, I know typically you look at these huge spreads.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, man, that's a lot of points. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know about you. I normally lay the points. I normally
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  Speaker 1: go with the favorite.
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  Speaker 3: The giant favorite? Yeah, normally, normally.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I really considered like Missouri is a 51
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  Speaker 2: and a half point favorite against Arkansas Pine Bluff. And
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  Speaker 2: I considered making them one of the teams because we've
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  Speaker 2: seen Drinkwits, especially in that night game, which he's got
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  Speaker 2: one of those again to open the season, just unleash
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  Speaker 2: hell on a team like Arkansas Pine Bluff in the past.
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  Speaker 3: So I could see them winning like, you know.
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  Speaker 2: 80 to three, 70 something to 10 in the game
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  Speaker 2: and covering that spread easily.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of with you. I mean, there are giant lines.
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  Speaker 3: There's a line right there.
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  Speaker 2: All over the place. The Kirby Allen Kirby special, too,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, Ohio State and Ball State. Ohio State
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  Speaker 2: is a 50-and-a-half point favorite against Ball State in Week 1.
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  Speaker 2: You're seeing the SEC lines right now. 48-and-a-half for Tennessee. Arkansas,
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  Speaker 2: 40-and-a-half over North Alabama. Vanderbilt, a 30-plus point. favorite, Oklahoma
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  Speaker 2: 41.5 against Utah.
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  Speaker 3: 48.5 for Tennessee. It is brutal.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, what Vegas is telling us, Hutton, is there
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  Speaker 2: are three games in the Southeastern Conference worth watching. Now,
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  Speaker 2: one may surprise us and be a little bit closer
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  Speaker 2: than we thought.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I lose the Kentucky-Youngstown State bet, and Youngstown State
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  Speaker 2: is playing with Kentucky into the second half. But the
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  Speaker 2: three games worth watching are LSU-Clemson, Ole Miss-Louisville, and Auburn-Baylor
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  Speaker 2: down in Mercedes-Benz Stadium in Atlanta. And that's about it
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  Speaker 2: this first weekend. The rest are giant lines. And it's
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  Speaker 2: really that way across college football. Oregon and Boise State
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  Speaker 2: is pretty interesting. You know, just kind of an off-the-radar
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  Speaker 2: game to start. But Oregon's a 24.5-point favorite. But that's,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Boise State's a team that could contend for
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  Speaker 2: that group of five playoffs berth. So that's one to watch. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of blowout city in week one.
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  Speaker 3: What is the spread, you said, for Kentucky and Youngstown?
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  Speaker 2: 23.5, Kentucky.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know how Kentucky managed to pull this off,
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  Speaker 1: but they're scheduled to start the season.
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  Speaker 3: Dear Lord. They've got Youngstown.
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  Speaker 1: If they're not going to blow out an opponent in
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  Speaker 1: Youngstown State, they're hosting Alabama the following week. And then
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  Speaker 1: they're visiting College Station.
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  Speaker 3: Tough.
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  Speaker 1: So they play Alabama and A & M two of
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  Speaker 1: the first three weeks of the season. That's unheard of
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  Speaker 1: right now in the SEC programs.
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  Speaker 2: To me, any time you have that Week 2 SEC game,
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  Speaker 2: it completely puts your schedule out of hand.
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  Speaker 3: It's a wacky deal. Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Remember for years it was always Georgia and South Carolina
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  Speaker 2: playing Week 2?
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  Speaker 3: Georgia and South Carolina, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, they're playing before anybody else plays. They
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  Speaker 2: get one SEC game under their belt. It's huge if
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  Speaker 2: you win it, but it also, when you look at
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  Speaker 2: the schedule, it's so front-loaded. When you start early, when
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  Speaker 2: you start with three non-conference games... in a row, it
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  Speaker 2: really makes the front end of the schedule usually like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: we're 3-0. If you're a decent SEC team, it's like.
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  Speaker 3: It's a preseason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but when you ramp up the other way and
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  Speaker 2: you're playing SEC games early, it makes a big difference.
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  Speaker 3: Now, with the rule that you've got.
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  Speaker 2: To play a power conference opponent, everyone does, you're going
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  Speaker 2: to get at least one test, you would think. I
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  Speaker 2: would say Vandy has the easiest of tests.
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  Speaker 3: I agree. They host NC State.
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  Speaker 2: Good season to schedule NC State from what I saw
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  Speaker 2: in Charlottesville in their game against Virginia this past weekend.
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  Speaker 3: So that should be a good one for Vandy.
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  Speaker 2: But, yeah, it's definitely an imbalanced schedule when you look
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  Speaker 2: at that when you're playing that SEC game early, and
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be tough for Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: Throw that graphic back up, JT, because I want to
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  Speaker 1: see these huge valleys that are the spreads here. So, like, Chad,
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  Speaker 1: right now, just first glance, I'm taking Alabama like you have.
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking Kentucky. I'm taking Texas in this game against
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  Speaker 1: Texas state. I would take, I mean, at this point
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  Speaker 1: tech take a and M at home against Missouri state,
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  Speaker 1: but like even Tennessee 48 and a half seems so
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  Speaker 1: steep with who they're starting at quarterback of the debuts.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, again, there's no reason why that game's not 52,
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  Speaker 1: three 52, nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I think the only ones I would hesitate of the
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  Speaker 2: big ones to take, like I would really probably go
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  Speaker 2: the other way. Um, Arkansas because so many unknowns. I
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  Speaker 2: know nothing about North Alabama. Go to Kelly in Vegas.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have all your North Alabama info you need later today.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure she knows their entire depth chart.
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  Speaker 3: On Tilt is coming up.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 2: On Tilt will have you covered with that one. I
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  Speaker 2: know nothing about UTEP either. On Tilt will have you
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  Speaker 2: covered with all UTEP minor info later in the day
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  Speaker 2: as well. But Oklahoma, not the type of team to
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  Speaker 2: typically blow out.
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  Speaker 3: An opponent early. I would also say Georgia.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia's going to win easily, but Georgia's going to get
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  Speaker 2: up five touchdowns and completely take the foot off the
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  Speaker 2: gas and run the ball the rest of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Do they cover 45.5 against TSU?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Those are the only ones I'm even considering.
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  Speaker 1: Might as well, man. But see, look at the smaller
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  Speaker 1: ones now. LSU, 10.5 Clemson.
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  Speaker 3: Ole Miss, 6.5.
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  Speaker 1: I would bet on Louisville. to beat Ole Miss before
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  Speaker 1: Clemson even comes close to touching LSU.
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  Speaker 2: You know something that we haven't even considered in looking
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  Speaker 2: at this? Because I would take LSU minus 10.5.
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  Speaker 3: Me too.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Missouri up to 54.5 now against Arkansas
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  Speaker 2: Pine Bluff. What's the biggest point spread? we've ever seen?
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  Speaker 2: On Tilt, we'll have you with that one too.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great question.
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  Speaker 2: I'm asking this question to Kelly and Ariel and Joe
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  Speaker 2: right now. Later in the day, have us the biggest
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  Speaker 2: college football point spread of the point spread era.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Of online wagering. Let's get with Hard Rock Bet. Let's
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  Speaker 2: figure out what it is. Because Missouri-Arkansas Pine Bluff has
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  Speaker 2: to be challenging for that record. At 54.5 points. Something
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  Speaker 2: we haven't even considered, Hutton, that I haven't even thought about.
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  Speaker 2: Hasn't crossed my mind until right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. What if Clemson beats LSU? Oh.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, Dabo Sweeney.
• 10:32
  Speaker 3: Dabo. God's favorite warrior. Dabo Sweeney.
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: Man. If he goes in and beats LSU with all
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: this talk about Kiffin the villain and all they're trying
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: to do, I'm not even considering that as a possibility.
• 10:45
  Speaker 3: It's a 10.5 point spread. I'm not either. It's possible.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: I think he's giving way too much respect to Clemson.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: No one's thinking about Clemson right now, right?
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  Speaker 3: No.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: For a team that every year was top five for,
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: felt like a decade straight, you know, in the preseason,
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  Speaker 2: and now they're not even a consideration.
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  Speaker 1: Jared Stillman, the host of Stillman & Company, had his
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  Speaker 1: credential revoked by the Tennessee Titans. All because he, well,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't say this specifically because of this, but all
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  Speaker 1: because he dared ask a question to their coddled quarterback, apparently.
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  Speaker 1: They said they're not coddling him. Certainly seems that way.
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  Speaker 1: We've got that straight ahead. Jared Stillman joins us next.
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  Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans for taking a story and making
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  Speaker 1: it national. And that's exactly what they've done with Jared Stillman.
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  Speaker 1: They removed the Stillman & Company credential from covering practices
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  Speaker 1: and press conferences. And they took a host from a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube channel and also a SiriusXM host. away from covering
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  Speaker 1: their team. Jared Stillman joins us here on the program
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  Speaker 1: after asking, how dare you, Jared? Asking the second-year quarterback
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  Speaker 1: how he would assess his training camp thus far. And
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  Speaker 1: he asked a question to you, which you responded with,
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  Speaker 1: I thought, very well and fair. And what, less than
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  Speaker 1: a week later, on the eve of the press conference
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  Speaker 1: with the general manager, you no longer have a credential
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  Speaker 1: to go ask a question.
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  Speaker 3: Coincidence?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I guess you'd have to ask them
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  Speaker 4: that question and not me.
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  Speaker 5: I would just say this.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, the Tennessee Titans have really tried over the
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  Speaker 4: years lately to control the message. And they've done a
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  Speaker 4: really good job of trying to control the message by
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: managing the messengers. And I've never really been one to
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: play that game, just like you guys have never been
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  Speaker 4: ones to play that game. And so for me, I
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  Speaker 4: was disappointed by the Titans' decision.
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  Speaker 5: I understood it. I accepted it.
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  Speaker 4: But I just think that this is another example of
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  Speaker 4: why this team wins three games a year when other
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  Speaker 4: teams are competing for the playoffs and the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: Did they tell you that your credential was revoked because
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  Speaker 1: of the question to Cam Ward?
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 4: I was given a couple different reasons. Number one, I'm
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  Speaker 4: just a YouTuber. I'm not on a radio station anymore.
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  Speaker 3: Just a YouTuber, by the way.
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  Speaker 2: One of the biggest platforms on the planet.
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  Speaker 4: I did say, you know, when they called me, I
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  Speaker 4: was like, well, I did just do three hours of
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  Speaker 4: SiriusXM radio. And they said, yeah, well, you know, you
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  Speaker 4: don't need to be in the building to be able
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  Speaker 4: to do that SiriusXM job, which, okay, fine.
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  Speaker 5: Um, I mean, it's still an outlet.
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  Speaker 4: Like I, it's still a nationally recognized outlet, but whatever. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: I think to me, they said it was more the
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  Speaker 4: totality of my, uh, coverage that there wasn't any one incident.
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  Speaker 4: And let me be frank. I'm very hard on the
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  Speaker 4: football team. But the football team's done a lot for
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  Speaker 4: me to be very hard on them for. And it
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  Speaker 4: seems like every year the Titans come up with some
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: new philosophy or they have some sort of new idea.
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  Speaker 4: They feel like they've reinvented the wheel.
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  Speaker 5: It doesn't add up. It doesn't make sense for success.
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  Speaker 4: And quite frankly, I'm sick and tired of hearing all
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  Speaker 4: of those new players or new coaches or new general
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  Speaker 4: managers or new free agent signings or new draft picks
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  Speaker 4: that are going to save this team.
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  Speaker 5: And I'd like to see some results.
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  Speaker 4: And they go out against the Seahawks and they get
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  Speaker 4: absolutely waxed by the Seattle backups.
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  Speaker 5: And then after the game, the coach is like, well, it's.
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  Speaker 4: A good thing that we gave up that 35 yard
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  Speaker 4: touchdown against the Seattle backups.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm like, I'm done hearing this crap.
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  Speaker 4: I've been hearing this stuff from the Titans for the
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  Speaker 4: last four or five years. They have been terrible. They
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  Speaker 4: keep getting worse. And yet I guess I'm the problem. So,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, um, If they have a great season
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  Speaker 4: this year, then we can all say, you know, it
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  Speaker 4: was when they got rid of that turd in the
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  Speaker 4: punch bowl, Jared Stillman. And if they stink, I think
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  Speaker 4: a lot of people are going to say after week
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  Speaker 4: two or three, maybe you should have worried about winning
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  Speaker 4: games and not about Jared Stillman.
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  Speaker 3: Who actually made the phone call to you, Jared?
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  Speaker 4: So it was the PR director of the Titans, Everett Geerling.
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  Speaker 4: He's a really, really good guy.
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  Speaker 5: He really is.
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  Speaker 4: And I even told him at the end of the conversation,
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  Speaker 4: Cause I let him go on and he said, you know, Hey,
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  Speaker 4: like we've decided that, uh, you know, we don't feel
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  Speaker 4: like you, uh, need access to the building for press
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  Speaker 4: conferences and practices. Uh, we just feel like at this point,
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  Speaker 4: you know, it's probably, I don't want to have to
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  Speaker 4: have this conversation. This is an unfun conversations are not
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  Speaker 4: fun conversation to have, but, and I let him go on.
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: And then I was like, okay, it's my turn now.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: And I said to him, You know, I'm a fan
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: of this team and I'll be a fan of this
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: team after you're gone because that's how this works. But
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: I understand you got a job to do and I
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: understand you have bosses. And I told him in the end,
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: I said, hey, I want you to know I still
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: consider you a friend. Like, I feel like this decision
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: was made above him. And as is the case with
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: the Titans, he is just victim number 800 of this
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: new trend they have of making somebody else answer for
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: somebody else's decision. We saw this when they fired John
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Robinson and they sent Vrabel out to the podium to
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: answer questions about it. That's kind of a Titan thing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: So I don't hold this against Everett. Again, I consider
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: him a friend. I think he's a very good guy.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that I'm upset about it or
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: anything like that. He's just doing his job.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: I've seen so many allegations online. Stillman, I'm far too
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: online when it comes to this topic today of what
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: people are claiming and what people are saying about your
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: coverage and, you know, oh, good riddance, and this is
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: a message to all media that covers the Titans, that
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: if you're not on board with the team, then they're
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: going to get rid of you too because the fans
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: have spoken, and they wanted Stillman out of that building
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: because they were disrupting their Titans.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: One allegation I want.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: To ask you about specifically was that you would show
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: up to a press conference, and you'd have a pre-planned
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: question that you knew was going to be your topic
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: for your show that day. That you were a provocateur
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: that went there to stir things up with one question,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: and that if you were going in randomly to ask
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: one question that was going to be the topic on
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: your show, that that bothered Titans fans. Doesn't really bother me,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: but how do you respond to this allegation?
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Does anybody do anything without thinking about doing it before
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: they go do it?
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I would also say this for all the people saying
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: you guys do stuff for clicks, you guys do stuff
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: for views. Well, duh, that's the business we live in now, right?
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: That's what everyone in media.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: Does in part.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: It's not about lying. It's not about being inauthentic. But
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: what we do is trying to build an audience at
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: all times, whether that be responding to a text message
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: from someone. or responding to a DM, or responding to
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: someone who's yelling at you on social media. Everything we
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: do is about engagement. That's what you do also, Jared.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Your question is like in general, too. Like, do you
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: do anything without preparation and foresight, right? The Titans don't.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, Jared, what they're saying is you.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: Were doing something to provoke them to get a bad response,
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a negative response, so you could go on your show
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: and build the show around it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I absolutely was going to press conferences
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: to ask questions about topics I was going to discuss.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, that is just wow.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: You're not the first either. How dare you?
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: How dare you?
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: I know plenty of columnists and beat writers of the
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: team that have asked specific questions over and over because
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: they want to write a column about it.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: Here's what I'll say.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I have never believed in assuming what somebody is going
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: to say or saying something for them. So if I've
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: got an issue with something on the team, I may
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: ask about it, but it's ultimately up to you, the player, you,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: the coach, you, the general manager, it's up to you
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: for what you want to say about it. And that's
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: on them. You know, that's not, I'm not making answers
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: for you guys, like talking about you guys, the players
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: or the coaches or whatever. I think that oftentimes in
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: press conferences, I hear questions that are asked where the
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: person asking the question doesn't want to anger me. the
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: subject that's being asked a question. So they try to
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: kind of couch their question and it almost gives an
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: easy out for the subject being asked the question. And
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: I just believe in very short, open-ended questions that are
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: very direct. And then that way it's like, okay, you
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: can answer it one way or the other. You can
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: either be accountable for why you lost the game or
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: you can make an excuse for why you lost the game.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But if I just ask, why do you think you
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: lost the game?
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: Now it's on you. Talking about you, the subject.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And it's no longer me trying to make an excuse
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: in the question for you or lead you to my opinion.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: And I think that I would say that I take
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: umbrage with the idea that I was going to press conferences,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: taking the mic and saying, OK, everybody, like and subscribe
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: to the Stillman and Company podcast on the 440 Sports Network.
• 20:55
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• 20:58
  Speaker 4: And tune in tomorrow at two o'clock.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: How do you feel about running the football today? Like
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: that's not.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: For a plug, by the way. Expert plug there.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: You got to plug it. I like it.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: But that's not what I was doing.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Like, but again, they made their decision and I don't know,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: you know, look, I don't know how permanent this is
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: going to be or how not permanent this is going
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: to be. I, I don't know.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: Like one follow up here.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Like, do you care?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: You can't go to Titans practice anymore.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: How does this really affect your job of what you
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: do as an opinionist?
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: So I like going to OTAs and practices and, and
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Paul Kaharski wrote this in the story. about how I'm
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: there a lot for OTAs, I'm there a lot for
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: training camp practices, I'm not there as much throughout the
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: course of the season.
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: And that's because, well.
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: We can watch the games on TV, so I don't
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: need to go there throughout the course of the season.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: But I do like to go to OTAs, and I
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: do like to go to training camp practices that are
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: not open to the public, or are not live-streamed or
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: anything like that. I like to see things and to
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: have opinions, and.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: I'm going to miss that if I end up not
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: getting that back. But to answer your question, I don't
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: really need to be around the Titans to get a
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: feel for the team.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: Are you fighting for this to back? You're acting like
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you're trying to get this thing back.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: They should.
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: No.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: You should want this back. This is bullshit.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Well, so I do, you know, again, I like to
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: go to OTAs and I like to go to practices
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: during training camp just to see how the team's going
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: to do or how they did in a joint practice
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: But I guess I'm kind of indifferent.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: No, Jared, if this happened to anybody else. everybody would be,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: the media would be just up in arms over this.
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: Well, you know who would be up in arms if
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: this happened to anybody else?
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Me.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: If this happened to anybody else, if this happened to Kaharski,
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: or if this happened to anybody, I would say you
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: guys are soft.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: And that's the moral of the story here.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Let's also credit Kaharski and Joe Rexroad, guys that have
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: gotten into the past that said this is soft, this
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: is BS by the Titans, whether you agree with Jared
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: or not.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: It's a BS move.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: So I'll give some credit to people who are saying
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: it is BS, which I agree with.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: But I don't try to give credit because that's how
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: it should be whenever you're covering a team who's won
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: six games over the past two years, what, nine regular
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: season wins over the last 50? Jared, was it Burke
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: or Kate that revoked your credential?
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Well, I don't know because, again, I talked to Everett,
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: the PR guy, who is beneath both of them, so
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you who on the list it was.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: That's kind of been a topic of discussion amongst people
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I've had today, which is kind of, who ultimately called
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: for the Code Red?
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Is this because you invoked the name of Jared Puffer?
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: I don't think so.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I was surprised that the Titans actually hadn't called me
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: about that earlier, which I felt fine about doing when
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: I did.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: My gut... See, I hate this. I think Puff.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Would have just called you. I think Puff would have
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: called you. I know Puff pretty well. And I haven't
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: heard from him. But whenever I heard that, I'm like, ooh.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Now you've opened up the door to somebody who will
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: talk back to you.
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: Well, I like Puff. I mean, I like Puff.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: But if you throw 98 at me, I'm throwing 98
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: at you.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. But you can't throw 98 at Burke Nihill.
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: When you ask the question of who do I think
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: it was.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: This is the stuff I hate because people, one of
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: the things that the Titans said to me is they're like, well,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: you just speculate on stuff and you have conspiracy theories.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And it's like when this organization has lied as often
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: as they have lied to the media, it's hard to
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: take them at their word. They lied about Mike Malarkey.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: You guys were there. They lied about Mike Vrabel, Diana Rossini.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: said reported on thanksgiving at 2023 that vrabel wasn't getting
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: fired and i said i don't believe it because they
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: lied about the last coach and then at the end
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: of the year vrabel got fired so i just again
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: i never nobody knows what's going on there so all
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: i think i can do is speculate so what i'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: about to say would be a speculation but i think
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: it came from the top.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah of course it did and who is ownership right
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: now burke.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Nihil i think it might have come above him Burt Nihill.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Is the one that is speaking on behalf of ownership.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: We know that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: But he's not the owner.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: You think he came from the owner, through Burt, from
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: the owner to Burt, down to the plebe, who had
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: to then make the call, who probably wasn't their decision
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: at all, and had to talk to you for an
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: hour about, hey, man, sorry we're doing this. It's a
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: collection of things. By the way, if you want people
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to believe it's a collection of things... You cannot do
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: this and make this move immediately after you have a
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: back and forth with the quarterback. Everyone rightfully is going
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to assume it's because of that. And then when a
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: media relations person fires something at you and then you
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: fire back on your show, obviously everyone's going to assume
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: that's the reason for this.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: It's the last thing that happened.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that this is, and this is one
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: thing where I do feel bad about this. I don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: feel bad for me, but I do feel bad that
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: if Cam gets off to a bad start, not only
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: do I think this is going to follow Cam, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to follow Cam nationally.
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: Like, I think this is going.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: To be something.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: You cannot feel bad about this.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: No, no.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: No, I do.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: I'm going to.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Counsel you right now, Stilvan. We've known you for years.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: You absolutely cannot feel bad about this. I understand you're
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: a Titans fan. Hutton and I would love to see
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: the Titans win. be functional and competent and do well.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: It would be great. We'd love to see that happen.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Bottom line is they haven't been functional or competent or
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: a well organization for a while.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: This is not on you.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And anything that follows Cam Ward, I don't think Cam
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Ward had anything to do with this decision, by the way.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think he said a word about it when
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: he was done. I don't think he got you revoked
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: or anything like that.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: Here's what really intrigues me.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Robert Sala was known for getting way into the weeds
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: with media in New York.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: Way too much.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: And now the media watches from a corner across three
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: football fields or something here.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: And this is happening and this is happening and that's happening.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: I don't feel sorry for you, Jared. And I understand
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: what you're saying when you say that. I feel sorry
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: for the media that continues to cover this team because
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: now we just have a softer media because of this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: There's more control. See what happened to Jared Stillman? It
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: can happen to you.
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: I think that that's kind of the gist.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Gentry Estes in the Tennessean absolutely murdered the Titans with
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: that line as well. I actually want to read this
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: because I don't know if you guys saw this from
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: Gentry in his column in the Tennessean.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: I haven't seen it, so I want to hear it.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: So he, and I want to make sure I get
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: this right because you know how it is if you
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: misquote something and you ruin the punchline. Quote, What's next?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: Cutting off power to the scoreboards at Nissan Stadium on Sundays?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: Because I tell you, those scoreboards have been saying some
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: hurtful negative things about the Titans.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: It's a good line. That's a well-done gentry. It's good.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: But I do feel like there are a lot of
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: people in the media that think to themselves, well, hold on,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: wait a minute. If they can just come up with
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: some sort of finagled reason as to why Jared's got
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: to go, then if they get mad at me, they
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: can come up with some finagled reason as to why
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I have to go, too.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: And.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: The Titans have been trending in this direction for years
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: and years.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: I mean, when they named Ramone Foster, who is as in.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: The bag for the franchise, for a guy who never
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: played for the team as you could possibly be, as
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: their radio analyst, the messaging was clear. positive, positive, positive.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: You recite what we tell you to recite. All of
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: our coaches are good. All of our general managers are
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: good until the day we fire them.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: And then they were all bad. We live in.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Titan land where John Robinson, who won 61% of his
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: games is bad, but Mike Borgonzi, who's three and 14
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: is good. And that's the stuff I'm too intellectually honest
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: for that.
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: And it's just sad.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They haven't won back-to-back games since John Robinson was the
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: general manager.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: Insane stuff.
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: I think I saw you tweet that out today, Chad.
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, is that true?
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: The Jets won back-to-back games last year.
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: Oh, my God.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Hutton's been saying it, and I just repeated exactly what
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Hutton said on the show.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: I've been shouting this on rooftop. And I was like,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: this cannot be real. Because these are facts. These are facts.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: How about instead of talking about, hey, this team's going
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: to get better every week, and every week that's our
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: floor because we're going to continue to– how about worrying
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: about beating the Jets with Geno Smith at quarterback and
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: with Aaron Glenn at head coach?
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: How about beating the Jets?
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: This is the problem, too, which is when they hype
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: up Cam as much as they've hyped up Cam, when
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: they've ignored how poorly Cam has played, and then Cam
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: goes out there again this year. If Cam doesn't play well,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: all of this is going to come back. All the
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: overhyping they've done, the unretiring Warren Moons jersey, everything. They're
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: not taking the trade with the Giants. It's all going
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: to come back on them, and it's all going to
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: come back on Cam. And that's where I'm not sure
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: that this is fair to Cam, because everybody's going to
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: assume that what happened Thursday between Cam and I is.
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: What led to the Titans' decision today.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: And if Cam has a bad game, people are going
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: to say, oh, well, you can't ask him tough questions.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: And I don't know that it's fair for Cam to
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: be in the middle.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Of all that.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think Cam complained. Yeah, I don't think
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he was part of this either. I'm not saying he
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: answered it well. But he did answer a question after
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: he asked you what you thought.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think Cam's, you know, how he handled
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: it at the podium could have been better. I know, Chad,
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: you harped on that the other day, and people got
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: just as mad at you as they get at me.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, I'm still seeing it all the time.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I'm being canceled by Titans fans everywhere for saying I-ass.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Is it too much to ask the starting quarterback to
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: just be honest about how he played?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: No, your question was not unreasonable at all. Let's put
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that out there. People can say whatever they want, but
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: the facts are the facts. If you go back and listen,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: you weren't confrontational. You weren't screaming at him. You asked
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: him how he would assess his play in the preseason.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: He responded to that with a pithy little question back
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: to you about how you would grade it. You answered
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: honestly and said, not well. And then it went, I'm
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: just like, there was nothing wrong with that line of questioning.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: And Jared, you had asked him previous weeks earlier about
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the we ask comment. And he actually thinks you, he
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: actually said that's a good question or something, right?
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I mean, I asked about his Netflix documentary, which had
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: just come out. And I mean, look, I came up of,
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: if you're going to talk, if you're going to criticize,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: be available. Be available so that if somebody wants to
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: call you and light you up, let them do it.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: If you go to a press conference and someone wants
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: to take you to the side and just rip your
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: rear end, be available. That's what I've believed in. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: that's why I would go. And so now, I guess
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: I'm just some YouTuber out there and... You know, one
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: of the, one of the funny things is, is I
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: launched my pod one year ago today and anybody, you guys,
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: I'm sure went through this at some point, but anybody
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: who's kind of, you know, gone from one thing that
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: they had done for 10 years to go into another thing,
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: there is a feeling of, you know, is this going
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: to work? Am I going to fail? Am I going
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: to matter? Am I going to Well, you can say
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: whatever you want about me. You can't say that my
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: show doesn't matter or that they're not listening or the
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: things that people love to say to try to downplay
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: me or the program or YouTube or whatever because clearly
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: they've heard it and clearly they didn't like it and
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: clearly it affected them.
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: So at least I feel.
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: Confident that my show is doing what i'm trying to
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: do which is to entertain people and get people to watch.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: I just said not to not to uh make your
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: head any larger jared but i i think i've told
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: you whenever i went in for my interview for play-by-play
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: i was given a tour and on that tour i
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: heard your voice when they were listening to your show.
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: And that takes me back to kind of my big
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: thesis with this team is they need to worry about
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: winning games.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Yes they do Block out the noise.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: It's hard to do that if you're Titans Entertainment instead
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of Titans football.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Remove the distractions. Do all the things.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: Coaches love to talk about that, but they do not
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: practice what they preach when it comes to this.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: And let me tell you this also, Jared. I think
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: it's a great thing for your career.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Clay Travis got banned from CNN for saying he liked
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: the First.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Amendment and boobs.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: And has not been back since. And he became a
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: billionaire based off that. I mean, his career took off
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: from getting banned from something. So I really think you
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: should play this up. And if you play it well,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: who knows? You could be a billionaire very soon also.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: So I asked somebody today in the local press corps,
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: I said, here's the million-dollar question. Do you think the
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: start of OTAs next year that I will be invited
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: back to Titans practice?
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: No.
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: No.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, they'll have fired someone within the building and reached
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: out back to you, yes.
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: I think yes.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Is Amy Adams Strunk still the owner?
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: Burke Nihill won't be the owner.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Well, at one point, Chad Withrow came on my radio
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: show and said the team was going to be sold,
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: and then the team got mad at me for Chad
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: saying it.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: It's going to happen.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Amy Adams Strunk isn't the one listening to your show every.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Day, Jared.
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: That is. Again, I don't know. I like every interaction
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: I've ever had with Amy. I like Amy.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: And I do feel like Amy wants the same thing
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: I want, which is the same thing you guys want,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: which is the.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Titans to win.
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: She's not the one obsessed with you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: But I think she's made mistakes as an owner. I
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: think we all can admit that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Not this one.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: I don't have a problem.
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: With Amy Adamstrunk, I don't know if Amy Adamstrunk has
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: a problem with me or not.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's pretty clear some people over there have
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: a pretty big problem with you. I think those people
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: are pretty high up. Let's state the facts of the
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: matter here. They've got some real issues with you. And
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: she may be nice to your face, but if she's
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: hearing what you're saying from Burke Nihill or anyone else,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: she definitely isn't liking it. Hey, we talked about this
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: earlier in the show today. In fact, Jared, I think
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: it's a law of diminishing returns of what accessibility is.
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: actually means or matters for media in today's age, especially
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: when teams are going to treat media the way the
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Titans treat media in terms of limiting that access. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: just don't know, especially if you're asked to send out
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: ticket promos on behalf of the team in order to
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: keep your access or gain access.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the fans get from that ultimately.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the media member or a show
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: host like yourself, I don't know what you gain from
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: that either. So I say all this to say, I
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: just don't think this is a big negative.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think this is a big negative either, but
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean that this is how I wanted it
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: to go down. But I think I feel pretty certain
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: that I'm not going to change.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: I still have to say this is a big negative
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: because the press corps just lost a guy who will
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: show up and ask a question. How do you think
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: your preseason's gone so far?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: They don't have that anymore. They're being told they'll be
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: revoked if they ask the question. That's why it's a negative.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: It's a huge negative, actually.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: So I listened to the general manager's press conference yesterday,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: and I was listening to it pretty intently because I
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: knew what was coming on my show and the rest
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: of the day. So I was listening to the general
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: manager's press conference. I did wonder if someone was going
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: to ask the GM about this. But as I was
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: listening to the press conference, I didn't hear a single
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: question asked about, Mike– What did you think of your
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: starters getting absolutely smoked by San Francisco and Seattle's backups?
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: And by the way, that happened. Like I know the
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: Titans say it doesn't matter that it happened. I know
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: Cam says that he doesn't evaluate it like that. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: know Robert Sala said it's a good thing that Kevin
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: Winston gave up that touchdown to Seattle. I know that
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: they said it was a good thing that Seattle ran
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: 66 yards up the middle for a touchdown.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Those things happened. Like it happened. We all saw it.
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: It was on TV.
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: Now, I don't know if the Titans are going to
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: try to block me from watching TV here in the
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: future or not.
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: But it happened. We all saw it.
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: And it's as if nobody's going to ask the general
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: manager who's talking about how this was a great training
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: camp and this team is ready to compete.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Compete. Couldn't even compete with the backups. Compete. So, and
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: I don't want to, you know, I like the press corps.
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: They got nothing. You like them too?
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: It's not about individuals.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: It's about what they're allowing to be asked and what
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: they're allowing to be answered.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I just wonder... Is this going to be a story
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: when the Titans start off 0-2?
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, yes, because some fans will make it a story. But,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, it just– it's another example of an organization
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: who has completely lost their way in that football is
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: not the first thing. It's such a self-inflicted, unforced error
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: by the organization to do this and bring negative publicity
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: on them. I think it's a huge mistake, but– You
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: better watch out for that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: YouTube TV account too, Jared. They may come for that next.
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: You may not be able to watch the games.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Jared, the answer is no, it's not going to be
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a story because the Titans will be irrelevant. like i
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: mean they would have lost to the jets and the
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: eagles they would be irrelevant it's.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: Bad enough that they've been irrelevant nationally for five years
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: well like it's starting to erode locally.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Too absolutely absolutely and uh look man i mean i'm
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Ariel Hawani got his UFC credentials revoked. You remember how
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: massive of a story that was nationally?
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: Sure.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Because UFC is not irrelevant. And this is a national
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: story today. You asked if they start 0-2. 0-2 is, what,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: a month from now? True.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: No, it is.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: And I do feel like again, the unfortunate part of
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: this is it does bring this back to Cam, which
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: you guys think Cam had nothing to do with this,
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: which is a totally fair thing to think. And I
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: don't think Cam did or didn't, I don't know, but
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: I don't, I feel bad if Cam gets thrown back
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: into this when Cam, I don't think has the authority
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: to do anything like this.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: Hashtag what Jets? I ask.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: That's the phrase of the year. I just want to
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: hear it. I don't want to hear about your offensive line.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about the defense, your receivers.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about we. And yes, Titans fans,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I understand that I is included in the we, and
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: he was including all of it. I want to hear
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: about your performance when asked specifically about your performance. What
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: did you do wrong? Don't carry the ball like a
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: loaf of bread.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Show this speed of all the weight that you lost
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: in the offseason when you take off and scramble.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: See the route develop when there's somebody wide open don't
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: elude non-existent pressure on the first play of the entire
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: preseason against the 49ers these are things I want to
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: see if you're not doing it then it's.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Okay for you to say hashtag IS.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: You know I will say this the one story that
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: has stuck with me this year you know you guys
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: know how I get I went on that right tackle
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: story for years and years and years But the story
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I have this year, it came from one of my
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: best friends who played a cup of coffee in the
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: big leagues with the Angels and the Marlins. And we
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: were on vacation a couple years ago, and he said,
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: you know what we used to always say in the
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: minor leagues? If you don't like it, play better. If
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: you're an A-ball and you hate the food that you're
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: being fed because it's all PB & J, well then
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: play better. And they'll send you to AA and you'll
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: eat better food. If you're in AAA and you see
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: a guy that you think you're better than get called
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: up to the big leagues and you're jealous about it,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: if you don't.
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: Like it, play better. And if you're in the big
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: leagues and you're making.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: $ 700, 000 and somebody else is making $ 8 million... and you
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: don't like it, play better. And this would be my
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: message to the Titans. If you don't like what I
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: say about your team, play better. It's not as if
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: I am criticizing a 17-0 football team. I am criticizing
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: a team that hasn't won back-to-back games since the Biden administration.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is what it is at this point.
• 42:25
  Speaker 5: Stop losing. If you don't like it, play better.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: If you don't like the criticism of the quarterback, have
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: him play better.
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: If the scheming is the problem, coach better.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: But I don't think it's big bad Jared Stillman's fault
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: that this team has won six games over the last
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: two years.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Check out Stillman & Company on the 440 Sports Network,
• 42:48
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• 42:53
  Speaker 3: Stillman, good to see you, brother. Great job.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Congratulations, guys, on the new show. I love how everything looks,
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: and keep it going.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, congrats on all the success of your show also. And, hey,
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: if the Titans rip out your YouTube TV account, you
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: can borrow mine, and you can still.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Watch the Titans games on TV. Yeah, we'll give you
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: your username and password. That's right, yeah. I'll share the
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: password with you.
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: Sounds good. Thank you, guys.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Thanks, buddy.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: We're out of here.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Next round live next right here at Sporting State.