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Morley Robbins on the Root Cause Protocol | Jerm Warfare · UK Column Radio

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Speaker 2: My name is.
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Speaker 1: This is germ warfare. The battle of ideas. Health is
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Speaker 1: such an important thing. I use the metaphor, you know, trenches,
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Speaker 1: information war, battle of ideas. It's all very military, but
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Speaker 1: I mean, there is really an information war going on,
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Speaker 1: isn't there?
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Speaker 2: Oh? Totally. And when you bring up the concept of
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Speaker 2: trench warfare, let's go right back to the First World War.
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Speaker 2: They were down ten feet into the grid. They couldn't
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Speaker 2: see each other, right, And when did the war change?
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Speaker 2: When General Pershing came over in nineteen eighteen and he
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Speaker 2: asked to have a battlefield map made of the entire theater.
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Speaker 2: No one had ever thought to create a map of
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Speaker 2: where's the enemy? And they had this very different perspective
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Speaker 2: done by the dirigibles and balloons and what have you.
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Speaker 2: And within eight months the war was over because they
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Speaker 2: had a completely different perspective of the problem.
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Speaker 1: I like that, a different perspective of the problem that is,
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Speaker 1: that's a big deal.
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Speaker 2: Is this a big deal? That's what it's all about.
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Speaker 2: And so if you go back in time, go back
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Speaker 2: to the eighteen fifties, you had Louis Pasture, who everyone's
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Speaker 2: heard of, and just so people know, his PhD was
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Speaker 2: from a correspondence in pharmacology, was a one year program,
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Speaker 2: and he was arguing with the most decorated scientists in Europe,
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Speaker 2: Antoine Bechamp. He had two PhDs, he had an MD degree,
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Speaker 2: he had all the citations and so basically Antoine Bechamp
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Speaker 2: was arguing with the village idiot. But the money, the
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Speaker 2: interest of Europe were backing past yure because he knew
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Speaker 2: there was more money to be made in focusing on
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Speaker 2: the particle, not focusing on the energetic field. That's the key.
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Speaker 2: If people don't understand that pathogens can't survive an energetic field,
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Speaker 2: that's the whole point.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what is your central thesis?
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Speaker 2: Great question. The central thesis is that there's a three
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Speaker 2: ring circus that runs life on planet Earth, and it's
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Speaker 2: a battle between copper, iron, and oxygen, and if those
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Speaker 2: are not in balance and in homeostasis with each other,
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Speaker 2: we get what's called oxidative stress. You and I know
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Speaker 2: that as a rusty nail, rusty pipe, rusty car, But
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Speaker 2: inside our body it's a breakdown of the metabolism. It's plaque,
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Speaker 2: it's all sorts of problems, and so the real issue
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Speaker 2: is if we're not making energy, we're making oxidative stress.
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Speaker 2: And the reason why the title is so important. First,
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Speaker 2: we're highlighting the symbol for copper because copper is the cure,
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Speaker 2: because copper not only enables us to make energy, enables
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Speaker 2: us to clear exhaust the oxidative stress. But copper has
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Speaker 2: a unique ability on the planet to regulate iron and
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Speaker 2: oxygen and not create a problem. Only element on the
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Speaker 2: planet that can manage both at the same time and
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Speaker 2: keep them in proper regulation. And the only place this
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Speaker 2: isn't taught is in doctor school, which I think is insane.
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Speaker 2: And so the phrase that we use within the RCP,
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Speaker 2: within the Root Cross Protocol is ignore the enemies, the pathogens,
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Speaker 2: the heavy metals, the toxins, ignite the energy. And so
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Speaker 2: the word fatigue is used in the title because it's
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Speaker 2: the number one reason why we go to the doctor.
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Speaker 2: I'm tired, I don't I just don't have the energy
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Speaker 2: I need. But it has a scientific meaning cellutar energy deficiency.
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Speaker 2: And as soon as you have cellular energy deficiency, symptoms
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Speaker 2: rise that takes you to the doctor. The doctor looks
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Speaker 2: at your symptoms and like a Ouiji board says, oh
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Speaker 2: you have XYZ syndrome. Then they tattoo that over your forehead.
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Speaker 2: You run back home, go onto Google and see x
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Speaker 2: y Z syndrome. That's exactly what I have. Those are
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Speaker 2: all my symptoms. And people don't realize that the whole
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Speaker 2: thing is theater. It's a narrative. There is no disease.
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Speaker 2: The symptoms are real. But the concept of diabetes or
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Speaker 2: heart disease or kidney disease, it's stress induced mineral dysregulation,
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Speaker 2: which causes metabolic dysfunction, which causes energy loss, which creates symptoms,
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Speaker 2: and that gets us to the doctor to find out
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Speaker 2: what disease we have. There is no disease.
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Speaker 1: Well, just for context, you have spent other thirty years
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Speaker 1: in the medical system.
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Speaker 2: I know the belly of the beast, Yes, and it's
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Speaker 2: very daunting and impressive. But have you ever seen the
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Speaker 2: movie The Wizard of Oz. Yes, Okay, the most important
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Speaker 2: scene in the movie is when Toto goes over and
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Speaker 2: pulls the green curtain back. I'm Toto and I'm pulling
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Speaker 2: back the green curtain on the medical system. And they
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Speaker 2: don't know how energy is made, they don't know how
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Speaker 2: bone is made, they don't know how blood is made,
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Speaker 2: and they don't know how babies are made. How do
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Speaker 2: I know that? Because all four of those events seminal
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Speaker 2: events in human lifespan require copper and gets guess what
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Speaker 2: the one word that's never used in medical school is.
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Speaker 2: They never use the word copper. It's like Voldemort in
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Speaker 2: Hogwarts Academy.
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Speaker 1: So you are tapping your heels together and saying, there's
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Speaker 1: no place like home.
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Speaker 2: That's right, exactly, Well, the thing is no to build
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Speaker 2: on that. What the whole purpose of the root Cost
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Speaker 2: Protocol is to the first half of the book is
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Speaker 2: to explain what the problem is. But the back half
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Speaker 2: of the book is explained, here's how we solve it.
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Speaker 2: And it's to give people very tangible steps that they
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Speaker 2: can take. And it is like clicking your heels, but
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Speaker 2: it's giving the person the control, the sovereignty over their health.
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Speaker 2: We we're not designed to have an ologist for every
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Speaker 2: part of our body. Your your great grandparents did not
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Speaker 2: go to the doctor the same way they do today.
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Speaker 2: Just it's it's unheard of, it's unprecedented.
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Speaker 1: So your your framework essentially starts at the citular level,
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Speaker 1: right and more and more specifically with the mitochondria.
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Speaker 2: The right, we're back to pasture and Beseamp. Bechamp was
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Speaker 2: arguing for the energetic field. He knew that he wasn't
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Speaker 2: ignoring the pathogens and he knew they were prevalent because
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Speaker 2: the energetic field was not right. Particle versus field. That
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Speaker 2: was the whole debate. And so what's important to understand
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Speaker 2: is it in order to make energy in our body.
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Speaker 2: To give you a context, we need to make a
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Speaker 2: billion ATP for one heart beat. Every heart beat needs
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Speaker 2: a billion ATP. You manufacture your bodies weight in ATP
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Speaker 2: every day. That's a lot of ATP. You have on
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Speaker 2: average forty quadrillion mitochondria in your body. That's fifteen zeros.
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Speaker 2: That's a lot of little factories making energy. But it's
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Speaker 2: important to know how they're distributed through the body. The
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Speaker 2: liver cells of patasites have two thousand mitochondria, the kidney
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Speaker 2: cells nephrons have four thousand mitochondria, the cardio mitocytes, the
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Speaker 2: heart muscle cells ten thousand mitochonda. A mature egg in
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Speaker 2: a woman's body six hundred thousand mitochondria. And there are
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Speaker 2: brain reagions, particularly the substantial niagra that you may have
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Speaker 2: heard of as it relates to Parkinson's disease two million
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Speaker 2: mitochondria and per neuron two million mitochondria per neuron. And
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Speaker 2: this order of magnitude is not taught in doctor training.
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Speaker 2: They don't understand that if the energy production begins to falter,
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Speaker 2: symptoms will follow. But they've been taught that things like
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Speaker 2: nerd generation or pronic kidney disease or diabetes, those are
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Speaker 2: the result of some disease process. It's from a breakdown
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Speaker 2: in the copper iron oxygen dynamic. And I've read twelve
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Speaker 2: thousand articles. It's not me making stuff up. It's I've
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Speaker 2: stepped back to reflect on it. And really I'm standing
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Speaker 2: on the shoulders of giants before me who've really made
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Speaker 2: these insights. But it's never been articulated. And so I'm
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Speaker 2: just carrying the torch trying to wake people up that.
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Speaker 2: You know, again, a lot of people are still sound
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Speaker 2: asleep post COVID. They don't They're waiting for the next
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Speaker 2: shoe to drop. And when i'm my moral message is
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Speaker 2: take charge. You got to take control of your body.
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Speaker 2: And it's a very straightforward process of remineralizing the body,
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Speaker 2: bringing back the nutrients, and just giving the body the
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Speaker 2: grace and gratitude to do what it's designed to do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So, just so that I am following you, you're
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Speaker 1: saying that, at the most fundamental level, our health is
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Speaker 1: an energy problem, and energy is made inside the mitochondria.
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Speaker 1: Is that right?
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Speaker 2: Right? Yes, the vast majority, over ninety percent of the
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Speaker 2: energy is in the mitochondria.
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Speaker 1: So what exactly do you mean when you say an
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Speaker 1: energy problem.
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Speaker 2: When So the process of making energy when you go
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Speaker 2: into the mitochondria, there's something called an electron transport chain.
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Speaker 2: It's called etc. And the electrons sometimes make sure you're interested.
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Speaker 2: At the most basic level, the way energy is made
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Speaker 2: is we need to turn the oxygen that we breathe
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Speaker 2: into water, and that's happening inside the mitochondria. And what's
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Speaker 2: important to understand is that oxygen is about twenty one
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Speaker 2: percent of the air we breathe. The rest is nitrogen.
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Speaker 2: Oxygen is not our friend. We can't live without it,
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Speaker 2: but we can't age without it either, And so we
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Speaker 2: have within our blood proteins called hemoglobin that are carrying oxygen,
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Speaker 2: and thank god they do, they're really good at it.
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Speaker 2: But eighty percent of the iron we have in our
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Speaker 2: body is a weight carrying oxygen one way, carbon oxide
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Speaker 2: the other. But what happens is when the blood gets
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Speaker 2: to the mitochondria, the oxygen is offloaded and goes into
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Speaker 2: this electron transport chain. And the most important chemical reaction
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Speaker 2: on planet Earth is in complex four. There's five complexes
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Speaker 2: in the mitochondriac. A complex four is called cytochrome s
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Speaker 2: the oxidase. You've probably never heard of it. It's a
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Speaker 2: copper dependent ends on And I'm going to bet that
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Speaker 2: you live in a home that has a kitchen, right,
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Speaker 2: and the kitchen has a stove right, Get the stove
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Speaker 2: is made out of iron at it primal level. Does
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Speaker 2: the stove know what's for dinner tonight? No? No, Does
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Speaker 2: the stove know what temperature to turn the oven on?
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Speaker 2: Does the stove know what's burner to use? No? Every
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Speaker 2: kitchen requires this stuff. Got to have someone who's going
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Speaker 2: to run the stove. Well, when you get inside the mitochondriac,
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Speaker 2: there's two proteins called hem a and hem a three.
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Speaker 2: You can't make those hemes without copper. It's a copper
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Speaker 2: dependent process. And what does he may and he may three? Do?
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Speaker 2: It holds oxygen so that copper can run the enzyme
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Speaker 2: to activate oxygen, and what that means is it splits
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Speaker 2: it from O two into just oxygen atoms, and then
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Speaker 2: it brings in four electrons and four protons and turns
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Speaker 2: it into two molecules of water. And when that happens,
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Speaker 2: and it can only happen at the pge of seven,
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Speaker 2: there are energy precursor molecules called ADP. Three of those
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Speaker 2: are sent over to complex five, and complex five is
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Speaker 2: a roter that's spinning thirty thousand revolutions per minute. That's
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Speaker 2: five hundred revolutions per second. I'd be impressed if you
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Speaker 2: could do one revolution per second. And so this rotor,
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Speaker 2: every time I goes one cycle, it's turning three ADP
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Speaker 2: into three ATP. That process requires copper. So we need
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Speaker 2: copper to turn oxygen into water, and we need copper
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Speaker 2: to turn ADP into ATP, and every function in the body,
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Speaker 2: especially the immune system, requires ATP. The immune system is
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Speaker 2: totally dependent on being energized so that it can be
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Speaker 2: aware of its surroundings so it can discern what's happening.
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Speaker 2: And we've not been taught the energy side of the equation,
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Speaker 2: and so I've just I'm challenging the worldview that health
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Speaker 2: is when you don't have fatigue, and that's really what
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Speaker 2: the research bears out. And the most important research that
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Speaker 2: I came across is by a world renowned geneticist named
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Speaker 2: Douglas Wallace. You've never heard of him. He's here in
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Speaker 2: the States Jona's Hospital of Pennsylvania and his signature article
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Speaker 2: is in two thousand and five, and he was admonishing
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Speaker 2: his clinical colleagues. He said, you don't understand how energy
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Speaker 2: is made in the body. And that's the very origin
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Speaker 2: of the problem is that doctors are trained to believe
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Speaker 2: in diabetes, doctors are trained to believe in kidney disease,
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Speaker 2: and they never stop to say, is this tissue making
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Speaker 2: enough energy in order to support the natural function of
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Speaker 2: that cell and that tissue. And that's where the breakdown
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Speaker 2: really occurs.
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Speaker 1: So just looks out to you. Also, because I know that,
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Speaker 1: I mean, not everybody knows what a DP and at
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Speaker 1: P mean. Adenos sign.
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Speaker 2: Diphosphate. It's two phosphate, it turns into triphosphate, and there's
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Speaker 2: a magnesium atom between the second and third phosphate, which
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Speaker 2: is really it's a really big deal. And so what
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Speaker 2: all I've done is dug into the literature to find
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Speaker 2: out where's the real breakdown. Where does it really where
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Speaker 2: does where does the train come off the track? And
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Speaker 2: so here's an example, what's your nationality of origin?
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Speaker 1: Me, I mean I'm South African.
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Speaker 2: South African, okay, And your hair looks very dark, almost blacky.
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Speaker 1: Well, i mean I'm a I'm a white South African
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Speaker 1: if you want to be more specific.
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Speaker 2: But but your hair is very dark. And what the
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Speaker 2: what the Japanese learned in the nineteen sixties is it
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Speaker 2: people who have black hair require six times more copper
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Speaker 2: in their diet than people who don't have black hair,
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Speaker 2: because it takes a lot of copper to maintain the
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Speaker 2: melanine function for skin tone, eye color, and hair color.
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Speaker 2: It's really really important. And yeah, no, it's it's again,
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Speaker 2: there's this. You have to understand. There's a whole parallel
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Speaker 2: universe around mineral metabolism that you've never heard about. And
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Speaker 2: I tease doctors that their degree, their m d degree,
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Speaker 2: they think it stands for medical doctor, it stands for
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Speaker 2: mineral denihilists. Because they don't they don't acknowledge the role
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Speaker 2: that minerals play to their catalysts they make, they're making
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Speaker 2: things happen inside the body. And to me, the three
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Speaker 2: most important minerals are copper, iron, and magnesium, and if
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Speaker 2: they're not if they're not working right, you're going to
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Speaker 2: lose a lot of magnesium.
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Speaker 1: So we can very quickly get caught up in a
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Speaker 1: highly academic discussion. But let's bring it back just to reality,
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Speaker 1: for the for the lay for the layman. Right, So
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Speaker 1: what does this mean.
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Speaker 2: It means that our food system is not delivering what
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Speaker 2: our ancestors were getting. It means that scientists have been
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Speaker 2: studying these dynamics for over a century. It's a long time.
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Speaker 2: It means that we've been taught to believe in disease,
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Speaker 2: but we have not been taught how does the body
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Speaker 2: really work? How does the body respond to stress? And
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Speaker 2: so the approach that we take within the RCP is,
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Speaker 2: if you have stress in your world, you're going to
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Speaker 2: have oxidative stress in your body. You're not going to
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Speaker 2: be making as much energy, and there's an emotional dynamic
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Speaker 2: to that. And it's really important for people to realize
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Speaker 2: that there's a whole nother domain of activity that they've
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Speaker 2: never been exposed to that really explains why they don't
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Speaker 2: feel well. Let me give you an example to make
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Speaker 2: it very practical. You've heard of diabetes. You know it's
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Speaker 2: a disease right. Well, back in nineteen ninety six, three
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Speaker 2: years ago, some scientists wanted to study what happens to
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Speaker 2: five specific genes if we withhold copper from the animal's diet.
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Speaker 2: And one of the genes that upregulated and increased its
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Speaker 2: activity was a protein that stores iron, which makes perfect sense.
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Speaker 2: If copper is limiting, you want to make sure you're
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Speaker 2: storing the iron so it can't be reactive. But the
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Speaker 2: other gene that was most noteworthy was a gene i'd
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Speaker 2: never heard of. It's called fetoin fet u i N,
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Speaker 2: and that gene makes a protein called fetoin A and
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Speaker 2: it's very much involved in the calcification of bone in
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Speaker 2: a good way. But what they also realized is that
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Speaker 2: in a state of copper deficiency, it was a seventy
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Speaker 2: percent increase in activity of the gene. That's a lot.
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Speaker 2: And what this led to is that their receptors for
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Speaker 2: allowing insulin into the cell to make sure that the
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Speaker 2: cell can deal with thought can deal with glucose, those
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Speaker 2: receptors are called tyrosine kinase receptors, and they need to
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Speaker 2: be activated just the way the body works. And what
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Speaker 2: they discovered is that feedin a when it's increased, was
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Speaker 2: inhibiting the activation of these receptors was causing glucose intolerance
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Speaker 2: and insulin resistance. And what people have never been told
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Speaker 2: is that, oh, actually it's copper deficiency that causes diabetes.
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Speaker 2: That's all signific again to this. That's how important that
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Speaker 2: research was from thirty years ago. It was a mind
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Speaker 2: bending study that should have changed medicine. But what do
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Speaker 2: they do with the results. They swept it under the
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Speaker 2: table because it blew up the medical model. The medical
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Speaker 2: model is disease exists. We have medications that are going
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Speaker 2: to treat it. We don't have diseases that are going
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Speaker 2: to cure it. We just treat disease. Ever since nineteen
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Speaker 2: ninety two, we don't cure anything. We just treat it.
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Speaker 2: In a colleague, when I was proposing this title, said
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Speaker 2: he's a lawyer. He said, you sure you want to
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Speaker 2: use the word cure. I said absolutely. And so the
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Speaker 2: public doesn't have and I'm not suggesting that everyone become
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Speaker 2: biochemist that's not the point. Our body is incredibly designed.
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Speaker 2: It's a very simple architecture, and the blueprint that runs
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Speaker 2: our metabolism and our immune system requires energy, period. And
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Speaker 2: if we don't have energy, Again, back to what's the
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Speaker 2: number one reason why people go see their doctor. Fatigue.
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Speaker 2: It's well documented, and so they'll go in and they'll
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Speaker 2: be given ten different reasons why they have fatigue, except
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Speaker 2: the most important one. Your minerals aren't right, And again
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Speaker 2: doctors have not been taught that foundational role that minerals
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Speaker 2: play to communicate to catalyze activity inside the body. And
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Speaker 2: so we're the green curtain is fully drawn and people
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Speaker 2: don't know that there's a snake oil salesman moving the dials.
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Speaker 2: And all we're trying to do within the root Cosse
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Speaker 2: protocol is reveal the true inner workings of the body.
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Speaker 1: So, to reference beaseon' black you did earlier, you're arguing
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Speaker 1: that the terrain is very very important.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, yeah, And again we've been trained to believe
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Speaker 2: that it's the pathogen, the particle that we need to focus.
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Speaker 2: The germs right, the germ warfare right, And that's right.
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Speaker 2: And so again back to the First World War, we've
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Speaker 2: changed the plane of understanding and the perspective. We've asked
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Speaker 2: the question why are the germs there? To begin with,
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Speaker 2: what are they feeding on? All pathogens feed on iron?
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Speaker 2: Why is the iron stored in the tissue? Because there's
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Speaker 2: not enough by available copper to recycle it properly in
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Speaker 2: our tissue. There's a very predictable reason why iron starts
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Speaker 2: to accumulate, starts to build up pathogens, starts to create
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Speaker 2: all sorts of toxic activity. And we're taught to detox,
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Speaker 2: but we're not taught how to make energy.
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Speaker 1: Now, you are referring to chronic disease, not for example,
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Speaker 1: flu that I had two weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: Right, Well, again, the flu is just a way for
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Speaker 2: the body to clear the excess debris that's there, and
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Speaker 2: so it's just it's a natural byproduct of air immune system. Again,
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Speaker 2: it's all conditions. And again I'm not a lot. I
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Speaker 2: know that there are genetic conditions like Wilson's disease it's
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Speaker 2: a very specific condition, or that there are aspects of
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Speaker 2: different conditions that involve genetic mutations. But again, when you
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Speaker 2: begin to pull back the curtain, you find out, well,
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Speaker 2: all of these problems are caused by iron dysregulation at
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Speaker 2: a nuclear level.
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Speaker 1: You mentioned lobeties, but I mean what about top one dobytis,
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Speaker 1: which seems to be genetic.
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Speaker 2: It appears to be genic, right, it's actually a pathogen.
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Speaker 2: It's a parasite that has taken root in the pancreas.
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Speaker 2: That's been pretty well documented now. But again, there's no
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Speaker 2: money to give rid of the parasite, is there. There's
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Speaker 2: no money in healthy humans, is there? Well, the whole
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Speaker 2: paradigm of medicine is based on treating conditions, not curing conditions.
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Speaker 2: Treating conditions and taking advantage of the public's lack of
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Speaker 2: understanding about how energy is made, how energy is lost,
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Speaker 2: the role that stress plays in our lives, And what's
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Speaker 2: very very important is for people to realize that if
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Speaker 2: you have chronic stress, you're going to have chronic fatigue.
26:42
Speaker 2: That one begets the other. And it's just getting people
26:44
Speaker 2: to understand that the stress changes the way iron is
26:48
Speaker 2: metabolized in the body.
26:50
Speaker 1: So is that why you say that being anemic, for example,
26:54
Speaker 1: is not about having a deficiency in iron, but more
26:57
Speaker 1: of an unregulated a state of iron.
27:01
Speaker 2: Right, So what the World Health Organization would tell us
27:06
Speaker 2: and I think they've lost a little standing since twenty twenty.
27:09
Speaker 2: But what they would tell us is that a third
27:12
Speaker 2: of the earth things on planet Earth are anemic. Let's
27:17
Speaker 2: step back from that. What's the number one element on
27:20
Speaker 2: the planet Earth? Iron? Thirty six percent of the earth
27:24
Speaker 2: composition is iron. Prior to twenty twenty, I would have
27:28
Speaker 2: argued that humans were the most evolve species. Now I'm
27:31
Speaker 2: not so sure, but the argument would go, so the
27:35
Speaker 2: most evaal species on the planet can't metabolize the number
27:38
Speaker 2: one element. That doesn't make sense. And so it turns
27:43
Speaker 2: out that there's many different forms of anemia. But there's
27:46
Speaker 2: two dominant forms. There's absolute iron deficiency and there's my
27:59
Speaker 2: mind just down absolute and functional iron deficiency, and so
28:09
Speaker 2: people don't know that there's a distinction between the two.
28:13
Speaker 2: We are led to believe that everyone who shows low
28:16
Speaker 2: iron on a blood test is struggling with low iron
28:21
Speaker 2: in their tissue, and that's not the case. We've the
28:28
Speaker 2: Western world, particularly those of US in UK, Canada and
28:35
Speaker 2: the US, have been dealing with iron fortified food since
28:39
Speaker 2: nineteen forty one. It's a big deal. Here in the States.
28:45
Speaker 2: They increased it. They wanted to increase it three hundred percent,
28:49
Speaker 2: but it was brought back down to a fifty percent
28:52
Speaker 2: increase in nineteen sixty nine. So we're going to expose
28:56
Speaker 2: a lot of iron, and yet we're supposed to believe
29:00
Speaker 2: that the third of the population on the planet is anemic.
29:05
Speaker 2: And here's the part that most people don't know about.
29:12
Speaker 2: There's two forms of iron. There's dietary iron and there's
29:17
Speaker 2: recycling iron. We've been chatting now for thirty minutes, and
29:24
Speaker 2: every second of every day, we need to replace two
29:28
Speaker 2: and a half million red blood cells every second, and
29:36
Speaker 2: in the course of twenty four hours, it's two hundred
29:39
Speaker 2: billion red blood cells. Got to break them down, got
29:44
Speaker 2: to get the iron, and we got to get that
29:45
Speaker 2: iron back to the bone marrow to make two and
29:49
Speaker 2: a half million every second. No one's talking about the
29:52
Speaker 2: recycling program. And what's well chronicled in the research is
30:00
Speaker 2: that one milligram of iron comes through our diet through
30:07
Speaker 2: our mouth. Twenty four of the twenty five milligrams we
30:12
Speaker 2: need to make two hundred billion red blood cells comes
30:15
Speaker 2: from our recycling system that no one talks about. It's
30:19
Speaker 2: called the reticular endothelial system. You talk about germ warfare.
30:24
Speaker 2: It's a very sophisticated system that requires by available copper.
30:31
Speaker 2: You can't run that system without copper. No one knows that.
30:37
Speaker 2: Who was it who identified the fact that we only
30:39
Speaker 2: need one milligram of iron today? There was two famous
30:43
Speaker 2: scientists in the UK, Mecants and Whitison. Back in the
30:48
Speaker 2: thirties they set the standard. Mcants was a physician, Whittison
30:53
Speaker 2: was a biochemist, and thirties, forties, fifties and sixties they
30:58
Speaker 2: set the nutritional standards. Their textbook is in its eighteenth printing.
31:04
Speaker 2: It's still used today in schools of nutrition. But nobody
31:08
Speaker 2: knows about mccannson wit Usen. Nobody knows they only need
31:10
Speaker 2: one milligram of iron. Everyone thinks they need to be
31:13
Speaker 2: getting twenty twenty five, maybe fifty milligrams of iron through
31:17
Speaker 2: their diet, and it totally messes up the mechanics and
31:23
Speaker 2: the physiology of the body. And so it's very important
31:26
Speaker 2: for people to realize that the body has a very
31:30
Speaker 2: sophisticated program of dealing with the iron that's not well
31:34
Speaker 2: understood in conventional circles.
31:37
Speaker 1: And most iron that's added to processed foods is carcinogenic.
31:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's non hem iron, and there's nine different forms
31:49
Speaker 2: of non hem iron being added to the food. And
31:52
Speaker 2: it was an iron toxicologist from Canada, Jim Moon. He's
31:58
Speaker 2: no longer with us, but he published a book in
32:01
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight and he profiles in exquisite detail
32:06
Speaker 2: just how much exposure we have to iron and what
32:09
Speaker 2: it's doing metabolically inside our body.
32:12
Speaker 1: Now, you've made a very interesting comment about blood donation
32:16
Speaker 1: and how it can it's a top of regulated bleeding
32:20
Speaker 1: that can that can help that overload.
32:22
Speaker 2: Right. Do you know when bleeding fell out of favor
32:29
Speaker 2: when the Royal College of Physicians was founded in the
32:32
Speaker 2: sixteen hundreds, because they knew it was helping people and
32:37
Speaker 2: so so here in the States, the Red Cross has
32:41
Speaker 2: done a number of longitudinal studies and people who donate
32:48
Speaker 2: blood regularly outlive people who don't donate. And it turns
32:53
Speaker 2: out that the ninety five percent of people do not
32:56
Speaker 2: donate blood, only five percent are willing to give up
32:59
Speaker 2: their blood. But they're the ones that are going to
33:02
Speaker 2: outlive everybody else. And it's a real tonic. It gets
33:07
Speaker 2: rid of excess iron. I can assure you, even at
33:11
Speaker 2: your youthful age, you have too much iron in your body,
33:14
Speaker 2: and there's a way to calculate it. And this is
33:18
Speaker 2: not my formula. This is the formula that's used by
33:20
Speaker 2: iron biologists all over the world. Take your age and
33:25
Speaker 2: multiply it times three sixty five, and you find out
33:29
Speaker 2: how many milligrams of iron you have. So I'm seventy
33:32
Speaker 2: three times three sixty five. That's twenty six thousand milligrams
33:37
Speaker 2: of iron. Men are designed to have five thousand, women
33:41
Speaker 2: are designed to have four thousand. And everyone who's listening
33:44
Speaker 2: to your program has a multiple of three or four
33:47
Speaker 2: times more iron than they should have, and they don't
33:51
Speaker 2: know that there's a price to be paid for that
33:53
Speaker 2: excess iron getting stuck in the tissue doesn't show up
33:57
Speaker 2: in the blood work. Iron on the blood test is
34:01
Speaker 2: not low iron in the body. It means that the
34:04
Speaker 2: recycling system is not working efficiently. And that's the most
34:09
Speaker 2: important thing for people to understand, is that the properties
34:14
Speaker 2: of iron are very unique, and they don't that the
34:17
Speaker 2: blood test is not perfectly representative of the body. Again,
34:22
Speaker 2: it's one of the most important things for people to understand.
34:26
Speaker 1: And yet simultaneously you argue that just about everybody is
34:31
Speaker 1: deficient in magnesium.
34:35
Speaker 2: Well, there's decades of research to back that up, but
34:39
Speaker 2: it's important to know why. And probably the greatest magnesium
34:46
Speaker 2: researcher was a woman named Mildred sea Ley. She was
34:49
Speaker 2: a physician here in the States. She got her degree
34:52
Speaker 2: in the sixties and she started her career in Big Pharma.
34:57
Speaker 2: She was researching drugs and when she realized I said,
35:00
Speaker 2: every drug she was working on was causing magnesium deficiency,
35:04
Speaker 2: she flipped left Big Pharma and spent the next fifty
35:08
Speaker 2: years of her life educating people about the importance of magnesium.
35:13
Speaker 2: But here's the part that's really important for people to understand.
35:17
Speaker 2: You can take a bucket full of magnesium and you
35:21
Speaker 2: will correct symptoms, and that's great. You know, the cramp
35:26
Speaker 2: and the foot, the twitch and the eye, the bowel
35:29
Speaker 2: movements will be smoother and things like that. But what
35:32
Speaker 2: people need to understand is there's a reason why magnesium
35:35
Speaker 2: is being lost, and it's caused by stress. I coined
35:40
Speaker 2: the phrase the magnesem burn rate. If you have more stress,
35:43
Speaker 2: your magnesem burn rate is going to go up. But
35:46
Speaker 2: here's how it really works. If you don't have enough
35:50
Speaker 2: copper in your diet, iron is going to rise in
35:54
Speaker 2: your body. That iron is going to interact with the
35:58
Speaker 2: oxygen and create what's called oxidata stress back to the
36:01
Speaker 2: very beginning of our conversation, and the oxidata stress is
36:06
Speaker 2: going to cause the magnesium loss. And so what we're
36:11
Speaker 2: focused on is we know how important magnesium is. We
36:14
Speaker 2: don't just want to treat the symptom. We want to
36:16
Speaker 2: get back to let's correct the copper iron dynamic, bring
36:21
Speaker 2: energy back into balance and allow the body to stop
36:25
Speaker 2: losing so much magnesium. It's a very different approach to
36:29
Speaker 2: solving the problem.
36:31
Speaker 1: But if so many people are deficient and magnesium, what
36:36
Speaker 1: causes that depletion?
36:39
Speaker 2: Well about part of it is it's not in the
36:42
Speaker 2: food the way it used to be. If people think
36:45
Speaker 2: the food they're eating today is like their great great grandparents,
36:49
Speaker 2: they don't understand what's going on on the planet. And
36:52
Speaker 2: there's a lot of information out there about the impact
36:57
Speaker 2: of farming chemicals on the availability of minerals. So it's
37:01
Speaker 2: not in the food system. And do you know anybody
37:05
Speaker 2: who's under stress? Did you know los loads like everybody?
37:10
Speaker 2: Right again, if you have stress in your world, you
37:15
Speaker 2: have oxidative stress in your body and you're going to
37:18
Speaker 2: lose magnesium. It is. It's an axiomatic expression of how
37:23
Speaker 2: the body's responds to stress, and so it's a chronic condition.
37:28
Speaker 2: And what we're trying to do is get people to
37:29
Speaker 2: realize that there is a stress component, but there's also
37:34
Speaker 2: a biological component. We've got to make more energy. That's
37:39
Speaker 2: going to require more by available copper, going to require
37:42
Speaker 2: more conversion of oxygen into water so we can respond
37:46
Speaker 2: to that stress. And one of the one of the
37:49
Speaker 2: best definitions of stress I've ever come across is by
37:53
Speaker 2: a US functional doctor named Mark Hyman. He's at the
37:57
Speaker 2: Cleveland Clinic. Wonderful definition stress is the body's inability to
38:06
Speaker 2: make energy for the mind to respond to its environment.
38:12
Speaker 2: And so the whole goal within our protocol is help
38:16
Speaker 2: people make more energy so they can respond to their
38:19
Speaker 2: stress and not lose the minerals. That's the whole goal of.
38:23
Speaker 1: The program and avoid vitamin D three.
38:31
Speaker 2: How much time do we have, So the part that
38:39
Speaker 2: people don't know is that there's a price to pay
38:42
Speaker 2: for vitamin D only supplements. We have an entire master class.
38:47
Speaker 2: It's a ninety minute master class to introduce people to
38:50
Speaker 2: the research that they've never heard because all people have
38:53
Speaker 2: been told is that vitamin D is faster than a
38:56
Speaker 2: speeding bought, more powerful, and a locomotive. It's like, there's
39:00
Speaker 2: so much more to the story. But probably the most
39:03
Speaker 2: important part about vitamin D is recognizing it has a
39:07
Speaker 2: relationship with vitamin A. All these nutrients have relationships magnesium and calcium,
39:14
Speaker 2: sodium and potassium, copper and iron. It's not copper and zinc.
39:18
Speaker 2: It's copper and iron and vitamin A and vitamin D.
39:22
Speaker 2: They have a very powerful relationship. And what vitamin D
39:26
Speaker 2: does is it blocks the uptake of retinol animal based
39:33
Speaker 2: vitamin A from getting into the digestive truck. Well, why
39:37
Speaker 2: is that a problem, Because you can't make copper bioavailable
39:41
Speaker 2: unless you have retinol in your diet. What are the
39:45
Speaker 2: richest sources retinal beef, liver, cod liver, oil, yard eggs, a,
39:50
Speaker 2: grass fed butter, grass fed cream, heavy cream. These were
39:55
Speaker 2: foods that our ancestors had in plentyful amounts in their diet,
40:01
Speaker 2: and they'd been expunged from the nutritional record over the
40:05
Speaker 2: last century, I would argue for a reason. And so
40:10
Speaker 2: this idea that the composition of your food today is
40:17
Speaker 2: the same as your great grandparents. You have to really
40:20
Speaker 2: let go of that because there's compelling research and one
40:24
Speaker 2: of the most important chemicals that you are probably familiar with,
40:29
Speaker 2: And it was actually study done in South Africa in
40:32
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two by a world renowned scientist named Don Hubert,
40:37
Speaker 2: and he was looking at the impact of glyphosate round
40:41
Speaker 2: up in farming in South Africa and it was devastating.
40:46
Speaker 2: And what people need to understand is that glyphosate was
40:50
Speaker 2: originally design as a mineral key lader back in the fifties.
40:56
Speaker 2: That was its patent, and it was clearing out minerals
41:00
Speaker 2: in industrial pipes. Then they turned to it as an antibiotic,
41:06
Speaker 2: and then they discovered it had these herbicidal properties, and
41:10
Speaker 2: so back in the seventies is when they started to
41:12
Speaker 2: introduce round up into farming. And what doctor Huber has
41:19
Speaker 2: done is he's taken this knowledge about the speed with
41:23
Speaker 2: which glyphos takes minerals out of the soil and turned
41:27
Speaker 2: it into a logarithmic formula. So you probably are familiar
41:33
Speaker 2: enough with earthquakes that an earthquake of three dishes rattle.
41:38
Speaker 2: But everyone's fine earthquake of twelve. No one survives because
41:43
Speaker 2: it's orders of ten, going from three to four to
41:46
Speaker 2: five to six. So what doctor Hubert did was study
41:49
Speaker 2: the speed with which minerals are coming out of the
41:52
Speaker 2: soil in South Africa. And calcium and magnesium is coming
41:58
Speaker 2: out at a three. That's not too bad, iron and
42:03
Speaker 2: zinc at a nine, copper at a twelve. So what
42:08
Speaker 2: does that mean. It means that copper is coming out
42:12
Speaker 2: a thousand times faster than zinc, and iron a billion
42:19
Speaker 2: times faster than calcium and magnesium. The difficulty we have, Jeremy,
42:24
Speaker 2: is we don't know what it's like to go a
42:26
Speaker 2: thousand times faster, a billion times faster, And in situations
42:30
Speaker 2: like that will say, I don't understand that. It can't
42:34
Speaker 2: be very important. Actually it's so important. People need to
42:38
Speaker 2: stop and take stock of the fact that the food
42:42
Speaker 2: that they're eating is being exposed to chemicals that are
42:45
Speaker 2: pulling minerals not just out of the soil, but out
42:47
Speaker 2: of their body. And that's being documented now.
42:52
Speaker 1: So instead of taking the vitimin d pull, spend some
42:55
Speaker 1: time in the sunshine.
42:58
Speaker 2: Spend some time in the sunshine and get what our
43:02
Speaker 2: ancestors used to get as sources of their fat soluble vins.
43:06
Speaker 2: Cod of oil one of the richest sources of vitamin
43:10
Speaker 2: A and D, but it's in the proper ratio. There's
43:14
Speaker 2: ten times more vitamin A in cod liver oil than
43:17
Speaker 2: there is D. And the role that vitamin A plays
43:22
Speaker 2: in our body is legendary, but no one knows that
43:26
Speaker 2: because everyone has been raised on a fat free diet.
43:30
Speaker 2: Went back to the fifties with eyes in our heads,
43:32
Speaker 2: first heart attack, and they expunged cholesterol and fat from
43:36
Speaker 2: the diet, and it's absolutely has it altered human physiology
43:41
Speaker 2: when they did that.
43:42
Speaker 1: Are you a proponent of ketogenic dots?
43:46
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, But there's a catch. You've probably have heard
43:49
Speaker 2: of people getting ketogenic flu right brain fall They don't
43:54
Speaker 2: have brainfall y because they don't have enough copper in
43:57
Speaker 2: their diet. And you can't break down the fat if
44:00
Speaker 2: you don't have the copper to activate the beta oxidation
44:05
Speaker 2: enzymes to break down the fat. That's really been copa historically. Right, Historically,
44:18
Speaker 2: we would have gotten it from Oregon meats, we would
44:21
Speaker 2: have gotten it from shellfish, we would have gotten it
44:25
Speaker 2: from nuts and seeds. We would have gotten it from
44:28
Speaker 2: leafy greens, collared greens, mustard greens beat greens. But in
44:33
Speaker 2: the modern era, we're challenged because the food system has changed.
44:40
Speaker 2: Copper is not prevalent. Let me put it in perspective.
44:46
Speaker 2: In the nineteen thirties, our ancestors were getting four to
44:51
Speaker 2: six milligrams of copper in their daily diet. Thirty years later,
44:56
Speaker 2: nineteen sixties, they were getting two to five milligram slight drop.
45:02
Speaker 2: Today the recommended daily allowance for copper is zero point
45:07
Speaker 2: nine of one milligram. You can't run the body with
45:12
Speaker 2: that small amount of copper. And now we're facing not
45:16
Speaker 2: just this diminished expectation of what we're supposed to take,
45:22
Speaker 2: is that the environment does not deliver the copper like
45:25
Speaker 2: it used to hundreds of years ago. And so during
45:31
Speaker 2: COVID during twenty twenty, it was actually March of twenty
45:36
Speaker 2: twenty when it began to reflect on what was then
45:39
Speaker 2: called the COVID cocktail, and what was the COVID cocktail
45:44
Speaker 2: high dose of scorbic acid, high dose vitamin D, and
45:48
Speaker 2: high dose think and people were told wink wink. They
45:52
Speaker 2: were told that this was going to prevent the virus
45:55
Speaker 2: from infecting them. I knew as a mineral biologist that
46:02
Speaker 2: was going to kill copper inside the body, and so
46:05
Speaker 2: in April of twenty twenty, I renamed what COVID stands for.
46:09
Speaker 2: Theov stands for coppers vanished, and ID stands for irons
46:15
Speaker 2: just regulated. As soon as copper's down, iron is going
46:18
Speaker 2: to take off from the body. And what do you
46:21
Speaker 2: think COVID was? It was a side of kind storm.
46:24
Speaker 2: That's really what killed people. Was the side of kind
46:26
Speaker 2: storm that can't happen in a body that has by
46:29
Speaker 2: available copper. That's a fact. And there was only one
46:32
Speaker 2: paper that I found from France that acknowledged that fact.
46:36
Speaker 2: Everybody else was talking about the COVID cocktail and well,
46:39
Speaker 2: we need zinc to kill the replication of the virus.
46:43
Speaker 2: The part that people don't know is that every pathogen
46:46
Speaker 2: on planet Earth caves in the presence of copper. It's
46:50
Speaker 2: not a metabolic process, it's just energetically it can't survive copper.
46:55
Speaker 2: And so that was completely kept off the records, and
47:00
Speaker 2: people were chasing their tail, running from this mystical condition.
47:05
Speaker 2: And the problem is we haven't really progressed very far
47:09
Speaker 2: in the last five or six years. But what I
47:12
Speaker 2: decided to do in twenty twenty one was inspire the
47:15
Speaker 2: creation of a copper product called Recuperate, and it dovetails
47:21
Speaker 2: beautifully with the protocol because we have what are called
47:25
Speaker 2: stops and starts, and one of the key starts is
47:29
Speaker 2: begin to incorporate copper into your diet. And so what
47:33
Speaker 2: this product does is it has desiccated beef liver, spirrillina,
47:38
Speaker 2: turmeric boron, and two milligrams of copper pisc iscinate and
47:44
Speaker 2: it it's the power pack that our body is looking for.
47:48
Speaker 2: So it's just the idea of getting copper the way
47:52
Speaker 2: our ancestors did has changed dramatically across the planet.
47:58
Speaker 1: Is there correlation between iron accumulation and aging?
48:08
Speaker 2: Does a bear sleep in the woods? It is so basic?
48:17
Speaker 2: So how old are.
48:19
Speaker 1: You, Jeremy, I'm forty seven.
48:22
Speaker 2: Okay, Well it looked very different thirty years ago. And
48:26
Speaker 2: even though I know what I know, there is an
48:28
Speaker 2: aging process and that accumulation of iron does pay a toll.
48:34
Speaker 2: And people just need to know that the whole concept
48:40
Speaker 2: of aging is iron accumulation around the body, and the
48:45
Speaker 2: way I characterize it is iron causes aging, Copper causes longevity.
48:55
Speaker 2: If you study the youngest cells of a plant, h
49:00
Speaker 2: that's where you'll find the highest concentration of copper. Those
49:04
Speaker 2: young cells that are very vibrant looking looking to grow,
49:08
Speaker 2: they're going to have the highest concentration of copper. And
49:10
Speaker 2: the older plant cells, we're gonna have a lot of iron.
49:14
Speaker 2: And so it's just it's a very simple way to
49:17
Speaker 2: approach the aging processes, getting people to realize that they
49:20
Speaker 2: need to regulate their iron, but they also need to
49:24
Speaker 2: donate that iron so they lower the oxidative stress that's
49:28
Speaker 2: taking place inside their body. Does that make sense? And
49:34
Speaker 2: you get into the details of the all of the
49:40
Speaker 2: mechanisms of aging, the loss of energy production, uh, the
49:46
Speaker 2: the signaling that breaks down as we age, the availability
49:51
Speaker 2: of or the increased availability of sinesse and cells. Those
49:55
Speaker 2: are aging cells. What Bruce Aimes, famous American scientists here
50:03
Speaker 2: who passed away a couple of years ago, but in
50:06
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, at the height of his career,
50:09
Speaker 2: he was the most quoted scientist on planet Earth. That's
50:13
Speaker 2: pretty important. It's not we're not talking about Bob Jones,
50:16
Speaker 2: we're talking about Bruce Ames. But he did a study
50:20
Speaker 2: and he found that there's ten times more iron in
50:23
Speaker 2: sinescent cells and non sinessen cells. That's a really big deal.
50:29
Speaker 2: That should have sent a shock wave through Madison. And
50:33
Speaker 2: what did they do with it? Swept it under the
50:35
Speaker 2: table because it blows up their disease model.
50:40
Speaker 1: If we have a line of dominoes and the very
50:44
Speaker 1: first domino goes down, that effectively is chronic stress. That's
50:49
Speaker 1: where the cascade start. The game is run.
50:54
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And the key back to your interest in
50:58
Speaker 2: magnese hum hm. It isn't just that you have stress,
51:03
Speaker 2: it's your perception of stress is what really amplifies whether
51:07
Speaker 2: it's a problem or not. So what might stress you out,
51:11
Speaker 2: I may just not even take take mind of it,
51:14
Speaker 2: vice and vice versa. And so what doctor Seleig discovered
51:20
Speaker 2: is that when we are magneseum deficient, it's like we're
51:24
Speaker 2: wearing night vision binoculars. Everything is bigger and brighter than
51:28
Speaker 2: it really is, and there's an enhanced response to the
51:32
Speaker 2: environment and a more exaggerated response. And that's very energy
51:39
Speaker 2: depleting and it's very stressful for the body to have
51:42
Speaker 2: to be in that state all the time. But there's
51:45
Speaker 2: no question the perception of stress is the key to
51:49
Speaker 2: understanding you know, what's happening in my environment. And again
51:53
Speaker 2: we're right back to pasture and Basha.
51:58
Speaker 1: So what happens is that, if I'm following you correctly,
52:01
Speaker 1: your adrenal glands require various enzymes to make cortisol. And
52:05
Speaker 1: then when you're chronically stressed, then you start burning through
52:08
Speaker 1: copper and magnesium and retinal at as you argue and accelerated.
52:14
Speaker 2: Right, that's exactly right, that's exactly right. And the adrenal
52:18
Speaker 2: glands they require minerals to work, they require whole food,
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Speaker 2: vitamin C, they require retinal, they need vitamin A. They
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Speaker 2: don't work without vitamin A. And then the nutrient that's
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Speaker 2: most important that most people resist vehemently is they need
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Speaker 2: vitamin Z. They need to sleep, they need rest, and
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Speaker 2: they need to decompress from all the stress. We live
52:44
Speaker 2: in a very switched on environment. Everyone's worrying about the
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Speaker 2: latest news. They gotta stay up all night to see
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Speaker 2: what's going on. And that's very very hard on the
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Speaker 2: stress response.
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Speaker 1: And that creates a drenal fatigue.
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Speaker 2: Oh it does, yeah, and so it The thing is
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Speaker 2: there's cortisol, and cortisone cortisone is the storage form of cortisol,
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Speaker 2: and the way we're designed is that, again, going back
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Speaker 2: way back in time, you've heard of the fight or
53:22
Speaker 2: flight response. Well, if we're going to fight the bear,
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Speaker 2: we're going to require muscles up here, and if we're
53:30
Speaker 2: going to run from the bear, we're going to require
53:32
Speaker 2: muscles in our upper leg, especially the thigh. And what's
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Speaker 2: very common for people is they get stressed out and
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Speaker 2: they in an imaginary sense, they're fighting the bear. It's
53:46
Speaker 2: some deadline, some argument, some bad diet, whatever it might be,
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Speaker 2: and they get all sorts of pain up in their
53:52
Speaker 2: neck and shoulders. And that's the cortisol that can't be
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Speaker 2: made back into courtizone because it's missing magnet easier. The
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Speaker 2: process to turn off cortisol and put it back in
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Speaker 2: the storage requires this critical mineral that people know they're losing,
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Speaker 2: but they don't know why they're losing it. It's because
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Speaker 2: of the nutrient depleted diet that we are being fed.
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Speaker 1: And right at the beginning of the conversation you mentioned
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Speaker 1: the disease label issue. You're saying that the symptoms are
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Speaker 1: actually they clustered by mineral pattern, not by a disease label, right, right.
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Speaker 2: It's important for people to realize that the symptoms are
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Speaker 2: very real. Well, I'm not denying that the symptoms happen,
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Speaker 2: that the glucose intolerance takes place, that the insulin resistance,
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Speaker 2: it's a very measurable phenomenon, but it's not a disease process.
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Speaker 2: It's a metabolic process responding to stress inside the body,
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Speaker 2: oxidative stress.
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Speaker 1: And what your protocol argues is not to have a
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Speaker 1: long list of supplements, but actually to stop the things
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Speaker 1: that are draining your mineral reserves.
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Speaker 2: Right, and the whole idea is introduced people that many
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Speaker 2: of the nutrients that we've been told to take a
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Speaker 2: scorbic acid, zinc, calcium, iron, vitamin B, and a handful
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Speaker 2: of others are very challenging to our physiology. We haven't
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Speaker 2: thought that this is a salvation. It's not. There's a
55:37
Speaker 2: lot of research to back it up. And then on
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Speaker 2: the other side, so those are the things to stop.
55:41
Speaker 2: On the other side, we have what are the starts.
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Speaker 2: Start making sure you're getting minerals in your diet. Make
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Speaker 2: sure you're eating an ancestral diet, make sure you're getting
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Speaker 2: whole food vitamins, not these pretend synthetic things that we've
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Speaker 2: been given for decades, but to allow body to work
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Speaker 2: with what mother nature design or physiology to run on.
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Speaker 2: And once you begin to do that, the body just
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Speaker 2: perks up. It knows exactly what to do.
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Speaker 1: Mordy, how can I find out more?
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Speaker 2: Well, we have a website. It's called the Root Cause
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Speaker 2: Protocol dot com. On that website, people can go to
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Speaker 2: the resources tab and within the resources tab there's something
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Speaker 2: called the Starter Guide and that requires them to donate
56:36
Speaker 2: their email adjusts, which we will protect and honor, but
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Speaker 2: we'll send you a sixteen page document that explains what
56:43
Speaker 2: you and I have been talking about for the last hour.
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Speaker 2: We have a premium community noted in that website. We
56:52
Speaker 2: also have a training program for people who really want
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Speaker 2: to take a deeper dive. It's a sixteen week program
57:00
Speaker 2: for people who are readers and want to delve into it.
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Speaker 2: Got the book, this is the second edition. You can
57:06
Speaker 2: go to Amazon would be the online source here in
57:11
Speaker 2: the States. Barnes and Noble. I'm not sure who the
57:14
Speaker 2: carrier might be over in your neck of the woods,
57:17
Speaker 2: but Amazon, Okay, it is available and it's got traction.
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Speaker 2: It's really got some legs and it's really helping to
57:28
Speaker 2: change people's understanding of the problem. And let me just
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Speaker 2: real quick and with I always give my email address,
57:34
Speaker 2: which is Morley Robbins at gmail dot com and people
57:39
Speaker 2: can see how I spell my name right there, and
57:42
Speaker 2: then I always give out my phone number area code
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Speaker 2: eight four seven nine two to eight zero six one.
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Speaker 2: In the highlight of my day, I get calls all
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Speaker 2: day long, all week long. The highlight of my day
57:56
Speaker 2: is the people who call me and then get pocks
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Speaker 2: you when I answer the call. And one of the
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Speaker 2: best was a woman in London, and I could tell
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Speaker 2: she was really nervous. I said, ma'am, what's the problem?
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Speaker 2: She said, I feel like I'm talking to Mick Jagger.
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Speaker 2: I said, well, you don't ever want to hear me sing,
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Speaker 2: I said, but give me your question. I'll be happy
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Speaker 2: to answer it. So happy to have this conversation. Really
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Speaker 2: appreciate you taking the time to dance with these issues.
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Speaker 2: And I will confidently say it's going to spark questions
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Speaker 2: in your community, in your following and I'm happy to
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Speaker 2: come back and have a round two to answer this question.
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Speaker 2: So