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- 0:32Speaker 2: Good morning, Hey, good morning Mike.
- 0:33Speaker 1: How are you doing today?
- 0:35Speaker 2: Good? You can hear me? Okay, I can hear you?
- 0:38Speaker 1: Just fine? This is like, what what was that commercial
- 0:39Speaker 1: that used to do? They say? Can you hear me now? Yeah?
- 0:41Speaker 1: Can you hear me now? Was it Verizon?
- 0:43Speaker 3: It? I think so because they made fun of it
- 0:46Speaker 3: all and scary movie?
- 0:47Speaker 1: Right, Yes they do, Yes, they sure did it. Hey,
- 0:50Speaker 1: speaking of movies, I have experienced lost with you, and
- 0:54Speaker 1: my god, I have done so much post writing afterwards,
- 0:57Speaker 1: because that's what kind of a movie this is. I
- 1:00Speaker 1: really want to see it with other people because I
- 1:02Speaker 1: want to know how it's going to affect them as well.
- 1:04Speaker 1: And what I found out is that I looked up
- 1:06Speaker 1: the actual phrase itself lost with you romantic, psychological poetic.
- 1:13Speaker 1: That's what comes up when it comes to the definition
- 1:15Speaker 1: of that phrase.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Really, I didn't know that, but that's that's great because
- 1:19Speaker 3: that really describes the movie.
- 1:21Speaker 1: It sure does, It sure does, and it really opens
- 1:23Speaker 1: up a lot of people's imaginations during this day when
- 1:26Speaker 1: sure we have some indifferences, but that doesn't mean that
- 1:29Speaker 1: we can't take a walk and have a conversation. And
- 1:32Speaker 1: you know what if it's if it's indifferent, who cares?
- 1:35Speaker 1: You still got to be together.
- 1:38Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, it's the movie.
- 1:42Speaker 1: Were you on that path when you came up with
- 1:44Speaker 1: the idea? Because I've been there on that path. I identified everything.
- 1:49Speaker 1: And my wife and I are currently in an argument.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I said, it was the old zoo that you went into?
- 1:55Speaker 1: Was it the old zoo or where did you end
- 1:57Speaker 1: up with all the different and you know, the chain
- 1:59Speaker 1: link fans and things.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely we went to the old Zoo. Yeah, I
- 2:04Speaker 2: knew it. I knew you win. You win the argument.
- 2:07Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's such a place for conversations, and
- 2:10Speaker 1: especially a conversation like this one, Mike, because I mean,
- 2:13Speaker 1: it really does open up the imagination and and you
- 2:16Speaker 1: get so tied into both characters. I don't know if
- 2:19Speaker 1: that's because we're all binge watchers now, but I really
- 2:23Speaker 1: got into everybody.
- 2:26Speaker 2: I'm so glad you connected with it.
- 2:28Speaker 3: I'm I'm I'm, I'm really happy that you went on
- 2:31Speaker 3: the journey with the two main characters.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Well, you know, part of those characters that are in
- 2:36Speaker 1: the background are kind of in their own moment when
- 2:38Speaker 1: they come onto that screen, like the couple that's fighting.
- 2:41Speaker 1: And I don't want to spoil it for the person
- 2:43Speaker 1: that's gonna watch the movie, but but we've all seen
- 2:46Speaker 1: that on a path like that one where someone's not
- 2:49Speaker 1: getting along today, and it's like, oh, that's gonna be
- 2:52Speaker 1: a sight for our sore eyes.
- 2:55Speaker 3: Yeah, that you know, along their journey they do you know,
- 2:58Speaker 3: they meet a different individuals throughout the day, some of
- 3:01Speaker 3: them couple, some of them not. But each each group
- 3:05Speaker 3: of people that they meet throughout their journey gives them
- 3:08Speaker 3: a different perspective on what they're discussing, and it's almost
- 3:12Speaker 3: an allegory for what's for what they're talking about.
- 3:17Speaker 1: One of the cool things that you did here, Mike
- 3:19Speaker 1: is the fact that you did something that my photographer
- 3:22Speaker 1: at Channel three used to do. He used to tell me,
- 3:24Speaker 1: all the time, you concentrate on your words. I'm going
- 3:27Speaker 1: to concentrate on the background, he says. Both of them
- 3:29Speaker 1: need this story, and you do that in this movie,
- 3:33Speaker 1: because I find myself looking at that background and I
- 3:36Speaker 1: get back in the story. Then I go to the background,
- 3:38Speaker 1: and you gave me that full, full concept of what
- 3:41Speaker 1: I should be experiencing if I were really there.
- 3:45Speaker 3: You know what nature is the best production value, Yes,
- 3:48Speaker 3: and you know we didn't.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Have to use any lights.
- 3:51Speaker 3: We didn't have to do I didn't even have a
- 3:53Speaker 3: production designer because my production designer was nature.
- 3:57Speaker 2: And you know, wherever we went we had. We had
- 4:00Speaker 2: a great backdrop for the movie.
- 4:02Speaker 3: And the movie takes place over one day in the
- 4:05Speaker 3: Los Angeles hiking trails, so they're you know, they're constantly there,
- 4:10Speaker 3: so you're constantly getting beauty throughout the day.
- 4:13Speaker 2: And yeah, it's it was great to be there.
- 4:16Speaker 1: Well, there was even beauty in the conversations like the
- 4:18Speaker 1: first one where they kind of don't get along with
- 4:21Speaker 1: each other, or maybe I should put they're introducing how
- 4:24Speaker 1: they feel on the innercore of their thinking and it
- 4:27Speaker 1: doesn't sit so well with them, but they didn't stop.
- 4:30Speaker 1: They just kept going, Okay, well, tell me more about that.
- 4:32Speaker 1: That's the thing that I like about this movie is
- 4:35Speaker 1: that it introduces people to say, Hey, I got a
- 4:37Speaker 1: question for you. You believe that, I believe this. What's your
- 4:41Speaker 1: point of view?
- 4:43Speaker 3: I think that's something to be said for both characters
- 4:46Speaker 3: in the movie that we don't get in real life
- 4:48Speaker 3: a lot, which is they both listen.
- 4:50Speaker 2: They listen without.
- 4:52Speaker 3: Waiting for the other person to finish, so they can
- 4:55Speaker 3: say what they're going to say.
- 4:56Speaker 2: And I think in.
- 4:58Speaker 3: That way, the movie a little bit of a fantasy.
- 5:03Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a fairy tale because that's.
- 5:06Speaker 3: Just not how reality works, but sometimes that's how we
- 5:09Speaker 3: wish it would work. So it's kind of a neat
- 5:12Speaker 3: thing to see two people that are doing something that's
- 5:15Speaker 3: not normal in human nature.
- 5:18Speaker 2: But I think that's what makes the movie magic.
- 5:21Speaker 1: Well part of that magic is and we all kind
- 5:23Speaker 1: of giggle, and I would love to see other people
- 5:25Speaker 1: do this. Is that when the older couple just wants
- 5:28Speaker 1: a selfie that they can send to their grandkids. We've
- 5:30Speaker 1: all been in that situation. Doesn't have to be the grandkids.
- 5:32Speaker 1: It could be your own kids. But we've all been
- 5:34Speaker 1: there and we happen to come across these people who
- 5:37Speaker 1: we don't know, but we trust them to hold our phone.
- 5:41Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 5:42Speaker 3: You know, it's funny that when I've hiked the La
- 5:45Speaker 3: Trails a lot over the years, and you come across
- 5:49Speaker 3: all kinds of different people and have all kinds of
- 5:52Speaker 3: different conversations, and no matter what walk of life people
- 5:55Speaker 3: are from, they're a lot more vulnerable when they're on
- 6:00Speaker 3: out in nature, they're on a hike, they're away from
- 6:02Speaker 3: their normal lives, so you know, they tend to be
- 6:06Speaker 3: more friendly, more open, they share things with you that
- 6:08Speaker 3: they wouldn't normally share.
- 6:10Speaker 2: And so I thought that was.
- 6:11Speaker 3: The perfect you know, so this hike, this situation was
- 6:15Speaker 3: the perfect opportunity to showcase that, you know, showcase different
- 6:19Speaker 3: people that are vulnerable, not the way that they would
- 6:22Speaker 3: be in real life, but how they are on a
- 6:25Speaker 3: hiking trail.
- 6:26Speaker 1: I've been a daily writer since July of nineteen ninety four,
- 6:29Speaker 1: which happened to start right there in California, in Santa Barbara.
- 6:33Speaker 1: And the thing is is that one of the things
- 6:35Speaker 1: that really caught my attention right off the bat, what
- 6:38Speaker 1: is she writing in a journal? And I would if
- 6:41Speaker 1: that does not inspire somebody to start telling and sharing
- 6:44Speaker 1: their story, because I mean, it was it put in
- 6:47Speaker 1: there for basically a hey, people, wake up, get your
- 6:50Speaker 1: story down.
- 6:53Speaker 2: I love that. I mean, no, I hadn't.
- 6:55Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about that, but but you know, it
- 6:59Speaker 3: just it give.
- 7:00Speaker 2: It frames the movie.
- 7:01Speaker 3: I guess it gives a little bit of structure for
- 7:04Speaker 3: how she feels at the beginning of the movie, and
- 7:07Speaker 3: then you get a little bit of how she feels
- 7:08Speaker 3: at the end of the movie because she's she's writing
- 7:11Speaker 3: it down and you're also hearing her thoughts, you know,
- 7:13Speaker 3: in the narration. So I guess it gave it a
- 7:16Speaker 3: little bit of structure. But certainly if it inspires someone
- 7:19Speaker 3: to journal and to write down in their thoughts, that's
- 7:23Speaker 3: a great thing to do.
- 7:24Speaker 1: And of course parents and grandparents are going who in
- 7:26Speaker 1: their right mind would drop off their kid it's such
- 7:29Speaker 1: a path in Los Angeles, and and not know who
- 7:31Speaker 1: they're going to be hanging out with. And I mean,
- 7:33Speaker 1: my protective guards were up so high for her, but
- 7:37Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, I started going, all right,
- 7:39Speaker 1: I'm getting into this. There's something going on here. Okay,
- 7:41Speaker 1: I'm gonna relax. No more judgment.
- 7:46Speaker 2: Love.
- 7:46Speaker 3: I love to hear people's you know, different reactions to
- 7:50Speaker 3: the movie, things that I didn't think of. I guess
- 7:52Speaker 3: when I was writing it, only because maybe I know
- 7:56Speaker 3: the characters better than the you know, than the audience would.
- 7:59Speaker 3: So I knew that she already was this kind of
- 8:03Speaker 3: feisty young girl who just really wanted to actually her
- 8:09Speaker 3: In my mind, her goal was to get away from
- 8:11Speaker 3: her aunt for a few hours.
- 8:13Speaker 2: She just wanted to get out of the house. She
- 8:15Speaker 2: wanted to get.
- 8:15Speaker 3: Away, and she wanted to escape, and this was her
- 8:18Speaker 3: escape from her aunt. So in my mind, Naomi really
- 8:22Speaker 3: demanded that her aunt take her and drop her off
- 8:26Speaker 3: at this hiking trail so that she could escape her house,
- 8:29Speaker 3: you know, get away from.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Her, because you saw how the aunt acts.
- 8:34Speaker 3: You know, she's not very she's a little bit abrasive,
- 8:37Speaker 3: so nobody wants to spend a lot of time, you know,
- 8:40Speaker 3: she doesn't want to spend a lot of time with her.
- 8:41Speaker 3: So in my mind, she just she demanded that she
- 8:44Speaker 3: would go on a hike because she doesn't want to
- 8:46Speaker 3: be at home.
- 8:46Speaker 2: But you know, I love the perspectives.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Well, I cringed when she got back in that car
- 8:51Speaker 1: at the end, because I mean it was like, oh God,
- 8:53Speaker 1: I've been here before. Oh God, please stop, stop, please
- 8:59Speaker 1: don't move. Mike Southerly, the film director and writer, is
- 9:02Speaker 1: coming right back. The name of the movie lost with you.
- 9:09Speaker 1: You will be blown away, And it comes from the
- 9:12Speaker 1: very creative Mike Southerly. Now, something happens in the movie,
- 9:16Speaker 1: and it right away took me to a place, and
- 9:18Speaker 1: that is falling on the trail, and listeners need to
- 9:21Speaker 1: understand this trail is not exactly the perfect paved trail.
- 9:24Speaker 1: It is an honest to god living California trail. Well,
- 9:27Speaker 1: when I saw that happen, instantly I went to Mark Marin,
- 9:30Speaker 1: who took a tumble on that very trail, and it's like,
- 9:33Speaker 1: oh my god, I mean, this must happen all the
- 9:36Speaker 1: dang time on this trail.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Are you talking about the hiker who they find unconscious?
- 9:43Speaker 1: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you.
- 9:46Speaker 3: Know it does You know they they're not They're not
- 9:50Speaker 3: totally safe everywhere, and you have to be careful with
- 9:53Speaker 3: what you're with, what you're doing, and also you hope
- 9:56Speaker 3: that other hikers, you know, would help someone if they
- 10:00Speaker 3: got hurt or were in trouble. And I think that
- 10:03Speaker 3: was that was part of it, even though that particular
- 10:05Speaker 3: situation has never happened to me. I kind of was
- 10:08Speaker 3: writing it for a little bit of you know, a
- 10:10Speaker 3: little bit of drama and danger.
- 10:13Speaker 1: Another Arrow Collins research moment. All because of you, All
- 10:17Speaker 1: because of you. Who are you when no one is watching?
- 10:22Speaker 1: Oh my god. I love doing the research on that
- 10:25Speaker 1: because it went in every single direction because we all
- 10:29Speaker 1: assume and is your life based on assumption? That's gonna
- 10:33Speaker 1: be the game changer. I want that T shirt.
- 10:37Speaker 2: I love that.
- 10:37Speaker 3: I love that you pick that you picked that out,
- 10:40Speaker 3: and that you picked up on that, and that's something
- 10:43Speaker 3: that you know that you thought about and research afterwards.
- 10:49Speaker 3: I mean, you know that that was the assignment that
- 10:52Speaker 3: she got from her teacher, and it kind of frames
- 10:55Speaker 3: her day and and what she's writing in her journal
- 10:59Speaker 3: because it was supposed to be it's the subject of
- 11:02Speaker 3: the paper that she's supposed to write, which kind of again,
- 11:06Speaker 3: it structures the day where she's supposed to be writing
- 11:08Speaker 3: this paper and never quite gets to it. But this
- 11:11Speaker 3: experience with this other person changes or gives her the
- 11:16Speaker 3: gives her what she's going to write down at the
- 11:20Speaker 3: end of the day. So yeah, I love that's that's
- 11:24Speaker 3: something that inspired you.
- 11:26Speaker 2: Well.
- 11:26Speaker 1: I love the fact that the teacher gave her that
- 11:28Speaker 1: writing assignment because to this day, I still have my
- 11:31Speaker 1: journal that my teacher, Missus Cox, gave me at Riverside
- 11:33Speaker 1: Junior High School ninth grade. And you know, in these pages,
- 11:37Speaker 1: I literally say, why in God's name would Elton John
- 11:40Speaker 1: team up with somebody like Kiki d who I do
- 11:43Speaker 1: not know, to do a song called Don't Go Break
- 11:45Speaker 1: in My Heart? And I'm going, oh my God, don't
- 11:47Speaker 1: ever throw this book away because this is that era
- 11:51Speaker 1: and it's like, I'll never find anything like this again.
- 11:53Speaker 1: So look at what you're doing. You're getting us to
- 11:56Speaker 1: think about our own journals that we kept together while
- 11:59Speaker 1: we were in high school and they're in a box
- 12:01Speaker 1: in your attic.
- 12:03Speaker 2: That's incredible.
- 12:04Speaker 3: I mean, thanks so much for your for sharing that,
- 12:08Speaker 3: and and I I love that that that that part
- 12:11Speaker 3: of the movie was inspiring, uh for you. And yeah,
- 12:15Speaker 3: I mean I keep a journal too, and I love
- 12:17Speaker 3: going back and reading my old entries. And you know,
- 12:22Speaker 3: you your life passes by so quickly that you forget, uh,
- 12:25Speaker 3: you forget how you felt at certain times.
- 12:28Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's wonderful.
- 12:30Speaker 1: And we can't leave out the opera singer. I mean,
- 12:32Speaker 1: I my god, you know, you Ti, there are two
- 12:35Speaker 1: different breaks in this movie that I thought were just
- 12:37Speaker 1: absolutely priceless. The one right here is is the opera singer.
- 12:41Speaker 1: And then I've got another one for you.
- 12:45Speaker 2: I'm I'm so happy that you loved that part.
- 12:47Speaker 3: It kind of you know, for I saw it with
- 12:50Speaker 3: I got to see you with an audience, which was
- 12:52Speaker 3: so great because.
- 12:52Speaker 1: I spoiled you.
- 12:55Speaker 2: Well you will. You never know how people are going
- 12:57Speaker 2: to react to things, you know, you never know.
- 12:59Speaker 3: They they laugh at things they're not supposed to laugh at,
- 13:02Speaker 3: and then they don't laugh at the at the things
- 13:05Speaker 3: that you wrote that were supposed to be funny. And
- 13:07Speaker 3: that's okay because that's what audiences are for, you know.
- 13:10Speaker 2: You find out what your movie really.
- 13:12Speaker 3: Is when it gets in front of a of an
- 13:14Speaker 3: audience in a theater. And that was a great experience
- 13:18Speaker 3: for me. But when when the when the opera singer
- 13:23Speaker 3: jumps on a rock and starts singing, the audience initially laughed,
- 13:28Speaker 3: and I expected them to. You know, I kind of
- 13:31Speaker 3: had a thought in my mind, people might laugh at
- 13:33Speaker 3: this because they just don't know what is going on.
- 13:36Speaker 3: And I think that in a in a in a crowd,
- 13:40Speaker 3: in a in a theater setting, they did kind of chuckle.
- 13:43Speaker 2: I was hearing it. I'm like, yep, okay, they laughed.
- 13:46Speaker 3: But as soon as he started singing and they heard
- 13:50Speaker 3: what it was, they you know, quick quickly stopped laughing
- 13:53Speaker 3: and realized just what the moment was about.
- 13:56Speaker 1: So California. So because you're going to get that kind
- 13:59Speaker 1: of an experien ancient California another area. And I looked
- 14:02Speaker 1: at it as being the bridge of a song or
- 14:04Speaker 1: the creation of one when they end up at the beach.
- 14:07Speaker 1: And I don't want to spoil it, but when they
- 14:09Speaker 1: end up at the beach.
- 14:12Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that that was just a I guess
- 14:16Speaker 3: filmmaking technique, filmmaking uh, liberty that I took that I
- 14:22Speaker 3: took and uh and and you know, I wanted I
- 14:25Speaker 3: wanted to get some different locations and I wanted to
- 14:27Speaker 3: showcase some of the different locations in Los Angeles, and
- 14:32Speaker 3: you know, that was just my.
- 14:34Speaker 2: Way of doing it.
- 14:35Speaker 3: And and these are you can get away with with things?
- 14:39Speaker 3: People watch the trailer and they go, oh, how you know,
- 14:42Speaker 3: they go, this is supposed to take place over one
- 14:44Speaker 3: day and and they somehow end up at the beach.
- 14:49Speaker 3: You know.
- 14:49Speaker 2: How do they get to the beach and come all
- 14:51Speaker 2: the way? You know? And I'm like, well, you got to.
- 14:53Speaker 3: See the movie to understand how they go to the
- 14:55Speaker 3: beach and how they transport there and then come back
- 14:58Speaker 3: to the hiking trails. So I hope that that, you know,
- 15:02Speaker 3: made sense and people went along for the ride.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Well, I hope the sequel to this movie is you
- 15:07Speaker 1: with two new characters, but you're at the Getty Museum
- 15:11Speaker 1: with all that art.
- 15:14Speaker 3: I love that idea, and you know, this movie was
- 15:17Speaker 3: really the structure at least of the movie was really
- 15:21Speaker 3: inspired by a movie called Before Sunrise with Ethan Hawke.
- 15:27Speaker 3: It was made about twenty twenty five years ago, but
- 15:31Speaker 3: it's the same idea where two people meet on a
- 15:33Speaker 3: train and then they decide to spend the day together
- 15:36Speaker 3: in Vienna and just talk and they talk about relationships
- 15:40Speaker 3: and all kinds of other things, and it spawned two
- 15:43Speaker 3: sequels to it. So it was with the same characters,
- 15:49Speaker 3: and I think people just loved the characters so much
- 15:52Speaker 3: they wanted to see what was going to happen with them,
- 15:55Speaker 3: And a lot of people say it's one of the
- 15:57Speaker 3: best trilogies ever made.
- 16:00Speaker 2: So if you get a chance, check that out. But they.
- 16:06Speaker 3: I think if there was a sequel, I think probably
- 16:08Speaker 3: I would stick with these two characters because since you
- 16:11Speaker 3: saw them, since you saw the movie, you know that
- 16:14Speaker 3: the ending.
- 16:15Speaker 2: You know, the ending is a bit of a cliffhanger.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Yeah it is, Yeah, it is. Except instead of having
- 16:21Speaker 1: a beach scene if they're at the Getty Museum, the
- 16:23Speaker 1: scene that they jump into, they're at In and Out Burgers.
- 16:26Speaker 1: Come on, come on.
- 16:30Speaker 3: That's at La Classic and you can't leave In and
- 16:33Speaker 3: Out Out.
- 16:33Speaker 2: That's great.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Where can people go to to find out more about
- 16:38Speaker 1: the movie and to support it because we live in
- 16:40Speaker 1: this age where supporting a movie means becoming a part
- 16:43Speaker 1: of financially getting it involved.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Well, I'm so happy you said that because it is
- 16:49Speaker 3: an indie film and it was you know, it wasn't
- 16:52Speaker 3: made by a big studio or a big company, so
- 16:55Speaker 3: you know, so there there's there's a part of this
- 16:57Speaker 3: where you know, you hope to get at your investors,
- 17:01Speaker 3: you know, you pay your investors back a little bit.
- 17:03Speaker 2: But we're we're using a strategy that allows people more
- 17:09Speaker 2: access to the movie sooner.
- 17:11Speaker 3: So we're actually featuring it on our website, Lost with
- 17:16Speaker 3: You dot com and you can go there and watch
- 17:18Speaker 3: it right now, and it'll eventually make its way to
- 17:23Speaker 3: Apple and Amazon and all those things. But if anybody
- 17:26Speaker 3: wants to go and check it out right now, it's
- 17:28Speaker 3: at Lost with You dot com.
- 17:30Speaker 1: Hello, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 17:31Speaker 1: in the future. I love where your creative heart is
- 17:33Speaker 1: and it needs to grow forward.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Oh thanks, man, that was really nice.
- 17:39Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 17:40Speaker 3: Okay, sir, Hey, thanks a lot for watching the movie.
- 17:44Speaker 3: And I'm so glad we got to talk about it,
- 17:46Speaker 3: and
- 17:48Speaker 2: I'm so glad you enjoyed it.