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What does it actually feel like when everything clicks? · Cannabis School

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I think that last racing night thing we did was one of the
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every night we do racing is just so much fun.
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Well, and, and we change it up right.
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And I was like, I'm going to do different tracks this time where
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we have to learn it, you know? And it's usually like by the
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third lap where you start feeling comfortable, you start
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by. The 7th lap depending on the
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track. Oh my gosh.
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What was that one? There was one.
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I swear it was like 7 or 8. By the time we were figuring it
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out. I was like felt like it was new
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or. It was, well, it was just like a
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a different direction. When we did a reverse maybe?
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Yeah, I think it's a reverse race.
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And that's the thing that I I was just like, you know, it's
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not even about like the, the tires or anything like that.
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Like sometimes all about like, like the dirt race.
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Dude, I was getting so frustrated.
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I'm like, what is going on? And then you said something, you
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go, hey, what gear are you in? And I was like going all the way
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from 5th, 6th down. And and I was like, like 4 right
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now you're like, yeah, I'm usually riding 3.
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And I'm like, yeah, just romping that thing.
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And that's what I learned. It's pulsing.
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But what I like about it is that my stand shakes way more.
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Oh yeah. Like I could feel it in my feet.
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Like it's. Crazy on the route of the dirt
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ones. And I barely won that one.
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I didn't know how I got that, but I barely like in this one
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last second, it was like 0.04 seconds different.
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Like like your bumper was halfway through my car, right?
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I'm just like, dude. But it's skinny me nutters.
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But it's. Fun, dude.
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It's always just, oh, hold on, I want to spill that.
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Are you good? Yeah, those dirt ones.
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I just really got in the zone on that.
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I loved the dirt racing. I don't know.
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Oh, I love dirt racing and the snow one is all right.
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I just kind of feel like I'm sliding the whole time, so I
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just got to keep the slide going.
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But the dirt 1 is different because it goes soft and then it
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goes flat and then it goes hard and then you're just like,
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there's just so many different things that you can do and and
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it doesn't always work the way you want it to every single
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time. So you get used to it and then
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you start I start pulling my 4. Wheelers ever much growing up.
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Yeah, I did 4 Wheelers with like friends and stuff like that.
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Like I enjoyed that. Like the last time I went 4
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Wheeling was before Max was born.
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Oh wow. Yeah, almost 20 years ago.
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And we went with her family and we were down at Duck Creek in
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like Cedar City area and they have these really beautiful
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trails that you can go on this place that we were staying.
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And her dad had rented all these 4 Wheelers and they're really
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decent 4 Wheelers. He got the best ones, you know,
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like. Oh yeah, don't.
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Fucking care. But we went around and Steph's
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like, Oh well, if you don't do it much, I'm like, no, I've done
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it a few times. I'm good to go.
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And I knew what I was doing on him and there was a rock.
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I saw it and I'm like, I could jump that and I got to it, but I
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slowed down because I noticed it was just a little bit more
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sharper than I thought and I popped up.
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But I'm at the time I'm like 190 lbs so I hit it.
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Penny, shut up. Very good.
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So I, I noticed that it was just a little sharp, so I slowed down
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and it almost bucked me off. And I'm like, oh, it's a good
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thing I slowed down. And I pull over and something
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inside me goes turn around. I turn around and I see her
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little brother Ben, who's 15 at the time, and he fucking floors
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it. He hits that fucking thing and
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he weighs like a buck. Nothing.
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Oh yeah. Fucking goes up like this.
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Back tires are way high because he has no weight to put down on
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it and it was almost like I could see his eyes pressing
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against the fucking glass of the helmet like a cartoon character
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and he was so fucking lucky he hit the ground.
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It fucked up his back for life. But the four Wheeler barely went
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over him. Like it didn't touch him and it
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bent the IT bent the bars. Yeah, oh man, lucky son of a
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bitch. But yeah, the thing.
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Is fun, but like. It's scary, too.
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Yeah, we like started riding. Riding out on Banshees?
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You ever riding on those little fucking?
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Things. Yep, that was enough for me.
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Scared the shit out of me. That was also the only four
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Wheeler I ever drove that had a clutch.
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Like they all normally have the shifter but they don't have a
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clutch. And that one had a clutch and I
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was like OK, which is crazy. But thankfully by that point I
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had probably been riding 4 Wheelers for at least 10 years
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and I knew don't floor it like until you know what the hell
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this thing can do. I never floored it.
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We were just in the mountains by PG and even that like there were
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some little hops in that and I was getting tons of air, like
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just giving it a little going and I was Wheeling without
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trying. Like it was such a crazy like.
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Four Wheeler, it even the design of it, like you get your typical
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four Wheeler, they feel kind of like they're like a little fat
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kid, you know what I mean? It just it feels safe.
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Well, they're the heavy utility ones.
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It's way different than these. Super light.
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Yeah, the wheels are light. The frame looks like it's like a
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transformer or some shit like that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you get going on that.
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Did you ever play ATV off road Fury?
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Oh yeah, dude, that game was cool.
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We. Loved that game, my family used
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to play that, like me and my brothers, we would play that all
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and they had great soundtracks back then.
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It was like actually good music. Good music like Remember
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Burnout? Yes.
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Burnout was like that. Burnout was cool.
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He had like Mastodon and you had all these like heavy metal
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groups in there and I was like, this is cool game and it but now
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you play it's kind of boring. They're like.
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Yeah, yeah, I, we were riding 4 Wheelers all the time as we were
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doing like ATV off Road Fury. So I got excited and I would try
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and jump them and stuff. But the big utility ones, they
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don't jump the same as a as a Little Sports 1.
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They're harder to jump because they're hell heavy.
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And if you do jump it's mostly going to roll.
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But the other ones though, they, they, you can jump them, but go
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way too far and you got to really understand the control of
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it. Like it's, I don't know, dude.
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Like it. It's the equivalent of and and I
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I watched these movies with my family and we watched the Avatar
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movies. OK.
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The blue people wins. Yeah, the blue people.
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And it was better the second time.
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It was better the second time. It was more meaningful.
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I, you know, it was really cool. The AI the I mean, not the AI,
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the, the CGI, OK, much better than you know why?
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Because it was fantasy and I wasn't focused on the fucking
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glitz and glam. I was focused on what was going
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on. The dialogue is well written.
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The interactions are cool. You care about the characters.
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Well, it's like Fern Gully, you know?
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Yeah, but it. But it but it's, it was a
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little, yeah. Because I had that idea of Fern
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Gully before. I think that's why I hated it.
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Did you not like Fern Gulley as a kid?
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I didn't watch Fern Gulley as a kid.
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I was like a teenager. I remember seeing and so it's
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nostalgic. I don't know the last time I've
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seen. Oh, I don't even remember.
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It But I just remember them like the rainforests or whatever
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getting torn down and like all the little.
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That's all I remember about it. I couldn't tell you anything
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else past that. Like this one made sense though,
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because like, you know, the rainforest type narrative is
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just like they're just logging, right?
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But in this one, there is a type of metal that is below that they
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can mine on this planet. It's the only reason why we're
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there. Takes years to get there.
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But this planet, this material is so energy efficient.
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The Earth, which is not very habitable anymore at this time.
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They have been trying to figure out a way to get more of this
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stuff and the most of it is underneath this gigantic tree.
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Oh yeah, I remember the tree. Right.
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And that the only reason why they're not there to cut down
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the forest. They just want the mining
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material. They just want all of these
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natives to just fuck off. Like perfect World, even they've
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said it in the movie. They're like, yeah, if they
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could just fuck off, we'd be happy about it.
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But they won't leave this tree because they're connected to the
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planet. And like one of the things is
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like these animals, like they can ride.
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You have to connect to them right through your braid.
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And that was a cool concept. And that's what I imagine.
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Like on those flying things, it's like fucking banshees.
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Like because from. Halos.
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Yeah, no, no, no. I mean like there was a banshee,
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you know, quad. Oh, the four Wheeler.
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Four Wheeler, right? And those things just go so
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fast. But the guys that I saw doing
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that, like at the dunes, they had those paddle wheels, which
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is so cool. That's even more intense.
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I tried that. That's what I was like.
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I don't want to go too fast on this because I, I don't know
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this very well, but guys who grew up doing it, they were
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like. Yeah, we would.
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We would do that on my parents, 4 Wheelers just out on all these
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dirt roads because we would go all the time.
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And you get so comfortable that you're on these corners, on
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these roads, you're going 4050 miles an hour sliding through
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the corner. Yeah, but because you've you've
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been, you have a connection now. And it's, I mean, that was like
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when I was riding my motorcycle and the day that it clicked and
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it felt like the machine and I were the same was the day that I
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named it and the day it got its name Shelby was like from then
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on, it didn't feel like a machine.
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It felt like a part of me. And there was this thing, very
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first time I went on a group ride with a big, large group of
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riders. This guy, old guy who'd been
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riding for ages, was like, all right, this is your first, like
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real bike you've had in a long time.
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Ride it until it no longer scares you.
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And I realized how incredibly smart that is, because as soon
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as you stop having fear of the bike, you start doing things
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that you would never do. You drive like you would never
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drive because there's No Fear. Yeah, almost video game ish.
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It was when I'm riding the Alpine loop and truly I'm using
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these two fingers on the throttle, my hands on there, but
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like it's these two fingers. I have a weight that my holds
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the throttle that your wrist does.
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So I'm two fingering through the Alpine loop.
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My brakes are there. That's all I need and I'll put
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my hand up to pop my gear when I need it.
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Pass that I'm two fingers through all the canyons because
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it feels like it's just me. But you're flying.
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Yeah, and it's like nothing else in those moments, those corners,
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everything else, everything disappears.
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Nothing exists except for that next little bit.
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You're so focused on every little bit.
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Is there a rock? Is there this?
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What's the next second of the corner bring like?
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And you're right, I like riding till my boots hit.
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So I'm like right there, right as far deep as I can lean until
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I'm scraping going. All right.
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And and that's when time disappears.
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It's like nothing else exists. But you find that in those like
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sliding the corners on 4 Wheelers and stuff.
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And that's what the racing just felt like that night.
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Oh. Dude, especially that big turn
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like you would just you'd be like in 5th gear and just
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sliding through and that was the coolest like, you know, when I
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got into that flow, what were we doing?
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Was it F ones? I was like a minute ahead.
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Oh. My God.
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Yeah, you. Was it F?
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Was it F1 or was it something different?
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I think it was F1. No, it wasn't.
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It wasn't. The F1 it was.
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Porsches, the 800 PPI was Oh no, it was.
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Porsche wasn't. It yeah, it was the Porsche.
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I got into a flow somehow. You just destroyed me.
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Like I had it where you would, you know that turn, it's towards
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the end of this race, you go down that big hill, then you
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have to go to 2nd gear to get around.
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Race was it that we did on that one?
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I don't remember the place at the moment, like I love Dragon
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Tale. Dragon Tale's one of my
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favorites. Yeah, that one was unique.
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We didn't do that one very often.
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No, we need to challenge ourselves in some of the other
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ones. But it's that, it's that feeling
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you're talking about. Like when you're in a flow
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state, everything feels like it's paused and you're flying
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through all of it. Yeah, and I do.
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It gives me those little dopamine hits when we race
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sometimes some nights, some races I'm on it.
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Other races I am totally just fucking it up.
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I'm like, what's going on? But it it's that those small
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feelings of that. But it's cool because you can
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actually have that in other places of your life.
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One of the things is just trying to like the ups and downs of, of
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even having a job, which I know you're.
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Yeah, I know. I'm still in the hunt.
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Me too. I I mean I was like all the time
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and what I've learned in on that is that like the most most
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effective way that that's going to be is when I'm in my state of
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flow. And so when I started thinking
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I'm like, well, what what was helping me find this great job
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and and that is like allowing other people to help me on that.
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And so I was thinking about that with you, man, you should put
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that out on LinkedIn, put all the things that you, you know,
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just I'll go back to the post that got me this job, because
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normally people would put in there going, you know, been
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applying for jobs, It's not going very well.
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Like that's. Oh yeah.
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It's a negative boat nobody wants to hitch to, right?
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It's it's just like, fuck, like I saw this sad one.
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This guy, he's got a masters, he's got an MBA as well, and he
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can't even get a job at Costco. He just wants to stock shelves.
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He's like any job. How would he not get hired at
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Costco? Or just they didn't hire him?
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So independent studies have gone through about why companies are
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not hiring educated people. And the reason why is because
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there is an entitlement that came with it.
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I went to school for this much time, hence this is what I am
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worth. But now it's not based off of
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that. It's based off of how well can
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you get along with our culture and can you take care of our
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customers that go above and beyond because it's the only
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differentiator you really can do now.
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Like because the word of mouth is far stronger than any
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advertising. Can I, I don't even it, it's
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the, the shift I've had in the, my marketing mindset is that
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it's not even about your message anymore.
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It's all about how they feel about you and how others feel
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about you. And it's not anything you can
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encapsulate into a saying no, it's the relationship.
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They have with you or your brand.
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Right. I mean, it's like we make fun of
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Tesla cars all the time. I don't like them.
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I've just. I I get.
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I like the concept. I love the novelty.
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Of it brilliant. I would love in certain moments
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to be able to hop in a car and go take me here.
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I don't want to drive and it does that.
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I think that concept is fucking insane.
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It sounds fantastic, but I don't trust the company, the
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infrastructure, I don't like the car.
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Well, I was like, I saw this video, Bennett.
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I don't visit. I don't visit social media as
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much anymore, not even the videos, unless it's funny.
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Like you'll, you'll get them every once in a while, like just
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Randall. I mean, I never said anything
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serious. Like if it's serious, it's like,
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how did they come over here and carve out all of these temples
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directly out of a mountainside? Like when I hear that stuff, I'm
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like, that's fucking crazy. That's crazy.
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Like we can't do shit today like that.
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How do they fucking do that? And how do they do this?
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Where do where's all the material of that?
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I get sucked into those things right, but I don't get sucked
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into the culture anymore because there is no culture.
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There is this flaccid. It's just negative.
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Everything's attached to a negative approach, right and I
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just see that a lot of people who start going with that
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negative approach online, especially like on LinkedIn,
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they still do it there. So what I posted was hey, been
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out of tried my hand at my own business, market shifted, didn't
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work out. Doesn't matter.
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I'm, you know, have above average EQ, tons of experience
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in their understanding how to be a rock star, hitting the ground
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running and being willing to put my ego aside for the greater
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good of the company. If you know anybody, let me
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know. That was it.
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And then I got hit up. Hey, you ever thought about
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doing this? No, cool, here you go.
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Because they're always looking. This company's always looking
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for people oriented people, which is such a rarity.
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I've seen a lot of people leave this company that I went through
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the Academy and they were very capable.
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Like they know this industry. I didn't know shit about this
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industry. Why'd they leave?
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It's this entitlement I've noticed with the younger people
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who've gone to college and shit like that.
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Like, I went to college and I enjoyed my time there, but I
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would be like, well, when I was going through my class, fucking
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no. Yeah.
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Because really, all that is is like, I learned to learn how
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this teacher wanted me to learn. Yeah.
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Whatever they needed me to do to get a letter, Gary, to get a
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piece of paper, that really doesn't mean what it used to me.
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And it's not to discredit like every education or the classroom
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settings and that, but it's just there has been so many times
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that even in life I've gathered from certain people of like, OK,
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they learned this in college. That's been disproven a million
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times here and just kind of showing it and going, all right,
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well, I understand you learned that in college, but is it
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possible that some of what you learned isn't correct?
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Well, I mean, in that, I mean in both sides.
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It's really hard for him because it's easy to have static
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education where it's just memorize, regurgitate and
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memorize, regurgitate, right. So when we take the the
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education system, we're starting to see a shift in it too, man.
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Like just yesterday, I believe it's in, it might be in Michigan
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or somewhere else in those states, but they just laid off
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400 teachers and the community was really pissed off.
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And they're like, oh, oh. But then, hearing about what's
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coming in place, AIAI infused classes with teachers who
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understand how to utilize it to develop real education for the
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time that they're living in right now.
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Yeah. I'm just looking at classroom
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size though and if you're getting rid of 400 that's a lot
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of people in one classroom, even if it is AI with a teacher
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assistant. Yeah, no, no, because of what
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they're looking at is that a lot of these people who had these
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positions. Are redundant or what?
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Are irrelevant because these teachers all teach.
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Exactly. I'm curious what's what is
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irrelevant in their system that they can cut out 400 teachers
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and go AI is going to replace 400 teachers?
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Because all that tells me is either there's classrooms run
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strictly by AI or classroom sizes go.
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The classroom sizes will go up, but. 400 teachers in one areas,
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still a good number. So I would look at that and go,
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how many students does that put into a classroom?
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And yeah, that's great there. How many students does that put
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into our classrooms for our kids too?
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Like is that a really long term strategic smart solution or is
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it just a solution we're being presented with at the moment?
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No, I, I think what it is, it's, it's an actual, it's represented
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by the amount of people who are educated and unemployed.
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So they're looking at it where they're teaching them is that.
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College level or is that under? College, all of it because it's
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preparatory, right? All of your.
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Your SO it's pre college. Yeah, it's pre college stuff,
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like all the high school students and stuff like that.
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But what they're finding is that people are graduating, but
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they're graduating by the skin of their teeth on memorization,
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regurgitation, and then. That's how school is.
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Right. But that's that's the concept
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that I'm thinking that is going there.
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I don't know, this is a more of a hypothesis of what I'm seeing
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from the outside. Just trying to look at like, why
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would you make that choice? It's it's like.
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Well, because already we've noticed our school systems
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pretty much kill creativity. 100%.
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Can learn how they want you to think and learn and not be
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creative or think outside of the box to come up with your own
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solutions. They're not real teachers.
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No. So it's, if you look at that
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idea of it, it seems weird to bring in AI further because
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we've noticed that it hasn't helped certain generations with
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creativity. No, but that's the thing that
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they're looking at too. If you look at why people are
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being hired, people your age, my age, are more sought after in
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big business right now because of a big reason.
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We can adapt. We grew up during a time to
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learn to adapt. If you didn't know, you had to
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figure it out. Now we have these tools that
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were built for us because if we had those tools back then, how
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much further will we be now? Yeah, yeah.
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We would be at least 50-60 years ahead of time as far as like
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actual progression of technology.
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So when it did the, the thing that I believe that they're
21:57
trying to do is get these teachers to back to teaching
22:01
based upon that one, like mathematics.
22:04
Kids doing mathematics today is different from when I did it.
22:07
What do you think is different now?
22:09
They've tried to simplify it because they look at other
22:11
countries such as China that uses an Abacus and they can do
22:17
complex math if math isn't like. Because we've we've simplified
22:22
it going, hey, we need a calculator.
22:24
But yeah, so many of these equations have been done for
22:27
ages and ages without any calculator.
22:30
So it's just going, hey, we've dumbed ourselves down in this
22:34
way to go. More.
22:35
Comfort, Yeah, comfort and that to go, hey, we don't need to
22:38
learn how to do this on the base level.
22:40
We just need a technology that can do us and how to integrate
22:43
with that technology, which is AI.
22:45
And what we're doing now is can you integrate with technology?
22:49
Right. And that's The thing is that
22:50
you, you have to be a free creative thinker now.
22:54
And that that's one of the things like that woman.
22:56
I talked to some of the biggest companies and their massive
23:00
layoffs. They are laying, bringing off
23:01
people that they cannot utilize. The problem is, is that these
23:05
people, they can't utilize based upon their performance because
23:09
Amazon tracks everything you do. It's very Orwellian.
23:15
Like you can't even take a piss for a certain period of time
23:18
without them tracking you. Well, at Tesla, they track every
23:21
15 minutes. What?
23:23
Is. Every 15 minutes you did.
23:24
Hey, what were you doing these 15 minutes?
23:26
What were you doing these? And that's how they track is
23:28
every 15 minutes of your work day.
23:31
And I'm like, that is like hyper, like micromanaging of
23:34
just in your asshole going, hey, I need to know what color your
23:39
poop was. But that's the thing, like what
23:41
do those companies provide as far as value?
23:43
Nothing. Amazon doesn't provide really
23:46
value other than Instantacious. Third party reseller to make
23:50
convenience dude. Even gifts and stuff like that
23:53
were more meaningful when that you didn't have instant.
23:56
Because it you had, you had to think about it in advance to go,
24:00
hey, this person. I'm going to send them something
24:03
for. I have to actually know them.
24:05
I need something for them. Not I'll get them an Amazon gift
24:08
card and they'll just pick something for themselves.
24:11
Oh, look. Look how well I look, how much
24:13
thought I put into that. I put so much thought into this
24:15
Amazon gift card. What does that say about us as
24:18
people, man? We we're lazy.
24:19
We're disconnected. Yeah, because we're all about
24:22
this. Can we?
24:23
We've grown up in a convenience world.
24:25
Well. Dude, like you get together with
24:27
a group of friends, what do we all do?
24:29
I like the the idea of. Yeah, at the your part at that
24:32
party, the. Birthday party map.
24:34
Yeah, putting it down, going, hey, this is your phone sitter
24:36
and it's a cardboard thing with just squares and your name next
24:39
to it or whatever, or like a bowl.
24:42
And everyone's phones are just sitting there going, all right,
24:44
You don't need to be attached to this.
24:46
We can disconnect and and connect to the human here.
24:50
Yeah, dude, it's so it. It's such a, I've been, well,
24:54
since I'm, I'm getting involved in this on the side.
24:58
I mean, it's seriously the most fulfilling thing is, is being
25:01
able to help these people connect.
25:03
It's not that I have a special power.
25:04
It's just I, I've learned a couple different things on how
25:07
to be able to spot anthropology in a behavior way, because I see
25:12
it as 12 different types of people, 12 different cultures.
25:16
And so I just know the idiosyncrasies of their
25:19
cultures, right? Such as like, you know, not
25:21
Americans per SE, but when you go to other countries, they do
25:25
certain things, certain customs and you go, Oh yeah, my custom
25:30
doesn't vibe with that custom. And it goes the same way where
25:34
you can find another one. They're going, oh, we blend
25:36
really well. We blend really, really well,
25:39
right? It's like you start to see where
25:42
even I, I think Americans and and Europeans in a way, are
25:47
really having a difficult time openly connecting with one
25:50
another that they start calling these guys who start leaving
25:54
places to go to the Southeast Asia as passport Bros and the
25:59
yeah, passport Bros. What they do is guys will have
26:04
like a really good job here in the States.
26:06
Do it remote, moved to Thailand or any Southeast Asian country
26:12
and they find a wife and they're happy.
26:14
They're really happy. And it's kind of annoying to the
26:18
cultures around there. But where it's really pissing
26:21
people off is right here in the States because women are like,
26:25
well, fuck you, I'm right here and you're going all the way
26:29
over there. Why?
26:30
And the reason why is because these preconceived notions of
26:33
what we think connection is if we really broke it down to
26:36
anybody going on a date these days going, what did you guys
26:39
do? Well, we showed up at a
26:41
restaurant. We looked at our phones for a
26:42
while, food came out, we talked for a little while.
26:45
I text 2 times. He had to make a call.
26:49
And then we left there and we looked at our phones while we
26:51
walked to the car. And then I think we went to a
26:55
movie where I only looked at my phone a few times.
26:59
And then when we left, I text him, Hey, I'm really tired.
27:03
I'm going to go home. But I was sitting next to him
27:05
instead of just going, hey, let's just go somewhere.
27:09
Let's start here and then let's see where the night takes us and
27:13
Uber it. That would be more like a
27:16
Stagecoach fucking feel because now you're not wrapped up.
27:20
And I got to do this, this, this and and making a decision at the
27:24
1st going, Hey, I'm going to go On this date with you.
27:27
I'm going to put it on Do not disturb because I want to give
27:30
you all the attention tonight. Is that OK?
27:33
Or even just not even bringing it out.
27:36
I think the difference is people make it such a big deal, they
27:39
pull it out. It's on the table, it's
27:41
wherever. It's in their hand.
27:42
If you never pulled it out on the date, they would have seen,
27:45
oh hey, he respects me. He's never pulled it out once.
27:48
Even if she has it out, you haven't gone for your phone.
27:51
Yeah, but it's so funny because you'll you'll see people doing
27:53
it and just like I'll, I'll challenge them at the event.
27:55
And I'm like, hey, while you guys are talking, don't pull
27:58
this out, just leave it in your pocket.
28:01
But habitually they do. So for those types of in the
28:05
business world, one of the things that drives me nuts is
28:08
people leaving their phone on the table and then it rings or
28:11
fucking on their watch. That drives me insane because
28:14
they'll look at it and I'm like, I am talking to you about
28:18
something that actually is meaningful and you don't give a
28:22
shit. And it's not that they don't
28:23
give a shit. It's just they've been taught
28:25
it's Pavlov's dog. So when I go to a meeting, I
28:28
take my phone. I said, I'm just going to put
28:30
this on silence. And I put a face down right in
28:33
front of me and I don't touch it.
28:35
And when they see it and I'm making them eye contact with
28:38
them, they do it once they go and I just, I just smile and
28:42
they go. Now they do that.
28:44
So it, it, it's got to be I, I feel just seeing what I've seen
28:48
that making the commitment of showing that I want to put you
28:53
first by doing this. An I say that by putting my
28:56
phone face down helps you to know that this is the type of
29:00
environment I'm expecting. And I want to be respectful to
29:05
you. And we all know it's
29:07
disrespectful. We all know it's disrespectful
29:10
as far as connection and it's not necessarily manners like,
29:14
you know, pinky out and which fork are you using, right?
29:17
But. You know what I mean?
29:18
Different connection of like, oh, OK, well, and it depends on
29:22
what you're doing. Sometimes it doesn't matter.
29:24
Maybe you're just chilling and you're not actually.
29:27
Yeah, like you're just in the same space and that's fine too.
29:30
Like whatever. But that's the place where we
29:33
all want to be. Yeah.
29:34
We want to feel like it's like, dude, you got to tell me.
29:37
Like, I mean, back when you were dating to where you are now,
29:42
when you guys have just a chill night that's just comfortable.
29:47
It's not performative. That's that's what I do
29:49
appreciate. I like there's Kaylee and
29:53
Preston. Yeah, every time we hang out, I
29:55
love those guys. We're like, you know what I
29:57
love? It doesn't matter if we have
29:59
plans, if we don't have plans, if we just sit and talk, if
30:02
we're doing, it never feels like we have to entertain, like we're
30:07
needing to have some agenda. It's just enjoying the company
30:12
and it always ends up being a pleasant experience.
30:14
It's not there's nothing that's like, hey, we need to accomplish
30:17
this. We go on hike sometimes or do
30:19
things that it's like, but it's not, hey, we have to get here.
30:23
Otherwise we're sad or disappointed.
30:25
We're just enjoying the journey because the the whole experience
30:29
is the journey, kind of like life.
30:30
Like it's not that end goal of hey, I've reached down here.
30:33
It's every day is that journey. Tomorrow is not guaranteed.
30:37
Today is your journey. What steps and things are we
30:40
doing today? Because tomorrow might not even
30:42
happen. Yeah, that's why like, you know,
30:44
people bitch about like on a date, if you go somewhere really
30:47
nice, something, it's going to cost you a little bit of money,
30:50
like probably about two $300.00 for a date, right.
30:53
Yeah. But this is the thing, like you
30:55
think about it as almost a mini trip to another country where
30:59
you are being waited on hand and foot.
31:02
They're supposed to have a level of expertise.
31:05
The food is, is quite exceptional because it's it's
31:09
not something that you can produce at home yourself at this
31:11
moment, you haven't learned how to do it.
31:15
And so instead of seeing it going, fuck how much it's going
31:17
to cost, it's like, hey, would you like to go on an adventure
31:20
with me? We're going to go to this place.
31:23
I've never eaten there before. I'm slightly adventurous or you
31:27
adventurous kind of. I think they've got everything
31:30
for everybody. Let's go there and enjoy the
31:32
experience. Let's not worry about what it's
31:34
going to cost. Let's just experience anything.
31:37
And I got no expectations other than a hopefully we leave here
31:40
satisfied from the food. Like if if a date was approached
31:44
like that now I put this other person at ease.
31:48
Hey, I'm not trying to get at you Nikus.
31:50
I'm just here for the experience.
31:51
That's another thing that's crazy too dude.
31:54
With all this stuff I've been like really getting into like
31:56
what is the dating mentality right now?
31:59
Sex is on a decline like no other time.
32:03
Less people are having sex. But we live in an over
32:06
sexualized online. So what does that say?
32:09
I'm not comfortable connecting with you in person, but I can
32:13
pay you $5 to look at your brown eye winking at me.
32:16
Well, it's, I don't know, it's very we, we live in a very hyper
32:20
sexualized Western civilization or world over here because like,
32:24
I don't know, it's Addie was talking to me about it the other
32:27
day. She's like, oh, I hate being a
32:29
girl sometimes. It's so annoying she's like guys
32:32
can just walk around with their shirt off but yet it's like over
32:35
sexualized if like half of their boobs are showing because it's
32:38
crazy hot outside and then people just stare at them like
32:41
oh you're such a whore because your tits are showing.
32:43
Yeah, but that's like they're inside their own head.
32:45
And it's like. Because the guys don't want to
32:47
look at them, because they're terrified, because they're
32:49
looking like they're going to be a predator online.
32:51
But it's it's this thing of like, yeah, that's got to suck.
32:54
I've never thought about, man, how it would feel to be burning
32:58
up in Utah because I know it sucks here in the summer.
33:01
And I've taken my shirt off a million times in the summer.
33:03
How many times would it have been like, oh man, I can't take
33:07
off my shirt because someone's going to look at me or, or
33:10
that's not appropriate. Like that would feel really
33:12
weird. But with the question I would
33:14
ask is, did anybody say anything?
33:17
Because a lot of times it's these are our own perceptions
33:19
that we feel that we can't do this because it's not, not OK.
33:24
That a kid can't take off their shirt and walk around topless
33:27
because it's hot outside. Well, I mean, a young girl,
33:30
yeah, that's different. You know, I mean, it was goes
33:32
back to this comedian. If women only wore hats, they'd
33:36
no bras. They didn't even wear shirts.
33:38
As men, we would probably be more interested in what's
33:41
underneath that. Yeah, well, it's, and that's
33:43
what I was saying, Like European is very different than Western
33:46
civilization. The naked body, there isn't such
33:49
a sexualized item. When I was all over Europe,
33:53
every place I would go, there's naked statues, there's naked
33:55
paintings, There's like it's normalized, it's naturalized.
33:58
It's not this like over sexualized that we have where
34:02
it's like, oh, everything is sexual.
34:05
OK, but if if I'm going to say that I mean it when we right now
34:09
they're I mean they're doing this across the United States.
34:11
These are massive studies because we've seen a steady
34:14
decline in population across the world, right?
34:17
And a lot of it is this self perception of we are over
34:20
sexualized. The reason why is that we've got
34:24
things like only fans that actually congratulates.
34:28
Yeah, but we've been over sexualizing long before any of
34:31
that existed. Not as not as prevalent as now,
34:34
not as openly accepted. As now because over the last 20
34:38
years at least, women have been way more over sexualized and
34:43
like even on TV and stuff, it's a lot of shots.
34:46
What do you? Mean by that?
34:47
So when you see a shot in a movie and it's all of a sudden
34:51
like titty shot and it's zooming in on these things and you're
34:53
like, all right, this wasn't actually relevant to the story.
34:56
It's just over sexualizing showing this woman to bring in
34:59
excitement for your story. Yeah, movies back in the day,
35:03
but not now. But that's still in this whole
35:06
time period of like this has happened.
35:09
It's not just only fans that's caused this.
35:12
Oh, I'm not saying that I'm I'm bringing up something that's
35:14
making a ton of money. That's what I'm saying.
35:16
Like Only fans is one of the biggest companies in the world,
35:20
the most efficient. They actually we.
35:23
Weren't talking about efficiency of business.
35:25
No, I'm saying like, but they can get everywhere.
35:28
And it also allows women to be able to sexualize themselves for
35:32
profit. So when there's an over
35:35
sexualization and women say I'm being over sexualized, yet they
35:38
over sexualize themselves to make a profit.
35:41
Oh, I'm not meaning with only fans.
35:43
I'm talking about historically. Oh, I, I mean, I totally, but I
35:46
would disagree. We've been over sexualized on
35:48
that one. Anything that was taboo, like
35:50
pornography or like that dude, like the only place you could
35:54
get it was a special CD store. Yeah, when I was in the Navy,
35:58
but now it's. Like when I go through Europe
36:01
and I see paintings and statues and no, that's normalized.
36:04
But in the US that is not a thing.
36:06
If we had it more naturalized and that it might not be.
36:09
So if we had this naked statues and paintings, we'd have to be
36:12
everywhere. But that is, we have this, oh,
36:16
there's a woman in a in a skimpy outfit.
36:18
Oh, there's a woman in a tight outfit.
36:20
Oh, I need to look at it. Oh, it's this versus like OK,
36:23
it's. That's a matter of perception.
36:24
It's not necessarily like with the greater.
36:27
From there was a guy from Germany who talked about it and
36:30
he was like, oh, you Americans are so silly with your like
36:34
perception on nudity. He's like, you come over to
36:36
Europe and we have like the penises and the vaginas and the
36:39
boobies and you guys are over here and it's like, oh, no, I
36:42
can't see that. Oh, oh, we do see it.
36:45
And it is it's they have a different perception because
36:48
they see different things that we do.
36:50
Well, a lot of it comes from, I mean, it was different eras at
36:54
what time they were at, because not all of Europe was like that
36:57
at those times. They were more conservative
37:00
during like the 1700s when the Americas were being populated by
37:04
Europeans. Yeah.
37:05
But their art, yeah, even in that time, is a lot of, like,
37:08
naked people and like, there's a lot of naked art.
37:12
Oh, I know, but I mean that I'm still trying to correlate like
37:15
what you're saying on as far as like the over the sexualization
37:19
and and that one, because I think that the I'm I'm saying
37:22
just from the statistical value, if they're, if kids are having
37:27
less sex nowadays, but they're doing a lot of there's an
37:31
overconsumption of pornography. So the kids aren't having sex,
37:36
but the kids are watching porn. A lot, a lot more young girls,
37:40
which it used to be just predominantly like when I was a
37:43
kid, it was a boy. You got Playboy or hustler from
37:47
somebody that knew somebody. You traded like bottle rockets
37:51
or money? Access to it.
37:53
Was very limited I. Have to get a magazine?
37:56
No, now it's just right there. But The thing is where it's
37:58
being hit more. You're getting it on X, you're
38:01
getting it on Instagram, you're getting it on a lot of places
38:05
where they're able to access it. And it's not necessarily a drug
38:10
because, you know, I heard a really good quote.
38:13
When anything is free, then you are the product.
38:16
Yeah. And so pornography is so easy to
38:19
get hold of. Yeah.
38:20
But now they are cutting down on it.
38:23
And it's not even government. They're.
38:25
Using. Oh, you mean like the?
38:27
No, the porn industry is cutting down on free porn.
38:30
Well, how would they make money unless it's advertising or
38:33
something within it? Well, you had these companies
38:35
like Pornhub is a easy one to go to, right?
38:37
Because everybody knows what that is.
38:39
But Pornhub has has gone down in viewership.
38:44
They got hit with a lawsuit because they had a bunch of
38:46
kiddie porn on it. So I think I heard about that
38:49
decimated them and then from there all their content creators
38:53
started going well, I'm going to do my only fans and control what
38:56
I make now totally relevant they're.
38:59
Already doing it and making it. Why not independently do it?
39:02
Right. And so they're just like, you
39:04
know, everybody had this perception that the porn
39:07
industry was just multi $1,000,000.
39:09
Yeah, for certain people, But the other people were completely
39:12
used. Like some of these women were
39:15
making like $1500. Oh yeah, for a scene.
39:18
It's just the same as only fans or anything.
39:21
No, totally, but. Or acting.
39:23
Or sports. There's people who play for
39:25
free, but the people who get paid hundreds of millions of
39:29
dollars. Oh, absolutely.
39:30
But the the thing that I see, I mean, what's over sexualized is
39:34
the exact act of what they said that they don't want to be.
39:37
If, if anybody could control this, it would be those creators
39:41
on that they go, well, I have to feed my family.
39:43
Not everybody was a prostitute. So you don't have to be a
39:47
prostitute, But I, I think that they do more harm than good
39:50
because if you start to see a decline in population, in birth
39:54
rates in marriages and stuff like that, but there's a high.
39:57
Consumption correlate that with the introduction of only fans.
40:01
No, no, no. I'm not saying just only fans.
40:02
There's, there's more than only fans.
40:04
I'm using only fans as just a, a individual case study, OK?
40:10
Because on that platform, I'm just saying like if you have
40:13
more people that are engaging with this content for sexual
40:18
pleasure instead of going out, making a connection and actually
40:21
trying to have sex with a human being.
40:23
Well, that's 'cause I think it. I don't think it starts there.
40:26
No, no. I'm just saying it starts.
40:28
There and like I I don't feel connected with sex.
40:31
No, no, I'm I hope I didn't. I didn't come across that way.
40:34
I'm not saying this is direct cause, but this is one of the
40:37
symptoms of being able to just get it on demand and not have to
40:41
worry about you just. Go back to only fans quite often
40:44
so I'm curious where. You know, well, because a lot of
40:47
the content I've been consuming lately.
40:49
Only fans. No content about these creators
40:53
and what happened to them and what didn't work out for them
40:56
and what it did to their lives. How much money they didn't make,
40:59
how much money they were promised, how much money the
41:02
company made compared to what they made.
41:03
They don't make a lot. And it was this expectation that
41:08
they had that I'm going to go on there and I'm going to do this
41:11
to myself and I'm going to make a bunch of money.
41:14
Everyone's different like I the other show that I had started, I
41:19
had that ex pastor on. She's in her mid 40s and she's
41:23
an only fans person and she only makes probably like mid 6 low 7
41:28
figures in a year. And but that isn't everyone's
41:32
journey. That's not everyone's.
41:34
But there was less porn people back in the 90s and 2000s than
41:41
they're ever. Because now it's like anybody
41:43
can be a porn star. And, and that's fine.
41:47
I'm, I'm not saying that's a bad thing, but what it does is it
41:49
creates more division with people because I don't want to
41:53
go through the trouble of what I think sex should be when I can
41:56
have somebody create sex that I want in front of me.
41:59
So now I can do this virtually. I think it's because no one,
42:03
like we live in such a disconnected world.
42:05
Yeah, that they're not, they don't know what real connection
42:09
is. So they're not seeking real
42:10
connection because they don't know what that is.
42:12
Why would they seek something they don't know?
42:14
They're just like I don't. I live in a disconnected world.
42:18
My friends are online, I talk online.
42:20
I I work remotely, whatever it is I'm doing or you know, I kids
42:24
growing up, they're not they're sitting on their phones in the
42:27
same room not having a conversation while texting or
42:30
sending memes or reels or some shit and you're like you're 5
42:34
feet from each other. Why?
42:35
Why aren't you talking? And it's looking that's.
42:37
All I'm saying this. Is this disconnected world and
42:40
so it's it's the connection they know.
42:42
Yeah, it's the same on the other side.
42:44
With and it's like it's such a weird disconnect because I can't
42:49
and this is just me, I can't imagine going and thinking an
42:53
only fans connection is the same as anything in person.
42:56
No, but there are a lot of them. Yeah, oh, 100% a lot.
42:59
Of them I mean, you know, one of the only fans creator that I met
43:02
and I asked her those questions I'm like, you know what do you
43:05
do like I mean, do you talk to like yeah, they I mean they.
43:08
Think it's real connection They do, They're like their online
43:12
girlfriend or something. And they send them gifts.
43:15
Yeah. And she's like, I really feel.
43:18
Connected. Yeah.
43:20
But maybe that's the only time they've felt scene is in
43:22
whatever. Conversations are.
43:25
No, but not always because I've had these conversations with
43:30
maybe even the same person and just interesting to hear how
43:35
she's like, yeah, a lot of them just want to talk.
43:38
They just want to want to talk and feel connected or have
43:41
someone to feel close to. And I'm like, that's got to be
43:44
an interesting feeling of like, Hey, I don't know you, but like,
43:50
and maybe that's the same way it was with like sex workers.
43:54
And that is that some people just genuinely wanted to come
43:57
and cry or connect or whatever it was because they didn't feel
44:00
that way in another. And I don't know, I haven't had
44:04
a lot of in person discussions with a lot of those people to
44:07
go, hey, is, is this a common thing?
44:09
Are you having people come in and and show like incredible
44:12
emotion or like express or share really deep life things that are
44:17
going on? Yeah, I think probably even sex
44:19
workers have gone down to be honest, because it's just
44:23
because of the the the reason why, you know, a woman at that
44:27
time would do that was typically because of financial destitute,
44:31
right? Yeah, they were on their own.
44:32
They had nothing to do. They had but.
44:34
More curiosity of like, do you think that is something they
44:37
experience is a good portion of people who are just coming in
44:41
going like I'm not looking for the the physical act, but I'm
44:46
looking for more of this emotional, this emotional
44:50
connection that I'm lacking in whatever world that I'm living
44:54
in. Well, and a lot of that goes
44:55
down to being able to be more self, to be more.
45:00
What is that? It's like understanding who you
45:02
are. I I think that's the biggest
45:04
issue that I see a lot with people is that they want to be
45:06
something that they're not. Yeah, or they're, they're trying
45:09
to put on a front. So there's this mask of what
45:11
they're wearing, pretending. Yes, and you can see going.
45:14
I just wish you'd be you because I can see this battle and it
45:17
doesn't feel like you. It feels like you're struggling
45:20
trying to do something instead of being you.
45:23
And that's, I'm sure many of them.
45:25
Like I know I've struggled with that in my life of like trying
45:28
to figure out whoever the hell I felt like I was or not feeling
45:31
like I could be me at moments and then realizing oh shit, no,
45:34
this is who I am and this is who I'm going to be.
45:37
Yeah. And that's the thing that most
45:39
people don't have that ability to do.
45:41
So because they're they live in a prefabricated life.
45:45
They live vicariously through anybody else but themselves.
45:48
They are a third party to their own movie.
45:51
Like they. Watch the MPC.
45:53
Yeah, they are the MPC because they've made themselves that.
45:56
I watched this lady skip across the street yesterday and my kids
46:01
have said this thing that just kind of stuck with me because
46:03
they'll see someone dancing down the street or something.
46:05
They're like, oh, he's got main character energy.
46:07
And I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
46:09
Yeah. Like this is my story.
46:11
I'm going to live it. I'm going to, you know, this is
46:13
my story. Yeah, man, that goes back to
46:15
like, you know, our perception of what people feel like they're
46:18
going to accept and not accept. And it's the same thing.
46:21
Like we, we came, you know, and this has happened perpetually
46:24
within societies everywhere. It's not necessarily just
46:26
America, but you know, we, we get weird.
46:30
It's like we spin really tight. We get way too conservative and
46:34
then we go really outside part of the fringes and then we come
46:36
back to, and it's always around connection.
46:39
It's always this disconnect that we have during a period of time
46:42
where there's a large amount of technological advancements,
46:46
like, you know, the industrial age, you know, a lot like Thomas
46:49
Edison's day. And, and, and I mean, dude, they
46:52
were just adventures everywhere creating amazing things.
46:55
And then it all stopped because it it seems like it's a waste of
46:58
time because something big happens to society.
47:01
School shift first before that age stopped?
47:05
Or do you think that age stopped and then school shifted?
47:08
I think school shifted, especially in Europe.
47:11
Europe produced some of the most brilliant minds and and they
47:16
and, but they encouraged them to focus on things that they were
47:19
good at or what they were attracted to.
47:21
So learning then was different. Do that anymore.
47:24
Because everything is Wendy's, McDonald's and Netflix.
47:27
It's quick. It's fast.
47:29
It's yeah, but the other is where the creations come in,
47:31
where the inventions, the new movies and stories that are
47:36
beautiful. And that's where it's moving.
47:38
That's where I think that education is going it.
47:42
It's going towards like how we took college classes in large
47:46
classrooms and that you had a professor and that they guided
47:50
the experience of learning. Some of the most impactful
47:54
learning things of of of not necessarily what I learned, but
47:58
how to learn came from college. Like the little bit that I had.
48:04
I loved it because of how engaging these people were that
48:08
I was learning with because, like one of the professors there
48:10
was awesome. He's like, you're paying a shit
48:12
load of money to be here. Yeah.
48:14
So you better either pay attention or get the fuck out.
48:17
Yeah, my dad said one of the best things he learned in
48:20
college was how to learn. He actually took a class on how
48:24
to learn, like how to study, Yeah.
48:26
And take notes. And I was like, OK, that's good.
48:29
And he. Yeah.
48:30
He's really big on how education is so important.
48:33
Yes, you need to have a degree and.
48:35
I think education, but that's the thing where I think that
48:38
education is shifted from their concept and over here and why
48:41
we're going to go to AI classrooms is that you need
48:43
somebody to be able to who is one has an educator's mindset so
48:48
they can be a mentor as well as an educator because they're two
48:53
different things. And so now they can go, OK,
48:56
here's the world we're in. We're going to explore this and
48:59
I'm going to teach you how to use this tool that just pretty
49:03
much turned into the English language above everything else
49:06
because the English language is the predominant language on the
49:09
planet because everybody knows that you're going to speak
49:12
English in one way or another. So I think that AI is going to
49:16
be that way where people are learning underneath it, but they
49:19
have to be guided by people like in our generations because we
49:24
actually came from a time where we could think creatively and
49:27
kids today don't. Kids today think in consumerism,
49:32
They think in flashy cool things.
49:34
And that's why I like, I think it's super cool your daughter's
49:37
into cosplay because she realizes that there is a the
49:41
more important thing in creativity and being happy than
49:44
to be focusing on the negatives of the world.
49:47
So that's cool because. I love that she dresses up and.
49:50
That's super cool. Today we're going to a jump
49:53
house for her birthday celebration and like she's like
49:58
I might go to jump houses till I'm 18 for my birthday like I
50:01
don't know I love. Them I see adults in there all
50:02
the time and. I was like, I used to go to jump
50:04
houses and like things. When I was 1819, I used to go do
50:07
shit like that all the time. Now she's like, now you're just
50:10
old and decrepit. I'm like, now my back just hurts
50:13
and if I do that much bouncing, my back's going to hurt.
50:15
Me. Yeah, I'm going to be fucked.
50:17
Up. It's not that I don't want to go
50:18
do flips and like, climb and do shit, it's that I know.
50:22
I'm. So much more.
50:23
Or if I do. But that's cool though, man,
50:25
and, and you know, that's, it's a great mindset that she has
50:28
right there. I feel for youth today is that
50:31
I, I, I think that the thing that we have become so focused
50:35
on, what do you want to be? What do you want to be?
50:37
Instead of focusing on go learn, explore and take risks, take.
50:42
Small risks. You're young.
50:43
Take big risks. Yeah.
50:45
Like that was that I talked to my mom about like Finn moving
50:48
here and his dreams that he wanted to do and how his mom
50:52
wanted him to go a different way.
50:53
And she was like, no, no, he needs to follow his dream
50:57
because even if he fails, he will learn so much through that
51:01
and so many skills and that and he will at least have tried
51:05
versus if not, he's always going to wonder what if I had?
51:09
And I'm like, yeah, like that is such a better way to approach
51:13
it, going try it, try and fail, try and see what you can do.
51:18
Because if you succeed, you're going to do amazing things and
51:20
you are going to love every, not every moment, but you're going
51:23
to look back and you're going to enjoy that journey.
51:25
But why not love every moment? I mean, the mindset now is, is
51:29
to know that you're going to. I mean, I think that's beautiful
51:32
too, because like Brandon, these last few years, few years, it's
51:36
been a bit, you've learned more on trying to run your own
51:41
business. We trying to grow a podcasting
51:45
business, which, yeah, whatever we did, we did OK, but it wasn't
51:49
great. And it just, but how much were
51:52
we forced to learn through the struggle And, and, and the other
51:55
question I want to give you is what do you think about how your
52:00
perception of connection has changed through your struggle?
52:03
Well my struggle has definitely helped me see a lot more people
52:06
because my struggle has actually made me more of a human which
52:10
has made me be able to see all the struggles and issues like in
52:16
life. Granted, I am far from perfect
52:17
so it's not always, but like overall I think I try to be more
52:21
introspective, try to see the other person and like way more
52:25
of where they're coming from and everything else.
52:27
And it's all of that comes from the journey from all of the
52:30
shit, the struggle of like going through things and going Oh my
52:33
God. And then hearing someone else
52:34
and going my shit's nothing. I can't believe I was so worried
52:38
or stressed or whatever about mine when everything else is way
52:42
worse than whatever mine was. Mine's nothing.
52:45
You go and you smoke and you sit and you go, yeah, it's OK.
52:48
Like can you, you realize like perspective in life of just time
52:52
and struggle and seeing other people have like everyone's
52:55
struggle is different, but everyone's struggle is the same.
52:58
I feel that our struggles, you know, without it, it, it's a,
53:02
it's a, it's a bitter life because it, you know, you.
53:06
I was talking to my, I was talking to my friend at work and
53:09
she said that she, I was really, she grew up with her dad.
53:16
He worked in the car industry. So he never changed his oil,
53:20
never did anything with his tires.
53:22
He always just took it in. So one time she saw her friend's
53:26
dad, teenager this time, and he was changing the oil and she's
53:29
like. What are you doing?
53:31
You can do that. She's he's like, yeah.
53:34
And she goes, Oh my gosh, that's so crazy.
53:37
I thought you just take it somewhere and he goes, no, you
53:40
can do a lot of things on your own.
53:41
And that that statement right there.
53:45
Change your mind. Yeah, and, and I think that's
53:48
like a a calling card to a lot of people right now is that you
53:52
can learn anything you want to learn.
53:54
And that's where it's not having breaks.
53:56
It's not the idea of I need to produce something valuable in
54:00
order for me to get paid to get the life that I believe I want,
54:04
right? You get people that are making 6
54:08
plus figures, yet they're miserable because they don't
54:12
have connection or they can't be themselves for one reason or
54:15
another. And it it's it's hard because we
54:18
live in these world where even money made isn't fulfilling.
54:22
When we were told it was money made for the last 10 years.
54:26
It's like, what's up? Like, you know, I'm Logan.
54:28
How much money do you? Have You're going to be so cool.
54:30
Now you can be some YouTube goes around giving out $5000 to
54:33
random people. Oh, here I want to show how
54:36
benevolent I am and that those are the people that you should
54:38
be more worried about. And and they're doing this for
54:41
what? For clout?
54:43
And it's like, you know what? Why did nowadays when you do
54:48
something nice, you should record it because you can make
54:52
money from it. Instead, it's like with your
54:55
kids, be who you want to be. Don't let anybody ever tell you
54:59
anything different. You go to bounce houses until
55:02
you're 3040. Who cares?
55:04
Do you like what's up in costumes?
55:06
Have fun. Like, I mean, until I realized,
55:09
like the other day, I don't remember what it was I was
55:12
saying. And I was like, yeah, no, I'm
55:13
just a kid. And I'm like, fuck yeah, I am
55:15
just a kid. I'm just a human.
55:17
I'm literally just inside. I feel like I'm a kid half the
55:19
time but then I hurt and I'm like oh but I also feel like a
55:22
60 year old. Dude, I catch my I catch my face
55:25
in the mirror and I got all this white now on my beard and dude
55:29
it it's a trip because in my head I still think I'm 20.
55:34
Like just yeah, right. Fucking playing around and
55:37
thinking about kid shit. Yep.
55:39
I'll go past the toy aisle at Walmart.
55:41
I don't give a fuck. Thinking about the jump house
55:43
thing with Addie and I'm like oh man, like I could go go do
55:47
backflips or like and I'm like. No, you can't.
55:49
No, like what happens if I eat shit or?
55:52
Like, yeah, I don't think all the beds.
55:53
I'm not 18, I'm not 16. Like I'm not doing this.
55:56
So this is the thing I want to ask you last.
55:59
How do you define yourself worth?
56:01
I have tried to think about that a lot lately and I think myself
56:06
worth comes from how I treat other people.
56:09
Excellent, excellent. Because I know that in the past
56:12
money is has always been a big thing.
56:15
And I mean and I know why. It was always looking at oh,
56:18
where am I in comparison to my dad?
56:19
Where like where was I? And all that.
56:22
And now I'm like, why? Why do I care?
56:24
Like, competition is great. I love competition.
56:27
But like, not there. Why do I care?
56:29
Why does that matter? Why is that a tracker of
56:32
indicator of what's important or valuable in my life of like,
56:36
here's something. Yeah.
56:37
And so I'm like, you know, I think it truly is the value I
56:41
have or bring in life is like how I treat other people.
56:45
If I am treating other people shitty, I'm not bringing a lot
56:48
of value to life. I don't have a lot of value in
56:50
that moment because the value I am showing is is not a lot.
56:54
If I am treating other people or seeing the value they have and
56:58
that then I think that I am probably showing up in a better
57:01
way that whatever action or thing I'm doing.
57:03
Yeah, is bringing value. And whether it's just having
57:07
good energy and giving someone a hug or being positive or
57:10
whatever it is or helping someone, whatever that action is
57:14
that's coming out of that, that's probably going to be a
57:17
better value. So that I think is where my
57:20
value comes from, is my actions, is what I am doing what I'm
57:24
doing. Dude, if you know, I know you're
57:27
going through the journey of trying to be able to find, you
57:29
know, just employment on that side.
57:31
But here's a challenge I want you to do is I want you to talk
57:34
to your chat and saying, hey, I know I've done this and I know
57:38
I've done a lot of different things.
57:40
I need you to tell me, based on the current environment in the
57:43
job market in Utah, where am I best suited to go and use my
57:49
talents and my observations and utilizations of AI?
57:54
And I think you're going to be surprised.
57:56
I think even like what you've been going after, which is fine,
58:00
but I like what I'm doing. The only reason why is because I
58:02
get to help people and solve problems.
58:04
That's it. Yeah.
58:06
Like I, I can never go back to marketing as my job because it's
58:10
not fulfilling. It's come up with a you.
58:14
You're about as lasting as the bowl of cereal that they had
58:17
this morning because it's going to be gone and they're not going
58:21
to think about it again because it what did it do for them?
58:23
They're only going to think about the next bowl of cereal,
58:25
but it's gone from your memory. You don't think about your
58:28
cereal that you eat in the morning going God damn that was
58:30
some good cereal. Yeah, right.
58:32
Fuck. Can't wait.
58:33
God, can't wait. More cereal get home.
58:36
Maybe I mean, do you guys I'm. Just going to get a cow.
58:39
Let us know if you're really in the cereal.
58:41
Hey, guys. Love you guys, you know?
58:43
Yeah, these conversations get deep.
58:45
Sometimes they really do, and sometimes they're just all over
58:48
the place. Yeah.
58:48
But hey, if you want to be on the show with us, we'd love.
58:51
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58:55
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58:57
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59:01
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59:03
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