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Liberating Slaves and Living in Alignment with God's Will · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome back from Times Square. It's that Kevin show, thatkevinshow.com.
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  Speaker 2: Grateful to have you with us. And I am grateful
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  Speaker 2: that it is back to one of my favorite times
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  Speaker 2: of the year.
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  Speaker 7: Why?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I talk about it on the show all the time.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a sucker for the end of year holidays. Thanksgiving, Christmas,
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  Speaker 2: all the joy, all the thankfulness, all the gratitude, all
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  Speaker 2: the presents, all the kids getting excited, the music, all
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  Speaker 2: of it. It just fills my heart with happiness and fulfillment.
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  Speaker 2: And even though we're not quite in the slog of
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  Speaker 2: that portion just yet, we are concentrating from here to
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  Speaker 2: the end for a good outcome for Christmas for Christians
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  Speaker 2: that are enslaved and that have no reason to believe
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  Speaker 2: that there's going to be anything good in their life.
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  Speaker 2: And we can actually give them their life back. We're
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  Speaker 2: talking about our annual Christmas. liberation of people who are
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  Speaker 2: enslaved in Sudan. And that voice that chimed in right
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  Speaker 2: there is Todd Chapman, who rejoins us from a little
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  Speaker 2: group called Christian Solidarity International. I love this group. I've
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  Speaker 2: told you about them for years. We've together seen thousands
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  Speaker 2: of people literally taken out of slavery and given a
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  Speaker 2: life all over again. And Todd, last year, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough time to enjoy the entire process for the
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  Speaker 2: full last quarter of the year. But we're going to
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  Speaker 2: do something great this year for people that are brand new.
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  Speaker 2: And we have new people tuning in from Anchorage to
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  Speaker 2: Miami every day. Like, it's just cool how people are
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  Speaker 2: finding the show. What is this all about?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, so CSI is an organization that for actually 49 years,
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  Speaker 8: celebrating 50 years in 2027, has been liberating slaves and
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  Speaker 8: really ministering to Christians all over the world who are
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  Speaker 8: being persecuted for their faith.
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  Speaker 9: But the work that is probably most.
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  Speaker 8: Unique and that we're best known for is what we're
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  Speaker 8: going to be talking about and inviting you to be
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  Speaker 8: a part of. for the remainder of this year, and
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  Speaker 8: that is to free Sudanese slaves. Now, this goes all
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  Speaker 8: the way back to, as my kids would say, the
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  Speaker 8: last century when a civil war was raging in Sudan.
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  Speaker 8: And militants were basically allowed to go into Christian communities
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  Speaker 8: and pillage and kidnap and kill and destroy those villages.
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  Speaker 8: And the outcome of that was hundreds of thousands of slaves,
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  Speaker 8: primarily women and children, were abducted and taken into what
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  Speaker 8: is now Sudan. This was right about the time South
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  Speaker 8: Sudan was being formed in this same period of time.
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  Speaker 8: And these slaves have been kept there for decades now.
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  Speaker 8: We're talking 25, 30 years for some of these people
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  Speaker 8: who many were children and now they're still living enslaved.
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  Speaker 8: And so CSI not only at that period of time
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  Speaker 8: negotiated the end of slave taking during that time of conflict,
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  Speaker 8: but what they weren't able to do at the time
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  Speaker 8: was actually secure the release of those slaves through, you know,
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  Speaker 8: government negotiations. So they said, well, if the government's not
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  Speaker 8: going to do it, God's people will. And so for
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  Speaker 8: the last, you know, since 19, well, the mid 1990s,
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  Speaker 8: we have been freeing slaves every year, thanks to the
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  Speaker 8: generosity of people like you. $ 250, incredibly, is all it
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  Speaker 8: takes for us to send our slave retrievers that are
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  Speaker 8: working year round, by the way, identifying these enslaved women
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  Speaker 8: and children and and negotiating their release.
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  Speaker 9: We'll talk more about that in a minute.
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  Speaker 8: And then bringing them back down into South Sudan and
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  Speaker 8: whenever we can, reuniting them with their family members, moving
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  Speaker 8: them back to their community. And if we can't find that,
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  Speaker 8: because some of these people were taken to such a
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  Speaker 8: tender age, they don't even remember.
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  Speaker 2: Or had their whole family killed in the process.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they might be gone. So if that's the case,
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  Speaker 8: then we set them up in new communities of Christians.
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  Speaker 8: This is all done through the church there in South Sudan,
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  Speaker 8: all powered by your generosity. Kevin, it's so unique. It's
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  Speaker 8: so beautiful. And this is the heart of the scripture, right?
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  Speaker 8: The Bible says that Jesus came for freedom. And so
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  Speaker 8: that's what we're supposed to be in the business of
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  Speaker 8: as followers of Christ, setting captives free. And in this case,
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  Speaker 8: that's physical bondage. And I will add to this that
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  Speaker 8: these women and children have been they've been subject to
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  Speaker 8: just incredible abuse across such a period of time. Physical abuse,
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  Speaker 8: verbal abuse, slave labor, sexual abuse of all different forms.
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  Speaker 9: It's a miracle.
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  Speaker 8: Frankly, that many have survived as long as they have.
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  Speaker 8: But we can liberate them. Over 160 slaves already rescued
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  Speaker 8: through CSI, thanks to generous people like you. And during
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  Speaker 8: this holiday season, we're hoping the listeners of that Kevin
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  Speaker 8: show We'll free several hundred more. So that's what I'm
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  Speaker 8: here for. And I'm pumped to be back every year.
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  Speaker 8: This is such a gratifying time of the year.
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  Speaker 2: I love ending the year with this because it is
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  Speaker 2: one of the most meaningful things that we've ever participated
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  Speaker 2: in as a family. And the ability to get to
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  Speaker 2: just be part of it is such an honor. Friends,
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  Speaker 2: I have told you the whole time that I've been
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  Speaker 2: on the air that I never ask you to do
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  Speaker 2: anything that we don't do personally. And that's true with CSI.
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  Speaker 2: We've given to them for years. And we've had the joy.
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  Speaker 2: Back during COVID, my kids were listening to me do
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  Speaker 2: my show from my home studio when they weren't going
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  Speaker 2: to school in person. And they would hear us discuss
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  Speaker 2: the situation that the slaves were facing. And they really
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  Speaker 2: held my feet to the fire and said, Dad, what
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  Speaker 2: are we doing to do anything about this? And this
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  Speaker 2: became the cause of the McCullough family and is to
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  Speaker 2: this day. And by God's grace, we have been able
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  Speaker 2: to literally liberate dozens of slaves ourselves as just a family.
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  Speaker 2: And we want to encourage you to join us on
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  Speaker 2: that path as well.
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  Speaker 9: 1-888-342-1010 is the number.
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  Speaker 8: 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: And if you go to the all newly designed thatkevinshow.com,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see banners at the top. And at the bottom,
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  Speaker 2: if you're on the mobile version, it pops up from
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  Speaker 2: the bottom and just is right there. But you'll see
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  Speaker 2: CSI banners right there. It is easy to give through those.
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  Speaker 2: You click it, and I'm serious, in 60 seconds or less,
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  Speaker 2: you can make your gift and be on your way.
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  Speaker 2: And so the idea that CSI is going to actively
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  Speaker 2: work until we have them all back. At the height
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  Speaker 2: of the conflict, there were probably about 185,000, maybe 200,000
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  Speaker 2: slaves in total that were enslaved in North Sudan. Because
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  Speaker 2: of Christian Solidarity International, more than 150,000 of those have
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  Speaker 2: been liberated and brought home and released. But that means
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  Speaker 2: that there's still 35,000 or 40,000 that are still there.
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  Speaker 2: And some have had children as way of their slave
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  Speaker 2: masters while they've been in slavery. So the number fluctuates
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. But even the kids we can now
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  Speaker 2: help liberate and bring home, which has not been able
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  Speaker 2: to happen before.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's pretty remarkable. And yeah, it's just one slight correction.
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  Speaker 8: Just got the latest updated numbers. Over 160,000 slaves have
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  Speaker 8: been liberated. So that is just phenomenal. But we don't
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  Speaker 8: really know, honestly, how many remain, because to your point,
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  Speaker 8: kids have been born. And so it's a real, you know,
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  Speaker 8: hard calculation to make. But we have slave retrievers that, again,
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  Speaker 8: throughout the year, they're working in that part of the
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  Speaker 8: country and they know how to spot these slaves. I mean,
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  Speaker 8: so many stories about, you know, a slave woman will
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  Speaker 8: be at the market or she'll be gathering water or
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  Speaker 8: tending the flock. And one of our retrievers will recognize
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  Speaker 8: the hallmarks. I mean, frankly, a lot of them are
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  Speaker 8: physically scarred from abuse and things like that. And they'll say, hey,
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  Speaker 8: do you want to be free? And then they'll negotiate freedom,
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  Speaker 8: not with money, but with a cattle vaccine that these ranchers,
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  Speaker 8: these slave owners need. And that's how we've been doing this.
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  Speaker 8: Your $ 250 gift does that. Also provides them with the
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  Speaker 8: resources necessary to start a new life.
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  Speaker 9: It's a dairy goat.
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  Speaker 8: It's a bag of hope with all sorts of supplies,
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  Speaker 8: food and everything they need, Kevin, to start a new
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  Speaker 8: life and freedom. That's what we get to do.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: $ 250 liberates a life, sometimes the life of the mom.
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  Speaker 9: And the child, sometimes two.
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  Speaker 2: 1-888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, or go to thatkevinshow.com and click the CSI
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  Speaker 2: banner at the top or the bottom of the page, thatkevinshow.com,
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  Speaker 2: the CSI banner, or 888-342-1010 and liberate a life right now.
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  Speaker 10: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, good to have you with us. It's That
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  Speaker 2: Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com for everything we do, including this week's series,
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  Speaker 2: asking the question, how do we live? How do we
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  Speaker 2: live in light of a culture that is hostile towards
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  Speaker 2: the God of the universe or maybe somewhat neutral on him?
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  Speaker 2: But the second that the Bible comes into the picture,
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  Speaker 2: you know, now it's the God of the Bible that
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  Speaker 2: we're talking about. That's a whole different story. ball of wax,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes just the fact that you say, I believe
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  Speaker 2: in this, or I want to walk according to this text.
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  Speaker 2: The culture itself says, what's wrong with you? And looks
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  Speaker 2: at you with either suspicion or hostility itself. So my
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  Speaker 2: question very simply is, in a day in which we
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  Speaker 2: should be asking big questions, how do we live? Does
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  Speaker 2: it change our mission? I don't see anything in scripture
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  Speaker 2: that says it does. So how do we do that
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  Speaker 2: with wisdom? That's where I'm grateful for shepherds who Spend
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  Speaker 2: an entire week with us. And this week we get
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  Speaker 2: two for the price of one because Rod Caesar, who
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  Speaker 2: was with us last year, is back. And he is
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  Speaker 2: the lead pastor at Foundation Church in New York. And
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  Speaker 2: his father, Bishop Roderick Caesar, who I personally was very
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  Speaker 2: impacted by his ministry, is joining us as well. There's
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  Speaker 2: some big celebrations coming up at Foundation Church. The 80th
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  Speaker 2: birthday celebration. And it's going to be happening over the
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  Speaker 2: next few weeks. There's a bunch of activities happening. a
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  Speaker 2: birthday concert on November the 6th, and some other things. And, Rod,
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  Speaker 2: if people want to find out more about all of
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  Speaker 2: the things, including the Sunday morning celebrations, where do they
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  Speaker 2: go online?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, you can go to our website, www.foundationchurchnyc.com, and the
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  Speaker 11: information is there to be able to figure out which services.
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  Speaker 11: Our services are Sunday at 9 o'clock, so you can
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  Speaker 11: show up and just celebrate 80 years of legacy and.
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  Speaker 1: Ministry with us.
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  Speaker 2: Which is very cool because there's a father to son
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  Speaker 2: thing that's going on here. And Bishop, I'm so pleased
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  Speaker 2: to get to have you on How Do We Live?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do this segment when we first came to
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  Speaker 2: New York years ago, and you and I were much
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  Speaker 2: more active together. And I'm so honored to have you
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  Speaker 2: on it now that we are doing it. We've been
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  Speaker 2: looking at Romans 12 this week, and that is all
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  Speaker 2: about the transformation by the renewing of our mind, that
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  Speaker 2: we can test what we may discern is the will
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  Speaker 2: of God, what is good, acceptable, and perfect. This is
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  Speaker 2: Paul's plea for us to live as living sacrifices. We've
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  Speaker 2: looked at what it means to walk surrendered to that idea. Yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: we said it takes faith to really walk by that idea.
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  Speaker 2: And today, we're talking about being transformed through the renewing
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  Speaker 2: of our mind, by walking in alignment. And Rod, I
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  Speaker 2: think that the tough part for, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: be candid, very honest here. For me personally, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have a problem giving God kudos and being thankful for
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  Speaker 2: when things are going good. It's when I really want
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  Speaker 2: to have a very strong outcome affect a certain way.
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  Speaker 2: And God has a different decision about the matter than
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  Speaker 2: I do that I feel like I'm, you know, missing
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  Speaker 2: something or that we're on different pages. And I think
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  Speaker 2: that for people that struggle with their faith, I think
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  Speaker 2: that that is often kind of a punching bag for
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  Speaker 2: why you can't trust God, you know, because it didn't
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  Speaker 2: you believed, but it didn't work out. So walking in
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  Speaker 2: alignment today, what does that mean? How do we know
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  Speaker 2: that we that our heart and God's heart are kind of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in lockstep with one another?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, good question, Kevin.
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  Speaker 11: I think that, you know, understanding that the Lord gives
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  Speaker 11: us a peace that surpasses understanding.
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  Speaker 2: Even when things are difficult, his peace goes with us.
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  Speaker 2: His peace guards our hearts and minds. And as we.
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  Speaker 11: Looked at Romans 12, we were focusing on this part
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  Speaker 11: of being aligned and alignment.
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  Speaker 2: We have to discern what the will of God is.
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  Speaker 11: And sometimes because we're clothed.
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  Speaker 12: In sin and shaped in iniquity and all these different things,
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  Speaker 12: our will is contrary to God's will. And so God
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  Speaker 12: may have us go down a path that is difficult,
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  Speaker 12: that is arduous, that is one that we would much
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  Speaker 12: rather not go down. But as Paul writes in Thessalonians,
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  Speaker 12: in everything and all things, give thanks. How we deal
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  Speaker 12: with grief, how we deal with loss, how we deal
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  Speaker 12: with pain. You know, Job says, the Lord gives and
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  Speaker 12: the Lord takes away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.
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  Speaker 12: It really is a true moment of transformation that we
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  Speaker 12: must come to. And in that transformation, even if it
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  Speaker 12: doesn't feel good, we know that God is with us
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  Speaker 12: and for us.
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  Speaker 2: Even in our difficult times.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: There's a connection here to what we talked about yesterday, Bishop,
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  Speaker 2: and that is that faith is kind of the counter
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  Speaker 2: solution to the doubt. And when we are tempted to
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  Speaker 2: doubt because we don't feel that the alignment is working properly,
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  Speaker 2: that's always a deficiency on our part. But I go
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  Speaker 2: back to the Psalms on this as well, because I
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  Speaker 2: think it's in Psalm 27. Where the Lord says, and
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  Speaker 2: he says it over and over again throughout all of scripture,
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  Speaker 2: don't fear, do not fear, do not have fear, don't fear,
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  Speaker 2: don't fear. And the reason that he always says that
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  Speaker 2: we should not fear is because he is with us.
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  Speaker 2: So if he is with us, and even if circumstances
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  Speaker 2: don't work out and we feel like we're all discombobulated
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  Speaker 2: in terms of understanding what his will is, that's okay.
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  Speaker 2: He's still with us. And that's the greatest comfort that
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  Speaker 2: our hearts can take. No, it should be.
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  Speaker 4: But what happens is we tend to see God as
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  Speaker 4: a convenience.
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  Speaker 1: He's our.
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  Speaker 4: Save-all. When we come to the end of our rope
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  Speaker 4: and we need to hang on to something, he's there
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  Speaker 4: to snatch us and to hold us until we hit
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  Speaker 4: the ground properly. And when things don't happen that way,
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  Speaker 4: we wonder why God deserted us, left us hanging. And
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  Speaker 4: we begin to doubt his ability to be God in
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  Speaker 4: our lives. But what we're doing is accommodating God to
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  Speaker 4: our way of thinking rather than recognizing who he is.
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  Speaker 4: He's the sovereign God.
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  Speaker 9: He answers to no one.
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  Speaker 4: He's the God of the universe. He's the God of yesterday, today,
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  Speaker 4: and tomorrow. And he does all things well. When we
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  Speaker 4: understand that and recognize that, we can let him be God.
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  Speaker 4: And that means from time to time we will be
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  Speaker 4: disappointed because we won't get what we want. But it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't mean he's any less God. It doesn't mean he's
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  Speaker 4: got any less power or ability. It simply means he's
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  Speaker 4: taking us another way. And we don't like the way
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  Speaker 4: of disappointment. We don't like the way of discouragement. We
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  Speaker 4: like the way of victory and power and overcoming every
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  Speaker 4: single day, every single minute. But that's not real. That's
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  Speaker 4: not real life. Because the Word of God even says
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  Speaker 4: the rain falls on the just and the unjust. That
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  Speaker 4: means when it.
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  Speaker 2: Rains, we all get wet.
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  Speaker 4: So how do you deal with getting wet? That's the question.
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  Speaker 4: Many of us don't deal with getting wet properly because
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  Speaker 4: we think God owes us.
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  Speaker 2: A dry day, a favorable day. And when we see
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  Speaker 2: storm clouds gather.
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  Speaker 4: We wonder, where's God? Is he so busy in the
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  Speaker 4: universe that he has no time for me? Well, get
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  Speaker 4: used to it because you're not God.
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  Speaker 2: Get used to it because.
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  Speaker 4: You have to the God of the universe. And this
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  Speaker 4: is the way he's taking you. He knows the way
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  Speaker 4: that we take. And after our trials, we come forth
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  Speaker 4: as pure gold. So we have to recognize that and
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  Speaker 4: thank God for it, that he's with us even in
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  Speaker 4: the days of disappointment. Because when the heat is up,
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  Speaker 4: we find out what's in us. And we all go
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  Speaker 4: through those trials and those circumstances. That's what we call life.
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  Speaker 4: And when it happens, it doesn't mean that God doesn't
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  Speaker 4: love us. It doesn't mean he loves us less. It
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  Speaker 4: simply means.
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  Speaker 9: He knows the way that we take.
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  Speaker 4: And this is the way he has ordained for us
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  Speaker 4: to mature us, to develop us, and to prepare us
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  Speaker 4: for the next battle in life. Because as soon as
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  Speaker 4: you overcome and you rest your laws, that's when the
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  Speaker 4: next battle is waiting for you. One thing I've learned
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  Speaker 4: never to do is never to put the weapon down.
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  Speaker 4: Keep the weapon in your hand even in the midst
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  Speaker 4: of praise and thanksgiving. And the weapon, of course, is
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  Speaker 4: the weapon of the word and faith. Because if you
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  Speaker 4: have those with you and you're celebrating the Lord and
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: negative things are happening around you, you can still fight
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  Speaker 4: and defend yourself against the wiles of the enemy. When
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: your hands are empty, that's when Satan comes at you vigorously, viciously,
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: and wants to overtake you. Because if he can knock
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: you off balance, he knocks your thinking off balance as well.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: When your thinking is off balance, you begin to think
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  Speaker 4: and ask amiss for the things that are happening in
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: your life. And that's when you begin to be resentful
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: and question the authority of God and the ability of
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  Speaker 4: God to come through for us.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: And some of us are so arrogant, we.
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  Speaker 4: Challenge God and ask him who he thinks he is
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  Speaker 4: that he would allow something like this to happen to us.
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  Speaker 4: And then we justify our walk by saying we go
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  Speaker 4: to church, we serve in church, we give in church.
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  Speaker 4: We are super saints because we are giving and not taking.
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  Speaker 9: But we fail to.
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  Speaker 4: Realize that it's a two-way street. You give and you take.
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  Speaker 4: That's why we gather together with other believers.
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  Speaker 9: We give of ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: We give of whatever the resources are that God has
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: entrusted us with. so that the work of God will
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  Speaker 4: have an opportunity to advance and go forward. And some
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  Speaker 4: days will be bright and sunny, and some days will
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: be dark and cloudy. But every day is a God
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: day because he's with us. He said he'd never leave
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  Speaker 4: us nor forsake us. So we take him at his word,
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  Speaker 4: knowing that our best is yet to come in spite
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  Speaker 4: of what we're going through.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well said. All right, Bishop Roderick Caesar, Pastor
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Rod Caesar, uh, So grateful for this week together. And
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: tomorrow we're going to look at what it means to
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: be transformed while walking in renewal. And if you, again,
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: want to be part of the weekend's celebrations on November
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: the 6th to celebrate Bishop Caesar's 80th birthday and all
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: of the good things that they're doing, including a great
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: concert and some other stuff, get on FoundationChurchNYC.org. Did I
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: get that right? FoundationChurchNYC.org. Dot com, dot com. Dot com,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: dot com. Yeah, well, we want to make sure we
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: get that part right for sure. All right. FoundationChurchNYC.com for more. Gentlemen,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: thank you again. We'll talk to you tomorrow. Thank you
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: so much.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You got it.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York. Don't go anywhere.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
• 20:50
  Speaker 10: Next.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Here he is, from New York, That Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough. Glad to have you with us.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: That Kevin Show, the name of it, we tried to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: keep it simple so you weren't confused. Thatkevinshow.com is where
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: you go online. And you can also, on that webpage
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: right there, thatcovinshow.com, click the banner at the top of
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: the page where it says CSI, Christian Solidarity International, in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: the fine print under the big letters CSI. And I just,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: every now and then, Todd Chapman is back with us
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: from CSI. And Todd, every now and then, Rob Davis,
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: who is the president of CSI US, will sometimes send
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: me pictures of.
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  Speaker 2: Slaves that have been liberated. And if people are watching
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: on TV, this, this is a woman that was just
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: recently released within the last, um, few batches of liberations.
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  Speaker 2: And I wish that I could put this where everybody
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: could just see the smile that's on her face, but
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: it is such a, a, a smile of joy, a
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: smile of calm, a smile of serenity almost. And, and,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: she's holding her baby, which Todd, that and that alone
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: to be holding her baby in freedom. It means that
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: CSI has been eminently successful with the liberation because at
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: one point in time, none of the slave masters would
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: let the little slaves children go. And this is a
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: baby boy. So the fact that she got to bring,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: you know, technically the slave master's son home to be
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: with her when she got liberated is It's a joyous thing.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And I just, I can't get over how much good
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: this is when we pull together and do it.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah, it really is incredible.
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  Speaker 8: And it's, you know, it's something that's in the grand
• 23:03
  Speaker 8: scheme of life. You know, look, $ 250 is $ 250 today. And,
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: you know, for some people, that may be a sacrificial gift.
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: There's other people, God's just blessed you so abundantly. You're like, $ 250, yeah,
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: that's a no-brainer. I can do that in a heartbeat. But, boy,
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: think about whether you're in either one of those camps.
• 23:20
  Speaker 8: Think about the impact of your gift. you have the
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  Speaker 8: opportunity to free a human being who has lived more
• 23:26
  Speaker 8: than likely decades in slavery and bondage and abuse. And
• 23:30
  Speaker 8: they never thought that they would be free. They just like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: you know, because it's just hope, hope can eventually die.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the Bible talks about that where there's, there's
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: no vision that people perish where there's no vision for freedom.
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: A human being begins to just diminish and you just
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: kind of resign yourself, uh, you know, to the, uh,
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: you know, to the fact that, well, I'm probably never
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: going to get out.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Well, can I just be really blatantly transparent here? I wouldn't,
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't last a year. Like I don't, there's no way.
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  Speaker 2: And these women have lasted 10, 15, some of them
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: like two decades or longer under the conditions we've been
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: telling people about the last few days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: It's incredible. And yeah.
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  Speaker 8: So, you know, you talk about those smiles. I just
• 24:19
  Speaker 8: think it's, Well, you know, maybe you can relate. I
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: can't relate at that level. But there's been times when you,
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: you know, have been through a difficult season in life
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: and you just feel like, man, Lord, is this ever
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: going to end? And, you know, Lord, where are you?
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: You're throwing up prayers that feel like they're bouncing off
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: the ceiling and then God breaks through.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: And you just feel that great joy that only that
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: type of, you know, situation can elicit. That's probably a
• 24:44
  Speaker 8: microcosm of what these these freed slaves are feeling. because
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: it's not just a good day after a bunch of
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: bad days. It's an Ebenezer. It's a turning point in
• 24:54
  Speaker 8: their life after decades in which, like we said, they
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: probably had given up hope. Don't you want to be
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: a part of that? That's the awesome thing. Everyone within
• 25:03
  Speaker 8: the sound of my voice, you can be a part
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: of that, whether you can give $ 250 or $ 25 a month.
• 25:06
  Speaker 8: If you have it in your heart that you want
• 25:08
  Speaker 8: to help free a slave, you will find a way
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: to do it that works within your budget.
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  Speaker 9: So please join us.
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  Speaker 8: We would love to see another 250-ish slaves freed during
• 25:23
  Speaker 8: this end-of-year campaign. We've got another liberation coming up in
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: the near future. And so every gift you give right now, Kevin,
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: in a short amount of time is going to result
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: in a human being coming back into freedom in South Sudan.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one of the big things. There is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a liberation just around the corner. And your gift right
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: now contributes to another person being included in that liberation.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: 888-342-1010 is the number 888-342-1010. You can go to thatkevinshow.com
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and click the banner. I also remembered that you can
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: also just type in bringherhome.org. That also goes right to
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: the page. You don't even have to go through another website,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: but directly into the page with all the information and bringherhome.org, thatkevinshow.com,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: or 888-342-1010. It's all there.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Now, what does your $ 250 do? It not only gets
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: their liberation, the negotiation done, there's a cattle vaccine that
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: is traded for the life of the slave. That's how
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: little these slaves mean to the slave masters.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: A cattle....
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  Speaker 2: Vaccine that they can't get, but helps keep their cattle healthy.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: They'll trade a dose of that for a slave's life.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: It involves the cost of that vaccine, but then everything
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: else goes towards their, what we call the bag of hope,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: which is a year's worth of food, a year's worth
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: of grain to plant a seed for another.
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: Year's worth of food.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: So basically like two years worth of food and then
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: all the utensils they need to cook and clean and
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: garden with and blankets and tarps and things to help
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: protect them in the weather. And there's other stuff in there,
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: a Bible, some other things. The coolest thing is that
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: they get a little she goat that they get to
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: literally take for themselves. They get milk and cheese from
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that goat. They can breed that goat and create little
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: kids and sell those for some micro enterprise and help
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: them provide themselves for a new way of life. It
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: is the most packed $ 250 gift you could ever give
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: because you couldn't put that. You Financially, you could not
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: put it together and do it for that price. And
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: yet we're able to do that, including the live goat,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: for every single slave that we liberate.
• 27:44
  Speaker 13: 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 1: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 2: All right, 888-342-1010, thatkevinshow.com. Click the banner at the top
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of the page, or you can just type in bringherhome.org.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Any of those places will get you to the same spot,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: which is where you can give a gift to liberate
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: a human life and set them free. And I want
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: to say thank you to my New York tri-state audience today.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: They're representing big time. Michael in Clifton, New Jersey said
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Garden State's in. David in Brooklyn, New York said, we've
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: got a slave taken care of for the David B family.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: And then I want to say thank you to Robert
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: in Cardiff, California. He said, we're convicted. We want to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: help four slaves be liberated. Robert, thank you for your generosity.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: It does not go without being noticed. And we are
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: so grateful. Todd Chapman.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Thank you for being a part of it.
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  Speaker 8: And, you know, it's just, One of the most unique
• 29:11
  Speaker 8: and individually impactful ministries that you can be a part of.
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: There's a lot of great organizations that, Kevin, I know
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: you partner with throughout the year. They're doing great kingdom
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: work around the world, feeding kids, Bibles, all the different things,
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: all good stuff. But this one's really unique because you
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: give a gift that actually impacts one individual person in
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: such a profound way. Number one, freeing them from, in
• 29:34
  Speaker 8: many cases, nearly lifelong captivity and the beatings and the
• 29:38
  Speaker 8: abuse and everything that's come along with that. But also
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: then not just freeing them, but actually setting them up
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: to be successful in life in a new country and freedom,
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: their home country, actually. And as often as we can,
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: we reunite them with their family in their original community. Man,
• 29:54
  Speaker 8: what a beautiful picture of God's grace, his mercy, his deliverance.
• 29:59
  Speaker 8: And that's what we get to do. So it's pretty awesome.
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: Hope you'll be a part of it at whatever level
• 30:03
  Speaker 8: you can. And in our heart, Kevin, I'm sure I
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: speak for you in this. Yeah, we're telling you it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: $ 250 to do that. But we're not saying that if
• 30:12
  Speaker 8: you can't give $ 250, you can't take part because, you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: you give whatever you can. God will bring along someone
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: else and bring the balance of what you were not
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: able to do right now. And together you are freeing
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: a slave. But this is so intensely biblical as well.
• 30:28
  Speaker 8: You know, if you look at the Bible, I mean,
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: it's just one big rescue story, right? It's a rescue
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: story all throughout the Old Testament. And then that carries
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: into the New Testament when Jesus came and ultimately gave
• 30:39
  Speaker 8: his life so that all of us could be free.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: from our spiritual bondage, certainly. But that metaphor, that message
• 30:47
  Speaker 8: of freedom, that heart of freedom extends to physical captivity
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: as well. That's, you know, the Israelites coming out of
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: Egypt and all throughout that. This is God's character.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: It's his action. It's his assignment for his people.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: And that's why I think it's so important that we
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: respond and we take part in this. I'm looking at
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: a picture of a beautiful young lady named Anouk. And
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: when she was 20 years of age, she found herself
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: stepping into a world that was totally unfamiliar to her.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: It was actually a world called freedom, a place where
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: she was able to get up in the morning and
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: do as she wanted to do, not what as her
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: slave master dictated that she would do. And now she's
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: stepped into a world where she's, yeah, she's still doing
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: some agricultural work, but it's her little plot of land
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: that she's working and food that she gets to eat
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: rather than, you know, raising crops and harvesting crops for
• 31:40
  Speaker 8: a slave master and his family, and then maybe getting
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: nothing at the end of the day after all of
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: her days of toil. It's a situation where she can
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: talk to her neighbors without fear of reprisals, where she
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: can pray openly to the God she loves. 20 years
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: of age, she discovered that, but it had been 17
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: years of captivity. When as a little girl, she was
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: taken by marauders into the country to the north, and
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: all the abuse and And, you know, began all the
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: way up to sexual abuse. And she said that, you know,
• 32:12
  Speaker 8: there were many times I just wanted out so bad
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: that I thought, you know, I'll just escape.
• 32:17
  Speaker 9: But she said that I knew they had horses. I
• 32:19
  Speaker 9: knew that they had guns.
• 32:21
  Speaker 8: And I'd heard, you know, stories and seen other people
• 32:24
  Speaker 8: that had tried to escape beaten and abused and even killed.
• 32:28
  Speaker 8: So she said I knew that wasn't an option. But
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: thankfully she encountered, and this is so cool how God
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: just kind of creates these encounters, right? With our slave
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: retrievers at the market, at the well, maybe they'll be
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: tending the goats in a field. And one of our
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: slave retrievers who knows what to look for will come
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: up and say, I think I can help you if
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: you're open to that. And that's the way God leads
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: them into freedom. So Now she's in her home country
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: and building a whole new life thanks to your generosity. And,
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: you know, Kevin, she's actually one of the younger ones
• 32:59
  Speaker 8: at 20 years of age. You know, we've got so
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: many stories of women that are now in their 30s
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: and have been held captive for 30 plus years.
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: So, wow. Don't you want to end that? What an
• 33:13
  Speaker 9: awesome opportunity.
• 33:14
  Speaker 10: 888-342-1010.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: 888-342-1010. I often hear people complain. And say things like,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I wish there was something I could do about the
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: great injustices of the world. And I'll ask them, well,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: if you could do something that was tangible, what would
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: you do? Well, I want to take on racial violence
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: or violence against women or injustice or poverty or any
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: number of things. I'm like, you know, if you set
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: one slave free through CSI, you knock about eight of
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: those goals over at once.
• 33:47
  Speaker 9: Checked a lot of boxes.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Because these are women who were expressly enslaved because of
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: their faith and because of where they lived. So it
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: may not look like it's racial necessarily, but it's definitely demographic.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Mankind has been horrific to one another and there's more
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: slavery on the planet now than ever. Doing something along
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: these lines is a tangible way of saying, not on
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: my watch. Like there may be evil and it may
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: be going forward. But on my watch, I'm going to
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: set someone free. On my watch, I'm going to see
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to it that a woman is not further abused tonight.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: On my watch, I'm going to see to it that
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: she is given that bag of hope and that brand
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: new life. On my watch, she gets a community of
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: fellow women who have gone through similar things to what
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: she has done, and she gets a supportive community to
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: live in. On my watch, she gets to worship the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Jesus that she's only been allowed to think about and
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: worship in private and in secret. These last number of
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: years on my watch, that stuff ends. That's your opportunity, friend.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: If you if you're one of these people who wants
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: to make a difference and you say, oh, the world's
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: such a big place and so scary and so out
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: of control. What could we do? Bingo. Eight, eight, eight, three, four, two, ten, ten.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: I have the answer to that question. What could we do? Liberate,
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: liberate a life, set a captive free, bring a slave home.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: to her family and to her land. BringHerHome.org is the URL.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You can also just go to the show's website or
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: dial 888-342-1010.
• 35:27
  Speaker 9: 888-342-1010.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: What we can't do is now that we know about this,
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: is just sit here and let it rot. Can't do that.
• 35:33
  Speaker 9: We have to do something.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: If we see injustice, we are called to be a
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: difference maker. So let's do that.
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: 888-342-1010.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: 342-1010, 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: got a funny thing to end on. President Emmanuel Macron
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: had a bad day yesterday. So you had a bad day. Yeah,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: he had a bad day yesterday. And he lashed out
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: today at world leaders for making what he described as
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: stupid comments about the protest in his country. Listen to
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: what he said. There was foreign manipulation of information, which
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: led to unacceptable and even stupid comments by many, including
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: foreign leaders. Asked by a reporter if he was referring
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: to Trump, Macron replied, among others. He said, we saw
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: images generated by AI, which showed scenes that never took
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: place in France. We had people who explained that we
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: had been invaded by hordes of migrants and Islamists, which
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: is totally false. In these moments, you see who likes
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: France and who does not. All the people who speak
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: badly of us now do not like our country. He
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: reportedly added. No, they maybe just don't like your policies.
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Because I didn't see any AI photos. Everything I saw
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: was real. And there were a lot of fires burning.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: And there were a lot of buildings destroyed. I was
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: on Newsmax this week. And they did a report from
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: a reporter. They went live. What the damage that he reported.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: on live was real. I just think it's funny that
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Macron thinks that if you just bark at the press,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: the core that's following you, you're going to fix all
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: Stupid. The stupid comments of people from around the stupid, stupid.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: French people like to say stupid. He said people had
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: explained we've been invaded by hordes of migrants and Islamists.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: You have been.
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: President, I've been to Paris. I've been in the questionable
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: suburbs just outside the city limits. I saw with my
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: own eyes when I was there a massive protest march,
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: and that was 10 years ago. I didn't feel safe
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: on that particular night where we were. And it's only
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: gotten worse because you've only let more people in.
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Stupid.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: Americans are stupid.
• 40:19
  Speaker 9: Stupid people. I'm Emmanuel Macron.
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he changes his tune if Paris doesn't
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: stop burning before the end of the week. Kevin McCullough,
• 40:29
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• 41:13
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• 41:37
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• 41:43
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• 41:54
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• 42:01
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• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Welcome in. Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It is the Wednesday edition, so in this hour we
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: will take some time out to talk about some related
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: health issues that are important for you to be concentrating on,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: thinking about, particularly as you're trying to take care of
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: your family in the next year. It's interesting as we
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: get to this period of the cycle, though, and I've
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: been saying for a number of weeks that that I
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: didn't have a strong, I wasn't, I wasn't starting to
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: feel a definitive kind of move one way or the
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: other in terms of how the election was proceeding. All
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: of the indicators of a, of a period of time,
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: like we are in the midst of currently would seem
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: to favor the party that is not in power. You know, um,
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: dissatisfaction with the president, dissatisfaction with a war that's going on,
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: gas prices being higher than people want them to be,
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: and so forth. That would all normally just doom whoever
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: is in office. And President Trump's polling numbers are also
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: reflective of a party that would be in trouble. 35
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: to 38% in most polls right now. Lowest he's been,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: dropping below 40, etc. So, That has been weighing on me.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: I've also been watching as the Democrats continue to put
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: forward just crazy person after crazy person in a lot
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: of their races. And I'm like, you don't really want
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: that to be the face of the party. So I
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: think there's some legitimate pushback against their strategy in terms
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: of if it makes sense or not. When you have.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: General cultural anxiety and kind of a wringing of the
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: hand saying, well, you know, what should we do? Like
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: you want to you want to be able to seize
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: on that and say, hey, look at our economic plan.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: We're going to lower the taxes and lower the cost
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: of living. And here's how we're going to do it.
• 44:20
  Speaker 13: Bam.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: You want to be able to produce that in a
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: moment when the public has a degree of, you know,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: malaise or anxiety setting in. But these Democrats haven't done that.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: look at what you have. You have a leading democratic
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: congressional personality in Elon Omar, who is literally hiding for
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: her life. She only comes out on videos that she
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: shoots while, while driving in a car from one place
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: to the next, but she's not been seen since the
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: raid on her home. You've got, um, you, you've got
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: the El Sayeds and others that are, that are, you know,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: making kissy face with, um, Hassan Piker and really, truly
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: dangerous extremists that are just, you know, not acceptable in
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: the American discussion. Like they're just because they're so extreme
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: and they're so dangerous and they're so out of the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: out of out of the understanding of what everyday Americans
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: are dealing with. Yeah, he's mad. He's a socialist. He
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: wants to he wants to be, you know, the socialist guy.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: He reminds me actually a lot of Hitler. He's, you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: I'm the mad general. I'm going to do the mad corporal.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: He was only a corporal. He's a mad corporal. But
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: he's talking like, you know, well, when Tallarico kicks Kim
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Paxton's backside, you know, we're going to say we own him,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: which he said that out loud. So you've got kind
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: of like the extremist kind of crazy section going on there.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: And then you read things like this story. So kind
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: of my third Democrats up in arms after a so-called
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: polling firm that projected far-left candidates as strong contenders admitted
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that it fabricated its polling data. Wedgwood Polling, which billed
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: itself as an election survey company, released a statement Tuesday night,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: last night, admitting it used fabricated numbers for an experimental
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: project to demonstrate the vulnerabilities, lack of oversight, and overall
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: low barrier to entry in the modern political polling industry. Blah, blah, blah.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: they lied got caught red-handed and now they're trying to
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: come up with some sort of excuse as to why
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: they lied. The group's polls were cited by Abdul El-Sayed's
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: campaign amid a high-profile primary race against Michigan State Senator
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Mallory McCarrow and U.S.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Rep.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Haley Stevens. The nonpartisan polling aggregator political polls also cited
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood in the Wisconsin gubernatorial race that showed Francesca Hong
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: having an edge over Republican candidate Tom Tiffany. McMorrow and
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood's numbers led her donations to dry up and reporters
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: having hounded her with calls to drop out of the race.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Unlike El-Sayed, who advanced in the Michigan Democratic primary, Hong
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: lost Wisconsin's Democratic gubernatorial primary to the establishment-backed candidate. Wedgwood's
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: numbers were cited by high-profile outlets like the New York Times, CNN,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: It removed 15 polls released by Wedgwood yesterday between June
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: and October after it admitted to fabricating the data. So
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: here's how bad the lying problem for the Democrats is.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: They lie about what the current situation is. They lie
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: about the cause of those problems. They lie when they
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: tell you that there are solutions to them that include
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: socialism and Marxism and Islamism and all the isms. And internally,
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: they lie to each other about what the numbers actually say.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: And this is why you had in 2024, an underreporting
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: of support that the president took home remarkably on election night.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: That's why in 2020, you had an underreporting of Democratic turnout.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: That's why in 2022, you had an underreporting of Republicans
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: where they came back and took back the House. So
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: you've got a bunch of really low character, low ability,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: low IQ, low integrity operations going on. on the democratic
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: side of the equation. So take the malaise of, I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: wish gas prices were lower and I wish we didn't
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: have to deal with Iran right now. And maybe the
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: president's a little mean on one side, but pit that
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: against Islamic terrorists, financial goobers, and people that don't really
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: have any respect for the country at all. Like Ilhan
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: Omar who's just hiding the whole time. And I'm not sure.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I'm not certain anymore that the Republicans are necessarily in trouble.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: And you know who agrees with me is the current
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Senate leader for the Republicans, John Thune. He's been out
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: on the campaign trail. He's crisscrossed the country. And he's
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: saying he does not expect Republicans to lose control of
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: the Senate on election night. I don't think Maine is
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: ready to kick Susan Collins out, and especially not for
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: a Nazi. I don't think Texas is ready to put
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: a senator in the Senate who says, who walks around
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: saying how much he loves trans kids, how he wants
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: to jail parents who won't let their children be medically
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: or surgically transitioned as minors. That's what James Tallarico wants.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: He wants parents to be put in jail if they
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: don't allow their minors to be transitioned. Not to mention
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: anything related to the science. How the transitioning does nothing
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: to advance the child's health. Nothing. I just think that
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: you've got an interesting election night shaping up. And I'm
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: not putting money on the Democrats walking away with anything
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: right now. Kevin McCullough, very glad to have you with us.
• 50:37
  Speaker 13: Stay here.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's That Kevin Show. Thatkevinshow.com is where you go.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: And I, oddly enough, am the aforementioned That Kevin. That's
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: just the way it works. One of the people that
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: you know I love bragging about all the time is
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: a guy who said that I could give his personal
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: cell phone number out to the world, which nobody's ever
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: given me permission to do that before, which says something
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: about the level of trust, I guess, that Vic Pritchard
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: has with one Kevin McCullough. But He rejoins us. Vic
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: is the founder and CEO of DFW Direct Insurance. You
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: hear me raving every single day about what Vic and
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: his team were able to do for us by way
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: of helping us save money on our health insurance costs.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And Vic, you called me a couple of weeks ago
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: and you said, hey, Cal, I just want you to
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: know about something. This time of year, there's a lot
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: of people looking for alternatives because you've got a couple
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: of things going on. You've got a Medicare open enrollment
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: or enrollment window where people can change plans and so forth.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: And then you've also got the Affordable Care Act window,
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: which the more that I find out about the ACA
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: and what we were promised and how it was going
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: to be the cornucopia of, you know, all things good
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: for health care, it sure hasn't worked out that way,
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: has it? Not at all, Kevin.
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: The Affordable Care Act is the ever-increasing premium, ever-narrowing network
• 52:35
  Speaker 5: of providers, ever-increasing deductible and max-out-of-pocket perpetual cycle year after year.
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: And the main cost drivers, as you probably know, is
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: that those plans are not allowed.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: To medically underwrite applicants and have to cover.
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: Things that people may not even want or need, like
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: maternity care or real expensive $ 3, 000 a month. Prescription drugs.
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: And so that's where we love rolling up our sleeves
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: and helping people to scour through dozens of other off
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: exchange plans that could save them up to 50 percent.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the part that I that I tell everybody
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: all the time, because for us personally, as a family,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: we weren't. Well, we were in an ACA compatible plan
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: because I guess the medical sharing type of plans that
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: are out there where you pull the costs and then
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the group says they're going to share them with you.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: That was what we were on. And when we first
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: switched to that, because I had had an employer for
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: a brief period of time that gave us gold standard
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: health care. I had the best plan. It was really good.
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: It covered everything. But then I wasn't with them anymore.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: We had to switch plans. And when I started paying
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: out of pocket, the medical cost sharing plan was what
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: we could afford. And at first, it seemed pretty good.
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible. But about five years in, even that
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: plan got insane. And we were paying... The amount we
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: were paying was more than double where we had started
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: per month on our premium for a family of five that, again,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: we're not going to have any more kids, but we
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: were paying for maternity benefits and those types of things.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: My kids do have needs that they're going to have
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: coming into the stages of life they are as teenagers
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: and high school kids and so forth. And so it
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: was like we were just badly matched. And paying twice
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: as much as when we started, I come to you
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: and I say, Vic, help me, please. I basically was.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: I was like, I was so dreadfully broken at that moment.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: And you were like, Kev, hold on a second. We
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: can take a look at this. And you ended up
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: saving us $ 400 a month, $ 5, 000 on the year. And
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: then I started getting rebate checks. When my family would
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: go to the doctor, all of our doctors are in network.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: So we get a discount for being in network. The
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: insurance company pays the bill, but they pay a preset fee.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And if it's more than what the in-network doctor costs,
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: that's money that comes back to me in my pocket. And, Vic,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: that's not normal. Normally, insurance companies would just pocket those savings,
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: wouldn't they? They sure would, yeah.
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: The type of plan that we used in your family's case, Kevin,
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: is called a defined benefit plan. So there's never, shockingly,
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: any deductible either inpatient or outpatient, and they're paying on
• 55:13
  Speaker 5: a fixed benefit schedule. A lot of these plans pay,
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: in some cases, more than a typical doctor or urgent
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: care center or mammogram plan.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: Facility would bill.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: And so that's where we're able to just help people
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: by doing a quick needs assessment and making sure that
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: they're getting the benefits that they need. And again, not
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: paying for benefits they would never use. And so a
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: person that goes to the doctor every week all year
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: long might need a different plan than someone that goes
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: once a year for a checkup.
• 55:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that as it relates to the
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: ACA issue first. The Affordable Care Act, which does not
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: live up to its name in any way, has required
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: that at this time of year, each year, that if
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: you don't have anything else, you're allowed to enroll in
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: the government plan. How has that worked? What's it telling
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: us about how effective it is? What's the likelihood that
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: they're going to be able to save any more money
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: in an ACA plan for 2027 than they may have
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: spent in 2026? Just give us the lay of the
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: land on that.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so the open enrollment period, Kevin, is created to
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: where they want people that are in good health to
• 56:19
  Speaker 5: be on these plans.
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: All year long.
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: They need a large block of healthy insurance to offset
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: the 1% most costly people that those plans can't turn
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: down coming into the plan that cost everyone more money.
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: And so the average premium increase for 2027 is supposed
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: to be about 14%. Coupled with the elimination of the
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: extended premium subsidies that went away last year, a lot
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: of people will see double digit rate increases. And this
• 56:45
  Speaker 5: is a good time to shop not only what you
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: see on healthcare.gov or your state-based exchange, but the other 80%
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: of the plans that are not advertised on those websites.
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: And that's where we can get into a situation where
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: we can match people up with a plan that would
• 57:00
  Speaker 5: reward them for being in good health or for not
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: needing a ton of healthcare every year. So we've got
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: about 22 carriers to date, and we love helping people
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: to just go through those options, match them to the right.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Plan, And a lot of those options are like the
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: plan that you got us into. You can get them
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: into plans where there's no out-of-pocket costs. And with the
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: fixed benefit kind of predetermined, oftentimes on prescriptions, on doctor's visits,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: on other things, they save even more money with that
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: type of plan.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: So the plan format, the defined benefit plan is typically
• 57:42
  Speaker 5: the most cost effective. It's not for everyone, but for
• 57:45
  Speaker 5: your family, it's working great. We do have major medical
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: format plans. We have short-term medical for people that are
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: between jobs. We even have deductible eliminator plans. If someone's
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: happy with their employer plan, but they don't like their
• 57:59
  Speaker 5: high deductible, we can change that to basically a zero
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: deductible plan with a gap insurance plan. So we got
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: a little bit of something for everyone, but it depends
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: on a person's individual needs. And that's where we Have
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: about 17 years experience doing this, making sure that we've
• 58:15
  Speaker 5: got the right plan and people.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: Are happy with it. Well, I was going to say, well,
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: let me come back to that. Here's Vic's phone number.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: And he had to put it on silent before we
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: did the interview because you could call him like right
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: now and it would buzz him.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: 817-449-5557.
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: 817-449-5557.
• 58:27
  Speaker 5: 817-449-5557.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: We've been telling everybody, Vic, that we come into contact
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: with about this because it really has been such a
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: blessing to us. But you just mentioned something that was
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: real important. You've been doing this 17 years. The market
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: has changed how in those 17 years from your perspective?
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the main change, of course, came with the advent
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: of the Affordable Care Act. And so before that, pretty
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: much any plan could medically underwrite applicants.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Which was a two-edged sword.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Some unhealthy people wouldn't be able to necessarily get the
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: best plan.
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: At the best rate. But on the other hand, if
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: you were healthy, you could get a great deal.
• 59:16
  Speaker 5: So some of the unintended consequences of the ACA have
• 59:19
  Speaker 5: been deductibles, premiums, out-of-pockets have to go up every year
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: to face an increasingly unhealthy population of insurance that are
• 59:30
  Speaker 5: on those plans. And of course, the lowest income people
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: get some nice premium subsidies to help offset.
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: The cost from the government.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: But the narrowing of the networks from the better PPO
• 59:44
  Speaker 5: networks to the more limited HMO networks.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: Has a lot of people real frustrated.
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: Some people have to go across town to get the
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: primary care doctor they want, or they have to wait
• 59:54
  Speaker 5: three to four weeks to get into a referral to
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: get a specialist. And so We have all kinds of
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: off-exchange plans that are the good old-fashioned pre-Obamacare plans, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: those are the core of what our focus is for
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: most people.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got us into an insurance company that has
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: been around for 180 years. I was like, wow, I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: didn't even know that we'd had such a thing as
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: insurance for 180 years. I have not yet called Vic Pritchard.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: Right now, there's this entire window that's about to open
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: for the ACA. the Affordable Care Act plans, the enrollment window.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: You don't have to be in an enrollment window to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: save on your health insurance and to chart a better
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: way forward for you and your family. I tell you
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: this all the time. Nick, Vic and his team did
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: this for me and they saved us $ 400 a month.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: We got expanded coverage. We got better coverage than we
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: had before. And I even got a rebate check From
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: the last doctor's visit that my daughter went to. Because
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: in network and with our coverage that he got us,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: we get rebates back on going to the doctor. We
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: get paid to go to the doctor. Imagine that. And
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: while saving $ 400 a month. So really incredible. But you
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: need to call Vic right now because there is no
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: enrollment period for health insurance that Vic Pritchard has from
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: 20 different companies. So you may not even need the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: enrollment period for the ACA. to get the insurance that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: you need.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: 817-449-5557.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 10: 817-449-5557.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: 817-449-5557.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: Stay right there. It's Wellness Wednesday on That Kevin Show.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: We're coming right back. Stick around for more of That Kevin.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 10: Welcome back, it's Kevin McCullough.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Very glad to have you with us. Vic Pritchard is
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: my guest. He is also a tremendous partner of this show.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 5: 817-449-5557, 817-449-5557.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: Vick, are my people, are they polite to you when
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: they call? Because I'm telling them, I'm giving them your
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: cell number, and I hope that they're just being as
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: kind and as polite as they possibly can be.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 9: Absolutely.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: I think that they're glad to have a recommendation from
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: someone like Kevin McCullough to solve their health care needs,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 5: whether it's under age 65 insurance or Medicare supplements. We've
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: been introducing wonderful people, and it's always a great conversation.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 9: Excellent.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: Well, and I want to keep helping people find the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: help that they need. Let's talk about the Medicare bill.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: situation for a second. Now, this is kind of a
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: limited window for kind of like a specialized portion of Medicare.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: It is, yeah.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: So, the October 15th through December 7th is the annual
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: enrollment period for the all-in-one managed Medicare Advantage plans, not
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: to be confused with the Medicare supplement. And on that front,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: we've got a couple of carriers that are completely pulling
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: out of the business this year. And so, a lot
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: of your Listeners will probably have disruptions where they're getting
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: notices saying, hey, your plan's ending.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: You need to shop other carriers.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 5: And so that's where we need companies just going out
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: of business in that in that market segment, because this
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: is very tough for them to be profitable. Yeah, they're
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: basically taking over your government, Medicare, private companies running that.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: And with the premiums, there can be as low as zero.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: But with that, the you know, they have to make
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: that up with higher deductibles, higher max out of pockets,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: more limited networks. We've got a lot of people that
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: actually don't like the environment that we can take back
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 5: to original government Medicare and have a true Medicare supplement.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: Then there are no network restrictions and the max out
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: of pockets less than 300 a year.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: Explain how that works, because I think that there's there's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: there's a lot around Medicare that seems very confusing. I'm
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: not quite in that category yet. Thank goodness. but I
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: will be before long. And so if people are maybe
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: navigating this for the first time, what's the most important
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: thing to be thinking about their Medicare alternatives? Yeah, probably
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: the three.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 5: Biggest considerations for most folks, Kevin, would be a premium
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: that fits their monthly budget. Does the plan allow me
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 5: to use the doctors, labs, and hospitals of my choice?
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 5: And then, you know, what's the... max out-of-pocket exposure, right?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: If someone might be healthy today, but might have their
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 5: gallbladder go out next week, or might have a cancer
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: diagnosis next year. So, a lot of these all-in-one Medicare
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Advantage plans have a $ 5, 000 to.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: $ 6, 000.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 5: Max out-of-pocket every year, whereas a true Medicare supplement might
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 5: be as little as $ 290 max out-of-pocket for the year.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 9: But with the.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: Supplement, there is a premium that we have to factor in,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 5: in addition to what the government charges people for Part
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: B of Medicare. So we can help people to kind
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: of sort that out, balance the cost versus risk versus benefits,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: and hopefully get that right balance. But without someone to
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 5: guide you through that process, it can be pretty daunting.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Well, and I was going to say, you've actually told customers,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: if you can't help them, you just say, you know,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: but doing the needs analysis is what gives them the
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: ability to have the confidence. But you go through everything
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: they're doing And if they're doing the very best that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: they already can do, you just say to them, you're great.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: We can't do anything better than that. But with 22
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: different companies at your disposal to go shop like unique
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: options on, like there's really no one that you kind
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: of can't help. And this is what I want people
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: to know about Vic. He's not doing it just to
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: convert you to a different company. Like his desire is
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: to actually help you make sure you're getting the right
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: coverage for the best price possible and making sure that
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: it matches what your lifestyle is. That's what I love
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: about your approach, Vic, and how much time you take
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: with each. Because when we first talked, I think we
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: talked for about an hour and 15 minutes and you
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: were kind of getting into detail. Like what do you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: really need when it comes to the kids and to
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: my bride and everything else? And it was getting into
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: the weeds on all of that that really helped you
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: come up with the right plan for us.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 9: Absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: And some of your listeners that might be 70 plus
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: years old that have been on Medicare specifically for five
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 5: or more years, that's five, six, seven, eight years of
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: rate increases. A lot of people, Kevin, don't know that
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 5: with a true Medicare supplement, you can actually switch to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: any other carrier at any time of year. The catch
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: is there's a little medical underwriting. So if someone's in
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: reasonably good health. I've helped a couple of people in
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 5: their 70s to save over $ 100 a month for the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: exact same Plan G Medicare supplement by just kind of
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: reshopping that. If they're happy where they're at, of course,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 5: we want them to stay exactly where they're at. But
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: all the Medicare supplements are standardized, so there's no difference
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 5: at all between carrier A, B, or C if you
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: have the same Plan G supplement. So we help people year-round,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 5: but there's a heightened awareness, of course, during the annual
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: open enrollment period, and that's where we can jump in
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: and help people make timely decisions that get the right
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 5: plan at the right price.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want to sit on this, friends.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: You want to take action and be proactive about planning
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: for what you've got ahead in the next year. Do
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: you want to overpay for your health care? That's like
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: a bottom line. Do you want to overpay? Then don't
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: do anything. Do you want to try to save money
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: and be smart? Call Vic. Here's his personal cell number, 817-449-5557, 817-449-5557.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Vic Pritchard, always appreciate how much help you're trying to
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: bring my audience and you've brought to my family personally.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm indebted to you for that alone, but
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: the fact that you're a great partner to the show,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: I'm also equally proud of. Thank you for being here.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 7: Thanks, Kevin.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: It's been a real blessing.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 9: You got it.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 13: 817-449-5557, 817-449-5557, 817-449-5557.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Call and speak with Vic Pritchard directly and tell him
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: that Kevin sent you when you do.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: 817-449-5557.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 12: 817-449-5557.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough coming right back from New York.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: Don't go anywhere.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Here he is from New York, that Kevin. Kevin. McCullough.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Welcome back, Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: That Kevin Show is the website for all things related
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: to what we do. I have some interesting news. We
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: are right now two slaves being liberated from hitting the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: first 10% of our goal. We need 23 to get
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: to 230 at 10%, and we've freed 21. here in
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: just a couple of days getting this thing kicked off.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: So thank you for all of that, for all of
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: you that have already given. And I want to say
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: thank you especially to Samuel from Auburn, Washington, who said
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: for whatever reason God moved him to, that he wanted
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: to give a gift that liberated quite a few slaves, actually.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: And I just, when people are extra generous, it is
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: always something that is very, to me, very... moving because,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: you know, we, we ask you, would you consider liberating
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: one slave? Well, he, he did seven. And so thank
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: you so much, Samuel. And those of you listening in Auburn,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: Washington for being that generous and friend, maybe you can't
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: do that. That was an $ 1, 800 gift. Maybe you can
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: only do $ 250 and set one life free, or maybe
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: you need to do a $ 65 gift like Edward did from,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: from Philadelphia that, you know, when you combine that with
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: a few others that come in, you're going to piece
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: together enough to get one more slave liberated. So thank you.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: Whatever the amount of generosity that you're able to do,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: God will take it and use it and multiply it
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: and make it be bigger and more than what you
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: could think it could be. We've had gifts come in
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: as small as $ 5. Friends, that's another step towards another
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: life being liberated. If you have several of them do that,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: then you've got another life set free. And for me,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: that is the best. Get as many of them liberated
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: as possible. Todd Chapman is back with us. He's evidently
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: just returned from walking his Fido. But Todd. Yeah.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: Well, you know what?
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: What's your dog's name?
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 9: His name is Finn.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Finn was agreeing with me. He was giving the shout out.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: He was like, yeah, do what the guy says.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 9: Exactly.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 9: Sorry about that.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: No, no worries. So for people that have just joined
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: us for the first time, because we constantly have new
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: people joining in, take us behind the scenes. Help us
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: to understand the story of a slave that has been
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: set free.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so I'm looking at a picture of a book.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 8: She was 29 years of age when she was liberated.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: That's been a few years now. But she was taken
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: captive when she was five years of age, like so
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: many other people that have been enslaved. back in the
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: days of the Sudanese Civil War, as my kids would say,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 8: in the last century. But anyway, her story, very similar
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: to those that we've heard from other people. As soon
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: as she was able to, even at five years of age,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: they figured out a way to put her to work.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 8: It's like, look, you're five, kid. You can do something.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 8: You can work in the fields. You can end the
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: older she got, the worse it got in terms of
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: heavier labor, carrying water, things like that. doing a lot
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: of housework, washing dishes, which in and of itself, okay,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 8: you know, that's, that's okay. So, you know, you're a slave,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: you're going to do some physical labor. It's the other
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: things that come with that, the abuse, the beatings, the
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 8: verbal abuse. And ultimately when she got old enough, the
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 8: sexual abuse began, the raping, the genital mutilation, female genital
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 8: mutilation that they so often enforce upon these slaves. And
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 8: so she didn't, that, uh, of course, all of that
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: against her will worked for many, many years ends up
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: being given from her initial slave master to someone else.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 9: And then again, she.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: Was given to a third slave master, all this before she's,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 8: you know, about 20 years or about 20, about mid twenties.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, can you imagine just incredible? Uh, and then
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: she ends up in it with her third master. She
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 8: ends up having two children, uh, and, um, She ended
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 8: up having an encounter with one of her slave retrievers.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 8: And she said, yes, I will go with you. But
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 8: she was forced to leave one of her children behind.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 8: We've heard a lot of those stories where, you know,
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 8: thankfully able to bring one child. Because for many years, Kevin,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 8: when we liberated these slaves, you know, and they had kids,
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 8: that wasn't an option. The slave masters were like, you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 8: can take her, but you're leaving the kids. I'm not
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 8: letting the kids go. In more recent years, we've had
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: some success in negotiating the release of some of the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: children as well, particularly if they're younger. So one child
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 8: left behind, she's grateful to God to be alive, to
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 8: be back in South Sudan free with one of her kids.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 8: But you can imagine she's praying that God will deliver
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 8: her other child. And we hear that a lot from
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 8: these slaves as we talk to them and we capture
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  Speaker 8: their story and We piece together as many of the
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  Speaker 8: details of their life as they can remember. And, you know,
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  Speaker 8: we try to reunite them with their family. But without exception,
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  Speaker 8: every one of them will say whether it's family they
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  Speaker 8: have left behind, children or maybe another relative or just
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  Speaker 8: other slaves. They're so grateful. They're like, please don't stop
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  Speaker 8: freeing slaves. And I just want to say we haven't
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  Speaker 8: talked about this in our last couple of segments, but
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  Speaker 8: I just wanted to quantify this. the collective impact that
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  Speaker 8: American Christians have had through CSI. At one point in time,
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  Speaker 8: it's estimated there were probably more than 200,000 slaves taken.
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  Speaker 8: Over the last 30 years, CSI, thanks to generosity of
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  Speaker 8: people just like you, has managed to free 160,000-ish. And
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  Speaker 8: every year that number goes up a We're making a
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  Speaker 8: big dent in this.
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  Speaker 9: It takes some time.
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  Speaker 8: But boy, you know, we talk about the individual, and
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  Speaker 8: that's the most important thing. You can free one human being.
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  Speaker 8: But collectively, Kevin, we have done so much good together
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  Speaker 8: as the body of Christ. And so we wholeheartedly invite
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  Speaker 8: you in.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful for that. 888-342-1010, 888-342-1010. I'm grateful
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  Speaker 2: because over the last 10 years that I've had a
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  Speaker 2: chance to be part of the operation and the program,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen 3,800 people. Plus slaves just from my audience.
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  Speaker 2: Just that's that's a small village. That's that's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people. Thirty eight hundred people being given a brand
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  Speaker 2: new lease and start on life. And for those of
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  Speaker 2: you that have given over the years, thank you.
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  Speaker 8: You know, there's a there's a passage of scripture and
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  Speaker 8: I can't tell you exactly where it is, but basically
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  Speaker 8: it says paraphrasing here. Once I have, you know, once
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  Speaker 8: I become aware, once we become aware of a need
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  Speaker 8: and we don't do anything.
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  Speaker 9: About it, we're accountable for that knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 8: And there was actually a worship song from Bruce Ligard,
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  Speaker 8: I think, that says, now that I have seen eyes
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  Speaker 8: that have seen in the ears that.
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  Speaker 9: Have heard that they're a gift from God.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 8: And so I think that's, it's sobering on the one hand,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 8: it's a bit heavy, but on the other hand, it's
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 8: so beautiful. Because now that you know a lot, you
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: probably didn't know about this until we started talking about it.
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  Speaker 8: But now that you know, what will you do with
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  Speaker 8: that information? What will you allow God to do through
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  Speaker 8: you to liberate one of these precious human beings?
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  Speaker 3: No doubt. 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for doing it.
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  Speaker 1: 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 11: 888-342-1010.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you want to give online, you just go
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: to bringherhome.org. Or if you're already on my website at thatkevinshow.com,
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  Speaker 2: you just click the CSI banner. But it's super easy
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  Speaker 2: to get to, 888-342-1010. Stick around for more of That Kevin, next.
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  Speaker 10: Serving it up.
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  Speaker 2: I got a funny thing to end on. Um, president
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  Speaker 2: Emmanuel Macron, um, Had a bad day yesterday. So you
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: had a bad day. Yeah, he had a bad day yesterday.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: And he lashed out today at world leaders for making
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: what he described as stupid comments about the protest in
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: his country. Listen to what he said. There was foreign
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: manipulation of information, which led to unacceptable and even stupid
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: comments by many, including foreign leaders. Asked by a reporter
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: if he was referring to Trump, Macron replied, among others.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: He said, we saw images generated by AI, which showed
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: scenes that never took place in France. We had people
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 2: who explained that we had been invaded by hordes of
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: migrants and Islamists, which is totally false. In these moments,
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: you see who likes France and who does not. All
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: the people who speak badly of us now do not
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 2: like our country, he reportedly added. No, they maybe just
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: don't like your policies. Because I didn't see any AI photos.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Everything I saw was real. And there were a lot
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: of fires burning. And there were a lot of buildings destroyed.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 2: I was on Newsmax this week. And they did a
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: report from a reporter. They went live. What the damage
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: that he reported on live was real. I just think
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: it's funny that McCrone thinks that if you just bark
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: at the press, the core that's following you, you're going
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 2: to fix all of it.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Stupid. The stupid comments of people from around the stupid
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: French people like to say stupid. He said people had
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: explained we've been invaded by hordes of migrants and Islamists.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: You have been.
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  Speaker 5: Mr.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: President, I've been to Paris. I've been in the questionable
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 2: suburbs just outside the city limits. I saw with my
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 2: own eyes when I was there a massive protest march,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: and that was 10 years ago. I didn't feel safe
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: on that particular night where we were. And it's only
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: gotten worse because you've only let more people in.
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 6: Stupid. Americans are stupid. Stupid people.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 9: I'm Emmanuel Macron.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: We'll see if he changes his tune if Paris doesn't
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: stop burning before the end of the week. Kevin McCullough,
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  Speaker 2: very glad to have you with us. Thank you for
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: being here. Please tell your friends and get the podcast
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