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The Bizarre Tale of Jake the Alligator Man · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away, but his museum is still in the family.
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And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too, because his likeness is carved
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on his headstone.
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Oh my god!
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To which his granddaughter says, "Well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, 'What the hell
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is that?'" and quote.
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I don't think I need to wait 100 years. I feel as though my default reaction is, 'What
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the hell is that?'
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Hi, Caitlyn.
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[BEEP]
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[LAUGHTER]
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I was like, "That would be ready to start."
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I know, and I was like, "I thought I was," and then that just snuck out of there.
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Hi, Cassie.
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Was it from the Cortado?
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Probably.
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Coffee makes me really burpy.
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Cortado cult.
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Can we please do like a bleep button on the burp?
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I love you so funny.
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Well, this is PNW, Hanson Homicides, where we chat about true crime, the paranormal, and
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all things spooky in the Pacific Northwest.
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Or the PNW.
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If you're in a nasty.
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And hi, creepy people. We know you're nasty. I think we forgot to say hi to you after we
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said hi to each other.
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And there's a burp situation.
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Uh-oh.
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Yeah.
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But we hope you stick around for the end because we're going to do a little tarot for a little
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deeper insight into our topic, which we do in every episode.
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Yeah.
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Well, before we start today, I did want to mention something.
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I think we kind of chatted about it last night.
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But Morbid, covered crater lake.
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Oh, yes, yes.
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Okay.
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I remember this.
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Yeah.
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And I just, I thought it was interesting to bring up because I, I almost like didn't listen
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to it because I was like, oh, you know, obviously I've researched like the shit out of it.
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I know every detail of the story.
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Like, I've heard it a million times, you know.
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Yeah.
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So it's like, oh, me.
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I'll just skip that one.
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But I was like, no, I'm going to listen to it because like, I love the spooky episodes.
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Obviously.
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Yeah.
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And it's just, it's so different.
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And like, everyone has their own like different take on things and different commentary.
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And so I just thought it was interesting to bring up like even if you heard a topic a million
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times, like everyone does it completely differently.
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I agree.
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I mean, I think people just have their own personalities.
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Yeah.
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Their own takes.
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They do?
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So, I mean, some people like, we're not all those copies of each other.
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Carbon copies.
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But yeah, it was really funny, really entertaining for me still.
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And yeah, so I thought I'd bring it up.
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Excellent.
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And I, oh, the other reason is that's kind of like why we, one of the reasons we started
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a PNW podcast because I would always get excited when other pods would talk about our,
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our, our, our neck of the woods, you know.
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So it's still exciting when they do.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They know about us.
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Well, today we are going to be talking about a topic from the PNW.
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That we're old.
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We're going to Long Beach, Washington.
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Oh.
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That's a long beach.
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Is about three hours southwest of Seattle on the Washington coast.
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Population, 1756 as of 2023.
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Really?
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That's it.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like a small, you know, beach town.
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Yeah.
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I've been there that just seems really small.
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Yeah.
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It's pretty small.
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I'm sure it's like full of tourists though, you know.
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That, yeah, that's it.
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It's like, seem bigger.
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Popular for its boardwalk, drive on beach and the Washington State International Kite
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Festival.
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Through.
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And the archway declaring the world's longest beach.
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Hmm.
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Which is actually true.
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I was going to ask.
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Although it's technically the world's longest beach on a peninsula.
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Oh.
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It's at, it's 28 miles long.
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And if you're wondering like me, what the longest beach of the world is, it is.
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And I can't roll my R, so I apologize.
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Praya Do Cassino and Brazil.
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Brazil.
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Praya.
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150 miles long.
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Oh, wow.
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Okay.
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It's so much longer.
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Yeah.
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I just rolled my R's pretty good.
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I don't know.
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That sounds fun.
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I want to go to there.
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Can we go?
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Can we go to Brazil?
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The quad trip.
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Yeah.
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Why not?
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The subject of our topic today has been dubbed the Crowned Jewel.
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Another crowned jewel is something.
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All right.
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Of a place called Marsh's Free Museum.
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Hmm.
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Where, quote, lies a collection as a wonderous as it is bizarre.
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Okay.
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And quote.
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Sounds about right for you.
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Probably.
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It really actually reminds me of the museum of the weird that we went to in Austin.
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Oh, really?
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Yeah.
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It's, that was cool.
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Pretty similar to that.
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Okay.
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Full of oddities and taxidermy and like the two headed calf, a one-eyed lamb, an eight-legged
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lamb or spider lamb.
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If you're nasty.
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Wow.
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That is nasty.
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I don't know.
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I just called it spider lamb because like eight legs.
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Well, yeah.
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I mean, that makes sense.
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I don't know if anyone else calls it that.
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They should.
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They should.
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I made up a new thing.
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They have things like shrunken heads, human skeletons and antiques, like a roulette wheel from
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the Alaskan Gold Rush.
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Oh.
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And I am like, I don't know what's wrong with my brain.
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I kept reading it as Russian roulette wheel.
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Oh.
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And I was like, they had just like a wheel of guns.
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Like, what?
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Like the gold rush was like, what does a Russian roulette wheel?
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The gold rush.
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Right.
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It's a gold rush.
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Like that's just brutal.
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I'll tell you.
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So I read it like 10 times and I was like, oh my god, it literally just says roulette wheel.
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Like, I'm so dumb.
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Your brain really wanted to take that to the next level.
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They were just gambling.
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They weren't shooting.
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Well, they might have been shooting.
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I mean, there was probably some of that too.
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There could have been wheel of guns.
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Who knows?
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Who knows what was going on in that gold rush?
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I mean, the Wild West.
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Am I right?
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There's antique arcade games where you can get a fortune or measure the intensity of your
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romantic passions.
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Ooh.
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And I do have a photo.
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Test your passion.
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Passion.
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Test your passion, factor, chair.
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Oh, okay, say that.
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Literally ever again.
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Test your passion, factor, chair.
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I have a chair.
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I have a chair.
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Oh.
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Do you notice anything weird about this, chair?
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The slit right there in the middle of the seat.
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Why is there a hole in the seat?
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Y'all.
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I don't know how I feel about that, but I don't think it's positive.
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Isn't that weird?
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I assume it's just from people sitting on it through time, but it seems kind of weird that
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it's like a test your passion, chair, and there's a fucking hole in it.
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You know what that reminds me of?
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The glory hole?
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It's always sunny.
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Oh.
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The exercise bike that Mack makes.
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Oh, my God.
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We need you to describe it to us.
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No, I'm going to need someone to get a YouTube clip of, oh, yeah, I need YouTube clip.
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There are no words.
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You just have to have visual already.
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Moving on from the glory hole chair.
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On November 9, 1993, the headline on the front page of the weekly world news was, quote,
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half human, half alligator discovered in Florida swamp.
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Okay.
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Exclamation point.
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I mean, the location at least makes sense.
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Right.
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That's all I got.
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I'll show you the photo.
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That looks totally real.
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Yeah, it's interesting, right?
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Uh-huh.
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So the article claims this is, quote, "man's missing link, a grotesque hissing creature
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with the head and upper body of a human and the dragon-like lower body of an alligator."
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That's good.
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Has been captured alive just miles from here in the big cypress swamp end quote.
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Okay.
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So I thought it was funny that they like said, dragon-like lower body of an alligator.
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Yeah.
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Just say alligator.
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Just say alligator because dragons aren't real.
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Yeah, I agree that that also struck me as odd.
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I'm like, you could have just said alligator.
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Just leave it at alligator.
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If the word you're looking for is alligator, well, there it is.
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There it is.
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Just use that one.
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The article goes on to say, quote, "Of course, an intense search is underway to locate
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any other gator man creatures."
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End quote.
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Of course.
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Or a hunt them down.
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For the years, there was several other articles on this same gator man from the Florida swamp.
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I'm going to read you some of them.
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Oh boy.
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Half alligator, half human kills Miami man and escapes from laboratory.
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Laboratory.
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It's alive.
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Yeah.
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That's exactly what I was thinking.
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Well, that's one of the, that's one of the, oh, okay.
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It's alive.
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Yeah.
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It's alive.
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Half human, half alligator captured in Florida everglades.
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And then, last but not least, half alligator, half human gives birth.
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Oh, okay.
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They claim he had a little baby alligator man.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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The bottom half is alligator.
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So to me, you don't, they don't, they don't give birth.
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They lay eggs.
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You know, so I am not going to try to analyze the mysteries of nature here.
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Okay.
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I was going to say maybe that's the wrong thread to pull that.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Nature is miraculous.
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All right.
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Out there just wild and, but this is not just any old half human, half alligator.
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No, this is none other than Jake, the alligator man.
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Okay.
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The crowned jewel of Marsh's free museum.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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All right.
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The picture used for these stories was actually stolen from a souvenir postcard sold
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at the museum.
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Oh.
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Okay.
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Which they've now sold over 30,000 by the way.
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Oh, yeah, I bet.
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But it did put Jake on the map as one of the founding fathers of Freaks right up there
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with the Fiji mermaid.
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Great.
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Love that.
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Yeah.
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Have you seen the Fiji mermaid?
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I think so.
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I've heard of it.
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I don't know if I've actually ever seen the original.
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Oh.
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Alrighty.
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It's very convincing.
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I'm just going to play with these wires to comfort myself because I forgot my rock.
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So this is Jake, the alligator man at Marcia's free museum in his enclosure.
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And I'll show you more pictures later.
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I can't wait.
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There's so many pictures.
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Hopefully.
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Besides the kind of obvious fact that he is a mummified, a seemingly mummified, half-man,
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half-alligator, not much is known about how Jake came to be in this state.
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You don't say.
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Yeah.
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Not like the state of Washington, but just like his state of being, you know, existence.
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Yeah.
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How did Jake come into this world?
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No one really knows.
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His life prior to being purchased in 1962 to be a feature of the Marsh's unique collection
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remains a mystery, which seems to be part of Jake's allure.
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Sure.
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It's very mysterious man.
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We all like a mysterious man, right?
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A man of mystery.
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But naturally, people have their theories and stories.
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Sort of a chicken or the alligator, chicken or the egg.
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The dinosaur, the dragon?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Go with that.
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Some of the activities people claim that Jake was up to when he was alive, it's alive!
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Are things like hanging out in New Orleans brothels, smoking cigars, drinking whiskey, performing
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in carnivals, terrifying anyone who came across him in the sand dunes of Pakistan or casually
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just being a serial cannibal?
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Oh.
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Some of those make me real uncomfortable.
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The sand dunes in Pakistan was very specific.
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Yeah.
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I mean, how's he getting to Pakistan, by the way?
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They think that's where he came from.
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I really don't know.
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Okay.
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Nobody knows.
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It's a mystery.
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Sure is.
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Sure is.
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But the people of Long Beach embrace their weird little unofficial mascot.
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Okay.
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Hopefully by now everyone knows one like we say weird, it's totally a compliment.
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Oh, absolutely.
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I think Jake is the coolest.
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This is a pretty high weirdness factor.
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Oh yeah.
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High weirdness.
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They really love him in this town and you'll see I break for Jake bumper stickers.
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Oh, that's cute.
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I did have pictures.
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I don't see an I break for Jake bumper sticker, but I see like this is one of their stickers
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that they sell at the museum.
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Oh my.
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It's my friend Jake and it has a you know, cartoon of him Long Beach, Washington.
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And then there's also like a shirt with his silhouette on it.
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March is free museum.
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It says establish in 1921.
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I think we'll get there.
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Honestly, I think the silhouette is more horrifying.
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I think so too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Cause it's like what the fuck is this?
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Yeah.
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I think silhouettes are often more horrifying.
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Like that's like shadow people are scary because like you can't see their features, you know?
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That's true.
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He's also been given a key to the city.
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Where does he keep his key for the city?
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In his alligator butt.
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Around his neck.
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I don't know.
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In his little enclosure, maybe a buried in the sand.
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We don't know what he Jake's up to.
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They've even celebrated his birthday since 2007.
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Oh.
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Now with a weekend festival.
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It used to be like just kind of like a small birthday party, but it evolved into a weekend
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long festival.
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It's become a whole big Shindig.
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At this festival, there is live music, a vintage car show.
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Okay.
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And the Burlesque Bachelor party.
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What is that exactly?
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Well, yeah.
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Like why does Jake need a bachelor party, you ask?
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Well because after that is the bride of Jake Beauty Pageant.
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Okay.
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Where women compete to be Jake's bride.
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Excellent.
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They do say it's more of like a funny lighthearted talent show than like a beauty pageant.
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But I do have pictures.
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Oh, oh boy.
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So here is Jake at one of his birthday parties.
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It's called little hat on.
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They take him out.
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Okay, that person who is also in the shot their face is almost more horrifying than oh,
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Jake with his girls.
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No.
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Jake party and drinkin.
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Okay.
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There's a very sexy photo of Jake and a woman on a picnic blanket.
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Okay.
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I was going to say this is very like weekend at Bernies, but that is just too weird.
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Isn't it amazing?
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And here's Jake with this key to the city around his neck.
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Oh.
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That's where you keep your key to the city.
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That's right.
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You don't have one.
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You know what?
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That's true.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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Valid criticism.
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Maybe we'll have to see if we can find an alligator or something.
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Well, it's funny.
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You say that.
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It's because now that I have given away what's it?
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I have.
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Okay.
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All right.
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Alligator feeds.
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From New Orleans.
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How cute.
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And you know, that's where Jake liked to hang out supposedly in New Orleans brothels.
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So which is I have a lot of concerns.
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Yeah.
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Follow up questions potentially about.
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I will save those for later.
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So since no one really knows how old Jake is since they don't know when he was born, where
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he came from, how long he's been around, they celebrate his 75th every year.
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On or around August 1st.
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So he's only oh also that's another significant date in your life.
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Yeah.
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Ruh.
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I don't know.
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Do people know that you're wedding date?
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I think so.
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I think so too.
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I think we talked about it.
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I think anybody cares.
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Yeah.
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I just don't want like out your wedding data.
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Yeah.
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And by the way, this was top secret before now, but I take it very don't I guess first.
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So this year we can't celebrate your anniversary.
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We will have to celebrate Jake's birthday party.
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75.
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I can't celebrate my first wedding anniversary.
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I have to celebrate Jake.
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He's turning 75 all again.
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I'm sure my husband will be fine with that.
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Let's go.
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That would be fun.
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I feel like that makes sense too.
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Like with all of the attention he gets that he is a Leo.
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Oh.
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But yeah, that branding is it's it's it's on point.
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Jake used to attend his birthday parties, which you saw on the photos.
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But now he's actually well, some of the photos you may have seen the real Jake now he's too fragile
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to attend his parties.
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Yes, I see in the glass case.
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Especially since the last party he did make an appearance at.
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He ended up on the missing mangator list.
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Okay, so I would assume that's a short list.
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Yeah, there was it was probably one just him.
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Yeah, you did get him back thankfully, but the police were involved.
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But don't worry, there is a stunt Jake.
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They call the party or excellent.
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So most of those pictures I showed you was like the party or Jake.
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Okay, well, that's fitting.
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We're doing stuff.
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Now, I know all the stories about Jake's life sounds kind of out there.
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Obviously, it's all allegedly Jake's early life, you know, the New Orleans stuff, the brothels,
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the sand dunes, Pakistan.
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Yeah, I mean, it could be a little bit of a stretch, but you know what ifs.
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Sorry, if you heard dog barking in the background once in a while, we'll try to get her to shut
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up.
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Yeah, we make no promises.
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Could you come up here and lay down quietly?
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Come on, baby.
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That's what oh, she's barking at the little deer.
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Oh, there's like four of them down there.
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Look at their little butts.
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Look at them.
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There's the kids.
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Oh, yeah, one just pulled.
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Oh, such a magical place.
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Okay, and I know today that this episode is being released happens to be that one very
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special, tricky day of the year.
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Oh, so right about now is maybe when you're expecting me to say those three little words.
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April Fool's bitch.
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Oh, but I actually cannot because the story's true.
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I was like, I'm gonna have to figure out the rotation here in advance and take this episode
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out of your schedule.
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It was like, we're taking April Fool's off every year for ever.
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No, we're not.
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It's too good.
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I know though that like this, like all of this, like having a bride of Jake, like beauty
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passion, this sounds like it could be like an April Fool's joke.
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It really does.
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It really does.
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We do a photo evidence.
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So I mean, nothing is to be said about his, his before life, you know, with all that
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shenanigans, obviously, you know, maybe that's, there's not a lot of truth in that, but all
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the rest of it is true.
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And now I feel like I have to prove it to you by telling you how Marsh's free museum got
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started.
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Okay.
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So picture it long beach 1921.
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The 20s.
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Wellington Marsh senior opens an ice cream shop and candy shop and then a tavern and then
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kind of giving Bob's burgers.
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He opens a temporary burger stand for crowds that drew to Gawk at a shipwreck.
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Oh, doesn't that sound like something like Bob's burgers would do?
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Honestly, it's so 1920s of it.
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I just, I can't, which then let him to open up a restaurant and bar.
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Okay.
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Well, I mean, sure.
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He's like, listen, this whole temporary thing has worked out well.
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What if we, what if we just, what if it was permanent made that ship permanent?
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I thought the shipwreck was kind of interesting too.
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Okay.
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So this is the shipwreck and it was kind of giving like Titanic fire.
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Yeah.
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This is kind of crazy.
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This is why I thought it was interesting.
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So I'll tell you a little bit about it.
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It was a 300 feet passenger liner steamship carrying 39 passengers and 65 crew members named
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the Admiral Benson, which we compared the Benson hotel to the Titanic.
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Oh, that is weird.
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It's just kind of like a full circle mismatch.
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Yeah.
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One of those synchronized things.
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It is considered one of the biggest shipwrecks in the area known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
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So it was pretty big wreck.
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Yeah.
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It was obviously a few other wrecks to be known as the graveyard of the Pacific.
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I would say.
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So people watched it there for days because it was stuck and they couldn't get it out.
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That is so crazy.
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Yeah.
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So that's why there was a burger stand because people were sitting there watching this thing.
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But it's not still there.
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I don't know.
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It's not still there.
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I think it either like got destroyed or they destroyed it to move it out of there.
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Like it.
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Yeah.
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The beach was later named Benson Beach.
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So back to Wellington's new restaurant.
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This was during the Depression when people couldn't really afford their tabs so they would
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pay with items of interest or as like a placeholder until they could pay their bill.
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So I think that's kind of like a pawn shop or you like give them something in exchange.
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I don't know.
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I was like a placeholder.
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Like you either keep this or I'll come back and call my bill.
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Yeah.
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That's the word I'm thinking.
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Yeah.
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Thank you.
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So Wellington would put these items on the wall and it sort of drew people in to come and
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look at like the random weird stuff on the wall that people would leave there.
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And that was the start of Marsh's free museum.
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Oh my God.
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In 1935 he opened the museum and its own building next to the world's largest frying pan and
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world's largest razor clam.
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Okay.
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And I actually have a pick of the frying pan and that's Wellington.
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He's like in the frying pan.
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In the frying pan and I'll read you what it says quote, "Marsh senior spread eagled in
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front of the world where the frying pan to show its size."
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I mean it is accurate.
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And they do mean spread eagle like arms.
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But when I think spread eagle I think legs and it's like showing its size when I think
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it's funny.
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But he is spread eagle with his arms.
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In 1968 Wellington's children bought Jake the alligator man from a local antique dealer
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for $750.
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Today's money is $6,848.36.
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So I think I'd be pretty upset.
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There's a point to end nearly $7,000 on that but it's not like not a small amount.
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And at first they were like this is too much and actually left.
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But Mrs. Marsh was infatuated with Jake so she persuaded her husband to go back and buy
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him.
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Okay.
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So I don't know Jake the lady's man.
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I mean, really?
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Saying something.
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Wow.
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Before that Jake's first known origin was the cliff house in San Francisco.
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Which there's a lot of info on that and we will be coming back to that in the future.
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Oh, I'm not going to tell you anymore about the cliff house in San Francisco right now.
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Right now.
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Then in 1972 they moved to a newly built location across the street from the frying pan and all
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that.
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And I think the frying pan and razor clams are still there as far as I know.
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And then in 2010 thanks to a senior project they installed the world's largest chopsticks
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30 feet long in front of Marsh's free museum.
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Oh my gosh.
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So they still got free.
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They still got big old biggest things outside their museum.
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I love that.
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In 1978, Wellington Marsh senior passed away but his museum is still in the family.
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And Wellington must have had a soft spot for Jake too because his likeness is carved on
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his headstone.
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Oh my gosh.
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To which his granddaughter says, well, 100 years from now, you'll be like, what the hell is
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that?
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End quote.
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I don't think I need to wait 100 years.
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I feel as though my default reaction is what the hell is that?
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No one really cares how Jake came to be and something it's better not to know.
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Oh.
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Gives him that.
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The mystique.
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But if you're a knowledge seeking bitch like me, you must know.
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I need to know.
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I mostly wanted to know that this wasn't like a house of a thousand corpses situation where
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they turned white shrewt into fish boy.
27:36
I know you probably haven't seen this movie.
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No.
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And all is that sounds terrible.
27:40
So the rain Wilson was in this movie and they're murderers and they so they like, they make
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him into a fish boy for their like oddity.
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Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They put like tail on them.
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Yeah.
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It's it's gruesome.
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Yeah.
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I can imagine.
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Yeah.
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So yeah, I wanted to know like this wasn't like a real purse like a real head, you know.
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I was concerned.
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Yeah.
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But it is not it is not a person or creature.
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It's art.
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Most people think that this might be the artwork of Homer Tate and this is someone who did
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very similar artwork in the 40s and 50s.
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He was the top supplier for tourist traps inside show attraction items.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Which for the record, I am a sucker for tourist trap.
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And I don't think it's like a negative thing.
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I think it's so fun.
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Well, it just depends on what you're looking for.
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Yeah.
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I mean, you can take trips where you're going to go and you're going to eat it.
28:45
Like all of the fun, so you just risk rolls.
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And then there are going to be trips where you eat like chili cheese fries and go and
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see the largest frying pan or or jake gale get her man.
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Yeah.
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Some of the things he made were like shrunken head replicas because obviously you can't
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have real like shrunken heads.
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Yeah.
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Wolf Boy, which is in season six episode two of American pickers.
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And the thing which resides at the Bowen travel center in Texas Canyon, Arizona.
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Okay.
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Which is apparently so remote that everything is reading about it specifies that it's about
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20 miles east of Benson, Arizona.
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Oh, it's not weird.
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Another fucking Benson in the story.
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Yeah, that's weird.
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And it's like, I just thought it was interesting.
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Like it really doesn't have anything to it's not in Benson, but like it's so remote that
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you have to specify where it's at.
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So like that's the only way we can help give you sort of a geolocation.
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20 miles east of Benson.
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Alrighty.
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So now that we've come full circle with all the Benson's.
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Yeah.
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Really?
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That is the end of my scale detail.
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But I am left with one question.
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Is it Jake the alligator man or Jake the man alligator?
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Not sure, but that's really the only question.
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And it's not an April full show.
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Okay.
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Oh, I did want to show you.
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Okay.
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So this is some of the stuff that Homer Tate did.
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This is him and his little workshop with his art.
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Very odd things.
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And then the thing kind of looks like what we saw in Austin with like it was like the Ice
30:43
Man or something.
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It was like this.
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It's like in like a concrete enclosure and you go up and look through the window, the
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glass window on top.
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Makes you feel like it could break out.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I didn't really see any pictures of it.
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That's kind of the only picture I saw of it.
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But I didn't like dig super deep.
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I mean, you got a few threads you're pulling on.
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Yeah.
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A couple.
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And then there is also one post I wanted to show you.
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So it is Jake the alligator man and the unipyper, which the unipyper is a port like a famous Portland
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street performer.
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He does the bagpipes with flames on a unicycle.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So apparently he went to the jigsworthy at one point.
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And then I couldn't find it on the website, but the website said you could put your own
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Jake fan club ticket.
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I couldn't find where you could do that.
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But I found a picture of one of the fan club printout on his enclosure.
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I like wanted to find one of those and put our names on it.
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It says, Hell yeah.
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Jake the alligator man fan club.
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This certifies that link is a member in good standing.
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That's so cute.
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Yeah.
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That's the end of my Scaly tail.
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Scaly daily.
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Do you think we should do some hair over this?
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Ooh.
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But of course.
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I think we're going to have to pause so I can go throw up.
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I'm not.
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Be ready.
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Okay.
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I brought cards little enough for you to shuffle.
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Not that full.
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I brought my cabinet terium deck of cards.
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So it's like oddities.
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I thought it was very appropriate.
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Yeah.
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Wow.
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Yeah, they're really cool looking.
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Yeah, this is the most expensive deck of cards I've ever bought.
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But it was so worth it.
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I can't remember where I got it.
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I got.
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We were together, I think.
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Yeah, I feel like I remember you buying these.
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I cannot remember for the life of me either.
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We probably talked about it on an episode because I know we used them like right after
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a bottle.
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So anyone remembers where we acquired these?
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And then I go back and listen to all the episodes and see when I probably be sure to listen
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to all the ads.
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You know, yeah.
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Maybe twice, two, three times, you know, probably.
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You're not doing anything all of that.
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Yeah, look how small these are.
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It's just a regular deck of playing cards.
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I know what it like compared to doing like tarot just seems like these are so tiny.
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Like I can barely keep them in my hands.
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They're so tiny.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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I think I'm about jakey alligator man's is.
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I was such a fun episode to research too.
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Oh, yeah.
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When I was researching and I came across the cliff in, or was it cliff, I can't remember in
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San Francisco.
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And I came across that and I was like, there's so much tea here.
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That's what I was like freaking out yesterday while I was researching.
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I'm feeling this.
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Oh.
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This is like the chaotic alligator man man alligator.
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I'm just here.
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I'm just here for the ride.
33:58
Are you feeling any any areas of interest?
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I always feel like kind of in the in like the center.
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I feel like I'm always pulled.
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Like kind of drawn to like the middle.
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Oh, okay.
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Oh.
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We got like a planter kind of and it's green.
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Hmm.
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It could be like an alligator tail and there's a man's face on it.
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Oh.
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Yeah.
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Actually, that is it works.
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Yeah.
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I mean, it's not totally unlike him.
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I will say that.
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It's the three of the pentacles.
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Do we need to check clubs?
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Is that clubs?
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It is.
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Yeah.
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Oh, that's interesting.
34:45
Cardamansi, clubs symbolizes the five fingers of the hand can represent working with one's
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hands or making something interesting like home or take making things, you know, with
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his hands and that is interesting.
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No.
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Okay.
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Are you getting a match to a suit?
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I didn't look that up yet.
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I just like for some reason randomly came across that like I just typed in like clubs in
35:13
Cardamansi to see what would come up.
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What was your suit?
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Okay.
35:18
So I did.
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I fully thought it was pentacles.
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Is it cups?
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No, it's ones.
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We haven't done this in a while.
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So yeah.
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Fully thought I would just like pick up a regular deck and remember everything, you know.
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Diamonds are pentacle.
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I was like, okay, I feel like that makes sense.
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Yeah.
35:40
Okay.
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One.
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This is why we were drawn to look it up and not trust our judgment.
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I mean, could you imagine?
35:47
We have ones.
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I want to say it's a very mysterious car.
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Okay.
35:55
Three of ones are keywords are creativity and skill, self-expression, growth, competence,
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and manifestation.
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I feel like all of that, especially with like Wellington, Mars, and all of his businesses.
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Oh.
36:14
Yeah.
36:15
Kind of an entrepreneurial.
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Yeah.
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That was like one of the words they used to describe him for sure, because he like saw
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the opportunity of like the shipwreck and all those people just standing there with nothing
36:25
to eat.
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Dude, you're gonna, okay.
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Read on.
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Now is the time to show the world what you can do.
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You've worked hard to develop your talents and have confidence in your abilities.
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You feel passionately about what you do and believe you can inspire others.
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Express yourself.
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Express yourself.
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Okay.
36:50
In the upright position, it says you've developed a project, business, creative endeavor,
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or other venture, and now you're ready to share it with others.
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Yeah.
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A couple of few of them.
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Yeah.
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Maybe like a burger stand.
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I don't know, whatever.
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I'm casually amused.
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You see them.
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That's lasted till present day.
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Like, yeah.
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By devoting yourself fully to your goal, you can succeed.
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Do what's necessary to bring your dreams to fruition.
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Oh.
37:26
Like buying a $750 jake theater man.
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It would be like almost $7,000 now.
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No.
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No.
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No.
37:36
I don't know.
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I'd buy.
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I buy a lot of things I don't need.
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Yeah, they're usually not $7,000 though.
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No.
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Just these like oddity cards that were like, you know, oh, we needed those.
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Like $35 for the darkest time.
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In a reading about money, the upright three shows increase and financial support coming
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to you.
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You may have to spend money to make money.
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But this card promises success.
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In a reading about work, this card suggests an exciting time when your efforts start to bear
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fruit.
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Ooh.
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You're giving it your all, inspiring others and attracting people who are eager to help
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you.
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Your ideas begin to take form.
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Collaboration can be beneficial.
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If you ask about a relationship, the three indicates a commitment, an engagement or marriage.
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No way.
38:37
That's crazy.
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Right of jake.
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Right of jake and stunning.
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It is kind of a jake and stunning.
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Well, and then the fact that the celebration is on the same day as my wedding day.
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Yeah, that is so fun.
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It's so weird.
38:54
You and a partner express passionate feelings for each other and celebrate your love.
38:59
They said one of the things that it could be like a talent show that the woman does to
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become bright.
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So she'll do like a talent or she'll like just profess her undying love for jake.
39:11
Like this.
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Okay, there's a short extra excerpt.
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Hidden alliances work to move you into your authentic vocation as soon as you begin to
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commit to it.
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Should I try out to be a bride of jake?
39:28
Should I join the beauty pageant?
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Is that what the cards are telling me?
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Sure.
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I'm doing it you guys.
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I'm doing it this year.
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Not that's not April Fool's either.
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I'm doing it.
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Oh, you need a slight jacket.
39:45
Oh my God.
39:48
That would be me in a beauty pageant.
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That's all.
39:52
That's all she wrote.
39:53
That's all folks.
39:54
I have been eyeballing this one though.
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I hadn't but now I am.
40:01
There's one card sitting here and it's just like on the cord.
40:04
So I'm just curious what it is.
40:06
Yeah.
40:07
Oh, it's another like slightly green.
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It looks like weird scissors.
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Yeah.
40:15
That almost looks like a mermaid, like a fin.
40:17
Oh, like the Fiji.
40:19
And it also looks like infinity symbol.
40:22
Oh.
40:23
Eight one, baby.
40:25
Mm-hmm.
40:26
And I feel like this is in reverse because this would be afraid.
40:30
Oh.
40:31
I think.
40:32
Okay, so what is the space?
40:34
So, the space is sort.
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Okay.
40:37
So I double check but I'm worried.
40:39
So, sure.
40:40
Yeah, sort.
40:41
So we got the four swords.
40:43
In reverse, he wears our rest recuperation, retreat, solitude, introspection and recovery.
40:51
That's what Jake needs because he's got to be behind that cape.
40:53
You know, I was just thinking that I owe boy.
40:57
Even the, on the original card, like the imagery kind of looks like someone who could like
41:02
be in a glass case, like just like a land there.
41:05
Yeah.
41:06
I meant like last case of emotion.
41:10
Four symbolized stability.
41:12
This card represents withdrawing and resting in order to get your bearings after a time of
41:17
trouble.
41:19
Went too hard on the weekend with Bernie's thing.
41:22
You know what I realized, too.
41:23
This looks like a lock of hair that it cut off.
41:26
And they did talk about like Jake's wispy, like orange hair that he has on his head.
41:34
And this kind of looks like it.
41:36
Roos!
41:37
That's hilarious.
41:39
Okay, let's go to the reverse.
41:42
The reverse for indicates you need to rest but aren't giving yourself the timeout you
41:47
require.
41:48
If you continue the way you're going, you could even make yourself sick.
41:52
I thought what I just did.
41:53
I was going to say that one feels a little targeted.
41:58
Unless you allow your mind, body and spirit a chance to recover, the situation will grow
42:03
worse.
42:04
Well, I think they're doing that at least for Jake.
42:06
I feel like maybe I need to take this advice, too.
42:10
I think you may need to have a little lie down later.
42:12
Yeah.
42:13
My therapist would agree.
42:14
I, yeah, I'm sure.
42:18
In a reading about money, the reverse for can indicate remorse about a financial matter.
42:24
Oh, I feel like there wasn't that with Jake, but maybe the husband was like, "Damn it."
42:30
Because the wife made him go back and buy it, so I mean there could have been some remorse.
42:35
Could be.
42:37
Perhaps you continue pushing yourself to make money, depleting your energy even though
42:42
you really need to take a break.
42:44
So maybe he just was like, "I don't want to make a museum."
42:47
It's interesting, too, because it's a free museum.
42:52
I mean, it's in the name.
42:53
So they're making money from their postcard selling, I assume, or maybe donations.
43:00
So I mean, I can't imagine they're making a ton of money, you know?
43:05
But it's got to be a lot of effort that goes into it.
43:07
Oh, yeah.
43:08
I mean, look at us.
43:09
Oh, my God.
43:10
You're going to shit.
43:11
I've already done that today.
43:14
No, this is, we literally just talked about this.
43:20
Okay.
43:21
If the reading is about your job, you have trouble dealing with the stress and demands
43:24
in your workplace, but can't see away out of the situation.
43:29
Your head spinning and you're running on empty.
43:32
Perhaps seeking advice from a counselor or someone you respect can give you a new perspective.
43:39
Okay, cards.
43:40
Hmm.
43:41
This was about Jake.
43:43
Not about Kathy.
43:45
That's why I was feeling drawn to that card, though, and you didn't really even notice it.
43:50
Yeah.
43:51
Oh, because I'm ignoring it.
43:53
I'm like, yeah, no, thank you.
43:55
I don't need to hear those messages.
43:57
No.
43:59
In a reading about love, this card can signify giving up on a relationship or giving in with
44:06
regrets.
44:07
I mean, he does have to find a new bride every year.
44:09
Yeah.
44:10
It's demanding is what it is.
44:12
It's a lot of work for 75 year old.
44:15
I mean, come on.
44:17
In some cases, it may mean a temporary situation so you can heal old wounds, gain clarity and work
44:24
on yourself or make burgers.
44:27
Really, I think I'm hungry.
44:30
I think that's why we keep coming back to the burgers.
44:34
I'm sorry.
44:35
Call about those burgers.
44:36
No extra zirps.
44:37
No.
44:38
All right.
44:39
Well, I'm going to read this little paragraph that I miss because it's so cute.
44:44
And obviously, I was like, wait a minute.
44:46
I didn't even say the cute thing that I wanted to talk about.
44:50
Okay.
44:51
And it's kind of a circle, another circle moment, too.
44:55
Oh.
44:56
So in 1944, Wilts' vacationing in Florida, well, I'm going to notice the successful souvenir
45:03
shell shops.
45:04
Say that fact.
45:05
I said, oh, no, I wouldn't.
45:07
Successful souvenir shell shops.
45:08
Dang it.
45:09
Shush.
45:10
So he was like, hmm, my museum's at the beach.
45:14
Maybe I should sell sea shells down by the long shore.
45:18
Oh.
45:19
The long beach, get it?
45:23
Although he did have to import the shells because whole shells, like whole local shells
45:29
are hard to come by.
45:31
But they apparently give customers a tiny shell glued to a card to this very day.
45:37
Oh.
45:38
It's not so fucking cute.
45:41
That's adorable.
45:42
And he noticed that while vacationing in Florida, and then they steal his alligator man photo
45:49
and then say it's from Florida.
45:50
So it's just like another interesting thing.
45:53
Christy.
45:54
I thought that was so cute, the little sea shells.
45:56
I want a tiny little glued shell.
45:57
I love a tiny sea shell.
45:59
And they just give shit away.
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We're free.
46:02
Where's mine?
46:03
We got to go.
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We got to go visit Jake and get our free sea shell if they still do it.
46:06
I don't know, 100% for sure.
46:08
But we're going to find out.
46:10
We are going to find out.
46:12
Long beach isn't that far away.
46:14
No, it's really not.
46:15
Yeah.
46:16
I think we're done.
46:17
It's fucking Sunday.
46:18
Let's go.
46:19
Yeah.
46:20
We're going to get back to the nothing.
46:21
Do nothing.
46:22
Yeah.
46:23
Rest is important.
46:25
Allegedly.
46:26
We're going to go rest to like Jake and a glass case.
46:32
I just had the best idea.
46:33
We need to get replicas of ourselves the partyers that we just set out at parties.
46:40
People can put birthday hats on us.
46:42
I think maybe you need the rest.
46:45
I think the ideas and maybe they'll regenerate with a little rest.
46:51
All right.
46:52
If you say so.
46:53
That's a creepy ass day.
46:56
We'll see you next Tuesday.
46:58
Or we'll see you later, alligator.
47:02
You're going to say the second part of it.
47:06
What?
47:07
After a while, crocodile?
47:08
Oh.
47:09
You don't know that?
47:10
I was like, I don't know.
47:11
I didn't realize that was like the second half.
47:15
After a while, crocodile.
47:19
Somebody get me a goddam burger.
47:22
Oh, my head hurts.
47:32
Am I doing it?
47:34
Am I doing it?
47:36
Am I okay?
47:37
Yeah, I think you sound like yourself.
47:39
Okay, good.
47:40
We're going to hope that I can get the pills.
47:43
So I think we're okay.
47:44
I'm just hoping the migraine isn't contagious.
47:47
It better fucking not be.
47:49
It's the weather though, I think.
47:51
The weather did it.
47:52
It's swed away.
47:53
It is nice for recording those.
47:55
Not too sunny.
47:56
So we're not getting blasted from the back.
47:58
Yeah.
47:59
Nobody likes getting blasted from the back.
48:01
Unless you’re nasty.
48:04
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