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The Bolt Report | 21 July · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: It's the good report.
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  Speaker 2: Well, coming up tonight is something that really worries me
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: about our so called private media. More than two thousand
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: journalists are now getting quietly paid by the Albertezi government.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not even talking about the ABC or SBS.
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  Speaker 2: That's extra and it's frightening. I'll tell you about that
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  Speaker 2: later and plenty more as well coming up, But first,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I've got to talk about Pauline Hanson again,
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  Speaker 2: because really it's now funny, not just important funny.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday we had hans and haters the.
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  Speaker 2: Morning she come back from Britain and explain her outrageous self.
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  Speaker 3: She needs to front up to the Australian people, explain herself.
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  Speaker 2: And journalists of the left same call, you know, claiming
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  Speaker 2: she'd run from them in London. She's stayed out of sight.
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  Speaker 2: Tough politicians take questions, weak.
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  Speaker 1: Ones run away.
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  Speaker 2: It never occurred to me that Pauling Hanson is weak,
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  Speaker 2: but there you go, and funnily enough, the handsome haters
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  Speaker 2: today got their way. Pauline Hansen, on her first full
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  Speaker 2: day back, gave a speech and answered questions from a moderator,
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  Speaker 2: and also gave a press conference and to the haters,
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  Speaker 2: I say, be careful what you wish for, because Paul
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  Speaker 2: and Hanson knocked it out of the park. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen her look more in command and more formidable. Now
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  Speaker 2: I still have a lot of concerns and questions about her,
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  Speaker 2: But today should I think terrify her opponents? Now start
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  Speaker 2: with the trivial because those surprise that's been obsessing the
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  Speaker 2: media today that one nation's Barnaby Joyce. He's lost that.
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  Speaker 2: Or maybe he was showing the pressure of scrutiny, or
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  Speaker 2: he was being erratic, whatever negative spin you can give
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  Speaker 2: to when he shouted at his dog in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of a live interview with a typically rude ABC presenter.
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  Speaker 4: Are you really comfortable with where she is taking you?
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  Speaker 5: I think, sorry, it's a dog.
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  Speaker 6: I have to apologize for this dog which has decided
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  Speaker 6: to bail up.
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  Speaker 5: No worry about the dog, just answer the question.
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  Speaker 1: Don't be rude.
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  Speaker 7: Don't be rude, otherwise this interview will come to a
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  Speaker 7: grinding Sarah.
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  Speaker 2: Now, apart from that's strapie, Sarah Ferguson, I thought that
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  Speaker 2: thing was funny and maybe even afflective, effective deflection.
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  Speaker 1: But there is such a get handsome frenzy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I'm sure you've noticed that even labor ministers were
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  Speaker 2: today making this a political scandal.
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  Speaker 7: Was the dog not tenant?
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  Speaker 5: Was why did it need to sit down?
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  Speaker 2: What was it doing at Fort City? I mean genuinely question, God,
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  Speaker 2: spare me, I'm surprised you took time off making her
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  Speaker 2: dodgy expenses claims to give us that. But anyway, Hanson
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  Speaker 2: today just laughed it off, of course, which still upsets
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  Speaker 2: some journalists at a press conference who are also trying
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  Speaker 2: to make this into some huge watergate kind of.
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  Speaker 8: Laughed off for the question about Barnaby Joyce on seven
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  Speaker 8: point thirty last night, Is it really, though, something that
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  Speaker 8: you can just laugh off the way that his performance
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  Speaker 8: in that interview.
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  Speaker 4: By the way he's told the dog chulp, So what's
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  Speaker 4: what's what is your problem with that?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 8: No, it's well because it just sort of seemed a
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  Speaker 8: little bit of rapid.
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  Speaker 5: Did you not think the whole thing? But it's sort
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  Speaker 5: of yelling of his dog, Oh God?
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  Speaker 1: Is this an insight for you into what's going on
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  Speaker 1: at the moment?
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  Speaker 2: These are the questions that Hanson had to rush home
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  Speaker 2: to Australia to answer.
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  Speaker 5: The dog.
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  Speaker 2: Let's Since we're talking about doggy things, let's get to
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  Speaker 2: the meat today, because I do want to show you
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  Speaker 2: how handsome for all the weaknesses, now has her One
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  Speaker 2: Nation party level with the Labor and News poll and
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  Speaker 2: why Australia really is witnessing a political revolution.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: Naturally, Hanson at this event that she gave at I
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  Speaker 2: think Perth Casino, she rebutted the delay that I nailed
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  Speaker 2: last night that in London she supposedly lamented the end
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  Speaker 2: of the white Australia policy.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to see this anti Semitism that's going on.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to see the hatred that's happening. And
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  Speaker 4: I just feel that, you know, that's why I'm very
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  Speaker 4: strong on certain countries. You've got to say no, and
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  Speaker 4: I've got it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is that.
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  Speaker 6: In a way, though, that is a version of a
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  Speaker 6: white Australia policy?
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  Speaker 9: Is it? No?
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  Speaker 5: It's not no, it's not.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 4: No, it's got nothing to do with that. That's not
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  Speaker 4: to do with the wide Australia policy at all. So
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  Speaker 4: don't go there with me. I'll tell you what, because
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  Speaker 4: I won't stand for it.
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  Speaker 2: So you're here to support there for Hanson, which came
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  Speaker 2: from a sellout crowd of mainly small business people in Perth,
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  Speaker 2: so lots of support and obviously anger now at anything
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  Speaker 2: sounding like another other those tiresome media gotchas, which suggests
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  Speaker 2: that Hanson is right that to a great many Australian voters.
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  Speaker 1: Now, no, she is not extreme.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not extreme. People might say that about me, but
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  Speaker 4: I tend to say what people say say to me.
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  Speaker 4: But you're only saying what we're thinking. But I've got
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  Speaker 4: the gups to get out there and say it.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, let me interrupt myself on that point.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you've seen the media jumping up and down
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  Speaker 2: Hans it going through parts of London that this month
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  Speaker 2: that are heavily Muslim, saying she doesn't want that for Australia,
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  Speaker 2: saying again today she wants to deport a legal immigrants.
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  Speaker 1: You know, oh how racist.
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  Speaker 2: And you might have seen Leam Bartnon on Channel seven
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  Speaker 2: Spotlight program this week indeed, seeming to suggest that Hanson.
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  Speaker 1: Might be going overboard.
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  Speaker 2: But hello, the guy here on Hansen's left in this
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  Speaker 2: photograph is Spotlight producer Luke Mortimer. He end Hanson a
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  Speaker 2: long letter asking her staff to go to London Channel
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  Speaker 2: seven would even help pay to film all that saying,
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  Speaker 2: and Hanson put this on a web website.
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  Speaker 1: We want to do a full hour.
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  Speaker 2: Show on Australia's recent years of record breaking net migration.
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  Speaker 2: Uncontrolled immigration is shaping up as next to his defining issue.
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  Speaker 2: The show ideally will further enlighten our viewers to the
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  Speaker 2: scale of the issue we are facing and what we
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  Speaker 2: might face if we don't take back control of who
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  Speaker 2: comes to our We can discuss travel arrangements for you
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  Speaker 2: and port into the UK. And you know, really I
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  Speaker 2: might surprise you too by saying that, you know, most
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  Speaker 2: journals in private probably do admit that there is a
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  Speaker 2: real problem, but in public, which of them does admit it?
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  Speaker 2: Except of course this Hanson who does and then they
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  Speaker 2: smash it. That's how it works. But back to Hanson today,
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  Speaker 2: Moderator Christopher Dare asked, Hanson, how should been affected by
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  Speaker 2: decades are being treated, that is, as an extremists and
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  Speaker 2: racist and so on?
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  Speaker 5: Are you scarred by that experience?
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  Speaker 1: And we talk about being.
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  Speaker 6: A loner in parliament and being put down and abused
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  Speaker 6: and so on.
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  Speaker 5: I guess the first question is has that.
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  Speaker 6: Changed in parliament?
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  Speaker 10: Now?
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  Speaker 6: Do you have more people talking to you, being friendly
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  Speaker 6: with you, or do you still face some of that
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  Speaker 6: same isolation in the federal parliam.
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  Speaker 4: So truth, yes, I do hope this up. It's funny
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  Speaker 4: and I've got to be honest. A lot of the
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  Speaker 4: people in that place wouldn't even give them the time
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  Speaker 4: of day. I don't the Greens. Do you tell me
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  Speaker 4: one of the Greens that you want to spend time with?
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of them I don't respect because I
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  Speaker 4: can't believe that they surely they've got to see what's
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  Speaker 4: happening to our country, but they won't speak up, they
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  Speaker 4: won't put their hand up, they won't do anything. They
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  Speaker 4: just sit there and go along with what they're told
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think that side of Hanson is going to
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  Speaker 2: resonate with many many Australians, provided, of course, the media
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  Speaker 2: let people see it now. Hanson also today showed she's
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  Speaker 2: go to broaden her pitch to include a lot more economics.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to go around the country asking business owners
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  Speaker 2: what's wrong with this sick economy, what needs to be.
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  Speaker 1: Changed so they can make a buck? And I think
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  Speaker 1: they'll be good.
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  Speaker 2: But one better of that tour, of course, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to admit is that it's going to buy Hanson time
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  Speaker 2: to actually produce some business policies. But there was one
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  Speaker 2: curious thing in her performance today. Is she actually too
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  Speaker 2: scared to be prime minister herself? Does she recognize her
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  Speaker 2: own weakness? Does she prefer the freedom to say whatever's
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  Speaker 2: on her mind without having to make the hard choices
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  Speaker 2: as a prime minister that comes with actually running a country. Well,
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  Speaker 2: listen to a response to being asked if she actually
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  Speaker 2: did want to be prime minister.
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  Speaker 4: Let me just tell you it's not about Pauling Hanson
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  Speaker 4: becoming prime minister. Chris, I want the right person in
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  Speaker 4: the right job, and of someone that I believe can
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  Speaker 4: do a better job than I.
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  Speaker 5: Can you go for it?
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  Speaker 1: That's strange.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even if Hanson won the election, would she
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  Speaker 2: be the prime minister? Would Barnaby Angus Taylor? I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: So whatever Hanson today did what her haters yesterday demanded
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  Speaker 2: and fronted the media. The result it just made her stronger.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe the other political parties should learn that the
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  Speaker 2: best way to survive the Hanson challenge is not to
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  Speaker 2: lie about her or freak about Barnaby's dog. But to
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  Speaker 2: simply be better themselves. And I have to say a
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  Speaker 2: lot better now to an example of how Hanson has
• 10:36
  Speaker 2: been created by the failings of the big political parties.
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  Speaker 2: Global warming net zero. This is obviously ludicrous idea, unscientific
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  Speaker 2: that Australia can change the world's temperature and at the
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  Speaker 2: cost of who knows how many billions. Today, the Australian
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  Speaker 2: newspaper reports of the Abanize govern's crusading Climate change Minister
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  Speaker 2: Chris Bowen has said aside more than four million dollars
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  Speaker 2: to reserve luxury resorts in Fiji for delicates meeting ahead
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  Speaker 2: of the next United Nations Conference and global warming that
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  Speaker 2: will be in Turkey. All that taxpayer money so that
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  Speaker 2: these climate crusaders can enjoy the sofhotl Fiji Resort and
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  Speaker 2: Spa Escape, or the Radisson Blue Resort and the third
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  Speaker 2: resort that Bowen has booked, the Sheraton Fiji Golf and
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  Speaker 2: Beach Resort, nothing less than five stars for climate crusaders
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  Speaker 2: tending the rest of us to cut consumption.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the government complains that this story as a beat up.
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  Speaker 2: You know, we're going to get our money back when
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  Speaker 2: the delegates pay for those rooms themselves, or they be
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  Speaker 2: sure of it will still pay for the rooms of
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  Speaker 2: Bowen and his team. Joining me is the coalition's energy spotsman,
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  Speaker 2: Dan Tian Dan.
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  Speaker 1: Always great to see you.
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  Speaker 2: Look this pre conference meeting in five Star Fiji reshead
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  Speaker 2: of the beginning you were meeting in Turkey November.
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  Speaker 1: Worth the money, not worth.
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  Speaker 5: The money at all.
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  Speaker 7: And what we can't understand is why Chris Bowen isn't
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  Speaker 7: focusing on the two hundred and forty four thousand Australians
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  Speaker 7: who are now in energy hardship.
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  Speaker 5: In this country.
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  Speaker 7: What is this pre COP meeting going to achieve for them?
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  Speaker 5: Is it going to help them with affordable energy?
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  Speaker 9: No?
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  Speaker 7: And Chris Bowen seems to be wanting to do everything
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  Speaker 7: to get an audience for his so called presidency of
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  Speaker 7: the COP. And you'll remember Turkey actually won the presidency
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  Speaker 7: and he seems to be doing everything he can to
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  Speaker 7: have people there and great fan fair so that he can,
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  Speaker 7: obviously you know, reap great pleasure out of their attendance
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  Speaker 7: and the backslapping that will go towards him. While back
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  Speaker 7: here in Australia there is no focus on energy affordability
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  Speaker 7: and absolutely not even an apology for the fact that they
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  Speaker 7: promised that our power bills by the end of last
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  Speaker 7: year would have been reduced by two hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 7: five dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, it doesn't surprise me when I see
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  Speaker 2: this sort of accommodation. There have been thirty of these
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  Speaker 2: annual Bignited Nations Claimate conferences.
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  Speaker 1: Thirty so far.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if they're held in five star resorts, no wonder
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  Speaker 2: they get thousands and thousands, tens of thousands turning up.
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  Speaker 2: Why are they held in some place they could do
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  Speaker 2: with a dough like you know, Tenant Creek or Ooga
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  Speaker 2: Doogu or something like that. They would also help keep
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  Speaker 2: down the numbers. Why five star resorts, do you think?
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's a very good question to put to Chris Bowen,
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  Speaker 7: But I think they put them there so that they
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  Speaker 7: can try and attract as many people as they possibly can,
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  Speaker 7: to try and show that there is strong support for
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  Speaker 7: what they're doing.
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  Speaker 5: But as you know, that.
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  Speaker 7: Support is disappearing by the day because the focus isn't
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  Speaker 7: on affordable and abundant energy. It's about constricting energy, constricting
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  Speaker 7: our way of life, and people are waking up for it.
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  Speaker 7: And you will have seen the recent polling where over
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  Speaker 7: fifty percent of Australians are now saying they don't want
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  Speaker 7: to pay a cent more for net zero to be achieved.
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  Speaker 7: And we know that this government is going to cost
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  Speaker 7: the Australian economy and Australian people billions upon billions trying
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  Speaker 7: to achieve net zero and they're not going to be
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  Speaker 7: able to achieve it by twenty fifty.
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  Speaker 5: That is absolutely crystal clear.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that polling.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's the Compass poll that's just been done for
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  Speaker 2: Affordable Energy Australia and as you say, shows just over
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  Speaker 2: half Australians they want to pay another red cent to
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  Speaker 2: cut emissions to reach net zero, and three quarters they
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  Speaker 2: want to pay more than fifty dollars above we pay already.
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  Speaker 2: Can you guarantee that your policies won't cost one extra dollar?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 7: We've said we will abolish net zero and we will
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  Speaker 7: focus on affordable energy, and we will focus on using
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  Speaker 7: the resources that we have here in this nation. That's
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  Speaker 7: the oil, that's the gas, that's the coal, that's the
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  Speaker 7: uranium that we have here.
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  Speaker 5: We want to.
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  Speaker 7: Use that to pursue abundant energy. Because if we pursue
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  Speaker 7: abundant energy. We pursue affordable energy and that's what we
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  Speaker 7: want to focus on and that's our commitment and the
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  Speaker 7: Australian people will be hearing more about that as well
• 15:42
  Speaker 7: as we want to make sure that the Australian people
• 15:45
  Speaker 7: know the true cost of Labour's net zero approach, because.
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: As you know, they are hiding that true cost.
• 15:53
  Speaker 7: They will not be transparent with it, and we are
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  Speaker 7: absolutely determined to put a number on that so people
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  Speaker 7: know exactly what they're in for under this Albanesi led
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  Speaker 7: government with Chris Bowen as chief energy ideologue.
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  Speaker 2: So can I be chrystal clear about that. Whatever the
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  Speaker 2: government's spending now, not just some what's called net zero,
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  Speaker 2: but anything to cut emissions, anything to cut our emissions
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  Speaker 2: because of global warming, you will spend less or equal
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  Speaker 2: to but certainly not more in the future. That is
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  Speaker 2: a guarantee, Is it.
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  Speaker 5: An absolute guarantee.
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  Speaker 7: We want to get back to producing affordable energy for
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  Speaker 7: this nation because we know it underpins everything and we
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  Speaker 7: know that that is what is happening in the rest
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  Speaker 7: of the world. The US are pursuing energy abundance, Canada
• 16:51
  Speaker 7: is pursuing energy abundance. China is pursuing energy abundance, Europe
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  Speaker 7: is pursuing energy abundance. Asia is producing energy abundance. And
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  Speaker 7: we know that we have to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 7: And we've got to get our sovereign capability back here
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  Speaker 7: as an energy producer given what's happening in the rest
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  Speaker 7: of the world at the moment.
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  Speaker 2: Now you mentioned Chris Bone wanted to get as many
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  Speaker 2: people who are to these conferences as possible. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: he is already offering six hundred and fifty thousand dollars
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  Speaker 2: six hundred and fifty thousand dollars of our money to
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  Speaker 2: fly in a personal cheer squad, is giving up to
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: twenty thousand dollars per person to people who want to
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  Speaker 2: come with him to Turkey to as he puts it,
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  Speaker 2: enhanced inclusion and diversity of the Australian participation in the
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  Speaker 2: conference and our national pavilion there, and to promote voices
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  Speaker 2: and perspectives of First Nations, Australians, Aboriginal Australians and youth.
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  Speaker 2: It's that a sensible use of six hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: thousand dollars of our money, because I wonder what the
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  Speaker 2: hell these diverse people are meant to do.
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  Speaker 1: Standing around in our pavilion.
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  Speaker 5: I was quite quite extraordinary.
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  Speaker 7: In total, six hundred and fifty thousand dollars twenty thousand
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  Speaker 7: dollars going to each activist.
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  Speaker 5: To be able to attend that.
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  Speaker 7: Think what that could do to help those people who
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  Speaker 7: are in energy hardship here in Australia.
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  Speaker 5: But it's not only that.
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  Speaker 7: To give you a sense of why the government is
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  Speaker 7: pursuing this, is that Chris Bowen also has named himself president,
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  Speaker 7: and not only that, has set up the office of
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  Speaker 7: President in his own department. And the total expenditure, I mean,
• 18:38
  Speaker 7: you couldn't make this stuff up, truly, you could not
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  Speaker 7: make this uff. And when we found out that he
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  Speaker 7: named this office of the Presidency, we've caused ask whether
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  Speaker 7: Minister Bowen had demanded that he called it that, but
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  Speaker 7: of course his secretary of the Department took full responsibility
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  Speaker 7: and said he called it that himself.
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  Speaker 5: Now, how any minutester could allow an office.
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  Speaker 7: Of presidency he was set up in his own department
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  Speaker 7: is beyond seriously beyond me.
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  Speaker 5: But that's what they've done.
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  Speaker 7: A hundred seven million the budget and now he's paying
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  Speaker 7: for people to go there to worship for the alter
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  Speaker 7: of his presidency.
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  Speaker 5: I mean seriously. And meanwhile, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I've been I've worked in the opera field for a while,
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  Speaker 2: not singing, obviously, but this is a familiar thing in
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  Speaker 2: opera where people are paid to clap a clack. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know, brother, that's what he's paying for people that
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  Speaker 2: have applaud him. By the way, quickly, Alex Antik, your
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: fellow a liberal senator's actually praised One Nation Senator Malcolm
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Robinson is a clear thinker, even though he were Robins's
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: on cooker ground, you know, saying he admirred Russian war
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: criminal Vladimir Putin. He is a mad and he admired
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: mad conspiracy theories. Alec Jones didn't rule out the Bondoi
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: massacre being a false flag operation initially, and so on.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: What is Antick up to? Do you think?
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Is he preparing to bail on the Liberals to stand
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: for One Nation instead?
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: I don't know, Andrew, but I do know that Vladimir
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: Putin is an evil individual who invaded Ukraine and has
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: caused so much tragedy there. It's it's beyond beyond reprehensible.
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: And I do know that what happened and what's.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Happening with Antique? What's happening with Antich.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: I don't know, you need to ask him that question.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: But all I can tell you is on all those
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: subject matters my position and is very clear.
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: Putin is reprehensible.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: What happened at Bondi, as you know, was one of
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: the greatest, if not the greatest, stays on this country,
• 20:49
  Speaker 7: and we should be calling it out at every single.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you look. Look it's no it is, Dan.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: You know why it's so weird.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Why it's so weird is that here's ANTIQ defending Malcolm
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Roberts when some of mye nation won him gone and
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: wondering how they shoehorn him in there is embarrassing for them.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: But Antika are liberal, is a defending I don't get it, Dante,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: And that's for you guys to work out. But thank
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: you so much for your time, really appreciate it. After
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the break, the war in Iran just got even worse,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: and the US is now warning Americans around the world
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: they could be target sewn.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Spicer after this.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Now the war in Iran is not just getting more intense,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: it is widening. Now US President Donald Trump has promised
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: revenge for Iran killing three US soldiers in a missile
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: attacking Jordan, including nineteen year old Private Isabella Gonzales and
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: First Lieutenant Tyler James Fihn. Trump has posted every time
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: i Ran kills an American soldier, they will.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Pay for that killing. Many times over.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: This directive has been passed on to Secretary of War
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Pete Hegseth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Daniel Kine,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and every leader in the military. And so the bombing
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: continues more of it. The targets include Iranian military sites,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: of course, and especially anything Iran uses to attack tankers
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: in the Strait of for Moors, and yes, indeed that
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: means that shipping through that strait is again heavily restricted.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: The US State Department has also now warned Americans around
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the world that Iran could target them too, posting this alert.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: US diplomatic facilities, including outside the Middle East, have been
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: targeted Iran, and group supportive of Iran may target other
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: US interests overseas or at locations associated with the United
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: States and Americans and our more trouble whot is extremists
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: in Yemen that's on the other side of the Saudi
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Arabia from the Iranian side. Extremists armed by Iran say, then,
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: now attack any ship's going to or from Saudi Arabia.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Saudi Arabian Arabian ships for now in the Babel Mandeb Strait.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: Now this is the Saudi's other route for getting out oil,
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: and this now threatens the world with even tighter oil supplies.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Joining me a short while ago, Sean Spicer, Donald Trump's
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: first White House spokesman, Sewn Spicer, always great.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: To see you.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump wanted this war over long before the November
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: midterm elections that could cost the Republicans that control of
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: both houses of Congress. That's not going to happen, it seems.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What do you think the President's thinking is now about
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: this war and how to prosecute it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: I got to be honest, Andrew, I think you're putting
• 23:43
  Speaker 9: your finger on the existential question right now.
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: The way I look at.
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: This is that there is two competing interest We're now
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: probably into our tenth night of conflict, where we're firing
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: missiles at Iranian targets, they're firing at US and affiliated targets.
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: It's what I would call.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: Low burn right, meaning we're back to some degree of conflict,
• 24:11
  Speaker 9: but it's not making national news every day here in America.
• 24:14
  Speaker 9: I think the problem is once you put your finger
• 24:17
  Speaker 9: in the beehive, we've got it. We have to finish
• 24:20
  Speaker 9: the job because Iran is so upset now about whether
• 24:24
  Speaker 9: it's taking out some of their installations, the Iatola being killed,
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: that these folks want revenge, and if we don't finish
• 24:30
  Speaker 9: the job, we've actually excited them more than before. So
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: it's imperative, imperative that we actually finish this and the
• 24:37
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump make sure that they don't pose a threat
• 24:40
  Speaker 9: to us. And that's where we get into that question
• 24:43
  Speaker 9: of the midterm elections as we get close to the
• 24:45
  Speaker 9: one hundred day marker. So to answer your question, I
• 24:48
  Speaker 9: think the President's trying to calibrate how much do I
• 24:51
  Speaker 9: ramp this up knowing that I might pay a political
• 24:54
  Speaker 9: price in November versus finishing the job that's not really
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: getting done through the selective SMA targeting operations the last
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: nine nights.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought on that point it was interested
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: in Marco Rubio, as a hawk on this matter, was
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: speaking about all this today, whereas Jade vance as a
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: farm or a vedove has been more silent. I also
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: think Sean, and I believe you believe this too, that
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was right to try to stop you around
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: from building a nuclear bomb, right. I might quibble about
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: the fact that I thought he should have gone in
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: harder and not given up with.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: This cease far for a while.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Ram was actually extremely close to actually getting that bomb,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: and that would have been a disaster. But I don't
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: see the Democrats giving any credit for at least trying
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: for that, for trying something that no other president has
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: seriously tried, and the rest of the world isn't helping
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: either with and that really worries me.
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: Well, actually, what worries me more, Andrew, is that they
• 25:59
  Speaker 9: all said it right. So in other words, it's one
• 26:01
  Speaker 9: thing if they didn't believe it ever, But when you
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: listen to the words of all of the senior Democratic leaders,
• 26:07
  Speaker 9: they all said what Donald Trump said, which is that
• 26:09
  Speaker 9: Iran posed an existential threat to our well being, that
• 26:13
  Speaker 9: they had killed US service members and proxies, that they
• 26:17
  Speaker 9: had attacked us, that they would develop a nuclear weapon,
• 26:19
  Speaker 9: that it was going to do this, so they know
• 26:22
  Speaker 9: it's true. I think the difference is that none of
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: them would have acted even though they said they would have.
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: I mean, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, they all talked about
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: taking action in Iran. I think similarly, I am very
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: frustrated by the fact that, you know, especially when you
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: contrasted with Ukraine, the rest of the world loves to
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: tell the United States what to do with its military might,
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: but when it came some time to rid the world,
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: frankly of a threat, because you guys, the rest of
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: the world, Europe is a lot closer to Iran than
• 26:51
  Speaker 9: America is, they were nowhere to be found. I think
• 26:54
  Speaker 9: it's something that is very disappointing. But sometimes you see
• 26:58
  Speaker 9: the truth come out in moments like this, and the
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: truth is we now know domestically, the Democrats were a
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: lot of talk, and the same thing is true with
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: a lot of our so called allies throughout Europe and
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: NATO countries.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But I think this makes it even more imperative that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Trump simply has to win this war. I mean, there's
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: going to be no prizes for leaving it half done.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It'll just be a disaster. He has to win it
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: and do what's needed to do that. But anyway, Britain
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: is now installed. It's seventh prime minister's unbelievable seventh in
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: ten years, and that's Labour's Andy Burnham. Now Suan, this
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: guy is even more left wreen than Kiev Starmer, who
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Trump dismissed there's no Winston Churchill, and quite rightly Burnham,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: as obviously he promised a ten year plan like a
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: true socialist.
• 27:47
  Speaker 11: Theory, is later this year I will bring forward a
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: new plan for Britain. That's a year plan laying out
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: a path from where there we are now, so where
• 28:02
  Speaker 11: I believe we all want Britain to be, wherever we're
• 28:05
  Speaker 11: coming from, whatever party we support. I will give this
• 28:10
  Speaker 11: my all and I ask you all to pull with me.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: At least Stalin's stuck twenty five year plans, but there
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: you go. Burnham is, on the other hand, has immediately
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: had talks on the phone with your president and Donald
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: Trump seems to be surprisingly supportive, Sean, saying that you know,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: we discussed new norzea oil trade, the military alliance, d
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: mining of the hormones straight and many other topics.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: The call was interested, you know, and it went very well.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I wish Burnham good luck and god speed The thing
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: to me here is that here's Labor talking about, possibly
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: from this text, stopping bands and getting all and gaests.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: From the North Sea and helping the US militarily. How
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: do you read it?
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: Well, So, first of all, I would think that Burnham
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: would be lucky if he puts out a ten week plan.
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: I mean, let's be honest, I think putting out a
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: ten year plan. I mean, you've had seven prime ministers
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: in ten years and you have the goal to put
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: out a ten year plan. Look, I give him credit
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: for at least pretending that he's going to be around
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: a while. But here's the thing, and this is a
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: very interesting point that you're making. Burnham's got his domestic
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: issues right, and his ten year plan I'm sure has
• 29:20
  Speaker 9: to do with a lot more left wing domestic policies.
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: But on the issues that Donald Trump cares about, particularly
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: energy in the North Sea and some of these other issues,
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: they seem to have at least found some initial common ground.
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: And I don't find it that different than what happened
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: to our with our neighbors to the north in terms
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: of Canada that there was a lot of concern initially
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: when Mark Carney came in about where he was visa
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: v Justin Trudeau.
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: But Trump and Carney.
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: Found some common ground at least on a couple issues
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: where Trudeau and him couldn't. And I think a lot
• 29:54
  Speaker 9: of this foreign policy is personality, and that's the thing
• 29:58
  Speaker 9: that I wonder whether burn and Trump can at least
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: have a dialogue that goes a little bit further than
• 30:05
  Speaker 9: he had with Starmers. So I think one of the
• 30:08
  Speaker 9: things that gets lost in foreign policy, and we've seen
• 30:12
  Speaker 9: this with some of the folks I'm thinking some of
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: the Scandinavian countries in particular the NATO Secretary General as
• 30:18
  Speaker 9: another where there are times where alliances are made largely
• 30:23
  Speaker 9: on an ability to develop some sort of a friendship.
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: And so we will see whether Andy Burnham breaks the
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: mold and really kind of develop something with Trump on
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: issues that matter, whether it's some of these military alliances,
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: whether it's energy issues. But I wouldn't be surprised if
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: Burnham looks at some of the other folks around the
• 30:42
  Speaker 9: world who struck up a relationship with Trump successfully to
• 30:46
  Speaker 9: their benefit.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Well, one would hope, Sean, because I don't think culturally,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: politically whatever for your country, for Britain, for Australia for
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Canada is there's.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Nothing more important.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: And then the English speaking Alliance so to speak. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: think Britain and America have got to get back together again.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Shawn Spicer, thank you so much, indeed for your time
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that after the break burst another tire again on the
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: pothole in the most broken, buggered state of Australia and
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: why you could be paying for its nearly criminal incompetence.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Victoria is now essentially a failed state and all of
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: Australia is already being forced to bail it out. Now,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: the science of economic and social decay, they're just everywhere now,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, just yesterday, another mashete attack, very bloody, this
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: time on a schoolboy by a pack of teenagers.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Please say we're howling war cries.
• 31:50
  Speaker 12: The suspects are aged sixteen to twenty, of Middle Eastern
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: appearance and wearing dark clothing including hoods. They're not from
• 31:59
  Speaker 12: the same school. Is still on the run tonight.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Multicultural Victoria and so busted and broke is this state
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: that it's criminally incompetent. Labor government doesn't even have enough
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: money now to stop the roads from crumbling into a
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: moonscape of potholes if I found a bit bitter about that.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: In fact, my wife.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Has just burst her third tire on a pothole in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: just a couple of years. And the reason this is
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: a warning to every one of you is that there
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: are our warnings that Victoria is so broke that the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: rest of Australia may have to bail it out. In
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: fact is already doing just that quietly. This week the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Financial Review revealed the document that the Victorian government said
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the Albanezy government a year and a half ago asking
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: for more than three hundred million dollars for produce he
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: was trying to build.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: That failed, but this year the Prime Minister went far better,
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: throwing Victoria four billion dollars for its disastrous about and
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: rail loop project. And the reason Victorians are in such strength.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: State debt by the end of this decade is to
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: reach two hundred billion dollars, which ratings agency mood Is
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: today warned meant one in every ten dollars the governments
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: will spend, then one in every ten dollars could go
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: just to meet interest payment on that giant debt.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Join me is leef A.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Nonsolin, co founder of Macro Business and a former federal
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Treasury official, Nith always great to see you. How serious
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: is this.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: Look, it's very serious Andrew.
• 33:33
  Speaker 13: Look, Victorians are already the highest tax people in the nation,
• 33:36
  Speaker 13: and yet our state is also the most indebted, with
• 33:39
  Speaker 13: the poorest credit rating, and ultimately with one in every
• 33:42
  Speaker 13: ten dollars of revenue projected to go towards debt repayments.
• 33:45
  Speaker 13: This means there's going to be fewer funds available for
• 33:48
  Speaker 13: services basic infrastructure things like fixing potholes. It also means
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: that the government's going to try and squeeze us even
• 33:54
  Speaker 13: harder for tax revenue. So this is very serious.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And do you think for all that will Victoria need
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: bailing out?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Look, we already have been bailed out to a degree.
• 34:07
  Speaker 13: So this financial year, Victoria is going to receive one
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: point four billion dollars more in GST revenue than New
• 34:13
  Speaker 13: South Wales despite having one point five million fewer people.
• 34:17
  Speaker 13: Victoria's going to receive one dollar and six cents for
• 34:19
  Speaker 13: every one dollar of GST estimated to be raised in
• 34:23
  Speaker 13: the state, whereas New South Wales only received eighty two
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: cents per dollar raised. And of course, as you mentioned
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: just before, the Albanese governments also committed an extra four
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: billion dollars for Victoria's suburban rail loop, despite.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: The project failing multiple cost benefit nalysis.
• 34:37
  Speaker 13: So I think this is just the tip of the iceberg,
• 34:39
  Speaker 13: and I think going forward we're going to see more
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: federal funds and funds from other states making their way
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: down to Victoria to bail out our mess.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Now it makes you, of course, wonder how you got
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: this bad and the mass spending, the bloat of public servers,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: the stop start like canceling the common games that it
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: costs them a billion dollars just after having won the bid.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: How did it get this bad? And what warning should
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: the rest of Australia take from it?
• 35:09
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so it was obviously due to very poor financial
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: management of state labor government. So when it took office
• 35:13
  Speaker 13: in twenty fourteen, Victoria had very low debt. Now it's
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: the most indebted state government in the nation and has
• 35:19
  Speaker 13: the lowest credit rating and it's dead binges basically being
• 35:22
  Speaker 13: brought about by wasteful spending on the public service, which
• 35:25
  Speaker 13: has ballooned massively in size. We've got massive amounts of
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: bureaucrats as well as infrastructure which has been absolutely riddled
• 35:32
  Speaker 13: in roots and obviously CFMEU corruption. So Andrew, basically we
• 35:36
  Speaker 13: need a royal commission of this whole stinking edifice. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 13: I'd say that Victoria is the coutionary tale of what
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: can happen after twelve years of incompetent, wasteful government. You
• 35:45
  Speaker 13: know again, twelve years ago, in twenty fourteen, Victoria was
• 35:48
  Speaker 13: a decent state and now we are an absolute failed state.
• 35:52
  Speaker 13: And the rest of Australia should take here and not
• 35:54
  Speaker 13: become like Victoria.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: One factor in this declan, of course, is the mad
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: cha for net zero getting rid of cheap Coli fired power. Yeah,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I know all Australia went crazy like that, but Ivitori
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: has been particularly bad. Yet there's the latest Statistical Review
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: of World Energy saying now this month that the rest
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: of the world largely is not going along this route.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: It has found that all use last year record high
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: natural gas use around the world, record high, coal, record high,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: and emissions of course as well. And the report concludes
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: fossil fuels continue to expand in absolute terms and retain
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: their dominant position, accounting for eighty six percent of the
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: world's total energy supply. What should this tell us about
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: our quixotic crusade to get to net zero.
• 36:49
  Speaker 13: Well, I think it to clearly tell us that there
• 36:51
  Speaker 13: is no energy transition. Only a few gullible nations like Australia,
• 36:55
  Speaker 13: the UK, Germany, etc. Still believe in net zero, and
• 36:58
  Speaker 13: they believe that we should base our entire energy system
• 37:01
  Speaker 13: around intermittent, weather dependent renewable energy like wind and solar.
• 37:05
  Speaker 13: And look, let's be honest, and it makes no sense
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: for Australia shut down its coal generation when we export
• 37:10
  Speaker 13: seven times more coal to the rest of the world
• 37:12
  Speaker 13: than we use, and Asia accounts for around eighty percent
• 37:15
  Speaker 13: of the world's coal consumption and continues to burn more
• 37:18
  Speaker 13: coal every single year. So what this tells you is
• 37:21
  Speaker 13: the austrauation is burn its own coal and we should
• 37:23
  Speaker 13: give ourselves cheap and reliable energy.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: It's as simple as that.
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: How about also using our own uranium. I mean, I
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: find it insane that we celebrate to this government celebrates
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the federal government celebrates the deal to sell India more
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: uranium for nuclear power, which.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: We ban for ourselves.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: It's just you just wonder what on earth, what madness
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: has possessed in this country.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Lifanonsen and thank you so much for your.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: Time and after the break. It's not just the ABC,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: and it's not just their sps. There are now two
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: thousand other journalists in our media quietly getting money from
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: the government and it's time they revealed it. Every time
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: they report the caution, I'm going to search show imagery
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  Speaker 2: which may disturb some viewers. It's not just Jews thinking
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  Speaker 2: there's a great sickness in this country that seems terrifyingly familiar.
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  Speaker 2: George Foster, the president of the Australian Association of Jewish
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  Speaker 2: Holocaust Survivors and Descendants, spoke about it today the Royal
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  Speaker 2: Commission into Anti Semitism.
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  Speaker 10: I'm sometimes asked whether I believe that Australia is becoming
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  Speaker 10: another Germany in the nineteen thirties. Now my answer is no. However,
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  Speaker 10: as the son of survivors and president of the Association
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  Speaker 10: and the Synagogue, I can't ignore certain disturbing parallels in
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  Speaker 10: the social atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: It talked about jew for instance, being driven from public
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  Speaker 2: life and not daring even its address like Jews down
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  Speaker 2: the street. Yet Labor, ahead of its national conference this week,
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  Speaker 2: is adding several paragraphs to its national.
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  Speaker 1: Policy damning Israel falsely.
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  Speaker 2: Implying its starving Palestinians back in the International Criminal Court,
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  Speaker 2: which for political reasons called for the arrest of Israel's
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister for war crimes and attacking Israel's death penalty
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  Speaker 2: for terrorism, calling it anti Palestinian, without even mentioning that
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  Speaker 2: HAMAS is publicly executing Palestinians that it claims collaborated with Israel.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me Holly Hughes, former Liberal Senator, and Michael Danby,
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  Speaker 2: former Federal Labor politician and Chairman of the Joint Standing
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  Speaker 2: Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade. Michael Israel's ambassadors
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  Speaker 2: criticized Labor for being so one sided against Israel in
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  Speaker 2: this draft platform that will be adopted if all goes
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  Speaker 2: to plan at the National Conference this week.
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  Speaker 1: Is he right to be upset?
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  Speaker 14: He is? And this is in the long run of
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  Speaker 14: Australian history Labor back to pre the days of the split.
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  Speaker 14: This is socialist left total control of the conference and
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  Speaker 14: Elbow and Wong dishonoring promises they made when they unilaterally
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  Speaker 14: recognized a Palestinian state, to abolish hamasa's role in any
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  Speaker 14: prospective government and to criticize the Palestinian authorities pay for
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  Speaker 14: sleigh where our tax dollars are used to subsidize terrorists
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  Speaker 14: in prison. So both of those things dropped, and all
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  Speaker 14: of these irrelevant things, And this isn't a cloud cuckoo,
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  Speaker 14: land Andrew. There's a ceasefire in Gaza. Lebanon is negotiating
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  Speaker 14: peace with Israel, and you can see Iran mass execute
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  Speaker 14: forty thousand people. Why don't the socialist left say something
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  Speaker 14: about that?
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  Speaker 5: In Adelaide?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I say a little bit about Iran, but Holly,
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  Speaker 1: what has happened when they.
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  Speaker 2: Think to Labor that it's so obsessed with israel supposed
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  Speaker 2: sins and so mute of those on the Palestinian side.
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  Speaker 3: I think Michael's right when he talks about this potentially
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  Speaker 3: becoming part of a split within the Labor Party because
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  Speaker 3: they are being dominated by the left wing who are
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  Speaker 3: completely anti Israel. But the reality within the Labor Party,
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  Speaker 3: and you won't hear me say nice things about many
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  Speaker 3: people in the Labor Party, But you know, Michael, you're
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  Speaker 3: an example of this. And people like Deb O'Neil and
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  Speaker 3: Don Farrell and Milton Dick are very strong supporters of Israel.
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  Speaker 3: And how are they to be bound by this decision,
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  Speaker 3: because this is the problem in labor. Once they have
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  Speaker 3: this platform, every member is bound to it. And I
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  Speaker 3: know that there are labor members who are very supportive
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  Speaker 3: of Israel who don't support use of mus statistics as
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  Speaker 3: such sort of proof for what's happening in Gaza and
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  Speaker 3: understands what the Palestinian people are actually experiencing under Hamas rule.
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  Speaker 3: It is for us that throws people homosexual people off rooftops.
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  Speaker 3: Yet they're completely silent when it comes to any of
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  Speaker 3: these human rights issues that they're normally so happy to
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  Speaker 3: jump on the bandwagon of. And I think there could
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  Speaker 3: be some form of existential split here because I would
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  Speaker 3: be incredibly disappointed and disheartened for what is remaining of
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  Speaker 3: the labor right to be forced to swallow this kind
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  Speaker 3: of anti Israel garbage.
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  Speaker 2: Well, speaking on that, Michael, what has happened to the
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  Speaker 2: labor right? I mean, I'm just not hearing much pushback
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  Speaker 2: against this. It's just it's sick. Do you see there
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  Speaker 2: being a split one day or what's going on?
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  Speaker 5: Andrew?
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  Speaker 14: People should see the continuity between what you've discribed in
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  Speaker 14: Victoria and this takeover. Previously journalist from the camera Pressgourery
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  Speaker 14: would have described the breakup of factions at the national
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  Speaker 14: ALP conference. They don't do that anymore. The socialist left
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  Speaker 14: has taken over the Labor Party in Victoria. Their mad
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  Speaker 14: schemes have led us to two hundred billion dollars of debt,
• 43:23
  Speaker 14: and the extremist Middle East policy is only an anecdote
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  Speaker 14: about their whole wider crazy policies. There is no resistance.
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  Speaker 14: You should ask Conroy about this. His mate Miles and
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  Speaker 14: Sam Ray are disgraces, really hopeless.
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  Speaker 1: Holley, This might help explain it.
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  Speaker 2: The media pilon against paul and Hanson should declare you
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  Speaker 2: now with one nation but the media pilon against Pauline Hanson,
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  Speaker 2: the media defense of Labour's multiculturalism. I reckon the time
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  Speaker 2: has come for more media transparent because most people they
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  Speaker 2: already know the Albany The government pays the ABC journalists,
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  Speaker 2: pays the SBS journalists, with almost no Australian knows is
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  Speaker 2: that it now also helps to pay the salaries of
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  Speaker 2: another two thousand journalists in nearly two hundred private news
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  Speaker 2: rooms under its sixty seven million dollar Journalism Assistance Fund.
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  Speaker 2: It's supposed to support what it claims is public interest
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  Speaker 2: journalism a media diversity. It includes sixty million dollars for
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: the nine Media Group, eleven million for Channel seven, and
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: it's new Southern Cross Group, grants for regional and grants
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  Speaker 2: for ethnic papers, and a whole range of exclusively left
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  Speaker 2: wing outlets like Cracky, The Conversation, Umbrella, the Saturday Paper, Mmma, Mia,
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  Speaker 2: not one.
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  Speaker 1: Dollar, the Sky News. Of course we're in there.
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  Speaker 2: We could murd up papers now, Holly, I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: all these journalists tow the labor line as a result
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  Speaker 2: of the money, but shouldn't they at least declare this
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  Speaker 2: government money at the bottom of everyone the articles?
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  Speaker 3: Well, but the reality is they're not journalists anymore. They're
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: all some form of opinion writer or commentator on what
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  Speaker 3: their personal beliefs are. I have my undergraduate degree was
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  Speaker 3: in broadcast journalism, and I can tell you we were
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: taught to report the news. Our opinions didn't matter, and
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: that was how the old days of journalism used to operate. Now,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: if you look at the papers or watch the news,
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: it's people giving their opinion and their viewpoints. I mean,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: we're a view an opinion show. That's what we are.
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: We don't pretend to be anything other than that these
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: are writing under the guys that they are delivering news
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: and updates and information, but it's all tainted by personal
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: opinions and those of the organization that they work for.
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  Speaker 3: I could not believe this when I read it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's disgusting.
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  Speaker 3: We know that there'll be funding going to some of
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  Speaker 3: these pink hair lunatics who sit in their mother's basement
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: with Tim Foyle or their head spouting all these ridiculous conspiracies.
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  Speaker 3: And you know that all the ridiculous work issues that
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  Speaker 3: we were going on, there won't be.
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  Speaker 5: A conservative one.
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  Speaker 3: I can tell you there won't be a conservative one.
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  Speaker 3: They'll all have pink hair and things.
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  Speaker 2: The government money on private sector journalists public I don't yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well exactly, but even the private ones. Michael New Zealand
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  Speaker 2: was trying this too. I think it's a corrupting influence
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  Speaker 2: because it makes journalists and media outlets look to the
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  Speaker 2: government and not want to offend the government.
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  Speaker 1: It's just natural.
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  Speaker 14: It's natural, and it's it's wrong and they should declare themselves.
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  Speaker 14: And no one knew that it was to this extent,
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  Speaker 14: and they slag Sky and they slag the Australia, but
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  Speaker 14: none of them would exist because the public don't want
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  Speaker 14: their wares unless they got these government subsidies. Of the
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  Speaker 14: Sydney Morning Hera will probably go out of business. So
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  Speaker 14: the same with certainly with the boring Saturday paper or
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  Speaker 14: Criche or they even subsidized at mad West Publications, so
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  Speaker 14: you know there's hands out. The money is available from
• 47:19
  Speaker 14: Monica Wells for all of this.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of tripe.
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  Speaker 14: It's just outrageous, should be declared and should be a
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  Speaker 14: level playing field where they're forced to compete with people
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  Speaker 14: who are critical.
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  Speaker 2: Of them and highly to your point, I mean you
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  Speaker 2: don't need to write an opinion piece to get across
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  Speaker 2: an opinion. I mean Barnaby Yell's Barnaby Joey Seals and
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  Speaker 2: a Dog. A journalist says, here, why are you you know,
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  Speaker 2: why are you cracking up like this and acting so badly?
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: And another journalist might say, oh that's funny.
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  Speaker 1: Now listen.
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  Speaker 2: More importantly, what about you know, mass immigration into this country.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: You're not bus but yes you are in fact in
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the questions you ask, are the liberals are labor now fighting?
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  Speaker 1: Yep?
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  Speaker 3: I was there to say I thought that was the
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: best news that Sarah Ferguson has delivered ever with that
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: clip about Barnaby yelling at poor Stella and I can
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  Speaker 3: tell you you've got a farm dog. They have to
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: be disciplined nothing. It shows the divide between those who've
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: lived on a farm understand rural and regional life versus
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: some inner city lefty and all their brigade now that
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: it's some form of animal cruelty, for God's sake, but
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I did make sure that my little beautiful multi shitsuo
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: is well and truly ensconced in the front bast night
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  Speaker 3: and not going to interrupt the show.
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  Speaker 1: And my tend to feel terious.
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  Speaker 2: Oh what a shame. But Michael, you know the lines
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  Speaker 2: have been told this week. I'm running out of time.
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  Speaker 2: But about Hanson saying she regretted the one the white
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  Speaker 2: Australian policy being abolished, things like that, I mean, this
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  Speaker 2: is just nonsense, isn't it. Why is labor doing it?
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: It just I think it just harms them.
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  Speaker 14: You've been very fair, Andrew, You've criticized her are other things,
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  Speaker 14: but they've been unfair on this issue. Tackle the issues
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  Speaker 14: too much. Migration five hundred thousand from people like me
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  Speaker 14: to immigration.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Michael Danby Holly Hughes up next
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  Speaker 2: to Charon
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  Speaker 1: Marks and good night.