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CJP #61: Peter Spoto · Coconut Justice

• Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He's back everybody. He's back. I've been having this cheesy smile on my face for the last, I don't know how long, cause you guys, Peter Sporto's back! Yeah! What's up, son? Cefore X. Plosives: Thanks for watching! Peter Spoto: My boys, my boys, my boys. Missing you every day, God. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah Peter Spoto: How could I live my life with this much of a pause between last time and this time? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I know, I know. You heard that giggle back there. You heard that giggle. You know who that is. Let's see four explosives everybody. Cefore X. Plosives: Heh. That's me. What's up, folks? Too long, Peter. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: C4 AKA he's my sling box. Mike Slinger is my sling box. Cefore X. Plosives: Yes, sir. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If you guys don't know this is a bit of trivia Mike ⁓ Chicago who's part of a rap crew called the Mike Slingers which I love that name I don't know if I've don't know if I've glazed you properly enough but I really do love that name Cefore X. Plosives: It took a long time, man. We went through a lot of ⁓ pseudonyms, I guess. That one stuck. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah, when it sticks, makes sense. Cefore X. Plosives: Absolutely. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, which is is funny because, ⁓ you know, I have a I have a little video clip out there making some noise right now. I was in a I was in a conversation with Chris Fields and I was talking about, ⁓ you know, levels of oppression. And boy, when I said black folks are down here, brown folks are, and you know, the levels of oppression when you go up, boy, you better watch what you say, internet. But this is just it, internet. I'm right. I am correct. So catch feelings if you want, but it's not gonna change it. Peter Spoto: For real. Cefore X. Plosives: Thanks. Peter Spoto: Let people feel what they feel. Read the books, Any historical book. Read the holy book. I mean, any of it. there's no discussion. mean... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Read the books. any. Because I know the truth. Listen, for the folks for the folks that don't believe me, when we get off this call after after you listen, after you watch this whole video, this video might go for three days. I don't know because I love Peter like that. Cefore X. Plosives: to. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): but Google Rockford, Illinois Fairgrounds projects. Peter Spoto: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): in the seventies, like when, when Rockford was coming down off its hay day, that's when I lived there. That's where I come from. I have seen a lot. I have seen a lot. Peter Spoto: Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: Mmm. Peter Spoto: Love Rockford. Love Rockford. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So when folks, there was this one person in particular, they said something to the effect of the fact that your name is coconut justice, you're white on the inside, or brown on the, they went in on me. And I said, if you were to watch that entire conversation I had with Chris Fields, Chris is intelligent and there is no reason why, ⁓ and he has... Peter Spoto: Fuck you. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He had a campaign for Senate, U.S. Senate seat coming out of New Jersey. And he missed it because he didn't get enough signatures. So I took it upon myself to go and get him and say, we need you out here because you are intelligent and you are everything about him. We need people like this in the halls of Congress. Cefore X. Plosives: ⁓ Peter Spoto: Wow. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-mm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And he seemed like a little bit bigger of a guy, you know, so if he checked someone up against the holes in the hallway, you know, he can get that done. Cefore X. Plosives: Yep. Peter Spoto: Nice. Nice. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So he's the one that asked me where the name Coconut Justice came I don't know how many hundreds of videos I've made. No one's ever asked me why Coconut Justice. He did. So then this person was going off on me because my name is Coconut and I'm all kinds of things. She was going off on me in a racist way. And I said, if you were to watch that video, you would see that Coconut Justice comes from me defending black folks. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: Mmm. ⁓ Peter Spoto: Let me share with you my coconut story. Okay. Are you ready? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Toby. Peter Spoto: I'm five, six years old. course I'm gonna date myself I don't give a shit. This is 1959 before Fidel I was in Cuba. I was in Cuba. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Is that considered masturbation? Cefore X. Plosives: Hahaha Peter Spoto: My abuelito, my grandfather had a small hotel and property. He was trying to get retirees to come over and buy some land and develop a little place. And he was going to have horses and all this stuff. This is his dream, you know, his retirement dream after teaching and after doing real estate and all these other things anyway. So we're walking around, of course, bananas everywhere, guayabas. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: iguanas running around, coconut trees. One of his workers, guy was a fricking riot, man. He was just wild. He's way up in the coconut tree and he's throwing coconuts down on us kids to scare the shit out of us, you know. Of course he's not going to hit us. So I what? I thought, I thought coconuts are falling from the sky, you know. Cefore X. Plosives: I'm Peter Spoto: And so my grandmother took the coconuts and yelled something in Spanish up to him and he came down and he was laughing with us and he took his machete and ⁓ broke open all the coconuts. We had this beautiful coconut water, coconut juice and then the meat of the coconut. And I said, I see. So this is coconut justice. You came down from the tree. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: after scaring the shit out of us. This is just my modern day tape. After scaring the shit out of us little kids and you gave us this amazing, amazing nectar from heaven from this coconut and this fruit that I've never, you know, could imagine tasted so good. And so that's coconut justice in a nutshell for me. So when you add that little piece, which I did not know until just today. that you are the man, the heart and soul of the coconut, the coconut water and the coconut nectar and the coconut juice and the meat protecting those people who are going through rough times on the outside, you know, it's just perfect. It's freaking perfect, man. It's a perfect ⁓ Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): that that's why I hate that's why I like hanging out with you Peter you make me don't don't make me love you even more than I already do Peter Spoto: Come on, man. It's so vivid in my mind, you know. Damn. So. Cefore X. Plosives: You can see why I couldn't keep them all to myself, man. I had to share them with the world. Peter Spoto: You know, okay, so everybody looks at me, right? Sicilian, Cuban, Irish, Scottish, and English, you know, in there. And, you know, everybody has all these concepts. What is this fucking guy, mafia or, you know, guano or, and it's always been the same for me, you know, like, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, yeah. Peter Spoto: since I was a little boy, all I wanted to do was not pit fights, but I wanted to fight for what I knew was right in my soul as a little kid. What I mean by that is, I remember the family that came to take care of our lawn, our yard, mowing the lawn, and the landscaper, the gardener. who came to take care of our yard. We were still in a humble place in Florida where we lived before, you know, later, this is early on. And I was playing with all the black kids, you know, the dads working and the kids were there. Hold on just a second. Neighbor dogs get too much Jingomen. So, so I'm playing with the kids and I just, we're just having such a blast. And the other neighborhood kids, kids that are all white came up and said, you can't be doing it. You shouldn't be doing that. You can't be doing that. I'm saying, what do you mean? We're playing. We're kids. And there was this part of me, was, God, maybe eight or nine at the time. It just, you know, yelled, fuck you to all of, all of, all of that thinking. said, we're just kids hanging out, having a good time while their dad is making our house, you know, beautiful. So I'll never forget that. Second part of the story is. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Peter Spoto: My mom and dad were both medical doctors. They met at Tulane Medical School. My dad's, of course, parents were from Sicily. My mom was born in Cuba, went to school in Miami University, and then went to medical school, met my dad. And so their busiest shit with their interning and residency. I was raised by a Creole woman. Basically, she was there every day. Her name was Nautica, which means the ocean. And I thought, Jesus, this woman is a saint. She's taking care of my brother and me and all my parents away. And just had that we had this beautiful experience with her growing up. And so these are my concepts of reality shaped by how I grew up and they You know, my parents treated her so well, like she was a member of the family. wasn't Nautica, the caregiver. She was fricking Nautica. She was like life. So those things informed, you know, who I grew up, who I am and what I was even from that time. So, ⁓ that's kind of just the backstory and why. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): you Yeah. Peter Spoto: you know, Coconut Justice in C4X, man, you know, just seeing you guys is like, I'm with my younger brothers. There's no other way to explain it other than like the true people. The truth of who you guys are just Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Shitalkers unite! Cefore X. Plosives: Hehehehe table flippers. Peter Spoto: is so clear and it's the same. want to have those eyeglasses to see everybody and I don't, but I certainly see it in both of you and that's why I look so forward to our time together because you just bring out the truth that's in me, the truth of who I am. That's who you are, that's your identity. The truth And the truth sets us free and you elicit that in me. And I can't speak for other people, but I know it's got to be so with everybody that you guys encounter. With your music, with your ⁓ art, with whatever it is that you're doing. ⁓ like I said, I feel really, really thankful that I met you guys and you're in my life. So that's the gist of the story. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Same here, Pete. Same here, Pete. Peter Spoto: So let's pop a coconut and let's jam. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's Papa coconut. Cefore X. Plosives: PEDUPS, when we were working together, ⁓ leave, the people that you encounter, you leave a piece of you with them everywhere. And whether they want to like really understand it and unravel it is shame on them if they don't. You know what I'm saying? like, I remember we came back for, You came over the house and you brought over barbecue for the family and a bottle of wine, man. And we broke bread. And my son, as young as he was at the time, it was like 10 years ago. No, like 12 years ago. He remembers that. And like... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): man. Cefore X. Plosives: a piece of a piece, like, you know what I'm saying? Like it's, you create those memories, especially when you're, when you're young like that, right? You, when, the guy was throwing coconuts at you, something resonated and it stuck with you. You have, you have that with you everywhere you go. And I just hope people that, ⁓ that are around you appreciate that total strangers need to have to feel this, like this energy from you. You know what I'm saying? Peter Spoto: Yes, yes, yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: and just want to be like, I want to see what this guy's all about. I really know. Because this guy is an amazing human being. Every time we have Carlos, like when we have a text message with P-Dubs, like we'll chime something in there. And the next thing you know, you got like novels, novels coming out. Dems, Dems are dropping. And coconuts from the sky. You don't have to... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I have to come clean. I have to come clean. I to cut time in my day to like get that fit. And it's usually, when I see messages coming from P-dubs in that thread that we have, I smile because I know I'm gonna go outside and I'm gonna be in the sun and I'm gonna be reading. Cefore X. Plosives: Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And you can't. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the knowledge that's just dripping from this message. Peter Spoto: So everybody says to me, so what are you going to do for the next 10 years? said, I got five books that I'm going to pop off. OK? And it's true. It's all inside. And now I'll have the physical vehicle and the practical. I'll make the practical vehicle to which I can do that. But I'm saying that how can I not share? the beauty and the joy of what's been shown to me or what's been given to me, even though I know that we are living in just fucking dark, dark, just bad shit, you know, right now. And so somebody said to me, you know, this person recently said to me, what is wisdom? I said, ⁓ well, you know, I started giving this whole talk about wisdom and she says, just shut up. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): just when smart old dudes get tired of your bull shit. Peter Spoto: And she said, wisdom is having the capacity to be able to embrace both of these things simultaneously. The paradox of how beautiful we are as a species and how amazing we are, yet simultaneously we see around us this other, you know, Cefore X. Plosives: You Peter Spoto: quote unquote reality and being able to embrace those things and without you know jumping off the ship one way or the other you know so anyway It's so incredible to me to think that. You know, we are truth. We, you and the three of us, we are truth. And people don't understand when the man said, I am the way, the truth and the life, what he was saying was not, you know, everybody's got to bow down and worship me. But if you follow me, you're going to become the truth yourself. And what I've noticed is the more and more I become what I consider the truth of me, the truth of who I am, I become quiet, not loud. So don't get me wrong, you guys push all my buttons and we start the tape and can't shut this thing down for like eight days, you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ha Peter Spoto: P-Dubs needs editing, you know, all the time. But this is what I was thinking about this morning. Who are these people that we see in power right now who are so loud and they're so brash and they're so, ⁓ you know, ugly and, you know, bombing people and, you know. Cefore X. Plosives: No, uncut, brother. Peter Spoto: Torching people, setting them on fire, destroying their life, their property, their well-being, everything. I'm just saying, like, who are they? And I mean, that to me points to the fake, the falseness, the fakeness of who they are. So I'm saying that the loudest people in the room, the people who are screaming and yelling and don't let anybody Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: you know, in and can't listen and can't see other people. This is what fake is. This is what phony is. This is what ego is. But people who are true and truthful, and as I said, surprisingly, I find myself more and more quiet. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you can be smart. You can be, you can be smart, but wisdom kicks in when you realize that you're arguing or you're sharing information with people. Peter Spoto: And so who scares me? Yes! Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): cut to cut to the quick people that are idiots right you know you're just wasting your time trying to convince some people so finally you say you know what Peter Spoto: Yes, it's true! Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If you like it, I love it. I'm going be over here doing my thing. Right. And then what happens is, and this is a good spot for this. I was waiting. I was waiting to talk about this and this is a perfect spot. Peter Spoto: Boom! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We're going to talk about God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yeah? Don't let me get off track, because you know how I get. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah Peter Spoto: You're always on track, man. You are the railroad. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): There was a conversation that I had with Jen Johansson. And if you guys don't know, Jen is just this miraculous human being, and she's a part of reasoned reality and all this good stuff. Right. So we had a conversation about religious deconstruction because she was going to Chicago with some politically active friends. Peter Spoto: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and she said religious deconstruction and you can't go to the Midwest and be talking crazy like that. So I was setting the table for her, right? And a bunch of you know, there was a bunch of people who aren't from there They were commenting on the post talking about enough of this Jesus stuff enough of this Jesus stuff, right? So I had her come back on the channel so we can talk about religious deconstruction and I was trying to explain to her as a programmer I Know what it is to start a program run it and just walk away Right. So to me Earth is part of the game. We can call it life. God to me. are the rules that make you a good person. The Bible is a cheat code and Jesus himself is the manifestation of what God would play this game like if he were to come down and play this game. Cefore X. Plosives: You said it was he was the Avatar. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the Avatar. Yeah, right. So you have a game and the name of the game is Leave it better than how you found it. Right. And we know this because this is how we're taught when you go hiking. They say what leave it better than how you found it when you go camping. What do they say? Leave it better than how you found it and to wrap up. Peter Spoto: Yes. Wow. Boo! Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): All of this, you know that you're supposed to leave it better than you found it because the day you become a parent, that is your life goal. Peter Spoto: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So when you go and you get these people that are blinded by money, blinded by checks, blinded by power, blinded by all those things, all those things that Peter just got done talking about the administration that's in charge right now. All the crooks, all that stuff. This is what it looks like when you let them take over. I'm talking you Christians too, because you Christians are getting outlandish. Peter Spoto: Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You Christians are scaring people away from God Himself. Peter Spoto: Yes. Absolutely. You... I... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ so then that's the, we were gonna talk about the trilogy. ⁓ Now mind you, I was high with my family. So it might, the explanation might work, it might not work. So you guys know me, there's many aspects to who I am. I'm a son, that's easy. I'm a father, that's easy. Cefore X. Plosives: you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Now the Holy Spirit is the wake that I create as I move through life. How are my decisions and my behavior affecting everyone else? That constitutes to me, constitutes the Holy Spirit. Right? When I grew up, I was told telling people how to live is not your job. That's the trilogy. That's Jesus. That's God. Jesus is the way. He's the light. That's the shortcut. If God were to play this game, He's going to play it like that. He's going be a poor guy. He's going to be telling you that money is distracting you from getting to heaven. That's how He plays the game. The way I move through life, I'm planting seeds and people are going to be saying, what's Carlos doing? What's Carlos saying? What's Carlos, how's he acting? Right? If I'm out in the streets acting a goddamn fool, eating kids, doing all kinds of crazy things, I'm distracting people from where, from leaving it better than how I found it. Peter Spoto: That is so true. mean, that is so spot on. I cannot concur more just simply because Let's just flip the switch and talk about nature for a second. The natural world. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm hmm. The laws that you cannot fight. Laws of gravity, laws of physics. Peter Spoto: You cannot fuck with nature, okay? Guess what? Guess what nature's number one rule is? The underbelly of the entire system. Leave things better. Cefore X. Plosives: you Peter Spoto: than they were yesterday. That's what nature does. So let's just take the example of oysters. Since ⁓ C4 and I worked with oysters in the past, what do oysters do? Cefore X. Plosives: And that's it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm the, I'm the, ⁓ the, the, end consumer. Cefore X. Plosives: I got a lot of scab wounds from those. Peter Spoto: Yes. Oysters. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ha Peter Spoto: Oysters clean and cleanse. One oyster literally filters 35 to 50 gallons of water a day. And their entire bio-physiological or biological purpose is to cleanse, to clean. Lobsters? Same fucking thing. Guess what lobsters do? Why are they on the bottom? Cefore X. Plosives: Thank Peter Spoto: They're on the bottom because they're cleaning up all the shit. So in the past, yes, so no one in the past wanted to eat lobsters because they said, this, these lobsters, this is food that was fed to prisoners in, you know, in the early days of the colonies. They didn't even want to eat it because this is prisoners. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, they're sea roaches. That's why people kept breaking rules and going to jail. They wanted to eat good. Cefore X. Plosives: ⁓ yeah. Peter Spoto: Hey, what do you fucking lobster, man? What do you think? Cefore X. Plosives: Do you have any drawn butter? Peter Spoto: Yeah So, so. Okay, even though we are, when I say we, I'm talking about immature, undeveloped, uninformed, unengaged, unconscious human beings, even though we are just fucking up this world royally, guess what? Nature without saying a word, not even judging us. is cleaning it up. Trying. That's what nature is doing. Trees. The soil. Everything. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And when she gets tired of our bullshit, she's gonna get rid of us too. Peter Spoto: She's gonna whip us up, So we, you know, we've got this, I say maybe 50 to 80 year window. I don't know how long, but we've got this 50 to 80 year window where we can do it right as a species. Or not. And I believe From the bottom of my heart and the bottom of soul that we're seeing this ugliness on a scale that we haven't seen. Of course, we saw some pretty ugly shit in the 20th century. But this ugliness right up in our face every day. because we are being shown the most extreme example of what human beings shouldn't be like. This is like a heuristic moment, a didactic moment in history showing us the most just ugly part of human beings. Now before it could all be hidden. know, Adolf did all this shit because there was no social media. And all these things happened because there was no exposure. But guess what? Today, Everything is right in front of our eyes. We can see it all. Every minute, what people are doing. So for people to continue to lie, cheat and steal and pretend, you know, that they are something other than what everybody sees, I'm sorry, it's not gonna fly. It's just not going to fly. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And that's why you. And that's why you're starting to see they do all out blatant lies and stuff is because they know they can't hide. And this is the last gasp. Trump Trump is the last gasp of the old crooked way of doing things of hiding in the shadows of doing all that stuff. This is the peak. The lights have turned on and the roaches are scurrying. Peter Spoto: Yeah. They can't. I totally believe that. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And this is the King Roach. This is the King Rat, whatever you want to call it. He's the one. And the reason it looks so bad is because from this point back, with the exception of, you know, like all the atrocities slavery gave us and all that, that was a whole bunch of other shitty people, but we cleaned that up. And now we're here. Peter Spoto: did. Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And now we're starting to see that the emperor has no clothes and his all his cabinet is a bunch of crooks, all that stuff. And now, now this is the part where this is the part where I start to get nervous is because we're starting to see everything. And we're starting to see how crooked people were getting away with all the things. And to me, I'm a tech guy. Peter Spoto: It's so, God, it's so true. God, it's so true. Cefore X. Plosives: Okay. Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I use technology, I love technology, all the things, right? But I'm afraid because... Cefore X. Plosives: Thanks. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I've been kicking around this idea. I've been spreading it, right? I've been saying things like going top down doesn't work. Give in money to managers that then have assistant managers that and the money never quite gets down to helping the homeless people bring in costs down, of that stuff. So we go bottom up. We have a card, whether it's associated to your social security card or your voter registration or whatever. You're getting a universal basic income and we go from bottom up, right? But then in Revelations, they say that there's this thing that has a number and now the thing that you're going to, it's going to be in your wrist or on your forehead, whatever, whatever. That's when I start to get nervous about that shit. But for the most part, if we're going to address everything that's happening now with the trickle down, it wasn't a theory, it's a trick. The trickle down trick, we can fix that. Do we have the technology? Bank of America, don't let me get away with shit. Cefore X. Plosives: Right. you Peter Spoto: God, yes. Yes. No. Nope. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So we started a banking system and if you want to be in a, you know, all your citizens, all the United States citizens get their UBI and you go and you handle your business that way. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, we really got to see Trump for what he really is. He's just a slumlord. Right? He's yelling out of his window and just spewing a bunch of bullshit. And what what happens is that Peter Spoto: So. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Yeah. Peter Spoto: never been. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And what they're doing in Palestine is the same shit that they're doing that they did in downtown Chicago, that they did, they're doing on the West side is gentrification. Gentrification with bombs. But I always remind people what they're doing in Palestine is the same shit that they're doing to black and brown communities. The black and brown communities have been pushed down and they've been Peter Spoto: Yeah, basically. Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): mistreated and killed and all those things. The only thing they needed is a bomb and then you realize that they bombed Philadelphia. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Yeah. Yep. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They put Tulsa down. They put Central Park down. Peter Spoto: Slumlord, yeah, this couldn't have been said any better. know, ⁓ C4, it couldn't have been said any better. I share with you all about... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And his, ⁓ his old boy too. Peter Spoto: Yeah, I share with you about Trump's grandfather. the original Slumlord. Can you imagine? you flee from Germany because you don't want to serve your country in the draft, which is what he did, comes to the United States. Yes, Friedrich, yeah. Freddy, Friedrich, escapes, okay, leaves the country, doesn't want to serve, comes to the United States, doesn't know his head from his ass, but Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. This is a grandfather, right? The grandfather? Yeah. Peter Spoto: He finds out, ⁓ people are, there's a gold rush on the West Coast. I'm going to go out there. So he goes out and sees that all these prospectors are, you know, dying because they can't find gold and desperate. And some of them find gold and they have all this money and shit. So he camps himself up in the Yukon out of the way of everybody and nobody, nobody could see what he was doing. And he starts a saloon that became a brothel. And he would only accept payment in gold dust or in gold nuggets for little girl services, basically. So he was already doing the shit that we see going on right in front of our eyes with the Epstein Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: class in the Epstein file. you know, and we'll talk about that too in, you know, just a second, because I have a very clear notion about why this group of people became who they are and did what they did. I have a very clear, clear idea about it. It just came to me in the shower this morning. was, okay. So Let's just back up and say the 1980s with Ronald Reagan is Donald Trump's generation. There has never been a more fucking egotistical generation on the face of the earth since that time of the eighties. Everybody called the eighties generation the me generation. All of them. Trump, Epstein, all of these guys. Remember this comes on the heels of the 60s flower children with all their idealism and then everybody you know realized that Cefore X. Plosives: Thank Peter Spoto: Taking drugs and shit is not going to preclude us from becoming violent and angry and mean human beings. We're going to do that whether we're taking drugs or not taking drugs. The drugs would just bring the shit out. So that all collapsed in the 70s was just this very, very disco, very, very shallow, very, very Cefore X. Plosives: Aaron. Peter Spoto: external oriented generation. And then you had the 80s people who just said, fuck it, I'm just going to be here to get take and get everything that I can. And Reagan was the beginning of that in the 80s, his being elected. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm. Peter Spoto: know Teflon Ronnie you know cut all the benefits put you know ⁓ people with mental illness closed all the you know mental health facilities all over California had people start living on the streets all these people with mental illness and substance abuse problems domestic violence sexual violence everything else, all the predation that you see in Epstein and these people. This is exactly what was normalized at that time. It just became, this is what the new elite is. This is what the new elite does. And I can tell you unequivocally that any kind of false or fake elite, I want to use the word fake chosen people. That's the word I'm going to use. False chosen people, fake people who believe that, you know, God is with them and they can do whatever the fuck they want to anybody and everybody. These people, this is, it always ends up the same way. Pedophilia, violence, sexual abuse. All of Hitler's inner circle was like that. All of Stalin, all of these fuckers who Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: And I'm not saying anything about Marxism, Leninism, I'm talking about the individuals who took these ideas and believed that they were chosen to fix humanity, fix the world. They always end up the same way. Always. Fucking Kim Jong-un. can tell you, without even going to North Korea, he's fucking kids. I know he is. Cefore X. Plosives: Thanks Peter Spoto: He has the pleasure squads with the girls and there's already stories about that. But I'm just saying that this is the result over and over again. When people get this idea that they're the chosen people and then the ego takes over that idea, this is what you end up with. You end up with fucking... Cefore X. Plosives: Mm. It's that dominance, right? Like they want to be dominant and they could see it in. Peter Spoto: Yes. Hegemony. can, could live slaves. Sure. People here to be used. They're just cattle. You know, we're the chosen people. We, we, we can do whatever the fuck we want. But these other people are just fucking chop liver, you know, meat. And so if they're lucky enough to get thrown a crumb by us, great. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: And so this is exactly what happened every time in history that people got this idea of being the chosen people and then the ego took over. The false self took over, the faults. You end up with Epstein, you end up with, know, Jelaine Maxwell, you end up with Mossad, you know, getting all these people to... do dirty shit and then saying well if you don't do what we want you to do politically then we're going to expose you and whatever I'm just saying like Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm to snitch on you. Peter Spoto: fake, chosen, fucking people. Okay? And I'm talking about... Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: And then, and and Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And that's just it. It's not that they're chosen, it's that they've convinced people, ⁓ look, because I have it so good, because my life is so easy, just do what I did. Peter Spoto: NO! Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Cefore X. Plosives: Here's the key to the door. I'll let you in. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, follow me, because life is easy. Peter Spoto: It's true. It's true. In any time... Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. And that goes back to the heart of man, right? It's sin, right? In the core, right? And then so everything that's in the heart for them is just exploding out of every pore of their body, right? And now people are, because of social media, they're able to see the mirror, right? Because now they were, before they were looking at Trump yelling out of a window. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: No question. Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: And now we're seeing the mirror. seeing every nasty part of a human being, which is us, in him. And then, so it's starting to eat inside of us. So some of it inside of us before, like from the jump and some, takes a minute to see what evil identifies them with them the most. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And it's interesting that guess what today is, fellas? Guess what is being recognized or not celebrated, but honored about today, April 24th? Guess what day this marks for a certain community in the world? This is the day that marks the first acknowledgement of the genocide that happened to the Armenians. by the Turks. This is called Remembrance Day. So my store is closed because it's owned by Lebanese Armenian. They call it Remembrance Day. everybody says, why would people do this to the Armenian people? Why would they do this to Jews? And the answer to me is crystal clear. And that is If one has this notion of chosenness. And we misuse and abuse that election that we've been called to be. This is the result. And I'm not saying that ⁓ anybody deserves it. They didn't. Nobody deserves this kind of horrific criminality and stuff. You know, I believe from the bottom of my heart. Yeah, I believe that I was called and chosen too. But what does that entail? That's the question. And the question is, if I don't keep my eyes on Jesus washing his disciples' feet, I can easily lose sight of what it is that I'm called to do as a called or chosen person. as an awakened person or as a conscious person. And believe me, every step of the way of my life has been death for my ego. And I'm not saying that in any way to, you know, trumpet what I've been through or what I have. No, I'm just saying that if a person has really been called to that to fulfill that destiny. What you're being called to do is end the default self, end the egoic self. Lose your life, as Jesus said. He who seeks to lose their life will gain it. He who seeks to gain their life will lose it. Everybody missed that whole, they all want the gold and the... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: the gold toilets and the 747s and yeah, I'm good. know, look at my life. Yeah, like Carlos was sharing. Look at my life. Look at how good I have it. So just, you know, follow me and listen to me and do whatever I tell you to do and everything's going to, your life is going to end up like that. But I'm sorry to say that's a misnomer. What is... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): you Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: By calling Ben, since I was 19 years old when I felt called by God or chosen by God to live a life, to live the life that I'm living or trying to live every day, I've been called to eat shit. That's what I've been called to do. And I've been called to eat shit and say, I've been invited to a heavenly banquet. And I'm not saying that in any way to disparage, know, hardship or whatever. I'm just saying that ending the ego and ending violence within ourselves that we do to ourselves and to other people, it's a big, it's a big job, man. It's a it's a tough calling. It's not easy. And so, you know, everyone Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: at the time of Jesus, they just wanted to use him for their own purposes. That's what they wanted to do. We can use this guy, this fucking guy who's the Messiah, the prophet or whoever he is, we can use him for our purposes. He tells cool stories. Yeah, and he feeds people with fishes and he heals people. He's a magician. Yeah, exactly. The magic Jesus we talked about. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He tells cool stories when he talks people listen. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: He's a magician. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see if he does ad sales. Peter Spoto: Let's see if he does ad sales exactly. Let's see if he'll help help my crypto account grow. Let's see if he'll extricate all the people that I don't like and, oh yeah, I got bombs to do that. Let's extricate all of them and have a new real estate project on the Palestinian Riviera and on and on and on and on. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ha ha ha! Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. you Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Right here by this really pretty water. Yeah. Peter Spoto: and they couldn't use him. They couldn't control him. So there was only one thing left to do. That was kill him. They couldn't use him so they had to. He was a threat. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. is constantly the opposite. They're jealous. Peter Spoto: scared, scared. You know, flipping tables. What does it mean? It means who is fucking Netanyahu? And I hope he hears this. He's the most frightened, terrified Jew on the face of the earth. And that's why he is and that's why he behaves the way he does. And I'm not condemning him as a Jew because I have Jewish blood in my vein. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He kept snitching on them. You're doing it wrong. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah ⁓ Peter Spoto: I'm saying that's what happens when Jewish faith runs amok. You know, he's most scared person. Cefore X. Plosives: Is Stephen Miller, is Stephen Miller our net in Yahoo? Peter Spoto: Yeah he is. These fuckers are all King Herod, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Say what? Cefore X. Plosives: Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller is our Netanyahu. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Stephen Miller is what? Peter Spoto: He is, he's our immigration guy. I have never seen a ⁓ better reenactment of King Herod and Punch's pilot that we see going on right now in Trump's White House. And so the interesting thing is that Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That makes sense. Yeah, for real, huh? ⁓ the throwback, that's an amazing analogy. Peter Spoto: It's true! Netanyahu! Netanyahu is King Herod who's using the Roman Empire and using the Roman army and using the Roman assets and using the Roman tax money that we all paid, you know, for his bidding. So make no mistake about Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It is true. Yeah. Wow. Peter Spoto: it. MAGA and these f***ers are crucifying Jesus f***ing day that they are around, every day. Who ⁓ ICE? Who are these people who are doing this? They are crucifying Jesus. What they're doing to immigrants ⁓ the crucifixion of Jesus Christ reenacted. What they did to Native people, Native indigenous people, is the f***ing crucifixion of Jesus Christ every fucking day. What they did to black slaves, putting them on ships and things, was crucifying Jesus every fucking day in saying it's okay. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: And it's not okay. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: No, even in pilot, pilot knew that ⁓ Jesus did nothing wrong. He knew it, but he was like, I'm gonna do this shit anyway. I don't care. Peter Spoto: I get a lot, I get a- Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): No, to the point where they held up a crook, a murderer, and Jesus. Peter Spoto: Yes! Yes! YES! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and say, you guys pick. Cefore X. Plosives: for rabbes, right? Peter Spoto: Trump! They fucking picked Trump, man! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): for watching. They pick Trump. They keep picking Trump. Cefore X. Plosives: Woo! Peter Spoto: They picked Donald Trump. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, and we're not saying that Joe Biden was Jesus. We're not saying that. If anything, he was more like Lazarus. Cefore X. Plosives: Choose your Messiah. Peter Spoto: No! No, no, no. Joe Biden and the, not the progressive Democrats, but the liberal Democrats, I should say the Democrats, the mainstream Democrats, they set the stage for Netanyahu and Israel to be doing what they're doing. They set the table for us. APAC, APAC. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): because they're getting paid. Yeah, we've learned that. We've had so many conversations with all these folks saying that PAC just PACs in general. Like they're paying both sides of the argument. So how are normal people going to win when the game is rigged? Peter Spoto: They are! Yes! It's true! Cefore X. Plosives: And then they'll be like, look, buy these, you know, donate to these lost puppies. Like they need to find homes. And then all the money you donate is to fucking Israel. Peter Spoto: Yes! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And then Kristi Gnomes is shooting puppies in the face. Peter Spoto: So, listen, man. So let's go back to, know, Fidel, you know, Fidel was not a student, but he was in the law school where my grandfather was a professor. That fucker was smart, man. He was fucking smart. Now, what Cefore X. Plosives: with all of you. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, you can't pull off what he pulled off by you being an idiot. Peter Spoto: What he did, he played both sides to get what he got. So I don't know if you know the history of gambling in Cuba, but. Cefore X. Plosives: And thank Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We touched on this just yesterday, huh, Mike? Peter Spoto: The Mafia was having a hard time in establishing gambling in the country. So they went out to Vegas and they built Vegas. I have family members who worked in the pit, were pit bosses and worked on the first casinos out there, Sicilians. The Sicilians knew Havana and Cuba was there. was their backup plan in case Vegas didn't work out. So there were all kinds of casinos that had planted seeds already and were developed in Havana and all over, you know, around the city of Havana and Cuba. And fucking Fidel promised them, if you money me, if you money my camp, you know, my army and my campaign, I'll let your casinos stay open. So he got money from the mafia to do what he did. And then he shut those fuckers down and kicked them out of Cuba in two seconds. and he Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, because he didn't want like what people don't understand is he didn't want his people living like that in service of a bunch of corrupt people. Peter Spoto: No, he didn't! Batista and those people were just so ugly. Yes. So my grandfather wasn't in Batista's pocket. And so ⁓ it was so, so evil how Cuba had just become a slave plantation country with a few elite people with all this money and power. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Paid off. Paid off. Yeah. Peter Spoto: in families with all this elite money and power. You know, the Bacardi family got their, they grew their sugar there, not in Puerto Rico. First, they were in fucking Cuba. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. As a matter of fact, they were making, they were making Bacardi in Cuba. And then when Fidel took over, they moved that shit to Puerto Rico. Peter Spoto: Of course they were. They had to move out. The same with tobacco, the same with the cigar rollers. The fat cats weren't making enough money. So, Ebor left Cuba and he went to Key West and built a cigar factory. And that didn't work out well because he had labor issues there and he went to Tampa, Florida and built cigar factories. And there were over a hundred of them in Tampa. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: people rolling Havana. Huh? Yeah. Ybor City. Okay. Ybor City. Guess what? Ybor City was full of fucking socialists and anarchists who left from Spain and from Sicily and they went to fucking Tampa. Nobody wanted to live in that shit hole. Alligator infested, mosquito, cholera. Cefore X. Plosives: Is that Ybor City? Is that Ybor City? Peter Spoto: You know, all this stuff. Nobody. Those immigrants built that city. That city was built by Sicilian and Spanish immigrants who are all anti-fascists and they were all mostly socialists and anarchists. And they went and built that community. That was the highest. I'm not kidding you about this, Look at this book, The Immigrant World of Ybor City. This is Gary Morimura. You read this book. The highest paid laborers in the United States at that time were cigar workers. Highest wage, highest wage of workers were cigar workers. You want to know why? Because they unionized. You want to know how strong their union was? It was so powerful. only, only, I mean, the life that these people were living, all of them could build houses, all of them could provide for their families, all of them could start businesses out of people rolling cigars in a cigar factory. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And while we're here, I believe it was right around this time when the Cuban sandwich was created. Peter Spoto: That's right. That is right. I do. Cefore X. Plosives: You got a vote for that, P-Dubbs? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hahaha Cefore X. Plosives: No shit. I don't doubt it. Peter Spoto: Come on, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Boom. Peter Spoto: Cuban Sandwich, a history in layers. Cefore X. Plosives: Yes. ⁓ man, I love it man. I love it. Peter Spoto: Okay, so what's so exceptional about that community? None of my family members told me any of this shit. I had to find this out on my own. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: These fucking guys who worked in these cigar factories had enough money where they could get Cuban coffee brought to their workstation by a guy who went around and poured everybody Cuban coffee. Five days a week or six days a however. Fuck yeah, man, they do. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hey, they still did that shit. When I lived in Miami, I worked at the Blue Cross and Blue Shield down there. And every afternoon they had the little dude that would come around with a little coffee and serve you coffee. Production skyrocketed in the afternoon, Peter Spoto: Yeah. Yeah. Dude, listen, so... Cefore X. Plosives: That was... I was like, that was blue. Peter Spoto: Absolutely. So they had this guy would be this guy would be outside at the end of the week on payday. He knew every person in that factory and how many cups they had. So they tried to cheat his ass. ⁓ yeah, I only had seven cups. He says, no, no, no, I got eight on my, you know, he knew every single person, how many cups they had that week. And he would charge them and they'd pay. Now the most amazing part of the story is this. Guess who else they paid? They paid a lector! to sit all day and read to the workers. Guess what they read? Guess what they read to the workers. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's beautiful. Peter Spoto: Marx Exactly They read fucking they read Tolstoy Marx Lenin ⁓ Das Kapital ⁓ Dante's Inferno these lectors They would read they would read newspapers. They would read publications all day while the workers work Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): The art of the deal. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah Peter Spoto: And they all contributed money to pay this lector to do this while they were working, while they were rolling cigars all day. They didn't need a fucking boom box. They had a fucking person reading all day. These lectors were some of the highest paid people in that, in that, in that, in those neighborhoods. Accidentally educated. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's what I'm talking about. and educated, accidentally educated. Cefore X. Plosives: It was the original audiobook. Peter Spoto: Exactly. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): This is back in the day, your audio books where you had a backpack with a little person in there and they'd be reading books to you. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Hell yeah. The Lavatar. So what was important to them was Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): as you're walking to work in the mines. Just hanging on like you're about to go to Thunderdome. Cefore X. Plosives: She's just like this. Peter Spoto: What was important to them was class consciousness and awareness and education and dignity. Man, on Saturdays, on Sundays, these guys would go out dressed to the nines. Opera, theater, everywhere, all over that town. You know, it was amazing the kind of lifestyle that they had. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ yeah. Peter Spoto: And it all disappeared because cigar factory became automated, cigar rolling became automated, and then everything went to the shitter. Each of these fucking cigar factories had a baseball team. They sent many, many players to the major leagues, these Cuban baseball teams. And it wasn't just Cubans. It was Puerto Ricans. was Sicilians. was ⁓ Asturianos and Galicianos from Spain. All of these people, just amazing, amazing history. And I just wanted to crack some of my family members. You're sitting on this story. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ yeah. Hell yeah they did. Hell yeah they did. Peter Spoto: and nobody knows it? The fuck is wrong with you? know, so anyway, anyway, you know, ⁓ just to segue back to Trump and the ugliness in the 80s and this these monsters that were created out of Reagan and Reagan, Republicanism, you know. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): you Peter Spoto: There's the Hab Not. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And if you look at the cycle, it's usually like that, right? The 70s, the 70s were kind of tough. You know, violence is crazy. Like people, the government and local government was run on like paper and pen. Like we didn't have fax machines. That's how slow things went. So you can get away with things, but then hard times creates easy times. And so the eighties got a little bit easier. And so people got gluttonous. And then if you pay attention to the media in the seventies, we had what was called the fairness doctrine. So if you had a program that talked about left side of the issues, you had to have a representative for the right side of the issues. So fair and balanced was way easier back then, but then in the seventies, they did away with that shit. in the eighties, you started to see the separation of American values. Cefore X. Plosives: Thank Peter Spoto: ⁓ The norm. Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And then you started you started watching more violence, ⁓ more, you know, like ⁓ Rocky was all about Rocky. Rambo was all about Rambo. It wasn't about this team of people that had to go and storm the beaches of Normandy. It was me, myself and I. Peter Spoto: Yep, yep, yep the hero Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): then you mix in there some, then you start mixing in there some bullshit with the stock market and all that stuff, because we just got pulled off the gold standard. So that means we're buying shit on opinion. and then you start having your, then you start having your, the Rambo thing and all that stuff. The same thing started happening with all the movies that had to do with real estate and investing. You had your Rambo guy that said, greed is good. That's Rambo in a suit. Peter Spoto: Yeah, it's true. The Wolf of Wall Street. Cefore X. Plosives: Hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Wolf of Wall Street, thank you. You know? So our vision of what America was supposed, the United States was supposed to be started getting clouded because that's where you start to see the influence of money and the influence of media was then. Peter Spoto: It's so true. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We started getting away from educational stuff. started getting TV. We used to learn shit on TV on accident. Peter Spoto: Yes. FUCKING SESAME STREET MAN! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Thank you. Sesame Street. Electric Company. ⁓ Magic... Yeah. Peter Spoto: God, magic school bus. You'll know the science guy. All of this shit, it's true. Cefore X. Plosives: Mr. Rogers, simple, basic. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): All of that stuff. Mr. Rogers, all that stuff was showing you what a good person was and the greedy fuckers with the money, they're the ones that started coming out with this bullshit about Wolf of Wall Street and it's me, me, me and greed is good and all that stuff. That's how we got here. We started convincing people that Peter Spoto: Yeah, Rogers. Yes, yes, it's so. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I mean, shit was segregated already. You can't blame TV and movies for all of it, but we can definitely blame it for the amplification of the stupidity that we see. Peter Spoto: No. No question, no question. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And now they're not just attacking the United States. They are attacking truth. They're attacking reality. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yes. It's true. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And again, we've been shown it's all about me. Here in the United States, it's all about me. What can I get away with? What can I go get? I'm going to go get mine. Me and my friends, right? and then you need something like September 11th to wake you up and be like, ⁓ it's us. Peter Spoto: and Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and then you have 2008. It's us. We're in this together and you morons continue to pick Barabbas. Peter Spoto: Yep. We are. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Exactly. And it's interesting that we'll segue back into the Father Son, the Holy Spirit, you know, conversation and that is. If we think about... the natural world, nature. You put your fucking hands in the soil and guess what? It's a system. It's not individual parts. So. The... microbiologists have learned now. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And let's put this out there. When you're putting your hands in the soil, the system that Pete is talking about, if you only have dirt, it's gonna be hard to grow anything. If you have soil, the proper system with the worms and the decomposing and the, the, and the. Peter Spoto: Yeah. Yes. Yes. So it's the system that this is being talked about more, the microbiome in the soil. So what is happening? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It's a system. Peter Spoto: between trees in my backyard. There's a system of spores, mold, roots, worms, all these things that establish, yeah, that have, you know, bacteria. They've established a network so that trees are communicating with each other. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Moss. Peter Spoto: So if a tree is being fucked over by something, you know, natural thing, it'll actually send messages to the other trees, you know, be on alert for this. So we're not only finding this system in soil, we're finding the system too in our biology, in our gut, in our physical health too. to the point where oncology doctors, cancer doctors, what they're saying is, what is cancer? Cancer is actually one cell that begins to be cut off in communications with other cells. One, miscommunication between cells. And so the cancer thinks, I'm the only cell and so I gotta grow and I gotta replicate and I gotta do this and I gotta do that otherwise I'm not gonna survive so that's what a tumor is. It's one cell that has become disconnected communication wise from the entire system of the body. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): one cell that bought a red MAGA hat. Peter Spoto: one cell that bought a red MAGA hat, one cell that you know just started pimping cryptocurrency, one cell that gave birth to all these dickhead children who think that they're there you know God's gift to the cosmos when they're in fact such sad ugly people. So Cefore X. Plosives: Thanks. Peter Spoto: we're finding now when we talk about Father, Son, the Holy Spirit. Yes, we know what the Father is. Yes, we know what it means to be a son because we're all fathers and all sons. But the Holy Spirit, that's the part that we, the mystery, we don't understand. And I will argue that the Holy Spirit is akin to the feminine, Shekinah part of God, of God's nature, of the God, the Creator. Meaning that That is the system is what the Holy Spirit is all about, the connectivity between everything, because that's what the Holy Spirit is. It's the connectivity. It's the network. It's the connection. And so... Just think about this shit for a second. One cell has about 20 to 30 mitochondria in the cell. Mitochondria is like the producer of energy. It's like the solar panel for the cell. The mitochondria, 20 or 30. Are you ready for this? One mother's egg, the ovum of a mom, has 600,000 mitochondria in it. One egg. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): So that electric bill is cheap. Peter Spoto: What does that? shit man okay so we got shortchanged on ourselves did we you so Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hahaha Peter Spoto: What happens when conception takes place? The male information, the male sperm goes to the egg, penetrates the fertilization of the egg. And at the moment of fertilization, something happens biochemically, biologically. It's called the zinc flash. There's just literally this flash of light. And there are cameras, not cameras, yeah, what the fuck is this? There's cameras that have captured this action in the uterus inside the womb of a female, of a mom, this moment of action. So scientists say that that moment of conception, the zinc flash moment, the The release of energy is greater than what's released from the Sun. But it's again, it's on a one cell level, one to one cell. Can you imagine that? One cell combining with another cell, this magical thing happens. Energy is released. It's comparable to the sun's energy. Cefore X. Plosives: said it releases billions of zinc atoms. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yes. So. I would argue that the Holy Spirit is the connectivity, the system that links everything together. when we're united, when we're connected with that Holy Spirit, we have connectivity with things that are above and beyond us, beyond my pay grade as an individual, so to speak. So. Cefore X. Plosives: And this goes to like everything that we've talked about, like the sowing of the seeds, the energy that we give off and people feed off of. This is everything that we talk about. we as human beings, as good people, we're supposed to leave it better than we left it. So therefore we're leaving good energy to people. So when we leave that moment, hopefully it resonates and fertilizes. Peter Spoto: Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! Cefore X. Plosives: and create something that will make change for the better. Peter Spoto: YES! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Look at how much of a blessing. Look at how much of a blessing our brains are. The older you, the older you get, you only remember the good times. You don't remember. I mean, you can remember the bad times and stuff, but readily available. The older you get, you only remember. That's why it's easy for people to go back with exes that they've hung out with before. Peter Spoto: Yeah! Yes. No question. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): because the time you only remember the good times and you forget why you broke up. Peter Spoto: No question, no question. And so what does this formula point to? Just as Mike was saying, life. So in one sense the Jews got it right when they say Lahayn, you know, to life. And Muslims got it right with Assalamu alaikum, know, ⁓ peace be upon you, the peace of the Prophet. There's just, there's no great area. We're either giving life or we're taking it away. And when I say that, I'm not talking about the natural flow of life. Things are dying all the time. But things are also being recreated, new, newness every minute too. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about death. And when I say death, I mean spiritual death. I mean death of the consciousness, death of the soul, death of the sacred, death of the holy, death of the beauty. in human nature, death of the loving part. these folks that we see who are parading around saying that they're championing life are actually just not only prophets of death, they are purveyors of death. When Trump came into my brother's restaurant, he was in the middle of his divorce with Ivana in the eighties. I asked my brother, Ivana used to always come in and bring Ivanka there. And my brother prepared a high chair and all of this before he had his own place, his own restaurant. Ivana was kind of a semi-decent person, he said. But Trump came in one time when he was in the middle of his divorce. He was disheveled, his hair was fucked up. And I said to my, asked my brother, what was it like when he came into your, restaurant, Charlie's Crab? It was a Chuck Muir restaurant. He used the word death. That's what he said. Trump walked in. It was like death walked into my restaurant. That's what he said. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm. Mm. Peter Spoto: So all these phony balonies who are saying, talking about life and using the name of Jesus and you know, they're just fucking purveyors of fucking death. Pretending that it's life when it's not. When all these fuckers who think that, ⁓ you know, yeah, prophets of death, is it all these fuckers who think, well, after... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. False gods, false prophets. Peter Spoto: after everybody kills them, and humanity's kills itself off, you know, I'm going to make a lot of money from that and then I'm going to have my little bunker, my survival bunker somewhere. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): so you can be eating canned goods for the next 10 to 15 years. And that's just the beginning. Peter Spoto: You know, I mean... They'll be dead in five fucking days is what they'll be. Cefore X. Plosives: Oop. When I hear when I hear when I hear he wants he's trying to push the bunker, you know, right now and through court. It's like it's like the kid that wants to live in his mom's basement. You know what I'm saying? Like the next president is going to come in, but he's going to be downstairs and he's going to be like, ⁓ those are just my roommates. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: Yes. I Cefore X. Plosives: Hahaha Peter Spoto: Amazing, amazing. So yes, so this is what people do. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You guys ever see the movie called Parasite? I think it's on Netflix, you should check it out, Parasite. It's about this whole family that lives in the basement of this house. Peter Spoto: ⁓ yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: I know I won an award, I know it. Yeah, I could see Trump being a parasite. Peter Spoto: So this is what people didn't understand about Jesus. They tried to snuff him out, they tried to extinguish his life, and it didn't work. It didn't work. It was a miserable failure. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I mean, he's the main character. He's the main character in the best selling book ever. Peter Spoto: Holy God, man. I don't think that there's one human being, well there's probably a couple, you know, the amount of impact that this one physical specimen had, who was 33 years old when he died, the amount of impact that this one guy had, holy shit man. I mean... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: I can't fuck with Jesus. I'm sorry. No matter how much I would like to or try, I'm sorry. When I say that, I mean, you know what I'm saying. I'm saying that I gotta take Him seriously. He's a force to be reckoned with. He's formidable. His message, His life, His death, His resurrection, all this stuff. I'm sorry, man. I gotta pay attention, man. can't just, you know, put it away in a file somewhere. So anyway. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, I get, I get questioned a lot on like, ⁓ a friend of mine, he, he was my best friend, I guess my other ⁓ dynamic duo of the Mike Slingers, right? It recently he's been questioning and almost like ⁓ throwing a lot of stuff in my face, right? They'll call me he's not, he's going through a lot of shit right now. But he's everything is like, ⁓ the pastor, you're the pastor, you know, I don't want to say these things and this and this. He's just like, any chance he gets at the end of every sentence, he's throwing a dagger down. And I told him, because he's like, ⁓ we, know, through spirituality, through our faith, we need to follow what's inside and not and not God or whatever, whatever he's throwing out. And my thing is this, me myself as a believer, I'd rather believe and be wrong than not believe and be right. Right. Because if Peter Spoto: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. You're going to have a good life either way. Cefore X. Plosives: If I believe in heaven, right, and either way, I'm okay. You know what I'm saying? Like, and if I'm okay, and I end up in heaven, then cool. But if I'm like, are we having a hell here and that's it, and then I'm a dickhead, then you just, you just, you just shorted yourself from eternity. Right? And like, there's these people that are throwing, throwing religion around, like it's, like it's a, like it's a bad recipe. You know I'm saying for like macaroni and cheese, some shit, right? Peter Spoto: to Yeah. Yeah. Cefore X. Plosives: You gotta put some love in that. It's not just something you could whip together and just be, you like you have to strive and put everything into it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And you have to keep making that mac and cheese. Everybody says they can make mac and cheese, but not everybody can make mac and cheese. Cefore X. Plosives: It is a discipline. Peter Spoto: Exactly. Cefore X. Plosives: Right, this ain't a box. Add the powder. You know, no. Peter Spoto: So exactly. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, that ain't it. You gotta have at least five cheeses. Peter Spoto: Exactly. And so, and let's shift to religious deconstructivism because this is perfect. So what does it really mean? What it means is you can't fucking deconstruct Jesus. You can't. It's impossible. Just try. Try to fucking deconstruct Jesus. and you cannot because what he did, who he was. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Nobody can explain. How can anybody explain that a 33 year old young person who, you know, got hung up and killed could have this kind of impact on billions and billions and billions of people for thousands of years? Who can explain that? Please tell me by logic or by reason or even by you know, I forgot all my deconstructivism terminologies. ⁓ the hermeneutic of suspicion. Okay. The hermeneutic of suspicion means question everything, okay? Go ahead and try to question who Jesus was and is even now in this moment that we're alive. I'm sorry. Be my guest. Try. You will not succeed. I don't care who you are. And the reason why is because And this kind of gets into the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which Carlos had asked about. Jesus understood what that book was about because he knew exactly what he was supposed to do after his physical life ended. Cefore X. Plosives: as well. Peter Spoto: You know what he did? exactly what the Book of the Dead told people to do. Well, the Book of the Dead, Egyptian Book of the Dead said, ⁓ you got to do all this song and dance, otherwise you're going to be fucked up on the other side once you're dead. That's what the Book of the Dead really is about, to be honest. If we were to condense it into a nutshell. After you die, you need to do X, Y, and Z, then you're going to be OK. Your eternal life is going to be OK. So. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hey Pete, back, go back about two minutes, because you're breaking up pretty bad, at least for me. Mike, did you say? Okay. Peter Spoto: Yeah. ⁓ sorry. Okay. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, right, right, right when you started talking about the Book of the Dead. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah. Peter Spoto: Okay, yeah, Book of the Dead will short circuit any internet connection, so any connectivity, I get it. So, the Book of the Dead, what is the book? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We got to wait for his internet to catch up. So basically to get you caught up, the reason I learned about the Egyptian book of the dead was I was in a conversation about the Israelites leaving Egypt and all this stuff. And, and my question was why Why leave? Well, not why leave like because they were enslaved. That's why you would want to leave. ⁓ why were they like I wanted to know the other side of the story. Like did the Egyptians did the Egyptians think that Peter Spoto: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the Israelites were asking for too many vacation days. Were they asking for fucking health insurance? You see what I'm saying? Like a lot like what's happening today. Like were they asking for like equality? And then like what was that dynamic? Because there's a power structure in place and. Peter Spoto: Right? That's it. Sure. Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): If you're on the bottom side of that power structure, you want to be gone. So I wanted a clearer picture as to both sides of the argument. Like what's going on here? someone had told me about, Richard told me about the Egyptian book of the dead. And so when I knew Peter was coming on, I was like, yes, let's get to that. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yes. Yeah. That's it. That's an amazing, amazing context to be able to talk about the Israelites in Egypt. And that is... what you described is precisely what happened. over time those hard, hard-ass workers were demanding more. and they wanted better food. They wanted better lodgings. Cefore X. Plosives: and we'll Peter Spoto: They wanted healthcare. They wanted medical. They wanted benefits. It's absolutely what happened. Yes, so. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It's a cycle. It's a cycle that just keeps repeating. Cefore X. Plosives: So. Peter Spoto: So here's what happened. Now remember, Moses was an adopted kid who was raised as an Egyptian. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: And he found out who he was, that he was not, he was a Hebrew. And when he saw the Hebrew slaves being beaten up and shit, he killed an Egyptian. He killed an Egyptian. And the word spread that Moses killed an Egyptian. Cefore X. Plosives: So, the first thing that you want to know is what's Peter Spoto: And nobody thought about, God, why would he do that? He's got all these, but he himself is living the life of a prince. Why would he do that? But this scared the people, scared the Hebrew people, scared the Israelite people, scared them. God, this guy's violent. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And to be thorough, Moses was an Israelite that was put in a basket and sailed down the river because they were killing babies. Peter Spoto: That's it. Yep. killing babies, exactly. And he was found and raised as a prince, literally as an Egyptian prince, even though he was. So when he killed that Egyptian, it fucked everybody's head up and they didn't realize, you know, God, why would he do that? He was angry about his people being treated this way. So they couldn't, they didn't leave at that time because they were still. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, as an Egyptian prince, yeah. Peter Spoto: frightened about him and about his leadership. So they demanded more and more and more. What they needed was a leader. So then the story is that then he did all these miracles and calamities and then the Pharaoh and everything says, just get the fuck out of here. You guys are a fucking pain in the ass. Fuck, get the fuck out. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You're not worth the trouble. Peter Spoto: not worth the trouble anymore. Okay. You want good food, you want good housing, you want medical care, you want schooling for your kids, you want to have transportation through and from work. Yeah, you can't get the fuck out. So when they left the extra biblical writings that talk about the Exodus from Egypt, guess what they did? Cefore X. Plosives: How dare you. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You don't want us killing your babies. Peter Spoto: They plundered and robbed the shit out of the fucking Egyptians. Because they felt, they did! They felt they were owed money. because of all these years of unpaid labor. So they plundered the hell out of... ⁓ They wanted reparations. They wanted reparations. So they leave with all the stuff that they took. Pharaoh finally hears what happened and he's fucking pissed. So everybody thinks, ⁓ he just wanted to go get them because, you know, he missed his sleep. No. Cefore X. Plosives: They want a reparations. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): reparations. He just wanted his shit back. Peter Spoto: He wanted his shit back! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Give back my TV, bitch. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Peter Spoto: Get my fucking big screen, man. You fucking took my 76 inch big screen. So he goes after me. Put my chair on cranks, Shit. Cefore X. Plosives: You put my chariot on crates. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Grand Theft Chariot. Cefore X. Plosives: You Peter Spoto: What are you doing to my chariot, man? I want a chariot of fire and I got no wheels on this thing. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): as spinners are gone. Peter Spoto: I got, I got, I got, I got no spinners on my sled, bad. My sled is busted. So he, Pharaoh goes after them and the rest is his, the rest is the story. Moses parts the Red Sea. The thing that happened was there was some tidal bore, some shit, and they could walk across and then. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Ha ha ha! Peter Spoto: the title board decides, we're done now, everybody's across, and the title board ends, and then all the water comes and fucking destroys the Pharaoh's army. So, yeah, they basically were taking what they felt they were owed. And they left, and they took off. And that's exactly what happened. And if you don't, you can research any of the extra biblical writings that... The Talmud, you know, the Nibrash, all these Jewish writings that talk about this. That's exactly what happened. So they, the people were demanding more and more, but they didn't have a leader until finally they realized Moses isn't going to fuck us up and kill us. So we'll go with him. But they, they didn't like him. They didn't trust him. They fucking bitched and moaned the whole fucking way. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the whole time. Why do you think it took 40 years to get from here to there? Peter Spoto: They were fucking- Because they were fucking bitching, man! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're bitching the whole time. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Will you shut your ass up? Peter Spoto: No, they said, we want our food back, man. We miss that Egyptian, know, tostores, man. We did the fucking arpo pollo in Egypt. They missed the fricassee. Yeah, they missed the congurri. They missed the fricassee in Egypt, man. They were tired of manna and quail every day. They were fucking. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Papi, de tal con Gris? Peter Spoto: up to their ears with it. And everybody thinks, ⁓ Moses is, you know, Moses is fucking an angry motherfucker. He was fucking angry because he had to deal with this shit every fucking day. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, and he had a stutter. And he had a stutter. Peter Spoto: And then he got so mad he struck the rock twice and then God told him you can't make it in to the you can't cross the river you can see it but you can't cross because he was fucking pissed all the complaining and shit Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Isn't that tough? Isn't that tough? Yeah. Peter Spoto: So Joshua and the rest. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And that if you did all that work and God is like, bro, stop hitting that rock. He's like, no, these people are complainers. ⁓ Son, you can't go, you don't pay attention to rules, my guy. Peter Spoto: I know. Strike it once, the water will come. He kept bashing on that fucking rock, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I told you no. When are you going to learn? Peter Spoto: So exactly, so again, this segues into Jesus and the Book of the Dead and that is... What made Jesus so extraordinary? After he went to the other side, according to the biblical records, where did he go? He to fucking hell. First, he went to hell. Did he have to go to hell? No, but he did. What the fuck do you think he was doing? He was gonna say, where you at, bros? What's cracking down here? It's all you got. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): He went down there to tell Satan, hi, your mama's a hoe. That's all you got. I'm back bitch. Peter Spoto: And so that's why it was three days before he was resurrected because he started there and told them, do you want to see the light of God? This is the light of God. He started down in the low. Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ hang on, hang on. You want do you want my theory? You want my theory as to why he rose on the Sunday? Peter Spoto: Jump on it! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): because the seventh day is the Sabbath. If you raise from the dead on the Sabbath, how much more work can you do? I think, I think they killed him on a Friday. He chilled on the Saturday, because it's a holy day. And then he rose on a Sunday. Peter Spoto: There you go! I like that. I like that. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's me. That's just me. Again, that's why it's important. That's why it's important to live in a democracy that lets you study, that lets you read all the books, that lets you that that's why it's important. To me, I grew up, Saturday was the holy day. And to me, I don't know if Seventh-day Adventists believe that or not. I don't know. This is me, my own searching, my own thing. Jesus took it. He took Cefore X. Plosives: You let it marinate for a minute. You let it marinate. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yeah, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the, he kept the holy day holy. And then on Sunday we popped back off. Let's go. Peter Spoto: pop back off. I make such sense. And so then you think about Who did he appear to first? not as disciples, His lady, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): His lady, his lady, his lady. The one that was holding him up this whole time. His boy sold him out. His girl was like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Cefore X. Plosives: There you go. Peter Spoto: That means, what does it mean? It she understood you shit. She understood him. She understood his shit better than anybody else. And so then she went to the disciples and said, guess what? He's back. He's here. And they all said, Cefore X. Plosives: I got you, I love you anyway. guys from Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): J.C.' back, all right. Peter Spoto: They all said, fuck you. And they're arguing with her. They didn't believe her. And then finally, Peter said, no, this is for real. This is no bullshit. So why does he go to appear to the woman? because she represents the Holy Spirit. connectivity. Not the boys. She does. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): No, no. Cefore X. Plosives: They all denied him. All the boys denied him and backstabbed him. Peter Spoto: All the boys denied it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): One of them sold them out for gold. Silver. Silver. Peter Spoto: Yeah. They thought, they thought that exactly. There's also some writings that say that Judas Iscariot, he was in charge of the money for the disciples. That he thought that because Jesus was God and Jesus was a Messiah, he can get the 30 pieces of silver and stuff it in his, you know, bag and that Jesus is going to bail his ass out on his own. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm not visiting you. Stupid. trying to be slick. He's trying to play both sides. Peter Spoto: Yeah, so he wanted to get the puck. He was trying to play both sides. And then when it didn't work out, he got, know, the shit all hit the fan for him. And he was like, oh, that was not a smart move on my part. Anyway, it's pretty amazing that if we unpack some of this stuff. There's so much more to the story, isn't there? So much more. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): and how much more relevance there is in what's happening today. Peter Spoto: Yes! Cefore X. Plosives: So like in in so it's funny in Bible study, literally right now we're reading john john 19. Right? We just finished john 19, which is the burial. And then the next chapter 20 is when Mary goes to visit the tomb. And so the thing like, like, what's cool about our Bible studies, we go verse by verse chapter by chapter, verse by verse, and sometimes word by word, right? So like, when they say like, ⁓ Nicodemus, and Joseph took Jesus down from the cross. Well, okay, well, you can assume that like, all right, well, how did he do it? You know, they had to put the cross in the ground and raise them up, you know, like to get them there in the first place, then they pierced his hand. So they had to undo the nails. They had to figure out how to take him down. Okay, we need a ladder. Like the processes that are involved in like. little every aspect and nuance and then they placed him they placed the cloths on him with the spices and then they placed them in the tomb you know like there's like but that goes on to Jewish traditions and things like that so like ⁓ like when you when you go and really like try to unpack there is no ⁓ loss of punctuation or everything has intention You know, the verbiage, it's all intentional and it's all multiple meetings and like, it's, it's crazy. Peter Spoto: Yep. Yep. And if anyone tries to study Jesus and Jesus' life without understanding the context of what life was like at that time for the Jewish people and for those under Roman occupation, they won't see the whole picture. And Carlos was mentioning about the book of Revelation. Just to give you a little bit of a breather on this. John of Patmos was the one who received the book of Revelation. And it was clearly documented that those teachings, even though they have prophetic, clear ⁓ relationship to what's going on in our contemporary world, there's no doubt about that. The intention of that Revelation was for the leadership that was alive in the late first century and early second century after Jesus' death. So that's who that message was originally intended for. That was the audience. And I'll send you the name of the emperor who was in charge, who is that message was specifically written for by John. the beloved. So even though we can countenance and realize that yes, that revelation and the truth of those words are relevant today, which they are, but that revelation was specifically written for that time, for those leaders to warn them, you know, about, you know, what's to come. So There's a lot to be fearful about and a lot of scary shit in that fucking book, man. Let me tell you. But at the same time, Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, unless unless you understand, unless you understand that at the end of the day is going to be okay. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true. That's the promise. That is the promise. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): You know, like that's the promise. That's the true promise. The promise is it don't matter. There's a bunch of knuckleheads out here going to be doing dumb shit. I get it. But the promise is going back to something that Mike said earlier. If you live that good life, if there's a heaven, you get in. If you live a good life and there is no heaven, you still lived a good life. Cefore X. Plosives: from this. Peter Spoto: I believe with all. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm Peter Spoto: Exactly. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): but you have to understand that all these people are going to be doing dumb shit. At the end of the day, it's all going to be good. At the end of the day, when nature is tired of our bullshit, she's going to kill us off and then she's going to go and take care and she's going to do another thing. She tried the dinosaurs. Now she's trying humans. Next thing. I don't know. I don't know. Peter Spoto: I, and believe it or not. Cefore X. Plosives: Can you see how like... Peter Spoto: You go out, I'm sorry. Cefore X. Plosives: ⁓ I was just saying like you, like how, you know, the administration and all these people that are in power, they have to be godless, right? Like they have to not have a concept of. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): that's just it. is within everyone. It's the voice that you listen to. It's how much of this ego that Peter was talking about. How much of that ego are you letting drown out? That voice in the back of your head that tells you maybe I shouldn't be eating these kids. Cefore X. Plosives: there's a reverberation of their fucking own self echoing through their minds so they're drowning out the true voice Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, yeah, yeah. People are a social being. We need people. We need other people. Peter Spoto: Absolutely. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): when you put yourself in front of everybody else. That's... anti-Christ. Peter Spoto: It is. It's true. It is so true. Cefore X. Plosives: Mmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): It's not any harder than that. You're going to get a lot of people out there saying all the big words and try to tell it all the fuck of stories. Peter Spoto: It is so true. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): anything that gets you away from being a successful community member. is against everything that the Bible teaches us. Peter Spoto: It's true. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Anything that detours you from being the best person you can be is anti-Christ. Peter Spoto: Yeah, it's Life, the word behind. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And you have to believe that you're going to be good at the end of the day. Talk those shit. Cefore X. Plosives: Peedubs. Peter. Yeah. Peter Spoto: So my thing is... somehow no matter what happens everything is going to be okay but somehow I don't know why I'm so fucking optimistic but there's a part of me that says we got this shit we're gonna there's a possibility that we could make this thing you know I I just and it has to do with Jesus it has to do with history it has to do with all these things it just Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm hmm. ⁓ 100 % 100 % Peter Spoto: There's just this part of me that says, I think we can maybe pull this thing off, you know, in the next... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: enough disciples doing good works. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We're seeing it. Mike and I, Mike and I talked to quite a few very impressive individuals who are hell-bent on making this change. So we said, ⁓ you're doing the Lord's work. You just need a couple of shit-talkers? Cool. We're here. Peter Spoto: Yes. Yes, yes. Cefore X. Plosives: You gotcha. You gotcha. Peter Spoto: So there's gotta be... Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We have spoken to a lot of very quality individuals that are forcing change. Peter Spoto: or what I know you have. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): They're the only reasons I'm not in the streets losing my shit right now is all the folks, the Bernard Taylors, Russell Cleveland's, the Chris Fields, the Yen, I can't remember her name right now, but she's in North Florida. She's in Tallahassee area. Yeah. We have a lot of very quality people that we have spoken to who would we had a Peter Spoto: I see it. What an amazing- Yes. Cefore X. Plosives: Really? Yeah, really. Peter Spoto: So. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Talk with Andrew Rice just yesterday, who was a blast to talk to. Hell bent on making change. Hell bent on putting these motherfuckers that keep breaking the rules. Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Everybody wants to see these motherfuckers in jail. Cefore X. Plosives: You know who's trying to make change, too? Uncle Luke. Uncle Luke, two live crew, Uncle Luke. I've got crew chief Uncle Luke is out here saying, you know what? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Let's go shout out Uncle Luke to live crew baby. The man that had my mom nervous that I was listening to hip hop music. ⁓ Cefore X. Plosives: Yes, he wants to make some change down in Miami. Peter Spoto: Come on. What do you Uncle Luke is the original? Cefore X. Plosives: This, this, this is- Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Uncle Luke is running for Congress. Peter Spoto: Dude man, Uncle Luke is the original cool-hand Luke, okay? Cefore X. Plosives: Yes, Uncle Luke shout out. Peter Spoto: what we got here. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, Uncle Luke was that dude. He is very smart and he was fighting for freedom of speech. Because what folks don't understand is in the 80s freedom of speech was whatever the fuck the powerful people wanted. And in this case, the powerful people were white folks. White folks were nervous because the black voice started coming out of the city. Peter Spoto: Well, we- Cefore X. Plosives: Mm-hmm. Peter Spoto: What we got here? Cefore X. Plosives: Yes. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And they're like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, What we do, what I mean. granted we had to we had to grow from pop that coochie to fight the power but it was it we had to rip it down yeah Cefore X. Plosives: Right. You got a kick in the door, flip the table. Peter Spoto: Just remember, Kuhn-Luke said, you know, was one of the favorite lines of Kuhn-Luke, I think it was Kuhn-Luke, what we have here is a failure to communicate. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): a failure to communicate. Peter Spoto: Luke is doing his thing man. Come on. Cefore X. Plosives: So he planted the seed, you know, kick down the doors, right? And now, yesterday he was talking about ⁓ the power of the elected officials and what they will do. So a lot of the Haitian communities need to understand down there in Miami that if they elect the wrong guy, they're gonna be on a boat or they're gonna be in Alcatraz. And he was dropping knowledge. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yes, sir. Peter Spoto: Wow. Cefore X. Plosives: He was dropping knowledge. And he had this is the energy that we were talking about. is the these are, know, and this is it. You know, we go so we pray for certain things we pay for. We pray for patience, right? Sometimes. And God will say, you know what, I'm going to give you things that you need to learn to be patient about. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Mm-hmm. Cefore X. Plosives: He doesn't just give you patience. He's going to make you learn how to have patience. And you know, like it's the same thing right now. He's going to test you every Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And if you ask for patience, he is going to try you. used to pray. I used to pray. I used to be like, God, make me patient. And he just kept putting dummies in my life. Peter Spoto: That was, was that, was that my? That was. Is it was that my eat that was at my eating shit recipe back there I was talking about maybe Cefore X. Plosives: Right? Yes! Yeah! Peter Spoto: Absolutely. Cefore X. Plosives: In order to kick the shit, you need to eat the shit. You need to go through the storm. Peter Spoto: I'm telling you, it is so clear to me that that's for the first time I'm feeling the feelings like, God, I'm about ready to lose my patience, you know, with all of, with everything, you know, and then I'm just saying to the Holy Spirit, please help me with this, you know, I can't lose my patience. I've got to, you know, not be mad, you Be patient, you know. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yeah, pray for strength. Don't pray for patience. Don't pray for patience. He is gonna test, that's the test upon test. Cefore X. Plosives: You Peter Spoto: No, no, uh-uh. No, I'm not doing that. Cefore X. Plosives: Be careful what you wish for, right? Peter Spoto: I made that mistake too many times. amazing. Cefore X. Plosives: It goes back, like I said, it goes back to the people that we've been talking to, right? Or the people that we would love to talk to. And there are so many of them out there that want to do good things that just need a voice. And for Uncle Luke to use his platform and to use his already established voice, you know, hopefully that gives him that megaphone to, you know, reach out. But we love to have him on the show and just try to broaden our audience, you know, because we have We have people that live in his community and all over the state of Florida. We've had what, like six people on that that are running for Congress in Florida alone. And, you know, the more we get them together, the more we get them together, like the guys from Connecticut, we had a roundtable with three guys running for Congress all together. And then we did them individually, you know, to unite them ⁓ on a community level. And that's what it's all about. Again, reaching the community. Peter Spoto: So impressive. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): that networking again, again, going back again. Peter Spoto: All I see, all I can see is this huge table with all these people there and Chef Jose Andres is there making paella and I'm trying to help him make the paella. That's what I see. Cefore X. Plosives: He's got it, boy, he's whipping it. Peter Spoto: I want to make you guys, I hear you so bad, I'm so out of breath. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm ready. I'm ready for that day. I'm ready for that day. Cefore X. Plosives: Let's go. Peter Spoto: If not that, I'll do frioles negros or I'll do red beans and rice with sausage, Cajun style, or gumbo. I want to cook for you. Cefore X. Plosives: Don't tempt me with a good meal. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm not afraid of you. I'm not afraid of you. Peter Spoto: I'm gonna cook for you guys. I'm telling you, in next several years, I'm gonna chase after your asses. I'm gonna cook you some food. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Fine, I'm gonna threaten you. I'm gonna threaten you right back and tell you I'm gonna make you a Cuban sandwich from fuck and scratch. make my Cuban bread from scratch. It's not like those knuckleheads that we're talking about making box ⁓ mac and cheese. No, this shit is from scratch. It's from flour, water. Peter Spoto: Don't work! Dude man, so- Cefore X. Plosives: Mac and Peter Spoto: Listen man, so the secret to... secret to good Cuban bread was the water in Tampa. There was a spring called the government spring. That water made the best fucking Cuban bread. And then these locals were telling me, they said, don't you know? So the mortadella, that was from Italy, from Sicily, you know, the mortadella. Then the Swiss cheese was from the Germans and the Jews, the Jewish deli. brought in the pickles and the swiss cheese you've got the lechon asado from the cubans you know fuck man Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): the Cuban bread that they stole from the French. Peter Spoto: Yes, of course! Of course they stole it for the fucking fridge. Cuba be taking everything, man, we know. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Cubans be taking everything, like this is our bread. This is our sandwich. Like this from everywhere. Cefore X. Plosives: But you're not lying about the water though, because that's what makes a Chicago pizza. They try to make it out here in Florida, it don't work. Peter Spoto: of course so remember if you get capable you guys can't forget it's not Cuban sandwich Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ Hey, there's a difference between San Francisco sourdough and sourdough you get everywhere else. Because in San Francisco, the air is salty. Peter Spoto: I totally... I feel you man. So remember it's not Cuban sandwich, it's Cuban sandwich, okay? You gotta say the sandwich. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Sandwich. Cefore X. Plosives: Is there a G in there? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): That's how my mom says it, sangwitch. I was like, your witch sang? Peter Spoto: Yeah, Cefore X. Plosives: You Peter Spoto: Yeah. Love you, boys. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, we love you too, brother. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hell yeah, Petey Pete. Cefore X. Plosives: ⁓ hey, Pete, I got to ask you a question, Because now, I guess it's a hard segue back into the Bible, man. So I'm, you know, fairly new in the faith, right? I've been digging in for like four years. But now I know there's the canon, the 66 books, but I've been reading a lot more about the Ethiopian Bible and all the other books that are involved. Right? know I know. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Yes. Peter Spoto: I'm diggin' man. Cefore X. Plosives: I know I chapped and I chimed in the group our group chat and you know, wanted to throw that out there just to just to conversate man because there's so many things, you know, the women the women in the book of Jubilee, the stories that you knock the other gospels that aren't, you know, you know, I don't know they King James said it wasn't valid or whatever you know what I'm saying like there's so many things that were left out. Peter Spoto: So May, the month of May, the month of May is going to be the Ethiopian Bible month, okay? I just, I promise you. And all these little, there are still a lot of pieces that we haven't filled in, like yeah, the Council of Nicaea and Theodosius and Constantine and all this shit and what books were not included in the canon and why. Cefore X. Plosives: I just want to know. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): at the Council of Nicaea. Peter Spoto: So we'll get to that. I had a good New Testament scholar who was, I was the teaching assistant for USC. That fucker knew his shit, man. And I'll share with you that. Huh? Cefore X. Plosives: And the book of the covenant, right? And the book of the covenant, right? Peter Spoto: Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff that was, you know, the Gospels of Mary and Thomas, all kinds of shit was left out. But ⁓ I'll, I'm gonna go deep, man. It's gonna be the theme for the month of May for me, I promise. Cefore X. Plosives: That'll be another episode. He doesn't need more back. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hell yeah. June 1. Pete's gonna be back. Peter Spoto: Love you guys. I'm gonna be a grandpa in a few weeks just to let you guys know. Cefore X. Plosives: There's the drop. There's the hook. ⁓ congratulations. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Hey, that's why he was talking about the egg and the sperm and everything. That's why. He's looking for a segue to show off. Congratulations, big guy. Cefore X. Plosives: Hahaha! Peter Spoto: I'm not, come on man, I'm not that perverted that I'm thinking about eggs and sperms all the time. It's on my radar screen now, know, because of the baby coming. All right, boys, to be continued, okay? Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Is this your first grandkid? What are you gonna have him call you? Papa? Grandpa? Peter Spoto: First. Yeah, first. Cefore X. Plosives: ⁓ beautiful. Peter Spoto: Well, she's going to be a girl. It's going to be a girl. And I'm not sure yet. I've got I'm thinking about Abuelito. I'm thinking about Nonu or Nonu in Italian. I'm thinking about Pop Pop. Thinking about Pop Pop. I'm thinking about all kinds of different words. We'll see what we come up Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): ⁓ no, yeah. Yeah. all that and she's gonna end up being like, hey guy. Cefore X. Plosives: Happy Dubs! Peter Spoto: Yeah. Hey! You! Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): A-you. Peter Spoto: Hey! Alright fellas. Cefore X. Plosives: We love it. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): We wrapping up. Peter Spoto: Yeah, good? On schedule. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Okay, cool. Pete, thanks so much for dropping knowledge, hanging out with us. It's always, always such a fun conversation and it's just lovely time when you're around. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, Love it. Yeah, one of my favorite human beings on the universe in this universe, man. Peter Spoto: always. Honored, just so honored to be a part of this circle. That's all I can say. So grateful. Can't express. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Wow, I believe I speak for Mike when I say we love you. Cefore X. Plosives: Yeah, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): And thank you always for making knowledge fun. Peter Spoto: Yes, I'm looking forward to either arroz con pollo, paella, chiquen fricassee, or red beans and rice with sausage, or gumbo. I'm looking forward to day that we can do that together. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): I'm down. Cefore X. Plosives: You are in a Peter Spoto: Love you guys. Peace, man. Carlos Gomez (Coconut Justice): Alright everybody and with that we're out. Cefore X. Plosives: Peace. Peter Spoto: up.