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Episode 6: In Conversation with Flick Miles · Revelio: A Wizarding World Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to episode six of Ravellio for November fourteenth,
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Amy, I'm Nicole.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm Tom. So this episode we have a very
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  Speaker 3: special guest joining us. Really exciting. We'll be talking to
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  Speaker 3: Flick Miles, Emma Watson's body double in the Harry Potter films.
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  Speaker 3: But first.
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  Speaker 2: Listening to w WN, the Wizarding Wireless Network. Now for
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  Speaker 2: the latest headlines.
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  Speaker 4: So this week you have a little bit of news
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  Speaker 4: to go through. So the Harry Potter Wizards of Baking
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  Speaker 4: Show airs the week that this episode is releasing, so
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  Speaker 4: we'll be sure to discuss, you know, our thoughts on
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  Speaker 4: the show on our next episode. We've also gotten some
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  Speaker 4: new info about Hogwarts Legacy two and a potential tie
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  Speaker 4: into the HBO series. So according to an article in Variety,
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  Speaker 4: David Hadad, president of w Interactive Entertainment, said the Hogwarts
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  Speaker 4: Legacy sequel could have ties to some storylines taking place
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  Speaker 4: in the HBO adaptation. Big jump from the eighteen hundreds
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  Speaker 4: to the nineteen nineties. How do we think this will work.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a little confused by this, to be honest.
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  Speaker 4: Time turners like into this too.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess it's not feeling like the same.
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  Speaker 1: Characters, right, Like Hogwarts Legacy two could just be like
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  Speaker 1: totally different characters.
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  Speaker 2: But like, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Confused how the storylines connect to the TV show.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, could it be poor wording, maybe poor choice
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  Speaker 3: of words, maybe something that got lost in translation. Because
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  Speaker 3: Hogwart's Legacy, it's its own entity. And I know we've
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  Speaker 3: been talking about how the Wizarding World. We wish it
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  Speaker 3: was expanded rather than just narrowed down to Harry Potter
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  Speaker 3: all the time. So I mean it's been a huge
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  Speaker 3: success on its own, so I don't see why it
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  Speaker 3: has to be connected necessarily. I mean, why not get
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  Speaker 3: a direct sequel to the game that people were actually
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  Speaker 3: expecting with your same character going into their sixth year,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and it just yeah, I don't know, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what to think about that because I was
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  Speaker 3: think like they could just be, you know, something that
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  Speaker 3: or maybe like some subplots that might start like coming
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  Speaker 3: kind of finding their way into the story, but it's
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  Speaker 3: so far off, like there's if there's such a huge
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  Speaker 3: time jump, then yeah, I don't know it would. I
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  Speaker 3: mean it's confusing too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it just seems like another example of
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  Speaker 4: erasing that whole Wizarding World thing and shoehorning it just
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  Speaker 4: to Harry Potter. And it's like, Okay, if we're going
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  Speaker 4: to just be focusing on Harry Potter here, then it
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  Speaker 4: seems like everything that's gonna come out going forward has
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  Speaker 4: to tie into Harry Potter directly instead of the Wizarding
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  Speaker 4: World at large, And so that's a little scary.
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  Speaker 1: Do we think maybe the tie to the storylines could
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  Speaker 1: be something to do with like I don't know, like
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  Speaker 1: past things, like those things that like we know of
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  Speaker 1: within the Harry Potter storyline that actually took place years
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  Speaker 1: and years and years before, Like could there be some
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  Speaker 1: tie in with like the portraits or like something I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, like how could I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, it's kind of like, okay, so they're saying it
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  Speaker 4: it could have ties to the storylines taking place in
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  Speaker 4: the adaptation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the storylines taking place in the.
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  Speaker 4: Adaptation is the Harry Potter story Like that's the storyline.
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  Speaker 3: So different story.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Like we know that story, you know, and so
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  Speaker 4: it's like is it And that's why I kind of
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  Speaker 4: said this like time term thing, and it makes me
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  Speaker 4: think of like Kurse Child like we're adding this, are
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  Speaker 4: we going to add stuff into like a Cannon story
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  Speaker 4: that we already have, or like, here's this part you
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  Speaker 4: didn't see, you know, but it happened. And obviously there's
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  Speaker 4: that connection that at the end of the day, they're
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  Speaker 4: all at Hogwarts, But I feel like that should be
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  Speaker 4: the only.
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  Speaker 2: Connection.
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  Speaker 4: Really, does this mean we'll see some of the characters
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  Speaker 4: we know pop up in the game?
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  Speaker 2: How is that affected?
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  Speaker 4: How is that going to affect the Cannon story? Do
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  Speaker 4: you have to start thinking about whatever happens in the
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  Speaker 4: game is being a canon event as part of the story?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they might have to do that with
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  Speaker 3: Hogwarts Mystery too, if you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, could it be like something as simple as like
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like the Hogwarts ghosts, Like could we tie
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  Speaker 1: them into the video game? And then it makes it's
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  Speaker 1: not like necessarily a nineteen nineties storyline, but you've got.
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  Speaker 5: The Hogwarts ghosts which are also involve Maybe could be.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, weird, I don't know how I feel
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I just again, I think it just really is
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  Speaker 4: like we're just getting more and more of this, Like yeah,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, this erasure of the Wizarding World.
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  Speaker 2: Which doesn't feel great.
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  Speaker 5: To me.
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  Speaker 4: Well, the next bit of news is the Warner Brothers
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  Speaker 4: Studio Tour London announced the return of its Magical Mischief
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  Speaker 4: feature in early twenty twenty five. So this feature will
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  Speaker 4: allow visitors to discover some of the special effects used
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  Speaker 4: in the films, such as.
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  Speaker 2: The Dursley's floating cake.
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  Speaker 4: And so if you happen to find yourself in London
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  Speaker 4: between January twenty fifth and April twenty eighth, twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 4: definitely head over to the Studio Tour to check out
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  Speaker 4: everything and this limited time feature has to offer. And
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  Speaker 4: I know there's also going to be some features with
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  Speaker 4: the Marauder's map and also with Fred and George and
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  Speaker 4: the scene you know where they bust out of the
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  Speaker 4: Great Hall over Umbridge, and I saw they're going to
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  Speaker 4: have like them in the ceiling kind of in that.
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  Speaker 4: First when you go to the Studio Tour, the first
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  Speaker 4: thing you do is go through the Great Hall and
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  Speaker 4: essentially they'll have like Umbradge with her, you know, in
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  Speaker 4: her costume at the front, and then that scene kind
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  Speaker 4: of playing out a little bit on on the ceilings.
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  Speaker 2: So I wish I could go. Sounds really cool, and I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean, yeah, it's amazing how it keeps expanding and they
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  Speaker 3: keep adding new features, and it's always like something new
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  Speaker 3: to see, whether you're there at you know, Christmas or
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  Speaker 3: Halloween or just in the middle of you know, April,
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  Speaker 3: and you have always something new and new feature. And yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I think it's it's a great way to keep people
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  Speaker 3: coming in. I just today saw one user from Instagram
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  Speaker 3: who has a Harry Potter themed account and he's at
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  Speaker 3: the studio tour and he was like, I've never seen
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  Speaker 3: a lie in this a cue this long, and he
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  Speaker 3: goes there very regularly, and I say, wow, like it's
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  Speaker 3: drawing in so many people.
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  Speaker 2: Just great for so many years.
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  Speaker 4: And I will say when I had the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: live in the UK, I went quite a lot, especially
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  Speaker 4: when I was only about two hours on the train
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  Speaker 4: out of London. And it's not one of even if
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  Speaker 4: you're a huge fan, like if I could see it
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  Speaker 4: being like, Okay, well I've seen this, you know a
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  Speaker 4: ton of times. But they were always bringing in new things.
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  Speaker 4: And think when I was living there is when they
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  Speaker 4: brought in the having Privet drive and that wasn't there
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  Speaker 4: before they added privet drive to the lot out back
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  Speaker 4: and you could go in and see like they had
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  Speaker 4: the letters and everything set up, and so it's it
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  Speaker 4: is such a great way to keep that the place
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  Speaker 4: alive is to keep adding these new features because you
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  Speaker 4: want to keep going and seeing it. And then they
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  Speaker 4: have some features that like come back every year, like
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  Speaker 4: at Christmas time they usually do like a Hogwarts in
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  Speaker 4: the snow, and so if that's something you really like
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  Speaker 4: to see, you can make a trip out of it,
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  Speaker 4: you know, every especially if you live in that area.
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  Speaker 2: So very cool.
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  Speaker 4: I missed definitely being able to frequent there a lot.
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  Speaker 4: It's a very cool place and so a bit of
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  Speaker 4: Universal news. So during a recent interview on the Discover
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  Speaker 4: Universal podcasts, artists from Universal Creative revealed some new details
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  Speaker 4: about Epic Universe's The Wizard World of Harry Potter Ministry
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  Speaker 4: of Magic. So we learned that the background music in
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  Speaker 4: the land is going to be part film score and
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  Speaker 4: part jazz music. So Universal Creative Scott Verbal shared that
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  Speaker 4: when guests arrives, there's going to be sounds of period
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  Speaker 4: automobiles and conversation. It's really more of a soundscape cementing
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  Speaker 4: you in the place. But once you get into the
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  Speaker 4: Wizarding World, that's where you're going to start to hear
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  Speaker 4: the iconic Harry Potter scores and period jazz music.
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  Speaker 3: Love it nice.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope that they use some of the Fantastic
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  Speaker 1: Beast music.
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  Speaker 3: Already. Using that jazz music is very Fantastic Beast, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of like really puts you into that world
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  Speaker 3: that time period directly. It's cool.
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  Speaker 2: I find it.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting though, because it's like jazz music like in Paris,
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  Speaker 4: and that seems a little interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: But I know too, like in that podcast, they also
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  Speaker 4: talk about just really wanting this to be a very
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  Speaker 4: multisensory experience, So I really like that idea of not
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  Speaker 4: just having music, but also having like almost like the
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  Speaker 4: soundscapes and really feeling like you're hearing chatter or automobiles
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  Speaker 4: and in the smells, and I think, you know, they
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  Speaker 4: even talked about just like feeling the cobblestones that you're
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  Speaker 4: walking on, so you're really transported and really feel like
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  Speaker 4: you're you're there.
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  Speaker 2: And they also learned.
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  Speaker 4: In that episode that the park will have its own
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  Speaker 4: windmaker named Cosme Acador definitely probably said that wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I do not know French at all.
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  Speaker 4: But this is really interesting because when we had our
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  Speaker 4: episode where we episode two where we kind of were
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  Speaker 4: talking about.
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  Speaker 2: What we knew, we talked a lot about wands.
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  Speaker 4: And what the wind shop would look like, and so
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  Speaker 4: now we kind of got some more information on that.
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  Speaker 4: So Cosme is going to be a new character that
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  Speaker 4: was created just for Epic Universe. And it looks like
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  Speaker 4: Cosme has a very different view on Wandlor than oli Vander.
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  Speaker 4: So obviously in our Wandlor episode we talked a lot
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  Speaker 4: about Olivander's craft and you know how he's all about
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  Speaker 4: the wand choosing the wizard. Well, it looks like Cosme
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  Speaker 4: is all about the wizard influencing the wand that's her philosophy.
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  Speaker 3: Nice spin.
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  Speaker 4: Interesting, Yeah, and so it'll be interesting to see how
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  Speaker 4: you know, obviously there's been some backstory created there for
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  Speaker 4: this Wandmaker, So I think it'll be interesting to see
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  Speaker 4: if that then plays into the interactive elements in a
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  Speaker 4: way differently, or if there'll also be woner if they're
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  Speaker 4: going to do a show kind of like how you
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  Speaker 4: have the Olivander show where.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the wand is choosing the Wizard.
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  Speaker 4: Are they going to put together an interactive show for
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  Speaker 4: Cosme's store? Yeah, and how will that look because there's
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  Speaker 4: this influential component And something that we really speculated on
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  Speaker 4: during that episode was like, what's going to be sold
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  Speaker 4: in this wand shop? And I think we talked a
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  Speaker 4: lot about will it be fantastic beast wand you know
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  Speaker 4: what will that look like?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's going to be.
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  Speaker 4: Brand new ones that are not sold in any of
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  Speaker 4: the other universal parts, that are going to be unique
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  Speaker 4: to affect by Gett's magique.
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  Speaker 1: I think they listened to episode two, guys, I mean
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  Speaker 1: think they did.
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  Speaker 2: We call it you know you're listening.
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  Speaker 1: We were like, you know, make a different ones so
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  Speaker 1: people have to go to this wand shop to.
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  Speaker 4: Buy one, Yeah, And it sounds like they were also
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  Speaker 4: talking about that. It's really they talked a lot about
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  Speaker 4: like Parisian culture and just the style, and it looks
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  Speaker 4: like that's going to really influence the style of these
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  Speaker 4: wands as well. So I just picture these really kind
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  Speaker 4: of like ornate, elaborate wands versus the more like rustic
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  Speaker 4: kind of ones. I think that we see a lot
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  Speaker 4: of olive andders wands being and I.
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  Speaker 3: Hope there's a broad selection too, like not just like
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  Speaker 3: five or sakes. I hope there's like this big like
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  Speaker 3: not not like having like one each one want personalized,
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  Speaker 3: but having a good selection of them, because is that's
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  Speaker 3: something I've always wanted for all Evanders back in Hawks
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  Speaker 3: Meat to have, like like have at least we should
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  Speaker 3: have gotten like twenty or twenty five different types of
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  Speaker 3: wands that are in character wants. So I'm curious to
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  Speaker 3: see how they're going to the variority that's going to
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  Speaker 3: be included in this in this selection.
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  Speaker 4: The one thing is that you know, are all the
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  Speaker 4: wands going to be that interactive wand which I love
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  Speaker 4: and hate, right because you want to be able to
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  Speaker 4: use it in the park, but also if you're just
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  Speaker 4: a standard wand collector to display, like you were saying,
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  Speaker 4: having all these different varieties, like, yeah, I don't want
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  Speaker 4: them all to have that interactive time.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, totally totally agree.
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  Speaker 4: But I feel like they probably will all be interactive,
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  Speaker 4: since that's kind of the direction that they've taken in
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  Speaker 4: the other parks. But right, yeah, I guess we'll I
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  Speaker 4: guess we'll see. So during this episode, they also talked
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  Speaker 4: about some of the food and beverage options that we'll
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  Speaker 4: see in the park. So there's going to be a
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  Speaker 4: Parisian sandwich shop, a quidditch bar, and even a hangout
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  Speaker 4: for evil wizards. Catch me there with my fellow Slytherans.
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  Speaker 4: And at these locations you will be able to find
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  Speaker 4: like familiar Wizarding drinks like butter beer. So we did
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  Speaker 4: have confirmation butter beer will make its way.
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  Speaker 2: To this park. But there's also going to be a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of new alcoholic and non alcoholic offerings that are going
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  Speaker 4: to be French inspired to that time period, but of
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  Speaker 4: course with a Wizarding twist.
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  Speaker 2: So excited to see.
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  Speaker 4: And I mean, I know in the other parks, like
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  Speaker 4: I love a lot of the other specialty drinks they do, and.
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  Speaker 2: So I know that this will probably be great here too.
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  Speaker 4: And then also kind of similar toly to something we
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  Speaker 4: talked about during that episode too, as I remember Amy
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  Speaker 4: was talking about how we've learned that you know, the
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  Speaker 4: buildings in this new park are going to be taller
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  Speaker 4: than anything we've ever seen in the current Wizarding World parks.
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  Speaker 4: And during this podcast conversation we kind of got a
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  Speaker 4: big a better look at what that actually is going
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  Speaker 4: to look like in numbers. So that episode revealed just
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  Speaker 4: how much taller these buildings are going to be. So
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  Speaker 4: right now, the building for Coats in diagon Alley at
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  Speaker 4: their tallest point are around thirty five to forty feet tall.
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  Speaker 4: In the Epic Universe Park, they're going to start at
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  Speaker 4: thirty five to forty feet tall and we'll go upwards
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  Speaker 4: to sixty five to seventy.
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  Speaker 2: Feet so they are much there, very tall.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if you think about, like, yeah, that
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  Speaker 4: the tallest building in diagon Alley is essentially.
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  Speaker 2: Where these buildings start in Ministry of Magic.
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  Speaker 3: Picturing, like the drag is it, Gringotts is Greenott's the
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  Speaker 3: tallest one, I think so.
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  Speaker 4: I think because of having the dragon on top, it
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  Speaker 4: probably makes it the tallest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, these buildings are like, I mean, it's almost
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  Speaker 4: it's like double the height is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it'd be very cool.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, if you'd like to listen to
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  Speaker 4: this interview yourself, definitely be sure to check out the
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  Speaker 4: official Universal Universal podcast again, it's called Discover Universal, and
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  Speaker 4: they talked about specifically the wizard World of Harry Potter
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  Speaker 4: on the November first episode, but it looks like they've
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  Speaker 4: also been doing other episodes talking about all the different lands,
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  Speaker 4: so it's like they're dedicating an episode to the different lands, so.
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  Speaker 2: Definitely check that out.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So hopefully we'll get some more in the next couple
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  Speaker 4: months before the park officially opens, we'll get some more details.
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  Speaker 4: And to wrap up the news, we do have some
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  Speaker 4: merch news. So this month there's a couple of exciting
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  Speaker 4: items that you can add to your wizarding shelves. So
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  Speaker 4: starting off on November twentieth, Noble Collection is launching the
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  Speaker 4: first Ones collection. So after years a popular demand, Harry
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  Speaker 4: Ron and Hermione's original wands from the first two films
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  Speaker 4: will be officially released. Yeah, which is exciting, Yes, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: especially for one. Yeah, if you're a wand collector, being
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  Speaker 4: able to get those original wands before they kind of
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  Speaker 4: changed them over to what we you know, if you
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: have them in your collection already very cool.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And in addition to this, so all eight Harry Potters
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  Speaker 4: soundtracks are going to be repressed on vinyl. You can
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  Speaker 4: find these exclusively on rhino dot Com and It's available
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  Speaker 4: in four different color variants, which obviously all correspond to
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  Speaker 4: the four Hogwarts houses. So there's a red vinyl for
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  Speaker 4: gryffindor green vinyl for Slytherin, blue vinyl for Ravenclaw, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: yellow vinyl for Hufflepuff. So this obviously it spans everything.
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  Speaker 4: So it's going to be over ten hours of music,
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  Speaker 4: and it's very limited to only three thousand pressings worldwide,
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  Speaker 4: and it's going to be released on November twenty ninth,
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  Speaker 4: but can be pre ordered now online.
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  Speaker 1: Gee, November twenty ninth, Between this and the anthology Taylor Swift,
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  Speaker 1: that's going to be quite the day of the vinyls.
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  Speaker 5: It is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I mean obviously, yeah, the anthology is
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  Speaker 4: going to be a little bit cheaper than this collection.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, something I.
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  Speaker 3: Was waiting for that to buy the anthology because I
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: knew she was going to release it sooner or later.
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: So I don't have a copy of the of that
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: vinyl of the Torture Poice Department vinyl. But now that
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: she's releasing the whole thing, we're going to go for
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, well, and I mean, and if you want
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: to pick up this new collection of the Harry Potter vinyls.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, be ready to fork out a little bit
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: of money. How much was it? Tom?
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Three hundred bucks?
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: But it's really not that bad.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: It's not that bad because it's eight soundtracks.
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like if you think about eight individual vinyls that
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: are and of course it's a film soundtrack, so usually
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: you do have more than one yeah vinyl in there,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: and the more vinyls you have in a pressing, usually
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: they are more expensive.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm hmmmm. Yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, And that's what we have for the news this episode.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: All right, so we want to welcome our very special
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: guest this episode, Flick Miles.
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: So, Flick, introduce yourself. Who are you? What do you do?
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: What do I do? Good question? So I am also
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: a podcast host of a podcast called Behind the wand
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: And to jump back a little bit, when I was
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: a child, I was Emma Watson's body double, so the
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: Hermione body double on the first couple of Harry Potter's
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: And now fast forward again back into time. Now I
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: speak to people who worked on the films and just
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: reminisce about the time we had filming. And I think
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: that's kind of a nutshell of my Harry Potter life.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, and your podcast is called behind the Wand
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: in case our listeners want to go to.
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: Check that out, yes, yes, please do.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So, I guess just first of all, can you explain
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: what a body double does and how is this different
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: from stunts, because I know there's always confusion there.
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's hilarious. I always will, not always, but quite
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: a lot get referred to as a stunt double. And
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: that's just so funny to me because I know how
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: like highly trained stump performers are and how talented they are,
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: like a whole range of sort things like diving and
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: horseback riding and all that sort of thing, and that
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: is just like, couldn't be further from me, like the
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: most uncoordinated athletic person you could possibly think of it.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: So it's just funny when when people refer to as
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: a stunt double. But so I think a body double
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: can be sort of different things. But how it was
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: for me is because when you are under the age
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: of sixteen, you can only work a certain amount of
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: hours on a film set. So with Harry Potter, they
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: just used me as a double, just a film quicker basically,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: so you could sort of get four hours of Emma
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: four hours of me in an eight hour day. That
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: doesn't mean that every day I was filming four hours,
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: but it was just that it was available. It was
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: an option for them. And to be a body double,
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: you basically just have to have the same measurements as
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: whoever it is your doubling. So with Emma, we were
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: sort of a similar height build. I know, I always think, like,
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: looking at me now, I look nothing like Emma Watson,
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: but I think we do. Actually, if you look at pictures,
• 22:01
  Speaker 5: have quite a similar shape face. So I think if
• 22:04
  Speaker 5: they were ever filming something from behind or over the shoulder,
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: we had a really similar jawline, which sounds so ridiculous,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: but actually that's sort of what you would see with
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: some hair, and we had like a similar color hair.
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: And you know, guys, not a natural blonde. Don't know
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: that shocks you, but yeah, that's that's sort of what
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: I did for on the Harry Potter films. That's how
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: ebody doubled.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Absoundly cool and how did you land this job?
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: So I always think this is a really funny question
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: as well, because I think before I had anything to do,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: like I guess as a child to do with sort
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: of film, I always thought you'd have to have gone
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: to like a really prestigious like drama school, or a
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: really prestigious like belong to a really prestigious like agency
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: or something like that to get a heart in a film.
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: But how I got the part is I went to
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: like an after school club that was you know, not
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: that it was it was great, but it was just
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: in like a church hall on a Friday evening for
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: like an hour and we would just do sort of
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: little games and improvant and put on little plays and
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: stuff like that. It was very very low key. There
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: was actually an adult school attached to it, which was
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: a bit more professional, but this was just the children's
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: like after school thing. And the woman who ran it
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: named Anna. Shout out to Anna. She just asked my
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: mum once when she was picking me up whether she
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: could just have some photos of me because she also
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: ran a small agency and if anything ever came up,
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: she could put me forward for it. So my mom
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, sure, just took a couple of photos
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: of me in the garden, like again, nothing professional, just
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: with my a disposable camera, printed them out, gave them
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: to her. And them to Anna, and then I think
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: it was the first thing I had auditioned for. I remember
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: I came back from summer holiday and Anna just called saying, Oh,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: they're looking for somebody to be a double for this
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: girl who's got the part of Hermione in the Harry
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: Potter series. And I knew Harry Potter. I'd read the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: first couple of books because that was all that was
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: out by the time we started filming, so I was
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: aware of Harry Potter. I had no idea what a
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: double did or was there anything, but of course I
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: was like, yeah, go for this, this sounds great, and
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: then yeah, went for it and got the part. So yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: that's awesome. How old were you.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Ten?
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Ten? Yeah? Wow, it's a long time ago. Very cool.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: So then once you've got the part and you were
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: on set, what are some of the moments in the
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: films where we're actually seeing you and that Emma.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: More time goes on the hazier My memory is with this,
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: and it's really hard because they filmed so much. I mean,
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I'm sure you guys know this as film fans, that
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: they film so much more than what's actually seen, So
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: you know, some scenes I'm like, I'm definitely filmed that.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And then obviously they just don't use the takes with
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: me in it, or they've decided to not use the
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: shot over her mightony shoulder or whatever. But bits that
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: I remember really clearly, like seeing the film and being like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: I know that's me. Is the chess scene in the
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: first film. It's definitely some of that because Emma was
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: a bit poorly, like nothing serious, just her was a
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: bit poorly on a couple of the shoot days, so
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: they just used me like perhaps a little bit more
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: than usual. And obviously a scene like that where there's
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: a lot going on and explosions, you can probably get
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: away a little bit more with using a double than
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: something that's a bit less action sequence. You're going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: notice more if there's somebody somebody else in her place.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: But with something like that, they could sort of get
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: away with using me a bit more. The second film, obviously,
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: so I spoken to Amy before, so the cat, so
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: when she turns into a cat again. Sorry, this sounds
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: like every time Emma has like a bit of a downfall,
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: that's when i'd step in the rock. Sounds awful like
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: as I'm saying that I'm thinking, but again with that,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: the makeup for when she turns into a cat when
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: she takes the polyjuice potion, it's Millicent Ballstrode's cat hair
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: that she adds to the potion. They used me for
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: that because again they had to use some sort of
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: glue to stick it onto your face, and I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: Emma had like a really mild reaction to it. But obviously,
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: like that's not ideal if she has like a rash
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: on her face and we're still filming like other stuff.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: So again I stepped in and did that bit. And
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: then the third one, which I remember this so clearly
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: because this was really funny. We were like on set
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: and a trailer was being filming the third one, but
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: a teaser trailer was being released for the third one,
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: and they were just playing it on set and everyone
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: was just standing around looking at it, you know, or
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: it was about to be released. They were just showing
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: the final cut to people. And there's a scene where
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: the Dementors come on board What's express and you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: the train sort of stops and it all becomes icy,
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: and there's a shot where they're outside of the train
• 27:34
  Speaker 5: and they pull back and you sort of see it's
• 27:36
  Speaker 5: all getting dark and frozen over and you just see
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: Harry Ron and Hermione through the window and that bits me.
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: And it was so funny because on set people going,
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: that's really clearly you, and it was all a bit
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: like awkward. Oh yeah, that wasn't a EMA's downfall. That
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: was just a time that they would use a double.
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: I guess they were just she was probably schooling or something,
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: but but yeah, I saw. I guess it's like, I mean,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: I'll be used every day. But also I guess you
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: are kind of an understudy role as well, which I've
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: never really thought about until I was sort of talking
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: saying this to you now. But you know, if Emma
• 28:14
  Speaker 5: was unwell, which as a child, when you're working full
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: time every day, there are going to be times where,
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: you know, not even anything serious. You could just have
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: a slight headache and stuff. But to ask you to
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: go and do your best performance for a film that
• 28:25
  Speaker 5: millions of people are going to watch when you're not
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: feeling one hundred percent is not very fair. So if
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: they ever were sort of feeling a bit poorly or
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: having a bit of downtime, that's also a time that
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: if they could use a double. It just meant like
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: production didn't have to stand still. They have options to
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: film other things, and they have like stand by scenes
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: as well that they could film. So always like a
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: stand by scene was always like interior of the Hogwarts
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: Express because that was just on the like on the
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: sound stages, just the whole time. So it was like, oh,
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: if we were filming outside and we needed like weather
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: cover or something couldn't happen, just go to the w
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: hoog Quarts Express. But then when I spoke to, like
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: for my podcast, the editor of the first film, he said,
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: they filmed it over such a long time, the interior
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: of the Hogwarts Express, that Dan's voice had actually changed,
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: so they had to like digitally alter his voice because
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: obviously it was sort of like breaking and getting deeper,
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: and you could also see in his face like he
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: sort of slims down, you know, when you sort of
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: go from like twelve to thirteen, you lose a bit
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: of like that I don't know, like we call it
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: like puppy that, I don't know, Yeah, you like slim
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: down a little bit. So they had to like digitally
• 29:32
  Speaker 5: alter that, which I always think is really funny that
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: they that's the standby scene and then it ends up
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: being like a nightmare to edit.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: Interesting.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah cool, I'm gonna have to go back and watch
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: that scene in prison and.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, because I mean, yeah, I have no idea.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, of those scenes that you were in, did
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you have one that was like your favorite?
• 30:00
  Speaker 5: I think the cat thing will always stand out to
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: me because I guess it's something I just did on
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: on like not on my own, but it was just
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: actually like me doing that scene. And obviously, like I
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: got to work with Nick Dudman, who's head of creature
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: effects in his team, who were just like incredibly talented,
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: amazing people, and like I was so lucky to see
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: like first hand how the world was like prosthetics works,
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: which you know you see in films all the time
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: when people have like complete transformation, it's prosthetic work. So
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: even though this was for a cat, he's I mean,
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: like Nick Dudman, Google him, He's worked on so many projects,
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: so it was just amazing seeing him him work and
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: do that was really really fun. And also I couldn't
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: eat in the makeup. You could only drink, so they
• 30:55
  Speaker 5: would just get me like McDonald's milkshakes all the time,
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: milkshake and some so it was sort of like some
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: sort of food that I could have because from the
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: morning to the evening, like I couldn't eat anything. So
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: which when you're like twelve, that's amazing. I'm on my
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: mom's like no, no more one day. So that was
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: always like the cat scene I think always is really
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: like I think of that time, it's like really special
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: and you know, I loved doing that. But in terms
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: of like the best scenes, I always think like anything
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: in the Great Hall, and it wasn't necessarily because of
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: the scenes that we were filming. It was more just
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: because everybody would be in that day. And although like
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: the whole experience was amazing, Like obviously you can have
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: weeks on end where it's only like Dan Rupert emmer
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: In and then me, the Harry double and the Ron double,
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: and as much as I love them, you know, it's
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: six kids and in an adult world, and we would
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: always have fun and they'd always like find things for
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: us to do, and you know, obviously we would be
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: like working, so it wasn't like we're just sitting around
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: not doing anything. But then I think when we'd do
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: the Great Hall, and like every single characters in adults
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: and children, it would be like so buzzy, Like the
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: studios would be like packed, you know, where it would
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: be like quite quiet. If it was just a couple
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: of weeks, we'd just like carry Ron Hermione scenes, or
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: sometimes like in the third film, there's a whole bit
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: obviously where it's just Harry and Hermione because Ron's got
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: his leg. He's in the hospital being you know, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: those times were really quiet. There'd be like four of
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: us there, and obviously like Dan and Emma or like
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: me and Dan would be on set, and then like
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: told r and Emma would be on set, so then
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: it would only really be like two of you having
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: like downtime and on the breaks and stuff. So whenever
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: we're in the great Hall or sort of a classroom
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: scene where like a lot of the kids are in
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: that was always so fun. And just like being in
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: hair and makeup, it would be like really busy and
• 32:55
  Speaker 5: you'd be like waiting and you know, it would just yeah,
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: it would be really good. And we had like a
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: wreck room where there was like table tennis and table
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: football and stuff, and you know, you could actually go
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: in there and the would be like people doing stuff
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: rather than just like me and my mom. Again.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so we spoke a bit about well your favorite scenes.
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: Is there any memory from set that stands out or
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: is a favorite of yours?
• 33:30
  Speaker 5: Oh, my goodness, I always Yeah, there's one memory that
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: always I always think of it. It's when we were
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: in and I don't know what. I don't know why
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: this happened. There's genuinely no backstory to this, but it's
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: in We're in Scotland, and I think maybe we were
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: a bit delirious because we were in Scotland and like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: working on location is so much fun, but also you
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: are like there the whole time, if that makes sense.
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: Like when I was working at the Shudio, so i'd
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: go home every night, you'd have weekends off when you're
• 34:01
  Speaker 5: on location, even though you're not working like all day,
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: you're like going back to a hotel where everyone else is.
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: So it's like quite full on being on location. And
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: we're obviously in Scotland four weeks, which obviously you guys know,
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: in the most like stunning place to be. But I
• 34:18
  Speaker 5: think we all just towards the end got a bit delirious,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: and there was a bit where we were in Hagrid's
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: hut and they were filming. It's obviously like Harry and
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: Ron and Ron and get the right people. Harry and
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Hermione have gone back in time. Then Harry, Ron and
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Hermione are in Hagrid's hut, so they're filming on to Rupert.
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: So me and Tolga told go it was to Harry
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: double in there just as like you can see the
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: back of us, and then like Dan and Emma are outside.
• 34:47
  Speaker 5: This was actually quite a fun time because all of
• 34:49
  Speaker 5: us would be on set together, which obviously like never happens,
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: like there would never be a reason for Me and
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: Emma to be on set together or like Tolga and Dan,
• 34:56
  Speaker 5: but obviously in this sequence they used us because two
• 35:00
  Speaker 5: of them when they go anyway and for some reason,
• 35:04
  Speaker 5: with Hagrid's hut, this is the one actually in like
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: not the interior, the one they actually built in Scotland.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: We would just get so hysterical, it's like just giggling.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: And I just remember this one scene we were trying
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: to film with like Dan Ruper outside, me Tolga and
• 35:21
  Speaker 5: Ruper inside, and then like all the sort of like
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: assistant directors in ads and runners and like sound people
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: and whatever were like inside Hagrid's hut on the floor,
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: and for some reason all of us just couldn't stop laughing.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: And it's almost like you know when you're meant to
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: not laugh that it makes you laugh more. And also
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: you're trying to hold it in, so your shoulders are
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: just like shaking. So they're filming and all they can
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: see is like mine and Tolger's shoulders like shaking, and
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: then like Ruper laughing as well, and there was sort
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: of like everyone outside was like, what's going on in there?
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: We were like actually, nothing, Like I can't explain it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: It's just so I can't remember what set it off
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: that I will always remember that because how many texts
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: they must have done. And this is testament to them,
• 35:58
  Speaker 5: because they'd never get annoyed us. They'd just be like, Okay,
• 36:01
  Speaker 5: let go again. It was like even the crew were
• 36:04
  Speaker 5: like cracking up. I just can't even explain, but it
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: was something about like that last bit of being in
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Scotland filming at Hagrid's Heart, and I think like the
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: whole sequence with like freeing Buckbeak is also like just
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: such a mega cool bit of the book anyway of
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: the film. Yeah, I always have really fond memories of
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: being up in Scotland and specifically inside that hut in
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: the freezing cold, like raining like rained every day, midges
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: every day. We just became like really hysterical. And like
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: I said, they just never told us off, Like they
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: never said to us like, no'd be serious now, They
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: just like let us just be and poor Rupert like
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: with us it was okay, like we were obviously laughing
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: but actually like trying to film onto him. I think
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: that's part of like when you're trying to do a
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: bit of a serious scene, we'd all be like it
• 36:51
  Speaker 5: was always like the more serious the scene, the more
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: like hysterical we would be. Yeah, I remember, like.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Everyone was just really good working with kids, right because
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: you guys were all kids at the end of the day.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: And I feel like that would be much more difficult
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: or not difficult, but different than working with like an
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: adult a whole adult cast totally.
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: And I mean like you would be mad to sign
• 37:13
  Speaker 5: on to Harry Potter if you weren't up for working
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: with kids because heavy as a kid heavy cast. But
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: do you know, since like speaking to people, so when
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: I interview people who worked on the film. I always
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: sort of think like, oh, my goodness, and especially the
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: people working on Harry Potter. You know, it was such
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: a big project and everyone wanted to be on it,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: like crew wanted to do it. You know, there was
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: a lot of like you know, momentum. Mind it was
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: a real phenomenon already the book, so when it was
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: the film, you know, people wanted to do it. So
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: if you're thinking about like the cinematographers and the directors,
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: and you know they're sort of like really experienced and
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: you know like Academy Award winners and Bafter winners, and
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: I just think like how funny it must have been
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: for them who have probably done fifty films and worked
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: with all these A listers who also are just like
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: super professional, and then coming onto a film like Harry
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Potter where ninety percent of the people have never even
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: set foot on a film set before. It's not even like, oh,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: they just haven't been in big films. It's like though
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: they've actually like never ever been in a film or
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: even done anything like this. But they always say actually
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: the like fresh like energy and excitement that the children
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: brought to it, sort of like re energy and really
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: like reinvigorated, like their love for film because I guess
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: they've become so used to that industry that actually like
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: seeing children experience it for the first time and all
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: the excitement that comes with like being on a film set.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Like I said, it's such a buzzy, like amazing place,
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: Like anyone who's been to the studio tour you can
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: just tell when you go there, it's like electric, it's
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: so beautiful. Like I think that they just really enjoyed
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: almost getting to see the amazing like world of filmmaking
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: through like children's eyes. So they kind of like were
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: on board with us being a bit silly, and they
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: often would like get involved in like the jokes and
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: the pranks, like they weren't against it, you know.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: So I feel like that like joy and that wonder
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: also really translated into the finished films. There's just that
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: element there. So I think you could tell if the
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: people on the film didn't want to be there working
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: on the film, or if they were super strict with
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the kids, you would get a totally different products what
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: we ended up.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: With completely because I just think like we can now
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: as adults, I appreciate if you put a lot of
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: pressure on a ten year old, You're not going to
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: get a good result. It's not it doesn't work like that.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: You know. You want them to feel safe to you know,
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: and I think like with acting, it is about like
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: taking risks and being quite like vulnerable, you know, especially
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: if you're doing seed with adults. You know, already just
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: being a child in any I think, like a even
• 40:00
  Speaker 5: at school when you're a child and a teacher, there's
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: that sort of like you can something be like shy,
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: you know, being around adults. I mean not every child,
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: but like children and be like quieter than when they're
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: amongst their peers when adults are around. So I think,
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: especially with their scenes with adults who also were obviously,
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: like I said, really like prestigious A list actors, they
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: needed the children to feel safe to like open up
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: and take risks when it came to acting and really
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: like put themselves out there, which was great. And like
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: all the big names that you know, we know and
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: love were all really really lovely. Like I said, there
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: was never any like eye rolling or getting annoyed if
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: we had to go again, or you know, making a
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: mistake or anything. I think everyone was like really supportive.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get this family vibe definitely, like this big
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: family ensemble. And something the actors themselves said when they
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: were wrapping up Deathly Hollows it said, I'm just going
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: to miss the people, not just my co stars, but everyone,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: the production designers, the directors of everyone, like everyone, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: everyone was very tight.
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you can see, like when you
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: look through IMDb about how many people spent ten years
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: of their life like working on film one to like
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: Deathie Hallow's Part two. I think and for people that
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: was like a huge chunk of their career, Like if
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: you're sort of you know, fifty, that's taking you into
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: sort of the tail end of your career. So that
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: commitment to a project, like you said, I completely agree
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: that it just it was like a family feel, you know.
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: And that's why I also I love doing the podcast
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: because I've yet to come across somebody who hasn't said,
• 41:48
  Speaker 5: like I always ask people like, what's your favorite memory,
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: and pretty much every single person says, it's not the memory,
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: it's the people that they just truly like loved and
• 41:58
  Speaker 5: you know, were big parts of their life. That weddings,
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: throwing baby showers and you know, all that sort of
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: a thing, and like, I'm glad you said that because
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: I think that I think that does translate on screen.
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: And that's why I think, like, especially if you think
• 42:12
  Speaker 5: about like the Chris Columbus films as well, like they're
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: so glossy and magical, it's almost just like such a warm,
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: fuzzy feeling when you watch them.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm h yeah. Yeah, And speaking of that, do
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: you still keep in touch with anyone from the films
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: to this day?
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: So yes, yeah, there are people that I've stayed in
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: contact with, like from when we when I finished to
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: now and then obviously there's a group of people that
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: I've actually just like re met through dipping my toe
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: back into like the Harry Potter Paul has to speak
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: with the podcast and you know both. It's just I
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: think it's such a even though like hundreds of people
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: work on the film, I guess it was such like
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: a unique experience that actually, like last summer Hours it
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: some before, I went and did like a convention it's
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: called now Leaky Con, that's it, Leaky Con, yeah, in Chicago.
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: And actually for me, I just like the best bit
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: was just like reminiscing with everybody like and just chatting
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: through just like really niche things like that just don't
• 43:26
  Speaker 5: really translate unless you were there, like you could appreciate
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: it if you know, when you're just like ha, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: but it's just those things, like those little funny things
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: that would happen through the day which were like nothing
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: but actually became such a big part of like life
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: at Leavestone Studios. And it's always like no times past
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: when when you reminisce about that time except for the
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: fact that we're all like old and it's so you know,
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: people are like married, got children and just that life's
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: moved on. But you always sort of go back to
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: your teenage self being there and yeah, well.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of with that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned leaves it in and thinking about it,
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: like do you ever like like how often do you
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: go to the studio tour and like when you go,
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: do you ever just feel this like wave of nostalgia
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: when you're there?
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: Are totally And I actually live quite close to the
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: studio tour. I've only been a couple of times. I
• 44:21
  Speaker 5: think I've been like twice three times. I really do
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: want to go again because they keep expanding it, they
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: keep adding like more stuff.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Features all the time.
• 44:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks so good, doesn't it, Which I'm so
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: glad they do because there is so much to see
• 44:36
  Speaker 5: and I think, like, how amazing to get to see it.
• 44:38
  Speaker 5: And I feel like the studio tour as well, is
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: just like a love letter to all the people behind
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: the scenes, which again like not to have one about
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: my podcast, but like I do try and think that
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: that's like how I like my podcast to be, is
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: like obviously I've had a few people that were in
• 44:52
  Speaker 5: front of the camera, but actually like ninety percent of
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: the guests are like behind the scenes. Who are actually
• 44:57
  Speaker 5: the people that bought that magic from like age to screen.
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: And I feel like the studio tour and I like
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: to think like my podcast is like a love letter
• 45:05
  Speaker 5: to them and all the effort and time they put
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: in to like get things right. And I always say,
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: like when we filmed like Diagonally and Honey Dukes, I
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: remember going into Honey Jukes and all the sweets being
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: like branded and just the detail that went into like everything,
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: and you just think, oh my goodness, you might not
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: even see this, this might not even end up on camera,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: but you know, the art department has spent hours like
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: creating this this shop that is just incredible. So when
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: you go to the studio tour and you get to
• 45:36
  Speaker 5: actually like walk down diagon Alley and see things like that,
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: I just think it's such like I'm just so pleased
• 45:41
  Speaker 5: that the people who worked on that are having their
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: work shown in that way that you can see those details,
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: because it's just like incredible. But when I go back,
• 45:51
  Speaker 5: it's it is funny because it looked nothing like that.
• 45:53
  Speaker 5: When we were there. It was I'm sure you guys
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: have heard this before. It was like the most run down, drafty, leaky,
• 46:01
  Speaker 5: old like airfield thing that when also because I'd like
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: never worked on a film before, and I just thought,
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: like studios, it's going to be really glamorous. It's going
• 46:11
  Speaker 5: to be like it is in La, It's like Hollywood.
• 46:13
  Speaker 5: So when I turned out, I was like, is this right?
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Because this is what I was imagining it. But I
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: did become like but I think that's why I love
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: it so much, because it's like that run down oldness
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: of it. But it became like our home, Like I
• 46:29
  Speaker 5: spent more time there than I did at home, so
• 46:32
  Speaker 5: it was like this I just fell in love with
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: the place. So there's a tiny part of me that's
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: a little bit sad when I go there because it's
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: not how I remember it. And it was all sort
• 46:44
  Speaker 5: of like where the car park is was all overgrown,
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: and we used to play like play out there and
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: do like capture Have you ever played the game like
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Capture the Flag all the time? Yeah, Like we played
• 46:55
  Speaker 5: that in like the long Grass, And then there was
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: like a little cup bit where people would play like
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: like the crew would play like football or like basic
• 47:02
  Speaker 5: little Americans they do like baseball games and like softball
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: stuff like that, and it was just like a real mishmash.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: So a tiny part of me, even though like I
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: am so pleased they've turned it into the studio Tour,
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: there is a tiny part of me that's like, oh,
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: this isn't really how I remember. It's changed. And now
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: when we were there, there was pretty much only Harry
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: Potter ever filming there, But now there's like loads of
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: films go. It's like a huge thing. They've like really
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: turned it into like mega And my sister in law,
• 47:28
  Speaker 5: she works in film, and she told me, like there's
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: a Starbucks there. Now, I was like a Starbucks, What
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: we don't have anything like that. We had amazing cater
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: and so I can't like not saying that was our Starbucks.
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: But yeah, cool.
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: And then so kind of like going back a little
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: bit when we were talking about that like family Aspect,
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: and you kind of mentioned especially with Chris Columbus and
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: those first two films, so you know you were also
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: there for the director change of Prisoner of Azkaban. Could
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: you tell us a little bit about what that was like.
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, So I think everyone was like quite sad when
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: the new sort of like spread that Chris wasn't wasn't
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: coming back, but he was staying in a producer role,
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: but he wasn't coming back to direct, which just to
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: add in, I actually think was probably the best decision
• 48:22
  Speaker 5: ever because I feel like the films that needed to
• 48:25
  Speaker 5: do that gear change into slightly like darker film and
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: I think like one hundred someone like Alphonso coming in
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: to make that gear change was really good and it
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: actually did feel like a gear change. It felt a
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: lot more grown up when alphons said, okay, he's I
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: remember Alphonsa being so lovely, like really warm person, actually
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: very funny and really not serious. But I think it
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: was a lot more like big kid rules, and he
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: would sort of I think Chris Columbus would like handhold
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: a little bit more, where as Alfon so it would
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: be a bit more like you've got it, just try it,
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: like do it you got And I remember like speaking
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: to Chris Rankin, who played Percy Weasley, who I'm still
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: friends with, he said that like he wouldn't really direct
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: you in and out of a scene. He would just
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: be like, enter the scene. And I think Christin would
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: more be like, Okay, why didn't you like come around
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: the corner and then stand here, address the students and
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: then go over there, whereas like Alfonso would be like
• 49:26
  Speaker 5: and go and he'd be like, well, you know your character,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: you should do what you think? He would do how
• 49:30
  Speaker 5: he would enter a scene, how he would exit a scene?
• 49:32
  Speaker 5: Would he say that? Would you not? And I think
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: that was like the shift in their styles. But like
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: I said, I think one hundred percent it was the
• 49:39
  Speaker 5: right direction because the films are a bit like Christopher
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: Askaban's actually quite dark. And also I think like the kids,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: like I think, like Dan Rupert and everyone, they needed
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: that little gear change in them having a bit more
• 49:52
  Speaker 5: ownership over the characters and how they were portrayed, and
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: like even just like tiny things. I don't know you
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: might have noticed this when you're watching the film, like
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: the first two with uniform. They obviously changed the uniform
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: from second to third, but it was everyone's tie in
• 50:08
  Speaker 5: the first two films was like done up, top button,
• 50:10
  Speaker 5: done up, proper tie. And then Alfonso came and was like, well, no,
• 50:14
  Speaker 5: do your tie. How you think your character would do
• 50:17
  Speaker 5: their tie? Like Hermione of course would probably have her
• 50:20
  Speaker 5: top button done up. But then I remember like Devin
• 50:23
  Speaker 5: who played like Sea mus Finnegan, was like, well, no,
• 50:26
  Speaker 5: he wouldn't have his top bite. He'd probably have like
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: a shorter tie and a bit more like perhaps scruffy
• 50:30
  Speaker 5: and stuff. And I think like when you really like
• 50:33
  Speaker 5: look at Prisoner of Radzkaban and I think, especially behind set,
• 50:38
  Speaker 5: that was a real change in the children actors taking
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: ownership over their characters. And I think that's the best
• 50:44
  Speaker 5: because they had to navigate them through these stories for
• 50:47
  Speaker 5: another like seven years, and I think like Alfonso sort
• 50:50
  Speaker 5: gave them permission to do that. I think Chris would
• 50:53
  Speaker 5: have done that, Like it wasn't that Chris didn't want
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: to do that, but like actually they needed their handholding
• 50:58
  Speaker 5: those first two films. It would have been silly for
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: Chris to just go do what you want, like they
• 51:02
  Speaker 5: would have been like ha. But it just shows like
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: David Hayman made like the most perfect choice and he's
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: really just like selled that Harry Potter ship like perfectly
• 51:14
  Speaker 5: through that ten year run in terms of his choice
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: of crew and a specifically director.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's almost like Chris walked so Alfon so could run.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Yes, that is exactly that is exactly it. And I
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: feel like definitely, I think the later producers will say
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: they really like reaped the benefits of like the work
• 51:34
  Speaker 5: that Chris put in, getting like the kids really confident
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: and you know, getting to know their characters. So yeah, yeah,
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: they also talked about that before.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Like feeling like the directors and the scores and everything
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: and the changes they're always worked well for the film
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: that it was meant to be.
• 51:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, totally Yeah.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: And speaking of the costumes, they always say, like I
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: remember an interview MS saying no more itchy jumpers. Now
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: I get to wear jeans and I get to wear
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: like cool cool hoo hoodies. And did they also give
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: them freedom to choose their own, you know, costumes or
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: was it still kind of.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know if they ever. I think they
• 52:20
  Speaker 5: definitely had discussions about what they'd wear, and I think, like, again,
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: you definitely see a shift in the first due to
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: the third film, Like obviously I can only really mainly
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: talk about those ones, that's what I worked on. But yeah,
• 52:33
  Speaker 5: like the first two films, I think the idea is
• 52:36
  Speaker 5: that they kind of wanted the costumes to be a
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: bit timeless in the first couple of films, like I know,
• 52:42
  Speaker 5: like we kind of know when it was set, but
• 52:45
  Speaker 5: I think they didn't want it to look so you
• 52:48
  Speaker 5: watch Harry Potter now to be like, oh my god,
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: that looks really dated in what they're watched, what they're wearing.
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: So I think they went with quite traditional like British
• 52:57
  Speaker 5: wear in terms of like the knitted jumper and stuff
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: like that. But when they moved onto the third film,
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: it would have been ridiculous. If I think back to
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: one of the costumes, like the non uniform costumes so
• 53:09
  Speaker 5: like civies that they that Hermione wore in the first film,
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: it was like a knitter jumper and a kilt and
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: like could we see Hermione running up like the hillsides
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: in Scotland trying to fill like free buckbeak in a
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: kilt like that just.
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: Didn't in Willow, Yeah, exactly.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Like it just and she like again, so I was
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: spoken to like costume like Lauren who worked in costume,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: and he was like she was you know Hermione was
• 53:40
  Speaker 5: like and I think again it's natural that. I don't
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: know if you guys, but I definitely think what I
• 53:45
  Speaker 5: got sort of thirteen, I found my style a bit more.
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: Maybe your parents stopped influencing what you wear as much.
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: So it totally made sense that when she sort of
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: became thirteen fourteen and she was like a young, like
• 53:58
  Speaker 5: athletic woman, she would be a girl. Well she would
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: be wearing like jeans and a hoodie and you know
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: that sort of thing. So it evolved, and it did.
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: Really it was amazing when they started letting Hermione where
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: her hair up, because the first two films is pretty
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: much down the whole time, apart from like I think
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: one scene maybe it's the scene with the poggot where
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: she has like two bits back, but I mean, like,
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: we know that's not girls would not wear their hair
• 54:22
  Speaker 5: down every day, like it's just not so yeah, it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 5: like fun we're doing like fun head if we're gonna
• 54:27
  Speaker 5: go in to save the hippogriff, like we're wearing a bun. No,
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: she actually doesn't. She wears her hair down for that,
• 54:32
  Speaker 5: but I think just like an example of how she
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: had to like evolve and yeah, the costumes definitely evolved.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So just kind of wrapping up our questions
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: to you, I did want to ask you how did
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: you get started with your podcast Behind the wand and
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: kind of what was the inspiration to start doing this?
• 54:57
  Speaker 5: So do you know what? I really wish I could
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: say that it just came to me that this would
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: be a good podcast, but I really can't. I have
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: a friend Chris shout out to Chris and his journalist
• 55:10
  Speaker 5: and he always said to him or like said to me, oh,
• 55:14
  Speaker 5: you should do a podcast about unusual jobs in the
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: film industry. He was like, I think like people sort
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: of no stunt doubles. But whenever he like he'd liked
• 55:24
  Speaker 5: Harry Potters, he'd like ask me a bit about like
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: when I'm working. He was like, you know, I think
• 55:28
  Speaker 5: it's like interesting. I think there's like a whole world
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: out there that people might not be as aware of,
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: you know, obviously like film fans. I'm not saying I'm
• 55:35
  Speaker 5: breaking like breaking news of stuff that goes on in
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: the film industry, but just maybe more that everyday film
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: people might film fan might not know about. But I
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: kind of wasn't sure. I'm like, actually, like, naturally, I'm
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: a little bit shy, don't really like putting myself out there,
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: and it felt like quite exposing to do that and
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: find people who might want to be on the podcast.
• 55:58
  Speaker 5: And I was like, well they even want to talk
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: about it, like going back twenty years, I don't know.
• 56:04
  Speaker 5: So he always said I sho do it and I
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: was like, I don't, don't I don't know. And then
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: obviously COVID happened and I was in my had a
• 56:11
  Speaker 5: lot of free time on my hands, so I was like,
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: do you know what, I'm just going to like email
• 56:16
  Speaker 5: a few people that I still kind of know have
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: their contact details and just see if they'd be up
• 56:21
  Speaker 5: for speaking with me. And the first person I actually
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: emailed was Nick Dugman, who did the cat makeup, and
• 56:25
  Speaker 5: I was like, Hey, Nick, would you be interested in
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: just chatting to me or be like an hour over zoom,
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: just like reminiscing about our time working on the films,
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: and like, to my surprise, he came back and was
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: like absolutely, like I'd love to do that. It's like
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: great to like chat to you. And I think it's
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: so funny for them because they just remember me as
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: like a ten year old girl and now I'm back,
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: like married with two kids, like in my thirties. They're
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: like what, oh my gosh. And so it's just like
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: lovely catching up and then it just sort of snowballed
• 56:53
  Speaker 5: from that and everyone I speak to will be like, oh,
• 56:55
  Speaker 5: you need to talk to this person. And then I
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: spoke to John Seal, who was like, oh, you need
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: to speak to Richard Francis Bruce. He was the other
• 57:02
  Speaker 5: Australian on the film, and he put me in touch
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: with it. And it's kind of just like been like
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: that in terms of getting guests. And then it's just
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: been like, I mean, like, there's nothing that makes me
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: happier than when somebody says like they've listened to the
• 57:15
  Speaker 5: podcast and enjoyed it, and it's just been like so
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: lovely that actually a lot of people do tune in
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: and seem to like the stories that people tell, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: I think they like that it's stuff that they people
• 57:27
  Speaker 5: that obviously they have done interviews. But I try and
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: find people that you might not have had so many
• 57:32
  Speaker 5: interviews from and haven't heard as much from, and try
• 57:35
  Speaker 5: and talk to them about things that might not have
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: been you know, not the big headlines and actually the
• 57:39
  Speaker 5: smaller little things that happen. And like, for example, there's
• 57:43
  Speaker 5: a woman I always talk about her because she was
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: just amazing. Her name's Celia, and like when I was
• 57:50
  Speaker 5: when I was like researching her, I actually can't find
• 57:52
  Speaker 5: any interviews with her. Her name's Celia Barnett, and she
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: was a researcher, and I mean the impact have had
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: on the films and what we actually see is incredible
• 58:03
  Speaker 5: because she would basically advise the art department on like
• 58:06
  Speaker 5: the things they would be creating, the characters that and
• 58:08
  Speaker 5: like creature effects on the characters they'd be creating, and
• 58:11
  Speaker 5: she would like go out and like do research and
• 58:13
  Speaker 5: like one of the example that I normally use is
• 58:16
  Speaker 5: she went to like the Royal Veterinary College and spoke
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: to people about like what the like wing to body
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: ratio would have to be for a hippogriff to actually
• 58:25
  Speaker 5: be able to fly. And that is a sort of
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: like detail she went to like Q Gardens to look
• 58:30
  Speaker 5: at like plants to find it, like what man drakes
• 58:33
  Speaker 5: would look like, pop they would be in, like what
• 58:35
  Speaker 5: environment And even though these things are made up, that
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: is like the amount of detail they would put in,
• 58:41
  Speaker 5: and like Celia would put in so that when you're
• 58:44
  Speaker 5: watching things like I know that, but buck Beak looks
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: like he could exist somewhere, Like you could run into
• 58:51
  Speaker 5: buck Beak in the Scottish Highlands, you could go to
• 58:54
  Speaker 5: Q Gardens and see a man drake plant And I
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: just feel like, yeah, I just so Celia's always and
• 59:01
  Speaker 5: I mean that's just one person out of like I
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: think I've interviewed over like thirty people now and just
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: like those little things she told me about the work
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: she did on buck Beacon, Mandrake and aragog and stuff,
• 59:12
  Speaker 5: I just and foks like the feet are just all
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: those like characters. I think we really love the amount
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: of like the real round level research that she did
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: is just unbelievable. And there's just like stories like that
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: throughout like every guest I always find out something new,
• 59:26
  Speaker 5: and I just I love it, and I think that's
• 59:28
  Speaker 5: what other people enjoy about the podcast too. I like
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: to think.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: That's awesome.
• 59:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I think it's great that you bring that forward
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: because it's like, if you're real, like you said, if
• 59:39
  Speaker 4: you're someone who's really into films, you really you know,
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: you like learning about all those things that go into
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: you know, making a film. But if you're just like
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: a casual film viewer, it's like you're just kind of
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: watching it and it's.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, this is cool, this is cool.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: But there's so many people that do such great work
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes, and I don't think they get enough
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: you know, spotlight or praise, and there really the ones
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: that are like bringing that magic to life. Like obviously
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: you can't do it without your actors, but those people
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: behind the scenes are really what's creating the film totally.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 5: And I mean people always be like interview Daniel Radclif,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: Interview Daniel Racliffe. Don't get me wrong, if Dan wanted
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 5: to come on the podcast, I would, yeah, But I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: don't think Dan would say anything to me that you
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: guys wouldn't have heard before. And that's not like maybe
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: he would maybe we would have some sort of like
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: joke about being children. I guess that's like a unique
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: thing we would have had, is that we were both children.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 5: A lot of the people I speak to we are
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: adults on the film. But I just I just the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: thing I really love is just getting those stories that
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 5: I'm like, I've never heard that before, Like how did
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: I not know that that was part of the filmmaking
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 5: process or the detail energy someone's put into something. Yeah,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: so yeah, I totally agree with you said, Nicole.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, awesome, very cool. We love hearing all these
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: stories about the set and just it's so interesting and
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: it's such a you know, you were saying everyone who
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: works on the films has this unique bond. But I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: feel like the fans also have this thing where it's
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: like hearing these really niche things like you're talking about
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: talking about it leak e kon.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: We're like super into that too.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: So it's like this thing that kind of everyone has
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: in common, which I think is so cool to still
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: talk about so many years later.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh. I have to ask you guys though,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 5: are you excited for the series or are you like
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: pro series or like nay series?
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: So we're like split on this. I think, right, yeah,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I'm really interested. I'm nervous, but
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: I'm excited.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like cautiously optimistic.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I think Amy and I are have like have similar
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: feelings about it.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: Tom's the one that's like a little more apprehensive.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have such an attachment to the films,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: and you know, as a fan, I love the books,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: but the films were everything to me growing up, and
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: it's very hard for me to imagine someone else taking
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: on the roles and just having a new visual adaptation.
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: I think there were other ways that it could be,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: Like animated would be amazing, and there's a lot of
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: mediums where I think would work much better. I'm not
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: sure a live action is the best way to go,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: especially with the film still being so recent and being
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 3: so popular, like people are still watching it. I have, like,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 3: you know, even five year olds, like you know, nephews
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: who are watching the films and discovering them, and you know,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: it's it's still going on. So I mean, I'm a
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: little scared of what's going what's going to happen with
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: the legacy of the films once the series comes out
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: and how you know. So I'm a little yeah, I'm
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: kind of like skeptical and apprehensive a little bit.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally understand, Like it's I mean, it's such
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 5: a I think it's like such a double edged sort
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 5: that anything like New Harry Potter. I love the universe
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: like because like besides even like having anything to do
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: with the film, Like I'm a real like fantasy girl,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 5: like I love you know, I'd love to be a wait,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: I'd love to go to Hogwarts. Like that's like me anyway,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: So like any sort of like new magical material I'm
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 5: like super excited for because I want to like lean
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 5: into that Harry Potter universe because I love it so much.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: But it's just I just am like struggling to it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: the casting for me that I think I can't get over.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: I feel like I have such deep emotional attachments to
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: like you know, Dumbledore and Snape and McGonagall and Hagrid
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: and you know that. I just I'm gonna who's going
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 5: to take on that part? But I'm hoping they'll do it.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: Once we've watched the first episode, it will be a
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: success and then we can like all let our guard
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: down and just like really enjoy the following of it,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: but it's it's so hard. I feel like a lot
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: you know, you want new, it's new Harry Potter. But
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: like so many people have said to me as well,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: like they would love like a Marauders story, and I
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 5: do hope that they do something like that. There's so
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: much the untapped stories that I just would love them
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 5: to get into. But then also excited that they said
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: they're going to keep so much more of the book,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: Like it was also like I love the books, like
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: love the books, and I'm hoping they do stay true
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: to I think they did say they were going to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: try and stay truer to like lots of plots that
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: were in the storylines in the book that didn't make
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: it on into the film, like when Hermione starts the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 5: whole thing for the house Elves, like I want that
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: to begin, you know, Like there's a little things like that.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: I think, Yeah, I hope they decide to sort of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 5: add those bits in. And I think like when Harry
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: gives like Fred and George the money from the Trivers
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 5: had competition to start up, like those little things. I
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: just feel like the books just makes you like love
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 5: the characters that you don't get to see in the film.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, interpretations of the characters and get you know, have
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: their own spin on them because sometimes the movies portray
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: them a little different from the books. So it's going
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 3: to be interesting to see how these new how this
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 3: new Hermione is, you know.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think it would be sad if they
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: did just try and do like a replica of Emma's Hermione. Yeah,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: you know, I think it would be great if they
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: you know, I mean, there's only so far, like so
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 5: far you can do it, But I definitely agree with you, Tom,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 5: I think like the characters can be interpreted definitely in
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 5: a different way that would be really exciting to watch.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm. And everything, like the whole lore, the world,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: the you know, the sets, everything. If it's going to
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: be a one to one adaptation like a very faithful
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: book to screen, it could be like a different reinterpretation
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: of everything that we know. So it stands on its
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: own in that sense. So it's kind of like two
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 3: things coexisting. That's you know how I feel like I
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: would like it to unfold, like having two things coexist
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: at the same time, both films and TV show and people,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of loving both and still you know,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: being very engaged in it all. So I mean, only
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: time will tell, but yeah, we'll just have to.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: Wait because I've heard that they've actually people have started
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: like working on it in the art department with concept arts.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 5: And I'm actually interviewing one of the concept artists next week.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 5: What a series, And I'm like definitely going to be
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: saying to him, like, do you know anyone working on it?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 5: Like what you're seeing, what you're hearing, but we need
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: to know. I can't wait until it comes out to
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: know what's going on, Like we need to know. But
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: I'm sure anybody working on it has got an NDA
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 5: so that they basically cannot say anything, but still like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: I need to know and need to know what direction
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 5: we're going in and what they're doing. Yeah, anyway, a
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 5: whole different thing, isn't it? The series? But yeah, but no,
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 5: thank you so much for having me on and speaking
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 5: to me and let me talk to you about Yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: my very small part in it. It's been really lovely. Yeah,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 5: for sure.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: If like, if listeners are interested in finding you on
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: social media or behind the wand on social media, where
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: should they look?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: Yes, you can find me on Instagram, and I'm just
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: at flick dot Miles and I am I am TikTok,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: but I actually don't really use it, and I think
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: my insert I think my TikTok account is at flick
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 5: dot mask. But anything like podcast related, anything news wise
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 5: to do with behind the wand goes onto my Instagram.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: That's probably the best place to find updates on that
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: and to find me. It's a real mishmash of like
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 5: Harry Potter and then my children.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, well, awesome, thank you so much
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: for coming on the show. We really enjoyed talking with you.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: So thank you, Thank you for coming. A pleasure having you.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: Thank you so much by.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: Sonoy.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: So for our last segment last episode, we asked you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: what do you think happens on the Missing Halloweens in
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: book five and six? So Felicia says the Harry Potter
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: Lexicon has put together excellent book by book timelines. For
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: book five, the first quidditch match is November two, and
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: given that Angelina is just as bad as would when
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: it comes to working her team hard, I bet they're
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: practicing on Halloween. And for book six, it says Katie
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: is cursed on either October twelfth or October nineteenth, but
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: I really like the idea of that taking place on
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: Halloween two, which is what we discussed as well. Very spooky,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: very dark. And then Jerry says, this is a long
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: one from Jerry, so yeah, so she's saying thanks for
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: the fun Halloween segment. Lots of thought provoking ideas, including
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  Speaker 3: those essays mentioned near the end, which I had read
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  Speaker 3: before and was trying to remember during the podcast. My
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  Speaker 3: theory about the missing Halloween event in book five was
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  Speaker 3: that it was supposed to be in competition for the
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  Speaker 3: darkest Halloween in the series. I remember that the author
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  Speaker 3: said at one time that she had intended Arthur to
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  Speaker 3: be killed in the snake attack, and that the death
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  Speaker 3: of Lupin in the last battle was to create a
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  Speaker 3: tragic death of a father as a sort of replacement. Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I remember that, so interesting bits she says.
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  Speaker 3: My theory is that the deadly snake attack was supposed
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  Speaker 3: to take place at Halloween, but that when the author
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  Speaker 3: decided to let Arthur live, the attack was moved to
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  Speaker 3: Christmas so that it was easier for his children to
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  Speaker 3: take off from school to be able to visit him
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  Speaker 3: at the hospital, thus giving us that delightful bit of
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  Speaker 3: good time and a very dark book with Harry spending
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  Speaker 3: Christmas at Grimmel Place with most of his favorite pace
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  Speaker 3: around him and giving a serious happy time before his end.
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  Speaker 3: Also and giving the readers all that useful info from
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  Speaker 3: the trip to the hospital, including an update on Luckhart,
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  Speaker 3: learning more about Neville's parents, seeing the deadly gift given
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  Speaker 3: to Bode, et cetera. The happy ending and snake attacked
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  Speaker 3: at Christmas was much more useful than a fatal snake
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  Speaker 3: attack at Halloween. That how at Halloween could have been
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  Speaker 3: just one theory. Yeah, I love that bit about them
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  Speaker 3: spending it at Sat Mongo's because it kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you get a lot of information in that
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  Speaker 3: chapter and it's a it's really interesting Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that too because I think I had
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  Speaker 2: said that.
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  Speaker 4: I think I had put the snake attack as the
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  Speaker 4: Halloween event that I think would have happened in that
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  Speaker 4: book too. But this gives really good perspective of how
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  Speaker 4: it actually While it seems like it fits the bill
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  Speaker 4: to kind of make that be that Halloween event, why
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  Speaker 4: it kind of ended up being so crucial to happen
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  Speaker 4: at Christmas, because, like Jerry said, we wouldn't have really
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  Speaker 4: been able to get all these other things that came
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  Speaker 4: out of that whole thing happening at Christmas if it
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  Speaker 4: had happened at Halloween.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm h yeah, So thank you Jerry. Nice nice theories.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely.
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  Speaker 1: So that brings us to our discussion question for this episode.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So really a fun episode. Love hearing from people with
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: great memories from working on the films. I think it's
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  Speaker 1: very very interesting to hear those firsthand stories.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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