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B4evaKool "race a motorcycle" Podcast S2 Ep. 7 · B 4EVA Kool "Race A Motorcycle" Podcast

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Hey, my name is Rex 45. It's the Be Forever Cool
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podcast. I'm here with TJ from Two Wheels
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and Coffee. What's going on, man?
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What's going on a long time, man.
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Listen, I'm traveling, you racing, doing track days, you
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doing it all. So you know, I know what it is.
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I'm learning from the best you know is that what?
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Is that what you go with? I like that.
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You know, they all encouraged me to try all this new stuff.
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You know, just see what it's about no no doubt.
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How is trying to new stuff. Let's let's get everybody caught
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up because I've been I've been doing a few episodes now and
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getting people caught up with my story.
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So let's get everyone caught up with you, man.
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Yeah, I mean this year has been amazing.
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I mean, as far as the club racing, all the rounds are over.
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So it was 7 rounds and I actually completed all seven
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this year. I mean, I didn't participate in
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like 6 races that weekend, but you know, I was there for you
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know, the camaraderie and did like two or three races.
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But I participated all 7 rounds. As I mentioned before in the
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past episodes that Latta was the only track I've been to.
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So this year I really stretched or spread my wings, I should
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say, OK, you know, I did the Poconos and Pennsylvania.
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Let's talk about that, Talk about that a little bit like
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what's it like? I've never been to the Poconos.
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So what's it like? Well, it was my first time
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obviously, but we went to do Ducati Revs event with Josh
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Herron and. And you know, it was fun.
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It was like it was a flat track. I wasn't a flat track, but the
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surface wasn't more of like how we're used to it loud.
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And so there wasn't more. So much demand on yourself is
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more like you can practice and get in your flow, get your group
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back. OK, so I thought it was fun.
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We was around a lot of Ducatis and, you know, a lot of
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professional races like Josh Hammond, Yabby Forez.
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PJ Jacobson and a couple other versus was there how you see
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you? Yeah, not You're getting your
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skills up. Well, you know, I it was fun.
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That was, that was the first session of the year.
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So that was my first track I've been to besides Loudon.
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OK And how, how did you feel about it?
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Like learning the new track, You know, just being on a new track
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after being at Loudon for a few years now, what was that like?
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Yeah. Well, I'll, I'll pass it on is
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when you go to a new track, you always want to get a layout.
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You know, I went with my friend Nick, and as I mentioned before,
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if you ever watched the episodes that I didn't get a track map
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and I used him as my map as a reference when we went out.
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Yeah. So we went out on the session.
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I just made sure I followed him and and see what type of markets
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he used. And I just kind of adjusted to
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my level, you know, a couple sessions after and you know
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after. You do two or three sessions,
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you know, you feel more comfortable on your own, right,
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to put in more fast times out there.
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So that that was a fun experience.
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You know, traveling to a different state, you know, New
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Hampshire is what for me, an hour and a half, two hours with
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traffic. So this one is, you know, it's
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going really far. So I'm like, all right, I gotta
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make it worth it. So it was.
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It was definitely worth it. Besides that, I went to New York
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safety track not over the course of the year.
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I've been three Times Now. So the first time, the first
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time was pretty cool. So all three times was amazing
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and and then I did a Tony track day event with that Thompson in
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Connecticut. So now, unfortunately that was
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the rain race rain day. So got my feet were in the rain
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too, so I got accomplished a whole bunch.
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Nice. So now you've been to Thompson,
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you've been to New York Safety, Poconos and Loudon.
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How is that? How do you feel now?
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Right, Because you've gone to 3 tracks this year.
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You added three tracks to to your resume this year.
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What's that like as far as, like, you know, when you go back
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to Loudon after going to these tracks now, do you look at
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Loudon differently? Do you feel like, wow, okay, you
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know, how do you how do you look at things now?
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Because for me it was it was definitely I I opened after
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after going to some some tracks, after just being at one track
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for a long period of time. Oh, it was for sure.
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And I opened it. But I won't be the one to say a
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lot of sucks. No, that's where I was born and
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bred. No, no, no.
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I'm just saying. I'm just saying I'm not going
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that way at all. It was it was more just like
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technical, you know riding in in just different corners and stuff
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like that, not whether you know we know why people.
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Don't like Loudon, but well, yeah, that's what I was saying.
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So I was born in Loudon basically, so I would never say
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Loudon sucks, but all these other tracks for sure was an eye
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opener, especially going to New York safety track where it's
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just it's a lot more corners than Loudon and it takes a lot
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longer to get around. It's a lot of banking corners,
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downhills and it's just trees everywhere.
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So it's a whole different environment.
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And then, like Poconos was very flat.
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Surface, you know, just, you know, pretty big track.
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But you know, it wasn't a lot of ups and downs, It was just
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corners, you know, right? It was, it was definitely not
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open to see what other layouts had to offer compared to just
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looking at the ground and louding.
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You could see like 10 feet down and with all the cracks and
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crevices there. So yeah.
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No, it definitely wasn't saying it wasn't unnecessary.
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What what you like better. It's just more like, OK, you
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know for me after being at Loudon for so long and then
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going to a new track, I was, I realized I couldn't turn right.
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You know what I'm saying? Because it's not a lot of right
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turns that Loudon that you know and and so like for me it was
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just like oh, OK now which you know and I, you know a few years
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later, I feel so comfortable going right where before, you
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know, I didn't And so I didn't know if you noticed anything
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like with your riding style after hitting some other tracks.
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Well, I've noticed that New York safety track, they do have like
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a right-hander where you're doing pretty high speeds after
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like the wheelie hill where I found myself like wow, I can get
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off the bike, lean it to the right where I'm not that
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comfortable with, but. I do struggle with heartbreaking
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and then leaning to the right and trying to accelerate.
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It's more of the entire feel I guess, I guess.
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But I definitely, yeah, I would say your safety track can help
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you with each corner because they have about equal.
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I'm not left and right hands. Yeah, yeah I I think, you know
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the more tracks you go to the more diverse your writing skill
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becomes because you just see so many different things and and
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now you know when you go back to some like when I went back to
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Loudon I didn't notice things I didn't notice before and so you
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know it does help and same thing with all these other tracks that
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I've that I've gone to. So definitely it's a plus.
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Well, I must say that. There was a lot of difference in
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the other track, I would say the New York safety track because
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they don't have corner workers at every corner like like we do
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at race tracks. So they have actual like lights.
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So you got to pay attention to it's kind of like F1.
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So they have like a blinking red light if it's a red flag or
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blinking yellow or yellow light. So you kind of got to pay
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attention to the lights as you're going through the
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corners. It's a little different, little
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different and. But you're not going that race
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pace. So it's also like a little
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easier to see. But it's different.
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Yeah, for sure. I think every organization,
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every track, you have to definitely pay attention at the
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writers meeting and make sure you know what's going on.
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So when you get out there, you know what's going on, cuz
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they're not all the same. The standard is not all the
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same. Yeah, that's one thing I do
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recommend wherever you're coming from.
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You get all your group of friends together and just make
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sure you guys make the right of this meeting.
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Yeah, definitely it is, it is. It'll make the day go by a lot
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quicker because when you you know, I mean I think on a race
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day it it's it's might be more critical because like for
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instance if you don't know your grid position or if you don't
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know races have been moved around and stuff like that.
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You know you can find yourself with a big bike in in a in a 300
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class or 400 class or vice versa.
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So you know that that's important.
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Maybe in a, in a in a in a track.
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There you may be in the wrong group or something like that.
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But that that's easier to deal with, you know what I'm saying?
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Well, you know, it's just it is important to to be at the right
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as me because when you want to ask questions after if you was
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there, it could have been answered right.
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It just slows the process down for everybody else.
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So, so now. But, you know, go ahead.
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Everyone, everyone was gonna say everyone can try their best, but
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you know, it always, something always happens.
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So correct. Now you found yourself in motor
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America in Jersey. What was that like?
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I mean, as a spectator going to Jersey.
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I will say after doing a couple of super bike classes at Jersey
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early this year, I have to, I might have to say jerseys are my
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top three for one of my favorite tracks.
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Now that I I know I won't say I know how to ride it, but I feel
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like I know how to ride it. Well, before I get into the
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jersey part, I remember doing when I first started racing that
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when it was LRS and I was Nemer. We used to do rounds in Jersey
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and I'm just like, oh, I couldn't afford to go there,
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right. And now I wish.
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I wish I've gone, You know, like.
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I, you know, it was pretty wet when I went to see more America.
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It was raining the whole weekend.
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But it's just another good experience to see all of these
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professional races just still have to go out there and put it
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down, you know, And it was unbelievable from what I saw on
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online. Yeah, it's crazy like seeing
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what online and all the crashes and and and the spectacular
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things happen, but when you're there, you know if you had a
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certain corner, you kind of you don't see everything.
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So it's good to pay attention to that too.
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But. Just walking around, it just
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felt, it felt like loud in a way, because everybody was
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friendly. Yep, there's races everywhere
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and I'll say enough to cut you off.
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I'll say that. That's like that at a lot of
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tracks. At most tracks I've been to,
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most people are friendly. I'm not the I'm easy going, but
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I don't approach people. But I do know like all the
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tracks people are. That's one of the beautiful
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things I think about motorcycle racing in general or just the
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motorcycle scene. People are very friendly.
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Yeah, so everywhere you go, people are not.
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You know, always friendly. Yeah, definitely going to a race
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track. It's not 100.
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It's not the norm. Yeah, yeah, you know it's not
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100. I mean people there's definitely
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riders or in their zone and they don't want to be bothered and
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and you know, but it is what it is, what it is.
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It's not. It's not 100% for sure, but
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definitely you know it's in the 80s.
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Well, I'm not saying like as riders in general, just saying
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like you know, people in general are just not always friendly.
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So going to a racetrack, it's always good to have.
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A friendly environment, it just makes things a lot better.
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So just walking around, seeing all the racers, it just just
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kind of felt like home and there was no like VIP access to like
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maybe to talk to him or get a picture or something.
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But right they were, they were walking out freely like Josh
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Heron was riding his pit bike to go watch at a corner.
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You know, Jake Gonyea was just standing out there just chatting
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with everybody and you know Hayden Gillum, you know, it's
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just everyone was out there and. It's funny that all the Motor
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America guys, that the top guys, they had the paddocks and
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everyone else had to pit out like like the rest of us.
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Yeah, the rest of us. So shout out to all the Loudon
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guys, but they weren't in the paddock.
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Right, right, right. No, listen, man, you get.
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So that's a whole another experience.
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Yeah, you get in where you fit in.
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For sure it is. You know at the end of the day I
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it is definitely a love of motorcycle racing while we get
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out there and and and deal with the conditions we deal with cuz
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you know, we're not Moto GP or World Super Bike, but you know
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we come, we set up for the weekend and then we break down
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and we go home, you know, yeah. So it was pretty cool because
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going down there with a couple of my friends and you know, I
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went to watch the professional guys.
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But along the course of the way we found out there was about.
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You know four or five kids from you know our club racing that's
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going to be participating and you know was shout out Eli Block
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because he participated in the loud and classic and the whole
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time before the, you know months before the race he always wanted
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rain and I'm like this kid just wants rain like and this weekend
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of the North America it was rain all weekend so.
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And his race to see him come in first place for both of his
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races is amazing, amazing, very dope and it's it's one of those
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things that I don't know what the right words are but Eli is
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such a talented kid and I hope this opened the door for him to
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give him opportunities to do so much more and flourish.
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You know what I'm saying? Because I don't want to
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necessarily compare him to Mesa, but it's one of those things
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that you know, motorcycle racing is a very expensive sport and
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and a lot of talented riders. So sometimes you know you see
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talented riders that don't have the, the, you know the the
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support behind them to get them where they need to get to the
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level. Doesn't mean they're not as good
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as the guys that got the support.
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It just mean it's just it's just not a lot of teams in motor in
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in mode America there was not a lot of teams and probably in a
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lot of the, you know, Canadian, Australian world super, not
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world super BSB, a lot of these, you know, continental racing for
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lack of better or maybe countries, the major countries.
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You know, I'm saying there's, you know, because it's a very
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expensive sport. So, you know, it was awesome to
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see and I and I hope those wins open the door for him to really,
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you know, get him to one of these teams because the kid is
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fast on anything. It is crazy to see, like, you
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know, him being all these kids. I just just know what he could
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do. I allowed it.
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It's just like, yeah, these kids are fast because, you know, you
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know, there's a couple other races in the same class, the
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400. There's a lot of kids.
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There's a lot of young kids there, you know, like there's
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Eli, Adam, Scrawl, Rene, Franco. Our club racing community was
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doing very well out there, but Eli put it down, you know, and
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it was just good to see. Nice.
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Definitely. I and I and I do wish him the
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best and I can't wait to see what happens next season.
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Speaking of of stuff because we haven't even touched.
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I mean I don't know how much time we have left but I haven't
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even touched we haven't even touched on you know what's going
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on in in in there's a lot of noise going on over there in in
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your in your part of the woods there.
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TJ, it sounds like there's a there's a party going on, but we
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haven't. Talked about what are you
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talking about? There you go, well, let's talk
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about Moto GP and what's going on.
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You know, I've already, I've already give my opinion on Mark
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Marquez and Mobidelli and even Pedro, Cuz you know, all that's
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happening. So you know, I don't even know
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where to start. Let's talk with Mobidelli first,
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right. How do you feel about Mobidelli
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going to Pramec? Man, so obviously I refer every
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racer. But you know, when you have, So
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I feel really good about it and it just gives him a fresh start
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and I hope he takes advantage of it.
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And for anyone that has a clean slate, no matter what they've
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gone through, just a fresh start, there's always a breath
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of fresh air right where they can focus and and you know,
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whatever the mistakes they had before, even if anyone doubted
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them, they can fix it and try again.
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But I'd also another thing. I just know how much you love
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for. When I heard he's going to do
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copy, I was like all behave from Rexy, Rexy.
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So you know, my boy Jason, y'all chew me up.
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I just can't wait to see him, see what he could do, you know?
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Well, you know, you know what it is, TJ Here's the thing, right?
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Like Morbidelli was ridiculous in in Moto 2, right?
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And you know, he was on the Honda in 20.
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I think it was not 2019 when he get when he went, I think maybe
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2018 he might have got to Moto he might have got this world
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super Bike. I mean that world super bike
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Moto GP and I think it's 2018 don't don't hold me to that.
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And then he switched over to Yamaha in 2019.
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Right. And and so it it, you know he's
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one of these riders that like I I don't know if it was Yamaha
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not not running well or his injury you know causing him not
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to ride well. Like I don't I don't know.
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I don't know which one. I don't know what it was but
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it's one of he's like to me he's like Grant Hill.
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Obviously not as old as Grant Hill and for I'm showing my age
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cuz I should probably be talking about when these young people
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getting hurt. Right now I know what Grant Hill
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Danny held out like 10 years, came back and still was nice,
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you know what I'm saying? So it's one of those things
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like, no, don't get me wrong, if he goes to Ducati and suck right
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then obviously I'm eating dirt. But I feel like this is a dude
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that, like, he didn't get. He didn't get his proper shine
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because, and I've said this already on the show, I like, I I
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think he's better than Peco. Right.
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And I just think he was not because you know, it's like if
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you listen to the interviews and stuff like that it's like Rossi,
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then it's like Mobadelli, right. That that that's what it's like.
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And then it's like Peco Bezeki and the rest of them and and so,
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you know, and as Peco said in the interview, he's like, you
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know, practice is definitely gonna be more competitive now
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that he's on. He's gonna be on a pentagonlie,
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right? So the dude got, he has the
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skills, you know what I'm saying?
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He just doesn't have the machine underneath him.
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So you know, I'm, I'm excited for him.
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But I also feel for Bezeki, because Bezeki could have gone
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to Primac if he wanted to and Morbidelli could have gone to
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VR46. But I think it was like a
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pecking order, right? It's kind of like, you know what
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I'm saying? This dude is on a factory bike.
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You can't, you can't put him on on a VR46.
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You got to put him something close to factory, which is
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Pramac, you know what I'm saying?
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So, and I think they like Bezeki, was just like, I'll take
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one for the team. They're probably paying them the
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same money, no doubt, but I'll take one for the team and I'll
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stay with VR46 because he could. He definitely could have had his
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seat if he wanted it. I just don't understand how
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these factory teams was like Yamaha, knowing they have Fabio
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and Franco, you know? It's just like, I don't know, I
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can't compare it to another sport, but it's like us just
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letting Tatum and Jalen Brown walk, you know, because they're
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not satisfied with not winning a championship or something.
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You know, it's like they don't want to, you know, just seeing
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him go into a Ducati and then probably, you know, be an
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outstanding performer. Like how Alex Marquez, Yeah, you
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know. I will say this I think Yamaha
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messed up and and and and I think Yamaha didn't give him the
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support he needed when he was down and out because I I I think
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and and you're a bigger fan of Fabio than I am and I'm less of
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a fan of Fabio because when Fabio was winning he was kind of
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he he wasn't necessarily you know he was kind of like I don't
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worry about what what was going on at the box.
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You know what I'm saying? On the other side of the box.
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I don't worry about what's going on.
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I don't. I just worry about me.
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I just, you know what I'm saying.
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He wasn't he wasn't being supportive to me on camera.
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He wasn't being supportive of Morbidelli when he was going
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through the troubles and when he was winning.
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And now he's struggling, right? Like Mobodelli was struggling
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and and and and you see how he's reacting now and all that stuff
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and and and you know, I'm not saying here saying comma or
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whatever or whatever, but you know, Fabio was not a not to say
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you should be. You know, it's a single sport,
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right? You're on a team because there's
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two writers and stuff like that. But if you look at, you know
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Jack Miller and Peco, you look at Zako, you look at a lot of
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these guys. A lot of these guys are really
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you know, and maybe Frankie was in maybe in the background.
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Frankie was nasty to Fabio too. Who knows, right?
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I mean I I, I, you know, I'm not I'm not the, I don't know what
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it is. But you know when when when when
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Fabio was raining and on top he he, he really was just
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dismissing Frankie and and Yamaha did.
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I don't know if Yamaha did anything to to squash that or to
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quell it or to say, hey, Fabio, don't talk like that, right,
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Because we should be working together.
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And you see now with Ducati, with all these writers working
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together, you see what's happening.
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You see that with a prelia and KTM and now Yamaha Honda is
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trying to catch up. So you know he got a bad rap but
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I also feel bad about you know riders that are that are getting
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you know you know the Luko Ono the Garner.
22:09
You know what I'm saying? These guys that didn't really
22:11
get a chance but I think you know in in yeah you know what
22:15
I'm saying but but you know Frankie didn't get a chance and
22:18
and then I think when he got healthy his body hit the bike
22:22
wasn't right and and it is what it is.
22:24
So I'm I'm I'm hoping that like Zako.
22:27
Right because Zako left KTM and had no seat right and filled in
22:31
for Honda and got picked up by Ducati doing that right And you
22:34
look at and you look at you know Zako right now I'm not saying
22:38
Frankie's getting kicked out like that but I hope this is the
22:40
thing that you know he gets the Ducati and you know he's the one
22:46
of the top four guys in Ducati, right.
22:48
I see him as one of the top 4. Well, this is what I like to
22:51
see, you know, like like I said. All that's talked to, you talked
22:55
about morbid deli. Yeah, I love Fabio and I thought
23:00
they were great duo and it was tough seeing more deli at his
23:05
low. You know he got the knee injury
23:08
and it just wasn't the same. But.
23:11
I like to see this in Moto GP where they can, I don't wanna
23:15
say, recycle a rider, but like find another home from in Moto
23:19
GP, right? Not just like like equal like
23:21
one or Remy Gardner like one year.
23:23
See you later. Listen, if if you know so if if
23:25
if Frankie wasn't part of VR46, he'd be out of Moto GP.
23:32
Well, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.
23:33
So if he was like, paid him and I just, I just love like, you
23:37
know how? Even though I would, they
23:40
probably want to keep him. I just like how you know he's,
23:43
he's being treated even in Zarco.
23:44
You know what I'm saying? Just, yeah, No, listen.
23:46
They just they can still find a job with well, well, here's the
23:50
thing with here's the thing with Zarco before we go on to the
23:52
other riders. You know Zarco had a chance to
23:55
sign back with Pramak but it was a one year deal and and Honda
23:59
offered him a two year deal with a boatload of money.
24:02
So he he took that. So, you know, I'm not look, you
24:06
know, I don't think you know what Ducati did to like
24:13
Davisioso, Miller in that case of Zarco giving them one year
24:19
deal, one year deal. So they got to keep proving
24:21
themselves every year. You know, you look at, you look
24:25
at Miller now where he's at with a two year deal.
24:28
You look you know you look at Zarco now with the two year deal
24:30
because those guys, I'm not sitting here saying I listen I
24:33
got Ducatis and I love Ducatis. But you know those guys, yeah
24:37
they're not you know they didn't come out and and out the gate
24:40
like a PECO and and nobody expected Bezeki to be doing what
24:43
he's doing right or even Martine at this point.
24:45
You know these guys, you know these guys, these guys are doing
24:49
you know they're more consistent which is awesome for them.
24:52
But like the Miller, you know, these guys, they to me, they
24:55
didn't, they didn't show the same love and they've moved on
24:57
to better opportunities. And you know, I think Miller is
25:01
going to be synonymous with KTM for a very long time because
25:04
Miller put these guys from top ten to top five.
25:07
You know what I'm saying? And and I, I don't know what's
25:10
going to happen in Zako's case because you know, let's see what
25:13
happened with Honda. But probably he's probably going
25:15
to be with Honda for a while and he could be the new Stefan
25:18
Bradley, right. And start being a test writer
25:20
who knows down the road. So you know, so that's my two
25:24
cents. On, on, on, on on that.
25:26
But now you know. What do you think about Marquez
25:30
going, huh? And so I wish we can know a
25:34
little bit more on the insiders like of of like those type of
25:37
decisions. Yeah, don't worry, I'm sure
25:40
it'll come. What do you think about, you
25:42
know Marquez going to Ducati? Did you see it come in?
25:45
Did you are you, are you you don't own a Honda?
25:48
Is your boy putting his Honda up for sale?
25:53
You know, it's funny, he did set a group taxis.
25:56
I last saw it was time to get a Ducati, so I don't know yet.
26:03
He put a lot of money into that, that replica he has.
26:05
But we'll we'll see. I'm sure wherever Marquez goes,
26:10
he's going to try to replicate, which is not a bad idea, you
26:13
know, He's a great writer. But I'm excited to see what
26:17
what, what, what can happen with this.
26:20
No, it's crazy though. We've seen it coming but like,
26:23
it wasn't for sure cuz it's been so long with Honda.
26:27
So you know, Yeah, I mean I think that.
26:30
Listen, here's the thing. And I think they replicated him
26:35
so much that that's why they're in trouble, like you mentioned
26:37
with Yamaha. So I think Marquez masked the
26:44
issues with Honda because he was such a good he's such a good
26:47
writer and and so he was able to ride around the problems of the
26:50
bike up until he couldn't. And I and I and I think he
26:55
noticed that when he got injured and his body wasn't 100.
26:58
I think he realized what the bike could or could not do.
27:02
But I you know, if if he has two seasons or one season like
27:09
Rossi, would Honda take him back?
27:16
When he go back I think he would well so I don't know if he would
27:23
and and this is the thing and I. Don't think he would.
27:25
And and I mentioned this because you know, he's been 11 years
27:30
with Honda and he has a brand like they can put out a Mark
27:35
Marquez Repsol bike every four or five years for beyond his
27:41
death, right? If he stayed, he would be a God.
27:45
You he would be like Bayless. He would be like Foggy, Foggy.
27:51
I'm messing up his name, but you know who I'm talking about.
27:55
You know what I'm saying? He he would be like so many
27:57
writers. He would be like Rossi and
28:00
Yamaha and I think like Rossi was able to go back to Yamaha
28:03
from Ducati and and and build that brand, right.
28:06
So he's you see Rossi now he's going to have on VR46 hat or
28:10
Yamaha hat right and and and that Yamaha brand he's going to
28:14
push forever because that's what it is.
28:16
So I don't I hope that doesn't get tainted down 1015 years from
28:20
now. I hope that there is you know
28:23
there's a Rep so Han Mark Marquez bike that comes because
28:27
that's the beautiful thing and he in you know yeah he it could
28:31
happen for him with Ducatia as well if he goes to Ducatia
28:34
dominate. I don't think that's going to
28:38
happen, though. Going to Ducati and dominating,
28:41
I don't think that's gonna happen.
28:44
I mean, I think, yeah, I think you're right about that.
28:49
But I always think my Marquez will be a contender until he
28:53
retires. So he he will he would he would
28:57
be top five at least even when he switched to Kati.
29:00
I don't know because you see his brother struggle and I'm not
29:03
picking on his brother cuz his brother cuz his brother, but his
29:06
brother. Left because of his brother,
29:08
right? He struggled, right?
29:10
You you saw that. You saw that Martini struggled
29:13
on a 23 bike early on right? And and even last year a little
29:17
bit, right. You saw that Peco struggled
29:20
initially on the duck as well. It's not like Peco came out the
29:23
gate, you know, hitting on all cylinders.
29:25
He is. He struggled for a year and a
29:26
half to almost two years, right? You see what I'm saying?
29:31
Only Bezeki's the only person that came out the gate.
29:33
But he came out the gate on on Peco's old bike.
29:36
So you see what I'm. Saying so, Mark Marquez is the
29:39
God. He's gonna figure he's gonna
29:41
figure it out way faster than they probably could, cuz he's
29:45
gonna take that. He takes those risks before they
29:48
would. I don't think he is at this
29:49
point. Mark Marquez has a girlfriend
29:51
now. I don't think he's taking the
29:52
same risk. How many times did he fall this
29:55
year already? Oh.
29:57
Man. I mean, yeah, he say that, bro,
30:01
we all know. It's like saying, all right, I'm
30:03
gonna take it easy when I go out there, you know you're not gonna
30:06
take it easy. Yeah, I know.
30:07
He's gonna rock. You're gonna put it up?
30:10
Yeah. And and you know, off the
30:11
record, I'm sure his brother is talking to him.
30:14
I I know that. I'm sure off the record, his
30:17
brother's talking to. Him.
30:18
He's getting data, all right, Right.
30:20
He's hard. He's already put he's gonna get
30:22
on that bike and it's like he's been on it, but you know.
30:26
It's not gonna be PECO I'm sure but but that bike the Ducati is
30:30
is is great in the breaking zones right.
30:34
That's what that's what Martina had to figure out that's what
30:37
PECO had to figure out is the breaking zones and and and and
30:41
that's that's that's where that bike is is is is dead lethal
30:46
right and and so you know he's you know and and and he's going
30:51
from an inline to a V4 so you know we'll see if the bike is
30:57
optimal and and we shall see he's going to be running on a
31:00
2023 bike which is the bike that Pecos on and these guys are on
31:04
So he's going to really he's going to have a really solid
31:06
bike but Martin is deadly Pecos deadly Biszek.
31:13
Is deadly, his brother. His brother is deadly.
31:17
Right. He's just named all the Ducatis,
31:19
right? Morbidelli.
31:20
He got something to prove to, you know what I'm saying?
31:24
Who else is left? Who else is who?
31:29
My Marini and and and. Zacho was out there right now,
31:34
yeah, he's out. So Bastianini and and Marini are
31:37
the two guys that may be suspect and and Marini it is he's
31:43
consistent. So he's in the top five
31:45
generally, not generally, but he's in he he's he's he's solid
31:50
and so is Bastionini is the other guy because of his
31:53
injuries or injuries, you know what I mean?
31:55
But like I do believe that Marquez is has the ability to be
31:59
one of the top guys, but this competition there.
32:04
Oh yeah, there's there's definitely gonna be competition,
32:06
but. We all know the game, Mark.
32:08
Cars play. As soon as they get out there,
32:10
Cardi, he's gonna be like, alright, who am I latching on,
32:13
right. And they're gonna be like you're
32:15
already starting this like you know.
32:17
But the the another thing is they also get a lot of testing
32:20
that we don't see and they don't really talk about.
32:24
They do a a winter testing couple of the private tests they
32:27
probably do here and there, right?
32:28
Yeah, I know. So I'm sure he'll get used to a
32:30
Ducati. He'll probably buy one.
32:33
He He can't jump on a Ducati until the end of the season if
32:38
he is. If he is, he ain't telling him.
32:40
If he's jumping on his brother's bike, he ain't telling nobody.
32:44
But he took it for us but he he's not getting on a bike so
32:48
that'll be interesting to see what happens.
32:50
I'm I'm like I said on one hand I I know what it's like cuz I
32:53
think I, I I in my in my heart of heart I believe he wants to
32:57
get more than Rossi right. And that's I think he thought.
33:03
I think after he won the last one, he believed he was gonna
33:06
get two or three more by now and that didn't happen and I believe
33:11
he's mad because it's not him, it's the bike.
33:15
Well, you know that feeling when you can still get on a podium
33:18
even once you've gone through your ups and downs?
33:22
Like you still have that confidence.
33:23
So he he knows he still has that ability.
33:26
So it's just a good feeling. I can see if he still hasn't got
33:30
on the podium or not really getting any points and still
33:33
trying to chase Rossi, that's different.
33:35
But like he has that edge on him still, like he still got it.
33:40
So that Ducati, I think he's studying.
33:42
He's gonna give him a push. He's we might shock us.
33:45
Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure I'm Motor GP.
33:46
He's right. Or duck.
33:49
Oh yeah, he's figured. He's figuring out everything.
33:52
Like think about it. We only saw videos of Mark
33:56
Marquez. I don't know if a whole world
33:57
side is, but he was blindfolded and and felt out track.
34:02
Yes, like and he he was the the Revs.
34:05
He can hum the Revs, He can listen to track and know where
34:08
he's at. Like, I haven't seen anyone do
34:10
this. So like, I'm telling you, he's a
34:12
different level type of writer. No, no, no.
34:14
I mean, Peco is probably the same, but he's a little
34:16
discreet. But like, we've seen examples of
34:19
Mark. Mark, Yeah, it's scary.
34:22
You know, next year is gonna be, if everybody stays healthy, it's
34:28
probably gonna be the biggest of everything, you know,
34:31
viewership, attendance, everything.
34:34
Because yeah, the next year is gonna be ridiculous.
34:38
And you know, before we run out of time, you know, we haven't
34:40
even touched on our Pedro now going to Moto GP as well.
34:45
I mean, yeah man, Congrats to him.
34:48
I really wanted him to stay. But you know, if he's all done
34:52
with, you know, riding that same bike and wants to improve, like
34:55
somebody gotta make room for him.
34:56
But sad to see Paul get pushed out.
35:00
But you know. I hope they find another spot
35:04
for him somewhere. Well they're still paying him
35:07
but it and I don't know if it's true.
35:08
I think they try to do that to Miller 1st.
35:11
And Miller I assume, and I said this already, like Miller would
35:14
say no cuz like look bro, without me you wouldn't be top
35:16
five. Exactly like you can't.
35:18
Like you wouldn't be with SO and you know.
35:21
There was some sketchy thing going on with KTM like you never
35:24
know. I think KTM, you know here's one
35:28
of the things where I I think ATM should have just and and we
35:32
saw this with Raul as well, they did this with Raul first.
35:34
Raul Fernandez, they do it with him first.
35:37
I think here's the situation when they got these guys on the
35:39
contract and and they have that they show up and they they
35:43
supersede what expectations and you know you want to you want to
35:48
get them up and that's not fair because pole is a very good
35:51
writer and honestly you don't know what you're going to get
35:54
when you when a rider goes up to Moto GP for Moto 2.
35:56
Because you see you see people who who who who are not in the
36:00
top five go to Moto GP and do really well and you see people
36:03
in the top five go to Moto GP and don't do well.
36:06
You know look at Zako Zako is 2 times world title, right, Moto
36:10
2, right. And I have to say he didn't do
36:11
well because he's he's been on the podium but he hasn't won.
36:15
So you know, I I I don't appreciate what Kate TM did with
36:19
that. They should have just kept him
36:21
in motor two or allow him to go somewhere else.
36:24
I mean, just look at it this way, like Juan Mir had a average
36:30
season and became a champion and then he hasn't been, you know,
36:35
had a terrible year this year. Last year he wasn't even close
36:39
to winning last year. Fabio, I mean, two years ago
36:43
Fabio won it and and you know. And last year he did it and this
36:49
year he's having a horrible year.
36:50
So like, what makes you think that he's going to come up to
36:53
Moto GP and just going to, I don't know, where do you spend
36:57
on each plan on fit? And then it's just first year,
36:59
can't just be a test year, can't do that.
37:02
You know what I'm saying? Like, especially with KTM,
37:05
that's when they get ready. So I don't know.
37:07
Like I said, I think he should stick to that one money yet.
37:09
But yeah, no, I I completely agree.
37:11
I I do hope he's successful because.
37:14
He I'm rude for him for sure because, and he will be, but
37:17
he's it's gonna take him at least a year.
37:21
I want to prove me wrong, but yeah, it's definitely gonna take
37:24
him at least a year just watching everyone else.
37:26
Most writers that take at least a year.
37:28
I mean, look at Jack Miller and Brad Bender.
37:30
They're doing really well this year, but like.
37:33
They're still trying to figure it out.
37:35
We can see it, yeah. No.
37:36
And it's taking them some time. Like it started off really well,
37:39
but it's still taking them some time and and and you know and
37:42
some people may think you look at some of these other writers,
37:45
look, Rossi's VR46 Academy is probably the anomaly, right?
37:53
Because they're getting that information trickled down most
37:57
of these other writers. You know not to say they don't
38:00
have good people in their camp, great people in their camp but
38:02
they don't have Valentina Rossi in their camp and and I think
38:05
that helped Bez to help PECO to help all these riders But these
38:09
other folks now you know what I'm saying that it you need at
38:13
least one or two some of these riders need 3 to 4.
38:16
You look at Jake Dixon and and still in motor 25 years right.
38:21
Five years and and so you know what I'm saying that type of
38:24
thing is, is, is, is, is that's the length.
38:29
You look at Joe Robertson in Moto 2 as well.
38:31
You know that take time. You look at some of these other
38:33
ride, you look as you said Sam. Lowe's yeah.
38:36
Sam Lowe's went to Moto GP and went back to Moto right.
38:39
You know you you look at aloe Vera you look at all these
38:41
riders so there's no guarantee that Pedro is going to be the
38:45
lottery ticket you know what I'm saying and and polo spa grow he
38:50
he's a very good rider and and and you know and and you know
38:55
he's still getting his money but these guys are not doing it for
38:57
money they want to be. Out there.
38:59
I'm just most, I'm just most upset that Pedro Kostas like I'm
39:03
not motive to anymore. I want to go to motor GP19 years
39:06
old and. They just answered like, OK,
39:10
well The thing is, The thing is there's other teams that wanted
39:12
them. So that's the thing.
39:14
And and KTM had no choice to put them up there.
39:16
But I think KTM should have just let him go.
39:18
Just say, hey, listen, we would love to keep you, but we can't
39:21
keep you. Good luck.
39:23
Go ahead. Yeah, I mean.
39:25
It was go ahead. No, I was gonna say yeah, they
39:29
must really think he's the next Mark Marquez for their
39:32
franchise. But sure, there's another talent
39:35
out there. If he's acting this way at this
39:37
point, it was just they should know.
39:40
How they've treated other riders like, all right, we really
39:43
respect you. We want you to succeed.
39:45
Like I think we should just get one more year so we can fit you
39:48
right, Right. There's a lot of talent out here
39:51
right now. We got Petco.
39:52
You got so much fight going on. Like you just gotta get one more
39:55
year before we have you enter. Cuz we want you to dominate, no
39:59
doubt. But so we shall see.
40:02
Man, next year is gonna be crazy.
40:04
They got the calendar out. They got the calendar out
40:06
already. Some of it.
40:07
Oh, there's so many calendars out right now.
40:10
I love it. I know, man.
40:11
That's. Fine.
40:12
Our race to club calendars out, Bsds out.
40:14
Is all the calendars out just like?
40:18
You see that? No doubt.
40:20
Well, man, I I wanna, I wanna thank you and appreciate you for
40:23
coming on. We're gonna keep this thing
40:24
going. My name.
40:26
Is where you go before we before we go.
40:29
I know we asked me in my situation, where are you going
40:32
this weekend? This weekend I'm going nowhere.
40:35
But in a few weeks, I'm going to Daytona.
40:38
That's what I mean. All right, there we go.
40:40
You know, next, next, next. Next.
40:43
Next Thursday. Wednesday, I'll be on my way.
40:45
Next Thursday, I'll be at Daytona.
40:47
That's cool. Our racing season is about done.
40:49
I might go to Homestead, but don't mind.
40:52
Just do it, man. Just do it.
40:54
I. Know just do it, trying, trying
40:56
to figure it out, but we'll see. But yeah, you don't get back on
40:59
before Daytona, you know, We got to get that.
41:01
Good luck. Listen, I had a dream last
41:03
night. I was at a racetrack.
41:04
I couldn't tell you which one because I didn't.
41:06
It wasn't familiar. But I was at a racetrack.
41:08
I'm like, hey, if I'm dreaming about racetrack, it's not too
41:10
bad. There you go.
41:13
Almost time. All right, man.
41:15
Peace.