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They Detonated a Nuclear Weapon in the Sky… Was It Aimed at Something Else? · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Ken Schwartz, Welcome back to the show. How's it going,
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  Speaker 1: my friend?
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  Speaker 2: What's to do?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: Glad beyond? Well, a lot of things are new and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's changing every day.
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  Speaker 1: Things are getting wild out there. I think we're getting
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  Speaker 1: ready to hit some kind of what does Jay call it?
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  Speaker 1: The fourth turning? Yes, So talk to us about this
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  Speaker 1: Genie missile launch that happened on July nineteenth of nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty seven in Nevada.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that was the end result of a program and
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  Speaker 2: it was the Genie missile program. And for those of
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  Speaker 2: you who don't know about it, happened to I think
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  Speaker 2: the test was in July nineteenth, nineteen fifty seven, and
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  Speaker 2: it was a air to air missile with a nuclear workhead.
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  Speaker 2: About three kilotons was its design. And so that was
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  Speaker 2: the test. But it was getting there, was the the story.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So how did that happen? I had done a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of research and it ties back to Eisenhower.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it comes well, since the end of the Korean
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  Speaker 2: War was pretty much coming to an end, and my
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  Speaker 2: dad had been there as he was he flew B
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  Speaker 2: twenty six is in the Korean War. He flew with
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  Speaker 2: the Rock Royal Republic of Korea Air Force, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and traineers and stuff for them, and so this I
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  Speaker 2: think had happened in to be nineteen fifty six, which
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  Speaker 2: was a whole long time ago, and he was sort
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  Speaker 2: of a missile an expert on some of the Air
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  Speaker 2: Force's missiles or what early parts were. And so they've
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  Speaker 2: been having a real problem with this program. It kept
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  Speaker 2: getting sabotaged again and again, and of course they just
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  Speaker 2: figured it was the commis right, it's nineteen fifty six,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the Cold War is just at its peak,
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  Speaker 2: and so he was he was assigned to basically to
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  Speaker 2: successfully complete the Genie missile project because the other had
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  Speaker 2: been sabotaged so well, he was figured it was the Commist.
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  Speaker 2: So what he did is he he he said a
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  Speaker 2: hit a plan. You know, he had a show missile,
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  Speaker 2: and then he had a secret missile, and the first
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  Speaker 2: one because it'd been sabotaged so much, so he got
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  Speaker 2: a big open room like in the in the facility
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  Speaker 2: where on the walkways you could look into the bigger
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  Speaker 2: room and you could see them working on the missile.
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  Speaker 2: So everybody walking down the hallways would see the missile there.
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  Speaker 2: And it was it was you know, that kind of
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  Speaker 2: kept it. But there was another missile being built, the
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  Speaker 2: second one, and that was in a back room that
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  Speaker 2: my dad only had the keys on. Nobody knew about
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  Speaker 2: it except of course him and the engineers. And so
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  Speaker 2: so whenever they fixed the stuff on the first missile
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  Speaker 2: in the in the kind of the viewing bay, they
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  Speaker 2: would later sneak back to the other room and do
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  Speaker 2: the same thing because he'd know had been they had
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  Speaker 2: been sabotaged right before they were going to do testing
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. So anyway, so it took a while, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it took several months to build the missile, get it
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  Speaker 2: up to the get it up there. So they were
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  Speaker 2: ready to go for for test firing the next day.
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  Speaker 2: And my dad knew that that would be the time
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  Speaker 2: that the saboteurs would hit. So and and of course
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  Speaker 2: the the public missile was the bait, right because it's
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  Speaker 2: not just a it's not just to you know, get
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  Speaker 2: the missile completed. It's also to catch the saboteurs. And
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  Speaker 2: so they put it in a big open space where
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be you know, going to be moved
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  Speaker 2: out tomorrow, and they started wrapping it in tape and
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  Speaker 2: barrier signs and everything, so they made it physically impossible
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  Speaker 2: for someone to get from you know, those barrier signs
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  Speaker 2: and tape to the actual missile itself and uh. And
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  Speaker 2: then it was up on a few pallets of wood
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  Speaker 2: right in the kind of the center of this big
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  Speaker 2: room with the tape around it, and uh. And then
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  Speaker 2: of course they kind of got the guards backed off
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  Speaker 2: and they weren't there, and of course they had those
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  Speaker 2: on the second door where nobody could get in to
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  Speaker 2: get to the to the other missile. And yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: so what happened, I'll tell the story how it got
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  Speaker 2: sabotaged in the middle of the night. Some guy in warehouse,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get some more of that. It decided he needed
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  Speaker 2: to get the pallettes underneath the missile. At least, this
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  Speaker 2: is what the story was. And so he went up
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  Speaker 2: from when there was other paletts in the warehouse down below, right,
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  Speaker 2: he didn't need to get them. So he went up
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  Speaker 2: to there where it was in the open, and he
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  Speaker 2: like tore down like all the tape and removed the
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  Speaker 2: barrier signs and all the barriers. There was a lot
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  Speaker 2: of them, right. They made it real difficult to get there,
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  Speaker 2: and then of course he went in to get the
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  Speaker 2: pallets and lifting the missile off, it fell over on
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  Speaker 2: its side and broke itself right, and and of course,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the morning had come in. The missile's been damaged.
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  Speaker 2: The general runs, sa, oh my god, my career is over.
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  Speaker 2: This is over. And my dad said, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: that was just the demo display missile. This is the
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  Speaker 2: actual missile. So he took him. He took them back
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  Speaker 2: to the back room opening up and there's where the
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  Speaker 2: missile was hiding. And of course all safe and sound.
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  Speaker 2: The guy said, oh, my career saved. H all that.
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  Speaker 2: But up of course they took the warehouse guy and
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  Speaker 2: away because my dad's just at a certain rank, and
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  Speaker 2: he went he was, let's say, taken away to enhanced interrogation.
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  Speaker 2: And that was a you know, it didn't have the
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  Speaker 2: nuke at the warhead on it. That came later, right
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  Speaker 2: before putting it under the plane. And so he went away,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, they they did lots of enhanced enhanced
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  Speaker 2: interrogations on him, right, just you know, you can imagine, right,
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  Speaker 2: And but the thing was, they no matter what they researched,
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  Speaker 2: they couldn't find any reason they couldn't make a connection
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  Speaker 2: with the commies. They researched the background, they just couldn't
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  Speaker 2: make any connection. It was like somebody took over his
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  Speaker 2: brain and made him go do this insane thing. Of
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  Speaker 2: course he was you know, probably spent some time behind
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  Speaker 2: bars and everything, but but that was the weirdest think
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  Speaker 2: after they briefed my dad, you know, a month or
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  Speaker 2: so afterwards on what went down, because it was successful,
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  Speaker 2: and I think in the show notes you probably have
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  Speaker 2: a link where they can actually uh do that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: because what they had this student it's an air to
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  Speaker 2: air missile. It's uh, you fire it and and it
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  Speaker 2: go about six miles or something and it's set off
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  Speaker 2: like a three kiloton nuke till one kill depending on
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  Speaker 2: what they wanted it. And originally they said the whole
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  Speaker 2: thing was they're going to make the genie to shoot
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  Speaker 2: down Russian bomber bomber fleets, right that are coming to
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  Speaker 2: attack America. But they ended up making three thousand of them,
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  Speaker 2: and the Russians didn't even of one hundred bombers, right,
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  Speaker 2: So that's what the excuse. And also that Soviets aren't stupid, right,
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  Speaker 2: They're not going to be flying their bombers, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in in the formation obviously, because they'll know about the
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  Speaker 2: Genie missile. Of course they did, you know, and so
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  Speaker 2: and so that whole that whole explanation is basically just
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  Speaker 2: bs what they were really built for. They were really
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  Speaker 2: built for to shoot down flying saucers, because if you
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  Speaker 2: fire this thing off, it's got like a thousand foot
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  Speaker 2: kill radius. I mean, just the radiation will kill you,
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  Speaker 2: let alone the blast of a three kilos on nuke, right,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of like with hand grenades and
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  Speaker 2: horseshoes and nuclear bombs, you just kind of get close
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  Speaker 2: to to do the thing. So it's actually designed for
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  Speaker 2: to shoot down flying saucers, is what the actual purpose
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  Speaker 2: of that thing was. And that was and they successfully
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  Speaker 2: defeated the sabotage attempts that and so the missile was
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  Speaker 2: launched and of course they made it became a success,
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  Speaker 2: and but you know that that was a mystery, and
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  Speaker 2: it was years later, you know, my dad had told
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  Speaker 2: me the story. And there's a lot of things that
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  Speaker 2: people don't talk about or you know, it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: out there in a mystery and the various let's say
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  Speaker 2: extraterrestrial forces on our planet. And I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: your listeners have ever heard about it Amesesia. I'm butchering Italian.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry about that. Italian speakers out that it's friendship in
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  Speaker 2: Italian it says fifty years of Amesesia, and it was.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of the classic Are you familiar with this,
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  Speaker 2: with this kind of sighting that happened in the fifties
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  Speaker 2: in Italy?
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  Speaker 1: No, I am not, but that was getting ready to
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  Speaker 1: be My question was was your dad did you done
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  Speaker 1: tell you about this whenever you were young?
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  Speaker 2: No? No, this was this was figured out later because
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  Speaker 2: this is years later when I was doing research. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the modus operende of the people that sabotaged a sabotage
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  Speaker 2: the Genie missile. It was, it was there kind of
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  Speaker 2: what these guys did. So it's probably these guys, and
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  Speaker 2: of course they do have flying saucers and shooting, getting
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  Speaker 2: shooting and having a missile that can take out of
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  Speaker 2: flying saucer is not a good idea. And I'll kind
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  Speaker 2: of give you a little breakdown of the case. Probably
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  Speaker 2: maybe if you haven't heard it, maybe some of your
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  Speaker 2: listeners will happened in like the mid nineteen fifty six
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  Speaker 2: of it. The same time, you know, my dad was
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  Speaker 2: doing his thing, having that whole Genie missile project go
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  Speaker 2: there and and there's two books. This is the one
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  Speaker 2: you probably want to read. First fifty years of Friendship
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  Speaker 2: or am Assia. Sorry about the butchery there and the
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  Speaker 2: little bit looking back fifty years. You know, they realized
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  Speaker 2: that they were being you know, manipulated and kind of used,
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  Speaker 2: and this was a serious operation. You know people talk about,
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  Speaker 2: oh they touch you feel it. They actually spent over
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  Speaker 2: the extraterrestrials provided Basically it was this stuff. The book's
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  Speaker 2: written by Stefano Retcha and he's the author of the book,
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  Speaker 2: and he knew he was in contact. The main protagonist
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  Speaker 2: or contact guy is a Bruno sam Ciccia, and he's
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  Speaker 2: the main contact. Those are probably butchered Italian names. And
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  Speaker 2: so this guy, Stefano, he just basically wrote like a
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  Speaker 2: book of what really went down. He was sort of
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  Speaker 2: like the recorder of it all. And so the first
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  Speaker 2: book he made was a mass Contacts that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: that was written right after the events, and it's sort
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  Speaker 2: of like a just just a countdown on what went
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  Speaker 2: down and the fifty years is afterwards they kind of realized,
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  Speaker 2: you know, they were having him do lots of different
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  Speaker 2: weird things, and some of them like the world depends
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  Speaker 2: on you doing this and getting a So there was
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  Speaker 2: like dozens of people involved, right, this is not just
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  Speaker 2: a small contact. And they had these human looking aliens.
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  Speaker 2: They look like humans, except they were extremely tall. I
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  Speaker 2: call them, and maybe j calls them the little heads.
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  Speaker 2: And what it is is there they are humans in
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  Speaker 2: a sense. But there's a technology, a life extension technology.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of the alien species use it, and it
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  Speaker 2: basically when when it's applied to humans, it will it
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  Speaker 2: stops your aging, actually reverses it, but it takes you
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  Speaker 2: back to a time when you're side effect is it
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  Speaker 2: makes the bone plates on your bones become young again,
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  Speaker 2: so they start growing. So every year you're live, you
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  Speaker 2: get a little You've heard like guys like Saint Germain, right,
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  Speaker 2: he's living for centuries and every time people see it
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  Speaker 2: he's a little bit taller. So I'm not saying Saint
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  Speaker 2: Germain work for these this. They call them the w
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  Speaker 2: fifty six or Victory fifty six because they met him
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  Speaker 2: in fifty six. That's the group and there's a there's
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  Speaker 2: another of contras that CRTs they call them, that were
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  Speaker 2: like their competit. And then there's a few other groups
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  Speaker 2: that kind of mix together. And these different alien groups
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  Speaker 2: were like mafia's battling for control on different plant spaces
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  Speaker 2: in the planet Earth. And you really have to read
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  Speaker 2: the book to do it. But they had like they
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  Speaker 2: had like people Italian, English, German, Russian people. They had
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  Speaker 2: all these people just involved in this big in this
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  Speaker 2: big contact case. It was mostly in Italy and like
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  Speaker 2: to for instance, the boss they gave themselves names. It's
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  Speaker 2: a dim patio and the top dude was like twelve
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  Speaker 2: feet tall, right, he was like the main boss. And
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  Speaker 2: then there's a couple of ten and a half flitters.
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  Speaker 2: There's a Kinyo and he was eight and a half
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  Speaker 2: footare tall. He was kind of like their direct boss.
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  Speaker 2: Like this doesn't come out of a out of things.
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  Speaker 2: If I don't know, Probably many of your listeners have
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  Speaker 2: heard of Catherine Austin Fitz. Yes, yeah, and she recounts
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  Speaker 2: a story and some of your listeners listen to it.
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  Speaker 2: She was she had a I guess it was a
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  Speaker 2: story from a staff member of the IMF they had
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  Speaker 2: one of the IMF meeting in Europe and this staff
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  Speaker 2: member there was a problem somewhere and this staff member
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  Speaker 2: had to go take care because they're remember the IMF, right,
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  Speaker 2: they got their staff and so they they accidentally led
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  Speaker 2: her into the wrong room and in the very front
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  Speaker 2: of the room, it's a big auditorium. In the front
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  Speaker 2: of the room, there's just like the very top guy
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  Speaker 2: the heads of the countries, their main rep and on
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  Speaker 2: the stage in front of them, the das. In front
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  Speaker 2: of them, there was this eight and a half foot
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  Speaker 2: tall person. And these guys and what it is if
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  Speaker 2: you look at like the time that they grow. So
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  Speaker 2: the eight and a half footer might be four centuries old,
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  Speaker 2: the twelve footer might be, you know, a thousand years old.
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  Speaker 2: And they have they have pictures of these people. They
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  Speaker 2: built them a villa with eleven foot doors in it. Right,
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  Speaker 2: So this with that four hundred and fifty pounds of platinum,
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  Speaker 2: and like here here they actually have a picture of
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  Speaker 2: one of the guys, one of the giants, and they
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  Speaker 2: and they back engineered his size. That's the Keno guy
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  Speaker 2: is eight and a half feet tall. So this is
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  Speaker 2: some serious stuff. And then what happens is basically in
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  Speaker 2: the first book. The first book really if you should
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  Speaker 2: read the the fifty Years Retrospective, and you kind of
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  Speaker 2: they realized they were used and kind of being used
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  Speaker 2: to training themselves, to manipulate humans, to get them to
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  Speaker 2: do what they want, and a lot of other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So that's you read the second one, you should get
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  Speaker 2: mass contexts because the first third of it is about
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  Speaker 2: these umites and it's really a disinformation campaign by this
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  Speaker 2: group of extraterrestrials where they're humans but they work for
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  Speaker 2: somebody else. Right, they say that they have off world
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  Speaker 2: community of like six hundred kind of like off world
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  Speaker 2: human type people. But the toolkit, like we have jets, right,
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  Speaker 2: fighter jets and aircraft carriers and all that kind of stuff,
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  Speaker 2: and we have that because we have hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 2: of people, right, You need hundreds of millions of people
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  Speaker 2: to really support a technology. And so the toolkit that
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  Speaker 2: these guys were using is a toolkit that would have
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  Speaker 2: to have, you know, billions of people behind it to
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  Speaker 2: support it because it's so sophisticated. A few hundred thousand
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  Speaker 2: humans could not support, no matter how old they were,
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  Speaker 2: could support this level of technology that they have, so
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  Speaker 2: they are obviously using somebody else's technology and and and
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you have people, if you're doing operations
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  Speaker 2: on Earth, what has and there's what is what would be?
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  Speaker 2: And then the second half is basically the two thirds
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  Speaker 2: of the second half is basically their stories kind of
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  Speaker 2: the beginning and towards what happened, towards the end, afterwards,
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  Speaker 2: right afterwards. And I would really recommend people to do
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  Speaker 2: it because these are the guys. These the guys that
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  Speaker 2: are running the IMF. That means, these are the guys
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  Speaker 2: behind the Great Replacement. And one of the things Bruno
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  Speaker 2: is kind of surprised at because you know, they were
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  Speaker 2: given these these all of these one ounce platinum blanks, right,
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  Speaker 2: just one ounce, and he thought, where am I going
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  Speaker 2: to spend these? Right? And he went to just like
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  Speaker 2: a local coin dealer. When the guy saw he immediately
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  Speaker 2: bought them up and gave him his money. And if
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: if you trace it back, it's the whole platinum market
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  Speaker 2: is read by the British Crown, so and then the
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  Speaker 2: House of Roches. But the thing is, and there's there's
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  Speaker 2: some other reports that people are out there. For instance,
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  Speaker 2: there's a guy in Harvard. This is just a secondhand story,
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  Speaker 2: and probably some people can find this report. I have
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  Speaker 2: that's buried way in my computer, but I remember reading
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  Speaker 2: it years ago. He's at Harvard, you know, he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have as much money, so he's running like scams on
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  Speaker 2: the side to make him a little bit of extra bucks.
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  Speaker 2: And eventually these two guys and you know, suits black
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  Speaker 2: suits and stuff acts come to him, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: he thinks he's being busted by the FBI. This is
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  Speaker 2: you know, like forty years old. So and he says, no,
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  Speaker 2: the guys, it wasn't the FBI. In fact, the guys
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  Speaker 2: were kind of kind of impressed with his his skills
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  Speaker 2: at running these scams, and they wanted him to like
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  Speaker 2: join their organization. And so there's a bit of negotiating
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: back and forth, and eventually he said, yes, he'll join,
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: and and they so they brought him in and they
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  Speaker 2: had a meeting, you know, and he signed papers or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and then out of the clock walks this eight and
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  Speaker 2: a half foot tall human, said, the largest human he'd
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  Speaker 2: ever seen, you know. And so this group of these
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  Speaker 2: group of humans are running it. So like if I
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  Speaker 2: came to you and like that came to this guy,
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  Speaker 2: but he was a little too sociopathic, and I guess
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  Speaker 2: he screwed him a little bit, kept too much money
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  Speaker 2: on one of the deals, and so they kind of
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  Speaker 2: kicked him out of the organization. He never got up
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  Speaker 2: to the level where I guess they offered him. But
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  Speaker 2: that's if somebody came to you and said, hey, I
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  Speaker 2: have this technology, you're gonna you're gonna live, you know,
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  Speaker 2: for centuries, right, And there's side effects. And in the
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: mass Contact book they talk about there's one guy that
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: one of their guys that's been working there for twelve years, right,
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: he's he does an age at all, he gets a
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: little bit taller, and he's actually got a wife and
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: some kids, and they and I guess it's time for
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: him to move on. They have a thing. This is
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: what happened. And now it's not quite sure whether the
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: aliens claim that they could see into the future like
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: remote viewing, even though this book was written centuries and
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: they and they knew there was going to be an
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: airplane crash, so so they just arranged to have somebody
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: look just like him on that airplane. And one of
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: the things that Bruno and Stefano. Whenever they needed something,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: these taxi drivers would drive up, you know Italian, real
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Italian taxi drivers. But they were like zombies. They just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: followed orders and did whatever they were And sometimes they'd
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: see these taxi drivers later and they'd be like normal people.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: But they asked the they asked these extraterrestrials what they did.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: They said that they put stuff in their brain and
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: like it allowed them to make them into sort of
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: like you know, zombie like servants. Well, they'll just tell them,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: you know, with the voice, go here and pick this
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: person up. Then go they then they take them somewhere
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: and drop them off, and then they forget what they did.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: It's like and it's kind of the same way when
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: they had that they butted the that warehouse worker, right,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: they could probably see through his eyes and do others,
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: and they just they just took him over and used
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: him for what it is. But that was like in
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the fifties, right, we didn't know anything about you know,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: nano butts in the brain for controlling and you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: in various types of sychological hypnosis. I mean there was
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: I guess there was what's that stuff? Operation paper Clip
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: brought up a bunch of those what was that CIA program,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Monarch monarch program, I mean that was just the beginning.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So this is super this is super advanced stuff, and
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: so they just I mean it's just their operendi. And
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: so that that was a case of these guys doing it,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and they had different groups of it. It was kind of
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: like the closest you could describe it if you read
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: the books. There's different groups. It's kind of like what
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: it is was in the imagine an interstellar Cold War, right,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: and like the W fifty six group would be like,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: let's say what you can call them, the Americans the Soviets, right,
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: and then the contras on the other side, we're like
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: the you know, the Soviets, what was the Americans? Woman
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: of the Soviets. But there's also a few groups who did,
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: like the British are there too, right, So there's a
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: few other extraterrestrial groups in this in this level of conflict,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: and the Grays and the Aliens. Remember I don't know
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: if the fifteen fifties they had that big battle over
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Nuremberg in the sky and then the Future Forecasting Group
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: remote viewed it and they had like on one side
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: they had the mantoid grays, and they're battling these humans
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: who had like reptoid overlords, and so they're like battling
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it out. And so these humans are basically working for
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: what the people call the reptoids or the scaly ones.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: And obviously they can't walk around on the streets. But
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I've noticed they have spinned reports of like
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: twenty foot tall tall, you know, reptoid type readings. And
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: if any of your people are familiar with the Soviet Union,
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: there is a plethora of meanings of humanoid like people
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: in the Soviet Union. They're ten feet tall, but they
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: have unusually small heads for their body, because that's the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: other side effect, and we have actually the picture of
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Kenyan in the book is that as you grow right,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: your body grows, but your head doesn't grow nearly as
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: fast as your body. So by the time you're eight
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and a half feet tall, you have like an unusually
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: small head for your body, but by the time you
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: get ten feet tall, it's almost ridiculous smaller in size
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: than the rest of your body. It's just one of
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: those side effects that you get from this technology that
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: extends the human life span.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Man I would hate. I mean, I'm already tall, ken
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: what if I got that technology, I would be like
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: twenty foot would get to be like twenty foot tall.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, eventually, I guess at the patrio he was twelve.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: At some point they actually go to the moon or
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: they go somewhere else where gravity is lower, because if
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: you're twelve feet tall, you have extreme chance of breaking
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: your bones, just because as you double in size, you
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: actually quadruple on your mass or your weight, so the
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: pressure on your bones. I mean, that's why elephants have
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: gigantic bones, right, because there's that mass volume ratio thing
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: going on and exponential and so supposedly at some point,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: when they get too tall, they go to the moon.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But they're recruited, and so this gets one Italian guy, right,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: he doesn't show up. They get an Italian guy that
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: looks almost like him. The flame plane flies and crashes
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: in the mountains, and of course the body's identified as his,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: even though he's got a wife and kid. And then
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: allegedly he was he was moved off to South America
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: because there's a lot of Italians in South America, right,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: and what these people are, they'd be like the assistant
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: to the assistant vice president. Right, they never be in
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: positions of power, but they'd be assistant to, you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a secondary public figure. And like this brute, the Stefano,
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: he came he by just chance, he walked into this
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: uh this place is in southern Italy and and there
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: is one of the guys that he knows, one of
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: these W fifty six ers, the guys that are maybe
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: six and a half foot tall, and he's talking to
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: a prominent Italian politician. And that guy didn't know that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: Stefano knew that a Italian pot ambition because if you'd
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: read the their their bullshit story. Oh, they're like if
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the Umites won, they're oh, we're supposed to be space
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: brothers helping humanity develop, and we can't interfere with you
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: because the prime directive, right, all this bullshit. And then
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: he finds one of the dudes talking to a top
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Italian politician and how much of that's platinum? Now that's rumored.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I can't document this, but you know, moxyfusion, I think
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: we've talked about it before. One of the easiest moxy
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: fusion runs is you take you get zirconium halfium oxide.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: It's about four percent half halftium and zirconium, and they're
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: in the same family. They're in the titanium family for those.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And metal oxygen fusion you use fusee of metal with
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: an oxygen and a pressurized argon atmosphere. And we've had
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: a show on that. I've done a dozen shows. You
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: can go out and learn about it. But the yields
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: are you get when you take the half theium, even
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: though it's four percent fifty it's got a fifty percent
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: of the yield on the zirconium. The uranium zirconium turns
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: into platinum to polydium, and then the halftium turns into
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: platt It actually gets rhodium and a little bit of silver,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: and you get a little bit of gold and radium
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: and osmium. It's a whole. If you look up m
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: x Y moxyfusion or metal oxygen fusion research Gate, you
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: can read the paper. It was done by your Yoio
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and Krelio in two thousand and four. Right, I didn't
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: do it. It's it's it's a science paper. You can
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you can you can read my description of it and
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: then tank the league. Just it's m x Y or
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: metal oxygen fusion research Gate just read the paper. It's not,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: but it's rumored that some of the platinum, because when
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: you synthesize platinum through the MAXI process, it puts out
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: different isotope ratio. Then let's say you platinum, you dug
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: out a planet Earth. And by the way, just for people,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: if you dug platinum out of Mars, it would have
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a unique ratio of isotopes. Isotopes or when you have
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: a certain amount of protons, different sets of neutrons, and
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: then they'll have they have a distinct ratio. So the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: platinum from the Moon would be unique from the platinum
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: let's say from Mars, or we took platin from Mercury,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: everyone or you know wherever, it would have a different group.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And it's rumored that some of the platinum that you
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: buy off the off the London platinum market doesn't have
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the same isotope as planet Earth.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: Do you think that this had more to do with
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: platinum than I had to do with copper gold?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Platinum is an easy burn, right, Zirconium haffy. You can
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: get zirconium oxide, zirconium halfium oxide. There are zircons Zircons
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: are a little crystals that they're the second hardest thing
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: from diamonds, and they wash out away, wash out of
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: granite mountains, and they're they're way more durable than even silicon. Right,
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: So there's beaches that are like forty percent zircons in
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: various parts of the world, and you could just you
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: could buy you can buy zirconium for like a from China,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: zirconium aftium oxide powder for like fifty cents of kiligrid.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And it's a really easy burn, the one that that
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: guys were doing with tungsten. They're burning tungusen and oxygen
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: to make gold. But the problem was it made like
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: a lot of osmium, and osmium tetoxide is one of
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the most toxic things you don't want in your body.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: So you have to be careful which burn you do
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: and that you don't make some nasty metals that are
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: kind of toxic to you. But anyway, I'm just saying
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: that's an interesting and really, you know, these are the guys.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: These are the guys that are running the Great Replacement,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: These are the guys running the IMF, These are the
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: guys behind globalization, These are the guys that trying to
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: wipe us out and exterminate us. These are your enemies,
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: you know. And the thing was it looked like they
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: were all hooked into like the royal families of Europe.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: But the thing goes, right, the queen ran the platinum market,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: or the crown run the platinum market. But the Queen
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: died of old age, didn't she? And Lord Rothschild he
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: died of old age too, didn't he. But the human
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: operatives that join this organization, they don't die of old age. Now,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: sometimes they get killed because these different groups out of
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: each other for turf. But you know, it's kind of
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: like a mafia almost thing. But you know, it's like
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you got the Russians, you got
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the Chinese, you got the you got the French, you
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: got the British, you got the Americans. Right, they're all
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: trying their own little deal. So it's something like that, right,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: But they have the similar technology and they hire different
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: people to work for them because the contras they're like
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: a group of extraterrestrials. They're kind of tall and they're
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: kind of blonde looking. But I don't think they're like
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: the classic ones. They have weird looking eyes that are
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: kind of like their eyes are really big, so it
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: makes them look like a little cross eyed or together.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: And uh, and they have human operatives that work for them. Right,
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: So it's this whole it's this whole like interstellar cold
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: war thing. It's it's quite the good read. And but
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: just when you're reading mass contacts, remember the first part
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: of it is is their disinformation campaign, which you can
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: learn about how their intelligence operations operate. Because if you
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: look at the basic run, if you look at it,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you think, oh, these are our space brothers here to
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: help us develop the higher levels. But if you look
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: a little deeper, it looks like it's a total scam,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: and you go right into like scammers and so and
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: then you just dismissed this as like a bullshit scam.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: So and but that's an intelligence operation, right. The shadow thinkers, oh,
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: it's our space brothers. Slightly the deeper thinkers, oh, this
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: is just a scam. But in reality, behind it all,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: it's a it's an it's an intelligence operation which which
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: basically discounts their their operations on Earth. You've got to
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: cover your tracks, right, So you need to You've got
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: to have a disinformation campaign. That's standard practice. So it's
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: just one of those interesting things and we probably talk
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: more about that, but people would have to really study it.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: So fifty years of it Amesesia and an Italian fifty
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: years of Italian. It's an Italian case. And then the
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: other one that Stefano of Breccia wrote was mass Contacts,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: so you know it's got a little way to it.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and that these are the guys man. They
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: got pictures, they've got artifacts, they've got everything right. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of films on YouTube. You
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: just go to YouTube, type it in and they've got
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: there's a whole movie that they made, like an hour
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and a half movie or more on this whole contact
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: and some a lot of it's Italian, but they do
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: have an English translation.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Did your dad tell you that this is really forward
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: to take down UFOs?
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, no, they yeah, he well, he had
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: questions on what it was being used for, and it
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: was obviously it wasn't used for Russian bombers. They made
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: three thousand of them, right, the Russians didn't have one
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: hundred bombers, and they're certainly not going to fly them
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in packs. It was like, there's no yeah, the whole
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: cover story would just stank. And they made three thousand
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: when they were they were operational up to nineteen eighty five,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: from nineteen fifty six right fifty seven when they started,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: you know, production, so they kept them around. They sudden
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: they had a three kiloton warhead on them, and they
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: came up with later surface air to air missiles, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: a lot of those also had nuclear weapons on them,
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: but they were for air blasts and they were they
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: weren't like a tactical for attacking stuff on the ground.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: These were you had a six minute burn, so you
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: had to really turn your plane fast not to get
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: your ass blown up. And they have the film's pretty
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: amusing because they had to. I think they blew it
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: up and like you know, I don't know, a couple
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of miles high, twenty thousand feet or something. And then
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: they had these idiots. They got five people to go
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: stand on ground zero below in the blast wave and
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: showing that it's all safe and effective. My dad figured
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: he didn't want to do that, it wouldn't be a
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: safe so he flew wingmen on Captain Williams. I think
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: an Eric william Captain Williams actually launched the missile over
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Yucka Flats and my dad flew wing men. You could
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: see his plane on the side. You figure to be
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: safer there than on the ground with those idiots. So
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: but but yeah, that's the thing. And so then they
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: then he was done and the project was proven, and
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: then they took it to mass production and started. He
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: was at that point, he just he was no longer
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: he just they just take the project, kept getting sabotage,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: and they couldn't figure out how right. Every way they did,
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: they were always being thwarted. Well, my dad, my dad
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: pulled those aliens or those extratrestos that worked for aliens.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: So if my dad pulled it off, humans won alien zero,
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: that means we can pull it off. But these guys
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: aren't the brightest and smartest people, and they can be defeated,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and they can be discovered and exposed. And these you know,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: these are the guys, these little heads. They're the guys
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that run the little hats, you know. They're the guys
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: that run the rout Child's. They're the guys who run
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: those old families. They're the guys that around the aristocrats,
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's as sons. Some sue said, you know,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: know your enemy. If you know yourself and you don't
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: know your enemy, you will lose half your bottles. So
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: know yourself, know your enemy. It's these guys, and then
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you can have success because you know, really the basic
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: thing is we're under alien occupation. That's it. We're under
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: alien occupation through the IMF, through the globalism, through you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: the banking cartels. That's the when you put it all together, right,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: there's always like a missing puzzle on how the things
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: came to be the way they came to be. Well,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: it's the extraterrestral connection. That's the one they weren't getting
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: and and if it was just these guys, we'd be screwed.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: But there's other people. There's like the Contras, so there's
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: other groups fighting these guys for control of Earth. You know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: you've got the Contras, you got the Grays and the
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Manto White symbiosis, You've got these guys and they're little
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: scaly masters, and there's a few others, right, So it's
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: sort of like an it's like an off world Cold War,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: and different parts hold different parts of the planet and
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: they're always like kind of you know, mess with each other,
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: having their human agents mess with other people's human agents, right,
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: or other groups human agents. So it's like this underground,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: like one of the Ameria. There's a woman that he
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: that's a Stefano talks about. She was very beautiful. That
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: that happened back in nineteen fifty six, right, and in
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: his in the twenty Years recalls that it's like fifty
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: years later and he's in Heathrow, right, and there's that woman,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: that very same woman that he saw fifty years ago,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: and she hadn't aged a year, you know, just perfect skin,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: just perfect beauty. And there she was like and supposedly
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: going to get on the same flight, but when the
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: flight got off, he looked for her and she wasn't
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: on the flight, be were or something. So it was
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: kind of just messing with his mind. So these people
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: are out there and you can't really detect them from
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: a normal person, right, because there are normal people. There
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: are people that have been recruited and they get this technology,
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: so they're always going to look like in their thirties
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: and they just seem to seem to age and they
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: get a little bit tall, so you see some dude
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: and is like some dude that's like six and a
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: half feet seven feet tall, and he looks like he's
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: in his thirties, but he's got an old look about him.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: He's probably one of those guys they're walking our streets.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: These people, you know, they have layers of contact. When
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: you get seven feet high and you're not aging, it's
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: kind of hard. So you go underground and you work
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: in one of the underground bases until you and then
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and because what's interesting, the hierarchy of control of this
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: organization is entirely by height, and we don't do that
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: on Earth too. You go to any organization, people aren't
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: organized by height. But if height is directly associated with age,
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: we have plenty of organizations on planet Earth which are
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: organized by age. And so that's in that height and
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: age core correspond is you know that twelve and a
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: half foot guy, he's uh, you know, how old is
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: he a thousand years? We don't know. There's the eight
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: and a half foot or how old is he four
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: hundred and five hundred years? We don't know. And then
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: there's seven footers and six and a half footers, And
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: I think you grow like a quarter inch, maybe a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: half quarter inch every year, maybe to a quarter to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: a half an inch, depending, I'll tell you are. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: so you have to kind of figure like this like
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Saint Germaine, right, he was always showing up. Yeah, he
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: never seen the age. He always get a little bit
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: taller every time they saw him. So and was he
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: working for these guys or the other organization because they
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: all use the same tech. I don't know, but it's
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: but they don't give that tech to the Rothchilds, do they. No? Sorry,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: roth Child's, you don't get that life extending tech. No,
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Queen of England, King of England, No, Charles, you're dying
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: of cancer. Nope, you're not gonna get that life extending tech.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: If you had that life extending tech, you wouldn't be
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: dying to cancer, would you. You'd be looking thirty years
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: old and you know, looking forward to several hundred more
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: years of life. So it's it's a powerful buy. Right.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: If somebody came and give you that offer, you're going
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: to live for all this time. You're gonna have all
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: the money you need. You're just going to be the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: assistant to the assistant secretary of something, right, and you're
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: going to report back to us and plant you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: listening devices, or maybe bought a few people to make them,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you know, useful operatives, you know, mind controlled offeratives. They'll
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: you'll probably do it, you know, I don't know some
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: people what I think, and they all seem to go
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: after like sociopathic kind of psychopathic people that are already
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: a little bit you know.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: It almost sounds like the classic vampire story, you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like do our bidding and we'll turn you into a
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: vampire so you can live forever. And then they never
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: really get turned into a vampire.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: No, but they do live for a long time. They
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: get this. We're not we're not quite sure what the
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: treatment is that allows up to do it. But a
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: lot of like the tall Whites, they have the same thing.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: They just get taller and taller and taller until they die.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: So I think it's a very common technology that aliens develop,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: not just anyone. It's like you know, ABC technology. It's
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: probably a torsion technology because these other these W fifty
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: six ers, they have the capacity to change time. It's
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: called torsion. Professor Koseirabbit. People haven't heard of torsion technology.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: It's about the level of where electricity is now, but
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: it's time tech and one of the things like Stefano
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: or Brune would go down in their in their underground bases.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: They would be down there, they think for like five
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: or six hours, and they'd come back up and only
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: be a couple hours. So part of the reason that
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: they can create these bases, they make time go faster,
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: and so smaller areas look bigger on the inside. So
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: they can basically just open voids time voids in the
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Earth and then they stabilize them. Then they drop their
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: spacecraft in. Now it's in a vacuum, and then they
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: just with but with the manipulation, you can put a
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: tube up to the surface and then full of air.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: They've had a couple of times where they have to
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: close these things down and the air vented through the
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Adriatic Sea. And when you have a bunch of bubbles,
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: boats no longer can be buoyant. And so they found
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: they found like fishermen's boats at the bottom of the Adriatic.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: The guy is still holding the wheel right the boat
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: on damage sitting at the bottom of the ocean, and
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: that's when they and then there's a bunch of venting
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: of bubbles. There was you know, there's the Adriatic Sea.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: They basically hang out at the Adriatic Sea. That's where
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: this group's main base is in Europe at least. And
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: so you know you read the books. I mean, they're there,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: are the people around the imat. They are the people
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's that run the little heads. They're the people that
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: are you know, doing the great replacement on us. So
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: if you want to stay alive, I would recommend reading
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: those two.
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: Books so you believe that this is connected to like
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: this is the real control center for everything. I mean, oh.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they were, they were around, they're around. They
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: used to run everything. The mantoy Gray seemed to push
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: into their racket. But they're still here and their humans
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: are still running their their operations. So yeah, they're they've
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: been around for you look back in Mesopotaania times, right,
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: and you see on the cylinders you see like the
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Kings of old that ruled for like hundreds of years,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: and they're always depicted as really really large beings. And
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: of course the scholarly explanation for that is no, they
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: just make in those artwork, they make the more important
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: you are, the bigger you are, right, that's usually the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: excuse on why the kings tended to be really big
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: and the gods tend to be really big and the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: regular humans are really small. It's just because the matter
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: is size and importance. Well, what happens if that isn't
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: what happens if those ancient kings of Samaria are these
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: people humans that have been brought into the organization and
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: they were really they were literally the kings of ancient Sameria,
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: And that's why they were eight feet tall and ten
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: feet tall, because that's that's that's literally that's what they were.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: And so at maybe back points of history they our
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: society was around a little bit more straightforward by this manipulation.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: And there's just dozens and dozens of reports, especially in
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: the Soviet Union, of these human aliens with unusually small heads.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: And so I'm sure your researchers can go out there,
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: look it up on Google, have the AI help you,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and you'll just find a dozen lots of reports in
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the Soviet Union about these type of human aliens. They look,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: there's one where they landed in a schoolyard and these
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: guys got out and they're like ten feet tall. They're
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: humans but they have like really tiny heads, you know,
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: in proportion to their body. It's like a classic UFO
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: case from the Soviet Union. So so these guys have
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: been seen and like they had the case where there
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: are these large humans are walking under one of the lakes,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Lake Pacall, and they send Soviets send divers to get
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: them and they blast them out of the water. Unfortunately,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: two of the one of the decompression chambers wasn't working,
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: so they threw the ones that they could and won,
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: and the arrest of them all died, wiped out a
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: bunch of special forces Russian special forces guys when they
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: tried to get down to the floor to see these
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: really tall humanoid type beings walking on the bottom of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Lake Pacall. I think it was. So. Yeah, there are
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: just lots of reports of these people and it's just
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: an ugly I mean, it's it's just what it is,
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: and you probably should people should read the literature and
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: know who runs the globalist who's behind it all. It's
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: these guys, and there's other groups, right, but pretty much
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: for Europe and the Middle East, these guys were there
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: first and their operations are the ones that predominate now
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: and still predominant.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I really don't know how I feel about it, Ken,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: because with all the manipulation going on, the government involvement,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: the military, faking alien abduction stories, having kids dress up
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: as gray aliens and abducting people hitting them with a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: gun that's called a stun gun, the which is basically
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a memory suppressor, the waters just get heavily muddied. And
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I think that is pretty convenient that we can just
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: place this on some extraterrestrial force that way, that humans
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: just keep getting away with what they've been doing for decades.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Oh well, I just read the mass contact books. The
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: first third of it's they're disinformation. I think there's just it.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: That's what it is. Man. There's just these different groups
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: when they're battling for power, and the planet is the
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: prized and we're in the way. You know, they put
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: the Florida, the Georgia guidestones and all those other all
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the goals the globalist it's like population, centralize everything into
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: one locust and wipe out the population to a manageable
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: level that balances with Earth's resources, right, which they say
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: is like a half a billion people, and and well
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: there's more than half a billion people right now on
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: the planet, which means, you know, seven and a half
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: billion people got to go somewhere and we all know
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: about this, right, that was no accident, and it's exactly
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: what it was meant to do. It's doing exactly what
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: it was meant to do. And they're up with more.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: They'll come up with more things like that too. It's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: it's it's not a nice thing, but it is. That's
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: just the way it is. I mean, I'm not I
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: can't give you could read the data. All you can
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: do is read the source documents, right, make up your
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: own mind. That's all I'm asking. Read those source documents.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: You can go listen to Katherine Austin fits about that
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: story of you know, this eight and a half foot
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: guy telling me. And even there's even stranger things like
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I live in Arizona for a long time and have
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: you know, contacts with the say the Native Americans then
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: at least the Denay right, And there's a story of
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: these two. This is actually a document and people can
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: find it they want to. There's a couple they heard
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: there was meeting of the skin walkers, right. You know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: if you're on the reds, you kind of hear these things.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: And so these two not so smart twenties something twenty
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: year old's Navajo today's thought they'd go do that, and
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: they would. They drove their pickup truck. Then they snuck
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: around and they were going to put on a high
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: ridge above where all the skinwalkers were going to be meeting,
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: you know, this thing. And they got up. They finally
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: got up there and they looked over and there was
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: like all the skiff hundreds a couple hundred skinwalkers right
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: doing their things, and in the middle of instructing them,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: it was like this really dark figure was a human
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: figure and it was like eight and a half feet tall,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: but it was a human figure. It wasn't a sasquat
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: right because they had arms are longer, so it was
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: literally a human figure, the tallest human. And the guy
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: suddenly picked up and saw them, right, he could telepathic
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: They tell they were there, and he kind of and
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: they they booted out. It got bad for them. They
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: had to leave the Reds and move to Phoenix because
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: their lives were threatened by the skinwalkers stuff. But there's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: here's this eight and a half foot tall human guy
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: instructing the skin walkers into their dark arts, you know,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: the witch. There's the Blessing Way and the Witching Way,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: and so he's so, what the hell is this? You know,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. And you've probably seen reports of really tall people,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: like in Mexico and sometimes up in Canada they have
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: these reports of like these fifteen foot tall people. Right,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: we'll hear reports every now and then, and people discount it. Well,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: maybe you shouldn't discount it.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: Now, when it comes to the Genie rocket suppose of
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: being to take down UFOs, is there any documented.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Taken down a UFO with it? They could have, but
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: they made three thousand of them, and there certainly wasn't
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: three thousand Russian bombers, not even close, not even one
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: hundred and uh. And then they distribute them and they
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: made a bunch of nukes three and a half killed
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: three one and a half to three kilos on nukes
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: on the end of them. But you know you're looking
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: at you know, fifteen hundred to a thousand foot just
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: told the death ray, death ray. And later they were
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: replaced by more advanced models. So this when they decommission them,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: there was already a new more advanced models of surface
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: to surface missiles, because if you're dealing with you know,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: alien spacecraft, what do you got, right, this is the
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: nineteen fifties, what do you got if all you got
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: is a hammer? Well, all we had was nuts. So
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: let's put them on a surface air to air missile
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and you know, maybe we get lucky. And it was
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: close because you can all missile only went like six
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: miles before it detonated. That means you have to take
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: your jet and just turn it like a crazy mother
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: and dive and just hope you stay alive from the
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: blast way it comes off of that. So yeah, it's
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a serious thread. Yeah, and it puts out you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: those things will put out like a mass of neutrons,
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: kill everything for like, you know, a thousand feet right,
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: and sicken anything for a whole lot of a whole
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: lot longer. The neutron flex that comes off of those
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: things are just in nets.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that we have nuclear capabilities in space?
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Well, they you know, there was that story when they
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: tried to send they were going to send a nuke.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: It was like in the dark of the moon, right
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: when the moon's dark and we can't see it, but
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: it's there, and they were going to send a send
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a nuke and nuke the Moon with a big nuke,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: and the show America how powerful America was. And I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: think they even have pictures of this. But when though
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: they launched that rocket off, this like saucer or orb
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: type craft appeared and like went around and zapped the
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: zap the missile and from different directions, and then I
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: started tumbling and crash. And that's allegedly that's happened twice.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: They're not going to let whoever's out there isn't gonna
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: let us nuke the Moon. And they must know that
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: we were going to nuke the moon. They must be
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: monitoring us, because how could they be there to shoot
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: it down? Right, So they're just not going to I
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: think there's a certain levels, there's certain rules because you know,
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: they find those ancient. You've probably see the two point
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: nine year old nickel iron sphears in South Africa that
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: they mining. That's that ancient gold deposit. They looked at
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: the ice topic structure of those spheres. It's not from
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: the planet. Those whatever, those nickel they look nothing more
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: than like big giant ball bearings and maybe left over
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: from some mining machines. Two point nine billion years ago,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: because that area in South Africa, I mean it was
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: as big as the Amazon. There was a mountains bigger
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: than the Amazon, but there were no plants, right two
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: point nine billion year ago, there was nothing right, and
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: so the erosion was massive. And then the plane that
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: is the South African gold deposit at that time was
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: like as a big imagine the big Amazon basin, but
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: without any trees and just vast flooding waters. And so
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: there was like massive deposits of gold. And usually form
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: the Amazon we find the golden patches, right, but in
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the deposit of South America, which at that time was
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: flat now it's a basin because it dip, all we
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: find is flower gold. It's the most incredibly rich flower
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: gold fine. But we don't find nuggets, we don't find
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: stuff that we find in the Amazon. It's like something
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: went there and just mine that whole area, stripped of
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: all the gold. The only gold that was left was
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: maybe just a layer of powder eyes goal on a
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: flat surface, and then they just maybe they just left
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: the machines and all this left is the ball bearings.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: And then two hundred and eighty five million years ago
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: in Pennsylvanian coal. You can actually go to a museum
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: in England and see it. They were digging this coal
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: out and they found ceramic pipe, like a broken up
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: ceramic pipe, and there was coal inside the pipe. Right.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: I think forbidden archaeology has a lot of these stories
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: in it if people are looking for a book. And
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: so obviously we've had like advanced species have come and
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: visited the planet and left you know, trash basically that
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: we can find today. And that's just a few of
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: that's just a couple of many of these weird finds
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: in history, but they're usually just one offs. But you know,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: they're alien trash. So if you had a space bearing
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: civilization that's two hundred eighty five million years ago, they've
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: so advanced down that it's just because the biggest things
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: were six foot salamanders at the time, right. And so
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: I think that there seems to be a hierarchy of
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: of let's say, power and structure in the galaxy and
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: all the things deals the stuff we're dealing with. You know,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: these mass contact guys and the reptoids and all the mantoids,
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: they're pretty much at our level, right, And there's much
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: more advanced beings that come by. I can tell you
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: more stories about that. I used to know you. Ever remember
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: you remember hose As KaiA. Did you ever meet him?
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: No?
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I do not. Yeah, he was I'm not sure who.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe it wasn't Bruce Sports that gave it to him.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: But anyway, this guy had been filming the Moon for
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. He had a twenty two inch reflector, right,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: and he'd been doing it and he was MOSEI was
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: going to release a thing called Moon Rising. He eventually
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: did put out a film called Moon Rising, but it
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: was nothing like what I saw. And this guy had
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: been filming objects flying between the Earth and the Moon
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: and just had like dozens and dozens and these are
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: objects are huge, like sixty kilometers across, one hundred kilometers across,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: just one after another after another, like the weirdest one
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: they had. One he was filming the Moon and all
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: of a sudden, this glowing postage stamp appeared above the
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Moon kind of had texture like there was almost a
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: sea on its surface, but it was like something like
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty miles by eighty miles. It was.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: That's a Fibonacci series like rectangle that your credit cards are.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: It was there for like a second and a half
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: and you could see the texture of it, and it
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: was glowing brilliant like a golden light, and you could
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: see the shadow of the object on the Moon below,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: so you knew it was above the Moon the Earth
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: and was there for like a second and a half
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: and then it just pointed out in the spute. See
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: what is that. That's just a being so advanced. You know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: it just stopped by for a second and a half.
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: So I think earthsa on the tourist trail. So you
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: can't cycle a national park, so you can't. You know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: there's poachers and there's different levels, so there's different hierarchies there.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: We don't understand it, but you know we did get
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: banned from the Moon in nineteen in the Apollo seventeen
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: when you could listen in on Apollo through the uh
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: some of the short wave bands, you could actually hear
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: them talking back and forth with Apollo. Anybody could do.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: And when Apollo seventeen left the Moon's gravity going to
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: the Earth, ten thousand people listen on ham radios heard
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: very distinctly do not return. And we never went back
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: to the Moon. So that's that there's ten thousand guys
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: heard that it's documented.
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: But India can somehow land on the moon.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, no, they you know, they said, you know,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: we've seen the stuff that we put on the Moon,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: but there's a lot of other stuff. Yeah, the Moon
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: Rising the Jose put out, it was actually got the
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: old uh what was that. There's a survey that they
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: did of the moon earlier and before Apollo. I'm trying
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: to remember the name of the project, but anyway, but
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: they did. It goes to a private corporation, right, and
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: then that private corporation edits it and then it goes
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to NASA, but it starts with the sea. But when
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: they did the editing, you can just get Jose's Moon Rising.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I think Gaya owns the copyrights. They just edited out
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like they'll be like a dome. You can see like
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: perfect moon and then you'll see like a blurred dome
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: or a blurred tower or also all that they didn't
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: blend it, right, you know today we blend stuff. They
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: just they just like blanked it out with like a blur.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And so Jose's book, Jose's video Moon Rising Cold just
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: literally see like domes and spires and buildings and stuff
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: that had been blocked out, just but you can see
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: the squares of the circles or the dials. It was
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: like ridiculous Clementine Mission, the Clementine Mission tapes, That's what
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: it was. Yeah, it's just it's just ridiculous, just a
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: ridiculous added job. But you know, you could you could
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: go see Jose's films. They're on I think they're on
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: the guy. Uh, the guy. Uh, you know, they bought
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: out Jose in the bottles products, so they own and
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: I think they sell to you if you want to.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Hmm, that's interesting. I do remember the someone filming there
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: might have been that guy. Like the crafts that are
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: going in and out of.
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: Rots, they go really fast. Yeah, that's that's the main thing.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: But he did he did a bunch of other UFO
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: things besides that. Yeah, and I was involved in that.
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: I've seen some crazy stuff. And they did a show
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: on it, a Fox video show showing all around the
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: world except for the United States because if they showed
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: it in the United States, they have to pay Jose residuals, right,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: So they just used it all over the world. I'm
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: even in it and then they never showed to the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: United States, but the parts they didn't put in. They
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: have these same rod like creatures flying around the space
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: still in orbit, like flying in and out of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: bays and stuff. There's dozens and dozens of shots these
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: things and they have you know, they say they're bugs, right,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: but how can a bug fly in the Shuttle bay
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: in orbit? Right? Kind of hard, not much out there
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: to flop in outer space. But these critters or whatever
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: they are, we're doing that. Yeah, It's kind of goes
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: into Trevor James Constable. He was a friend of mine.
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: I knew Trevor. He taught me a lot about, you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: a different things with they're great engineering and stuff and
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: so yeah, but that was also kind of He would
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: take pictures of using an eighteen A filter on regular
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: cameras and that blocks like all the regular light that
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: allows the ultra violet and the infrared to come through.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: And he would set up his cloudbusters and stuff. He
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: was like one of the original ones, and they take
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: pictures and they'd be like these weird organisms. You couldn't
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: see them in visible light, but there you could see
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: them in ultra violet and infrared light. And he has
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: a book They Live in the Sky, and another They
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: Came from Outer Space. He also wrote a bunch of
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: books about about World War two fighting aces, and uh
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: with My'm with one of my uncles, Colonel Tolliver. So
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: you go out there and find Trevor Dane, Constable, Colonel
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: Turner Calliver about these these World War two fighter races.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: They wrote books together, so it's like two steps removed.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had the guy on the show that he
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: calls them fireflies or whatever that he's.
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: Said, Yeah, the same stuff kind of pretty much the
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: same stuff that Jose was seeing. And they filmed them
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: back then and they didn't have an explanation and they
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: film and stuff like that today and they still don't
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: really have a good explanation on what they are.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah the.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Robert, Yeah, some of it looks it looks real. They've shown,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: you know, they've shown proportions and stuff that this is.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: These things are moving in like hundreds or thousands of
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: miles an hour, and but they don't have an explanation
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: for what they are. Yeah. I've seen, Yeah, I've seen
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: some of this stuff. Yeah, it's the same stuff it's
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: just like the next generation discovers, but the generation knew
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: before that, and then Trevor was the generation even before that.
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: So we're looking at three generations of seeing these things
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and we still don't have an explanation.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one really interesting one that he showed
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: on the channel where this craft like busted through a cloud.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: It was the most seen one that he had. You know,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: other ones, you know, it could be something else other
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: than what they said that it was, but this one
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: literally punctured through a cloud in the sky, made this
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: big burst out the side of the cloud.
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, see that's kind of hard, right.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: A bug can't bust through a cloud.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly the explanation. The same way with those
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: A's pictures. You know, some of them probably were bugs, right,
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: but some of them obviously weren't. Obviously they weren't filming bugs.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: And out of space it seems a little out of
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: their habitat. And like another thing when they remember the
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: old space station, the original one, and one of the
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: things that they did they put this like aerogel on
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: the outside of it. I think they've done it on
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the regular space station we have now, and they just
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: let it sit there for years, right, and then they
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: go outside and they take it in and one of
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: the most common things they found in it was diatoms
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: from seaplankton. How the hell diatoms are like little single
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: cell algae things, but they have a silicate crust. They
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: make a silicate shell for themselves, so the silicate shell
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: is very resistant to damage, right, And they find just
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: a whole bunch of them in the aerogel in the
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: space shuttle of Norman. How the hell did diatoms get
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: out of the ocean to the to Well, some people
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: say it's because spacecraft are coming in and out of
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: the Earth as they fly away from Earth. You know,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: there's water droplets fall off from the ocean, right and
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: inside them there, Well, there's diatoms. Because there's diatoms everywhere
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: in the ocean. It's you know, it's like single cell
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: algae just there everywhere. So how do you get how
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: did diatoms get into the aero jail on the outside
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: of the space station.
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sounds like the Oakville blobs and nineteen ninety
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: four Washington and Oakville, Washington, and their reasoning for that,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: They said that the blobs were exploded Jolly Fitch of
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: miles Inland from.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: You remember the tether incident where the Space Shuttle was
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: pulling that tether to the Earth's magnetic field and it
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: just caused such an electric current that it snapped the
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: cable and then it went floating out there, wabbling back
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: and forth, and all these weird round pulsing things came
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: around them. It's the classes called the tether incident that
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: happened on the space station when it broke. It's it's
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: a real classic. And that they're translucent. They're like these
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: transluts space plankton, that's what I called them. That's another
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: bunch of crazy creators. Man. They wouldn't you know, they
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: probably they're you know, hundreds of feet across, but they
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: probably wouldn't fit into a large glass jar. There's some
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: sort of weird space plankton creatures. That's what they live
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: in the sky. Trevor Chamber Jane Constable talks about or
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the Cosmic Pulse of Life is another one of his books.
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: These are classics that people, you know, I'm kind of
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: getting up there into the classics and this stuff. You know,
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: this stuff was done in the fifties, right, So don't
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: don't just don't worry about today's stuff that before they had,
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: you know, all this this fake camera stuff, right, but
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: you can do back then when they didn't have that technology.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: They've got some really profound evidence. But it's you know,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: it's eighty years ago, seventy years ago. I mean, go back.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: Charles Fork had a bunch of stuff on that stuff.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, so going digging back into the history, you know,
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Trevor Janes Constable, these guys, there's a whole bunch of
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: really good stuff to learn from Forbidden Archaeology. That's an
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: excellent another book I mean for people. I mean, this
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: is like the base right to get to a better understanding.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: These are some of the base sort of books you
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: should read. And there's lots more, by the way, you know,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: they're not the only ones. But that's just a few
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: that I that I found that I've been particularly useful,
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: and I knew Trevor, so I guess I biased so
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Well, Ken, thanks so much for coming on and discussing
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: with me. I think, you know, the audience just needs
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: to make up their own mind, regardless if they believe
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: in extraterrestrials or they don't believe in extraterrestrials. I think
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: just common sense and critical thinking is just important. Here
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: can you let people know where to find you and
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: let people know the names of those books if they again,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: in case.
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: It's Stefano Reccia and it is called fifty Years of Friendship,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: but the Italians say at Emma Caesia, and that's probably
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: not correctly pronounced, so forgive my Italian. I didn't take
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: Italian school. And then the other Stefano RecA wrote mass
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Context that's like the original one. The first third is
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the Umites's disinformation thing, and then some of the things.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, they put these guys on snipe tapes. They
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: were just like running them all over the place. And
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: you know, they spent four hundred and fifty kilograms of platinum,
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: right they built a villa. That's eight hundred pounds of platinum.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: That's a lot of money. I don't know how much
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: eight hundred pounds of platinum is in today's value, but
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: it's a lot. So this was a major operation that
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: these extraterrestrials or whoever they were, were running. And it's
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: really good, a good read, and one should just it's
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: like the source literature, right, I'm kind of from source literature,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: Trevor James, Constable, Steffio Branca and you know Hosea as
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: can be just the people that I know. There's dozens more,
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: but it's a good source material for anybody who wants
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: to learn about UFO to have that. I mean, there's
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: lots of lots of others, but those are some important things.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Where can people find you online if they would like to?
• 59:09
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