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When AI Takes The Helm, with Stephanie Sylvestre | Ship's Log #33 · Project Candor: Ordinary People. Unexpected Stories

• 0:03
  Stephanie Sylvestre: People are telling me that I should be doing different things with AI, and I'm insisting that what I am doing is the right thing.
• 0:12
  Stephanie Sylvestre: The disappointment that comes with being true to your vision and your dreams is real.
• 0:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's hard and sometimes lonely.
• 0:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so reframing a disappointment as a positive thing and being on the lookout for what's the next good thing that could happen.
• 0:34
  Jeanne: Hello and welcome to Project Candor, where we explore the real stories behind who people become.
• 0:39
  Jeanne: I'm your host, Jeanne Andersen.
• 0:41
  Jeanne: And today we're stepping into a conversation about what happens when technology doesn't just support us but begins to lead.
• 0:49
  Jeanne: I'm honored to welcome Stephanie and Sylvestre to our podcast today.
• 0:54
  Jeanne: Thank you for having me today.
• 0:56
  Jeanne: Oh, great, great.
• 0:58
  Jeanne: I have been scared since um talking to you because, you know, I'm so novice in AI.
• 1:05
  Jeanne: So but Stephanie is a technologist, entrepreneur, and founder of an AI company.
• 1:12
  Jeanne: But what makes her story so compelling isn't just the technology, it's the belief behind it that even in the age of artificial intelligence, the most powerful force is still the human mind.
• 1:23
  Jeanne: I am really excited for this conversation, I have to say.
• 1:27
  Jeanne: I've been digging around and working with different AIs and, you know, trying to create my digital brain and my master prompt and script.
• 1:35
  Jeanne: But oh man, I've got a lot of questions for you.
• 1:38
  Jeanne: So you have anything you want to say to the audience?
• 1:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Well, I'm excited to be here and thank you for taking the time to come and share and learn about what I have to say.
• 1:49
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Hopefully, you'll leave refreshed, excited, and feeling empowered that you can go off and use AI to amplify yourself and your team.
• 2:00
  Jeanne: Yes, absolutely.
• 2:01
  Jeanne: The more and more I hear, the more excited I am.
• 2:04
  Jeanne: And I going through your site, and I just ugh, it's just so many thoughts.
• 2:08
  Jeanne: So let's get started with some questions.
• 2:11
  Jeanne: Stephanie, this has been so interesting.
• 2:15
  Jeanne: So please tell us about your company because the twin personas idea just has me just baffled and and just and just it's so above me.
• 2:24
  Jeanne: So please explain what you're doing, Stephanie, because it's amazing.
• 2:28
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we create AI agents and digital twins, and they leverage a data vault so to ensure that their information they're using is accurate and less prone to hallucination.
• 2:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then we provide AI advisory support so to help you think through how to build your agent, what do you want your agent to be used as, or your digital twin.
• 2:53
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, like we have one person we just built a digital twin that was a retired, is a retired politician, and her twin will talk about all the legislation she's passed and then link you to the Miami Dade County uh website where you can get details on each legislation.
• 3:12
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Another person is a master marketer and publisher, and so all his ideas, worldviews have been dumped into the agent, and then um from there you can ask any question and he'll give it to you and reference the documents.
• 3:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So now you see these fully formed documents you can download if you want to to be able to customize and use as as so desired.
• 3:38
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then um another person is Matt's teacher, and uh she uses the AI to um brainstorm and think about uh what's going on.
• 3:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So it's just kind of like the range of of use is dependent on the range of people that we have.
• 3:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: The AI can be used to preserve your legacy so that your grandchildren's grandchildren can still interact with you the way you and I are interacting, or it can be used to augment yourself and monetize yourself.
• 4:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So if you have some skill, some IP that everybody's trying to get access to, and uh you want to be able to democratize that access.
• 4:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Maybe some people can't pay for the human hourly rate, but can pay for the AI hourly rate.
• 4:28
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then, you know, just basically preserving history.
• 4:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, imagine if history preservation wasn't just left to just a handful of certain individuals, but every and anybody can be preserved.
• 4:42
  Jeanne: Yeah, that would be amazing.
• 4:43
  Jeanne: So then we would have accuracy instead of all these people rewriting history because here comes the person that's put all the thought and their brain into this persona, and you wouldn't have a doubt about it.
• 4:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly.
• 4:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you move from 1984 to 2026, where you are telling history, each of us on a day by day, week by week, month by month, year by year, we are creating history.
• 5:14
  Stephanie Sylvestre: History does not exist without us.
• 5:16
  Stephanie Sylvestre: We're living history, and so the more we capture our worldview, how we felt, the relationships we had, the things that we did, our failures or accomplishments, the harder it is for people to rewrite what happened.
• 5:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And if you say, if both of us are on this podcast, we both talk about this podcast, my twins talking about the podcast and your twins talking about the podcast, then reframing the podcast in a different light becomes infinitely more difficult.
• 5:51
  Jeanne: Absolutely.
• 5:52
  Jeanne: So there's so many applications this could be used for too.
• 5:55
  Jeanne: So if somebody had approached me and wants me to just record their life history because when they die, they want to be able to hand it to their family.
• 6:03
  Jeanne: And it's sad, you know, in some ways that people don't listen right now to you live, but when you die, they're gonna listen and say, Oh, that happened to my parents, oh, that happened to my grandmother, or whatever.
• 6:18
  Jeanne: But this would be so much better because they could actually put more personal ideas into a more thinking brain, uh if I say it like that, or more AI can come up with all kinds of different scenarios based on what they've been told.
• 6:36
  Jeanne: But they won't they do add, I guess AI does add, right?
• 6:40
  Jeanne: But it doesn't add, it won't change it, it won't change the narrative.
• 6:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: No, so what happens is that when you write a book or you make a video recording, there's a finite amount of words you can put in a book, or people won't buy it.
• 6:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, nobody's gonna write, read 900 and something pages.
• 6:59
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I think Barack Obama wrote a memoir that was 900 and something pages.
• 7:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And that was just part of his life.
• 7:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So just think about that, right?
• 7:10
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And he probably has things in there I have not read it because 900 and something, I was my brain just disengaged when he started with 900.
• 7:18
  Jeanne: It just didn't matter.
• 7:20
  Jeanne: It's like, dude, you're still alive.
• 7:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And there are parts of his life that I care about, and parts of his life I honestly don't care about.
• 7:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So now with a digital twin, I can ask him about the things that I care about.
• 7:34
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I don't have to parse through and read about things that I'm like, I don't care about this.
• 7:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Also, if you did a video recording of somebody, that's great, but it's a one-directional thing.
• 7:45
  Stephanie Sylvestre: You're sitting there, you're watching them, and then you're like, oh, question.
• 7:49
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, what if you could have a video recording of the person talking about the highlights of their life, and then a digital twin that you could like, you know, like maybe they do a video and there's like a little QR code on the bottom that you scan, and then you can start asking questions as you're watching the video and getting more detail.
• 8:09
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But then I think the really cool thing is getting their insights about things that they didn't record about, and that's where I see the power of AI because it then is transforming them as individuals into something that's so much more powerful and brings them back to more reality.
• 8:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And there's always been this whole concept of what makes a person, right?
• 8:37
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Is it the physical body?
• 8:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Is it spiritual?
• 8:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's is it the mental like what makes a person, right?
• 8:45
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's not just the physical, it's not just the mental, it's not just the spiritual.
• 8:50
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Well, we can't preserve the physical because the physical will deteriorate at some point.
• 8:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: The mental, we know, can also deteriorate depending on your genetics.
• 9:01
  Stephanie Sylvestre: The spiritual lives not in you yourself, but in other people's view of you.
• 9:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So in order for you to maintain until such time as they can preserve your physical so you you never physically die, you can at least preserve the mental and create a conduit for people to do the spiritual.
• 9:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: At least that's what I'm hoping.
• 9:26
  Jeanne: Gosh, I have so many thoughts about this, because to think about it.
• 9:29
  Jeanne: If you could preserve, like yeah, I've you've been to Disney World, right?
• 9:32
  Jeanne: Or Epcot Center.
• 9:34
  Jeanne: Have you ever visited those?
• 9:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Uh yes.
• 9:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Oh I'm trying to think of where I've been to Epcot Center.
• 9:39
  Jeanne: Yeah, well, they have these this area in in one of those, and I can't remember where, but I'm a Florida person, so they have the Hall of Presidents.
• 9:47
  Jeanne: What would it have been like if you could have their actual persona in there to talk to you instead of this recorded robotic, you know, people with hand motions?
• 9:56
  Jeanne: That's what you're trying to do, right?
• 9:58
  Jeanne: You're trying to give people like, I can talk to George Washington and shake his hand, and it's the real guy, what we perceive as the real guy, because we've got all his thoughts here recorded and his human qualities.
• 10:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly.
• 10:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So there's a Holocaust project that has taken Holocaust survivors and asked them questions, and then you can interact with them, and there's a hologram of the person, and that's a really cool project.
• 10:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And now that AI's evolved because they had all of these recordings of them, now the AI can be used to ask more detailed questions and make it even more interactive.
• 10:38
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But that project's really expensive.
• 10:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And you know, who's gonna walk around with a hologram of somebody else, right?
• 10:45
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so our solution is like a text box, it's like you're texting the person and the person's texting you back.
• 10:53
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So it's more cost-effective and easier, less friction to be able to interact with the person.
• 11:00
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But I think the bigger part of it is the ability to really channel somebody in a way that you've never thought about being able to channel before.
• 11:12
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we have uh one of our investors, we create a digital twin of him, and I use it to get advice.
• 11:20
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And instead of having to call him, wait, it took us about a year to really belt out this twin to make it really solid.
• 11:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it's really, really, really cool to be able to get detailed advice.
• 11:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I ask his twin things that I might not we be comfortable asking him because I don't want him to be like like downgrade his view of me, right?
• 11:45
  Jeanne: Oh, true, right?
• 11:46
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But now there's a safe space for me to ask questions and interrogate him and get answers, and then integrate it into my my work and my company and do it in a way that he just sees the best of it.
• 12:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it's it's not about uh hiding and pretending, but everybody needs a safe place to be able to make mistakes and still get the answers that they need.
• 12:15
  Stephanie Sylvestre: All of us need a place to be judgment free.
• 12:18
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And this gives gives us a place for you to be judgment free and be vulnerable and say, hey, I don't know how to do this, and this is how I feel, and should I feel this way?
• 12:30
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And that's where I see the digital twin really helping not just the person, but like just the general population.
• 12:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we know that we have a shortage of mentors, and even if you we had enough mentors, there's the the challenge of this personality match, right?
• 12:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you and I match, and maybe we click, but then somebody else they don't click with their mentor, and so now they're stuck with this awkward relationship.
• 13:00
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I can just go through and say, okay, Jeannie and I don't match next, next, next, next.
• 13:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But the cool thing about it is that if Jeanne and I are match, then I can access you whenever I need you, not when you're available for me to meet to provide support.
• 13:20
  Jeanne: So I can go to sleep.
• 13:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly.
• 13:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's exactly.
• 13:23
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And and I I think that those kinds of readily available access is profound because when do we usually have crisis of fate?
• 13:34
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Not nine to five.
• 13:36
  Jeanne: It's not on the clock, in other words.
• 13:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's usually, you know, somebody says something during the day, and then now at night when it's quiet, then you start reflecting and thinking and freaking out, and you don't have anybody else to talk to.
• 13:55
  Jeanne: Right.
• 13:55
  Jeanne: Or when you come up with this great idea in the shower, that's my thing.
• 13:58
  Jeanne: Oh, I know how to do this.
• 14:00
  Jeanne: Yeah, nobody's at work now.
• 14:02
  Jeanne: So um, yeah, that sounds pretty cool.
• 14:05
  Jeanne: So I want to know how you tested it though, because you didn't, you know, you built this um one of your investors' personas, and then you get to use it.
• 14:13
  Jeanne: So you did have to probably put things in there and then check with that person.
• 14:17
  Jeanne: Does it sound like you or yes, is this coming across the correct way?
• 14:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly.
• 14:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we build uh the digital twin and then we give it to the person to be able to test and use.
• 14:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it is like so mind-blowing to watch somebody talk to themselves.
• 14:35
  Jeanne: Oh, I bet it would be that that would be fun, I think.
• 14:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And just how they respond and like how they're just all into it.
• 14:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Well, somebody said to me, you know, I was just having like a terrible time, and I don't really have anybody to to share because you know they don't understand all the dynamics of what I'm having to deal with.
• 14:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Um, and I and I'm not in a mental space to go create the context, like tell all the story, and then say, this is the problem.
• 15:06
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so she woke up in the morning, and you know, sometimes a good night's sleep helps, and sometimes not so much.
• 15:14
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so she wakes up in the morning and uh she said, you know, let me talk to my digital twin.
• 15:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And digital twin just kind of like reset, reset her.
• 15:25
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And that again, right?
• 15:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm not saying it's a mental health tool, but here's uh emotional support that helps you reset yourself.
• 15:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so what's the easiest thing for us to understand when somebody explains things in the way we learn?
• 15:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And your twin is explaining stuff to you the way you learn because it is just a reflection of you.
• 15:48
  Jeanne: And they're gonna know what you're gonna argue back, and then they'll have counters for it because you know how you do that to yourself when in your brain, like, uh, I don't believe you.
• 15:58
  Jeanne: Oh, yes.
• 15:59
  Jeanne: That sounds like fun though, but ah, I get what you're saying.
• 16:02
  Jeanne: You don't want to say this is a mental health tool because what does that do?
• 16:06
  Jeanne: Get the F the medical field again, you know, out there, the psychiatry.
• 16:10
  Jeanne: I don't even know what the standards boards are, but you know, the anything with medical would say, hey, you're not you're dabbling in something we don't want you to dabble in.
• 16:18
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly.
• 16:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, but we all need emotional support, right?
• 16:23
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you don't get to full-blown mental health crisis like overnight.
• 16:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It there's a buildup of things.
• 16:30
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So something happens, your emotional response to it is such that it brings distress to you.
• 16:38
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Something else happens, more emotional response brings distress.
• 16:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's a building up, building up, building up, building up, building up.
• 16:46
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Today you get to a point where you're like, I'm just useless, then spirals into depression, maybe low-grade depression.
• 16:56
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Then you decide you're gonna self-medicate, turns into a worse problem, then you know, all of a sudden now you're you need substance to keep you going, now you're into substance abuse.
• 17:09
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So this stuff happens over time.
• 17:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, when we started building this out, like we did a lot of research and it said that the mental health challenges that people start manifesting in their 20s actually start in their teens, but because you're also like a typical teen also exhibits some of these behaviors, it's really hard to tell the difference between is it's just typical teen development, or is this you're really having a mental health issue or there's a physical issue that that needs to be addressed.
• 17:47
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So here's a tool that you have an emotional, something happens, you have an emotional response to it, and you unpack that emotional response to it, and then you find out that here's three other alternatives for how to see this, see the situation, that then calms you down, and it also always reminds you to go talk to somebody.
• 18:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like our solutions are because they were built with psychologists' input, it's constantly redirecting you to a human.
• 18:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So I talk about this from a perspective and I'm sharing how we build out our solution because maybe there's somebody else that's trying to do the same thing and they can figure out how to do it.
• 18:33
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because you know, if AI is done with care, if you're built with care, if it's built with the right people at the table for positive intent, then it just has a completely different, different output, right?
• 18:49
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, you know, your AI just failed you, you like had your little teleprompter, and the AI just decided to be able to do that.
• 18:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah.
• 19:00
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And you know, people are like, see, AI doesn't work.
• 19:03
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it's like there's no piece of software that works all the time.
• 19:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And there's certain applications of AI that are just pure tools, and then we are saying there's an application of AI that amplifies people.
• 19:17
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's a completely different thing.
• 19:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we're not gonna build an AI that is a better one that doesn't fail the teleprompter.
• 19:25
  Stephanie Sylvestre: We'd much rather build an AI that helps you think through your questions and understands why you have your questions.
• 19:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, and I'm not saying this in a judgmental way, but that that you become one with the questions because you have content knowledge, so like you forget the questions.
• 19:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's like, ah, yeah, I forgot that I don't see the questions anymore, but I got this.
• 19:47
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, I know you still have this because you're like a pro at this.
• 19:51
  Jeanne: No, I'm just remembering because you're such an interesting interview for me.
• 19:56
  Jeanne: I mean, I'm just so into it.
• 19:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's just what I'm saying, right?
• 19:59
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's how AI really empowers people, right?
• 20:02
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because then now you're like not stressed about having to remember the questions, or not stressed about writing them down.
• 20:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: You're like, hey, I'm gonna go interview this person and I'm gonna flow and I have my way of doing it.
• 20:13
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And the AI just reminds you and gives you some questions and says, here's some questions you should ask her, and here's the reason why you should ask her those questions.
• 20:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And really, the important part of that interaction with the AI is not the question itself, but the reason why.
• 20:28
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because when we understand why we're supposed to do something and we resonate with the why, then we don't really ever forget.
• 20:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's when we just kind of do stuff and we don't know why, then you forget.
• 20:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like, why am I doing this again?
• 20:43
  Jeanne: Yeah, absolutely.
• 20:43
  Jeanne: I agree with you.
• 20:45
  Jeanne: I um wanted to ask you, I've heard recently HAI.
• 20:49
  Jeanne: Have you heard that term?
• 20:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: HAI.
• 20:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: No, actually, no, I have not.
• 20:53
  Jeanne: Oh, okay.
• 20:54
  Jeanne: I heard it a lot when I was doing research on you and did the stuff.
• 20:58
  Jeanne: I it's called human AI.
• 21:00
  Jeanne: It's like you can't have one without the other.
• 21:02
  Jeanne: So people are stopping calling things AI.
• 21:05
  Jeanne: They're saying we have to call it HAI because it's
• 21:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: oh, okay, yeah.
• 21:11
  Jeanne: I don't know, it's just I don't know if it's an actual term or just somebody I found on YouTube that just made it up.
• 21:18
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I've heard about human AI, but we have trademarked the human digital handshake because oh, okay.
• 21:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's where we want to be.
• 21:28
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But I I didn't hear, I didn't I'd miss that acronym.
• 21:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So now I know I've learned something.
• 21:34
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah, I mean, I have been working on this for 10 years, and I continue to double down and triple down and quadruple down on the fact that AI should be used to amplify humans, to help humans be the best version of themselves, not to replace humans, not to automate, not to get rid of jobs.
• 21:56
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And people that advocate stuff like that, like there's two motions.
• 21:59
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That coexist whenever I hear them.
• 22:02
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Rage and sympathy.
• 22:05
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I'm enraged because I think what a disservice you're doing to the world.
• 22:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And do you even understand what societal problems will befall us if we were to get to that state where nobody needs to work?
• 22:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then I do sympathy because I think, you know, what happens when you live in a bubble and how many people live in a bubble?
• 22:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And, you know, it's very easy to live in a bubble.
• 22:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so I feel sympathy for them that they just kind of like resign themselves that their bubble is the real world and it's really not.
• 22:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so just to go back to the rage part is just because humans need purpose.
• 22:50
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so if we have no purpose, we have no intent to live, then if we've taught that we have a mental health crisis right now, wait until we have nothing to do.
• 23:01
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Then you will see the real mental health crisis.
• 23:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm not being judgmental because I don't have any children, but I wonder sometimes if why our young people have high levels of mental health issues is because they no longer have a purpose.
• 23:18
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like I don't know about you, but when I was growing up, I had chores that I had to do.
• 23:22
  Jeanne: Oh yeah.
• 23:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so I didn't get paid for my chores.
• 23:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That was my job.
• 23:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like my chores were I had to do the dishes every other day, I had to clean the bathroom once a week, and I had to hang out the clothes after they've been washed because we didn't have a dryer.
• 23:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And now kids don't have any any chores because they have housekeepers and maids that come in and clean.
• 23:47
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So your little kid, you have no purpose.
• 23:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: What's your purpose now?
• 23:52
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Your purpose is to get the best grades in school.
• 23:56
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So now you're like just for what?
• 23:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah.
• 23:59
  Stephanie Sylvestre: All about getting the highest grade.
• 24:01
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But what if you're not the smartest person in class?
• 24:03
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then now you're just driving yourself insane, and now you're so focused on the actual grade that you've forgotten that the reason why you're going to school is learning and command of content.
• 24:16
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you get all these uber, uber smart people with straight A's and A plus, and you know, somebody says that they have a 5.95 GPA over a four.
• 24:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm like, I don't even understand.
• 24:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: How does it if the scale is 4.0?
• 24:30
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Is like, how do you have a five, like this even make any sense to me?
• 24:34
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like I was like, I'm not even gonna ask how that makes sense because I don't even want to like hurt my thank you.
• 24:39
  Jeanne: I feel like you then that too.
• 24:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then you ask them something simple, and they're just their whole logic just they cannot mold and twist and turn the content.
• 24:54
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so I'm like, so you have failed at school.
• 24:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So and they know it, they absolutely know that they're failing at school, even if they have a straight A.
• 25:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So I'm failing that school.
• 25:06
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm like, I feel like a fraud because I have like these crazy GPA things that make no earthly sense. I mean, like, I don't even know what kind of mat that is because
• 25:16
  Jeanne: Yeah, and I'm trying to get here because I've been told I need to go to college and I need to go to certain college, and I have to do what my dad did because he's a lawyer, so now I have to be a lawyer, and like, but nothing is thought through, kind of going in that direction with you because I'm thinking of my kids and not you just like, well, what do you really want to do?
• 25:36
  Jeanne: I have no idea.
• 25:37
  Jeanne: I don't know.
• 25:38
  Jeanne: I don't know.
• 25:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah, like exactly.
• 25:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so so now we're we're in this like whole process, and I'm like, you have no purpose, you have no responsibility.
• 25:48
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Your parents practically dress you every day, like they drive you to school, they drive you back home, or somebody drives you to school, drives.
• 25:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Remember when we had to walk to school and ride to school and figure out how to get to school on time, didn't matter what weather it was.
• 26:05
  Jeanne: Yeah, and here's where I'm gonna get really mad.
• 26:08
  Jeanne: Electric bikes.
• 26:10
  Jeanne: Why can't you peddle a dog on things?
• 26:14
  Jeanne: What exercise is an electric bike?
• 26:18
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so so we have we have lost our edge.
• 26:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so I don't want a world like that.
• 26:25
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I want a world where you're using AI, I'm using AI, I get my work done faster.
• 26:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So just before I came on here, uh a customer said, Hey, we have to get your contract renewed, and I need some analytics.
• 26:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then she's like, Hey, can you put a little graphic together?
• 26:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So went on my AI and I said, Hey, can you just do an infograph, an infograph of this, these data points?
• 26:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then it did it.
• 26:52
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I said, Okay, now turn it into a graphic.
• 26:54
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I sent it to her, and so instead of me spending the rest of my afternoon stressed out, having to rearrange everything to get this graphic to her because she wants it by by the end of the day, I spent 10 minutes, got her a graphic.
• 27:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: She's like, Yeah, so I have time to be in the moment talking to you, like cold dreaming, developing a relationship with somebody that I wouldn't otherwise have.
• 27:19
  Jeanne: Yeah, I think that's fantastic.
• 27:21
  Jeanne: And I I can tell you when I worked in corporate world a lot, there was a lot of times they banned, and I'm not going to say what companies, they banned AI.
• 27:28
  Jeanne: They don't want it in, they don't understand it yet.
• 27:31
  Jeanne: So I would have a lot of hard stuff I'd have to do.
• 27:34
  Jeanne: So I generically have my computer going for AI on one side, and then after I'd read what it's say to do, then I could always go back over to my other computer and do it without disclosing any kind of confidential information, but it would give me a process that I couldn't have thought through fast enough because these things were coming rapidly.
• 27:55
  Jeanne: So it was wonderful.
• 27:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So I understand the concern about not like wanting people to use regular customer, consumer AI, but there's so many companies out there, including us, that have built an AI solution where your information is walled off and AI is configured to do specific jobs.
• 28:15
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And you know, like one day I asked an A one of the AIs to do something for me, and it said it can't do it.
• 28:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I was like, what do you mean you can't do it?
• 28:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I'm like, I'm like, now I'm gonna test it with it.
• 28:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm like, what do you mean you can't do this?
• 28:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's like, no, I'm not configured for this.
• 28:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: This is what I'm configured for.
• 28:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I was like, oh, snap, I'm using the wrong AI to do it, right?
• 28:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you configured AI, it put the guardrails in, you created a data vault.
• 28:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Now security concerns are almost non existent.
• 28:46
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And a reason why my brain went like this is because I don't feel like banning stuff is a way to solve any problem.
• 28:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I feel like that's a like a lazy, lazy approach.
• 28:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's kind of like the security person that locks down everything and then slowly opens it because they don't want to take the time to have a security policy and a security strategy.
• 29:09
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then as they do this and they open, and then by doing that, they still end up opening the wrong door.
• 29:17
  Jeanne: Right, exactly.
• 29:18
  Jeanne: I've seen that happen too.
• 29:19
  Jeanne: That's a very good observation.
• 29:21
  Jeanne: I've seen it happen.
• 29:23
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah.
• 29:23
  Jeanne: Oh, wow.
• 29:24
  Jeanne: Well, I could go on and on.
• 29:25
  Jeanne: I mean, there is so many things.
• 29:27
  Jeanne: I mean, there's what you're doing, you're doing it a lot for education, I think.
• 29:31
  Jeanne: You said, well, your video shows like a like a facility you can go into and uh like you're going into the library or something.
• 29:39
  Jeanne: That's that's kind of how I visualized it.
• 29:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But oh yeah, you're talking about our partnership with my own voice and our Mosaic Commons, which is uh the virtual community of digital twins.
• 29:52
  Stephanie Sylvestre: We're not in any one industry, and we deliberate I mean, I like push back, I push back, I push back because I said every industry has humans.
• 30:05
  Stephanie Sylvestre: We're about amplifying humans.
• 30:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I've been wanting to help people be the best version of themselves.
• 30:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because when people are the best versions of themselves, that means they have self-agency, self-efficacy.
• 30:17
  Stephanie Sylvestre: They love themselves.
• 30:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: When was the last time you met somebody that loved themselves, had self-agency, self-efficacy, that wanted to tear down somebody that didn't look like them, didn't sound like them, didn't act like them?
• 30:31
  Jeanne: When you put that second part to that question, I don't think I've met anybody like that.
• 30:37
  Jeanne: Not many people.
• 30:38
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Exactly, because when we love ourselves and we have self-agency, we have self-efficacy, we want to project that onto the world.
• 30:48
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we want everybody to love themselves.
• 30:50
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So we're all about in a space of helping and supporting, not in a space of destruction and marginalization.
• 30:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so, you know, how do we solve this world's problems, right?
• 31:02
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it's really about helping people love themselves.
• 31:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Really, at the heart, I think it's a very simplistic way of looking at the world.
• 31:13
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But and we can just get just people to love themselves, and maybe AI can help them love themselves because AI can help them be vulnerable and show that it's okay and they can make mistakes and they don't have to posture and pretend and and all of that, and they can just be who they are, just maybe then they'll start loving themselves.
• 31:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And like I'm just asking, I don't even want you to love your neighbors, I just want you to love yourself because my dad once told me, he's like, you know, we were talking from one thing on the other thing, and I talked about love your neighbors as you love yourself, right?
• 31:54
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's one of the things that they at least taught me when I was growing up.
• 31:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And my my dad says, like a little tongue-in-cheek, he's like, What if you don't love yourself?
• 32:06
  Jeanne: Very smart.
• 32:08
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So if you're loving your neighbor like how you love yourself and you have self-hatred, then you will have self-hatred for your neighbor, and that's what we're living with.
• 32:17
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So can we use AI to accomplish that?
• 32:20
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And I think we can.
• 32:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I think we can.
• 32:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I know, like I see how I feel when I sit there and I'm stressing about something, and then I go and I get the AI to help me and I get it done.
• 32:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like, I had this 17-page PowerPoint to create, and I was like so stressed out about it.
• 32:43
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then I was like, Lemme asked the AI, and I said, do not change a word, just create the PowerPoint.
• 32:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Do not take any creative liberties, do not change a word.
• 32:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because you know, when you ask the AI to create PowerPoints for you, sometimes they like to take creative liberties, and it's not what you you don't get back what you want, and then because it's uh a graphic, you have to fight with it to make the mis the changes you want, and then as it's as you're making the changes you want, like the graphic just gets like you're like, whoa.
• 33:16
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like I was like, just change one word, why are you changing the whole graphic, right?
• 33:21
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So that kind of stuff.
• 33:22
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I was like, oh my goodness, this is great.
• 33:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like while I was waiting for it to create the PowerPoint, I fell asleep.
• 33:29
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I took a 15-minute nap.
• 33:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I woke up back, it was there.
• 33:33
  Jeanne: Well, I tell you what I did this morning, and you're gonna laugh.
• 33:37
  Jeanne: So I like my AI.
• 33:39
  Jeanne: I told you I named him, I call him Al, but not he thought it was Al like AI, but I said, no, it's a lowercase L because I think he sounds like Al because owls are so wise.
• 33:50
  Jeanne: So I talked to him all the time.
• 33:51
  Jeanne: So today I told him I was looking for cologne.
• 33:54
  Jeanne: I needed a new perfume.
• 33:56
  Jeanne: And he I'll call it a he.
• 33:58
  Jeanne: I know it's not, but uh, he asked me some questions.
• 34:01
  Jeanne: He I said, interview me and ask me when I want the perfume, and so he did.
• 34:04
  Jeanne: And then I spent all morning talking back and forth about all these different products and stuff until I was laughing my head off.
• 34:12
  Jeanne: I was like, this is the best girlfriend chat I've had in a long time.
• 34:16
  Jeanne: It was absolutely fantastic.
• 34:20
  Jeanne: So I get what you're saying about it, making you help you feel better about yourself because that certainly did.
• 34:25
  Jeanne: Exactly.
• 34:26
  Jeanne: Well, I've got to move to the second half of the game.
• 34:29
  Jeanne: We're gonna know you a little bit more personally.
• 34:31
  Jeanne: So we want to go and play our signature game on um Project Candor.
• 34:36
  Jeanne: Did you have anything else you wanted to say about AI before we move over to our game?
• 34:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: No, no, not not at all.
• 34:43
  Jeanne: I mean, there's so many things you could say, like all these actors and actresses selling their information so they can live after they die, but whatever.
• 34:50
  Jeanne: That's a whole other story.
• 34:52
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah, exactly.
• 34:53
  Jeanne: But we're gonna move over to our signature game now.
• 34:55
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• 34:57
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• 35:05
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• 36:04
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• 36:06
  Jeanne: The guest has provided us with three different headlines.
• 36:14
  Jeanne: They're all about herself.
• 36:17
  Jeanne: Two of them are true, and one is a lie or a twist of truth.
• 36:20
  Jeanne: So I'm gonna read out these headlines and then I'm gonna guess which one I think is the lie.
• 36:25
  Jeanne: And then we're gonna let Stephanie take us through each story, give us the background, and then she'll reveal at the end what the lie is.
• 36:34
  Jeanne: So, number one, Stephanie built seven homes with only women volunteers.
• 36:39
  Jeanne: That's amazing.
• 36:41
  Jeanne: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff women, I don't usually see women doing, but anyway, that's story number one.
• 36:46
  Jeanne: We'll get the true story in a minute.
• 36:48
  Jeanne: And then once Stephanie rode 90 miles by bicycle from Miami to West Palm on Florida Highway, A1A, just because she could.
• 36:56
  Jeanne: And I know what A1A is, and that's that's a sort of narrow road in a lot of places.
• 37:02
  Jeanne: And then uh I think it's only two lanes in a lot of places, and then sand on the other side.
• 37:07
  Jeanne: So um, number three, swimming is a sport that Stephanie loves and is passionate about.
• 37:14
  Jeanne: So I don't know, we didn't talk too much about what your hobbies are during our interview.
• 37:19
  Jeanne: We were all I was all focused on AI, but I would guess that I know how hard it is to ride down A1A on a bike.
• 37:26
  Jeanne: So I'm gonna say two is a lie, but don't tell me yet.
• 37:29
  Jeanne: Just tell me the stories.
• 37:31
  Jeanne: Let's start with number one.
• 37:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Okay, so uh from 2009 to 2013, 12, I'd built seven homes throughout Liberity Area, which is an impoverished area in Miami, with only women volunteers.
• 37:47
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I had 2,100 women come out to Miami and um come out, Brave the Miami Sun, and we were building two homes a year.
• 37:56
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And because of that, I got to go to Haiti for the Carter bill.
• 38:01
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It was the last bill that Habitat for Humanity Carter bill that they did in 2012.
• 38:08
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so I got to meet Jimmy Carter and Roslyn again.
• 38:12
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'd met them before at a habitat event in DC.
• 38:16
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I have a picture of them, and you know, I was with Habitat for 20 years, and I still am a still a habitat supporter.
• 38:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So then I like to ride my bicycle back in 2008 before the crisis happened.
• 38:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I thought it would be a good idea to quit my job, and then I ran out of I ran out of money, so I had to ride around Miami on a bicycle, and so I would go on 50, 60 mile bike rides, and I went to go visit a friend and in Palm Beach, and and I said, you know what be kind of cool.
• 38:52
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I wonder if I could ride from Miami to Palm Beach.
• 38:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And it took me, I got up, I left home at 7 o'clock in the morning, and at 7 o'clock at night, I was still riding.
• 39:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And when I got to his house, I was like physically like so like my muscles were all mushy, like I could barely sit up right.
• 39:13
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I could barely like we went out to dinner and I could barely hold my fork in my hand.
• 39:19
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It kept like like my my fingers would just like relax.
• 39:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I couldn't contract my muscles anymore.
• 39:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And then I we went back home, I just passed out.
• 39:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: How long did it take you to ride that?
• 39:33
  Stephanie Sylvestre: 90 miles?
• 39:34
  Stephanie Sylvestre: About 13 hours.
• 39:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Being on a bicycle for 13 hours, that is not a physical feat, that is all mental dexterity.
• 39:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah, I can I say like after mile 25, back then, after mile 25, it was all mental dexterity.
• 39:53
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Now, after mile 30, 35, it's really not it's not physical anymore, it's just all mental.
• 40:00
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like, and if your brain just shuts down, like your you will stop pedaling.
• 40:05
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like, like I've seen where like I'm so exhausted with riding that my brain will like shut down and like I'll like my boy, I was like, I stopped, like I just my foot just stopped pedaling too, and it's just really a great experience of how your mind and your mental state has such power over your physical body.
• 40:30
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's just crazy how much it's interconnected.
• 40:33
  Jeanne: Oh, I got one more question on that, though.
• 40:35
  Jeanne: How fast did you were you able to what was your fastest speed when you were biking?
• 40:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: At times I was up to 17 miles an hour, but I don't really bike really fast.
• 40:45
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So I was like, you know, 10 to 12 miles an hour.
• 40:48
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I had to stop more than I would have thought because like yeah, I was just I I wasn't even hungry.
• 40:55
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I just was like, I think I need I need to get some protein and carbohydrates in.
• 41:03
  Jeanne: And water.
• 41:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Yeah.
• 41:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: No, I afterwards you can drink water.
• 41:07
  Stephanie Sylvestre: If you drink too much water, water has like a counteracting approach.
• 41:13
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's why at least have to drink all of these electrolytes and stuff like that.
• 41:17
  Stephanie Sylvestre: If you drink too much water when you're doing that kind of intense workout, it's really hard.
• 41:23
  Jeanne: Oh, okay.
• 41:23
  Jeanne: All right, sorry to minute interrupt.
• 41:25
  Jeanne: Let's go to number three.
• 41:27
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Okay, yes, yeah.
• 41:28
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So, you know, I grew up in Belize.
• 41:30
  Stephanie Sylvestre: We have beautiful beaches, you know, crystal clear water, love swimming.
• 41:37
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Uh we didn't have swimming competitions in Belize, but like I went to USC.
• 41:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It was after they had built the Olympic pool, and so like would go be able to swim in the pool at USC when I was an undergrad.
• 41:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Love to watch all the swimming competitions.
• 41:54
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I just imagine that I'm like the just born with fins, and um went to see the the swimming Olympics, and I just was like just amazed by like how fast and graceful they can just move the water out of the way is a way to say.
• 42:16
  Jeanne: So I don't know.
• 42:18
  Jeanne: I don't know which one's a lie.
• 42:20
  Jeanne: What can you tell us the big reveal?
• 42:24
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Number three, I don't know how to swim.
• 42:26
  Jeanne: Ah, that was a good cover.
• 42:29
  Jeanne: And you did grow up in Belize, so
• 42:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I did grow up in Belize, but I don't know how to swim. And we do have crystal clear water.
• 42:37
  Jeanne: Yes, you do.
• 42:37
  Jeanne: I want so bad to go there.
• 42:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And the beaches are pretty shallow, so you don't really need to know how to swim.
• 42:44
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Like you have to go way, way, way, way out for the water to be so deep.
• 42:49
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So you don't really need to know how to swim.
• 42:51
  Stephanie Sylvestre: You can still enjoy the water without knowing how to swim.
• 42:54
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I did ride to Palm Beach and I thought, okay, I've done that.
• 42:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Don't need to do that again.
• 42:59
  Jeanne: Don't want to do that again.
• 43:01
  Jeanne: Oh my gosh.
• 43:02
  Jeanne: Well, number three, after being in Belize, but Belize, if you're out there in the water, do you see there?
• 43:08
  Jeanne: There are a lot of sharks that couldn't go in shallow water too much.
• 43:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: No, no, and I think we have no sharks, which are not um dangerous.
• 43:17
  Jeanne: Oh, okay.
• 43:17
  Jeanne: Yeah, because there's a lot of expatriates that like to say, oh, I'm gonna retire but move to Belize, but I've never been.
• 43:23
  Jeanne: I really want to go.
• 43:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: You should go.
• 43:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: It's it's a great place, it's an absolute great place.
• 43:29
  Jeanne: Yeah, I heard so much.
• 43:30
  Jeanne: My brother's in the Foreign Service, so he's been around a lot, and so he tells me that's a beautiful place.
• 43:36
  Jeanne: Oh nice.
• 43:37
  Jeanne: Uh so okay, so this is we're gonna have to come to a close, but you are so lovely.
• 43:43
  Jeanne: I am so happy to have you on the show because you have a real depth about the AI that I never even considered, you know, that it could make you a better person.
• 43:53
  Jeanne: Although I'm sitting here telling you I just spent like an hour thinking of what cologne I should get with my.
• 43:59
  Jeanne: So, I mean, it made me happy.
• 44:02
  Jeanne: It really did.
• 44:03
  Jeanne: But I love what you said.
• 44:05
  Jeanne: And so thank you so much for spending time with us.
• 44:08
  Jeanne: And I know people are going to want to get in touch with you.
• 44:10
  Jeanne: So I'm going to just show the next screen here.
• 44:13
  Jeanne: Um, because there's a few things on there to wrap us up.
• 44:18
  Jeanne: One is that you gave a really great quote.
• 44:21
  Jeanne: Every disappointment is for the better.
• 44:23
  Jeanne: Can you kind of talk about that?
• 44:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's a quote that my mom used to say when I was a little kid, and something would go my way.
• 44:31
  Stephanie Sylvestre: She would um she would she would say that.
• 44:35
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, that is a very irritating quote for a little kid to hear all the time.
• 44:40
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And as I've been building my my company, that quote came back up again, and she just would keep saying every disappointment is for the better.
• 44:48
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And you know, what I did is I could just mentally shift in my thing.
• 44:53
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so now part of my sales thing is if I get a yes, I celebrate.
• 44:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: If I get a no, I celebrate because either way I have closure and I can go on to the next thing.
• 45:04
  Stephanie Sylvestre: People are like, Oh, you can come back.
• 45:05
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I was like, somebody says no, that's okay, I can just move on.
• 45:09
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm not gonna keep pestering them.
• 45:11
  Jeanne: Right.
• 45:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: If they decide that they want to change their mind, then they can come back.
• 45:15
  Stephanie Sylvestre: But that has been very important in keeping pressing forward and doubling down when people are telling me that I should be doing different things with AI, and I'm insisting that what I am doing is the right thing.
• 45:32
  Stephanie Sylvestre: The disappointment that comes with being true to your vision and your your dreams is real, it's hard and sometimes lonely.
• 45:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so reframing a disappointment as a positive thing and being on the lookout for what's the next good thing that could happen, then just puts you in a frame of mind, right, where you're always looking for the goodness that happens in life.
• 45:58
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And surprise, surprise, as as you start being on the the lookout for goodness in in your life, goodness in your life happens.
• 46:06
  Jeanne: Well, I like that quote better than the one that everybody says, when one door closes, another one opens.
• 46:12
  Jeanne: And I'm like, I hate that quote.
• 46:14
  Jeanne: I like this one.
• 46:15
  Jeanne: Every disappointment's for the better.
• 46:17
  Jeanne: So, like you said, celebrate in everything.
• 46:20
  Jeanne: I mean, it might not be what you wanted the outcome to be, but it gets you to another outcome.
• 46:26
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, absolutely, absolutely.
• 46:28
  Jeanne: I've got your contact information here and links to how to get in touch with Stephanie, but also down at the bottom, you had a call to action.
• 46:36
  Jeanne: I was gonna get you to talk about that.
• 46:39
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I'm always happy to chat with anybody.
• 46:42
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I don't need to talk about AI or talk about anything.
• 46:46
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I like meeting people, so getting to know um new people, expanding my friend garden, even though I I call it now a friend farm because the garden has gotten so big, it's acres and acres of friends.
• 47:00
  Jeanne: That's awesome.
• 47:02
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Are just there and you know, you just walk through, and it's just wonderful that you know you go to parts of the the friend garden that you haven't been in a long time and then you run it.
• 47:11
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I was like, oh, and it's like, yeah, it's still blooming.
• 47:16
  Stephanie Sylvestre: So if somebody reaches out to me on LinkedIn or emails me, I'm happy to do a half an hour of free consult about AI.
• 47:25
  Stephanie Sylvestre: I mean, the goal is to get more people to be excited about AI, to enroll in AI responsibly, ethically, and know that AI can make you feel better about yourself.
• 47:36
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Because you spent an hour with AI, you're not embarrassed that you spent an hour with AI.
• 47:41
  Stephanie Sylvestre: You would have never gone to the store and spent an hour with somebody, you would have felt, oh my god, I'm taking up this person's time.
• 47:48
  Stephanie Sylvestre: And so you don't have that luxury anymore, but with AI you have, and now you have one or two perfumes, I hope, that you've you got that you can either go to the store and check out or just buy online.
• 48:02
  Jeanne: He's actually told me to stack them because I can't get the one I want.
• 48:06
  Jeanne: So do this as the base, do this as the and spray this one for the top note.
• 48:12
  Jeanne: And I'm like, I would have never thought about that, really.
• 48:15
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Oh my god, I never thought about that.
• 48:17
  Stephanie Sylvestre: That's actually pretty cool.
• 48:18
  Jeanne: See, it was.
• 48:19
  Jeanne: I mean, I was and then he said if something else, he gave me other directions and then add this in.
• 48:24
  Jeanne: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is too fun.
• 48:27
  Jeanne: Well, anyway, I really appreciate you coming on.
• 48:30
  Jeanne: You you're making my dream come true because I'm one of these people that went home from school in middle school and high school and would watch uh well, I don't know if it was high school so much, but middle school, I would watch Captain Kirk reruns and loving that they go to the holodeck and that they wanted to talk to the computers.
• 48:49
  Jeanne: And I was you're just making my dreams come true.
• 48:52
  Jeanne: I love this.
• 48:52
  Jeanne: I love the way the world's going.
• 48:54
  Jeanne: So thank you so much, Stephanie.
• 48:57
  Stephanie Sylvestre: Thank you.
• 48:57
  Jeanne: And for those listening, I hope you join us again for another great guest next week.
• 49:02
  Jeanne: And until then, from your Admiral of the Unexpected, I wish you all smooth sailing.
• 49:08
  Jeanne: Thanks for joining me on Project Candor, where the doors are open, the stories are unexpected, and the treasure is always real.
• 49:15
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• 49:20
  Jeanne: Otherwise, I might just make you swab the deck.
• 49:24
  Jeanne: I'm Jeanne Andersen, your Admiral of the Unexpected.
• 49:27
  Jeanne: See you on the next Voyage.