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Angel In Disguise: RHOP Recap with Claudia & Dustin · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset. In
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well.
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  Speaker 2: Rain Drops.
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk about the latest episode of
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  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of Potomac. This episode is the girls
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  Speaker 1: still on their cast trip and a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: take place. The first thing first was the continuation of
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  Speaker 1: Stacy Me and Dustice Michiganders.
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  Speaker 3: System yes yes, yes, yes.
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  Speaker 4: Being grilled about whether or not she is dating Monique Samuels,
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  Speaker 4: a former Pertomac housewife husband Chris Samuel.
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  Speaker 1: So, just to recap everybody, Ashley is on ten defending
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  Speaker 1: Jaselle against you know, whether or not she has a
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  Speaker 1: new boyfriend, as she's like, look, word on the street
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  Speaker 1: is you're dating Chris Samuel's. And one thing that Stacy
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  Speaker 1: did say was that he's a great guy. He's a
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  Speaker 1: great father and look, I give.
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  Speaker 2: It Ashley a hard time. I do sometimes, but Ashley
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  Speaker 2: did her job.
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  Speaker 1: Because Ashley was asking the questions that I was asking.
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  Speaker 2: To the screen, like I know all this, like close,
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  Speaker 2: aren't you.
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  Speaker 1: Guys for you to intimate he's a good father and
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  Speaker 1: all these things. But Stacy never quite answered those questions.
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  Speaker 1: So that part was interesting to me. So, Claudia, do
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  Speaker 1: you do you believe Okay Stacy, who I love? Stacey
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  Speaker 1: has been accused since last season of bringing on this
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  Speaker 1: guy TJ as a paid actor to play the role
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  Speaker 1: of her boyfriend. Athlete is alleging that she was told
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  Speaker 1: that Stacy reached out to somebody who knows Chris to
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  Speaker 1: see if they could meet and that's how they were introduced.
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  Speaker 1: Do you believe that Stacy did that in order to
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  Speaker 1: possibly have a new storyline to bring on this new season?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it worked.
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  Speaker 6: And if you again, I look at people's body language
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  Speaker 6: and the things that they are not saying.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 6: So, first they asked her if she was first of
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  Speaker 6: the NFL player that played for the Washington Redskins. She's
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  Speaker 6: getting uncomfortable. The camera cuts her. That they great editing
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  Speaker 6: by cutting her. She's like looking uncomfortable. Then she never
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  Speaker 6: really answered about whether she hunted him down at first.
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  Speaker 6: Then she's like, he's a great father or great friend.
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  Speaker 6: How did we get here to this great father great
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  Speaker 6: friend thing? Because you did, in fact reach out via publicist. Listen, honey,
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  Speaker 6: we all do that. I've had a publicist look me
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  Speaker 6: up before with somebody that was almost on Housewives with me,
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  Speaker 6: but it didn't happen. Wait, but after I met we
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  Speaker 6: were you didn't meet him, but he was.
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  Speaker 5: It was in the NBA, And.
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  Speaker 6: I'm so glad no one can ever put us together
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  Speaker 6: and attach us now because I'd have been embarrassed at
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  Speaker 6: the end.
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  Speaker 2: He is, he's still in the NBA.
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  Speaker 6: No, but when we were in Atlanta, his little tfo
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  Speaker 6: y'all investigators wanted to look whatever. Me and him were
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  Speaker 6: involved in a five car pile up accident right when
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  Speaker 6: he was trying to go back, and we had to
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  Speaker 6: keep it on the low because it didn't want him,
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  Speaker 6: didn't he wanted to affect him getting his next another contract.
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  Speaker 6: So we all and like people grow by the accident
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  Speaker 6: scene where I think we're on eighty five eighty one
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  Speaker 6: of those freeways and we got rear ended and four
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  Speaker 6: of the cars hit us. I had really bad whiplash
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  Speaker 6: and we were in the car together, so we had
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  Speaker 6: to keep that.
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  Speaker 5: On the lo Lo lo lo Low. I'm giving you
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  Speaker 5: all crazy tea. I got to put this in my book.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Anyways, that was a publicist that reached out to me
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  Speaker 6: and said I have someone I want you to meet,
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  Speaker 6: and I was like, I don't know because.
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  Speaker 5: I see she's like no, no, no no.
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  Speaker 6: And then he took a private jet to meet me
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  Speaker 6: from our first date to an island that I was
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  Speaker 6: at working. So I'll tell you about it later on
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  Speaker 6: who it was, but I'm definitely not putting out there
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  Speaker 6: now because I do not. So that was so when
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  Speaker 6: I at the end of my season seven, they were
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  Speaker 6: like asking me about the next season, and they MEMBERINI
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  Speaker 6: made a big campaign about people need to stop showing
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  Speaker 6: who they're in a relationship with.
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  Speaker 5: So I had the call with Lauren and them.
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  Speaker 6: They were like, we can't imagine you not coming back
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  Speaker 6: season and they were like, we need to talk to
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  Speaker 6: your love for interest.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, well, it's too soon.
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  Speaker 6: We've only been dating for like a couple of months.
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  Speaker 6: So I got him to be on the phone with
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  Speaker 6: the production. They you didn't know this.
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  Speaker 5: They spoke for an.
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  Speaker 1: Remember I left after season seven and I was working
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  Speaker 1: another show that they called him back season eight.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So they had talked to him on the phone
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  Speaker 6: for an hour and he was like yes, an hour.
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  Speaker 6: They were so excited they would have an NBA Bravo
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  Speaker 6: collect like it would have been huge because at the
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  Speaker 6: time he was still mhm and he is famous like
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  Speaker 6: trust and belief, like y'all people will gag. And I
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  Speaker 6: had people like to say, I can't.
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  Speaker 5: Get a man. I don't have a man.
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  Speaker 6: I'm very very good at keeping my shoes like quiet,
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  Speaker 6: like I got married without people knowing, like you know
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  Speaker 6: what I mean. So please with me with the I
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  Speaker 6: can't get it. And when I do get a man,
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  Speaker 6: he's going to be of stature. It's going to be
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  Speaker 6: a leader. It's going to be or someone that's got
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  Speaker 6: stuff going on. I don't just go get with I'm
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  Speaker 6: not just gonna with the local whatever you know. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: like it's not happening. I have a certain kind of
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  Speaker 6: guy that attracts me and turns me on. So anyways,
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  Speaker 6: I say all that to say this. Publicists are the
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  Speaker 6: middle person all the time, the middle person all the
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  Speaker 6: time where they'll reach out and put a feeler out
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  Speaker 6: to see so you don't look like you're not on
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  Speaker 6: blast like on social media.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 6: So it's sick and it's a yeah. So I do
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  Speaker 6: believe she did that. Not mad at these stacy, I think,
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  Speaker 6: you know, but it was crazy to pick someone so
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  Speaker 6: close to home. But then she went on to like
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  Speaker 6: sing this man's praises that someone that's been talking to him.
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  Speaker 6: So you may not have answered the question of did
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  Speaker 6: you go reach out, but you did answer it with
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  Speaker 6: your non answer, because then she was graving about how
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  Speaker 6: great of a man. That's like if you ask me, oh,
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  Speaker 6: how do you know? I mean, do you know this person?
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, I didn't really know, but then.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't reach out to him.
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  Speaker 6: But then you have all these great personal things to
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  Speaker 6: say about them because you know him.
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  Speaker 5: As she did her job, and I'm here for.
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  Speaker 2: I did a great job. And Claudia is right.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: Jennifer Aniston and Brad Pitt when they were married, they
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  Speaker 1: did talk about how their publicists hooked them up together
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  Speaker 1: and said, I think you guys shouldn't meet. So it
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  Speaker 1: is something that goes on in Hollywood, and look, the
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  Speaker 1: thing with Stacey, it's another sort of Hollywood accusation that's
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  Speaker 1: on her reputation in terms of Look, she was accused
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  Speaker 1: of hiring TJ to be her boyfriend. These are things
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  Speaker 1: that TJ said, and now she's been accused of being
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  Speaker 1: set up by publicists to date Chris Samuel's.
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  Speaker 2: Which is very interesting.
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  Speaker 3: That's some of your thoughts on that.
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  Speaker 7: My thoughts are that Stacey Rush's addition to the Real
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  Speaker 7: Housewives of Potomac has changed that show forever.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it is similar for sure.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that it's similar because it changed the texture,
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  Speaker 7: It changed the fabric of the show, right. I think
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  Speaker 7: that it was similar to the impact that Kenya and
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  Speaker 7: Portia made when they joined Atlanta in season five. That
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  Speaker 7: show was never the same again, never it was. It
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  Speaker 7: always felt different. This season feels different. Last season felt different.
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  Speaker 7: In the new we were all saying how new and
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  Speaker 7: fresh and fun the show felt, and we couldn't understand
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  Speaker 7: why because Mea was still there. Right this season, me
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  Speaker 7: is gone, We're able to kind of we're able to
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  Speaker 7: really feel the personalities in the group and really see
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  Speaker 7: the me that was just for fun, pray, we're just
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  Speaker 7: fucking with you mea congratulations, but it just feels different.
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  Speaker 3: She changed the tone.
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  Speaker 7: Stacey's one of those rare birds that does not have
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  Speaker 7: to uh seek fame from her performance during combat and
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  Speaker 7: argument confrontation, right, she has a personality.
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  Speaker 3: Everything she fucking does is funny.
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  Speaker 7: When she was in her Confessionals this week singing that
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  Speaker 7: song talking about dancing, and she was like, oh, I
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  Speaker 7: snortedn't and she was laughing into the camera that you
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  Speaker 7: can't buy that.
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  Speaker 3: That's natural personality.
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  Speaker 7: So much of her personality is so infectious that people,
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  Speaker 7: now that she has won the hearts of the fans
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  Speaker 7: of the Real Housewives of Potomac, they have gone back
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  Speaker 7: into the archives of her content from QVC when she
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  Speaker 7: was a host on QBC. There is a Twitter account
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  Speaker 7: dedicated to clips from her QBC days where they take
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  Speaker 7: just short clips ten seconds maybe thirty second clips of
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  Speaker 7: her describing items on QVC in a very robust way, okay,
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  Speaker 7: and they clip them down and they have populated an
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  Speaker 7: entire Twitter page full of that.
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  Speaker 3: So Stacey changed the show. I love it. Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 7: She went out to dinner and schmoozed up next to
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  Speaker 7: Chris Samuels to have to bring some value, some spice
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  Speaker 7: to this show, and it worked.
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  Speaker 3: It also, it works so.
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  Speaker 7: Damn good Monique coming back about that, you know what
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  Speaker 7: I'm saying, Stacy's impact once again, Monique got a job
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  Speaker 7: from that.
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  Speaker 3: So this is great, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 7: And I think that she handles herself well when when
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  Speaker 7: Giselle and especially Astley, because Ashley throws things at people
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  Speaker 7: figuratively speaking, of course, she throws things at the other
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  Speaker 7: cast members in a much more nasty, you know, sharp
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  Speaker 7: edged way, like actually a smile at you and call
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  Speaker 7: you a whore so fast. You know what I'm saying, Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: well you were. She does that all the time, and
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  Speaker 7: she did that, she tried to do that to Stacy,
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  Speaker 7: and Stacey turned that right back on. She said, let
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  Speaker 7: me clear this up for you right now. I'm back
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  Speaker 7: with my husband. She put that ring up so fast.
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  Speaker 7: Everything actually said was out the window.
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  Speaker 5: I listen.
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  Speaker 6: I know people gave her Stacy all a hard time beginning,
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  Speaker 6: including us, and she's fun.
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  Speaker 5: And I like like her.
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  Speaker 6: When I was watching the show, and I did watch
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  Speaker 6: the whole thing, and I even went back and worked
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  Speaker 6: some of the last time. Last week again, I was like,
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  Speaker 6: the way she doesn't get she's gonna win because she
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  Speaker 6: doesn't get emotionally, like emotionally when they be coming for her,
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  Speaker 6: even when it's five against one, four against one.
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  Speaker 5: She's like in her own.
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  Speaker 6: Little kind of poo through world and that makes it good,
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  Speaker 6: Like she doesn't like someone like KK.
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  Speaker 5: Who is I gotta just say this about this lady.
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  Speaker 5: I want to just make a point.
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  Speaker 6: She is dropped out gorgeous, her body, her face, she
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  Speaker 6: looks really good. She's a beautiful girl, like she really is.
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  Speaker 6: But I feel it with her. She closed. She's sensitive,
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  Speaker 6: but every little thing and she cocks everything and she
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  Speaker 6: like lets you know she notices every little thing.
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  Speaker 5: She don't let none of it go right.
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  Speaker 6: Which I'm kind of like that too, Like you ain't
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  Speaker 6: about to get that way of getting no shots off
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  Speaker 6: on me. Stacy is the polar opicer of that where
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  Speaker 6: people been throwing darts at her. She's just whether she's
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  Speaker 6: affected or not, she don't let nobody know that she is.
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  Speaker 6: It doesn't seem like, it doesn't seem like it gets through.
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  Speaker 6: And I will say this about the girls this episode.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone was working overtime being me and girls. There was
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  Speaker 6: so many comments being flung. I was like, god damn,
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  Speaker 6: like they was. It was so many little passive, aggressive
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  Speaker 6: and aggressive little jabs that everyone was thrown at each other.
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  Speaker 5: Now that's either good TV to you or you're like,
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  Speaker 5: god damn.
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  Speaker 6: Like the whole time it was like someone was getting
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  Speaker 6: shot thrown every single scene. There was not one scene
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  Speaker 6: where a jab of sub was not being thrown. And
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  Speaker 6: it's a little exhausting. I don't want every episode to
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  Speaker 6: be like that because it makes it where a read
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  Speaker 6: is not even a read anymore. It's like, uh whatever.
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  Speaker 6: But when every single scene is you trying to jab someone,
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  Speaker 6: everyone was getting in on everyone was doing it.
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  Speaker 5: It was a lot. I thought it was person that
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  Speaker 5: it was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: No, we talked about that and last week was was
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  Speaker 1: way too much for me. I still enjoyed the episode,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought it was too much of that antagonistic
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  Speaker 1: personality that I thought that everyone adapted to.
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  Speaker 2: And the these.
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  Speaker 1: Shows work when you have out of seven housewives, one
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  Speaker 1: or two who is the antagonist, and you can't you
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  Speaker 1: can't have seven, it's it's not the right show to
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  Speaker 1: be on. And it's the reason why I agree with
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  Speaker 1: the two of you when it comes to Stacy, because
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  Speaker 1: Stacey is aloof and and and she's the moment I
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  Speaker 1: knew Stacy had the I and the tea is when
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  Speaker 1: they talked about her breath and her response was, well,
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  Speaker 1: have be a break.
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  Speaker 2: If the read is my breaths think that they have
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  Speaker 2: me a breath man.
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  Speaker 1: And they had nothing to say after that. And that's
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  Speaker 1: why when you look at her in this episode, even
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  Speaker 1: being approached about Chris and how everybody at the table
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  Speaker 1: had this this on camera reaction, it was it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: this is how I felt.
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  Speaker 2: I felt it fell flat to me. I feel that
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  Speaker 2: the Chris Samuel's ever all required all of that.
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  Speaker 1: And I do think if I had listen, I'm enjoying
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  Speaker 1: this season, but Claudia brought up something and I want
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  Speaker 1: to just add some some context to it, especially when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to KK and especial when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: what Jessa said about Stacey adding this different texture to Potomac.
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  Speaker 2: What I will say is this, not every housewife has
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  Speaker 2: to play up their personality. You do know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: We know that Astley the ship starter like that, that's
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  Speaker 1: who she's been since day one.
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  Speaker 2: We know that Gizelle's a force multiplier who is the attagonists.
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  Speaker 2: We know that who she is. We knew that Karen
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  Speaker 2: is the one that don't.
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  Speaker 8: Start now like we will have fun, but the moment
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  Speaker 8: you clock me, I'm gonna call you a ditsy bitch,
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to talk to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, like that's that's proverb on his Twitter.
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  Speaker 3: That's right, So.
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  Speaker 2: I will say.
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  Speaker 1: What's interesting is I do feel like everybody is trying
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  Speaker 1: to show up as the force multiplier and it only
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  Speaker 1: works when you have one or two.
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  Speaker 2: And I think, look, let that be just zelling Ashley's job,
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  Speaker 2: like that's that's their job.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want anybody else to feel the need to
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  Speaker 1: play that role because Stacy's winning to the sheer fact
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  Speaker 1: that Stacey is doing the opposite of what we expect
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  Speaker 1: from a housewife, and that's a good thing.
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  Speaker 6: It feels like everyone's acting like they're all on notice
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  Speaker 6: to not keep their flute the glass. It feels like
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  Speaker 6: everyone's trying to are to like I'm gonna make sure
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  Speaker 6: I'm still a housewife, and I'm like, yeah, y'all are established.
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  Speaker 5: You don't have to do all that. Like every single.
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  Speaker 6: Episode, some episodes too chun some episodes like Damn, You're
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  Speaker 6: on ten all the time, and.
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  Speaker 5: And I didn't like how it seems like they have
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  Speaker 5: like a.
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  Speaker 6: A pack, like a wolf pack mentality on these shows,
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  Speaker 6: where in the beginning, we're all gonna hate Stacy. Okay,
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  Speaker 6: let's all attack Stacey. Now it's like we're all gonna
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  Speaker 6: get on Angel. And then I feel like she's it's
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  Speaker 6: hurt her now and it kind of gives like she's
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  Speaker 6: a newbie. She has let's skin in the game. She's
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  Speaker 6: coming off having a baby. She's not feeling good about
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  Speaker 6: her body right now. She's she's like not in her
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  Speaker 6: normal weight. It's kind of like easy, kind of like
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, it's punching down a little bit, you
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  Speaker 6: know what I mean. I kind of felt bad for
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  Speaker 6: her this episode when she started crying and then they
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  Speaker 6: showed a picture of her and she said, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 6: I used to be a red carpet correspondent and a
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  Speaker 6: lot of my identity came from my looks, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: not there right now.
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  Speaker 5: Like she knows, she's not feeling good about us.
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  Speaker 6: I also, that's the first time in me think you know,
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  Speaker 6: how we were thinking like we were talking about how
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  Speaker 6: she's having a hard time because she's watching it as
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  Speaker 6: a fan. I think she's watching it as a fan,
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  Speaker 6: and she's also watching it as someone that everyone else
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  Speaker 6: is feeling her like they're flawless, they're snatched, they're skinny.
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  Speaker 6: She's not feeling one hundred percent right now. And you're
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  Speaker 6: coming into the mix new with these girls, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like that's gonna make you feel uncomfortable and not feel
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: like you're regular.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: You're gonna be off.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I actually it's funny brought that up, Claudia. I actually
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: agreed with you on this too because I didn't see it,
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: but you are allowing me to see something different.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: Because one thing I always say to people is I'm
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: not a woman, you know, like because.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I'm a gay man, I'm felinine, I'm not a woman.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I will never sit up here and try to ever
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: understand there feels to.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Be a woman. I don't have that ability. So me
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: being very honest, when I saw.
• 17:45
  Speaker 9: The scene of Stacy crying and she told just Gil
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: she thought she was being body shamed, I as a man, right,
• 17:55
  Speaker 9: it didn't make sense to me because I'm like, no.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: They're clocking your faith too. Not being body shame. You're
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: being face to shame, you know, like you're being filtered shame.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I didn't get it. I didn't understand it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: And then Claudia, Claudia actually says something that I'm now saying.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'm having the aha moment.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I now understand that this woman because I think Angels
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: beautiful by the way, that's why they did it.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, listen, I'm a man. I don't see
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with her body. But again, I'm not I'm
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: not her.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: She definitely has the baby weight, like I'm gonna keep
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: it a bug. She's definitely overweight from what she's used to.
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: When they flashed back, she was stint in. The face
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: she had back then was closer to the filter face,
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: So I get it, Like, listen, the filter face, well
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: be that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 8: I mean, look, I'm gonna sit this one now because
• 18:51
  Speaker 8: I don't know.
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: She's not feeling good about herself, so she's gonna filter
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: the hell out of them pictures. The face is gonna
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: be different, the body gonna be diff and she's gonna
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: sit there and say no, it's not because in her
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: mind that she wants to look at she used to look,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: she don't look like that right now?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: She doesn't, and she doesn't I have.
• 19:08
  Speaker 7: The utmost sensitivity, like I have the utmost respect, grace
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: and sensitivity for her as a new mother.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 19:15
  Speaker 7: I'm like, much like what you said, Carlos, to echo
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: your sentiment, I don't think it's our place to be
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: common and body shame in women. It's y'all know. I
• 19:22
  Speaker 7: don't even give it up like that with my can
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: That ain't what I do. What I will highlight is
• 19:28
  Speaker 7: the difference between I feel like we saw again the
• 19:31
  Speaker 7: theme of two faces keeps coming up here right with Angel, Right,
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: there was a totally different Angel in scene with the
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: other cast members than the Angel we get in her confessionals. Right, Yep,
• 19:46
  Speaker 7: she is talking cast shit about these other women in
• 19:49
  Speaker 7: her confessionals. She's talking about the way they look. She's
• 19:53
  Speaker 7: talking about the things that they have or don't have.
• 19:56
  Speaker 7: She's making slick Joe low key slick references about people's
• 20:04
  Speaker 7: financial status. Is husband's jobs.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: All operable operating table?
• 20:09
  Speaker 7: Ever even think of so like seeing her cry and
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: beat and feel so feel body shamed, which I'm sensitive
• 20:16
  Speaker 7: to that because I don't think it's cool never to
• 20:18
  Speaker 7: punch down, like we talked about earlier.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I punch up.
• 20:21
  Speaker 7: I'll say the worst shit in the world about you,
• 20:23
  Speaker 7: but I'm never gonna punch it down with it, you
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So I didn't like seeing her cry,
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: but then it felt like, if you could dish it,
• 20:30
  Speaker 7: take it. I'm just gonna put it like that. If
• 20:32
  Speaker 7: you can dish it, you need to be able to
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: take it. Tough en up while you're crying in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 7: scenes and then popping it in your confessionals.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Let's get back into the show.
• 20:46
  Speaker 6: She's uncomfortable, she's out of re leave with these girls. Also,
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: she also lied. This is something I forgot the clock
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: last week and bring it up when she said that
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: when they got to the airport that nobody greeted her.
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: I went back and looked at that. I reround it
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: four times and Wendy hugged her, and she got hugged
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: by like a couple of people. So go back and
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: watch it right on that part in the show when
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: she says nobody said hello to her or greet her
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: at the airport. They showed it in a flashback where
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: they did, and I'm like, I kind of feel like
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: she's she's digging a hole for herself, Like I want
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: to be empathetic to her, Like I do feel like
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: there's a real thing there about she's not feeling good
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: about herself. So she's she's definitely not on point right
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: now with where she's thinking.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: She's not thinking straight.
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: She's saying one thing and being the big bat wolf
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: for confessionals. But then in the scene, in the moment,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: she's not stand up because she's uncomfortable. She's intimidated by
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: these women. She's one hundred percent intimidated by these women.
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: That's what it feels like to me.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: So then when you're in the safety of your confessional,
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: you pop off and you talk to shit, but you're
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: not able to be that same person and do it
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: in the scene.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: So I mean, but no, Dustin, I mean, I'll say this.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: That I want to have her doesn't Obviously, I actually
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have a better understanding of Angel based on what Claudia
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is saying, because to me, it does track because and
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: the reason why I tracked to me it is only
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: because she said body shame and and and again. As
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I was watching it, I was like, that's not fair
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: to Dezel to say that because it's Zilla, come on
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: your body, but that Claudia is highlighting that, Look, this
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: woman doesn't feel right altogether, but primarily her body that
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: isn't what's used to because I'm now thinking this, this
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: woman has watched the show and wanted to be on
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: this show for a minute.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say how many years.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: So knowledge was thinner toot to say that the moment
• 22:43
  Speaker 10: you got cast to be on the show, you're probably like, no, yes,
• 22:48
  Speaker 10: so to go in because.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: When she was crying, where's is coming from? But now
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: I now see it because again when I Farlow's King,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: look at Angel, I think she is so beautiful. I
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: love the fact that she's Kirby. I'm really big on
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: women on these shows. Like I said before about Bell Collective,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: I have a very Kirby casts and all have different
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: body shapes and all of them right, but I love
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: seeing that representation on these shows.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And I thought, like, kudos.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: To produce of the network to cast as beautiful Kirby woman.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Now, but now that with Claudia is saying.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not like, oh I didn't I didn't know that
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: there's there's a possibility that Angel post birth doesn't.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Feel like herself. And when they clocked.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Her face pune, she intern, Oh my god, they clocked
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: the one thing I was insecure about, and that's everything.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: So I now understand Angel.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: I agree. Also, I'm sorry, go ahead.
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: I talked a lot ahead.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: No, but this this women ship, so I feel like
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you need to get you. You know what I'm saying.
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: You need to get to my memory pre metopause.
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: When I moved to When I moved to Dallas from LA,
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: I was like one hundred and forty five pounds.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: I was like very out of twenty six inch waist.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: My waist is small, B.
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: Size boobs whatever, like I was like model sin right.
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: But even in La, I thought I was big because
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: that's in LA that's like almost thick.
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: I moved to Dallas. I got to relax. I'm on
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: the radio.
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: We're eating grits at six o'clock in the morning, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: like brisket because everyone's advertising at barbecue. So I gained
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: thirty pounds very very quickly. Now it maybe go from
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: a B to a D cup. Naturally, everybody thought I
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: had a boo job I didn't realize how much weight
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: I gained because I'm still thinking, oh, I'm still thinking
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: I'm looked the way I did in La. I remember
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: someone came to my radio station and it was someone
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: from La and they were walking behind me and they
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: were like, damn, you got big out here, and I
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: was like oh. And then I never felt good after that,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: Like I had been trying to chase it since. And
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: I've been on OZAMPI like five times. I ran seven
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: miles a day, droning the pandemic. Like and no matter
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: what people would say, You're beautiful, Claudia, beautiful, but I
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: didn't feel beautiful. I did not feel the way I was.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: I look, I post do he backs all the time.
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: She's probably looking at her old reels, her old footage,
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: or when she felt that she was at her best.
• 25:20
  Speaker 6: I know I was doing that all the time, like
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: I gotta get back, and until I get back, I'm
• 25:24
  Speaker 6: not worthy. I don't feel good about who I am.
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: This is like you you think this is cute. You
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: should have seen me back then. And it took a
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: long time to get comfortable with the extra weight, you
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: know what I mean. And that's a bit And then
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: she's also probably dealing with the you know, I don't
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: know if she has she had postpartum or any of
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: that stuff, but you do have from what I hear,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: a big emotional like you're dropping the hormones and then
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: all this stuff. I just don't think she's a happy
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: person about herself in general. She does have a good
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: husband from what we know, because she makes little jabs
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: that she's nice, but then she says some mean girl shit.
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: Sometimes definitely yes, she's like, oh, you know he's a starter.
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: Oh he gave me five thousands. She's trying really hard
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: to be like, I'm here too, I'm one of y'all too,
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: I'm good enough too. And she's doing it with little
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: microaggressions that it tells me all I need to know.
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: She's not feeling good about herself for now, so where
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: she can't get a jab in like I got a ring,
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: you don't.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: I have a husband, and my husband husband don't.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: Play about me.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: He's about to send the jet And I say, angel I, look, baby, she's.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Over compensated good about herself. That's a woman. And I listen,
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: I read, we all read people for a living. Yeah,
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: and she's not going to ever say it.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: She can't say it to those girls because that's not
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: the space to feel vulnerable. You can't because everything will
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: be used.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: To get the space receive that.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: But you know, but I want to hear from you too,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: because you know, outside of that, Stacey, Stacey, we.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Love you, always, mind, forever in our hearts. Yeah.
• 26:54
  Speaker 7: No.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But the thing with Angel that I will say justice
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: on point as well as the fact that Angel, I
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: need to know which one you're gonna be. If you're
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: gonna be the me and girl, I'm here for you, sister.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: If you're gonna be the passive girl, I'm here for
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: that too. If you're a lady sound by queen. Okay, baby,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: live it up. But we gotta pick a Lane's sister.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So when she is having these conversations and she is
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: saying things like the five thousand dollars, my husband will
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: play about me. He listen to private Jeff of me girl,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: And then we do see her having a good time
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: at Wendy's party. But the moment she spoke the kk
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a kk was a wet blanket. You know, her aptitude
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: did change.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: So I am confused about who is Angel Now.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I will say that today, even today, Claudia has to
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: tell me understand her a lot more.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: So, thank you, Claudia.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: I'm still wondering, like, Okay, well, all that being said,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we get to know the real Angel
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: because I don't feel like this episode even helped me
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: know her either, because she does appear to be two
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: faced dustin.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: She don't keep the same energy.
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: And while I'm giving her grace and and that's just
• 28:19
  Speaker 7: how I live my life, that's the way the person
• 28:22
  Speaker 7: I am.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, gizelling them don't.
• 28:24
  Speaker 7: Owe her shit for whatever issues she's going through or
• 28:27
  Speaker 7: image issues or whatever. That's not their responsibility to manage
• 28:32
  Speaker 7: that even handle her with care for that they're not
• 28:34
  Speaker 7: required to, especially in an environment like an ensemble cast
• 28:38
  Speaker 7: reality show that you know, involves a lot of conflict.
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: People are gonna mention things that may make you uncomfortable.
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: They're gonna say shit that you won't like, and so
• 28:49
  Speaker 7: the the the entitlement. You know what I'm saying that
• 28:54
  Speaker 7: that people should give her some sort of grace when
• 28:57
  Speaker 7: she hasn't given anybody any when it comes to her
• 29:01
  Speaker 7: takes her opinions the way that She's chosen to answer
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: questions laughing to.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Message certain things. You know what I'm saying, It just
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: is what it is.
• 29:12
  Speaker 7: So Angel, I think is trying, whereas Stacy is effortless.
• 29:17
  Speaker 7: And I think that's the difference, right, because while we
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: do like Stacy for having an opposite or an unexpected
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: reaction to some of the antics of her cast members,
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: we don't like her just because she's doing something unexpected.
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: We like her because it's natural. You can get into
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: the space of trying to be contrarian just for the
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: sake of and you end up like a Marlowe Hampton
• 29:39
  Speaker 7: who we loved for many, many years. But once Marlowe
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: was given the floor and she started, she had the
• 29:44
  Speaker 7: opportunity to make decisions.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. That messaged certain things through
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: her behavior.
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: It wasn't making sense if you would anticipated person going left,
• 29:56
  Speaker 7: Marlowe was gonna go right no matter what.
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: That's not a winning stre either.
• 30:01
  Speaker 7: I think authenticity here is the most important element that
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: people need to consider.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Especially to THEMN Housewife.
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: So Angel, get in there, say what's on your mind,
• 30:12
  Speaker 7: but call it exactly what it is. You know what
• 30:15
  Speaker 7: I'm saying, Go in there. Look, I feel like shit today, ladies.
• 30:18
  Speaker 7: I don't like the wy that I look. And ever
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: since I had my kid, you know, it's been tough
• 30:22
  Speaker 7: for me to like feel good about the thy that
• 30:24
  Speaker 7: I look. So that being said, I got a short fuse.
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Don't fucking piss me off, you know what I'm saying,
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: and just lea with it. So then they are disarmed,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, And you can go ahead
• 30:37
  Speaker 7: and exist. The putting on is what's getting annoying with
• 30:40
  Speaker 7: Angel on.
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: This very well said, and yeah, being self deprecating if
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: you can't, that will help. But like you're above it all, y'all.
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: My husband, we rich, we got this, we got that.
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: And then the next day you crying. I didn't like
• 30:55
  Speaker 6: to switch up with when KK went to go lay down,
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: and then when she was gone, Angel had a blest
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: with the other girls, and then the next day she
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: was mad again. And it's like, I'm not saying she's
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: by polar but that's what it's gonna give to the
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: people there, like damn, like we don't know, so it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: gonna she's making it. These are self inflected injuries. You're
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: making it harder for the women to actually embrace you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 6: And these people are very smart, very bright day clocket,
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: so they're gonna like not have too much patience, Like
• 31:21
  Speaker 6: you're only gonna get a couple of times doing this
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: where they're gonna kind of like they're gonna be like
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: done with you, and you're gonna be the forever villain
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: where they're all gonna be there's always someone that they
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: want to gang up on and don't let it be you.
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: It was Stacey, now, it's you.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: It's you now.
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: And I was rooting for for for Angel, but makes it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Harder when she does stuff like that. I didn't get
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: why she like she.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: May progress with the ladies and then went backwards when
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: she's around her front. I don't know why she's doing
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: that or why she's playing for her girl so hard.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where and
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: this is just me knowing my history producing these shows
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: that when a current reality star or in this case,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: housewife bring you on the show and you get the
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: housewife title, it's like this allegiance, you know, like I'm
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: brought to this motherfucker like be loyal to me. And
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: I am wondering if that's if this blind loyalty is
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: what Angel has to KK.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: I really want. I mean, the see is already filmed.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Ak's gonna have a very, very, very tough reunion based
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: on this season. Dustin is right when it comes to
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: how people were really advocating for Marlowe to get a peach,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people felt that, but Marlowe got
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: the peach.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: That Marlowe wasn't who they thought.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: She would be as a peach holder, right, And marlow
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: has said her own reasons as to why that didn't
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: happen in her regrets, and she's been very vocal about that.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I do wonder if Jazzy, looking at this season, has
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: those same regrets, because you know we'll get towards the end,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: but Jazz is having a tough time.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not Jazzy.
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: KK is having a tough time because KK really is
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: coming across like she's not having fun. Everything annoys her
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: and that's not the KK we fell in love with.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: But before I get to the end, I do want
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: to get into the ladies talking about Giselle having a boyfriend,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: because what.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: Brezielle does well that I'm not mad at personally is
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: the fact that.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: She gives a lot to this show in terms of
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: making sure shit happens, because without her, I don't know
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: what will happened. But she does skate off easy when
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: comes to her relationships. So I love the fact that
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: this episode all the ladies were like, no, we're gonna
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: talk about this man. And to Claudia's point, vulnerability will
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: always make you likable.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I thought Gizill looked so likable blushing over.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: This guy she's dating, because we need some sort of
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: balance and to see her smile and get coy like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that's what we all do when we're meeting somebody we
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: either are falling in love with or we're dating, And
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I thought it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: Was sweet to kind of see that side of her.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: But I want to ask you guys this, how did
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: y'all feel when Wendy.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Said, like, you know, because I consider you a friend,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: I think we're friends. And people are saying that Wendy
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: got what she wanted, which is the friendship of Jazel.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: Is that something you believe Dustin?
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Yep? Well, do I believe she wanted a friendship with Giselle? Yes?
• 34:48
  Speaker 7: Do I believe she got a friendship with Giselle? No,
• 34:51
  Speaker 7: Zil don't like no, damn Wendy Gizelle. They never liked Wendy.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: Gizelle used Wendy in season five because they was all
• 34:57
  Speaker 7: pissed at money. They couldn't stand mony they had been
• 35:00
  Speaker 7: on her going and so once the fight shit happened
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: and Wendy clamoring for the adoration of the people who
• 35:08
  Speaker 7: she deemed were heavy hitters on this cast, she ran
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: right over there, licking up, ran behind them and shit
• 35:15
  Speaker 7: sharing their views until they turned on her the very
• 35:18
  Speaker 7: next season because she was inconsequential to them right and
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: miscellaneous to them, So they decided, hey, let's have some
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: fun with her this season. Who were around some shit
• 35:29
  Speaker 7: from the blogs or whatever?
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Worked like a charm. She bit the bait like a fish.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: With whatever on the hook. Worm the worm on the hook.
• 35:37
  Speaker 7: Thank you friend, And you know that happened with Wendy.
• 35:42
  Speaker 7: The jig ben up. You've always wanted to be friends
• 35:46
  Speaker 7: with Robin and Giselle specifically. You ain't really care about
• 35:50
  Speaker 7: nobody else, but you felt like those were the most
• 35:52
  Speaker 7: powerful women on the cast, and you want their approval,
• 35:55
  Speaker 7: and you wanted their friendship and their camaraderie on the cast.
• 35:59
  Speaker 7: This was a example of Wendy, she just stopped the game,
• 36:03
  Speaker 7: that charade that she had been playing.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: Since season what season was that six?
• 36:07
  Speaker 7: Since season six, she's been playing a game with Giselle
• 36:11
  Speaker 7: as far as their relationship is concerned.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: You know, damn well, Giselle Brian does.
• 36:17
  Speaker 7: Not consider Wendy yourself or a friend before all this
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: legal shit.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, the gloves are off.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: Now you see how her and Robin just talked about
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: this shit so casually on Reasonably Shady. Go check out
• 36:30
  Speaker 7: their podcast episode when they discussed Wendy and Eddie's charges.
• 36:33
  Speaker 7: Wendy and Zel ain't never been friends, and that's why
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: that shit went down the way it did on the show. No,
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: and that's what you get, honestly, Wendy always russishing to
• 36:42
  Speaker 7: kiss somebody's behind on the show, try.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: To get approval. That's what happened.
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: Now. That's one thing, Wendy. I think she looks gorgeous.
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: She looked gorgeous this episode. And she had on the
• 36:52
  Speaker 7: red flowing shit out there on the sand. She looked gorgeous,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: legs all up in the air. She looked beautiful, you
• 36:57
  Speaker 7: know what I mean. But this is where she pisses
• 37:01
  Speaker 7: me off. It took me right back to season five
• 37:05
  Speaker 7: when she was sitting in Karen's house okay, and when
• 37:08
  Speaker 7: they were confronting Monique after that physical education with her
• 37:11
  Speaker 7: and Candice and Wendy had that black leather jacket and
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: you don't.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Have it and that is why she was doing all
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 37:22
  Speaker 7: It took me right back there to her kissing Jaselle's ass.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: I did not like that scene.
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Wow, that an't really be added to that. I'll just
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: say did on my friend.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, and I again you I haven't watched the.
• 37:39
  Speaker 6: Podcast reasonably shady yet, but that says at all. I
• 37:42
  Speaker 6: was gonna say, just wait till Wendy comes back. Well
• 37:46
  Speaker 6: the next season, and you'll see how much of a
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: friend they are. Because if you think people are gonna
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: be able to resist the earth to use that as
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: a reader, that's gonna be all we gonna hear about
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: next season.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: That's it.
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: Hide your bags they gonna be. It's gonna be vicious.
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: You think this year was a little a lot of
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: little jabs, wait till next season if Wendy comes back,
• 38:08
  Speaker 6: because I don't.
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: Know, listen, you know you got correct or something.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: We're going that's so Claudia you know, justin half of
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: her story. Again, So Wendey wore a black I don't
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: have a leather jacket.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: When you wore a black leather jacket and had office
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: shoulder like this Partia?
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Wow, Yes she did.
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: She did.
• 38:34
  Speaker 7: And it took me right back to that same And
• 38:37
  Speaker 7: it was in the energy, Claudia of her wanting to
• 38:39
  Speaker 7: be in the group in the end crowd with the
• 38:42
  Speaker 7: click down with the crew.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That's what it was. And
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: she was so.
• 38:49
  Speaker 7: She was so confidently casting judgment upon mor Nique, and
• 38:54
  Speaker 7: it was pissing me off.
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: So it was like she thinks, as long as she's
• 38:57
  Speaker 6: with the girls over here, she don't care, like she
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: can be mean to the other girl.
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: With the big dogs up here.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Is it like that?
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm glad I was never like that. I never
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: gave a.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: Fuck who liked me, friend, Yeah, never care, not afraid.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: I don't care if you're a head bitch, a second bitch,
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: third bitch.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: I do not care.
• 39:19
  Speaker 6: I'm staying on what I think. It could be a
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: thousand y'all against me over here, and that's it. I'm
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: standing on my business. I'm not a fan of nobody
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: on these shows. So that's how you you know, you
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: go in there and be a fan white of your
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: cast members, you will be all him and and Han
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: and going along with ship that you don't really your
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: core doesn't really go with because you want to approval
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: and that makes a harder time for you. Not saying
• 39:41
  Speaker 6: she's doing that, but I'm just saying reality stars in general, Angel,
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: lessen to you, like stand on your own thing, like
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: be who you are one hundred percent of the time.
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: Because I'm rooting for her, but we it's it's it's it's.
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: A turnoff when you Rarahu and you're confessionals and then
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: you ra with then you tail between the legs when
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: she's it's you gotta pick which one, mama, because it's
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: going to confuse the audience on who you are.
• 40:06
  Speaker 7: And they really gonna get her ass too at the reunion,
• 40:08
  Speaker 7: and by her as I mean Angel, because at this point,
• 40:11
  Speaker 7: you know, we're watching what they've already recorded.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: They haven't had a chance to confront her about the ship.
• 40:17
  Speaker 7: She's talked to them confessionals yet, so they gonna tear
• 40:19
  Speaker 7: her ass up at that reunion. I'm sure she's gonna
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: have a tough time. My girl k is gonna have
• 40:24
  Speaker 7: a tough time. Unfortunately, we know Wendy gonna have the
• 40:28
  Speaker 7: time of all times at the reunion there.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: If I hope she's there, I really hope she's there.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I definitely see her being there for sure. She listened, Claudia.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: She's been promoting the show every Sunday.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: She promoted it last night, so I don't see a
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: reason why she wouldn't be there, Claudia Dustin.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Before I move on to the ending of the episode,
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: I do want to read to you guys.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Angel said a a tweet recently, right after we take
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Monthery Night Live last week, So I.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Want to from Angel Massy.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: She tweeted, I have so many thoughts and feelings about
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: this show.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I'll wait until the end of the season to spill.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: However, then shut up, shut up.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: I don't understand why you're saying anything, because what is
• 41:39
  Speaker 7: the point of that. You just wanted to feel like
• 41:41
  Speaker 7: you were getting some off your chest. All that does
• 41:43
  Speaker 7: is send people running in circles. It's a waste of
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: everybody's damn time. That was stupid to tweet. If you're
• 41:50
  Speaker 7: not gonna say share your thoughts and your feelings on
• 41:53
  Speaker 7: the season, then don't tell us you have thoughts and
• 41:56
  Speaker 7: feelings on the season, because.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: That how a bookmark that So when later Rembride October
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: thirty first, Yeah, I think she's gonna have a lot
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: of regrets when she sees the show and see how
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: she's coming off in the commentary of Damn, I should
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: have stood more in business, I think. And it sucks
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: when it's too late, like when it's already shot, you're like, fuck.
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 6: My only hope is if I get asked back for
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: a second season, because you know, when you watch it
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: and you're like, damn, because just the first time, right,
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: So she's not really knowing how she's coming across, and
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: she's singing it in real time like how we are
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: in her in the scene. She probably not even realizing
• 42:33
  Speaker 6: that she's coming off like this.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be challenging, so loove next season. I
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: think we all can guarantee Karen's.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Coming back to the show. I mean opened up with her.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Who's that be? Eight Houselives.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: You said, Tia, Tia go, you do?
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I love Tia, I do too, But you asked me
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: who I think We'll go?
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but she's really like, she's not a force multiplier,
• 43:01
  Speaker 6: She's just entertaining.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: But you know what, because Dustin said something, just go
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: back a little bit before I go to the end.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: When Dustin talked about Stacey.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Bringing the energy of a different texture to Potomac the
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: way Portia and Kenya did to Atlanta, which I said
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: from day one, and Dustin knows, I feel the exact
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: same way I said. And Kenya single handily rature of
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that Atlanta and.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: Baby, and that's that's that's undebatable.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: So when you said that about safety, the other person
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I thought of was Tya because I thought that this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: but you are right when you talk about Stafecy is
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: so different.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm spoking to the people involved with the show,
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: like where's Stacy, Like she is everything, Like I'm so
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: happy they cast her.
• 43:58
  Speaker 11: So when I look at Stacey, when to look at Tia,
• 44:02
  Speaker 11: Tia gives me what Stacey gives me in the sense
• 44:04
  Speaker 11: of just so unique and different and doesn't try to
• 44:09
  Speaker 11: be anything but herself and and.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: And I don't know, just still don't hit for you?
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: You said what and it still don't hit for you?
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: No, Tia hits for me.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: It's something missing and you know it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 7: There's a there's the element, the difference between Stacey and Tia.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: They're both original flavors, right, their original. She's original. It's
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: star quality.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: But see no, but no, no, I mean, would you
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: rather lose Tia, lose Stacey.
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: Rather Lucy if you had to pick one?
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: And if it was my choice, I would keep both
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and lose someone else.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: And I'll tell you.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Who who's got.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing. Hear me, hear me, hear me out.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: When Kenya Porsche came on Atlanta, I produced that produces
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: a five, right. I remember receiving phone calls about like, baby,
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: this this, this woman named Kenya Moore is twirling.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: All of Atlanta giving that show hell, And I'm like,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: what are you talking about? And then I was invited
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: to Nimi's Shoe Dazzle event and as her friend, right,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: so I went there, not as a producer. And that's
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: when Kenya King dressed up as Phaedra and I said,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: with those butt pads, Yeah, I didn't see this one before,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, what.
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: Can you don't give a damn? I showed you what.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I was widely intrigued. So again this season had Porsche
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: and Kenya, but the talk of the town was this Kenya.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: So I have to say, I remember everyone saying Kenyan
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yan and Kenya and Porte was was not considered like
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: the main attraction her first season.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: So I sell that to say, I feel.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Like, let me not just say that, because God forbid,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: they said, calls to pay a portion.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: I'm not so stop it.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I think Stacy is such a
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: star that I would never compare her and Tia right now,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the way you could not compare Porsche and Kenya their
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: first season.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: But Porsche obviously emerged.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: As like this amazing star that she is, and I
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: think Tia has.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I would love to see what Tia does next season.
• 46:37
  Speaker 12: So although I think, although I think Stacy's star power
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: clearly blinds everyone's, I do think, don't sleep on Tia
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: just yet.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I think Tia. I would give Tia one more season.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: How would you to really see what happens? I'm I'm,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm intrigued.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: But CLAUDEA, do you.
• 46:59
  Speaker 7: Do you for the sake of conversation? Right, since we're in,
• 47:04
  Speaker 7: Since we're here, let's stay here for a second, right
• 47:07
  Speaker 7: Because I think the difference between the two is that
• 47:10
  Speaker 7: we have to acknowledge the difference between the two when
• 47:12
  Speaker 7: it comes to TIA's journey thus far and Porscha's first
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: season journey going into our second season, right, there was
• 47:21
  Speaker 7: a sharp pivot going in from season five to season
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: six in who Porsche was on the show. Season five
• 47:29
  Speaker 7: Porsche and seasons six through thirteen and season sixteen Porsche
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: are two totally different people. Oh yeah, completely different. It
• 47:39
  Speaker 7: says if two different people walked into the casting rooms
• 47:42
  Speaker 7: both seasons. So unless Tia think about a Porsche divorce,
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Cordell got her boobs done, started talking about sex, totally
• 47:50
  Speaker 7: changed up her.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: She was a step for.
• 47:52
  Speaker 7: Wife at first, or at least cosplaying as what do
• 47:55
  Speaker 7: they call it, a trad wife. That's what they call
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: it now, right, she was a trad wife at first,
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: completely did at three sixteen. Now she's throwing ass, talking shit,
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: hitting people in the head. She totally turned into a
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: different person on this cast. I don't know how much
• 48:09
  Speaker 7: room as a mother of your grown almost children, husband,
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, I don't know how much
• 48:16
  Speaker 7: room there is for a pivot, really when it comes
• 48:21
  Speaker 7: to what Tea brought to the show this season. In
• 48:24
  Speaker 7: order for her to have that same sort of impact
• 48:27
  Speaker 7: and be relevant to the show right, there would need
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: to be a shift in what you can offer. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 7: although I've enjoyed the hell out of Tia thus far,
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: I don't know the difference between keeping the Angel versus
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: keeping Tia. Angel is more connected to the cast, and
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: so there's an opportunity there for bonds and connections and
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: shit to be broken, weak and straight so far between
• 48:51
  Speaker 7: Angel and Tiya, Yes, Angel, Okay, Tia has great commentary
• 48:57
  Speaker 7: and it's fresh and oh that's kind of cool and
• 48:59
  Speaker 7: then British accent. And I think her kids are amazing,
• 49:02
  Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. And I enjoyed seeing her
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: scenes as a mom. I will watch a Tia show,
• 49:09
  Speaker 7: but I would rather watch Angel as a housewife than
• 49:11
  Speaker 7: Tia as a housewife.
• 49:12
  Speaker 6: What she's saying, I kind of feel like she's like,
• 49:14
  Speaker 6: the more we talk about it, she like when she
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: pops up, she's definitely a light.
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: She brings fun.
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but how some.
• 49:21
  Speaker 6: People like I just feel like she's could almost be
• 49:25
  Speaker 6: like a supporting member, like a friend, because in her life,
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: her life is into her credit. There's not a lot
• 49:32
  Speaker 6: of dysfunction there, not delusional like Stacy, which makes her interesting.
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: Angel do you know that some darkness going on there.
• 49:39
  Speaker 6: She's not happy with herself, so we don't know more
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: about that. Giselle, you know, she's a shit starter. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: feel like with Tia, she's fun, like she's a fun friend.
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: Oh bring a homegirl, bring a homegirl. She's fun, she's fun.
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: But maybe she's gotta have to mix it up a
• 49:54
  Speaker 6: little bit with somebody, get into with someone, or I
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: don't know, stand for something, because like right now, she's
• 49:59
  Speaker 6: just it's like a fun one liner here and there.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: I get what you're saying, but I love it. I
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: love what she brings the show me too.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: And and that brings me to what we saw at
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: the end of this episode was the battle between Jazz
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and KK that has been brewing since they both were
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: on the show last season, fighting for a champagne flute.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: The housewife prop and KK one.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Jazz is super enjoyable to watch this season.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: This episode, I smiled a lot looking at Jazz. So
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Jazz and KK are there, there's this tension brewing, and
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: they didn't show.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Us everything else going to happen, So they did a cliffhanger.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: But what we're seeing is the fact that Jazz is
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: intimating that KK said something so bad about Wendy that
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: on a scale of one of five, and Wendy of
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: our heard about it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: How mad she would get, she said at a point five.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: And these two are starting to really open up Pandora's
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: box in terms of what they said to each other
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: when they were in friendly spaces. When you look at
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: Jazz and KK and what appears to be the destruction
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: of a friendship they did have, what are your thoughts
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: on that, Claudia, Do you really think they have to
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: do with two girls talking about each other Jazzny said
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: the topline in which KK said anything these things.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: About Wendy, they were in a good place, meaning Wendy
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: and KK.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Or do you think it's two women who are trying
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: their best to be a housewife and that's a little.
• 51:45
  Speaker 5: Bit of both.
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: Ain't nothing worse and get into it with someone that
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: is close to you knows well the body's are buried.
• 51:51
  Speaker 6: Let me tell you something. When they were having the conversation,
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: when they were talking shit about Wendy allegedly, do you
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: think Jazz was just sitting there like, oh, not saying anything. No,
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: they probably was both talking shit.
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: I hate when girls do this shit.
• 52:07
  Speaker 6: Don't just tell my part, don't cut my part out
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: of the text messages and just show. Don't just cut
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: your part out and show mind. Y'all were both if
• 52:15
  Speaker 6: y'all were friends or cool, y'all was keyking, y'all was
• 52:17
  Speaker 6: both talking shit and now when we're out cool, now
• 52:20
  Speaker 6: you want to let it out. You was saying shit too.
• 52:23
  Speaker 6: I don't like when people do that, when they use
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: some stuff that was said when y'all was cool, cool,
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: and y'all was like, you know, having a little kikey
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: about something that's to me should be like, I get it,
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: but I don't like it. I hate when women people
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: do this shit. They tell this stuff happens all the time.
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: Tell tell, tell me why she was so comfortable saying
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: this stuff about Wendy to you, because y'all was both
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: talking about the lady. It was never just one person
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: sitting there just listening and saying, oh, no, that's you
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: shouldn't say that about Wendy.
• 52:53
  Speaker 5: They both was talking shit.
• 52:54
  Speaker 6: So I bet when it comes out and now they're
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: gonna start dropping bombs and then of course they got
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: that the extra layer of one got to be a
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: housewife and one didn't. So now when once one person
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: takes the gloves off, now it's gonna be oh, now
• 53:05
  Speaker 6: it's on, Now it's up. And now you're gonna hear
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: some real bad stuff about from both of them. Now
• 53:09
  Speaker 6: they're about to both let the chopper sing, and they're
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: both gonna be letting out ship that they shouldn't have.
• 53:14
  Speaker 6: That happens. And let me tell you, every friend circle,
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: even us, our friend circles, you and your friends, we
• 53:21
  Speaker 6: all have a shady chext thread where you feel comfable
• 53:24
  Speaker 6: with your people people where you.
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: Talk your shit. That's not that's normal. It happens. Now.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: You said that, though I could be to hear your thoughts,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I didn't have to say. I was lently talking to
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: somebody the other day about the fact that I think if.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Everybody said back and said, look, everybody has been guilty
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: of either on the receiving end or being the sort
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: of instigator and talking shit.
• 53:48
  Speaker 5: And and the thing is this, Even people you like
• 53:51
  Speaker 5: you made that day to.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Say, I'm in my forties, so I've had enough life
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: experience to know that talking behind someone's sounds so crazy,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: but hear me, I'll does it.
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: Let's be honest conversation, because let's have real one.
• 54:09
  Speaker 8: Everybody breathing has had conversations about another person when that
• 54:14
  Speaker 8: person was not in the room. And on the surface,
• 54:18
  Speaker 8: it can be you talked the bottom behind your.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Back and behind my back. No, I set a conversation
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: about you and you weren't there.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: However, like Claudia said, if you want to know what
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: I said, I can tell you to your face.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: I have nothing to hide.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: But we're all guilty of having conversations with about another.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Person when that person's down the room.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: And Claudia is briden the sense of look, you all
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: have had a moment as friends to where me doesn't.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: At Claudia had a conversation and Claudia said something about.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: A person that I know, and I said there and
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: listened to it.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I should not be considered fake because I listened to
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: my other friend say something about somebody that I know
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: who I consider the friend. To me, that's what to y'all,
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I don't give a ship get involved.
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: So if you tell on me, yes, I'm not gonna.
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: Been tell you know. Colonia was saying it about you.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: I actually agree with you, and that's why I don't
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: like the fact that they were going there, because I
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: thought it was a desperate move.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Or a battle. But Dustin, who what think I love
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: about Dustin?
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Dustin will let you know immediately his bias when it
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: comes to this person is my friend and that's my favorite.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it what I'm willa say. So, Dustin,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: what are your thoughts about this? Yeah?
• 55:34
  Speaker 7: You know, I'm old school when it comes to that
• 55:36
  Speaker 7: kind of ship. I don't believe in talking about your
• 55:38
  Speaker 7: friends behind their back. There there are and again, yes,
• 55:42
  Speaker 7: we all have conversations. We are discussed things with there
• 55:45
  Speaker 7: are degrees. There's varying degrees of appropriateness when it comes
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: to conversations that you should have. Again, y'all know, this
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: is probably the only place in my life where I'm
• 55:55
  Speaker 7: conservative and traditional right come to that friendship shit, discussing
• 56:02
  Speaker 7: your friends having your friends back, y'all know me.
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: I'm very old school like that.
• 56:07
  Speaker 7: So I don't do the talk about your friends with
• 56:10
  Speaker 7: another one with this one, with that one.
• 56:11
  Speaker 3: I don't do that.
• 56:12
  Speaker 7: Now, if we having a conversation and certain things come up,
• 56:15
  Speaker 7: we discussing something that's one thing. But I'm not gonna
• 56:18
  Speaker 7: go behind my friends back, Nor am I gonna sit
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: behind my friends back and let somebody.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Dog them out and talk about them like a dog.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: We adults.
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: If y'all have y'all challenges in your relationships, that's expected,
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: and you may have a net. Somebody might not like you, Claudia,
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: or somebody might not like you, Carlos. Somebody might not
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: like me and have their own issues with us. They
• 56:40
  Speaker 7: can talk about that, But them calling me some things
• 56:44
  Speaker 7: or calling y' all things, you're not finna just disrespect
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: my friend like that around me just because y'all got
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: a problem, you know.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: So there's a balance, there's a line there that exists.
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: Of course, we have opinions, we share them, we laugh,
• 56:57
  Speaker 7: make jokes. That's different to me than talking about somebody
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: behind their back. That's two totally different things to me.
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: So I think we need to give ourselves a little
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: bit more grace because I'm agreeing with you both.
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: That's not wrong.
• 57:12
  Speaker 7: If you have a conversation and something comes up or
• 57:15
  Speaker 7: someone has an opinion on something, that don't mean that
• 57:17
  Speaker 7: you're wrong for witnessing that conversation.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: But if you participating in it.
• 57:22
  Speaker 7: If you're speaking disparagingly of me, if you're allowing them
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: to disrespect my family, and you know, just cross a
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: line to me, there's just a line there that exists.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: So, like you said, degrees, like you know, we have
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: friend circles, Like we had a friend circle there was
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: four girls and here in Dallas, which we've actually disabandoned since,
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: but we used to have.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: Fun and we would pop up a little bit.
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: But there was certain characteristics of certain people in the
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: group that we we say it like and sometimes maybe
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: two people talk from here, not trashing, but it was like, well,
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: you know what, she's gonna do nothing else, you's gonna
• 57:52
  Speaker 6: be late.
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: Well yeah, I'm gonna You're gonna we it on white shoes.
• 57:55
  Speaker 6: You know, it ain't like evil like right character of things,
• 58:00
  Speaker 6: but like little luck, everyone had said something about when
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: it's like it could be to that degree. But then
• 58:05
  Speaker 6: don't go back and say Claudie was talking so bad
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: about you, how you always late and you never that
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: you was right there with me and when you was
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: a green and it was playful and you.
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: Didn't tell me before. That's why I thing right there, motherucker.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: If you if somebody was talking shit about me and
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: you held on to the knowledge of that until you
• 58:23
  Speaker 7: got mad at them.
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: Then fuck both of y'all. That's how I look at it.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like you was in there.
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: You you are just as far out to me as
• 58:32
  Speaker 7: that person because you allowed it and it was cool
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: until you got mad at them.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: Now you want to tell me all this ship. Fuck
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: both of y'all.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: They say, that's mess when you find out who they
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: are on mad Day when they managed and I don't like.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: It, And I think that's why I guess.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: My first thought was, all right, this is this is
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: gonna get unnecessarily messy because I just don't like it
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: when you feel like you said Claudia, and I said,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: when you're having conversations, and all of a sudden a
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: private conversation we had, and no, I'm gets exposed when it.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: To put twenty on ten because we don't.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: Know what KK did say, and I feel like we've
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: been dangled as Karen, uh what did We still don't
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: know what KK said about Wendy too Jazzy, and we've
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: been teased about this for two episodes and.
• 59:27
  Speaker 5: Look, it might be nothing, it might be something like,
• 59:29
  Speaker 5: it's not.
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: Thank of the shop.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: I hope it's not be major because we're being teased
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: about us for two weeks.
• 59:36
  Speaker 6: If someone would have did me like that, if I
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: was a k and I heard that, what.
• 59:40
  Speaker 5: Did I say?
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: Bitch saying?
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: Say what I said right now? Don't be Danglo's care
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: for we know what did I say?
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: We did at the end of the episode.
• 59:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, with that silver de Or bag sitting on the table,
• 59:52
  Speaker 7: you know, Keanu be having our ship if you if
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: you peep like she we and our friends were watching
• 59:58
  Speaker 7: the show and we were laughing. And because Giselle had
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 7: on them poochie pants and Keana had on the poochi too.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: I think it was a dressed and she had the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: advisor cap with the seat through visor bream one and
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 7: all Poochie had to talk. That's for the fashion people.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: But yeah, Keana be having her ship on. But at
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 7: the end of that episode she caught it so great.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 7: But at the end of that episode she called Jazzy out.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: She was like, yo, I can.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Only be accountable for whatever it is.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 7: I know, I said, so unless you want to tell
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 7: me what I said, And Jazi said she kept it
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 7: to herself because the timing of whatever, She's a legend
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: Kiana to have said what she said, that the timing.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: Of her saying it would be hurt really hurtful to.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 7: Wendy whatever that meant. All these riddles and ship what's
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: going on meant that.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 5: One got a page the other one. So now I
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: know everything.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: It's funny.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: Everybody does it. It's hilarious. We'll talk about like freaking
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: Billy Hills, Well she got the.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: Peach basketball wise, you know, got her peach.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's actually that's why I think it's hilarioy. So look,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: we will see what happens with this. But I actually.
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: I am glad that we were able to address a
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: lot of things going on with Angel because I do
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: feel like, you know, that's the one thing to me
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: that I do feel isn't as definitive in terms of
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: like what their storyline is as the other. So I'm
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: hoping that we get to see something different from her
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: after this trip ends, so that you know, we get
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: to get settled in her world and to see what.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: That looks like.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: So I just want to make one more no regarding
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 7: Angel in her defense actually, but in Angel's defense their
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 7: body shame and shit is time out for that?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: Because I don't know where the motherfuckers are from.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: But Angel is a woman who people deemed desirable right
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 7: her curves, her body.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: That's not a negative thing. So I don't know.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 7: What metric or rubric people are holding her to or whatever,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: but that's a desirable woman where I come from and
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 7: in a lot of other parts of the country and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 7: the world.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 3: And people should consider that.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: You sound lame to me if you body shaming her
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 7: for putting on weight after having a kid, that's lame.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: She's a happy woman. She's a sexy, curvy woman.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: Like it's one thing they put lazy down in bags
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: of pistachios, and yeah, I do all the time. But
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: she actually gave birth to someone, like you know what
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: I mean, Like that's it's gonna take a minute. And yeah,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: I just don't think she's happy about what she had
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: that cheapy song, which it wasn't really that flattering. I
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: know she in the room, she felt uncomfortable lasses on. Hell,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: that's a that's she's shown you what like her body languages,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: she's not really.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: Comfortable right now. I am. I'm assuming I hope you
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: don't get mad at me.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: Insight, it's reasonable for you to say, yeah.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: Actually, I'm glad you brought that up.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: So Rang Jos, let us know what you think in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: the comments and.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: We'll see you guys next week. I Fun Bye.
• 1:03:28
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• 1:03:33
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• 1:03:37
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